Speaker 1: Welcome to What's Burning. I'm here with Matt Barnes, Stephen Jackson,
Speaker 1: all the Smoke Dynamic duo. Matt, you look like you've
Speaker 1: had an early morning today. It's a long one rege.
Speaker 1: You know. You know my last style. I get up early,
Speaker 1: you know, send some emails, hit my morning joint, take
Speaker 1: the kids to school, go to work out, rush back here,
Speaker 1: meetings all day. It's just it's just a day in
Speaker 1: the life. But I'm blessed and happy to be here
Speaker 1: with you guys. You know, it's just a regular morning stack.
Speaker 1: He's all good. I love I love the fact that
Speaker 1: my boy stayed busy. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: keeps me pink pulling off all the stuff he got
Speaker 1: going on, So let him stay busy. He might be Jamaican.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of Matt's little side projects
Speaker 1: later in the show. But first, guys, we got to
Speaker 1: talk about the big news. Kyrie trade is official. Luca
Speaker 1: Kyrie tandem will have their first game together Wednesday night
Speaker 1: here in l a versus the Clippers. So just give
Speaker 1: it to me, Matt. What do you expect of this pairing?
Speaker 1: What do you think I expected to take time. I
Speaker 1: look at it as I mean, how blessed this Kyrie
Speaker 1: been to be able to play with the Lebron James Um,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and and and Jayson Tatum. And now you
Speaker 1: get a chance to play with Luca Um. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously the obvious thing that stands out Rachel is either
Speaker 1: both ball dominant guys. But I'm to the to the
Speaker 1: to the notion of great players will figure out away
Speaker 1: to coincide. And you know, whether this is the long
Speaker 1: term play a year rental, I don't know. I expected
Speaker 1: to take a little time to get going, but I
Speaker 1: expected to be very exciting. Yeah, they still want to
Speaker 1: play away from me. Rage uh, you know, I love Luca,
Speaker 1: I love Kyrie. I think it's gonna be excited. Basketball
Speaker 1: is gonna be musty TV. They got it one of
Speaker 1: the best point guards of all time to coach both
Speaker 1: of them and put the positions to be successful. Really
Speaker 1: just go out there in space the court and let
Speaker 1: these two guys do their job. But even and even
Speaker 1: if it's for a short term, Rachel is gonna be
Speaker 1: good to see. But it's not gonna be championship. Basketball
Speaker 1: is not gonna be what we expect to see from
Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie. I think they still want to play away,
Speaker 1: but but just just just for the excitement of the
Speaker 1: game for the NBA is good. Its must be basketball
Speaker 1: right now. And another thing too, rape real quick. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously on the offensive side, it looks what does it
Speaker 1: look on the defensive side to lose uh yeah, to
Speaker 1: lose a Fenny, to lose a Finnie Smith. I mean,
Speaker 1: with all due respects Luca, he's not much of a
Speaker 1: defensive guy. He does absolutely everything else but defense. Um,
Speaker 1: Kyrie works at it, but he's not the best defender.
Speaker 1: Christian Wood is not really a defender. Um. So their
Speaker 1: core guys that they need to go to for offense
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily go to guys on on defense, you know,
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to really j kids are gonna
Speaker 1: have to get that that team that team defense helps side,
Speaker 1: extra efforts, all that kind of They're really gonna have
Speaker 1: to work on the offensive in or they're just gonna
Speaker 1: be a team too that's gonna try to outscore one
Speaker 1: and we know in the playoffs that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: And I agree with Jack, I don't think they're championship contender.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, they could be scary and
Speaker 1: get hot and and you know that's very terrible. By
Speaker 1: the way, Christian Wood not the best defender. I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't just numbers wise. Isn't he like one of the
Speaker 1: worst big men defenders in the whole league. I mean,
Speaker 1: that has been I don't want to lay it on him.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to lay him on it laid on
Speaker 1: him that hard. But yeah, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, Jason Kidd when he took over, they were
Speaker 1: so strong in defense. I think they were top ten,
Speaker 1: maybe seventh in the league. They finished all season with
Speaker 1: Phinney Smith they this year and then they just you know,
Speaker 1: gave that away. So I look, I get it in
Speaker 1: a Western conference, especially this year where it feels so
Speaker 1: wide open, if you want to gamble on Kyrie with Luca,
Speaker 1: especially when Kyrie has to be like really mentally in
Speaker 1: it because he knows he's playing for a contract, I
Speaker 1: totally get trying to take that risk. But I am
Speaker 1: interested to see what works out, and especially long term.
Speaker 1: You know, Kyrie, just when you talk about straight availability,
Speaker 1: that is the thing always about Kyrie from a basketball standpoint,
Speaker 1: that worries me most is we all know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's one of the most just talented players of all time,
Speaker 1: just full stop period, right period. But you know he
Speaker 1: never played I looked at I've never played more than
Speaker 1: fifty four games this season for his entire time with Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: And when you looked up winning percentage because of I
Speaker 1: think a lot of the availability issues with Kyrie. They're
Speaker 1: fifty win percentage Without Kyrie, it's at win percentage. So
Speaker 1: they got so used to playing without him it almost
Speaker 1: turned into a wash. I don't know, like that is
Speaker 1: my question when you go in terms of do they
Speaker 1: offer him a sort of long term deal this summer,
Speaker 1: because if they don't give him an extension, which has
Speaker 1: been reported, they're not going to do that this season.
Speaker 1: They want to see how it plays out. Then you
Speaker 1: get to the summer, he is available for a four
Speaker 1: year level max, right, So are you going to give
Speaker 1: him the whole bag for that kind of availability? What
Speaker 1: would you what I mean, Stack, you're a huge Kyrie fan.
Speaker 1: I know how much of a monetary and year long
Speaker 1: risk would you take on Kyrie knowing s his health
Speaker 1: and availability issues for all kinds of reasons over the
Speaker 1: last few years. Well, I mean, it was a lot
Speaker 1: going on, you know, when he was in Brooklyn, you know,
Speaker 1: and even though a lot of people talk about he
Speaker 1: didn't show up to work rates, well, he couldn't right.
Speaker 1: He couldn't work because of the vaccine situation. And then
Speaker 1: if you see now they're giving people money for missing work.
Speaker 1: All the people that missed work because of the vaccine
Speaker 1: New York, a lot of people are getting back paid,
Speaker 1: but they're not speaking on that for NBA players. So
Speaker 1: he he wasn't wrong for not having to take it
Speaker 1: because a lot of workers getting back paid, so they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be doing that those people wasn't wasn't wrong for
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't right for standing up for themselves.
Speaker 1: And Kyrie was in that same situation because he was
Speaker 1: in New York. But a lot of situations you can't
Speaker 1: explain racial Regardless what's going off the court, you have
Speaker 1: to be available, and I understand it as a basketball player.
Speaker 1: You have to be available. You have to beat up
Speaker 1: for your teammates, and that's one thing. You can't let
Speaker 1: the stuff off the court affect that a lot of
Speaker 1: people had hands in it to to affect his play too.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you have to
Speaker 1: take responsibility for your own acts. Like you said, I'm
Speaker 1: a big Kyrie guy. I understand what he does on
Speaker 1: the court is special. He's one of the top team
Speaker 1: players in the league right now, and if anybody get
Speaker 1: a chance to land him, they will. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that the situation he was going through in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: will occur again, because, like you said, a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff has passed on. I just think he's so good
Speaker 1: he's gonna continue to get chances until he just can't
Speaker 1: play anymore because he's that goddamn good. And and it's
Speaker 1: it's a good question, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: we we think his heart is in l A. So
Speaker 1: if they don't extend him, he becomes a free agent.
Speaker 1: I remember, Rachel, you said a long time ago that
Speaker 1: the Lakers best move maybe just be able to keep
Speaker 1: Russell the entire season because his money comes off the books.
Speaker 1: And then that's going to allow the Lakers to have flexibility.
Speaker 1: And you know, if Kyrie is available, uh, they will
Speaker 1: end up getting him. So this is exactly you know,
Speaker 1: that's exactly where he wants to be. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see how this Dallas situation
Speaker 1: plays out. It could be a one year rental, but
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was trying to make a splash.
Speaker 1: You know, you got two of the most dynamic offensive
Speaker 1: players and in an offensive driven league. So if there's
Speaker 1: any this is the year. I've never seen the West
Speaker 1: this wide opening ever. But you're right, they gave up
Speaker 1: a lot. If this just ends up being like a
Speaker 1: five month rental or whatever, it is, like think about
Speaker 1: how much they gave up. And then you heard lebron
Speaker 1: yesterday in his interview with Michael Bloban. He said, oh,
Speaker 1: to me, Kyrie gives us a chance to win a championship.
Speaker 1: You know, in his head he's got Anthony Davis and Kyrie,
Speaker 1: the two teammates he's ever fit the best with. Of
Speaker 1: course they're going to go after him this summer if
Speaker 1: he's a free agent. I don't it's just it's and
Speaker 1: then it not to cut you off rage, but I
Speaker 1: feel like under Bronze guidance and leadership, I think we'll
Speaker 1: get to see just basketball Kyrie, which we've seen the
Speaker 1: last two and a half months. It's been absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: But then you think, too, when it's time for Lebron
Speaker 1: to make a move on. You have got damn Kyrie,
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irby and Anthony Davis, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So obviously you're gonna miss the dynamic of the world,
Speaker 1: is gonna miss Lebron, but you still have a great
Speaker 1: core to continue to build, right And Kyrie's health is
Speaker 1: the other issue, just you know, he definitely because of
Speaker 1: his size and just the way people go at him
Speaker 1: and defend him, He's had a bunch of injuries. Like
Speaker 1: it's just it's so many question marks going into this
Speaker 1: as always going to be interesting to watch it unfold.
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you guys, though, about the
Speaker 1: other side of it with the nets stack. If you
Speaker 1: were Kevin Durant, where would your head be right now
Speaker 1: in terms of being in Brooklyn? Well, I mean if
Speaker 1: I was Katie. I mean, I'm I know him and
Speaker 1: mccarie had a conversation about all this, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know they both have to be responsible for their own
Speaker 1: decisions and their own careers. Um. Obviously, I think Katie
Speaker 1: respects the fact that if can come with a decision,
Speaker 1: I mean, come with an agreement with Brooklyn. Obviously, the
Speaker 1: decision to to move on. I think Katie respected that
Speaker 1: because it's about you know, it's about business at the
Speaker 1: same time and taking care of yourself and making your money.
Speaker 1: But I know in the back of his mind he like, damn,
Speaker 1: he would go with you know, I got here. I
Speaker 1: gotta go with this ship again. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta come back from injury. I gotta
Speaker 1: come back from injury. I gotta try to wild this
Speaker 1: team to the playoffs and try to get this team
Speaker 1: as far as we can with whatever we got. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate him being there long. Rage. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna kind of force his way out of there
Speaker 1: some type of way, probably not this season, but um,
Speaker 1: I know in the back of his mind he's gonna
Speaker 1: come out and be a professional and do what he
Speaker 1: has to do for the team. But he knows, damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta go through this ship again, missing my my,
Speaker 1: my so called best friend. UM. I think it's obviously
Speaker 1: the clock has taken on Katie's career, which is unfortunate. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he's still one of the greatest players, uh
Speaker 1: in this game, and he'll go down as an all
Speaker 1: time favorite. But something to keep in mind is you know,
Speaker 1: he's writing his his his ending, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We're not saying, you know, it's it's It could be
Speaker 1: three to five years. We don't know how long it is.
Speaker 1: But the one knock on k D has been he
Speaker 1: hasn't won his team like his team hasn't won it,
Speaker 1: So it could be now that, hey, they've pretty much
Speaker 1: clean house. I don't think Brooklyn has done making moves
Speaker 1: before the All Star break. I think they're still gonna
Speaker 1: try to make a splash. Ben Simmons hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to give them too much. You know, I know the
Speaker 1: knee is is is a little worse than people are
Speaker 1: are understanding. But at the same time, availability is needed,
Speaker 1: uh not. I just you know, I just I've heard
Speaker 1: some things. Um so you know, to me, I think
Speaker 1: they could possibly clean house for k D and um
Speaker 1: you know allowed him to kind of Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we we handed the keys to Kyrie. It didn't really work,
Speaker 1: but you know, Katie still is a superstar, top five
Speaker 1: player in the game. We trust Katie because he's shown
Speaker 1: us loyalty. He shows us whenever he's healthy, he's gonna play,
Speaker 1: He's gonna give us his absolute most every time he
Speaker 1: steps on the floor. Let's try to rebuild a team
Speaker 1: real quick, and I think that you know, the management
Speaker 1: would be up to that. You know, obviously you don't
Speaker 1: want to have to lose all three of these guys.
Speaker 1: So um. But on the flip side, I can see
Speaker 1: him possibly getting traded. But I just think he'll stick
Speaker 1: it out because the knock on him is his team
Speaker 1: hasn't won it. No matter where he goes, it's gonna
Speaker 1: he may be the best player, but it's still gonna
Speaker 1: be so much in the next few days. So I'll
Speaker 1: never say never. I cannot imagine the Nets intend to
Speaker 1: trade him be or this trade deadline, because if they did,
Speaker 1: they would have wanted a different package for Kyrie right,
Speaker 1: They would have wanted younger players, they wanted more draft picks.
Speaker 1: They clearly we're looking for guys that can help them win.
Speaker 1: Now there's all these rumors, and maybe by the time
Speaker 1: people are watching or listening to this, Spencer Dimwiti would
Speaker 1: have already been traded. I don't know. As we sit
Speaker 1: here today, he is a net um, but he is
Speaker 1: certainly rumored to be on the block as they try
Speaker 1: to upgrade even there at point guard, so we'll we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens with them. You know, it's funny this
Speaker 1: past summer, when Katie was specifically asking out, I kept saying,
Speaker 1: if I'm the Nets, I am not trading Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: You have him locked up for the next four years.
Speaker 1: And no matter what you get, even with key d
Speaker 1: as you said, Matt being on sort of the backer
Speaker 1: you know, last third or whatever of his career, like,
Speaker 1: you're not getting value for Kevin Durant, and even if
Speaker 1: you get draft picks and all that, Like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: are you going to draft to Kevin Durant? I mean
Speaker 1: this is this is in the group of one of
Speaker 1: the best players of all times. So I just think
Speaker 1: your odds of replacing him are and to me, I
Speaker 1: would just do whatever you had to do to keep
Speaker 1: him on the roster, even if he asked for another trade.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all lived through Kobe Bryant going on
Speaker 1: the radio and asking to be traded, and Jerry Buss
Speaker 1: at the time said, no, I'm sorry, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: You're Kobe Bryant and you're gonna be a Laker. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm the Nets I just focus
Speaker 1: everything on Kevin Durant Matt As you said, he's got
Speaker 1: the chance now to prove what he can do by
Speaker 1: himself or you know, with with players that aren't superstars,
Speaker 1: and um, I think, I don't know. I think it
Speaker 1: could be fun. It could be a lot less drama
Speaker 1: than it's been in the past couple of years. So
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how it is. If you guys
Speaker 1: were Russell Westbrook, would you feel some kind of way
Speaker 1: about Lebron going on TV and saying I'm disappointed that
Speaker 1: didn't happen because he would have been dealt yo' I mean,
Speaker 1: it ain't get any person, it's business. I mean, this
Speaker 1: ain't the first time Lebron didn't Senu waited that he
Speaker 1: wanted Kyrie. You know, just ain't the first time, other
Speaker 1: than even even other people to say things. But I
Speaker 1: think at this point, all things that been said about Russ,
Speaker 1: everything he's been through, from the fans, from the organ's
Speaker 1: age to everybody and still being professional, I think he
Speaker 1: got the media. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I think he should be numb at all at
Speaker 1: this point. Rage Yeah, I mean, Jack, I think that's
Speaker 1: a great point that the fact that, you know, think
Speaker 1: about how much you can say what you want about
Speaker 1: is playing. This guy's the first about the Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: and people don't obviously don't care currently what you've done
Speaker 1: in the past because they currently need to win. And
Speaker 1: I get that. But the thing about what this guy
Speaker 1: has done to be who he was his entire career, sacrifice,
Speaker 1: go to the bench, become a six man, buy into
Speaker 1: that role. And he's not playing bad. I mean, he
Speaker 1: he his his turnovers are the issue. You know, you
Speaker 1: can complain about his shooting, but I like how aggressive
Speaker 1: he is on the offensive end. Um, but he's had
Speaker 1: to sacrifice so much. And then, like you said, it's
Speaker 1: not only the l A fan base, it's not only
Speaker 1: the media now, it's you know, inside the room as well.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I just want to take my hat
Speaker 1: off to Russ for remaining a pro, going out there,
Speaker 1: playing being available, playing every single you know, every single
Speaker 1: game possible, uh, and just going out there and doing
Speaker 1: his job. This is a tough and but like Jack
Speaker 1: said to we get that this is a business now.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what it's going to be
Speaker 1: like in the locker room still, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we understand it's the business. Lebron is
Speaker 1: on the end, on the back end, and he wants
Speaker 1: now and it just kind of, you know, it kind
Speaker 1: of is what it is. So again, I just wanna
Speaker 1: applaud Russ for just going out there and staying professional
Speaker 1: and being available. Yesterday in Darvin Ham Darvin Ham actually
Speaker 1: went on for a while about Russ has been a
Speaker 1: total pro. He's always ready in this situation. It gets it.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: interesting to have the leader of your team go on
Speaker 1: TV and say I'm really disappointed that the trade that
Speaker 1: would have sent russeurs Perk away didn't happen, and then
Speaker 1: they suit up together the next night. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens these guys. It's not only the leader, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not only the leader of the team is
Speaker 1: the best player, you know, arguably the best player ever,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like damn like that that
Speaker 1: that makes it that much harder, I think. But you know,
Speaker 1: like like Jack said, he's probably he's probably none of
Speaker 1: the other best players ever. Steph Curry right likely gone
Speaker 1: at least through the All Star break. He had such
Speaker 1: a crazy, nasty injury report that had a bunch of
Speaker 1: names and words that I could not pronounce. But what
Speaker 1: I understand from people who know much more about medicine
Speaker 1: than me, is it's basically a version of a high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain. We will see. I don't know, what do
Speaker 1: you think? Like, who steps up? With him gone? And
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson had what twelve triples the night so he
Speaker 1: could be good candidate? You said a version of a
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain? It was his knee or is it
Speaker 1: it's his ankle? I think, I think if you go
Speaker 1: look it up what they initially announced, I would repeat
Speaker 1: it for you right now. But I seriously cannot pronounce
Speaker 1: half of the words that they threw out there. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make no sense. We can throw it on this greame,
Speaker 1: but like it's seriously, it's it's not good. But that's
Speaker 1: what the medical people in the media media medical people
Speaker 1: are saying. It's like a shimmy ti ankle kind of situation.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But who steps up, Like, who's who's
Speaker 1: going to make that happen? Go ahead, Jack, Well, obviously
Speaker 1: the pool has to keep up his play. He has
Speaker 1: to continue to be aggressive. And and and, But you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely Clay. Clay has been up and
Speaker 1: down this season. He's starting to get into a flow.
Speaker 1: I think with step being out, Clay has to come
Speaker 1: out and be way more aggressive. He has to, he
Speaker 1: has to try. He has to try to put up
Speaker 1: put a couple of thirty thirty five point games together,
Speaker 1: especially with step being out that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on Pool to carry the offense. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, a lot of those young guys got to
Speaker 1: step up. But Clay is my guy. He has to
Speaker 1: go into his bag and put out some of those
Speaker 1: thirty point games. Rachel, I think we're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to see if this team because you know, I still
Speaker 1: haven't really pushed the panic button somewhere. I mean, the
Speaker 1: panic is probably the wrong word. But I think this
Speaker 1: time with Steph being out as and be important because
Speaker 1: I think everyone has to step up, including the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: I think the best case scenarios, this team really gets
Speaker 1: their ship together right now, so when Steph comes back
Speaker 1: after the All Star break, you can plug steff in
Speaker 1: because you know what Steph is gonna consistently give you. You
Speaker 1: You know that, So if the rest of the team
Speaker 1: can get their ship together from and all means ship together.
Speaker 1: Like they've been playing bad. But you know, there are
Speaker 1: five hundred teams. So if if the rookies can get
Speaker 1: on track and really find out where they're gonna be
Speaker 1: DiVincenzo has been playing well. Jamachael Green is back now.
Speaker 1: Like Jack said, Clay has to continue to step up.
Speaker 1: Pool has to get his game under control, but continue
Speaker 1: to put out you know, a high level of points. Uh,
Speaker 1: Draymond needs to stay Draymond. Right now, I think Day
Speaker 1: needs to step up a little more offensively, be a
Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive. When we've seen him do that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, from time to time this season. So I
Speaker 1: just think as a whole Steve Ker's best case scenarios.
Speaker 1: This is when and I'm not saying we're gonna win
Speaker 1: a ton of games, but I don't think this, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they should win more games than they lose
Speaker 1: with step out. So I think right now we're gonna
Speaker 1: see if this team can put it together. So when
Speaker 1: Steph comes back, they could really make that run. But
Speaker 1: if they play below five basketball and stuff comes back,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have a chance to compete
Speaker 1: at the end of the sea that we were talking
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago about the Warriors just having
Speaker 1: that fatigue, right, I mean, they've been in the finals
Speaker 1: so many times over the last five years. This is
Speaker 1: a good problem to have, obviously, or more than five years. Actually, sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't even misspeak on Golden State's behalf. It feels
Speaker 1: like forever that they've been in the finals all the time,
Speaker 1: and like you don't care about the regular season as much.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it, right, those guys just feel like, great,
Speaker 1: we can turn it on one accounts. We need sixteen
Speaker 1: runs at the end. That's it, um. But there's got
Speaker 1: to be a point where you've got to be playing
Speaker 1: well going into the playoffs. Golden State is still seven
Speaker 1: and twenty on the road, seven and twenty on the road.
Speaker 1: Now they're twenty and six at home. But you they're
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, there's I think the number seven
Speaker 1: seats as we sit here today, like they're not going
Speaker 1: to have home court, so you need to clean that up.
Speaker 1: No matter how good a team you are, when is
Speaker 1: too late, Like when is it too late to get
Speaker 1: your act together? I mean, is Week one of the
Speaker 1: playoffs too late. Is it the end of March too late? Like,
Speaker 1: what's what's the end of the then then the March
Speaker 1: is too late. Rachel, you you you, you gotta you
Speaker 1: have to you have to really be mid marcha beginning
Speaker 1: to March. You gotta you gotta be. Like in playoffs,
Speaker 1: in playoff form, everybody has to be on the same page. Guys.
Speaker 1: You have to have to be practically healthy to the
Speaker 1: point where coach can run off like seven eight games
Speaker 1: in a row with playing this key guys, guys that
Speaker 1: here gonna have this, that's gonna having his playoff on
Speaker 1: the playoff Ross said playoff rotation, and then the last
Speaker 1: two or three games of the season he can kind
Speaker 1: of rest those guys. That's the situation you want to
Speaker 1: be and you want to be in the foot and
Speaker 1: feel good state. You want to have the eight man
Speaker 1: rotation healthy, all those guys playing about seven eight games
Speaker 1: before the season of hard and resting them if you
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. I agree, I think they need
Speaker 1: the month. You know, you know, Jack can can test
Speaker 1: post all star breakers. When the season starts, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be anywhere from thirty games, depending on what your first
Speaker 1: half look like. But that's the rut. But I think
Speaker 1: you need a month and then, like Jack said, you
Speaker 1: want to get them in a good rhythm and then
Speaker 1: kind of wind them down going into the play Also
Speaker 1: that you know that you limit their minutes, they continue
Speaker 1: to get treatment, they continue, so they're as fresh as
Speaker 1: they possibly can be, particularly for this team, because you
Speaker 1: know Golden State as an older team, so you need
Speaker 1: to you know, revamp Draymond's legs, steps legs, Clay's legs, uh,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But if you're looking at
Speaker 1: the bigger picture of this year's playoffs, I'm just giving
Speaker 1: you a hypothetical. What if it's the Lakers at eight healthy.
Speaker 1: What if it's Golden State at seven healthy, or or
Speaker 1: or in Phoenix healthy. What if those there's the bottom
Speaker 1: three teams versus Denver, Memphis, and Sacramento. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: some ship going on in that first round, and and
Speaker 1: it would be you know, it wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: there were three upsets, you know what I meaning. It
Speaker 1: can completely go the other way as well. But that's
Speaker 1: how wide open and crazy this season has been. Where
Speaker 1: you think, you know, I would have put the Clippers
Speaker 1: down there but they're playing well. I think they may
Speaker 1: end up being a top three definitely a top four seed,
Speaker 1: but they might even slide up to a top three seed. Um.
Speaker 1: But just it's been such a crazy season and if
Speaker 1: and obviously, like every season, health is the key. But
Speaker 1: if those three teams I just mentioned are healthy and
Speaker 1: they're at the bottom of the West, the top of
Speaker 1: the West is gonna be scared. I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: be in the number eight spot because the Nuggets are
Speaker 1: still playing crazy basketball right now. Denver is tough with
Speaker 1: all dues, respect and I feel like Denver gets disrespected
Speaker 1: because they've done everything. They've played great. But I'd like
Speaker 1: to me like I look at them as how I
Speaker 1: used to look at Utah Ustaw. I used to have
Speaker 1: a run of just great regular seasons and then when
Speaker 1: they get in the player I just have to see
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs. I'm not saying Denver. Denver is
Speaker 1: the best team in the West. They're deep, you know,
Speaker 1: Jokers arguably could be the three time m v P.
Speaker 1: But I just have to see them do it in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's why I think, to everyone else's mind,
Speaker 1: they need to see that too. That's why we feel
Speaker 1: the West is so wide open. Yeah. I mean again,
Speaker 1: this goes back to why Dallas said let's take a
Speaker 1: crazy risk, because if you're going to do it, this
Speaker 1: is a season to do it, all right. One word
Speaker 1: answer is Draymond Green Warrior after this season? When you
Speaker 1: said Draymond Green has to step it up? Is this
Speaker 1: his final run with the Warriors? Oh? If he's if
Speaker 1: he's willing to take a drastic pay cut, I think
Speaker 1: he'll be. Uh if he still if they win in
Speaker 1: he expect to bag the bank. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Um. Yeah, I think he'll have to take
Speaker 1: a cut. Um rage. Do you know does anyone to do?
Speaker 1: Could they give hypothetically, could the Lakers give Kyrie big
Speaker 1: money next year and give Draymond some good money to
Speaker 1: or No? Not really, They only really have room for
Speaker 1: one big other player. But look, if if Kyrie hangs
Speaker 1: on in Dallas or if they extend him, maybe you
Speaker 1: give that money and Draymond. But then that also gets
Speaker 1: into the question how old do you want your team
Speaker 1: to be? Right? I mean, Raymond's advanced in years as
Speaker 1: Lebron is. Draymond takes a beating out on the court,
Speaker 1: his game is aging in a different way like I
Speaker 1: don't It's just it's a tough thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: Draymond taking a bunch of pay cuts because you know,
Speaker 1: we've all met Draymond and he's a smart, batist guy.
Speaker 1: But also you know, you don't know what the market
Speaker 1: is going to be for him. Does Detroit did the
Speaker 1: Piston throw a creezy amount of money at him? Say
Speaker 1: come home to Michigan and be our team leader, you know,
Speaker 1: be that that presence we need. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting, But that's the other thing I'm
Speaker 1: looking at with the Warriors, with this last chunk of
Speaker 1: the season and the playoffs. Draymond has said he's not
Speaker 1: sure if he's gonna be with the team. I mean,
Speaker 1: he knows. This is an open conversation, So I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's like that galvanizing if he can play
Speaker 1: with Braun, he go and play with Braun. Trust me.
Speaker 1: He just said that Braun breaking a Bron breaking the record,
Speaker 1: and they got a game somewhere else. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Bron game. So I guarantee you if you get
Speaker 1: a chance to play with Braun and l A he
Speaker 1: go home, It'll be interest. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what he prioritized, you know, Rachel, I think he brought
Speaker 1: up some good scenarios. Do you want to go home
Speaker 1: and get mac you know, as much money as you get.
Speaker 1: We don't know if it will be a max, but
Speaker 1: finish at home. Do you want to continue winning? Do
Speaker 1: you want to take up and be one of those
Speaker 1: rare guys that says his entire career with one organization?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go play with Braun for not
Speaker 1: as much money, but a chance to just be a
Speaker 1: part of that whole mix. So I think it'll be
Speaker 1: very interesting to see, uh, you know what what happens
Speaker 1: postseason with him. You guys were talking about the tough
Speaker 1: teams in the West, and obviously Denver to me is
Speaker 1: still that team that a lot of people don't want
Speaker 1: to see. The Grizzlies used to be one of those teams. Right,
Speaker 1: you'd say, no one wants to see the Grizzlies in
Speaker 1: the first round. Memphis is a lot eight of lost
Speaker 1: eight of their last nine ever since the Shannon Sharp game,
Speaker 1: as I think it will be for Ashly, things have
Speaker 1: gone downhill there and look part of it when when
Speaker 1: there is turbulence, you can't ignore the fact that Memphis
Speaker 1: only has two players who are older than twenty eight
Speaker 1: years old, Steven Adams and Danny Green. And Danny Green
Speaker 1: hasn't even played yet. I mean, this is a thing
Speaker 1: that when there is a bump in the road, you
Speaker 1: need a VET. And we've talked for years, guys about
Speaker 1: how there's fewer vet presences in the NBA because of
Speaker 1: the roster changes and the rule changes. How badly do
Speaker 1: you think the Grizzlies need to look for a vet
Speaker 1: before they trade deadline? Well, they need more than the
Speaker 1: vet rate. You're not saying they need more than the VET.
Speaker 1: I mean I like joh I like the passion of
Speaker 1: his team. You know, I like the confidence, but it
Speaker 1: at some point you gotta come to reality. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to look in the mirror and accept what's real.
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think they. I think they have
Speaker 1: a hard time doing that. Yeah, we know you're a
Speaker 1: real confidence team, but on the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: y'all not know we're close to the championship molde of
Speaker 1: a team at all. What the championship team looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, y'all competitive team. Yeah, you'll kind of remind
Speaker 1: me of of of our Warrior team when do we
Speaker 1: believe days we were a young competitive team. In our
Speaker 1: mind we was the championship team, but in the the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things race we was we would know where
Speaker 1: close to being ready and Utah showed us the second round. So, uh,
Speaker 1: they in that same situation, they and I think they
Speaker 1: need another star, Rachel. I don't think they, uh, they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be comfortable with the team they have. They gotta
Speaker 1: they gotta make some other moves. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a VET. I think it's another star. A VET only
Speaker 1: gonna do so much for for a team, for the
Speaker 1: young guys, because you can you ain't be able to
Speaker 1: get them all inline rights. Only one and two might listen.
Speaker 1: All of them ain't gonna listen. So they needed and
Speaker 1: that's just being real. They're gonna they need another start
Speaker 1: to to to get the way they want to be.
Speaker 1: I agree one thousand percent. Um. You know, although I
Speaker 1: feel like all locker rooms should have vets, that's a
Speaker 1: different group and it would take a very crafty VET
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, capture these young fellows.
Speaker 1: Mine especially because you know, their second in the West
Speaker 1: and and they've had some success. So I think first
Speaker 1: and foremost this and I love the way they played.
Speaker 1: I just think they need to humble themselves a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think, you know they're doing the talking is louder
Speaker 1: than the play, and you don't never really want that
Speaker 1: to be the case. I think this team is still
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I think they've hit a rough rough
Speaker 1: patch during the dog days of the season. Um, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to regather, regroup. But I
Speaker 1: think with Jackson is is my is key and I've
Speaker 1: been saying this a lot on ESPN, is who is
Speaker 1: there for sure? Number two? You know, obviously Bain is
Speaker 1: having a career year. Uh, you know, hats off, Tames
Speaker 1: be playing really well. Is Jaren Jackson that consistent guy?
Speaker 1: I think Jaren Jackson hasn't been as consistent as you
Speaker 1: would like someone to be that second, like Robin to
Speaker 1: Jos Batman. We know what John is gonna give you, uh,
Speaker 1: regular season and playoffs. He's just a killer, playing a
Speaker 1: simple Who is going to be that number two options
Speaker 1: that could consistently give you that twenty to twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty three points sometimes give you thirty UM in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. Although I think Jaren Jackson and
Speaker 1: some of those guys are capable of doing like scoring
Speaker 1: thirty in the playoff game, they're not going to be
Speaker 1: that consistent guy. You know that it's going to be
Speaker 1: your dog. The the the brown to Tatum in the
Speaker 1: in the PG two, Kauai that some of these other
Speaker 1: teams that really have a chance to win a championship
Speaker 1: have you also have all the off court issues. You've
Speaker 1: got the incident in Indiana the other night right where
Speaker 1: Joh's best friend got into it physically with some of
Speaker 1: the Pacers staff and then got in an suv that
Speaker 1: John Moran also got into. He was in that suv
Speaker 1: and the Pacers say that someone trained a red laser
Speaker 1: on them and there was no no no one confirmed
Speaker 1: there was a gun, but that was the sort of implication.
Speaker 1: The NBA investigated it um, they said they couldn't prove
Speaker 1: anything one way or another, but they left it open um.
Speaker 1: Job's best friend is now banned from not only on
Speaker 1: being on the road, but he's banned from Memphis home
Speaker 1: games for the rest of the year. Jaws also in
Speaker 1: the lawsuit because of the physical altercation he got into
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I mean, if you guys were
Speaker 1: giving advice to John right now, Stack, you've dealt with
Speaker 1: some of this stuff, what would you tell Job right now?
Speaker 1: I tell him the distance himself from anybody that don't
Speaker 1: have the same vision or the same purpose of the
Speaker 1: same people don't feel the same way about him losing everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You have you have to care.
Speaker 1: You can't care about these things because I care about it.
Speaker 1: You have to care about it because you don't want
Speaker 1: me to lose everything I worked for. Right It's it's
Speaker 1: a different situation. You caring about it because I care
Speaker 1: about You want to care about it because I care
Speaker 1: about it, because you don't want to lose what I'm
Speaker 1: doing for you. If you care about me and you
Speaker 1: care about me losing all these things, and I just
Speaker 1: think the job he has to get to the point
Speaker 1: where he got to understand who he is. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been in situations where, you know, I started making
Speaker 1: money and I felt like money can fix everything, and
Speaker 1: that's not realistic, right you. You you have to make
Speaker 1: the right decisions for yourself because everybody around you is
Speaker 1: not and uh, I have to also correct myself to right.
Speaker 1: So it's one person I know that can go out
Speaker 1: and get that locker room, but it's Jerry's in the
Speaker 1: raptors and that zebo. Well look at some wis that's serious.
Speaker 1: I just think that the jaw has to to understand
Speaker 1: what's at stake right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And and you know we don't know the whole side,
Speaker 1: the whole story, what happened. Who's with them? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously Sandon Sharp went in and and try to give
Speaker 1: him some unk advice. Um the other day that you know,
Speaker 1: he made some good points, some things I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: agree with, but at the same time, I think he
Speaker 1: was saying that to try to help him. I just
Speaker 1: think John has to understand what's at risk. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: his talent is unbelievable. This guy can make a ton
Speaker 1: of money not only playing the game, but he just
Speaker 1: sided you know, he just got a signature shoe. Uh,
Speaker 1: the endorsements are going to continue to come off the
Speaker 1: court as well, so he just has a lot more
Speaker 1: to lose. So you just have to understand. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you know, we can't tell him who he
Speaker 1: can and can't hang out what you know, you obviously
Speaker 1: want to have a tight circle that have your best
Speaker 1: interests at heart, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: some people are your people. You know. Sometimes I think
Speaker 1: they'll get to a point if you realize you've gotta
Speaker 1: let somebody go, because a lot of times you outgrow people,
Speaker 1: but you you know, they hang on somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: So he just had to understand that, you know, he's
Speaker 1: going to continue to elevate, and certain friends are meant
Speaker 1: for certain levels, and it continues to get smaller and tighter,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna bring something with you. You just can't
Speaker 1: bring them all with you. So I just hope that
Speaker 1: you know, he understands what's at risk right now. You know,
Speaker 1: some shi it you just can't do. And and and me
Speaker 1: and Jack have both done some ship you just can't do,
Speaker 1: you know what I means. So yeah, yeah, So we're
Speaker 1: not trying to tell you know, hey, you yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: how you shouldn't were the last people to say you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I just, you know, hope is you know,
Speaker 1: just as as as people who have been through some
Speaker 1: ship and not even on the level he's on because
Speaker 1: of who he is. Just understand what's important, man, understand
Speaker 1: your vision, Understand where you're going, and everybody can't go.
Speaker 1: And if I could, if I can show, if I
Speaker 1: can share one message with Rachel, would be what I learned.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing I've learned. Everybody is not mente fit
Speaker 1: to be. Everybody is not meant to benefit from your
Speaker 1: blessing God. God would take something away from you because
Speaker 1: you got somebody benefit that he didn't, that he didn't
Speaker 1: attend to bless And I learned that the hardway. So Jie,
Speaker 1: everybody's not God blessed you for a reason. He didn't
Speaker 1: bless everybody around. But how hard is that You're twenty
Speaker 1: three years old, you're an NBA player, and this happens
Speaker 1: to a lot of guys. How legit hard? Is it? To?
Speaker 1: Very hard? It's real hard. It's hard. But also this
Speaker 1: is something you're gonna have to You have to learn
Speaker 1: how to stay now the family too. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about his situation in particular, but I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about in general. You just have to learn how to
Speaker 1: say no. And it's it's Rachel, It's not easy. You know,
Speaker 1: he could have really grew up in the in the
Speaker 1: sleeping in the same bed, and you know, with someone
Speaker 1: who may he may have to let go at some point.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you just have
Speaker 1: to realize that. You know, if they're a liability, you
Speaker 1: know their their name doesn't matter if your name is
Speaker 1: gonna get dragged. And they don't play in nap Town.
Speaker 1: They don't play in nap Town. I've been in this situation.
Speaker 1: You have there, Jamal tensely too, So they don't they
Speaker 1: don't play in that time. And like I said, right,
Speaker 1: you just gotta try to avoid putting yourself in the situations. Right,
Speaker 1: there's no need for anybody around him to have a
Speaker 1: gun with a beam on him with him in the
Speaker 1: car and nothing like that, even if it's legal, right,
Speaker 1: And he shouldn't even put himself in a situation if
Speaker 1: if you know, his guys are yeah, yeah, if he's
Speaker 1: in the guy it's not proven, right, But if he's
Speaker 1: in the city with guys knowingly just had an incident
Speaker 1: and knowing it would be, it make more of sense
Speaker 1: for him to stay with the team and go you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the team. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta make decisions like, like I said, right then,
Speaker 1: Matt made some bad decisions. So we can speak and
Speaker 1: hoping that we can share these things and people won't
Speaker 1: make the same mistakes we made. Yeah, it's tough. I
Speaker 1: I have a lot of empathy for guys, especially young
Speaker 1: guys who haven't lived all the experience. You guys have
Speaker 1: to have to make those choices. I think it's difficult,
Speaker 1: and we're watching him deal with it in real time.
Speaker 1: It's also interesting if you look at the Grizzlies going forward, right,
Speaker 1: because the odds keep changing with all these teams acquiring
Speaker 1: new players. So here's some odds present and by draft
Speaker 1: kings that struck my eye. To win the Southwest Division,
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies have been a super heavy favorite. They still
Speaker 1: are minus five fifty. The MAVs four and a half
Speaker 1: games behind the grizz there at plus five fifty. That's
Speaker 1: a huge swing. But the Dallas Mavericks just got Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving and Memphis has lost eight of its last nine.
Speaker 1: So what are your odds? Guys, who do you think
Speaker 1: comes out of that division? Do you think the MAVs
Speaker 1: or the Grizzlies are gonna end with a better record?
Speaker 1: I think the Grizzlies are again. I think they've hit
Speaker 1: a rough patch and in the dog days of the season. Um,
Speaker 1: we still feel there there there possibly a player away
Speaker 1: from winning a championship. But they're still good enough to
Speaker 1: win the Western Conference, I feel, um And with all
Speaker 1: due respect to the adding of Kyrie Irving, I don't
Speaker 1: I still don't know with with that move, and that's
Speaker 1: a hell of a move. I don't know if Dallas
Speaker 1: can still win the Western Conference. And I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Lucas Lucas Amaniac and Kyrie could be a maniac two
Speaker 1: out there, just you know, being unstoppable. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I just feel like Memphis has a better team.
Speaker 1: I think they're going through a rough stretch right now.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to shake this. Think they'll
Speaker 1: be able to humble themselves and come back and get
Speaker 1: back to playing good basketball and they can represent the
Speaker 1: Western Conference. I just don't know if they have enough
Speaker 1: to win it. I wouldn't say Dallas is a better team,
Speaker 1: but I think the jig is up on Memphis. I
Speaker 1: think yeah, I think yeah. I just think they ain't
Speaker 1: fooling nobody no more. Race Like like there was a
Speaker 1: surprise to a lot of people. They walk into a
Speaker 1: lot of us people like, yeah, they talking, but can
Speaker 1: they really do it? So they're surprising a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think the they
Speaker 1: can go in they hire with what they have. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna, they're gonna they're stuck right there where
Speaker 1: they are with Dallas, it's a new excitement. You know,
Speaker 1: they might not have the better team than Memphis, but
Speaker 1: it's a new excitement. You got to two better players
Speaker 1: with Kyrie and Luca and no telling what they can do.
Speaker 1: Luca has will Dallas to a lot of wins without Kira.
Speaker 1: Just imagine what he can do with him. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot. That's bold on Memphis. I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see what happens now. You got my Jack. As always,
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Speaker 1: your most memorable All Star moment? When Magic Johnson came
Speaker 1: back after pronouncing HIV positive, I think it was in Orlando.
Speaker 1: He came back and when the m v P um,
Speaker 1: you know him being my favorite player growing up. That
Speaker 1: was my number one. Also, it gives me chills to
Speaker 1: even say it right now, and the fact that we
Speaker 1: just had him on you know, the show not too
Speaker 1: long ago. But yeah, definitely Magic Johnson coming back after
Speaker 1: retiring and win an m v P. Jolani's in the
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Speaker 1: in the Rookie All Star Game. I think the best
Speaker 1: All Star game was. I got a chance to see
Speaker 1: Stephan all and is prone the team together, something that
Speaker 1: the whole world wanted to see. They was down like
Speaker 1: fifth eighty points in the fourth quarter with a small
Speaker 1: line up, and they came back and took over that game.
Speaker 1: It was one of the most competitive All Star games
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and everybody just expected the West to
Speaker 1: win because of the stack team they had. But it
Speaker 1: was a great Austin, great experience in DC. Jeff who
Speaker 1: was who was? We don't even have to keep this
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Speaker 1: I don't remember who was on those teams. Who was
Speaker 1: on well, I think the East. The East it was
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Speaker 1: and I can't think who the fifth person was. But
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Speaker 1: M yeah, I've seen their stuff on socials. I like.
Speaker 1: I like some of the odd articles they put together.
Speaker 1: One caught my eye yesterday. Um smart investments players have
Speaker 1: made while in the league. I just want to throw
Speaker 1: some of these numbers at you. Iggy invested in zoom
Speaker 1: On Drake Guardalla in two thousand eighteen, so that was
Speaker 1: pre COVID, right. He has reportedly made four thousand percent
Speaker 1: returns his initial investment. Yeah, our guy Baron Davis invested
Speaker 1: in Vitamin Water early. We don't know exactly how much,
Speaker 1: but Coca Cola bought the company for four point one
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Speaker 1: Kobe invested six million into body Armor, apparently the lesson
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Speaker 1: for eight billion dollars and Kobe earned four hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars from that investment. Carmelo Anthony invested five hundred k
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Speaker 1: he got right when they were starting out. He like
Speaker 1: was an angel and mr. Nine years later Apple buys them,
Speaker 1: Mellow cashes out from a five thousand dollar investment, he
Speaker 1: made five million. Uh. And then you've got Lebron James
Speaker 1: two thousand eight. He was asked to where the Beats
Speaker 1: headphones in exchange for a small steak in the company.
Speaker 1: And we all know the end of that story. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Apple again bought Lebron made about thirty millions millions just
Speaker 1: to put them on. Right, is that insane? I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's the winner of all that might be
Speaker 1: Lebron right, because he didn't even have to put any
Speaker 1: money down. He just made thirty millions putting some money.
Speaker 1: Players are doing that a lot more than when you
Speaker 1: guys played. Although man, I feel like you're into everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean nothing big like these these big dogs. And
Speaker 1: then we also forget guys like Junior Bridgeman who did
Speaker 1: didn't know the food chains and and and who made
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Vinnie Johnson from the Detroit Pistons
Speaker 1: is the monster out in Detroit, you know, with his
Speaker 1: his car. So I just think it's encouraging and and
Speaker 1: it's dope, and it's I feel like now players are
Speaker 1: It's when Jack and I were in the locker room.
Speaker 1: We weren't talking about investing. We were talking about um, cars, clothes, jewelry, women.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that was next women, houses, you know, all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff after that long yeah so yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so it definitely wasn't you know, what are
Speaker 1: you investing in? And all this kind of strategic cool
Speaker 1: stuff where it made financial literacy cool. So I just
Speaker 1: think these are great stories to continue to encourage some
Speaker 1: of these younger guys to like, yo, basketball is dope,
Speaker 1: but it's just the tip of the iceberg. And and
Speaker 1: you know, continue to, you know, look up to guys
Speaker 1: like this and and and soak up games, surround yourself
Speaker 1: with people, and and and invest in understanding that the
Speaker 1: power in like Lebron, you are your own business. A
Speaker 1: lot of times for these younger guys, you don't have
Speaker 1: to put a ton of money and if any, because
Speaker 1: you are you know, you're such a huge catch. I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many companies I'm in just for
Speaker 1: being me. And I wasn't even the star. So just
Speaker 1: that you know, these young up and coming stars, man,
Speaker 1: just continue to you know, and and and this even
Speaker 1: goes back to job, you know, just continue to move
Speaker 1: the right way because you know, you represent brands, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're supermarketable. You're the new wave, You're it. It's
Speaker 1: going to be your NBA one day. So just understand
Speaker 1: big picture, man, and and and just know that basketball
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. Yeah. Man, it's funny. You know
Speaker 1: you run into people who are in basketball fans, right,
Speaker 1: and they ask you things. Uh, someone asked me the
Speaker 1: other day how the UM card dealer guy was doing
Speaker 1: to the Lakers. It took me a long time to
Speaker 1: figure out who that was. And they were talking about
Speaker 1: wrestling Russ Right, doesn't Rust have car dealerships? Yeah, I mean, dudes,
Speaker 1: dudes are doing a bunch of dopes it just before
Speaker 1: we go, guys, we gotta hit Lebron. Now. We're taping
Speaker 1: this on Tuesday morning. I don't know when everyone out
Speaker 1: there is watching or listening to it, but as of today,
Speaker 1: Lebron still needs thirty six points to pass Kareem. Lakers
Speaker 1: are at home tonight against the thunder Matt You had
Speaker 1: asked producer Nate over here to see what the odds
Speaker 1: were for this historic feat by Lebron, and I want
Speaker 1: to show them to you. DraftKings is giving plus one
Speaker 1: thirty if he breaks it tonight. Mine is to five
Speaker 1: if he does it on Thursday. And I do have
Speaker 1: to note, okay, see is on the second night of
Speaker 1: the back to back. They were up in the bay
Speaker 1: last night Clay Thompson dropped forty two on them. So
Speaker 1: do they bounce back? You night wanted to prove something
Speaker 1: and not want to be the team that Lebron breaks
Speaker 1: the record against? Or what does does Labron do it
Speaker 1: Tuesday night against Oklahoma? Se? I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: think Lebron is you know, the Lroun is so strategic
Speaker 1: and always looks a big picture. He's writ in his ending,
Speaker 1: So why not wait till Thursday night nashally televised game
Speaker 1: on T and T against Kareem's old team and do
Speaker 1: it there? So I see Brun dropping you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a nice twenty five tonight, uh and and and breaking
Speaker 1: it against Milwaukee just just a bigger storyline. And you
Speaker 1: gotta think he's always up to something as far as
Speaker 1: writing his story. I you know you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think I think you're gonna do it
Speaker 1: at home. It can't be it is at home that
Speaker 1: games at home? Both yea, yeah, well yeah, well, no,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Then I agree with you and
Speaker 1: T and T Thursday night. So I think that's it's
Speaker 1: the biggest stage if they if they both at home. Uh,
Speaker 1: I agree with y'all. Okay, see, ain't going want nobody
Speaker 1: to come out just blast. They might let everybody on
Speaker 1: their team use all six Today files and done a
Speaker 1: lot to breakfast record. Uh and uh yeah, yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with y'all. Geinst Milwaukee, man, I didn't think
Speaker 1: about that against Kareem's old team. I gotta be I
Speaker 1: gotta agree with you on that one. I think they'll Rachel, Oh,
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I was gonna say, could go ahead?
Speaker 1: Now you have you have such a you know you
Speaker 1: you're someone who has a good relationship with Kareem. What
Speaker 1: do you think, um, this will will Kareem building in
Speaker 1: the building? Do you have any insight on that it
Speaker 1: will this be? Because we've heard in the past he's
Speaker 1: not very happy. Even Magic said like, I don't think
Speaker 1: Kareem's gonna be happy with this. So as someone who
Speaker 1: has a you know, a relationship and an open line
Speaker 1: of communication, like, how do you feel like this? Will
Speaker 1: you know this this will pass? Because these are two
Speaker 1: greats in history, both Lakers. What are your thoughts? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, anything could happen, right, And if anyone
Speaker 1: could pull off Kareem being in the building, it's Genie
Speaker 1: Buss because she has curtured those relationships for so long,
Speaker 1: and maybe she went to Kareem and said, I need
Speaker 1: you there, I want you there, please do it for
Speaker 1: the Lakers organization. I would not guess that Kareem would
Speaker 1: be in the building tonight just from what has gone
Speaker 1: on between the two of them in the past. And
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's been Kareem's way. Um, but
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean there's been some really graceful passing
Speaker 1: in the torch, right when Steph Curry broke the three
Speaker 1: point record, and the way Reggie Miller was so just
Speaker 1: gracious and amazing, and Ray Allen was so amazing during
Speaker 1: that whole process with him. I don't anticipate the same
Speaker 1: thing when Reggie different. Yeah, Reggie mill is different. Bro. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't know what. Maybe he's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I want him to do it tonight. I
Speaker 1: want him to do it by scoring thirty six in
Speaker 1: one night, because it's it's like comactic to me, Like,
Speaker 1: I know it's a big T and T game. I
Speaker 1: know it's Milwaukee Bucks like all that stuff, and then
Speaker 1: you've got you know, the team Cream play for and
Speaker 1: the other team Cream play for and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, do you really want him to
Speaker 1: break it and on like the sixth point in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, Like I want him to break in on
Speaker 1: a game in the fourth quarter where it matters where
Speaker 1: he's like dropped at age thirty nine, he's dropped nearly
Speaker 1: forty points, Like that's that happens, right, That's more fun.
Speaker 1: That would be dope. But I agree with you, I
Speaker 1: think that would be dope. But I also think like
Speaker 1: a big game against Milwaukee Weather wherever, whatever point he
Speaker 1: gets it at and they end up winning, like a
Speaker 1: thrilling game in l A, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just think that you know, they could lose that game. Man,
Speaker 1: There's no question they can lose both these games, Rachel,
Speaker 1: They can lose both these games. So I think I
Speaker 1: for more money on them winning a game where Lebron
Speaker 1: scores thirty six than on them winning a game against
Speaker 1: Janice and Milwaukee. For Lebron has well he better do
Speaker 1: it against Okay, see there, because it ain't no problem.
Speaker 1: Is that Mike coming thereintet? Yeah, we can all dream,
Speaker 1: We'll see I don't know, all right, guys, thank you
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