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Speaker 4: In the Daily Show, I'm Sarah Silverman and I am
Speaker 4: back for yet another night of hosting. It's almost like
Speaker 4: life is this repetitious cycle from which only death can
Speaker 4: truly release us.
Speaker 5: But anyway, who's ready for some fun? Let's get ready?
Speaker 4: All right, let's get right to it. The big news.
Speaker 4: There was an election yesterday. Maybe you forgot about it,
Speaker 4: and apparently so did some Republicans because Democrats.
Speaker 5: Got almost everything they wanted.
Speaker 6: Overnowed Democrats on a winning street, scoring victories in Ohio, Kentucky,
Speaker 6: and Virginia. In deep red Kentucky, Trump backed candidate Republican
Speaker 6: Daniel Cameron tried to take down Democratic Governor Andy Basheer
Speaker 6: by linking him to Biden, but it didn't work.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kentucky.
Speaker 7: And in Virginia, a title way for Democrats, who held
Speaker 7: on to their state Senate majority and took control of
Speaker 7: the House of Delegates too, a dramatic rebuke of Republican
Speaker 7: Governor Glenn Youngkin. And in Philadelphia, history was made Democrat
Speaker 7: Cherrell Parker becoming the first female mayor in the City
Speaker 7: of Brotherly Love.
Speaker 8: And now to the remarkable story of a man who
Speaker 8: was imprisoned for years for a crime he did not commit,
Speaker 8: use of salam, known as one of the Exonerated Five,
Speaker 8: has been elected to.
Speaker 5: New York City Council after running on a The beautiful
Speaker 5: thing about my story is that I was counted out.
Speaker 1: I was one of those who was pushed into the
Speaker 1: margins of life. And now we're here right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the guys who is falsely accused of
Speaker 4: attacking a Central Park jogger and who Donald Trump said
Speaker 4: should get the death penalty is now a city councilman.
Speaker 4: He went from having his life threatened by Trump to
Speaker 4: being an elected representative.
Speaker 5: He's like a reverse Mike Pence.
Speaker 4: And to this man who has overcome so much and
Speaker 4: still has the selflessness and the strength of character to
Speaker 4: turn around and serve this city that falsely imprisoned him,
Speaker 4: I just want to say, when are you going to
Speaker 4: do something about the jackhammering my TAXI pay your salary,
Speaker 4: body picked the subways?
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Democrats were the big winners last night, which means all
Speaker 4: those human sacrifices were worth it. Shout out to my
Speaker 4: fellow Illuminati members, Guys, we did it. Democrats are feeling
Speaker 4: real good after the results rolled in. I got an
Speaker 4: email from Nancy Pelosi that wasn't even asking for money.
Speaker 4: It just said, Sarah, I am so wet right now. Now,
Speaker 4: elections aren't only about changing which butts are taking up
Speaker 4: which seats in various fancy rooms. People also get to
Speaker 4: vote directly on issues that are important to them.
Speaker 7: Clearly, the biggest takeaway from last night abortion rights again
Speaker 7: boosting Democrats in key races in both red and blue states, abortion.
Speaker 9: Access and the law of the land.
Speaker 10: In Ohio, in one of the country's most watched swing
Speaker 10: state races, Ohio's voting to guarantee abortion access enshrotting that
Speaker 10: right into the state's constitution, Ohio becoming the seventh state
Speaker 10: to vote to protect abortion rights since the Supreme Court's
Speaker 10: ruling last year overturning bro v.
Speaker 7: Wade.
Speaker 11: You put very sexy things like abortion and marijuana on
Speaker 11: the ballot, and a lot of young people come out and.
Speaker 4: Vote sexy issues like abortion.
Speaker 5: What are his porn search words? The fact is abortion.
Speaker 4: Limits have become such a losing issue that some conservatives
Speaker 4: have reportedly decided the problem isn't pro life policies, but
Speaker 4: the phrase pro life. They're looking to rebrand it, but personally,
Speaker 4: I think they should be forced to carry this phrase
Speaker 4: to term. And for more on this conundrum and the
Speaker 4: pro life movement, let's go live to the Ohio State
Speaker 4: House with Grace Koolinschmidt.
Speaker 5: Hello, Grace.
Speaker 4: The pro life movement has a real problem here, even
Speaker 4: in red states. Voters don't like being told what to
Speaker 4: do with their bodies.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's as much of a body
Speaker 3: control saying as it is a branding problem.
Speaker 5: I mean, pro life yuck. Have you seen life? It's
Speaker 5: gross so much mucus.
Speaker 3: That's why it needs a fun new term that doesn't
Speaker 3: have all the baggage. Like instead of pro life, they
Speaker 3: could go with pro parents or pro girl power or prosendea.
Speaker 5: What else is popular?
Speaker 3: I know pro choice people seem to love that.
Speaker 4: Term, Grace, I think that's one's already taken.
Speaker 5: Well, that would like cause a lot of confusion, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: it would what a goof.
Speaker 3: That's why they're also considering slogans that are totally unrelated
Speaker 3: to abortion but will naturally appeal to women, Like how
Speaker 3: about pro shopping? You know how those ladies are, Sarah?
Speaker 3: That is such a cheap appeal. Women are not stupid, No,
Speaker 3: they're not. They're probably not.
Speaker 5: That's why the pro.
Speaker 3: Life movement should consider brand sponsorships, like how sports teams
Speaker 3: do with stadiums. Maybe people will like the fetal heartbeat
Speaker 3: law if it's now the Smoothie King fetal heartbeat law?
Speaker 4: Do you love smoothies? Stale voters don't like to be tricked.
Speaker 4: They deserve honesty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great honesty.
Speaker 12: We're spitfalling out.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: What if pro lifers were just totally honest. Their slogans
Speaker 3: can be just straight up your body, our choice or
Speaker 3: Handmaid's tale.
Speaker 4: Let's try it, Grace, None of that is going to work.
Speaker 4: People in this country don't want to ban abortion period.
Speaker 3: No, it's about the branding. They just haven't figured out
Speaker 3: the right one yet. But I'm not worried. Republicans are
Speaker 3: the party of middle aged white guys who wear socks
Speaker 3: during sex. They know how to appeal to women.
Speaker 4: Right, Grace, coolin shmid everybody?
Speaker 13: Why I am seeing AI?
Speaker 4: So don't go away show. Let's talk about technology.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 4: It mostly makes life easier for humans, and in exchange,
Speaker 4: we humans try our best to not drop it into
Speaker 4: the toilet. But right now, the technology we're talking about
Speaker 4: is artificial intelligence. Since it came into our lives, we've
Speaker 4: all been trying to grapple with its larger impact. We're
Speaker 4: seeing kids use it to cheat in school. We're seeing
Speaker 4: may partners use it for breakups. Chat gpt is even
Speaker 4: able to pass the legal bar exam, meaning it'll be
Speaker 4: the first AI to develop an addiction to cocaine.
Speaker 5: But it might be a good.
Speaker 4: Thing that chat gpt could be a lawyer because a
Speaker 4: lot of people are taking its ass to court.
Speaker 13: This morning a game of Thrones erupting over the rights
Speaker 13: to some of the most popular works in the world.
Speaker 5: George R. R.
Speaker 13: Martin and more than a dozen other authors now suing
Speaker 13: open Ai, creator of chat gpt, Martin joining forces with
Speaker 13: authors like Jody Pcoe, John Grisham, Ellen Hildebrand, Michael Connolly, and.
Speaker 5: David Baldacci to take on the AI giant.
Speaker 9: And comedian Sarah Silverman is suing open ai and Meta.
Speaker 9: She claims the company's developed artificial intelligence tools that freely
Speaker 9: copied her memoir Bedwetter without permission.
Speaker 4: That's right, mother, stand writing luminaries like myself and George R. R.
Speaker 5: Martin R R.
Speaker 4: Suing AI, and I'll tell you why in another installment
Speaker 4: of long story short. For as long as we have
Speaker 4: had civilization, we've also had art. For over forty thousand years,
Speaker 4: artists have had a sacred creative process. They sit down
Speaker 4: to ruminate on the human condition. They pace and they
Speaker 4: struggle to focus. They get up to get a snack,
Speaker 4: maybe take a nap. Then they work a bit more,
Speaker 4: so they reward themselves by scrolling Instagram on the toilet
Speaker 4: for so long they shit again.
Speaker 5: Then they finally get something.
Speaker 4: On the page, and when they ask their partner for feedback,
Speaker 4: they get mad when it isn't what they wanted to
Speaker 4: hear because their partner doesn't get me. Why do I
Speaker 4: even ask you? You're supposed to support me. Then eventually
Speaker 4: they buckle down, really do the work, and finally voila
Speaker 4: tub thumping. But now generative AI can eliminate that entire
Speaker 4: creative process in a matter of seconds.
Speaker 12: Dolly two is artificial intelligence software that can turn anything
Speaker 12: new type into art in any style. Portraits of a
Speaker 12: panda in the style of Renoir and.
Speaker 11: Boom.
Speaker 1: While Game of Thrones author George R. Martin has had
Speaker 1: fans waiting years for his next novels. One programmer used
Speaker 1: chat GPT to generate the longer waited installments in mere minutes.
Speaker 4: A programmer generated his own shitty ending to Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4: Why waste your time, HBO already did.
Speaker 5: That for you. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Well, AI has helped open many avenues for new works.
Speaker 5: There's just one problem. They're not new works.
Speaker 4: What these programs do is scrape text and images from
Speaker 4: existing works and feed it into their system in order
Speaker 4: to create copycats. So when someone wanted to know what
Speaker 4: a modern Mona Lisa would look like, they just typed
Speaker 4: it into an AI program and seconds later it pumped
Speaker 4: out this.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: We used this ultra powerful technological tool to put titties
Speaker 4: on the Mona Lisa congrat Society.
Speaker 5: We did it.
Speaker 4: And for the record, if we're gonna add sweater puppies
Speaker 4: to a Da Vinci painting, it should have been the
Speaker 4: last supper.
Speaker 5: I mean, look at them. Who's gonna crucify these melons? Anyway?
Speaker 4: These programs are not just pumping out busty, derivative works
Speaker 4: of art, they're also printing money. Chat GPT is on
Speaker 4: track to make a billion dollars just this year alone,
Speaker 4: which is great for them. But the problem is that
Speaker 4: these companies are using artists work without consent or credit
Speaker 4: or payment. And I've had first hand experience with this
Speaker 4: theft because one of the one hundred thousand books used
Speaker 4: to train chat GPT was my book The Bedwetter, available
Speaker 4: wherever books. And by the way, that book is about
Speaker 4: my actual life, my jokes, my experiences, my pain, and
Speaker 4: chat GPT stole all of it and didn't even have
Speaker 4: the courtesy to give me Mona Lisa Hits. I haven't
Speaker 4: seen that hard work, and surprisingly many of the owners
Speaker 4: of these AI companies don't seem to be in a
Speaker 4: giant rush to unpack the moral implications.
Speaker 11: I bought this for seventy nine dollars thinking it was
Speaker 11: the work of a talented artist, but a robot made
Speaker 11: it AI software called mid Journey, created by David Hols.
Speaker 11: How do you respond to the idea that this is
Speaker 11: somehow a counterfeit form of artistic expressions?
Speaker 14: Well, we're not really selling art where just we have
Speaker 14: this community that's playing with this technology, like the arch
Speaker 14: Comuede already has issues at plagiaris. I don't really want
Speaker 14: to be involved in that.
Speaker 11: I think, I think you might be.
Speaker 5: I might maybe you know what you made?
Speaker 4: Oh no, you guys aren't going to use the atomic
Speaker 4: bomb I made to hurt people?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 4: When did humanity's villains start looking like such beta cooks.
Speaker 5: I mean, say what you want about.
Speaker 4: Genghis Khan, but at least he looks like his stomach
Speaker 4: could handle milk.
Speaker 5: And this is precisely.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, This is precisely why you are seeing
Speaker 4: artists filing lawsuits to protect not only their creative work
Speaker 4: but the work of future artists. And just to be clear,
Speaker 4: I'm not looking to shut down AI or turn the
Speaker 4: clock back. I just want guardrails so that AI fairly
Speaker 4: compensates the people whose work comprises its entire brain. This
Speaker 4: is not anything new. Technological advancements will always require regulation.
Speaker 4: For example, when technology brought us turntables and music sampling,
Speaker 4: it helped launch the genre of rap music and brought
Speaker 4: us liric wizards like Biggie and Tupac and Chet Hanks.
Speaker 4: But back when it started, it wasn't clear whether sampling
Speaker 4: was an innovative art form or stealing. But eventually legal
Speaker 4: guardrails were put in place that helped set how technology
Speaker 4: could be used to create art and compensate those whose
Speaker 4: previous works were being used. It's not perfect, but both
Speaker 4: sides can get what they want. It's why every time
Speaker 4: you listen to the jay Z song Hard Knike Life,
Speaker 4: those kids from Annie get money so they don't have
Speaker 4: to live in an orphanage anymore, and everybody winnings. So
Speaker 4: long story short, I'm not saying we should destroy these
Speaker 4: AI models. I'm just saying we also need rules to
Speaker 4: protect artists and their work, and I'm confident we can
Speaker 4: find a way through this because artists are resilient. We
Speaker 4: get knocked down, but we get up again. You're never
Speaker 4: going to keep us down. When we come back, the
Speaker 4: incredible Margo Price.
Speaker 5: Will be joining now with Welcome back to the n Show.
Speaker 4: My guest tonight is a Grammy nominated singer, songwriter and author.
Speaker 4: She's here to talk about her latest album, Strays, and
Speaker 4: her memoir Maybe We'll Make It.
Speaker 5: Please welcome Margot Price.
Speaker 4: Hello, So, oh my god, I thought my phone alarm
Speaker 4: was on, but it was the music from here. Sorry,
Speaker 4: my edibles are kicking. It happened to me on So
Speaker 4: your album is about substance abuse, it's about self image,
Speaker 4: it's about abortion rights, and you wrote it on mushrooms?
Speaker 5: Was that a revelation and songwriting? Tell me spill it was?
Speaker 15: I really wanted to shake things up, you know. I
Speaker 15: kind of got my start with this old school country album.
Speaker 15: It was called Midwest Farmer's Daughter and Jack White put
Speaker 15: it out and things kindly kind of finally turned around
Speaker 15: for me. But yeah, with this album, I just wanted
Speaker 15: to be able to go out there and not be pigeonholed.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the psilocybin opened your brain did what I'm
Speaker 4: like so into this.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been pretty transformative for me. The first time
Speaker 15: I had a psychedelic trip, I was twenty years old,
Speaker 15: and I dropped out of college and.
Speaker 5: Moved to Nashville.
Speaker 15: Highly suggested for anybody who doesn't want to get into
Speaker 15: a student loan debt. Then yeah, Then the next time
Speaker 15: I took it, I wrote this album. And then the
Speaker 15: third time that I took it, I decided to quit
Speaker 15: drinking alcohol, which had really been a challenge for me.
Speaker 15: And it's kind of after I started reading about Bill
Speaker 15: Wilson and the work he did with AA and he
Speaker 15: initially had a psychedelic experience on a plant called belladonna,
Speaker 15: and they were actually at the very beginning moments of AA.
Speaker 15: They were giving people asset and it was curing their alcoholism.
Speaker 15: So I don't know if you're feeling stuck with anything.
Speaker 4: I will say, in my early twenties, ecstasy changed my life.
Speaker 15: Yeah, MDNA is absolutely incredible for compassion as well.
Speaker 4: And you know you're honest and you walk the wop.
Speaker 4: You've been really vocal about gun control, which is I
Speaker 4: think the number one killer of children in this country.
Speaker 4: And boy, you even took a detour on the road
Speaker 4: to vote in Nashville for the mayor.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 15: I was out on tour and it was just a
Speaker 15: really important election for Nashville, and so I took off
Speaker 15: at ten o'clock at night, got to Nashville at three
Speaker 15: in the morning, woke up at nine, voted, and then
Speaker 15: drove back and played a show.
Speaker 5: And what is it like.
Speaker 4: Being a liberal in a kind of a country world.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I definitely don't get invited to all
Speaker 15: the parties, but that's okay. Their parties suck, And yeah,
Speaker 15: I think it's been I like pushing boundaries. I like
Speaker 15: pushing my limits. I think that if we can have conversations.
Speaker 15: We live in such polarizing times, and really, if we
Speaker 15: could all realize that we're more like than we think
Speaker 15: and began to talk about these things. I want to
Speaker 15: destigmatize psychedelics. Uh, just thoughts on gun control. I think
Speaker 15: that the only way to do that is by talking
Speaker 15: about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, we not different.
Speaker 4: I mean I've almost never disliked someone I've actually met
Speaker 4: face to face.
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. Yeah, you have a song called
Speaker 5: light Me Up.
Speaker 4: Why don't you explain to the audience what it's about, Margo?
Speaker 15: Okay, Well, this song was one that we wrote the
Speaker 15: day after we took a God's Toe of mushrooms. And
Speaker 15: you know, I was just listening to a lot of
Speaker 15: songs in the country music world and even in the
Speaker 15: Americana world, and I just wasn't hearing a lot of
Speaker 15: songs about the female orgasm, and I thought we needed
Speaker 15: to change that. So it's, uh, yeah, it's just a
Speaker 15: liberating song about sex and women's pleasure.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you lived in.
Speaker 15: Such a time, and I mean I live in a
Speaker 15: place where, you know, abortion rights and women's bodies are
Speaker 15: just they're not our own and I'm here to show
Speaker 15: up and.
Speaker 5: Fight for I love it.
Speaker 4: He wrote this book, maybe we'll make it. And what
Speaker 4: was your approach to writing a book. Is there are
Speaker 4: there any similarities to how you approached songwriting.
Speaker 5: Was it a completely different daunting task?
Speaker 15: It was daunting, and I know, you know as well
Speaker 15: laying it all out there. I started writing it when
Speaker 15: I found myself pregnant with my daughter, Ramona, and I
Speaker 15: was just at home and I couldn't tour. And through
Speaker 15: the process it was also kind of when I decided
Speaker 15: to give up drinking. Because I was reading everything from
Speaker 15: this different place, I was able to give myself a
Speaker 15: little bit more compassion as I was reading things back.
Speaker 15: But it was scared to put it all out there.
Speaker 15: You know, it's everybody I've slept with, all the drug
Speaker 15: I've ever done, so sorry Grandma.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting because you know, having written a book,
Speaker 4: you know, a memoir, it's you kind of have to
Speaker 4: really be a detective in your own life, and you
Speaker 4: realize that would that's really good just for everybody to do,
Speaker 4: you know, because you learned so much from it and
Speaker 4: you're I think your editor read it and said, gee
Speaker 4: it it feels like Whiskey is the main character of
Speaker 4: this book.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, definitely. She said that that was like my
Speaker 15: my co star, and it's true. I mean I used
Speaker 15: to drink harder than anybody, and that was just kind
Speaker 15: of the way that I lived and it was like
Speaker 15: a badge of honor and it was kind of going
Speaker 15: through that whole time. It's been almost three years now
Speaker 15: and it's just been completely transformative to give it up and.
Speaker 5: Just have all this extra everybody again. I mean I
Speaker 5: still have drugs. Yeah, I still do drug rubs. Yeah yeah, drug.
Speaker 5: I still smoke weed.
Speaker 4: I love do a weird person, you know, like more
Speaker 4: mind expanding, but I cannot be around drunk people.
Speaker 15: Yeah, they're annoying.
Speaker 5: It turns out they're minded insufferable.
Speaker 4: Hold on, I got oh wow, you're performing your song
Speaker 4: Lydia tonight, which I'm so excited about and it's about
Speaker 4: abortion and you wrote it before Roe was overturned. So
Speaker 4: what inspired that?
Speaker 15: I was walking around in this town in Canada that
Speaker 15: was there was just like a lot of methadone clinics,
Speaker 15: a lot of people that were really struggling, and so
Speaker 15: I initially wrote it then, and I was kind of
Speaker 15: scared of the song. I played it for a couple
Speaker 15: of my friends and one of them said, man, that
Speaker 15: that song just really sucks the air out of the
Speaker 15: room and it doesn't rhyme, and it's like six minutes.
Speaker 15: So I knew that this was the perfect place to
Speaker 15: come do a song about a hooker contemplating an abortion.
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