1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: So Joshua was brought in for a reason, and it's 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: for more than just hey go rush the pastor god 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Zach kersmen joining me berg Gang. We talk about the impacts, 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: what is expected to make him reuniting with Jonathan Gannon 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and Nikralis, plus how he's embracing his role. Also the 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: latest on bj Ojulari and what Greg George said that 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: made even me raise and eyebrow at Cardinals Cover two, 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Episode eight ninety two. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: And it starts now. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 4: Budda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: dot com slash podcast. 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: He said a ten half of five. He's it again, 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: so more hurry magic. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: Whow Here's Craigcreoler. 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: So a little bit different and different I mean warmer 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: darn near triple digits for day two of Mini camp. 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: And yes, mandatory for everyone, everyone presence and accounted for. 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: And my gripe here because that's you know. 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna gripe. 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: No one cares but Cross Tree. 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of trees, the fact that we have a 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: tree to hide under I'll say a hide to provide 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: some shade while we're out during the open portion of 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: mini camp. But still, it's the problem I had with Wednesday, Zach, 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: was the fact that there was hardly any breeze whatsoever, 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: so hardly any air flow which made it even or 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: feel like it was even hotter than it was. 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: The weather here is something different. 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 5: And I know I was just in the East Coast, 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 5: and we'll talk about my my East Coast trip a 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 5: little bit later on in the show. I'm sure with 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: with the Arizona Cardinals, it wasn't just a vacation, but 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 5: neither here there to feel the humidity out there, and 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 5: then to get off the plane on Saturday and realize 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 5: how hot it was and not just hop a burning 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 5: you could feel it. You're just like, man, I can't 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: wait for the breeze. And then you go to practice 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: and there is zero breeze during this week. 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: It is a it's a rough one. 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: But then again we have the defensive lineman that look 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: over at us and they're just like, okay, you guys, 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 5: underneath the shadea you have a good and here we 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 5: are feeling like we're struggling. 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: The good news is there is just one more day 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: left and then the next time we are on the 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: field it will be indoors at State Farm Stadium for 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: training camp. And then of course it's in the morning. 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: So it's not quite the triple digits one hundred and 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: five hundred and ten, which is expected to be this weekend. Again, 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: it's small problems here on Cardinals cover too, But I 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: just ten, yeah, oh God, thank you God. 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: This is not your first summer now summer is number three. 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: But still wow. 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, and I told this to everyone 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: that comes here, because there is a difference as far 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: as heat when you come from the south of Florida 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: and come to Zona, because there's it's a dry heat 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and it is truly dry now. There is a distinct 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: difference though, between one hundred and five hundred and eight 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: to one. 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Hundred and ten hundred and twelve. 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Even though it's three or five degrees warmer, it is 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: exponentially feels a lot worse to where you have to 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: stay indoors. 68 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: At the end of the day. 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: Hot is still hot, and it is hot outside point 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 5: Plank period. 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a little warm, a little toasty 72 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Some notes from Wednesday's open portion of mandatory 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: mini camp. Not much has changed. Still have not seen 74 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Bjojolori on the field or on the side, probably working indoors. 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: In fact, Jonathan Gannon asked about BJ, said he's doing well. 76 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: There's no concerns as far as him missing anything as 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: far as a learning curve, because he's been a part 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: of the playbook, part of the defense already. It's just 79 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: the anxiousness that not only and said BJ fields, but 80 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I think fans and us alike want to see number 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: nine back on the field because our most recent impression 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: of Ojulari was training camp where he was beating everyone 83 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage to the point where there 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: were a lot of people believing that, Okay, we found 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: our double digit sec guy. Now, is it still there 86 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: within him going into year three, not sure, but we're 87 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: waiting to see him on the football field. 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: Well. 89 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon said that that BJ has been chomping at 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 5: the bit to try to get out there onto the 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 5: practice field, and we know he does want to be 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 5: out there because that's the caliber of competitor that we've 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: seen from Bijo Jari. But look, at the end of 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 5: the day, they're going to slow play his return because 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 5: there's no need to rush him back right now. They'll 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: have training camp at the end of July, and they'll 97 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 5: have a handful of preseason games. That's why we'll have 98 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: a better idea as to where bj is during his progression, 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: during his rehabilitation, and hopefully as the weeks and days 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: go on, as we get closer to training camp, that 101 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 5: means closer to b jo Jo Aari's return. 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: And you look at that outside linebacker room with eight 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: players on the roster, and you figure out right and again, 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: things can change between now and when you have to 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: make these decisions. But you're not keeping all eight. You 106 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: kept five going into week one a year ago. Do 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you still keep five? Can you afford to keep five 108 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: or keep a sixth or go light because you want 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: to keep an extra defensive lineman or an extra cornerback. 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: And then what this defense looks like when you have 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: really overhauled the outside linebacker room as far as the 112 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: top side, because you bring in a Josh What you 113 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: resign a Baron Brown and you've got Zavin Collins who's 114 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. His value is immeasurable when you hear 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: the coaches talk about what he does, not only getting 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, but set in the edge and dropping 117 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: into coverage. It's an interesting room to talk about because 118 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: you can't keep everyone and then all right, who's the 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: odd man out? Or are there are several odd men out? 120 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: We went from talking about this room a few months 121 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 5: ago discussing who do they have out there? To now 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 5: who are you able to even keep out there? Because 123 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 5: of all the different players you bring in Josh Swett, 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 5: you reassigned Baron Browning, you draft Jordan Birch in the 125 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 5: third round, and now you have all these other conversations 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: you need to have. Where is Bijoe Julari in terms 127 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: of his rehab? What about Xavier Thomas? What is your 128 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 5: What are you going to get from the second year 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 5: outside linebacker out of Clemson? Obviously, I feel like there's 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 5: a few locks that you know are going to be 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: the case. You know that you're for bj Zavin Collins, 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: Baron brown and Joshwatt. You know that those guys are 133 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 5: going to be a lock. What about Jordan Burch You're 134 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 5: assuming he's going to be a lot, because you're not 135 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: investing a third round pick unless he is going to 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: be somebody that's able to join the rotation. Outside of that, 137 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: it's gonna be an interesting conversation. I know that Nick 138 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 5: Rowlis joked and said that it's not really up to him. 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: It's up to Manny Austin for and Johnathan Gannon about 140 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: who they're gonna end up, you know, cutting keeping, who 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: they're going to place on the practice squad. We got 142 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: some time in training camp will make a difference because 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 5: at this point last year, we didn't know what we 144 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: were really going to get out of bjo Jli from 145 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: that year. Once a year or two, jump fast forward 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: a month from this time, b jo Jalai is in 147 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 5: the driver's seat to be a starter. 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: He was hurts early in camp. I believe it was 149 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: the first week in August, so he's not quite one 150 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: year removed from ACL injury slash surgery. So how much 151 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: do we even see bj at the start of training camp. 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: You talk about slow playing, and that's kind of been 153 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: what this coaching staff, training staff, front office. They really 154 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: slow play injuries. As far as all right, you're feeling good, 155 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: all right, let's give you another week, just to make 156 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: sure so nothing there's no setbacks and we're not again. 157 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: It would be different if we were looking at this room, 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Zach as far as outside linebackers going okay, well, this 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: team needs bjo Jeli And while it would be nice 160 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: to have him right now, one you don't need it, 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: but two you look at this room as Okay, if 162 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: you don't have a bjo Jelari, You're still feel pretty 163 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: good based off what you did in free agency and 164 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: in the draft and those guys that are returning to 165 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: come and fill out that room. 166 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: And that is why you invest in the room as 167 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 5: much as you have with the additions of Josh Sweat, 168 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 5: with drafting Jordan Birch, who people are saying his ceiling 169 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: is a lot higher than just being a third round pick. 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: They're expecting a big burst from Jordan Birch because he 171 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: was one of those players that slowly start to find 172 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: himself at Oregon and dealt with some injuries and now 173 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 5: he has the bursty power to be a strong caliber, 174 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 5: even a starting caliber depending on the scheme and depending 175 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 5: on the ways that they use him, type of player 176 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: down the line in his NFL career. Look when it 177 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: comes to be Joe Jolari and all the other players 178 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 5: that have injuries. 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: Johnathan again and. 180 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: Said that they're going to be smart with the players 181 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 5: that they have, and even the players that he mentioned 182 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: like Dalvin Tomlinson, Will Johnson, the cornerback that you draft 183 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: in the second round, different types of players that they 184 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 5: said they're going to be smart, they still were out there. 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: You have other guys like Justin Jones, Balal Nicholas who 186 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: they mentioned, and instead they're working off to the side 187 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: or at least still in the building in some form 188 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: or facet. So look, at the end of the day, 189 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 5: what we know is that there's a commitment to the 190 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 5: health and development of these guys. They've reported they're in 191 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 5: the building. Johnathananon said attendance out one hundred percent, so 192 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: he knows exactly where everybody is at. It's just really 193 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 5: seeing where they're going to be at come July. 194 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: And what we also know is how good Josh Wet 195 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: looks in an Arizona Cardinals uniform wearing that number ten. 196 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: It's not a single digit, but talking with him during 197 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: media Day on Monday, he likes the look. It looks 198 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: a little bit sleeker than maybe a larger number does 199 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: and you make that comment, all right, look good, feel good, 200 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: play good. And the Cardinals not only want good play 201 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: out of Josh, what they're expecting great play from Josh? 202 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: What considering they made him a number one priority at 203 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: the start of free agency. 204 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of number ten jerseys, 205 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 5: you know, inside State Farm Stadium, and they're not going 206 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 5: to be a DeAndre Hopkins jersey. It's going to be 207 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: a Josh sweat jersey. And I think that this is 208 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 5: going to be a play that, although he's very soft spoken, 209 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 5: that the fan base is really going to rally around 210 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 5: because of the fact that he was the number one 211 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 5: free agency addition. Outside it may be his former Philadelphia 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 5: Eagles teammate and Milton Williams who went to the Patriots, 213 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: Joshwett is potentially right up there as being number one 214 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 5: one a number two in terms of the biggest move 215 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: of free agency, without question, the number one move that 216 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals did make. He is going to be 217 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 5: a player that this team is very excited to use 218 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 5: in multiple different facets. I'm sure they're going to have 219 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: him drop back and coverage a little bit. They're going 220 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 5: to have him rush the passer. It's just going to 221 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: be a matter of what do you do with your 222 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: rotation because we know Nick Rolis likes to utilize that rotation. 223 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 5: Josh Wett is a three down player. He can be 224 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: out there first, second down, third down, whatever it is. 225 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: What do you do with the other outside linebackers that 226 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: we just previously discussed. Nonetheless, though Johnathan Gannon said that 227 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 5: they're going to use Josh Wewtt a little bit differently 228 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: than he did in Philadelphia. I asked Josh Wett during 229 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: his press conference, as he's able to sense that yet, 230 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 5: and he's not really because of the fact that he's 231 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 5: only been here for a handful of days since mandatory 232 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 5: mini camp has officially kicked off by It'll be interesting 233 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 5: to see in what ways that are different than how 234 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 5: he was used in Philadelphia because he had his best 235 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: seasons with JG and Nick Rolis and Philly. 236 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: You invest that much money in an individual, you expect 237 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: to see him on the field a lot. It's the 238 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: first four year contract and record guarantee money from general 239 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: manager Monty austin Ford, So you put forth a lot 240 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: to acquire a talent in Josh. We who not only 241 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: can rush the passer, but we heard Nick Rolis a 242 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago talk about how he brings violence 243 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: in the run game and is able to set the edge. So, 244 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: all right, you've bring in this player who you're playing 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: a lot of money for, who was used to playing 246 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps on game day. But this defensive 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff likes the rotation. So how do you kind 248 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: of balance that, especially when it's not just go get 249 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback this outside linebacker within this defense, and we've 250 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: talked about it, it's why they values even Collins so much, 251 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: and it's why certain outside linebackers, slash edge rushers don't 252 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: fit with the Arizona Cardinals because if you're a one 253 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: dimensional edge rusher, meaning just go get the quarterback, you're 254 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be fit here. You have to be able 255 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to do multiple things to be able to play multiple downs, 256 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: and as we talked this week, Zach, it's not just 257 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback, but you have to earn the 258 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: right to rush the passer, and that's being better on 259 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: first down, second down, a third down specialist. As far 260 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: as edge rusher, there's no room for that on this 261 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: offense or on this defense, it's to say. 262 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: And I think a guy like Xavier Thomas was used 263 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 5: in that third down role mostly during his first season 264 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: with the Arizona Cardinals. And yeah, there were flashes from 265 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 5: Xavier Thomas, but it wasn't as consistent because you, as 266 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: you alluded to Craig, you don't have that role in 267 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: this scheme necessarily with Nick Rowlis, where your only job 268 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 5: is to rush the passer. Team prides itself upon stopping 269 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 5: the run first and foremost, first and foremost, and that's 270 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: also why they invested as much as they did on 271 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: the defensive line. We could talk about all the different 272 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: additions to the outside linebacker room on. 273 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: The defensive line. 274 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 5: You bring in a big body like Dalvin Tomlinson, and 275 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 5: then you bring another huge body right next to him 276 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: in Koles Campbell. And then you also go draft an 277 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: All American player from the SEC and Ole miss and 278 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: Walter Nolan the third in the first round and the 279 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: sixteenth overall pick. And you also have Darius Robinson, a 280 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: healthy Darius Robinson returning route. When that room in that union, 281 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 5: the defensive front is able to stop the run, that's 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: going to allow players like Josh Wett like Baron Browning 283 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 5: to be able to just let their hair down, go 284 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: nuts and get traded to the quarterback. 285 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Josh Whatitt was asked about this defensive scheme and mentioned 286 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: even going back to when JG was the defensive coordinator 287 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and Rales was the linebackers coach inside linebackers. 288 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: It wasn't his position coach, but he talked to about 289 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: the freedom he felt within that defensive scheme under JG. 290 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: And Nick Rolis feels the same way as he does 291 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: here now early in the offseason, but kind of senses 292 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: that it might be somewhat have that freedom again within 293 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: the confines of that particular play and the structure the 294 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: rules of what are needed for that particular play, but 295 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the ability to kind of just have his natural ability 296 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: come through, whether it again that is getting after the quarterback, 297 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: set in the edge or dropping into coverage, because I 298 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: do think you're going to see Sweat drop into coverage 299 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: because if that's if you're a three down linebacker, you're 300 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: on the field, you're gonna have to do a little 301 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: bit of everything, and you might see Josh Swat drop 302 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: into coverage. Heck, we saw it with Chandler Jones, a 303 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: couple of times, and I think Sweat might be a 304 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit He might be a little bit more prepared 305 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and have a little bit more athleticism to do that 306 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: than say a Chandler Jones, who was outstanding getting to 307 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback well. 308 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: Also, their body shapes are a little bit differently because 309 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 5: Josh Wett is pretty lean and because of that, he 310 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 5: also has that ability to drop back. And I think 311 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: that when you have certain players that are on the field, 312 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 5: if you're an offensive coordinator and you're looking out as 313 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: to the defensive formation and who's out there, there are 314 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: certain players where you know, all right, all they're doing 315 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: is blitzing the quarterback. All they're doing is trying to 316 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: have that pass pressure. With the way Nick Rollis's defensive 317 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: scheme is designed, it puts opposing offenses at such a 318 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: disadvantage because you don't know what you have. Zavin Collins 319 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: drops back plenty of times. He's really a jack of 320 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: all trades and was used in so many different ways. 321 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: There he is covering Tyreek Kill on one playing, though 322 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 5: in the very next play here he is blitzing the quarterback. 323 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: You never know what you're gonna be getting out of 324 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: some of these players. Just because Joshwtt had eighteen and 325 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: a half sacks twenty two tackles for loss during his 326 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: two years in Philadelphia with johnath Degannon and also his 327 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 5: only Pro Bowl appearance in twenty twenty one, just because 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: you knew he has that ability to rush after the 329 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: quarterback doesn't mean that that's always going to be how 330 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: the Cardinals. 331 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: End up using it. 332 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: Well, look at his numbers. Talking about Josh SWT next 333 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: Gen stats. I looked this up earlier on Wednesday, just 334 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: how sweat is against the run. His two best seasons 335 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: defending the rush came in the two seasons he was 336 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: with JG and Nick Rolis as far as number of 337 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: run stops compared to the past two seasons. So again 338 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: it's you want to rush the quarterback, all right, Stop 339 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: the run on first down, stop the run on second down, 340 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: and again you're on the field for those first two 341 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: downs in order to make your money. Prove that the 342 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: price that they paid to acquire you, Josh what was 343 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: worth it, because on third down you're getting the quarterback 344 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: on the ground and the offense off the field. 345 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: I posted a clip on my ex account of Zach 346 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: Azy cards of Josh Sweat working with Matt Feeney and 347 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator Nick Rolis in terms of how he's able 348 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: to read the run because they had it what it 349 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: looked like from the drill, and I could be mistaken here. 350 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 5: It was sort of a read option type of way 351 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: where you're not sure if the quarterback is going to 352 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 5: rip it and run or if they're just gonna hand 353 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: it off to the running back. And it was just 354 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 5: josht and Baron Browning doing the drills, and you could 355 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: see the quickness and the way that Josh Wet starts 356 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 5: to thinking, mind you, we're just on the sidelines watching 357 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 5: how they do it out on the field, but just 358 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: seeing the way he's able to break it down and 359 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: it's quick, but just seeing how he's able to go 360 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 5: after the running back and try to stop the run 361 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 5: and try to have those tackles for loss, just like 362 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 5: he did in Philadelphia as that run stopper. 363 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: It's something that this Cardinals defense needs. 364 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 5: You know that you're going to have big bodies like 365 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 5: Klay's Campbell and Dalvin Tomlinson plugging the middle, what are 366 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 5: your outside linebackers going to be able to do to 367 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 5: get off the edge and still stop those running backs. 368 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: There's no question Joshwa can make an impact. It's just 369 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: a question of what kind of an impact. Is it 370 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: more against the run or is it more rushing the quarterback. 371 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: Because we know what the numbers say. This team was 372 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: bottom third twentieth in the league as far as stopping 373 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: the run. The sack numbers were middle of the road 374 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: forty one sacks, which was tied with the Eagles for 375 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: thirteenth in the league. So yeah, we all focus on 376 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: the sack numbers. But I'll go back to what I 377 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: said earlier, Zach, if you want to sack the quarterback, 378 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: we'll put that quarterback in obvious passing situations, meaning on 379 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: first and second down they're not being able to run 380 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: the ball effectively. So you're gonna see josh Wet. You're 381 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: going to see Zavi and Collins on the field fifty 382 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: to fifty five percent of the time. Maybe Josh what 383 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: sixty to sixty five percent of the time. If you're 384 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: a true three down line. 385 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be more in the sixty to 386 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: sixty five percent range. He'll be the outlier of that 387 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 5: outside linebackers room. Because as you, as we kicked off 388 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 5: the show talking about and not just the heat, but 389 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: the money that you spent on Josh Swett. You are 390 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 5: not spending that sort of money and putting that sort 391 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: of investment into a player to play half the snaps 392 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 5: out there. So I do expect to see Josh Wett 393 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: a little bit more than the other outside linebackers. Now, 394 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that that he's not going to be 395 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 5: a part of this rotation. He will be a part 396 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 5: of this rotation, but he's still going to be the 397 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 5: key piece that you're going to see more often than 398 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 5: any other outside linebacker. 399 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: And what I liked in hearing from Josh on Wednesday 400 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: on is how he's embracing this role because he knows 401 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: he was the big ticket item in the offseason, the 402 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: big fish that was landed by GM MONTI, Austin Forts too. 403 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: He is coming in here, I wouldn't say with any pressure, 404 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: but just the knowledge and the understanding that they made 405 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: a large investment in me, and I am coming here 406 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: for a reason and I'm gonna do whatever is asked 407 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: of me to make sure that not only am I successful, 408 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: but the team is successful. And he referenced that during 409 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: his introductory press conference at bars in Philadelphia with the Eagles. 410 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: You know this, Zach, And again I'm not making an 411 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Eagles or Philly reference here, but no, you're a fan 412 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: of that team. Once upon time, you were a fan 413 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: of that team. But there was a lot of talents 414 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: on that Eagles defense. Now all of a sudden you 415 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: lose part of that talent and you come to the 416 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals to where, yeah, you are a big fish. You're 417 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: an even bigger fish here with the Arizona Cardinals. 418 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: I'll toss it out. 419 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: I'll toss your speculation and comment out in a different way. 420 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: When I covered the Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl 421 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three, when it was at State Farms 422 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 5: Stadium with Johnathan Gannon as a defensive coordinator, as an 423 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: unbiased member of the media, when that was happening, you 424 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 5: look at the guys that are in that defensive unit. 425 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 5: There you got Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Hassan Redick coming 426 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 5: off the edge, a bunch of other players that you 427 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 5: know earn big time contracts. You had Jordan Davis, all 428 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 5: these different studs that were out there for the Philadelphia Eagles. 429 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 5: Josh Sweat was just a part of that rotation. Now, 430 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 5: granted that there's a reason why Philadelphia, with Johnathangannon as 431 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 5: their defensive coordinator, had that seventy sax season, and Josh 432 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 5: Sweat was was a part of that and you had 433 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 5: you saw his success, but it was so. 434 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: Many different players. 435 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 5: There are so many weapons on that Philadelphia Eagles defense 436 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 5: that it made it a little bit tough for Josh 437 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 5: Swett to stand out, especially on the interior because of 438 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 5: Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham and how they were able 439 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 5: to plug the gaps, similar to what you're hoping for 440 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 5: and expecting from Kalais Campbell and Dalvin Tomlinson. I think 441 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: that that when Monte Austin Ford is trying to construct 442 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: this Arizona Cardinals team, that's something he has in the 443 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 5: back of his mind what worked with Jonathan Gannon. Jonathan 444 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 5: Ganna giving him the same input. I'm not saying they're 445 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: trying to copy Philadelphia or what Philadelphia did, but the 446 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 5: NFL is a copycat league. You get to see what 447 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: teams are doing that are working and what are not working. 448 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 5: And as Monti Austin for and Jonathan Ganner are constructing 449 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: this team, they both in knowledge it begins in the 450 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: trenches and then you're able to space it out from there. 451 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 5: The Cardinals heavily invested in the offensive line in the 452 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 5: first two seasons with JG and Drew Petsing and Money 453 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 5: Austin for it. Now the defensive line is getting its love. 454 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: And again, can this defense. Talking about the Cardinals defense 455 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: skit stops, whether against the run or the pass, with 456 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: just a four man rush, whether that's defensive lineman or 457 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: a combination of d line and edge rushers, that means 458 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: if four are going forward, seven are dropping back, which 459 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: makes it much more difficult for quarterbacks. And that's again 460 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: what we saw in the Super Bowl. And if you're 461 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: able to do that more times than not, you're going 462 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: to have success and get stops, get that offense off 463 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: the football field, and that's the goal of every team. 464 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I get it, But that does seem to be what 465 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: this offseason has been moving towards, was all right, what 466 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: do we need to do to where we're not having 467 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: to scheme up five to six guys because the quarterback 468 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: has too much time in the pocket and we're forced 469 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: to blitz a lot. Maybe we don't need to send 470 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: that sixth guy. We can just sometimes send an occasional 471 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: fifth guy and all of a sudden there's more guys 472 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: on the back end to help with the past defense. 473 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: Well, I think that also is going to depend on 474 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: who's gonna be your Mike linebacker. Do you have Mac 475 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 5: Wilson out there that's gonna be only that inside linebacker 476 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: that you rarely see, you know, go through the A 477 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: gap and try to get to the quarterback or is 478 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 5: he going to be that hybrid again. Even though when 479 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: we saw him out there, we knew Kaiier White was 480 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 5: the Mike linebacker. He was always gonna be the one 481 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 5: that was dropping back into coverage, was diagnosing wherever the 482 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: run was going to be at. MacWilson typically was coming 483 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 5: off the edge kind of playing that Sam linebacker role. Now, 484 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: if mac Wilson's out there, your your defensive scheme looks 485 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 5: totally different because there's a chance that you do have 486 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: the typical four man rush and then you have your 487 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: inside linebacker and mac Wilson blitz up the middle kind 488 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: of have that delay rush. 489 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: We don't we don't know what what. 490 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: The where the direction is going for who that green 491 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: dot is going to become. But when it comes down 492 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 5: to it. Your cornerbacks are a lot better than what 493 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 5: they were, Your edge rushers are a lot better, the 494 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 5: defensive lines a lot better. And I know some people, 495 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 5: some members of the media have asked, like, is this 496 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 5: team better, and some of the guys said like, I'm 497 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 5: not sure yet. On paper, this team is so much 498 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: better because of the resources that you have been able 499 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 5: to bring into the table. To have a guy like 500 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 5: Josh Sweat join the Arizona Cardinals that allows them to 501 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: that shows just how serious this defense is ultimately becoming. 502 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: Now, we won't know for sure defensively until training camp, 503 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: and even in training camp, at some point, all right, 504 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: you kind of get tired of seeing that other two 505 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: or that the same colored uniform coming at you. So 506 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: I think the first real, the first true test before 507 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: the start of the regular season will be when the 508 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals head to Denver for one big and that's the 509 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: words that Jonathan Gannon used one big joint practice with 510 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos ahead of that preseason game in Denver in 511 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: Week two. Because now, all of a sudden, not only 512 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: offensively going up against a strong, vanced Joseph led defense, 513 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: but the Broncos offense and how successful they were and 514 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: what many people believe is an ascending offense with B 515 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: and company. What that Cardinals defense does again joint practice, 516 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: it's a controlled environment, but are you able to get 517 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: some stops, make some plays, get your hand on some footballs, 518 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: cause some turnovers, bat some balls down to where you're 519 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: not having to chase after ball carriers. And again, all 520 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: that time, effort and energy in the off season pays 521 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: off in that joint practice and then we get to 522 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: see what happens really Week one in New Orleans, and. 523 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: There's gonna be some physicality. The pads will be on 524 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 5: during that practice. And you know, in most cases during 525 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 5: this part of the offseason, the cornerbacks can't really get 526 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: too physical with the wide receivers. They can get physical 527 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 5: at all, really, and in most cases the cornerbacks kind 528 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 5: of have to duck their heads when passes are coming 529 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 5: in their direction as opposed to going up and picking 530 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: it because the coaching staff wants to have that connection 531 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 5: between the quarterback and the wide receiver making sure everybody 532 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 5: is relling it in. I know is a fact that 533 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: when bow Knicks is out there, you are going to 534 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: have a lot of hungry players, a lot of hungry 535 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: defensive backs who are interested in picking off a quarterback 536 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 5: that led his team in the rookie season to the 537 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: NFL playoffs, and that'll be something that you know there. 538 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: I think Greg George kind of put it perfectly during 539 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 5: his press conference because he was talking about what it 540 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 5: means when you start off as just a camp body 541 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 5: and you're just there as somebody that needs to be there, 542 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 5: and then you ultimately compete and you try to find a. 543 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: Way for your role. 544 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 5: In this case, that is the first opportunity for so 545 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: many of these players outside of a preseason game, to 546 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 5: not just show that they are a camp body, but 547 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 5: to show their worth and what they could bring against 548 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: another NFL team. 549 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: Glad you brought up Greg Dortsch. He said something on 550 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday that even raised my eyebrows. He mentioned that he 551 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: is the longest tenured wide receiver on the team, and 552 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: you stop and think about it and go, how can 553 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: that be? And then you look at the wide receivers 554 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: on the roster and you're like, oh, yeah, Dorsch has 555 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: been here for each of the past five seasons, all right. 556 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: So I went back and looked at the eleven wide 557 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: receivers on the roster. Karta, guess who is the second 558 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: longest tenured wide receiver on the roster behind Greg Dortch. 559 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 4: Are we talking about like Andre Bachelli. 560 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: He did not see action in twenty twenty four, They're 561 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: probably Michael Wilson, correct, who is entering year three. In 562 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: other words, this is and now again. Jay Jones is 563 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: a veteran, but I'm talking about continuing years with the 564 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. So in that aspect, it is a very 565 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: young wide receiver room. When your top three wide receivers 566 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: are going into their year two, their year three, and 567 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: their year six, when you've got Marvin, Michael and Greg Dortch. 568 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: Soon we gotta start calling Marvin uncut this raid jokes aside, 569 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: of course, Look it's it's a testament to the complete 570 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: overhaul and complete reshape that this Cardinals organization has had 571 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 5: since John to Get and manti astin Ford have arrived. 572 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: It also is a testament to Greg Dorsch, who, through 573 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 5: so many different roster changes, continues to find a way 574 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 5: onto the fifty three, and a large part is due 575 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 5: to his special team skill set, which he said that 576 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 5: when he spoke to the media earlier this week, he 577 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 5: said quote, I'm always going to be on special teams 578 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: because that's a part of his game. He said that 579 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 5: even if he's a star wide receiver at some point, 580 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 5: he still wants to return kicks because for him, that 581 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 5: is a part of his that is a part of 582 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: his game that is totally underrated, underappreciated, and he also 583 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: values because he brought up the game against the Atlanta 584 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: Falcons and Week ten when Kyler Murray returned to twenty 585 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: twenty three, where he bounced off a few different Atlanta Falcons, 586 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 5: bounced off one of a Cardinals player and was able 587 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 5: to make a pretty solid return out of it, and 588 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 5: he said he could hear the crowd or roar, and 589 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 5: that was sort of one of the shifts in that 590 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 5: game when the Arizona Cardinals were able to come back 591 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: and beat the Atlanta Falcons twenty five to twenty three 592 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 5: with the Matt Prater game winning field goal. That was 593 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 5: also Trade McBride's first one hundred yard game for a 594 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: tight end in. 595 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: Thirty four years to the date. 596 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: So there was a lot of stuff that happened, but 597 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 5: it started from Greg Dortsch's punt return. So he is 598 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 5: somebody that has taken a lot of pride of being 599 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: an Arizona Cardinal and to see that he is the 600 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 5: longest tenured player. 601 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: It's a testament to him. 602 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: It's, by the way, great recall. 603 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: It's probing. Oh that was pretty good. That game meant 604 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: a lot. 605 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fact check you. I'm just gonna pretend 606 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: everything you said was absolutely true. 607 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: I could promise you it was. 608 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: By the way, count Dortch as among the many that 609 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: are excited about the new touchback on kickoffs. It's going 610 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: to be the touch thirty five as opposed to the 611 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: touch thirty. And we heard from special teams coordinator assistant 612 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: head coach Jeff Rodgers earlier this week saying he expects 613 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: or would be quote shocked if there wasn't a seventy 614 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: percent return rate this season. Last year, by the way, 615 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: thirty three and a third percent, which was up from 616 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: twenty two point one percent in twenty twenty three. So 617 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna go from twenty two to thirty three to 618 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: maybe as much as seventy percent. 619 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: As far as this. 620 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: New tweak to the dynamic kickoff, because now all of 621 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, you kick the ball out of the back 622 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: of the end zone. It's not first and ten at 623 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: the thirty it's first and ten at the thirty five. 624 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: You run two or three plays and you're in field 625 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: goal range, especially with the lake strength for a lot 626 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: of these kickers. 627 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: So I'll expose myself a little bit here during the 628 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 5: Cardinals media day which we had earlier this week, it's 629 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: playing some Madden with Michael Wilson. 630 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: And I'm Trey McBride. 631 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 5: And Trey McBride, who I did score a touchdown on 632 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 5: and still has not let me hear the end of it. 633 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 5: I saw him around the building yesterday, Craig, and he 634 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: said that he's coming back from me, so bringing on Trey. 635 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: But Michael Wilson did score a touchdown on me. I 636 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 5: did score a touchdown right back on him. 637 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: So it's a tie game. 638 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: But the reason why I bring this up beyond to 639 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 5: you know, pat myself on the back of my Madden skills, 640 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 5: is because I didn't know how to kick in the game. 641 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: And I start laughing at that. 642 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: That is pretty funny. 643 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 5: I didn't tell Chad Ryland that well. I had a 644 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 5: different conversation with Chad Ryland, but neither here there. I 645 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 5: didn't not have a kick in the game and automatically 646 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 5: had a penalty and they brought the Madden brought the 647 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 5: ball to the thirty at the time because it wasn't 648 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 5: updated to having it at thirty five. And I asked 649 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 5: Michael Wilson, as a wide receiver, how much of a 650 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 5: difference does that five yards make to start a drive? 651 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: And he looked at me, he was like, it's a. 652 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: Huge difference, because you don't realize how much of a 653 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 5: difference five yards make until you make that, well, until 654 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: you make that walk from the thirty to the thirty five, 655 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 5: and you start to realize we're not that far away 656 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: from field goal range at this rate. 657 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: That's why kickoff coverage is going to be so important. 658 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Can you get first if you are a good kicker, 659 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: as Chad Ryland is, Cad you placed that football the 660 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: coffin corner kick. Can you get it where it's high 661 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: and it's got a lot of hangtime, but it drops 662 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: inside the fifteen yard line, inside the ten yard line 663 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: to give your guys enough time to get downfield to 664 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: where it's inside the twenty five yard line, maybe inside 665 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: the thirty yard line, or if it's just becomes too 666 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: difficult to do that, or if the return guys are 667 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: too good, we just started the thirty five yard line 668 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: and it becomes much more difficult for a defense. 669 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 5: And the last thing that a defensive minded head coach 670 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: like Johnathan Gannon wants is to give opposing offenses even 671 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: more of an edge. So I do expect for the 672 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 5: Cardinals to be trying to boot it into that coffin corner, 673 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: as you were saying, try to pin him within the 674 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 5: five yard line and the goal line and try to 675 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 5: get a return out of that. But I was talking 676 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 5: with Chad Ryland. He said the leg has been very 677 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: fresh so far. So I'm interested to see what training 678 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: camp is going to look like for number thirty eight 679 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 5: because as of right now, there's no other kicker on 680 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 5: the roster, and it's maybe the first time in a 681 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 5: long time for Chad that he has not had an 682 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: opposing kicker to go against. Now that's not to say 683 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: that they don't bring in another body to try out. Still, 684 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 5: though you kept Chad Ryland as opposed to bringing back 685 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: a guy like Matt Prater. They saw something in Chad. 686 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had talking about Chad Ryland certainly earned the 687 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: right to be the lone kicker on the roster at 688 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: least at this point. 689 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: Nothing against Blake Gillikin. 690 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: I know he kicks, but I'm talking about kickoffs and 691 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: field goals as opposed to punting. But Ryland last season, 692 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: as you look at what he was able to do 693 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: again four or four on field goals above or beyond 694 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: fifty or more yards, his only misses were between forty 695 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: and forty nine yards, So very consistent and that strong 696 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: leg again, you started the thirty five yard line, two 697 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: or three plays, you've got the ball on the opponent's 698 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: forty yard line, and now that's a fifty seven yard 699 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: field goal, which is very much in range for a 700 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: lot of kickers these days. 701 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 5: I'll say this too, Chad Ryland has a lot of 702 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 5: confidence going into this year, which I think is something 703 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 5: that considering his situation and how things ended during his 704 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 5: time in Pittsburgh, during his time in New England, rather 705 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 5: to see how it was there for him to come 706 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: to the Cardinals right before the Cardinals went to go 707 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 5: play Week four against the San Francisco forty nine ers, 708 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 5: and then it ends up kicking that game ceiling field 709 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 5: goal in Santa Clara and ends up you know, doing 710 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: everything else that he did throughout the throughout the season, 711 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 5: Zero's on the clock against Carolina Panthers and nails it 712 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 5: through to go to overtime. He's going into this season 713 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 5: with a lot of confidence and I'm excited for what 714 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 5: he could bring come year number three for him. 715 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: By the way, we've established here on Cardinals Cover two 716 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, that you, 717 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: Zach are a man of many talents. Your video game 718 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: prowess is well documented here in the last five minutes 719 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: or so. We can certainly ask Trey McBride about it 720 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: and Michael Wilson about it. But also I've got a 721 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: lot of I talked a lot of might as well, 722 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: because you know, you can't talk smack to Paris Johnson 723 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: Junior or Marvin Harrison Junior. As far as that Ohio 724 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: State Penn State rivals, well. 725 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 5: There will be a story about that at some point 726 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 5: in the next coming week, So keep your eyes peeled. 727 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: Com Bird game. 728 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good one, because yeah, we put 729 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: Zack in a difficult position for that one, but you 730 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: are in a very good position. You alluded to it 731 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: earlier here on the show, but your trip back East Washington, 732 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: d C. Civics matter. This is the third, second fourth 733 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: year year in which the Arizona Cardinals have taken upwards 734 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: at two hundred and seventy plus students from Arizona to Washington, 735 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: d C. To meet politicians to see our government and 736 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: action behind the scenes. You are on that trip to 737 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: document it, and I know there's already been some content posted. 738 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: There's more content to come. But as far as your 739 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: role and your experience on that trip with owner Michael 740 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: Bidwell and several students from Arizona. 741 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 5: It was a pretty awesome trip. We sent two hundred 742 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 5: and seventy two students to be exact, from multiple different 743 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: high schools throughout the entire throughout the entire state. They 744 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 5: had an essay that they had to fill up prompt 745 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 5: out for to discuss about there were so many different 746 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 5: options about voting, about advocacy, volunteering, whatever it is. And 747 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 5: students wrote an essay and they were selected by their 748 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 5: teachers to go on this trip. Flew them out on 749 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals team, playing the exact one that the 750 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 5: players travel on and they're just for so many of 751 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: these kids, it was even their first time flying, let 752 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 5: alone going to DC. It was their first time flying, 753 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 5: so it was so exciting. It was so rewarding to 754 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 5: see their excitement. And then once we were in DC, 755 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 5: I was warned that it was going to be busy 756 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 5: days and long days. But man from mourning from eight 757 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 5: am breakfast all the way through ten pm, which was 758 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 5: their room check, they were out and about throughout the 759 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 5: nation's capital. They went to the United States Capitol toward 760 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 5: the Rotunda and every other important spot in the Capitol, 761 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 5: spoke with the Majority with a bunch of different Congressmen 762 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 5: were there. They went inside the Supreme Court and had 763 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 5: a one on one sit down with the Supreme Court 764 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 5: Justice Brett Kavanaugh for an hour plus and politics aside. 765 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 5: And I know in today's world politics it's tough to 766 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 5: not put it aside. But I know that there are 767 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 5: a lot of people in the Twitter streets that were 768 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 5: making comments this wasn't a trip about Republican versus Democrat 769 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 5: this or that. It was about democracy and what these 770 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 5: students who are not really at that age at where 771 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 5: they could vote, but when they can vote, what can 772 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 5: they do with their voice? And I think that it 773 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 5: was something that was really special. The students at the 774 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: last part of the trip had a reflection. And while 775 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 5: I was ready to go home because I knew we 776 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 5: had mini camp coming up and I was excited to 777 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 5: see our Cardinals in action right back on the football field, 778 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 5: so many of these students didn't want to leave the trip. 779 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 4: And I think it's a testament. 780 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 5: To the program that Michael Bidwell, to the program that 781 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 5: you know, Desert Financial, Gallagher Insurance, the Close Up Foundation, 782 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 5: everybody in Washington, d C. It was a truly a 783 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 5: team effort. A lot of hands were a part of 784 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 5: this and making it happened. And uh, kudos also to 785 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 5: these students for being willing to listen and to learn. 786 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: Well, said Zach. 787 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: All of that contents on Easycardinals dot com and pay 788 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: attention for more headed your way as well. Civics matters 789 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: and as we like to say here, Zach Gershman matters. 790 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 5: Oh stop it please clip that's I can make that 791 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 5: my my morning ring tone when I wake up. 792 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 4: And it's just Craig Greele was saying, Zach matters. Yeah, 793 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 4: Zach matters. 794 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: And see Cody right now getting that pencil out and 795 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm on paper. 796 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 5: And I'm going to wake up every morning when he's 797 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 5: when he asked me to wake up at five forty 798 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 5: five to listen to Cardinals Early Bird. 799 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 4: I will have that as my ringtone. 800 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: All right, we'll just well have to make sure let's 801 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: not clip that because I don't want to be held 802 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: accountable to that. But it'll be five forty five. It's 803 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: it's top and bottom of the hour, Zach. 804 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: I mean, but I would have to wake up a 805 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: little bit earlier. 806 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: True, Ready, crag or lets you just roll over and 807 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 2: hit you know. 808 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 5: But then I'm gonna be my eyes or any blurry. 809 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna see what I'm pressing. I might end 810 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 5: up on YouTube and then we have different problem. 811 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: Fair enough, Well, good work, Zach. 812 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: And and you've got more work to come on Easycardinals 813 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: dot com. 814 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 4: Josh Sweat article coming up by the end of the day. 815 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hope you better hope otherwise you 816 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: might be answering to someone else's fair It's not me. 817 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: On that note, We'll put a lit on. This edition 818 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proudly partner of 819 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to our executive 820 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: producer Jim mamre Our associate producer Cody Fincher. For Zach Kershman, 821 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rayal Lou. We'll talk to you next time 822 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.