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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and uh, well, some things happened to

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Speaker 1: me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Things are happening as we speak, too, and it's been

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Speaker 2: crazy a couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, things are happening quickly around the league here as

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Speaker 1: teams are agreeing agreeing to deals, not signing exact exactly,

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Speaker 1: they're agreeing to deals with players.

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Speaker 2: We've seen things fall through in the past. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that can happen. That failed physical or something like that

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Speaker 2: could happen as well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, or somebody, because that was the one thing. It

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Speaker 1: was the uh the the one year Baltimore signed a

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Speaker 1: receiver from somebody or agreed in this in this period.

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Speaker 1: And then so that was when the forty nine ers released.

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Speaker 1: They released to watch this crab Tree they released. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was okay, and Baltimore said, wait a second, I

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Speaker 1: think this guy failed the physical. We're going to sign

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Speaker 1: Crabtree instead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't happen. There's been a couple of things

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Speaker 2: like that, like what then we think Tyson and Lulilou

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Speaker 2: was going back to Jacksonville a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Because of COVID he couldn't get in to sign the contract. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, Cam Heyward talked to them back in

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Speaker 1: coming in the back.

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Speaker 2: Of the Steelers. So these aren't done deals, but ninety

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Speaker 2: eight percent of them go through. Yeah, you know right,

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Speaker 2: the stuff is being reported is it's not like it's

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Speaker 2: not agreed upon, it's just not signed yet.

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Speaker 1: So Russell Wilson, yeah, tweets out or puts out on

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Speaker 1: social media late last night, very late last night, that

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Speaker 1: he has decided to join the Steelers. We assume that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a one year deal. Nobody knows for nobody,

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Speaker 1: nobody knows the real numbers yet or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: They're just supposing that, well, it's a one year deal

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Speaker 1: at one point two million dollars because that was the

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Speaker 1: minimum that you could pay. We don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: the case.

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Speaker 2: We don't know that that's going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we talked a lot about it on Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked about a bunch and you could see both

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Speaker 1: sides of this whole thing. No question, you get you

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Speaker 1: get a how about this? I looked this up today.

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Speaker 1: Current starting quarterbacks in the NFL, Guys who are who

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Speaker 1: were in the NFL last year who's started. Okay, how

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Speaker 1: many of them do you think are Super Bowl winners?

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Speaker 2: Very few? Mahomes, Hurts, Wilson, maybe two more Rogers. I'm

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Speaker 2: running out of names pretty quick. Hurt Scott one, right, yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get one. No, I guess he didn't.

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Speaker 1: That would have been he got there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I didn't.

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Speaker 1: There's five.

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Speaker 2: There's five total, and that includes Flat and he's got

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Speaker 2: one right right, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And Wilson, Russell Wilson is one.

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Speaker 2: Of those Russell's. We're not counting like Garoppolo behind Brady.

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Speaker 1: No, if you were a back Yeah, guy who started

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: There's five. It's a dwindling uh, because Brady had a

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Speaker 1: Mahomes has monopolized of late. Yeah, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: not that many that have done it, and so you

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Speaker 1: get an opportunity here to get a guy he's also

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Speaker 1: nine and seven in his career in the playoffs. Is

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Speaker 1: winning record in the playoffs. I mean, there aren't many

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Speaker 1: guys that have done that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year too.

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Speaker 2: Two of them.

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Speaker 1: You have two of those, and you get him really

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Speaker 1: at no cost.

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Speaker 2: That's The thing is, the risk is none. I mean, frankly,

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Speaker 2: you could disagree with him and cut him in camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't hurt you one bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you could you could get him into

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Speaker 1: OTA's and decide this isn't.

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Speaker 2: Don't want them gone. I mean there's no risk whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: So that part is super attractive. I've done more homework

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Speaker 2: there's some of the same. Wartz keep showing up too,

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Speaker 2: there's no question about that. But he completes a lot

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Speaker 2: of passes, and he throws a lot of touchdowns. I

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Speaker 2: mean he was on pace for like thirty touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 2: I mean magic steeling, he grew. He's still mobile enough

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Speaker 1: I mean he had he had like three hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty rushing yards last year, and it's.

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Speaker 2: The most he's had or most per game since twenty twenty. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he I don't know the numbers on this,

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Speaker 2: worked for him. Still doesn't throw the middle few much

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Speaker 2: still takes a lot of sacks, but excellent dpasser, really

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Speaker 2: high percentage of the passes in his red zone numbers

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Speaker 2: and his red zone numbers. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of the stuff that Steelers haven't had

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Speaker 2: it doesn't look like that's going to improve unless he

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Speaker 2: changes his stripes or you know, who knows. But at

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Speaker 2: the cost. I kind of thought about this too, Like

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Speaker 2: Mayfield was never leaving the Bucks, right, he wasn't for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers anyways. They weren't in the Cousins deal. He's

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Speaker 2: now a Falcon forty five million dollars forty five million dollars, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and he's coming off a major injury and

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Of the actual available quarterbacks, Wilson

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Speaker 2: might be the best football player right now, including fields.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just who you can you get have to

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's great. I'm just saying that of

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Speaker 2: all the options out there. Who's the best football player

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Speaker 2: for Week one? Right now? It might be Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and so you know, you look at this.

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Speaker 1: I think we all, you know, everybody thought to a

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Speaker 1: without question, right. We didn't know it was going to

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Speaker 2: No, I really expect it to be Tannehill or Rudolph. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I absolutely thought, and.

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Speaker 1: This is a different level of competition. I still believe

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Speaker 2: That's my next question for it.

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Speaker 1: But if I had to guess who the starter was

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Speaker 1: If it had been one of the other two guys,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, I'm just sitting here guessing.

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Speaker 2: In March, I think Russell Wilson would be the Week

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Speaker 2: too would have said, I bet Pikett wins that. Joe, Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good way put it.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, I think what you've done here is

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Speaker 1: really lit a fire. Like if you're Kenny Picket right now,

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Speaker 1: I better pick. I get to I get to really

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Speaker 2: In order to win the job, right. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you'd even win a tie. I mean

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Speaker 1: You know. I was thinking about that, Matt, and to me,

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Speaker 1: if it's a tie, I'd rather go to pick it.

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Speaker 1: I'd go to Picket. If it's close, I'd go to

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Speaker 2: And I got to pick up a fifth year option

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Speaker 2: get seventeen regular season game, you get a full year

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Speaker 2: mean that's how quickly since happened. So if it's close,

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Speaker 2: you want to put him to play, which is actually a.

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Speaker 1: Good if it's close, Because we talked about it last

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Speaker 1: week we said Wilson's like the eighteenth best starter, and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, and I believe that if Picket is close to that,

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Speaker 2: that's better than he took away.

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Speaker 1: He took a big step forward. And that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Now you got they don't want to pick up the

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Speaker 2: fifth year off yet and that Wilson is only a

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Speaker 2: one year deal. Again, you can move on from it

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Speaker 1: But if Wilson's better than that, Let's say Wilson's the

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Speaker 1: fourteenth best quarterback of the league this year. Yeah, now

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Speaker 1: you can sign him after this season's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wonder if he gonna want forty again.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe, maybe he wants Baker Mayfield money. Maybe

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Speaker 1: You cross that bridge when you get there.

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, that'd be a wonderful problem to have

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Speaker 1: much their their salary cap next year they got like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy million dollars.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't have much invested period. Overall, They're in

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Speaker 2: good cap shape overall. Yeah, I mean these are big

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Speaker 2: have I think there'll be a fair amount of design

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Speaker 2: quarterback movement as well as some runs. No matter who

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Speaker 2: one of the things that have been Those are the

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Speaker 2: two problems with Wilson is he will hold the ball

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Speaker 2: too long, and I don't know if he doesn't trust the

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Speaker 2: middle field. But he has a very low percentage of

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing that we do know is that both

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Speaker 1: of these guys value the football.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers' numbers when they don't turn the ball over

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Speaker 1: that they're playing. I think they're like fourteen and five

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Speaker 2: Is it nineteen and five?

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Speaker 2: to you know, it fumbles a little bit, doesn't throw

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Speaker 2: This week, and it is for all these teams.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Minnesota, Maybe Minnesota, and if Fi'll trade with the division.

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Speaker 1: A one year when I ran off for a six

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of wanted him to land somewhere like Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: he's a good preseason. Somebody gets hurt and move him

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Speaker 2: Again, I.

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Speaker 1: He's not the player that he was. No, he's not

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Speaker 2: Russ, No, no you're not. I mean he's a nine

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Speaker 1: Think you know, when you when you get benched as

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Speaker 2: I just think benching is a rough word for last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they still the starter for the last two games.

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Speaker 2: Else anybody possibly could, right, I mean, Steelers have one

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I think that you're going to

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Speaker 2: I hate like three person competitions, and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think Rudolph would probably be the only guy that

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's there will be two more Steeler quarterbacks. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There will be there'll be somebody can find that's clearly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and is okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Last year, then you you've you've gotten what you wanted

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Speaker 1: to at him. If he if he goes into this

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Speaker 1: and he he wilts, he you know, he pounce, and

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Speaker 1: then he wasn't the guy that you thought he was

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Speaker 1: to begin with.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly, it's not the same. But when the Packers

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Speaker 2: drafted Jordan Love, Rogers was not playing like an m

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Speaker 2: VP at the time, you know, and it just so

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Speaker 2: happens the years after that he got back to m

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Speaker 2: VP form. So if it takes drafting a quarterback to

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Speaker 2: get better at quarterback, no matter how you do it,

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Speaker 2: mission accomplished.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean to get better at quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean, we just want the guys taking snaps

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Speaker 2: on game day to be the best day possibly could be.

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Speaker 2: The Packers got that, you know, did the see will

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Speaker 2: the Steelers?

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Speaker 1: Well let's get to a break. Yeah, we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: kind of what this does for the picture for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers in the next They're there and their right here too, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get to that when we return. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am

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Speaker 1: the Dale Lollie. You are the Matt Williamson the Drive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the Drive. It's a the kind of day

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: This is the day, man, it is the day.

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Speaker 1: Basically, while the league year kicks off on Wednesday at clock.

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Speaker 1: This really starts off.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is the day. There's no doubt. This is

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Speaker 2: the busiest day of the year non draft. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: terms of just player movement and all that. It's a blast.

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Speaker 2: And all week will be this way as well. I

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Speaker 2: guess there's a couple of teams that still have time

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Speaker 2: to get under the cap between now and Wednesday. So

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Speaker 2: there were even more releases coming. And like Aaron Jones,

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Speaker 2: they feel bad for like Aaron Jones, you know, they

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Speaker 2: go sign Josh Jacobs Aaron Jones, it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: minute later. Yeah, yeah, you're three years younger or whatever.

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Speaker 2: That's a difference.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers also making some more news. They yeah, just

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Speaker 1: reportedly agreed to a contract with punter Cameron Johnston. He

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Speaker 1: was the punter for the Houston Texans last year. He's

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Speaker 1: also punted for the Philadelphia Eagles, so he has punted

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Speaker 1: in some weather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it hasn't just been in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Where the weather is great. But you look at the

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Speaker 1: career average forty seven point three yards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have some numbers on him too.

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Speaker 1: I just desire the career net is forty two point

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Speaker 1: two and you look at it last year thirty pick

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Speaker 1: kicks inside to twenty only three touchbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really good. So I just saw this on Twitter

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Speaker 2: and someone just retweeted it. He was seventeenth in yards

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Speaker 2: per punt, sixth in punts inside the twenty and net

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Speaker 2: yards per punt, third and fair catches forced, and twenty

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Speaker 2: eighth in hangtime. So yeah, there you go. I mean

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Speaker 2: the hangtime thing's not great, but apparently he's very good

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Speaker 2: directionally and not booming him into the end zone. Yeah. Cool.

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Speaker 1: All too many people look at you just want to

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Speaker 1: look at the net punting end average right on punters

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Speaker 1: as well, that guy's not good. Look at the net.

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Speaker 2: Rarely they ask a punter just to kick as far

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Speaker 2: as they can, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's where you see the guys. Well he everg

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Speaker 1: just fifty yards of kick, Yeah, but he's given up

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Speaker 1: fifteen on the return every time the end ze down

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: Right. It's not always pull out the driver and just

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Speaker 2: smack it as hard as again.

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Speaker 1: Because they can all kick the ball in that situation.

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Speaker 1: But it's a directional stuff which the Steelers do a

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Speaker 1: lot of.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it's good that this this box is just checked.

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Speaker 2: This need. Yea, you take care of let's not worry about.

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Speaker 2: Then you got a legit NFL punter. Good. Okay, you're

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Speaker 2: knocking out the big thing. You're not the big things,

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Speaker 2: but the things that you knew were going to get

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Speaker 2: done or checked off the boxes. Now I think it's

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Speaker 2: time to more. How do the puzzle is gonna fit?

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Speaker 2: You know, you knew you're gonna have a quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 2: in free agency or somewhere before the draft. Now a

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Speaker 2: punter is off the board. So you got center tackle,

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Speaker 2: maybe a third receiver. I mean, the defensive backfield needs

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Speaker 2: a lot of work. So what parts did that come

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Speaker 2: in the coming days weeks? What parts that come April

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Speaker 2: in the draft?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And you know, as the Steelers often do, they

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Speaker 1: like to at least have legitimate guys at all twenty

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Speaker 1: two starting positions when they go into the draft. I

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Speaker 1: mean they may overdraft.

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Speaker 2: Some of those guys, sure that happens, but you know.

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Speaker 1: You never want to go into the draft saying, boy,

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Speaker 1: you have to take this position.

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Speaker 2: No, that's bad business. I think that that's not the

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Speaker 2: way that they'll be set up. But there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of holes that didn't leave to get filled. Quickly

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Speaker 2: or not quickly. They don't have to be on quickly.

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Speaker 2: That's a misnomer. And people are probably panicking that a

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Speaker 2: lot of names we've brought up over the weeks are

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Speaker 2: falling left and right. Guys, this is how it happens

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Speaker 2: every year.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely right. They're desirable, and you know what, we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen happen yet. At least I haven't seen any yet.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen a safety market.

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Speaker 2: The only one is McKinney went to the Packers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I think Savage went somewhere that was more of Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: He's more of a slot than a safety anyway. But no,

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Speaker 2: the safeties are pretty well untouched. It's deep, real deep.

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Speaker 2: The center interior line what shocked me. I mean that

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Speaker 2: one hard, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: That's because often everybody said, wow, my team has the

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Speaker 1: worst offensive line in the league. No you don't, No,

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Speaker 1: you don't.

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Speaker 2: But every team could use more. Yeah, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: there's still a shortage in the league, even though it

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Speaker 2: looks like a really good O line draft. So I'm

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Speaker 2: up blown away by that. But the numbers are pretty high,

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Speaker 2: and there were a lot of you know, read them,

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Speaker 2: and they're not big names. I mean Lloyd Cushionberry's not

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Speaker 2: a big name, but I mean they're they're they're centers

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Speaker 2: and guards that are all getting scooped up pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, the Steelers aren't necessarily in that

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Speaker 1: market in terms of needing a guy who you know

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Speaker 1: can come in. I mean, it would be nice to

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Speaker 1: get the center position taking care of them. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: again they have a placeholder there.

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Speaker 2: For people don't know. Mitch Morse was here and then

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Speaker 2: went to Jacksonville signed with them. Yeah, the Raiders kept James,

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Speaker 2: you know, so he never even hit the market. Same

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Speaker 2: with uh, you know Detroit. It's not raged now, but

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Speaker 2: Glass now there was also center guard capable. He didn't

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Speaker 2: leave the market. Ye, sign to the oddish, went to

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Speaker 2: the and and there's a couple of them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: just the centers are going quick. Yeah. So I mean

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Speaker 2: again you could look at center draft to could look

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 1: In the draft. Yeah, he's a good center draft and

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Speaker 1: you know, if you have the draft one, so be it.

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Speaker 1: But again, you have a guy there that, okay, you

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Speaker 1: know he can start and play. You know, it just matters,

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Speaker 1: you know what kind of center is he because you know,

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Speaker 1: we just haven't seen her big do a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: I still hope for Spencer Anderson being in the mix. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, and as it would stand today.

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Speaker 1: But looking at this in terms of the Russell Wilson signing,

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Speaker 1: what does that do for the projections for the Steelers?

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Speaker 1: Remind people, I keep it, well, you know they're gonna there.

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Speaker 1: They are a nine win team. Well they won ten

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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, they made the playoffs. So you added quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Presumably you're gonna get better quarterback play this year, one

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Speaker 1: way or the other.

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Speaker 2: I would think. I mean, whether it's Picket.

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Speaker 1: Evolving or whether it's Wilson and being the guy, you're

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Speaker 1: going to get better. You're gonna get more than twelve

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes out of the quarterback position this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean I always warned people every time this year

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Speaker 2: I go on along die tried that this is the

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Speaker 2: the the operatinistic the line. There's a couple of months

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Speaker 2: here of eternal optimism. Yeah. I mean I love when

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Speaker 2: people say, well, you know it'll be healthier next year,

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Speaker 2: and well the whole line, no, just to make bad

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Speaker 2: things are going to happen next year to every team

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Speaker 2: out there, Gus Edwards said, the Chargers. That fits really well.

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Speaker 2: I mean I figured they'd get a power back of

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Speaker 2: some sort. I mean some of the running backs have

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Speaker 2: moved too. Yeah, Jacobs goes to the Packers, Saquon goes

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Speaker 2: to the Eagles. I mean, they don't pay backs, but

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Speaker 2: they're changing.

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Speaker 1: They paid that back.

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Speaker 2: They paid that back pretty well, not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: Tells me again. Now you're paying your quarterback, who really you.

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Speaker 2: Know, didn't quite live up to it this past year.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're paying your wide receiver one of them. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: the tight ends getting paid. Now you're paying a running back.

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Speaker 2: Too, and it's an expensive old line as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they also signed half the edge rusher too. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I think Reddick's going to be gone via trade

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Speaker 2: and might be sweat that they've entertained the offers for Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of changes in Philly, like they were

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Speaker 2: not happy the way the end of the season, nor

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Speaker 2: should they know. Two new coordinators right right.

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Speaker 1: Right, But looking at the prognosis here for the Steelers, yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: you were a ten win team last year. Now we

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Speaker 1: have to presume at this point of the year that

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow comes back healthy, although he's still not throwing

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Speaker 1: the football.

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Speaker 2: But let's project him to be there for week one

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Speaker 2: of course, and Watson as well.

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Speaker 1: And Watson's yeh should be back, but he's still not

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Speaker 1: throwing the football. Really, you know, they think they're both

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Speaker 1: scheduled to start throwing again this month. And you know

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Speaker 1: we're seeing that the you know, the Ravens are going

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Speaker 1: to lose more of this offseason than what they gained.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think so. Yeah, Well, al T Higgins is

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Speaker 2: asking for a trade.

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Speaker 1: Higgins is now requested to trade from the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: You know, Cincinnat He's got a nice chunk of cap space.

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Speaker 2: But Higgins, Boyd Joanah Williams, reader and a woozy. They're

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Speaker 2: all up and tight ends.

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Speaker 1: You know the sign sample they gave new Sample money.

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Speaker 2: He's a blocker, yeah, I mean yeah, And they're gonna

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Speaker 2: move on from mixing, so they're gonna have a lot

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Speaker 2: of holes too. But they have some money. What the

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Speaker 2: Browns are gonna do, I mean, I think they'll spend

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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 1: They trade for everything is yeah, they traded me. I

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Speaker 1: hate the trade for Jerry Jude. They're gonna pay him

645
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Speaker 1: because he's on his fifty year option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're picking that up, like twelve million dollars

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Speaker 2: for Jerry ju guaranteed. Right, he's done very little. I

648
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Speaker 2: mean I loved him coming out of BAM. I was

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Speaker 2: wrong about him. I think he's one of the most

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Speaker 2: overrated route runners and unreliable players in the league.

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Speaker 1: And from what I've seen, he's a bad dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he sounds like he's a problem, kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a malcontent. Yeah, you know, Yeah, I mean, you

654
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Speaker 1: don't start yelling at a guy on the sidelines who's

655
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: doing a sideline report who's a former NFL player and

656
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Steve Smith like he did last year.

657
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it was such a bad what are you doing?

658
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Yeah?

659
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: Like, what do you care what Steve Smith thinks about

660
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: you one bit? That you come back and keep yelling

661
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: at him on live television.

662
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: And you haven't been good for a while, right, Yeah,

663
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: they were anxious to get rid of him. Yeah, that

664
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: was a big mistake picking up his fifth year option.

665
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: And now Cleveland's basically picking up his fifty year option.

666
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: Right. I mean they inherit a guaranteed one year deal

667
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: is what happens to them, which is decent money for him,

668
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: But the division is gonna be hard. I mean we

669
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: know that. I mean two elite quarterbacks. Who knows what

670
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: Watson is. But he has talent obviously, and the you know,

671
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: the boarding casts around him are good. You know Brown's

672
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: done the first round pick. Bengals are picking a little

673
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: higher than usual, Ravens are picking late, and Steelers should

674
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: be able to I do think there's a chance so

675
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers improve their team more than anyone else in

676
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: the division.

677
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I think the off season, Yeah, I think. I think

678
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: the addition of Arthur Smith Goes is a step in

679
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: that direction. And I think the addition of Russell Wilson

680
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: is a step in that direction. Yeah, you're not counting

681
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: it will be nice if Kenny Picktt takes a big

682
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: step for right, right, right, But you're not counting on

683
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: it now.

684
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: You don't need him to or bust. And you mentioned

685
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith. The Steelers think, and I agree, they upgraded

686
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: it offensive coordinator, where the defensive coordinator for the Ravens

687
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: a very prominent offensive mind for the Bengals. Both became

688
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: head coaches, and one of the best offensive line coaches

689
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: on the planet left the Browns, so they got pillaged

690
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: from some of their good stuff assistant coach wise, Yeah,

691
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: you know.

692
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, did you mentioned the Ravens losing their defensive courters.

693
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. By the way, Patrick Queen signed up there

694
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: a big shocker too, so he's not coming back to Balton.

695
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: They called that shot.

696
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't see the money, but that was coming.

697
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: That's an easy one.

698
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and you were you were the team in

699
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers that over the last two seasons has gone

700
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: eight and four in a division.

701
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

702
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Now, eight and four might not sound like much.

703
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: In this division. It's really strong. Eight and four in

704
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: this division. I mean when you start looking at eight

705
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: and four in the NFC South, No, you.

706
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Know, when you when you look at what everybody else

707
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: has done within the division, because two years ago everybody

708
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: was three and three within the division. Yeah, and now

709
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you know last year the Bengals didn't win.

710
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: A division game. Yeah, they were to huh.

711
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: You know if you look at uh so over the

712
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: last two seasons, Baltimore six and six in the division,

713
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland six and six in the division, I mean.

714
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: In Cincinnati must be four and eight.

715
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight and.

716
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Four is really good, really good, yeah, really good and

717
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: ends up taking the playoffs. No, but I think it'll

718
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: be a shock if they're not in the thick of

719
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: it again in the toughest division in the league.

720
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because I think they're They're built, the way

721
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: that they play is built to win this division. Yeah yeah,

722
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: And I mean to to get to the playoffs. The

723
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: best way to do that is to win the division.

724
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. If you could win four or five games

725
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: and division again, next.

726
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Year, you'll be and you play a third play schedule.

727
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeahs an advantage too. Bengals play the fourth place schedule,

728
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: which is nice.

729
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Nice for them.

730
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: Yea burrow situation for them, But they're gonna look a

731
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: lot different. I would still say the Ravens are the

732
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: best team in the division, but they're gonna get hit

733
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: the hardest.

734
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati right now, to me would be the favorite.

735
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh really, I would still say that the Ravens.

736
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are gonna get hit too hard.

737
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: Think hit hard. I mean they've already lost Queen and Edwards.

738
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: There's more to come.

739
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who's playing receiver for him? And who's you know,

740
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: you know some of those things that what their offensive line.

741
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: No, their offensive line could get hit.

742
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: He's going to be an issue.

743
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it is.

744
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: We're seeing guards get paid.

745
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: Guards get paid. Yeah, Zeitler could make a good buck

746
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I wonder what Williams, the right tackle for

747
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: the Bengals, is going to make, you know what I mean,

748
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: probably a decent buck too, and he's okay, you know yeah. No,

749
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: they're like every division, there's a lot of up people

750
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: right now. But I like what the Steelers are at.

751
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: I like their resources to keep building in these coming

752
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: days and draft, and I think they'll be in the

753
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: thick of it. I mean, especially if they can you

754
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: kind of met. We brushed over this a little bit,

755
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: but if next year the Steelers throw twenty five touchdown passes,

756
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: I mean they were approaching thirty, is Wilson was. He

757
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: didn't play the last two games, he threw twenty six,

758
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: they could get over twenty five ish. That's like years

759
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: different than what's been.

760
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: The Bengals just agreed to terms with Geno Stone. That's

761
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: not going to help their run defensive.

762
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: No, but they stressed so much from their safeties or

763
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: it hurts the Ravens for one thing, but they knew

764
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: he was going to go. Probably they stressed so much

765
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: from their safeties and they had two new safeties this

766
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: past year and they weren't happy with them. So they're

767
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: basically telling you we were not happy with our two safeties.

768
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: Two years, fifteen million dollars for Geno Stone.

769
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just trying. I think the Steelers will be

770
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: in the safety market, but probably won a little cheaper

771
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 2: than that, and it wouldn't start that money now, So

772
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: that doesn't break my heart at all that he left. No,

773
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: but I am paying a lot attention to the safety contracts.

774
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, you know I think that. Well, Grover

775
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: Stewart signed with the sum with the Colts three years,

776
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: thirty nine million, So these.

777
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: Are Deniko Autry signed with the Texans. Pretty nice price

778
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: actually too, Yeah a lot. I mean something's happened in

779
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: every five minutes.

780
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: It really is. And so again this thing is going

781
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: to continue to change and mold. But having the quarterback

782
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: situation taken care of, I mean, you're not waiting now

783
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: on Mason, Rudolph Mason. What are you gonna do?

784
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: No? Right, And it makes me think that this was

785
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: the guy they wanted when he became available. I'm not

786
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: saying it's going to work out or it's the perfect

787
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: deal in the world. But from a financial standpoint, the

788
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: Wilson thing is just so attractive to get someone with

789
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: his pedigree that really wasn't bad bad last year. I mean,

790
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, he's worth more than a million dollars that.

791
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: I think that they looked at that and said, of

792
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: all of our quarterback options, that's the one we want,

793
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: and then they made that happen first. Yeah, that's a

794
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: good timeline, absolutely.

795
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll see what else is in store. We're

796
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: here again. You've taken care of the punter situation though.

797
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: It's good to lock that up.

798
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Not that that is a major, major thing, No.

799
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: It's been a problem, but you checked it off.

800
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people, I got to get rid of that punter. Well, okay,

801
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: so now you get you know, if you if you get.

802
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: If you presumably upgrade there, and it's even just just

803
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: more consistency.

804
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: Consistency is the key.

805
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the Steelers are not going to be a

806
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: high flying, thirty point game team, so things like special

807
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: teams and hidden yardage and turnovers are a little more

808
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: important to that.

809
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the way you've played football, and you

810
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: can continue to play football that way. You've you've shown

811
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: that you can win games like I can remember I

812
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: talked to a guy that I know, the league, guy

813
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: out at the at the combine. He goes, how did

814
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin get ten wins out of that team that roster.

815
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, the roster itself isn't bad, I said,

816
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: but that's just what he does.

817
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: He does. Yeah, Like they win.

818
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: The close games. And one of the things that we

819
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: always talked about when we talked about the winning of

820
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the close games, who are the key who are the teams,

821
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: who were the coaches, and who are the quarterbacks that

822
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: did that? Yeah, it was always Brady and Belichick. Yeah,

823
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: that's where I was going with that won a lot

824
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: of close games together.

825
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: And a lot of close games.

826
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, then turn the football over.

827
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: You can say quarterbacks wins or quarterbacks to that or not.

828
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: But he's won a lot of them. Yeah, heah, absolutely has,

829
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: as has tom Win. Yeah.

830
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: So, I mean you've gotten a guy who kind of

831
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: matches and melds, you know, and he's also got I

832
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: think it's like thirty eight career fourth quarter comebacks. That

833
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: doesn't say so, I mean you got some of that

834
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: there as well. He's got splash plays again, he's He's

835
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: not twenty nineteen Russell Wilson.

836
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: We're not saying that at all.

837
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: He's not that guy's a slam done for the Hall

838
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: of Fame Russell Wilson now. But I think he's a

839
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: guy that wants to get back to that level or

840
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: at least show that he is still a capable quarterback

841
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: that they It's kind of like the Brady Belichick situation

842
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: when Brady goes to to Tampa. He's got a little

843
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: something to prove.

844
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Rogers with the Jets is champion.

845
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: It's a bit. I mean, all those guys. I mean,

846
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen often that a near Hall of Fame

847
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: quarterback changes teams. I mean, it's a new motivation, it's

848
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: a new way of going about your business all the time.

849
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: And I know we touched on it a little bit

850
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: in the opening segment, But the fact that I do

851
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: believe that he will be better as a red zone

852
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: passer and as a play action passer no matter what,

853
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: and the play action percentage is going to go up monstrous.

854
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: But get me to twenty two to twenty five, twenty

855
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: six passing touchdowns. I mean, that's so much different than

856
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: it's been in the last couple of years around here.

857
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, all of a sudden, George Pickens looks better

858
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: for fantasy too, you know, I mean yeah, I mean

859
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: deep ball guys too.

860
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know I think that you know, it

861
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: raises the level of water.

862
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, for all, I think the floor just got raised. Yeah.

863
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, like if the Steelers, if I haven't looked,

864
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: but if they were at eight and a half wins

865
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: again going into this week in terms that.

866
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: They're over under, I would lean towards over.

867
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: They probably pushed up maybe nine and a half.

868
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Now maybe, Yeah, Yeah, I mean, at least there's more certainty.

869
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that. I'm sure that's hard on

870
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: Vegas not knowing what this quarterback situation was going to

871
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: look like. They knew it wasn't gonna be Cousins, they

872
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: knew it wasn't going to be taylerb Williams or Drake May,

873
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: but they didn't know exactly what it would look like.

874
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Now at least they do.

875
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I don't know that Wilson makes you a

876
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: markedly oh wow, you're super bold contender anything like that.

877
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: No, but you got better, You got better and even

878
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: big picture, if Wilson and Pickett, Wilson Pickett Wi.

879
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I thought of that when we were talking about it

880
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: last week.

881
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 2: That's gonna come up again.

882
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift.

883
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift was a great one. You see the money

884
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: that the Swift got by the way, you got Taylor money,

885
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: got Taylor Swift money. But anyway, let's say Picket and Wilson,

886
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: whenever the Steelers season ends, whether they're eliminated or they're

887
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: out of it in week fifteen, whatever it is, whenever

888
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: their season's over, we might all know that neither one's

889
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: the answer. Right, That's possible, which as possible, which is okay,

890
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: you know, because I do think the rest of this

891
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: roster could get reinforced to the point where maybe trade

892
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: up from twelve to three next year, you know, I

893
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: mean like you could make.

894
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: That move like the like you know the Chiefs did

895
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: with Mahomes, and you go, you know, you go up

896
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: to ten.

897
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: Or you sign the next cousin, you know what I mean.

898
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I have no idea what next year's quarterback class it's

899
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: going to look like it, nor do I care at

900
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: this point.

901
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. I mean, I know a couple

902
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: will go high no matter what you know, whether I

903
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: know it's not projectively as good as this year, but

904
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: that changes so fast. But if you could reinforce this

905
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: roster in the next couple of months where you have

906
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: cap space, and even if you have a disaster year,

907
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: you could go get that quarterback, that might not be

908
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: so terrible either.

909
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because as we've seen him

910
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: recent years, guys have become available more so than ever before.

911
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: Sure, never thought Wilson ten years ago never happened, No, right,

912
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they're not going to resign Dak or

913
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: someone else that's free agency, or fifty year option wasn't

914
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: picked up it should have been, or you know, there's options.

915
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: So even those two are disasters. If the rest of

916
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: the rosters built well, you're not losing a ton immediately,

917
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, you might be in a good spot. Just

918
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: to insert quarterback here.

919
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

920
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the drive here on

921
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:41,960
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922
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,320
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00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: number three.

930
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: Jerseys, ah, yeah, not quite available yet.

931
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Until the ink is dry on the right.

932
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: They're not. They're not bringing him up yet, but hopefully

933
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: that all works out. Should you know, but they are

934
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: None of these contracts are official, folks.

935
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't jump the gun on that stuff. Wait

936
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: until it actually happens.

937
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: We just had a quarterback signing though around the league. Yeah,

938
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Minshew is a Raider, so you would think it's gonna

939
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: be Minshew O'Connell and maybe a draft pick.

940
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: There had just been rumors that they were talking about

941
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: trading for Justin Fields.

942
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 2: I don't know where Fields lands. I mean, I can't

943
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: see Sean Payton being interested in that. Would they trade

944
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: him in division to Minnesota moving back to New England?

945
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: What's the cost going to be now?

946
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: I I think it's five Would you do that for

947
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: your Steelers.

948
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: No, because I'm I don't have any use for I

949
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: don't want a three headed quarterback back.

950
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: It's a mess, right, and he's a lot different than

951
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: those two him. They're mobile, but they're not like him.

952
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think New England if I were,

953
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: how about my early third and then draft Marvin Harrison

954
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: junior and could even draft one the second round. I'm

955
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: running out spots for him though, yeah, or maybe through

956
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: the Bears. You gonna say, I'm gonna hold on to

957
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: them until a couple of injuries happen.

958
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: And then you got you can see that to the

959
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Vikings and yeah, hey we we we don't want them anymore.

960
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: But here he is.

961
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I mean, divisional trades for a

962
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: quarterback is pretty rare.

963
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty rare.

964
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really rare. And I think the Raiders have

965
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: to be out of it now. You would think I

966
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: would think, Yeah, I guess you don't know that for sure,

967
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: but I would think so.

968
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, really, if you're Indianapolis, wouldn't that make

969
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: some sense.

970
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: As a backup? Is the Yeah? Yeah, they had money.

971
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean they extended Pittman and you're happy assume of that.

972
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Given what happened with Richardson last year, like right, you

973
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: couldn't finish a game.

974
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have changed an offense at all at all? Not bad. Yeah, yeah,

975
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: that would be why I wat. Yeah, the thing is

976
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to pick up a fifth year option though,

977
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean.

978
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: That's the problem unless you you know, you could trade

979
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: for him and say, hey, you know we we love

980
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: you and you saw him, don't pick up Jordan Love

981
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: type deal and say, hey, we're not paying our starter

982
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: much money. We can afford to give you ten million

983
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: a year.

984
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: You can negotiate it, that's what you're saying. Yeah, give

985
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: you a two three year deal, and hey, for Richardson

986
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: can't stay healthy or if he flops, it's you.

987
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: You're a guy.

988
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe it's probably a couple of teams that

989
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: could do that approach.

990
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that one, that one would make the most

991
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: sense because again, stylistically, he wouldn't have to change anything.

992
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: But for the Eagles, there's another one. You know, I'm

993
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: just thinking about pure running quarterbacks, you know, I mean,

994
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: just beat my backup.

995
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Learn me for a year from this guy, and yeah,

996
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: it worked out for him.

997
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: Maybe trade hurts a year from now or something. It

998
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, well, they could do that too. Yeah. Wow,

999
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't know where he lands. But I like the

1000
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: minsh You pick.

1001
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: Up the Raiders somewhere as a backup, though.

1002
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that one would say you're the

1003
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: guy unless it's Minnesota. Yeah. I thought the Raiders would

1004
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: make some sense. But the getsy things.

1005
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Maybe Seattle.

1006
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's some sleeper team. If you saw the Giants.

1007
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, if but if you saw the quotes from.

1008
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: They didn't see yes Gino or no, I didn't.

1009
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Say we're married to Gino. That was not said.

1010
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this is really prognosticating. But I mean they

1011
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: hired Washington's offensive coordinator. I could see Penick somehow ending

1012
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: up in Seattle. I mean, whether that's trade back at

1013
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: the end of the first round, or do the Levis

1014
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: move to get to the near the top of the

1015
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: second something like that. I kind of felt like they

1016
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: should draft one a year ago.

1017
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably should have.

1018
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: Probably, but they didn't, you know, I mean, they had

1019
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 2: multiple firsts. That's why I thought that, you know, Hendon

1020
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: Hooker or something like that would have made sense.

1021
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: Devin Duverney leaving the Ravens for the Jaguars.

1022
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: Jags have been busy.

1023
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: They had been very busy.

1024
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, have been busy. I don't know.

1025
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: That's been money well spent. They're spending money. They usually do.

1026
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: Right, right. It's funny a couple of these teams, the

1027
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: Jags at the top of the list, Like when when

1028
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: they signed Morse and the Steelers didn't, I thought, maybe

1029
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: we didn't want worse. There's a couple of teams he

1030
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: just kind of rolled your eyes up. Or it's a

1031
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: good player and they just give him too much.

1032
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: The Gardner Minshield deal two years, twenty five million dollars

1033
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: good for him, fifteen million fully guaranteed.

1034
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: That's starter money. That's starter money. Yeah, low end start.

1035
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: That's probably like the g No deal. Yeah, he was

1036
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: good for the Colts.

1037
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, that looks like they're figuring on starting him.

1038
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 2: I would think he's a starter, unless I think he's

1039
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: probably the day one starter. And yeah, for rookie falls

1040
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: in your lap, you grab or yeah you could get

1041
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: up for McCarthy. If you love him, you take him,

1042
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: or you don't, or next year your guy. It's not

1043
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: a bad move for them.

1044
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: No, no, So you start to get still.

1045
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: A pretty cheap quarterback room too.

1046
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, not not awful. How about this for the since

1047
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: the this all has started, between cuts and now free

1048
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: agent losses as of an hour ago. Okay, the Dolphins,

1049
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: oh have lost Christian Wilkins. Yeah, guard, Robert Hunt, Xavian Howard,

1050
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: Andrew Van Ginkel, Brandon Jones, Jerome Baker, Emmanuel Ba and

1051
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: Keon Crossing another cornerback.

1052
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: Wow. We thought they could be the one hit the hardest.

1053
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Their defense has gotten devastated.

1054
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: Gotten devastated. Wow. And the old line was pretty rough

1055
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: to begin with. Yeah, and gloss hont Hunt got paid.

1056
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I think they reworked Armstead, but he's still frat.

1057
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: They needed to do that just to get under them.

1058
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: Just get under the cab, just on the cab. And

1059
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: I think that the moo they signed a tight end

1060
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: John Yu. Yeah, you know, so they added a little

1061
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: something that's rough.

1062
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: And another offensive weapon when everything they're losing is on

1063
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the defensive side of things.

1064
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd kick the tires on Drone Baker for the Steelers,

1065
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: I would too. Yeah. I kind of like that fit. Yeah,

1066
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: but the linebackers don't seem to getting scooped up too much.

1067
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: No, that's been kind of slow. You'd think that's kind

1068
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: of maybe the secondary. There are certain positions that kind

1069
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: of get you know, those safety line linebacker up the

1070
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: middle of your defense don't get paid like they used to.

1071
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: No, sometimes they get paid heavy. But then there's not

1072
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: a tier two.

1073
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: No, there's no tier two. I think see, you know,

1074
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams because there it is

1075
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: a little bit like Blake Cashman got signed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Minnesota,

1076
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit you can kind of piecemealed

1077
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: out together a bit.

1078
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: No, I do think that's what teams are doing. Who

1079
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: was I just about to mention there? Whatever? Also, DeAndre

1080
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: Campbell got released too, So another linebacker got on the market.

1081
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: You know, I have to dig intohim more. That was

1082
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: a recent news. But now there's a lot of linebackers

1083
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: out there still.

1084
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I think you can add another guy

1085
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: even if you play it like you did last year.

1086
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: What's a three man rotation or something that worked?

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Speaker 2: Fine, it's not going to be healthy, fine, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and maybe one of them at.

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Speaker 1: Least you have too healthy at the same time and

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Speaker 1: all the time.

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Speaker 2: This as long as all three of them are out

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Speaker 2: two of them are out right that again, no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: and that's one of the benefits of having like a

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Speaker 2: three man rotation, because if Rokuan's out, you're out, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if Warner's out, you're out. You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have other guys available, but maybe they're not Roquan,

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Speaker 1: but they can give you solid, you know, a level

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Speaker 1: of solid floor.

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Speaker 2: And their three contracts might not equal roque either.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're not gonna be six x six or seven

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Speaker 2: seven seven. I mean, you're gonna play. There are different

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Speaker 2: skill sets and that's what most teams are doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but there are a lot of linebackers out there. The

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Speaker 2: more I think about it, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to another break. That's going to do it

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