1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and I 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast. Hello, everybody, 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: we are scrubbing in. Um, it's Tanya here. Becca is 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: actually not going to be in today. She had a 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: family emergency and it's actually really tragic and sad, and 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: so I've been sending prayers to her family. So if 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: you guys could do that, that would be really really great. Um, 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: But everybody else is here today. So we have Mark, 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and we have Eastan, and then our guest co host 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: today is Matthew Hussy. Ladies and gentlemen. Hello, it's so 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: nice to be here. We've done we're working our way 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: through every platform. I feel like we've done stuff everywhere, 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: but we've never done it here on your podcast. I'm 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: really excited that you're not just like a guest and 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be co hosting the entire episode because 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you are in such high demand and so, 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: and Becca said she wasn't going to be back in 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: time to do the podcast. I was just like, I 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: really hope we can get Matthew Hussey in here, because uh, 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: I just obviously I just love you just at a 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: personal level, and I just think that you have such 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: great advice and um people have been really wanting you. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: So it's just going to be a great, great show. Thanks. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I really I feel lucky to be here, and I'm 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: exciting because I know people have questions, so I'm looking 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: forward to And I think I was talking to Becca 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: a lot about just like everything that's going on with 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: her family, and she was just saying how it makes 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: you realize how fleeting life really is. You know, like 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: one minute you're here, one minute you're gone, and so 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: she was just like, it's making me feel like I 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: want to, like, you know, I just live more. Yeah, yeah, 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I think that, you know. I mean, people have talked 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: about this idea that when things normalize there's going to 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: be some sort of roaring twenties resurgence. I think that people, 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: whether or not that's true, people feel that on some level. 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: I think it's made people very aware of what they 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: want to do, where they want to go, you know, 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: what trips they want to go on, and who they 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: want to spend time with. It's uh, yeah, times a 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: scary thing. And I think so it's the first podcast, 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: so normally what we would do is we would like 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: talk about our vision boards and the words that we 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: picked for the marks laughing. Um, so we can save 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: all that for when Becca comes back. Um, because there's 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: just so much to dive into. I can just tell 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: us your word, though, Can you just tell us your word? Yeah? 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: So my word for is all in. And I think 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: I realized in I did a lot of stuff kind 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: of half in, half out. I just because I think 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: of this, the pandemic quarantine, I was like so distracted 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: or not, you know, fully present. And I think from 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: now on, if I'm committing to something like this podcast 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: right now, I am all in. I'm not gonna be texting. 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be reading my anything like I'm 56 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: all in here. I want only people that are all 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: in in my life. So no more half anything in 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: my life. That's my word. That's really cool. I like 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that all in. I'm trying. Now You've got me thinking 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: about what my word would be. I do do it? 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: So do you do that? You have a word every year? 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: I do it because I I want to be I 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: don't I'm not being on making New Year's resolutions, but 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I liked I really like to set intentions and goals 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: and so I do a vision board to set goals 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and intentions, and then I feel like the word is 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of what I use, is like my filter for 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: every like decision that I make. Yeah, wow, that's great, 69 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: that's great. I have so many things like I'm trying 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: to get better at now this year, I'm trying to 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: get better at getting back to people like I. One 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: of the things I realized, I set myself like a 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: goal last year that I was gonna reach out to 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: three people a day, and then I realized I didn't 75 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: do it ever, Like I literally never did it. Of 76 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: all the things on my to do list, that was 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: the one thing I never did. And I realized it 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: was because I had a fear that if I actually 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: did text Pete. It wasn't that I had to call people. 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I literally all I had to do is text three 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: people a day, and I didn't do it. And I 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: realized it was because I was afraid that if I did, 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: it would begin conversations that I then couldn't finish and 84 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: that I was now just going to be a bad 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: guy a week from now because these people that I 86 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: reached out to first would now just be waiting for 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: a text back from me that they weren't going to get. 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: So I literally wasn't messaging people because I was worried 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to message back once they messaged back. Uh. 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: And now I've decided, like a simple thing I'm doing 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: is I'm setting myself the goal of always getting back 92 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: to the people that get that come to me, rather 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: than opening up a bunch of new threads with other people. 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: If they if they text me or if they reach 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: out to me, I'm gonna be prompt about getting back 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: to them. That would be a that would be a 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: good starting point for me. You're already really good at that, 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I think, Tanya, but I've been terrible. I am actually 99 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: pretty good that. I feel you're pretty good with that 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: with me, You get back to me pretty yeah with you? Yeah, 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: but you've just thrown me under the bus there with 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: all the people that might be listening, who I don't 103 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: get back to. Oh do you get back to Tanya? 104 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: And nice? You know, we've known each other for many years, 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: so I would just like to I feel like I 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: should be up, you know in that category. Tell that 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: to my mom. Oh that's so good to be fair. 108 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I do get back to that woman I get back 109 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: to my mom. But there are people that I'm terrible at, 110 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: people I really care about. I'm always that's that's always. Uh, 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing. It actually has no relationship 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: to who matters the most. I there are people that 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't get back to. You know, there was one 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: person in particular that I didn't. She was very kind 115 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: to me at the beginning of of last year, and 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: I meant to get back to her to say thank you, 117 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: and I built it up so much in my head, 118 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: like I like I wanted to call her and really 119 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: say properly thank you. I didn't want to send a text. 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: And a week went by, and two weeks went by, 121 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: and I kept putting it on my I need to 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: call her, I need to call her, need to call her, 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: I need it needs to be a proper thank you. 124 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: And with every week that went by, it felt like 125 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: the thank you had to get better and like the 126 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: whole thing, yeah, exactly, exactly now I need to compensate 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: for the fact that this thank you is coming too late, 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: and and it and in the end I didn't do it. 129 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: And I sent a message about three quarters of the 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: way through the year to say I'm really sorry, um, 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: because not only am I really grateful for what you did, 132 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: but now I'm truly embarrassed that I haven't said thank 133 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: you yet. And and it turns out she was quite 134 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: hurt by the fact that I hadn't, and I felt 135 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: awful because this was someone who's really good to me, 136 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and and I just remember thinking in that moment, I've 137 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: got a long way to go yet, I'm still I've 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: still got a I've gotta work on this, because it's 139 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: you know you, that's something I you know, I teach 140 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: relationships and dating and blah blah blah human dynamics and 141 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: confidence and all of that. But man, some of the 142 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: most basic things you can get wrong when you take 143 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: your eye off the balls. So interesting because I think 144 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: that it's good that you recognize it. That's the first 145 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: step recognizing it. It sucked when when she sent me 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: a message back and said I was hurt. It really 147 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: like affected my day because I was just like this, 148 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: this is someone I actually like, revalue as a human 149 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: being and was good to me, you know, And I'm 150 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: definitely the like I was the one. You know, you 151 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: you have the best intentions. You you know that I 152 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: wanted to call you and say thank you properly, and 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: that was part of why, you know, this was partly 154 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: me being a perfectionist and and thinking I need the 155 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: best way to say thank you. Instead of giving an 156 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: eight out of ten thank you, just make it an 157 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: make it a seven, just do it. Instead of doing that, 158 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: I set the bar too high, and then I procrastinated 159 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: on it and lack of organization. So it's like, you know, 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: perfectionism meets lack of organization, and what you have is 161 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: someone who looks like they don't care. And it's it's 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: that that's when the wires really really get crossed, and 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: that's what's so sad often about just relationships. But I 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: felt horrible. I think, if anything, that's something I I'm 165 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: trying to be better at. But I'm also I think 166 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the pandemic made me like really good at it because 167 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have I wasn't seeing anybody, so I feel 168 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: like I had to go out of my way to 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: either send a text or send something nice to just 170 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: kind of share how I felt about these people in 171 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: my life, you know, but definitely something to get better on. 172 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: It always means so much when people do that. It 173 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: means so much, and I often underestimate how much it 174 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: means when I do it for other people. You know, 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I recognize that it means a lot when someone does 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: it for me, but I, um, I continuously underestimate the 177 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: power has when I do it. So that's something I 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: remind myself of a lot. So you mentioned this. You 179 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: are a dating relationship expert. So many of the things 180 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: that I like, like use all the time and have 181 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: used my life, I learned from you from your book 182 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Get the Guy like my whole Handkerchief. Analogy about how 183 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: like I always tell women, drop the handkerchief and let 184 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: the guy pick it up, because that's your kind of 185 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: way of tiptoeing into letting him make the first move 186 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: came from you. So that's when I met you, which 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: was when I don't remember what year that was, Oh 188 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: my god, maybe it must have been seven years ago, 189 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: something like that, six seven years ago at this point. Um. 190 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: And then one of the questions actually got from a 191 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: couple scrubbing in listeners was when are you going to 192 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: publish your next book? M mm hmm. Well, I don't 193 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: know if I can even talk about that yet, but 194 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: I suffice it to say I am. I'm I'm doing 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of work every day right now on a 196 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: special project. So yeah, I'm very I'm very Uh, I 197 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: am very excited about that because it's I'm I'm writing 198 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: at the moment, and I've never felt more passionate about right. 199 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: It's hard, you know what, Like you know, it's it's 200 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: hard having spoken about something so much. You know, I've 201 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: spoken about dating and relationships for well, I'm thirty three now, 202 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: I've been doing this since I was nine, and so 203 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's been over a decade. And I realized 204 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: there's so many things I want to talk about, but 205 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I all these videos I've done over the years, I 206 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: realized I haven't written the best book I can possibly write. 207 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, that last book, Crazy as it sounds, I 208 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: wrote that when I was twenty four, and and that book, 209 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: as it was, a New York Times best seller, is 210 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: still a seminal best seller today in the in the 211 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: dating world, anyone who wants to pick up a book 212 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: on on how to date better, how to find a 213 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: tract and keep the right person, that is still one 214 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: of the main books out there that people buy. And 215 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: and yet I know, I'm like, oh my god, I've got, 216 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, I've evolved so much since then, and 217 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: I have so much that I want to put on 218 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: the page. And I'm as I'm writing, I'm getting excited 219 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: because I really feel this is going to be the 220 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: best thing. That's very exciting. Um, you can't so is 221 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: it knocking me about dating? No, it is. It's gonna 222 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: be my It might it might be the last book 223 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I ever write about about this subject. I don't know. 224 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: We'll see, but I'm like, I'm I'm writing it as 225 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: if I'm never going to say another word about this again. Interesting, Okay, 226 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: we got a lot of questions that were like kind 227 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: of not rapid fire, but a little bit more like quicker, 228 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: quick one liner questions. And then we've got some specific 229 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: emails that were just for you. So I think, Mark, 230 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: should we start out with like the quick, the quick 231 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: dating ones at the beginning, and then you can do 232 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: the emails more towards the end. Well, it sounds just fine. 233 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, Matthew. It's nice to have you. 234 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: And that was an interesting story because I think of 235 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: you as being somebody who's got it all together and 236 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: always does the right thing. So thank you for that. 237 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Story that was great. You're very welcome, Mark. That is 238 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: the danger of my position in life is that I, uh, yeah, 239 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to It's hard to screw up in those ways, 240 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: which is why I tried to mention them as often 241 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: as possible, remove any pedestal effects that might be uh, 242 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: as much as you can. All right, this is from Grace. 243 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: Where are your thoughts on the phrase of the idea 244 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: it'll happen when you least expect it when it comes 245 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: to dating. Grace's single. She's twenty four. Her friends were 246 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: all in relationships, and she thinks about wanting to be 247 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: in a relationship all the time. But is there value 248 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: from stepping away from the apps and the expectations and 249 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: just seeing where things take you. Is having expectations that 250 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: it's going to happen for her soon setting herself up 251 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: for failure? Well, Expectations can create a sense of both 252 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: impatience and continual disappointment when it doesn't happen or isn't 253 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: happening on some timeline that we've invented in our minds. 254 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: We have a blueprint for the way that we think 255 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: our life is supposed to go, and then we tend 256 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: to be very unhappy when our actual life is out 257 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: of sync with the blueprint. The idea of it happening 258 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: when you least expect it is. It's a tricky one 259 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: because there is there's truth to it. But here's where 260 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the truth lies, and there's a There's a writer called 261 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: John k who wrote a book called Obliquity. He was 262 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: a professor at Oxford University, and the compliquity was about 263 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: the idea that the things we want in life are 264 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: best achieved indirectly. That if we want to make money, 265 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: then focusing on making money isn't the optimal way of 266 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: making money. It's providing a great service to the world. 267 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: It's understanding what gap there may be in the market, 268 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: is creating an incredible product, it's delivering value, it's building 269 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: an amazing team. All of these things lead to making 270 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: money as a byproduct. Our love lives operate in the 271 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: same way. I often think that people take far too 272 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: direct and approach in their love life. They're they're very 273 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: literal about the things that will improve their love life. 274 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, let me go get my hair done, let 275 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: me get on a dating app, let me go on 276 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: as many dates as possible. And it's not that those 277 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: things are bad, of course, they are part of data. 278 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: But people don't. People continuously underestimate the things that seemingly 279 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with our love lives, that have 280 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: a major impact on our love lives. And so if 281 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: you take you know, if you take two people that 282 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: meet at a friends engagement party, for example, and they're 283 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: asked for years after that, how did you guys meet? 284 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: And they say, well, you know, he looked across the 285 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: room and we made eye contact, and you know, I 286 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: went over to the catering stand and he came over 287 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: and he said high and then we we we you know, 288 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: the rest is history. Were now together, you'd say, wow, 289 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: it was all about that first moment when they made 290 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: eye contact and you know, he decided to say something. 291 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: But if you zoom out, you see the oblique picture 292 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: of how that came to be, which is, she had 293 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: friends that meant that she was at an engagement party 294 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: in the first place. He did too. They both had 295 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: schedules that were free enough that they could attend that 296 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: engagement party. They both lived in close enough proximity to 297 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: that city to be able to attend that engagement party. 298 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: If one of them had lived in the middle of 299 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: nowhere far away, they wouldn't have been able to come. 300 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: So there's all these things that had to be the 301 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: case for these two people to have that moment where 302 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: the eye contact occurred. And I find that in people's 303 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: love lives, they continually underestimate the big things that make 304 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: those little moments possible. So when I think about it 305 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: happening when you least suspect it, that's not that shouldn't 306 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: be a mandate to be reactive instead of proactive. It 307 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: should instead tell you that there are certain leathers you 308 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: can pull that are more subtle than just going on 309 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: another date. That if you make great friends, that always 310 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: mean you have something to do. That always mean you 311 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: have offers of places to go. And if you continuously 312 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: create new social groups or make a point to say 313 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: yes to invitations that you wouldn't normally say yes to, 314 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: that put you in a new environment with new people, 315 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: so that now you can meet a whole new network. 316 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: If you work on yourself so that you actually feel 317 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: good when you go out, and that makes you want 318 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: to go out more. If you have a life that 319 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: if you if you if you have a life that 320 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: brings people to you, if you even your time management 321 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: has an impact on your love life. Just being on 322 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: top of your time management. If you're not, you're not 323 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: going out, you've got too many other things to do, 324 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: you're disorganized, you're dysfunctional. It doesn't work. So all of 325 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: these things have an impact, and those are the things 326 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: that mean that all these right things are in place 327 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: so that suddenly you're on a hike and you meet 328 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: someone on that hike and you go, God, I wasn't 329 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: even expecting to meet anyone on that hike. Yeah, but 330 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: you were feeling good because you were feeling fit and healthy. 331 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: You were outside in a place where people can meet 332 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: in a casual environment, which because you were hiking and 333 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: doing sociabile activities, you were actually doing many of the 334 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: right things. The only thing that happened for you is 335 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: that someone happened to cross your path in that moment. 336 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: This actually brings me to another question that I got 337 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: a lot of from UM, and it was body image 338 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: issues and trying to date. So the lot the question 339 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: was they're not feeling the best about themselves that either 340 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: gained weight or just kind of feeling a little scruffy. 341 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Should they wait to date until they are feeling their 342 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: best or what's your take on that? Listen. That kind 343 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: of thinking is the kind of thinking that becomes an 344 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: excuse to do nothing in every part of our lives. 345 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: M M. It doesn't matter what it is. You can 346 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: say that about anything. You can say I'm not You know, 347 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: I could have said back in the day, I'm not 348 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm not Should I wait until I'm older before I 349 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: start working with people, are coaching people, and you have 350 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: to say, I'll do what I can right now. It 351 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: may not be the perfect version, but that's life. Isn't 352 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: about doing the perfect version of something? Is doing the 353 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: imperfect version of something. You could use that excuse to 354 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: not work out today. You could say, should I like, 355 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: should I wait until Jim's reopened? Like some parts of 356 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: the world, Jim's aren't open still, We're not in l A. 357 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: They're not open, right, so you could say, should I 358 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: wait until Jim's reopened? That's a recipe for disaster. Right. 359 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: We've got to say, Okay, there's an imperfect version of 360 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: me working out right now. Maybe it's not. My favorite 361 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: is the gym, but I don't get to do my 362 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: favorite right now. I have to go on a hiker, 363 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I have to do an indoor workout, I have to 364 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: go for a walk or a run or whatever. You 365 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: So my my advice is accept that, Yeah, it may 366 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: be true that a month from now, two months from now, 367 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: three months from now, I'm gonna feel better about myself 368 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: when I get a haircut and I lose some white 369 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: and I do this. I'm not one of those people 370 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: that thinks you're just ah, you should just feel your 371 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: best right now. You're amazing, You're there, You're that. It's like, no, 372 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: you will. You will feel better when you feel healthier, 373 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: when you feel fitter, when you feel sexy. It will 374 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: make you feel better, that's for sure. But accept that 375 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: and just go, yeah, that's gonna make me feel five percent, 376 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: ten percent better. But that doesn't mean I can't do 377 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: something right now where I'm at, which is leads me 378 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: to another question that came up a lot um, which 379 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: was dating and in the pandemic. So how do you 380 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: do it? How do you meet people when you're scared 381 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: of COVID? What's the best approach? Well, this is all 382 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: about communication. Ultimately, It's more about communication than it is 383 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: about COVID in so many ways, because it's about saying 384 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: everyone has boundaries even on a normal date. Everyone has boundaries. 385 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: But like, I like kiss on a first date, and 386 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: that's how I like. I just like to see there's chemistry. 387 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: So I feel like I don't think i'd want to 388 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: be kissing any strangers right now, right right, But but 389 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: then you know that can be used even if that 390 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: could be used to flirt, you could be like, by 391 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: the way, you know, I would actually like to kiss 392 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: you right now, I hate COVID. You know it. You 393 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: can use that. It doesn't have to be this thing 394 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: that takes flirting off the table or take sexual tension 395 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: off the table, or and when you say something like that, 396 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: even though you're not kissing the person, and I agree with, 397 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: you learn you learn a whole lot about kissing. I mean, 398 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: I think there was even a study done that showed 399 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: the enormous number of people that decided not to continue 400 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: dating someone after the first kiss, which just shows you 401 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: how important the first kisses. Get it, get it on 402 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: the first date, you know, get it done. I But 403 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: if you can't, then you can still see how someone 404 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: reacts to that flirtatious moment, and you can you know, 405 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: that's the pain, the fact that you're having to delay 406 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: that when it's something that would be normally be what 407 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: you do is a bit of a pain. But um, 408 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: but I don't think that, you know. I think ultimately 409 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: we have to all decide what we're comfortable with and 410 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: then get good at communicating that in a way that 411 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: is still fun. There's still kind of charming. You know. 412 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: It's the same as seeing someone on a date and 413 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: being like I would normally you know, the first I'm 414 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: someone who would normally walk straight up and give someone 415 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: a big hug, like that's my nature. I'm an affectionate person. 416 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: But you know, it's saying to someone I would normally 417 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: give you a big hug right now and say hi, 418 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: and I can only do one of those things right now, 419 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: but I'd like to give you a hug because you 420 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: look great in that ship. You know. It's it's like 421 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: using it, play with it. Don't just because something is serious, 422 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it has to be approached with 423 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: a serious tone. You could say many serious things with 424 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: a playful tone and a wink. And I think that's 425 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: where people that's where people lose it a little bit, 426 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: is they they're like, oh god, it's such a difficult 427 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: time and I've got but it's it can still be playful. 428 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: And then look, once you decide you like someone, you 429 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: can also you can always then see if you want 430 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: to start like just seeing that person. That's true. I 431 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: feel like this probably the pandemic took a lot of 432 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: casual dating off the table, right it did for people 433 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: who care about not getting COVID. There's a decent number 434 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: of people that I think on that about you know 435 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: that they're like throw caution into the wind. But there's 436 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: for the people who are like either genuinely clinically vulnerable 437 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: or people who just don't want to get sick and 438 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: don't want to risk it. Yeah, it's it's made that 439 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: it's made dating more serious in that sense. It's made 440 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: it's made the process a little more serious in that way, 441 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: and that's that can be that can be frustrating, but 442 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's also kind of interesting that you can 443 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: start to the sex is off the table in a 444 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: in a different kind of way, so now you might 445 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: actually get to know someone a little better. Like that's 446 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting to me that you might jump 447 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: into bed with someone less quickly and that as a result, 448 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: you might actually see if you can hold a conversation 449 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: with that person before it becomes clouded by whether you 450 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: have decent sex. Very true, very very true. If you 451 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: can't have a good conversation with someone before it gets intimate, 452 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: it you're going to be in trouble later on. Like 453 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: intimacy isn't going to save you from having not being 454 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: able to pass the time with someone. But I think 455 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: that often intimacy does mask that I think we sometimes 456 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: get with people. I'm though, I have no issue with 457 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: people hooking up quickly, but I do think sometimes it 458 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: masks the fact that we don't actually have a lot 459 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: in common with someone, or we don't actually like the 460 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: hours don't pass that quickly if you take intimacy off 461 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: the table and we're just having a conversation. And for 462 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: anyone who's serious about dating, if you're looking to just 463 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: hook up, it's a really annoying time. If you're looking 464 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: to find someone serious, then you know there's I forget 465 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: the name of the guy, I always forget his name, 466 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: but there's a guy wrote a book, David Brooks. I 467 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: think it is but he said marriage is a fifty 468 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: year conversation. And I think that we're often our early 469 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: intimacy often masks the fact that we're not going to 470 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: be able to have a fifty year conversation with this person. 471 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, when I was like dating 472 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: and I was having unattached sex, I was doing it 473 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: before what I wanted was commitment, and so I realized 474 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: I kind of just like had this like epiphany and 475 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm not going to have unattached 476 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: sex anymore. I just like took it off the table, 477 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and it like changed the game for me. I mean, 478 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have sex for years, um, but I was 479 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: okay with it because it like changed the dynamic of 480 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: of my dating and like my pain that I was 481 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: in because I was just like having sex, giving my 482 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: body but not getting the commitment that I wanted. So 483 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: I was like actually a lot happier dating because of it. 484 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: I I am. I'm fascinated by the subject because I 485 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's talked about with nearly enough nuances, like 486 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't have. I come to it very agnostic in 487 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: the sense that I have zero religious background. I certainly, um, 488 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: it will be hard to charge me with the label 489 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: of being approved. So I look at the whole sex 490 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: thing and I just tried to look at it objectively 491 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: and go, what's the what's the effect that it has? 492 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: And I do think that there is an effect that's 493 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: not talked about of hooking up casually, even if all 494 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: it does is sort of if it cheapens the act 495 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: to you to the point where it no longer you know, 496 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: you just kind of no longer know where you are. 497 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't understand. And this is just 498 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: for me personally. I can only speak about my self. 499 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: But for me, the goal is to have a lifelong partner. 500 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: That's what I want, you know what I mean, Like, 501 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: that's the goal. I want to do life with one person. 502 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: I want commitment. And so for me, it was always 503 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: just like why would I be having sex with all 504 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: these people without that commitment that I want. I have 505 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: a vibrator, I can take care of myself, like I'm good, 506 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So I don't need to 507 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: be I don't need to be engaging in that and 508 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: giving my body in that way when I'm not getting 509 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: the commitment that I want. And so I think, like 510 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a thing that I just remember 511 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: in my early twenties, so many girls just being like, oh, 512 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: it's fine, just like have fun, let lose live your life. 513 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm just not wired that way. And 514 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: I think that's okay because I recognize that about myself. 515 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: But here's I don't know if you've found this, but this, 516 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: to me is is relative age is relevant because I 517 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't drink much anymore like I'm. It 518 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't make me feel good. It just makes 519 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: me feel much worse than it used to. And the 520 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 1: trade off just isn't the same. You know. It's like 521 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: and I'm sure I don't think I'm this isn't an 522 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: original thing from me. I'm sure there are other people 523 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: who have said this, but you know, the this the 524 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: idea that if someone drank in their thirties the way 525 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: they drink at college, you'd say this person has a problem, 526 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: like this person is an alcoholic, But when someone's twenty one, 527 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: you're like, they're at college. It. I think that any 528 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: of those things, whether it's drinking, whether it's sex, or 529 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: there's certain things that that as people get older they 530 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: realize they start to make distinctions between what is a 531 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: what is a kind of healthy connection to a thing 532 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: that I have and what is me just being this 533 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: sort of pleasure seeking animal that is thinking that true 534 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: satisfaction is on the other side of of this orgasm 535 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: with this person or you know, or this drink or 536 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: this drug or this whatever. And it's I do think 537 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: that people. I see it a lot with people in 538 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: their thirties, that there starts to be a shift where 539 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: they start to think, you know what, this doesn't quite. 540 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: This doesn't work for me the same way it used to. 541 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: And I can't pretend to have a completely in different 542 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: relationship with this thing in the way that I used 543 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: to behavior. And for me, I never used to have it, 544 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Like I never had that chip in me that was 545 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: just like unattached sex is fun for Tanya. But I 546 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: tried to brainwash myself that I had that chip, you know, 547 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm young and this is fun and 548 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm you know, like, once you get married, that's it 549 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: for life, and you know what I mean, Like I 550 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: try to convince myself that I had that chip, and 551 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: I just never did, Like I just it just wasn't 552 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: for me. And so it was like this huge Eureka 553 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: moment of why am I doing this? Yeah, I sort 554 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: of wish people would make more space for for every 555 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, every every side of that, because I neither 556 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: is a bad thing. It's not if someone wants to 557 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: hook up a bunch, that's fine. If someone doesn't. If so, 558 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: if that's not sound, someone's built and they don't see 559 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: the value in that. It shouldn't be any difference to 560 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: someone who's like, I just don't like drinking. You know 561 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: it's not for me. It they should, We should make 562 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: space for all of those different things. I agree Mark 563 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: doesn't drink. I don't. I've never been drunk. But I'm 564 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: nice to have this relevant here. But it's true, it's 565 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: certainly interesting. I'm always interested in those in those I'm 566 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: always interested in those things, whether they've come from a 567 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: religious or a structured place, or whether it's just the 568 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: decision that you made that it was, Yeah, that's exactly 569 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: what it was. It wasn't for me, but it was 570 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: also this thing because I've never tried coffee either. There 571 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: were things that when I was little, we're put into 572 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: a box, the box of that's something adult to do, 573 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: and I never opened that box. I never had like 574 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: the ceremony of that you're an adult now you can 575 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: do all these things that I ruled them out at 576 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: an early age and never even considered them. And that 577 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: includes coffee, cigarettes and alcohol. That is so fascinating. I 578 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: don't I don't have a better explanation than that. And 579 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: my my dad has struggled with alcoholism, but I didn't 580 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: know that until after I had already ruled it out right, 581 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: So it didn't come from a place of I don't 582 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: want to end up that way or anyway. Wow, we'll see. 583 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: I grew up. I grew up in a nightclub. My 584 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: dad was a nightclub owner and I was working in 585 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: there from I don't know. I was twelve thirteen when 586 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I got my first job in there. You could work 587 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: on premises if you were you know, well in England 588 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: at the time. I don't have to have changed, or 589 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: maybe it was just not on the books. I don't know, 590 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: but I um, I was working in there picking up glasses, 591 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I used to I used to just 592 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: see the most terrible things and it really turned me 593 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: off when I was a teenager. For a long time, 594 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: it turned me off alcohol because I just used to 595 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: see the worst things people would do to each other. 596 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: And so that accounted for me for a long time 597 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: for a lack of interest in that. But yeah, it's 598 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: really I find it fascinating how we all come to 599 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: these things and revisit them many times in our lives. 600 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: Another quick one, and I feel like we're going to 601 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: have differing opinions on this. Um. Do you think that 602 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: zodiac compatibility holds much weight? What do you think I 603 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: think about that? You're going to say it's garbage. In 604 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: order to think that zodiac compatibility held any weight, I'd 605 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: have to think that zodiac's in general held any weight, 606 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: and that it wasn't complete, made up hoke um that 607 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: was at a waste of time for anyone to study 608 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: or talk about. What's your sign? You're a Gemini. Of 609 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: course you don't believe in zodiac signs. Of course you 610 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: don't believe in zodiac signs. This makes perfect sense. I 611 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't trust any man who goes on a date 612 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: and asks a woman what her zodiac sign is. It's 613 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: like the first thing I ask if Yeah, no, listen 614 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: of women ask it. Of women ask it, what's your sign? 615 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: And every time I just stopped. I don't even debate 616 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: it anymore. I just I'm like Gemini, and let's just 617 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: do let's just do whatever we need to do here 618 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: to like through this. But if a guy, if a 619 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: guy is on a date and he says, well, your sign, 620 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't trust that guy. Eighties. I'm going to go 621 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: out on them and say, if a man asks you 622 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: what your sign is on a date, you shouldn't try. 623 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: He's got a motive. He's doing that to hear himself 624 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: to you, or to give you the false impression that 625 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: you guys are the same kind of mindset. You're right, 626 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: that's that's exactly right. Now, that's exactly Oh my gosh. Wait, 627 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: there's a couple I know you'll never see. You'll never 628 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: see two men together on a hike, two pals and 629 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: one of them says something and the other guy looks 630 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: at him and says, your sign. You'll never see that 631 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: between two guys. It doesn't happen. And yet it's like 632 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: the first question that anybody will like if I ever 633 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: went on a date, it was like, what's his sign? 634 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: Why do you think women are eminently more interested in 635 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: signs than I don't know, honestly, I don't know. I 636 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: just I don't know why. But I and you're just 637 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: like such a gemini can't even get over it. It's like, 638 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. If he lied to you and said 639 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: he's a scorpio, you'd probably have the same reaction. Oh 640 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: for sure, you'd find them. You'd find a way to 641 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: make any of them work. That's the whole point the 642 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: I think here he look, let me answer that question. 643 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: The reason I believe that people look for People need heuristics, 644 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: They need they need structure in their lives somehow, they 645 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: need things that make the world makes sense. And the 646 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: idea that we are seven billion people and you know 647 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: it's like the one, right, the one? Does the one exist? 648 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: Of course, the one doesn't exist. You know, the idea 649 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: that you're gonna meet the like there's gonna be one 650 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: person in seven billion people that like, how it's not absurd. 651 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: We all have our one, Tanya, What do you think 652 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 1: happens when someone says, I, like, I met the one 653 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: at college and you're like, so, let me get this straight. 654 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: Probability wise, out of seven billion people, the one for 655 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: you happened not only to go to your college. What 656 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: are the chances What are the chances in seven billion 657 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: people that the one for you went to your college 658 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: and took your class and happened to sit next to you. 659 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: Isn't that the most beautiful thing. It's the most impossible thing. 660 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: And on top of that, happens to be a similar 661 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: age to you. It happens to be the gender you're 662 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: attracted to. Like, it's a lot of Yeah, it wasn't 663 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: a ninety year old Japanese woman, right. I mean, I 664 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: am upset right now. But people people don't like chaos, 665 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: They are not comfortable with chaos, so they need for 666 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: there to be a one. They need for there to 667 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: be a certain number of people that are compatible with 668 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: them based on their signs, so that they can narrow 669 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: it down in some way, and everything has Can I 670 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: tell you something, I although I do believe in the 671 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: one I'm a I'm a cancer and I'm like such 672 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: a cancer, Like you don't get more like cancer than me, 673 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: for sure. Um, But I agree with you in the 674 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: sense that I've been reading a lot of books the 675 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: last two weeks, and the through line that these people 676 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: are saying the key to happiness is like we try 677 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: like life is unpredictable and uncontrollable, period and are we 678 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: all try to control every situation, every single thing of 679 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: our day. We structure our days, we make plans, we 680 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: do this, and in reality, like you can't control any 681 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: of it. And so this guy, I he just like 682 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: it like totally blew me away because he was just like, 683 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: if you can unlock this this ability to try and 684 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: control everything and just live in the moment and just 685 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: be happy with what's going on, the freedom that you're 686 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: going to live with is immeasurable. Like you're just going 687 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: to be such a happier version of yourself. And so 688 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa talking to the girl who tries 689 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: to like literally put everything into a box. Yes, yeah, 690 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: but you know you yes, But the truth is your 691 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: your desire to control things has also probably been responsible 692 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: for a lot of your success. Like you you you know, 693 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: you go into a certain world and you master that 694 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: world and you learn about it and you you get 695 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: very proactive about it, and you know it's what's made you, 696 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: you know you, And I I've like it's been so 697 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: fun to watch from the sidelines as you just keep 698 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: going and going and going with your success and how 699 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: many people know you and you're hosting and your ability 700 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: like that. You know, I didn't even meet you twenty 701 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: years ago, where you were there, but I met you 702 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: seven eight years ago and saw then and like, see 703 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: the progression and part of that I think you know, 704 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: the control freak urging us can Actually it's difficult because 705 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: it can be responsible for an awful lot. I think 706 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: that the key is in knowing when to switch it 707 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: off and when to say, well, I've done, I've done 708 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: as much as I can here. Now I need to 709 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: not blame it on the fact that he's a scorpio. 710 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: So true. By the way, thank you for saying that 711 00:41:48,160 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: was really really sweet and really really nice. Okay that 712 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: is I mean, there's so many and then then we 713 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: have like more emails for you, So I'm just gonna 714 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: do two more of these quick quick? Do you want 715 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: me to be shorter with my answers? Am I going no, 716 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: this is your time that I don't want to waste, 717 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: I know, but if you're like, oh, we'd rather get 718 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: through like twenty questions, then I'll be more epigrammatical. This 719 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: is when I'm very curious about if you've been on 720 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: and off with somebody in a relationship, do you think 721 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: that that can ultimately work out or should you just 722 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: scrap it and move on to something new? The way 723 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: i'd answer that is the story actually evolving? You know, 724 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: do you just is the do you keep reading the 725 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: same chapter in the book over and over again? If 726 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 1: you do, then put the book down. There's no there's 727 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: nothing more to learn from this. You you you literally 728 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: are rereading the same chapter. The story isn't evolving, it's 729 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: not there's not new territory you're forging here. You have 730 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: to be really honest about that. If if someone leaves 731 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: and comes back, and then you say, Okay, I'm gonna 732 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: give this a chance, that like, that's the decision I'm 733 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: going to make. Let's see, let's see, I'm gonna give 734 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt. I'm going to explain 735 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: to them that, you know, I'm fragile from last time 736 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: because this is what they did last time, and I'm 737 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: working through those feelings, but I'm going to give this 738 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: a shot because I believe that it's worth something. Then 739 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: if it happens again, you have to say, okay, well, 740 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: now we're into a cycle of a sort and that 741 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: at this stage this is true information. And if the 742 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: story isn't evolving, and if I have zero reason to 743 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: believe anything is different this time around, then why would 744 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: I keep investing in this story as if it's gonna evolve. Um, So, 745 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: I think when something is on and off, you have 746 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: to be very very aware of the fact that you 747 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: are that if this you know, I see a story 748 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: that's not evolving. As a period, it's done and everyone 749 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: else out there is a question mark. People like, oh, 750 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: but you know, we have such a great connection. Whatever, 751 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter their period. They're not question mark anymore. 752 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: Every other human being in the world has more potential 753 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: than this person does, even when when you even though 754 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: you don't have a connection with any of them, they 755 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: all have more potential than this person who you have 756 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 1: such a great connection with. But there a period, not 757 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: a question mark anymore. I'm gonna toss it to Mark 758 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: for another email after that, because that was a great answer. 759 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: It's a quickie that I noticed because I think we've 760 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: all been in this situation. Is too much intensity in 761 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: the beginning of a relationship a bad sign? Well, here's 762 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: what you have to be wary of. Unearned passion. If 763 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: someone comes to me. If I'm hiring someone for a 764 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: position in my company and come to me and in 765 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: the interview they say I will move heaven and earth 766 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: for your company. You have no idea. I want this 767 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: job more than anything in the world. I'll work night 768 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: and day. I'll do this fine, it's that sounds great, 769 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: That sounds great. I want to know, firstly, can you 770 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: do the job? Do you have the skills necessary? So 771 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that amongst all of that passion, 772 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: I actually and am vetting for the right skills and 773 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: the right values. Right passion can't make up for lack 774 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: of competence and lack of values. But I'm also going 775 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 1: to take everything they're saying right now with a huge, 776 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: huge dose of salt, because none of this is is proven, 777 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: and in some ways it's not even earned. Because they 778 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 1: they may be so excited to work for my company 779 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: because they've seen YouTube videos of me, and they're like, 780 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: this is going to be the greatest job in the world, 781 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: but they don't know that they they're going to get 782 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: inside the company and realize it's still a job, and 783 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: it's still really hard. And even though what I do 784 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: we make a genuine impact in the world, that it's 785 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: really hard work making that impact. And so I'm always 786 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: very measured with how I see someone's passion in the 787 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: early stage, and I think people need to be on 788 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: a date two. If someone's writing you poetry after day one, um, 789 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: that's okay. You can enjoy it. Enjoy the poetry, but 790 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 1: it's not. Don't treat it as as this is earned yet, 791 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: because it's not. This person at best is writing that 792 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: poetry based on their idea of you. There's certainly not 793 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: doing it based on how well they truly know you, 794 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: and they haven't shown you yet how they'll be in 795 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,919 Speaker 1: week three or four in a relationship. That's what I'm 796 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: really interested in, is who someone going to be a 797 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: month one or month three or month six. That's when 798 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: you know. So enjoy passion, but keep it in its 799 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: proper place. It's not a sign of what's to come. Um, 800 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: it's just at that stage energy. All right, Let's go 801 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: to this one from Kaylee. She says, I've been dating 802 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: my partner three and a half years now. I've never 803 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: been crazy sexually attracted to him. I do love him, 804 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: I care him a lot, but he's let himself go 805 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and I don't find him sexy. 806 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 1: He refuses to go to the dentist or the doctor, 807 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: and I'm finding that as a major turn off. Is 808 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: they're a way to make this relationship work. I'm really 809 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: struggling and don't want to throw away all of our 810 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: years just for sexual attraction. Yeah, well, she I would 811 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: amend the final part of that question where she says 812 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: just for sexual attraction. The just there is a problem 813 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: because that's she's lying to herself. I wouldn't be asking 814 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: this question if sexual attray action was something that could be, 815 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, shuffled into the corner as just sexual attraction. 816 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: It's clearly a big deal to her, which is why 817 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: she's asking. So then you have to say, Okay, this 818 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: is a big deal to me and it is threatening 819 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: my relationship, which is why I'm asking this question. Therefore, 820 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: what do I need to do in order to repair 821 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: this part of my relationship? Will firstly, let me make 822 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: sure that I am doing the thing. And this isn't 823 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: my way of putting it straight back on her, but 824 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: in any situation in our relationship, we have to start 825 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: from a place of saying, am I actually doing the 826 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: thing myself that I'm asking for? Am I taking care 827 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: of myself? Am I doing the things that I should 828 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: be doing? To make sure that I'm upholding my end 829 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: of the bargain we're supposed to be made. We you know, 830 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: we both have a responsibility to look after ourselves for 831 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: each other. Am I upholding my end? If I am? Great? 832 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about him. Um, that's a conversation that 833 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: has to be had. Compare a stunately and kindly, but 834 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: in a serious way, where it's said, I love you 835 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: and I want us to have an amazing sex life. 836 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: I want us to have an amazing attraction. But I 837 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: know that it affects me when you're not taking care 838 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: of yourself and I see ways that you're not taking 839 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: care of yourself, um, and I want to find out 840 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: why that is and what we can do about it, 841 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: because this part of the relationship is deeply important to me. Um, 842 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: So what do we need to do? You know, how 843 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: do we how do we get these what can I 844 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: do to help? And how do we get these parts 845 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 1: of of your life on track so that we can 846 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: get our relationship to the level that it can be. 847 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: Because I don't know about you, but I don't want 848 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 1: to be I don't want to have an average connection 849 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: to you. I want to have a beautiful connection to 850 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: you and what we have and and see what that 851 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: person says. What I would be looking for is is 852 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: this person willing to fight for the relationship in that way? 853 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: Is this something they actually want to do. They may 854 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: be scared that. There's certain aspects of what you're asking for, like, 855 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: for example, when someone's out of shape, getting in shape 856 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: is hard. Is that's not easy? Going to the doctors 857 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: is booking an appointment? And if someone won't go to 858 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: the if someone won't go to the dentist, then that's 859 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 1: that's something you have to be really honest with someone 860 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: about and say, listen, I don't like you, know you 861 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: you have something with your teeth or your breath or whatever. 862 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't like that, and I want to kiss you. 863 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: But this is this is actually a problem for me. 864 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: I will book the appointment, but you need to do this. 865 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: And if you don't do this, it's bigger than the dentist. 866 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: It says something about how much you care about my 867 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 1: attraction for you, and that's a bigger thing in our relationship. 868 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: Going going to the gym and getting fit is harder, 869 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: and that sometimes requires support and team work. But but 870 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for is this person actually willing to 871 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: show up for the relationship and it's not talked about enough, 872 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's shoved under the carpet, like it's 873 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: just oh well, people struggle and whatever. But we we 874 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, when we're in a relationship with part of 875 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: a team, and we owe it to our partner to 876 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: bring our best to the table. I've always said that 877 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: young men in relationships are a problem for two reasons. 878 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: One is that they before you came along, and they 879 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: were single and doing whatever they wanted. Their life was 880 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: pretty much drinking, porn and video games. That combined with 881 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: the fact that their mother has told them their whole 882 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: lives that they are an amazing, greatest, perfect person in 883 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: the world. And that's a tough combo because when they 884 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: start dating you and you start pointing out to them 885 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: ways that they maybe aren't the most perfect person in 886 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: the world, they're going to push back at that because 887 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: it affects their whole world view that they've been told 888 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: their whole life. He's eating like crap, he's not cleaning 889 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: his teeth, but he thinks he's awesome, and you better 890 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: accept me how I am because I am awesome. And 891 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: that's where we run into trouble. You gotta want to 892 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: change that. Maybe change is the wrong word. You gotta 893 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: want to improve yourself to be the best person you 894 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 1: can be for that other person. You you do. And 895 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 1: but but you know, we we ourselves have to decide 896 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: the standard that we want from our relationship and be 897 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: willing to communicate that standard when it's uncomfortable. And what 898 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: happens is because it's uncomfortable for us. And I've fallen 899 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: into this trap many times in many parts of life. 900 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got you know, there's been many times 901 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: in my business where remember, staff did something and I 902 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: didn't like it. I thought I mentioned that later, and 903 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 1: then I don't do it. And when I don't mention it, 904 00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: I've approved it. And that happens in my relationships all 905 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: the time. You didn't mention something, you didn't talk about that, 906 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: you just approved that behavior. You just green lit that behavior. 907 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: And it's very difficult to change those things. Like it's funny, 908 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: is so I'm like, you know, obviously and one of 909 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: those people I like setting goals and intentions and obviously 910 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: like I make my vision border I'm very because I'm 911 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: so um self. Growth is so important to me that 912 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: I took that into my relationship and I was like, 913 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: I want this relationship to have So I created like 914 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: like our four pillars of you know what it was 915 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: Everything comes down to respect, love, lust, and trust. Those 916 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: four things always have to have them. And then like 917 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: I created like, um, almost like a ten commandments like 918 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 1: of that relationship of what you know, we want to 919 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: hold each other accountable to and dad da da, And 920 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: I do think as silly as it sounds like, and 921 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 1: and when I say these things for people to do, 922 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,479 Speaker 1: there is this level of like accountability in you wanting 923 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: to be the best version of yourself, you wanting to 924 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: hold your partner accountable to that, but then also you 925 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: wanting to hold your relationship accountable to that as well, 926 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that as time goes on, 927 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: it's important to kind of have those things that always 928 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: kind of bring you back to we're in this together, 929 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: we're growing together. This is what we want, yeah, yeah, 930 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: and this is what we want. Part is really important 931 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: because that's that's actually what removes ego. If you can 932 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: say this is the vision for our relationship, this is 933 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: the higher idea that we're working towards together. Um, then 934 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: everything is in service of of that vision of that relationship, 935 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: and it's no longer about who's right or wrong. It's 936 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,320 Speaker 1: about is what we're doing here good for that vision 937 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: or is it bad for that vision? And that that's 938 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: super important. I think guys sometimes need to hear it 939 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: from more than one woman. They need to have a 940 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 1: couple of different relationships collapse before they start to realize 941 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: that they could actually work on themselves a little bit. Well, 942 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: you know how you see these these talk shows and 943 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: they whether it's it could be a talk show, and 944 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: they wheel people out who have been together forever and 945 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: they hold them up as some kind of like, you know, 946 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: these two people have been together for twenty five years 947 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: and everyone collaps, and that's supposed to be the most 948 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: amazing thing. It just it always means nothing to me. 949 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't I don't instantly have respect for a relationship 950 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: because it's gone on for a long time. I always 951 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: look at that, and because I know too many relationships 952 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: in my own life where two people are too like. 953 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: I have some relationships very close to me that I'm like, well, 954 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: those two people are in a relationship because he walks 955 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: all over her whole life and she's okay, with it, 956 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: she accepts it. I know a particular relationship where the 957 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: guy I hated like any time she was out of sight, 958 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: anytime she went and did her own thing, he hated it, 959 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: like he just couldn't bury. He was territorial, he was jealous, 960 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: he was all about himself. She always had to be 961 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: serving him in some way, so much so that she 962 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: went away for three days to New York for an 963 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: occasion that was really important to her, a family occasion. 964 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: This was after they've already been together for years in 965 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: a marriage, and she never went away, and he made 966 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: her life hell over it. I mean, he complained and 967 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 1: complained and complained the whole time she was gone, ruined 968 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: the trip for her. And I look at that, and 969 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, this woman is in jail. She is in jail, 970 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: But what's happening here? You have? This takes two sick people. 971 00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: This takes a man who's who's not well, who's sationally 972 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: got all sorts of issues, and it takes a woman 973 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: who's got all sorts of issues. That's the only way 974 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: this dysfunctional relationship functions. So and those two people were 975 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: together for decades, so if someone wheeled them out on TV, 976 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,479 Speaker 1: for me and went, well, Matthew, we've got these people, 977 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: they've been together for thirty years. We're going to learn 978 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: their secret today. I'd be like, I don't want to 979 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: know the secret. This is, this is not. This doesn't 980 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: make it impressive. The fact that they've endured hell for 981 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: longer than i'd be with it's so true. I think, Um, 982 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing, like I said, again, a 983 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: lot of self reflection. And for me, I always said 984 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: that it was a desire of my heart to be 985 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: married and have a family. That was always just kind 986 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: of it's such a desire of my heart to be 987 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: married and have a family. I really started to dissect 988 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: that because it's not about being married. So like for 989 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people, I think that's where the mistake happens. 990 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: It's like marriage equals lifelong happiness, when in reality, what 991 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: I want is a lifelong partner. Want to I do 992 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: want to do life with somebody like I want that 993 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: to do life with somebody one person. Um, it's not 994 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: necessarily marriage, but I want that person to bring up 995 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: the best in me and I want to keep growing 996 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: with that person. So it's like it's almost like we 997 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: tell ourselves these things like I. I did it for years. 998 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: That's what I desired my marriage, family, marriage, family. It's 999 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: not necessarily marriage because I don't necessary I don't just 1000 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: want marriage. If I want to just marriage, I would 1001 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: have married a guy I dated six years ago. You know. Um, 1002 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: it's about the person and really like being super superintentional 1003 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: of a lifelong partner. And I think that's where we 1004 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: kind of get like mixed up. Yeah. Yeah, I think 1005 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: people have to be really really honest with themselves about 1006 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: what it is they're looking for. And I you look 1007 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: telling you know this I dealt with over the last 1008 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: over the last decade, I've had literally millions of women 1009 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: that that we've worked with, and the YouTube videos alone, 1010 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,959 Speaker 1: I've got four million views and it in all of that, 1011 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: what I've seen over and over again is people not 1012 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: necessarily being honest with themselves about what they want. And 1013 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: I've dealt with, For example, I have I meet women 1014 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: at every stage, and some of those women maybe are 1015 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: in their thirties and are looking for a family, some 1016 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: not all, but some, and some are beyond that point 1017 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: now biologically where they can't have their own biological children 1018 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: and are in the grieving process of that I see 1019 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: the entire spectrum, and and so often when I'm talking 1020 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: to women about that issue, which is of course highly 1021 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 1: highly sensitive for people. One of the things I'm always 1022 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: curious about is what is the thing you really want? 1023 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: It is the thing you do? You really want children? 1024 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: In which case let's talk about that. Do you really 1025 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: want a guy? In which case let's talk about that. 1026 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Do you really want, uh, you know, a marriage and children? 1027 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: And the only way you want children is if you 1028 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: have that version of it. If so, let's talk about that. 1029 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: But are making those distinctions is actually very very important 1030 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: because it will affect your decisions at certain point. If 1031 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: you say, oh, when I really dig deep, I realized 1032 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: that if waiting for the perfect blueprint of this will 1033 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: cost me my chance at having children, then a certain point, 1034 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: I actually just want to have children. I don't want 1035 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: to wait for the version of it that I've always 1036 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: told myself I need to have. Other people, when they 1037 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: get honest, they say no, if it's not with someone 1038 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: that I am deeply in love with, I don't want it, 1039 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: in which case you have to be honest and say 1040 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't want children as much as I want that 1041 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: idea of it and I think that it's because we've 1042 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: just I can say it, as women, we have this 1043 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: kind of um, it's just kind of ingrained in us 1044 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: that you go to school, you get married, you have 1045 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: a family. That's just kind of like how it's been, 1046 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, like we've evolved so much. But it's like 1047 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I think we forget back then. Back in the day, 1048 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: women couldn't buy a home without having a man signed 1049 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the lease. Like women couldn't open their own credit cards 1050 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: without having a man. So it's like women, we couldn't 1051 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: do these things unless we were married and had a man. 1052 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: But it's like that's not the case anymore. It's actually 1053 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: the farthest thing from the from the case now. And 1054 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: I think it's like we're starting to have this kind 1055 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: of mental shift of I don't need to have like 1056 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: we don't need to have a man to do anything, 1057 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: but we want a life partner to build memories with, 1058 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: build a home with, start trap asitions with, you know 1059 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I think that's it's like getting 1060 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: getting rid of the what I need and versus and 1061 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: like figuring out what you want. Yeah, but that and 1062 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 1: that's such a wonderfully, wonderfully articulated distinction that is exactly 1063 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: what it is. I wish, I truly wish more people 1064 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: could uncouple and and disentangle those things that they think 1065 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: they need from those wants, because it's I see it. 1066 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about it, because I see I'm firsthand in 1067 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: the trenches with people who ruin their lives over not 1068 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 1: making that distinction, who always stay with someone that does 1069 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: not deserve them, that they should not be with, that 1070 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: they waste their lives with because they think that they 1071 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: need that person in order to to do something. And 1072 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: this isn't something I don't speak about this, and I'm 1073 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 1: not coming from this place as a you know, like 1074 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 1: for me as a man, I seek to understand as 1075 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: much as I can. But I talk to these unbelievably 1076 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: powerful women like my publisher Karen Ronaldi, you know, one 1077 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: of the most powerful women I know. And we're walking 1078 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: down the street and I said, what do you think 1079 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: about this thing? I said, you know, my heart aches 1080 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: for women who are waiting for a man to have 1081 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: a family and they're trying to figure out what do 1082 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,959 Speaker 1: I do, And I've just got to wait. And she said, 1083 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: if you want kids, why would you rely on a 1084 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: man for that, And I was like, well, that's interest. 1085 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Like that's not said very often, you know. She was like, 1086 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: but what if it's that important to you, why would 1087 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: you rely? Why would you give that power to somebody 1088 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: else over something that is a goal that that will 1089 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: make you incredibly happy if it happens and deeply unhappy 1090 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen. Why would you abdicate responsibility for 1091 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: that to some person that you haven't even met yet? 1092 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: That my now, I know that. It's all. It's all 1093 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: like you weigh up, right, depending on where you are 1094 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: in your life, you weigh up. Am I at the 1095 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: stage where I need to stop considering a different path? 1096 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: You know? Or am I good for now? And I'm 1097 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: just gonna that's fine. Everyone can make their own mind 1098 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: up about what's what's proved, like you know, checking out 1099 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: on things, checking on things and making sure you know, 1100 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: like I just want got my eggs checked and like 1101 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm fertile, myrtle, like I'm chilling. So like that takes 1102 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: that part, you know, like I'm not worried about that. 1103 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: But so I think being educated and like being proactive 1104 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: in that sense is super smart. But I agree, I 1105 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: just wish. I wish more people would ask themselves and 1106 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: other people the difficult questions. One of my girlfriends, um, 1107 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: she's like badass, she has a great career. Um, I 1108 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: think she's thirty four, thirty five, but she does she 1109 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: really wants to have a baby. She wants to have 1110 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: a child. And she has just a lot of friends 1111 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: around that she sees that are married with kids, and 1112 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: they're miserable, like so miserable, and so she was just 1113 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: asking them kind of like what they like, they had 1114 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: different they have such different parenting styles, and so she's 1115 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: just like, if I want a kid, maybe I should 1116 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: just adopt and I can have the parenting style that 1117 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: I want, you know what I mean, Like I have 1118 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: the means, I have the you know like, and I 1119 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: can adopt and do something good and then have a 1120 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: child and raise the child how I want to raise 1121 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: the child. And I was just like, this is it. 1122 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 1: That's that's exactly right. That's exactly everyone. Listen. We do 1123 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: live in a world right now where people can carve 1124 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: the path that's right for them, Like, it's your My 1125 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: boxing trainer always says to me, it's your you know, 1126 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: when I always boxing and trying to like a box 1127 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: for over ten years, and I any time I try 1128 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: and focus so much on technique to the point of 1129 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I lose my rhythm. He's like, Matt's your punch like 1130 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: it's yours. You can't throw it wrong. It's yours, like 1131 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: your pickle, yes, your life like you can't you can't 1132 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 1: do it wrong. It's yours. And you have to figure 1133 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: out what that path is for you and not you 1134 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: know what society think of this, and that society gets 1135 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: the most basic things wrong all the time. Like it's 1136 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: society cannot be relied upon and historically has not been 1137 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: able to be relied upon to get even the most 1138 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: basic things right, things that a child knows to be true, 1139 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: society has gotten wrong. So what you're going to trust 1140 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: society on the nuance of your love life? On where 1141 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: you should be right now? And it's honestly, it's again, 1142 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: it's it's the thing we all do. It's a thing 1143 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 1: like we all will full prey to that. I'm in 1144 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: a position where people constantly ask me and my, so, Matt, 1145 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: you single, Well, so if you're single, then what is that? 1146 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about you know, this 1147 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: is not whether I'm in a relationship or not. I 1148 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: don't care about giving people that answer because it's not 1149 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: interesting to me. If I'm single, it doesn't mean I'm 1150 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: any less happy or accomplished. And I don't want the respect. 1151 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't want respect that comes from being in a relationship. 1152 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't want you if your respect goes up for 1153 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 1: me because I'm in a relationship, I don't want that respect. 1154 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: That's not interesting to me. Well, I could be at 1155 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 1: home miserable in a relationship, but you respect me more 1156 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: because I post Instagram pictures with a girlfriend. I don't 1157 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: want that respect. I don't care about it. I don't 1158 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 1: value it. So it's, you know, we have to shake 1159 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 1: off that crap. It's it's it really is. It's it 1160 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: only weighs you down, and no one like life's gonna 1161 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: be over and no one's gonna care. It's that. It's 1162 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 1: this stuff we torture ourselves with while we're here and 1163 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: m and I see women do it all the time, 1164 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: And I see women get it from other women. I 1165 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: see it get I see women get it from their 1166 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: grandmother's at the dinner table. I see them get it 1167 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: from their mom's. I see them get it from their friends. 1168 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I see him get it from like constant pressure and 1169 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 1: from people who aren't even happy, many of them from 1170 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 1: people who aren't happy with having made the exact decision 1171 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: that they're pressuring her to make. It's literally so true, 1172 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: so true. Pick your path, You pick your own path, 1173 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: figure it out, and and you know and trust trust 1174 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 1: that if you if you just left the relationship because 1175 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 1: it wasn't working for you, you won. You won. If 1176 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: you're still single because you didn't settle for the last 1177 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 1: guy that came along who would have made you deeply 1178 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: unhappy in the long run, but would have made your 1179 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: grandma really happy, you won. You won. And like I 1180 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 1: say to people all the time, I am just as 1181 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: happy with the breakups have been responsible for in my 1182 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: coaching as the relationships have been responsible for m HM. 1183 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: People think that when I'm I walked down the street 1184 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 1: in New York and a woman comes up to me, 1185 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: which happens all the time, someone come up to me 1186 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 1: and said, I'm married because of you. I'm with my 1187 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 1: long term partner because of what you taught me. People 1188 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: like Matt, that must be the most amazing moment in 1189 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: the world. It's just as thrilling to me when someone 1190 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 1: comes up to me in the street and says, I 1191 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: was with a toxic person and because of you, I'm 1192 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: no longer with that person. That's just I saved that 1193 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,559 Speaker 1: person's life. I mean, they saved their life because they 1194 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: had the guts to make the decision. But I've got 1195 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of that. That's life saving when 1196 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,679 Speaker 1: someone decides not to be with the wrong person anymore. 1197 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,719 Speaker 1: Um So, I I just think we have this really 1198 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: juvenile version of of what success is. Success can be leaving, 1199 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,320 Speaker 1: success can be being on your own right now. Success 1200 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: can be working on yourself. You know, it's it's not 1201 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: it's not the it's not the version were being presented 1202 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: with on Instagram, which is Partners, perfect Partners and diamond 1203 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: watches and whatever other nonsense people constantly. I just have 1204 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: to say thank you seriously so much because I feel 1205 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 1: like this was such a great way to kick off 1206 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 1: for the podcast, because, um, I have kind of been 1207 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: going through a really rough last two weeks and I 1208 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to get into it today because I'm still 1209 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: not able to really like talk without getting emotional about it. So, um, 1210 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 1: it was nice to have you and like I just 1211 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: feel like you always give me this kind of resurgence 1212 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 1: of exactly like what I need and especially like when 1213 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I need it, and I really needed this today, So 1214 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: thank you, UM. And then I want I want you 1215 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: to tell everybody I know that you have some video 1216 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 1: um that people are videos that people can help unlock 1217 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 1: their confidence. Right, Yeah, there's there's for anyone who who decides, 1218 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: you know what. I really want to take what I've 1219 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 1: learned from this podcast and work on myself. And you know, 1220 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,759 Speaker 1: I think any work you do to build the asset 1221 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 1: that is you is going to pay dividends forever. And 1222 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I have a training that can help people do that 1223 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: because it's all about how to be the most confident 1224 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,759 Speaker 1: version of yourself. And I break down what I've learned 1225 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: are the three layers of confidence in a very easy 1226 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: to learn structure that once people hear this, they'll realize 1227 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: I've never I've never thought of confidence that way before, 1228 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: and it's never been so practical to be confident. So 1229 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: that's a Get core confidence dot com. They can go 1230 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 1: there and you'll be watching it within sixty seconds of 1231 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 1: hearing my voice now, So it's Get Core Confident. Put 1232 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: that website. Get core confidence dot Com. I'll put it 1233 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: in our Facebook group, so anybody listening that wants to 1234 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: check it out can just click there. Because I feel 1235 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 1: like a lot of the questions that we did get 1236 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: free that we obviously didn't get to, but a lot 1237 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: of them have to do with confidence in dating and insecurities, 1238 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: and so I think that's a really great place for 1239 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 1: people to go, um to get your advice in that 1240 01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: in that direction. So thank you so much. Is there, 1241 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 1: I'm always know I could be here for hours with you. Literally, 1242 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I can't believe how fast that went. 1243 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,640 Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, I don't want to wrap, I 1244 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 1: don't I mean, looking like, can we have your back? 1245 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Could easily do a seven hour podcast with Matthew and 1246 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: it would fly by, fly by. Thanks Mark, I know, 1247 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: I was. I genuinely have so loved this and you're 1248 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: so I mean Mark, it was also just a treat 1249 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: to have you on here as well. That was really 1250 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,240 Speaker 1: that was super fun man, and you like you're both 1251 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,679 Speaker 1: so you're both so real. I mean this, your audience 1252 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: is lucky to have you, because there's not there aren't 1253 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: that many places where people are just very very you know, 1254 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: successful people are very very honest about their shortcomings and 1255 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 1: what they're struggling with. We have a lot of fake 1256 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: vulnerability out there, but not an awful lot of real vulnerability, 1257 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,919 Speaker 1: and I think that's what makes us feel less alone 1258 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: in the world. I think we're very lonely, and we're 1259 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 1: lonely because we think we're the only ones suffering with 1260 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,679 Speaker 1: what we're suffering with. I always think the greatest gift 1261 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: you can give someone is just let them know you're 1262 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: screw up to but also that yours but you're still 1263 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: able to achieve in spite of that, and that's that's 1264 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 1: just the most beautiful thing in the world. So I 1265 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: appreciate and applaud what you're doing. Thank you, I always 1266 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 1: say too. I'm like, I will. I feel like I'm 1267 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: like the vagina Queen, Like i will just talk about 1268 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: everything and anything that has to do with the vagina 1269 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: and periods because as women, we like we have them, 1270 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: and nobody talks about it and we all have the 1271 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: same issues and like nobody, so I feel like I'm 1272 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: just bombarded with messages of just like everything that has 1273 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: to do with the vagina. So I'm like, I will 1274 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 1: keep talking about the vagina and periods and show you 1275 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 1: how to use your Diva cup all day until I'm 1276 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 1: do you know what's so beautiful about that is that 1277 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:01,719 Speaker 1: it's again, It's like, the more the more I've looked 1278 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: for the real in in in life and the world, 1279 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 1: the more I realized that you think everything is being 1280 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 1: talked about because everyone's talking, you know what I mean? 1281 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,639 Speaker 1: You think because the world, because there's so many people 1282 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: on social media, and because there's so many podcasts, and 1283 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: because there's so many you think everything must be being 1284 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 1: talked about. And then you realize there are certain things 1285 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 1: that no one is really talking about, not with any 1286 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 1: true not with the authenticity and bravery, And there are 1287 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,639 Speaker 1: certain things that everyone tiptoes around, and when someone steps 1288 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 1: in bravely and does that, it's it is to be commended. 1289 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: So I'm sure you've made a lot of people feel 1290 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: much more free and um and less alone from talking 1291 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 1: about those things. Just from a quick just on a 1292 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 1: quick male perspective, where do you land on period sex? 1293 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with period sex. I say 1294 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: that too. I don't know, I certainly don't have a 1295 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: problem with period sex. Great, Yeah, what's the general answer 1296 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: you get on that well. A lot of women are 1297 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 1: really insecure about it. They like don't want to have 1298 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 1: sex on their period, and it's like always this thing, 1299 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,600 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it is what it is. We 1300 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 1: get our periods. Yeah, I can understand. I mean, it's 1301 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I suppose it's like anything, isn't it. It's when you 1302 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: when you feel like you're not totally like yourself. It's 1303 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 1: it's anything. There's like one day on my period that 1304 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it because I just feel 1305 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 1: like my boobs her and I feel bloated. But other 1306 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: than that, like I feel great. So it's like I 1307 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 1: always think so so much of it's really interesting because 1308 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 1: it's we whatever. We you know, we we find a 1309 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: way to just transmit our if we think something's gross, 1310 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 1: we're sending someone else the message that it's gross. And 1311 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 1: now even if they didn't think it was gross, they're going, 1312 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,600 Speaker 1: is it gross? You know, like, if something's not for you, 1313 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 1: if you're like, if you take it in your stride 1314 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm not like, I still I'm horning 1315 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,599 Speaker 1: for you. I still want to be with you right now. 1316 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 1: I still like then people often take their cue from us, 1317 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's the only thing I can add 1318 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 1: on that subject from the other side, because it's certainly 1319 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 1: not a lot I can add on periods, but I 1320 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: but from the other side, I can say that, you know, 1321 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 1: if you're ever worried about that, do realize that people 1322 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 1: generally take their cue from you. What what you make 1323 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,200 Speaker 1: a big deal out of You're sending the message to 1324 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 1: somebody else that it's a big deal. If it's don't 1325 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: make a big deal out of it. Um, then you 1326 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 1: know you're saying you're telling someone else to relax to 1327 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,160 Speaker 1: subcond You know, subconsciously, that's what you're communicating that you 1328 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,519 Speaker 1: have some you have some leverage over the way people 1329 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,600 Speaker 1: react to that. True. Um, Okay, So I'm gonna let 1330 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 1: you go. I'm gonna it feels like an appropriate place 1331 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,600 Speaker 1: to wrap period sex. It's where we always where we 1332 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: always like to end the podcast. So thank you, thank 1333 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 1: you so much. Please come back. I'm going to reach out. 1334 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: We need to have you back, especially when beck is here, 1335 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 1: because she's gonna be she's gonna be really sad that 1336 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,680 Speaker 1: she missed you. So won't make that happen. I'd love to, 1337 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: and I wish her and her family the best as well, 1338 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Love you, Love you too, M.