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Speaker 1: Welcome to What's Burning. I'm here with Matt Barnes, Stephen Jackson,

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Speaker 1: all the Smoke Dynamic duo. Matt, you look like you've

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Speaker 1: had an early morning today. It's a long one rege.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know my last style. I get up early,

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Speaker 1: you know, send some emails, hit my morning joint, take

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Speaker 1: the kids to school, go to work out, rush back here,

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Speaker 1: meetings all day. It's just it's just a day in

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Speaker 1: the life. But I'm blessed and happy to be here

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Speaker 1: with you guys. You know, it's just a regular morning stack.

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Speaker 1: He's all good. I love I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: my boy stayed busy. You know what I'm saying. He

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Speaker 1: keeps me pink pulling off all the stuff he got

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Speaker 1: going on, So let him stay busy. He might be Jamaican.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of Matt's little side projects

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Speaker 1: later in the show. But first, guys, we got to

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Speaker 1: talk about the big news. Kyrie trade is official. Luca

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Speaker 1: Kyrie tandem will have their first game together Wednesday night

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Speaker 1: here in l a versus the Clippers. So just give

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Speaker 1: it to me, Matt. What do you expect of this pairing?

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Speaker 1: What do you think I expected to take time. I

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Speaker 1: look at it as I mean, how blessed this Kyrie

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Speaker 1: been to be able to play with the Lebron James Um,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and and and Jayson Tatum. And now you

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Speaker 1: get a chance to play with Luca Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: obviously the obvious thing that stands out Rachel is either

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Speaker 1: both ball dominant guys. But I'm to the to the

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Speaker 1: to the notion of great players will figure out away

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Speaker 1: to coincide. And you know, whether this is the long

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Speaker 1: term play a year rental, I don't know. I expected

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Speaker 1: to take a little time to get going, but I

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Speaker 1: expected to be very exciting. Yeah, they still want to

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Speaker 1: play away from me. Rage uh, you know, I love Luca,

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Speaker 1: I love Kyrie. I think it's gonna be excited. Basketball

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Speaker 1: is gonna be musty TV. They got it one of

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Speaker 1: the best point guards of all time to coach both

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Speaker 1: of them and put the positions to be successful. Really

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Speaker 1: just go out there in space the court and let

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Speaker 1: these two guys do their job. But even and even

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Speaker 1: if it's for a short term, Rachel is gonna be

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Speaker 1: good to see. But it's not gonna be championship. Basketball

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Speaker 1: is not gonna be what we expect to see from

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Speaker 1: Luca and Kyrie. I think they still want to play away,

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Speaker 1: but but just just just for the excitement of the

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Speaker 1: game for the NBA is good. Its must be basketball

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Speaker 1: right now. And another thing too, rape real quick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously on the offensive side, it looks what does it

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Speaker 1: lose a Fenny, to lose a Finnie Smith. I mean,

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Speaker 1: with all due respects Luca, he's not much of a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy. He does absolutely everything else but defense. Um,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie works at it, but he's not the best defender.

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Speaker 1: Christian Wood is not really a defender. Um. So their

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Speaker 1: core guys that they need to go to for offense

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to really j kids are gonna

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Speaker 1: extra efforts, all that kind of They're really gonna have

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Speaker 1: be a team too that's gonna try to outscore one

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Speaker 1: and we know in the playoffs that's not gonna work.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with Jack, I don't think they're championship contender.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, they could be scary and

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Speaker 1: You know, Jason Kidd when he took over, they were

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Speaker 1: You know, Kyrie, just when you talk about straight availability,

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Speaker 1: that is the thing always about Kyrie from a basketball standpoint,

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Speaker 1: And when you looked up winning percentage because of I

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Speaker 1: my question when you go in terms of do they

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Speaker 1: because if they don't give him an extension, which has

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Speaker 1: They want to see how it plays out. Then you

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Speaker 1: get to the summer, he is available for a four

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Speaker 1: would you what I mean, Stack, you're a huge Kyrie fan.

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Speaker 1: and availability issues for all kinds of reasons over the

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Speaker 1: last few years. Well, I mean, it was a lot

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Speaker 1: he he wasn't wrong for not having to take it

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Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't right for standing up for themselves.

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Speaker 1: And Kyrie was in that same situation because he was

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Speaker 1: You have to be available. You have to beat up

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you have to

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Speaker 1: he's gonna continue to get chances until he just can't

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Speaker 1: it's a good question, you know what I mean. We

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Speaker 1: I remember, Rachel, you said a long time ago that

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Speaker 1: And then that's going to allow the Lakers to have flexibility.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if Kyrie is available, uh, they will

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see how this Dallas situation

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Speaker 1: You know, in his head he's got Anthony Davis and Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: course they're going to go after him this summer if

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Speaker 1: But then you think, too, when it's time for Lebron

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Speaker 1: mccarie had a conversation about all this, and uh, you

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Speaker 1: But I know in the back of his mind he like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go through this ship again, missing my my,

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Speaker 1: in playoff form, everybody has to be on the same page. Guys.

427
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Speaker 1: You have to have to be practically healthy to the

428
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Speaker 1: point where coach can run off like seven eight games

429
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 1: in a row with playing this key guys, guys that

430
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 1: here gonna have this, that's gonna having his playoff on

431
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 1: the playoff Ross said playoff rotation, and then the last

432
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Speaker 1: two or three games of the season he can kind

433
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Speaker 1: of rest those guys. That's the situation you want to

434
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Speaker 1: be and you want to be in the foot and

435
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Speaker 1: feel good state. You want to have the eight man

436
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,719
Speaker 1: rotation healthy, all those guys playing about seven eight games

437
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: before the season of hard and resting them if you

438
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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. I agree, I think they need

439
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: the month. You know, you know, Jack can can test

440
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 1: post all star breakers. When the season starts, it's gonna

441
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 1: be anywhere from thirty games, depending on what your first

442
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: half look like. But that's the rut. But I think

443
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: you need a month and then, like Jack said, you

444
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 1: want to get them in a good rhythm and then

445
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of wind them down going into the play Also

446
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: that you know that you limit their minutes, they continue

447
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: to get treatment, they continue, so they're as fresh as

448
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Speaker 1: they possibly can be, particularly for this team, because you

449
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 1: know Golden State as an older team, so you need

450
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: to you know, revamp Draymond's legs, steps legs, Clay's legs, uh,

451
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But if you're looking at

452
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Speaker 1: the bigger picture of this year's playoffs, I'm just giving

453
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Speaker 1: you a hypothetical. What if it's the Lakers at eight healthy.

454
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Speaker 1: What if it's Golden State at seven healthy, or or

455
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Speaker 1: or in Phoenix healthy. What if those there's the bottom

456
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Speaker 1: three teams versus Denver, Memphis, and Sacramento. There's gonna be

457
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Speaker 1: some ship going on in that first round, and and

458
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: it would be you know, it wouldn't be surprised if

459
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: there were three upsets, you know what I meaning. It

460
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Speaker 1: can completely go the other way as well. But that's

461
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Speaker 1: how wide open and crazy this season has been. Where

462
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Speaker 1: you think, you know, I would have put the Clippers

463
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Speaker 1: down there but they're playing well. I think they may

464
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Speaker 1: end up being a top three definitely a top four seed,

465
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Speaker 1: but they might even slide up to a top three seed. Um.

466
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Speaker 1: But just it's been such a crazy season and if

467
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Speaker 1: and obviously, like every season, health is the key. But

468
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Speaker 1: if those three teams I just mentioned are healthy and

469
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Speaker 1: they're at the bottom of the West, the top of

470
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Speaker 1: the West is gonna be scared. I wouldn't want to

471
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Speaker 1: be in the number eight spot because the Nuggets are

472
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Speaker 1: still playing crazy basketball right now. Denver is tough with

473
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Speaker 1: all dues, respect and I feel like Denver gets disrespected

474
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Speaker 1: because they've done everything. They've played great. But I'd like

475
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Speaker 1: to me like I look at them as how I

476
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Speaker 1: used to look at Utah Ustaw. I used to have

477
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Speaker 1: a run of just great regular seasons and then when

478
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Speaker 1: they get in the player I just have to see

479
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Speaker 1: it in the playoffs. I'm not saying Denver. Denver is

480
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Speaker 1: the best team in the West. They're deep, you know,

481
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: Jokers arguably could be the three time m v P.

482
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Speaker 1: But I just have to see them do it in

483
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's why I think, to everyone else's mind,

484
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: they need to see that too. That's why we feel

485
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: the West is so wide open. Yeah. I mean again,

486
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Speaker 1: this goes back to why Dallas said let's take a

487
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: crazy risk, because if you're going to do it, this

488
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: is a season to do it, all right. One word

489
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Speaker 1: answer is Draymond Green Warrior after this season? When you

490
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: said Draymond Green has to step it up? Is this

491
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: his final run with the Warriors? Oh? If he's if

492
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Speaker 1: he's willing to take a drastic pay cut, I think

493
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Speaker 1: he'll be. Uh if he still if they win in

494
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Speaker 1: he expect to bag the bank. I don't think it's

495
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Um. Yeah, I think he'll have to take

496
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Speaker 1: a cut. Um rage. Do you know does anyone to do?

497
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Speaker 1: Could they give hypothetically, could the Lakers give Kyrie big

498
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Speaker 1: money next year and give Draymond some good money to

499
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Speaker 1: or No? Not really, They only really have room for

500
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Speaker 1: one big other player. But look, if if Kyrie hangs

501
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Speaker 1: on in Dallas or if they extend him, maybe you

502
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Speaker 1: give that money and Draymond. But then that also gets

503
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: into the question how old do you want your team

504
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: to be? Right? I mean, Raymond's advanced in years as

505
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: Lebron is. Draymond takes a beating out on the court,

506
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Speaker 1: his game is aging in a different way like I

507
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Speaker 1: don't It's just it's a tough thing. I don't think

508
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Speaker 1: Draymond taking a bunch of pay cuts because you know,

509
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: we've all met Draymond and he's a smart, batist guy.

510
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Speaker 1: But also you know, you don't know what the market

511
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Speaker 1: is going to be for him. Does Detroit did the

512
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Speaker 1: Piston throw a creezy amount of money at him? Say

513
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Speaker 1: come home to Michigan and be our team leader, you know,

514
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: be that that presence we need. I don't know. It's

515
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: going to be interesting, But that's the other thing I'm

516
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: looking at with the Warriors, with this last chunk of

517
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: the season and the playoffs. Draymond has said he's not

518
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: sure if he's gonna be with the team. I mean,

519
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: he knows. This is an open conversation, So I don't

520
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Speaker 1: know if there's like that galvanizing if he can play

521
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: with Braun, he go and play with Braun. Trust me.

522
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: He just said that Braun breaking a Bron breaking the record,

523
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Speaker 1: and they got a game somewhere else. He's gonna be

524
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Speaker 1: a Bron game. So I guarantee you if you get

525
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Speaker 1: a chance to play with Braun and l A he

526
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Speaker 1: go home, It'll be interest. It'll be interesting to see

527
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Speaker 1: what he prioritized, you know, Rachel, I think he brought

528
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: up some good scenarios. Do you want to go home

529
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: and get mac you know, as much money as you get.

530
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Speaker 1: We don't know if it will be a max, but

531
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Speaker 1: finish at home. Do you want to continue winning? Do

532
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: you want to take up and be one of those

533
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: rare guys that says his entire career with one organization?

534
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Speaker 1: Do you want to go play with Braun for not

535
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: as much money, but a chance to just be a

536
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Speaker 1: part of that whole mix. So I think it'll be

537
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: very interesting to see, uh, you know what what happens

538
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: postseason with him. You guys were talking about the tough

539
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: teams in the West, and obviously Denver to me is

540
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: still that team that a lot of people don't want

541
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: to see. The Grizzlies used to be one of those teams. Right,

542
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: you'd say, no one wants to see the Grizzlies in

543
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: the first round. Memphis is a lot eight of lost

544
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: eight of their last nine ever since the Shannon Sharp game,

545
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Speaker 1: as I think it will be for Ashly, things have

546
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: gone downhill there and look part of it when when

547
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: there is turbulence, you can't ignore the fact that Memphis

548
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: only has two players who are older than twenty eight

549
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: years old, Steven Adams and Danny Green. And Danny Green

550
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: hasn't even played yet. I mean, this is a thing

551
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: that when there is a bump in the road, you

552
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: need a VET. And we've talked for years, guys about

553
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: how there's fewer vet presences in the NBA because of

554
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: the roster changes and the rule changes. How badly do

555
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: you think the Grizzlies need to look for a vet

556
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: before they trade deadline? Well, they need more than the

557
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: vet rate. You're not saying they need more than the VET.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean I like joh I like the passion of

559
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: his team. You know, I like the confidence, but it

560
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: at some point you gotta come to reality. You know,

561
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: you have to look in the mirror and accept what's real.

562
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think they. I think they have

563
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: a hard time doing that. Yeah, we know you're a

564
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: real confidence team, but on the grand scheme of things,

565
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: y'all not know we're close to the championship molde of

566
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: a team at all. What the championship team looks like,

567
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, y'all competitive team. Yeah, you'll kind of remind

568
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: me of of of our Warrior team when do we

569
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: believe days we were a young competitive team. In our

570
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: mind we was the championship team, but in the the grand

571
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: scheme of things race we was we would know where

572
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: close to being ready and Utah showed us the second round. So, uh,

573
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: they in that same situation, they and I think they

574
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: need another star, Rachel. I don't think they, uh, they

575
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't be comfortable with the team they have. They gotta

576
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: they gotta make some other moves. I don't think it's

577
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: a VET. I think it's another star. A VET only

578
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna do so much for for a team, for the

579
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: young guys, because you can you ain't be able to

580
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: get them all inline rights. Only one and two might listen.

581
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Speaker 1: All of them ain't gonna listen. So they needed and

582
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: that's just being real. They're gonna they need another start

583
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Speaker 1: to to to get the way they want to be.

584
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: I agree one thousand percent. Um. You know, although I

585
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: feel like all locker rooms should have vets, that's a

586
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: different group and it would take a very crafty VET

587
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, capture these young fellows.

588
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: Mine especially because you know, their second in the West

589
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and and they've had some success. So I think first

590
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: and foremost this and I love the way they played.

591
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: I just think they need to humble themselves a little bit.

592
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know they're doing the talking is louder

593
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: than the play, and you don't never really want that

594
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: to be the case. I think this team is still

595
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I think they've hit a rough rough

596
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: patch during the dog days of the season. Um, I

597
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to regather, regroup. But I

598
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: think with Jackson is is my is key and I've

599
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: been saying this a lot on ESPN, is who is

600
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: there for sure? Number two? You know, obviously Bain is

601
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: having a career year. Uh, you know, hats off, Tames

602
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: be playing really well. Is Jaren Jackson that consistent guy?

603
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: I think Jaren Jackson hasn't been as consistent as you

604
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: would like someone to be that second, like Robin to

605
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Jos Batman. We know what John is gonna give you, uh,

606
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: regular season and playoffs. He's just a killer, playing a

607
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: simple Who is going to be that number two options

608
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: that could consistently give you that twenty to twenty two,

609
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: twenty three points sometimes give you thirty UM in the playoffs,

610
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: and I don't know. Although I think Jaren Jackson and

611
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: some of those guys are capable of doing like scoring

612
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: thirty in the playoff game, they're not going to be

613
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: that consistent guy. You know that it's going to be

614
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: your dog. The the the brown to Tatum in the

615
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: in the PG two, Kauai that some of these other

616
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: teams that really have a chance to win a championship

617
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: have you also have all the off court issues. You've

618
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: got the incident in Indiana the other night right where

619
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: Joh's best friend got into it physically with some of

620
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: the Pacers staff and then got in an suv that

621
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: John Moran also got into. He was in that suv

622
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: and the Pacers say that someone trained a red laser

623
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: on them and there was no no no one confirmed

624
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: there was a gun, but that was the sort of implication.

625
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: The NBA investigated it um, they said they couldn't prove

626
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: anything one way or another, but they left it open um.

627
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Job's best friend is now banned from not only on

628
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: being on the road, but he's banned from Memphis home

629
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: games for the rest of the year. Jaws also in

630
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the lawsuit because of the physical altercation he got into

631
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I mean, if you guys were

632
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: giving advice to John right now, Stack, you've dealt with

633
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: some of this stuff, what would you tell Job right now?

634
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: I tell him the distance himself from anybody that don't

635
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: have the same vision or the same purpose of the

636
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: same people don't feel the same way about him losing everything.

637
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You have you have to care.

638
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: You can't care about these things because I care about it.

639
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Speaker 1: You have to care about it because you don't want

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Speaker 1: me to lose everything I worked for. Right It's it's

641
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Speaker 1: a different situation. You caring about it because I care

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Speaker 1: about You want to care about it because I care

643
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Speaker 1: about it, because you don't want to lose what I'm

644
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Speaker 1: doing for you. If you care about me and you

645
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Speaker 1: care about me losing all these things, and I just

646
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Speaker 1: think the job he has to get to the point

647
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Speaker 1: where he got to understand who he is. You know,

648
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Speaker 1: I've been in situations where, you know, I started making

649
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Speaker 1: money and I felt like money can fix everything, and

650
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Speaker 1: that's not realistic, right you. You you have to make

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Speaker 1: the right decisions for yourself because everybody around you is

652
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Speaker 1: not and uh, I have to also correct myself to right.

653
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Speaker 1: So it's one person I know that can go out

654
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Speaker 1: and get that locker room, but it's Jerry's in the

655
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Speaker 1: raptors and that zebo. Well look at some wis that's serious.

656
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Speaker 1: I just think that the jaw has to to understand

657
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: what's at stake right now, you know what I mean?

658
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: And and you know we don't know the whole side,

659
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Speaker 1: the whole story, what happened. Who's with them? Uh? You know,

660
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: obviously Sandon Sharp went in and and try to give

661
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Speaker 1: him some unk advice. Um the other day that you know,

662
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Speaker 1: he made some good points, some things I didn't necessarily

663
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Speaker 1: agree with, but at the same time, I think he

664
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Speaker 1: was saying that to try to help him. I just

665
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Speaker 1: think John has to understand what's at risk. I mean, obviously,

666
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Speaker 1: his talent is unbelievable. This guy can make a ton

667
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Speaker 1: of money not only playing the game, but he just

668
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Speaker 1: sided you know, he just got a signature shoe. Uh,

669
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Speaker 1: the endorsements are going to continue to come off the

670
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Speaker 1: court as well, so he just has a lot more

671
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Speaker 1: to lose. So you just have to understand. I mean,

672
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Speaker 1: if if you know, we can't tell him who he

673
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Speaker 1: can and can't hang out what you know, you obviously

674
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Speaker 1: want to have a tight circle that have your best

675
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Speaker 1: interests at heart, But at the end of the day,

676
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Speaker 1: some people are your people. You know. Sometimes I think

677
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Speaker 1: they'll get to a point if you realize you've gotta

678
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Speaker 1: let somebody go, because a lot of times you outgrow people,

679
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Speaker 1: but you you know, they hang on somehow, some way.

680
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Speaker 1: So he just had to understand that, you know, he's

681
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Speaker 1: going to continue to elevate, and certain friends are meant

682
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Speaker 1: for certain levels, and it continues to get smaller and tighter,

683
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna bring something with you. You just can't

684
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Speaker 1: bring them all with you. So I just hope that

685
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Speaker 1: you know, he understands what's at risk right now. You know,

686
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: some shi it you just can't do. And and and me

687
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: and Jack have both done some ship you just can't do,

688
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Speaker 1: you know what I means. So yeah, yeah, So we're

689
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Speaker 1: not trying to tell you know, hey, you yeah, hey,

690
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Speaker 1: how you shouldn't were the last people to say you

691
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Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I just, you know, hope is you know,

692
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Speaker 1: just as as as people who have been through some

693
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Speaker 1: ship and not even on the level he's on because

694
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Speaker 1: of who he is. Just understand what's important, man, understand

695
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Speaker 1: your vision, Understand where you're going, and everybody can't go.

696
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Speaker 1: And if I could, if I can show, if I

697
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Speaker 1: can share one message with Rachel, would be what I learned.

698
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Speaker 1: The biggest thing I've learned. Everybody is not mente fit

699
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Speaker 1: to be. Everybody is not meant to benefit from your

700
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Speaker 1: blessing God. God would take something away from you because

701
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Speaker 1: you got somebody benefit that he didn't, that he didn't

702
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Speaker 1: attend to bless And I learned that the hardway. So Jie,

703
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Speaker 1: everybody's not God blessed you for a reason. He didn't

704
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Speaker 1: bless everybody around. But how hard is that You're twenty

705
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Speaker 1: three years old, you're an NBA player, and this happens

706
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Speaker 1: to a lot of guys. How legit hard? Is it? To?

707
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Speaker 1: Very hard? It's real hard. It's hard. But also this

708
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Speaker 1: is something you're gonna have to You have to learn

709
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Speaker 1: how to stay now the family too. And I'm not

710
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Speaker 1: talking about his situation in particular, but I'm just talking

711
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Speaker 1: about in general. You just have to learn how to

712
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Speaker 1: say no. And it's it's Rachel, It's not easy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he could have really grew up in the in the

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Speaker 1: sleeping in the same bed, and you know, with someone

715
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Speaker 1: who may he may have to let go at some point.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you just have

717
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Speaker 1: to realize that. You know, if they're a liability, you

718
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Speaker 1: know their their name doesn't matter if your name is

719
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Speaker 1: gonna get dragged. And they don't play in nap Town.

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Speaker 1: They don't play in nap Town. I've been in this situation.

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Speaker 1: You have there, Jamal tensely too, So they don't they

722
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Speaker 1: don't play in that time. And like I said, right,

723
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Speaker 1: you just gotta try to avoid putting yourself in the situations. Right,

724
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Speaker 1: there's no need for anybody around him to have a

725
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Speaker 1: gun with a beam on him with him in the

726
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Speaker 1: car and nothing like that, even if it's legal, right,

727
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Speaker 1: And he shouldn't even put himself in a situation if

728
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Speaker 1: if you know, his guys are yeah, yeah, if he's

729
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Speaker 1: in the guy it's not proven, right, But if he's

730
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Speaker 1: in the city with guys knowingly just had an incident

731
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Speaker 1: and knowing it would be, it make more of sense

732
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Speaker 1: for him to stay with the team and go you

733
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the team. You know, sometimes

734
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Speaker 1: you gotta make decisions like, like I said, right then,

735
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Speaker 1: Matt made some bad decisions. So we can speak and

736
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Speaker 1: hoping that we can share these things and people won't

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Speaker 1: make the same mistakes we made. Yeah, it's tough. I

738
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of empathy for guys, especially young

739
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Speaker 1: guys who haven't lived all the experience. You guys have

740
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Speaker 1: to have to make those choices. I think it's difficult,

741
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Speaker 1: and we're watching him deal with it in real time.

742
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Speaker 1: It's also interesting if you look at the Grizzlies going forward, right,

743
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Speaker 1: because the odds keep changing with all these teams acquiring

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Speaker 1: new players. So here's some odds present and by draft

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Speaker 1: kings that struck my eye. To win the Southwest Division,

746
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Speaker 1: the Grizzlies have been a super heavy favorite. They still

747
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Speaker 1: are minus five fifty. The MAVs four and a half

748
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Speaker 1: games behind the grizz there at plus five fifty. That's

749
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Speaker 1: a huge swing. But the Dallas Mavericks just got Kyrie

750
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Speaker 1: Irving and Memphis has lost eight of its last nine.

751
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Speaker 1: So what are your odds? Guys, who do you think

752
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Speaker 1: comes out of that division? Do you think the MAVs

753
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Speaker 1: or the Grizzlies are gonna end with a better record?

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Speaker 1: I think the Grizzlies are again. I think they've hit

755
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Speaker 1: a rough patch and in the dog days of the season. Um,

756
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Speaker 1: we still feel there there there possibly a player away

757
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Speaker 1: from winning a championship. But they're still good enough to

758
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Speaker 1: win the Western Conference, I feel, um And with all

759
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Speaker 1: due respect to the adding of Kyrie Irving, I don't

760
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Speaker 1: I still don't know with with that move, and that's

761
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: a hell of a move. I don't know if Dallas

762
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: can still win the Western Conference. And I could be wrong.

763
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Speaker 1: Lucas Lucas Amaniac and Kyrie could be a maniac two

764
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765
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Speaker 1: same time, I just feel like Memphis has a better team.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going through a rough stretch right now.

767
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to shake this. Think they'll

768
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Speaker 1: be able to humble themselves and come back and get

769
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Speaker 1: back to playing good basketball and they can represent the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference. I just don't know if they have enough

771
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Speaker 1: to win it. I wouldn't say Dallas is a better team,

772
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Speaker 1: but I think the jig is up on Memphis. I

773
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Speaker 1: think yeah, I think yeah. I just think they ain't

774
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: fooling nobody no more. Race Like like there was a

775
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: surprise to a lot of people. They walk into a

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00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: lot of us people like, yeah, they talking, but can

777
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Speaker 1: they really do it? So they're surprising a lot of teams.

778
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think the they

779
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Speaker 1: can go in they hire with what they have. I

780
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: think they're gonna, they're gonna they're stuck right there where

781
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: they are with Dallas, it's a new excitement. You know,

782
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: they might not have the better team than Memphis, but

783
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: it's a new excitement. You got to two better players

784
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: with Kyrie and Luca and no telling what they can do.

785
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Luca has will Dallas to a lot of wins without Kira.

786
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Just imagine what he can do with him. Wow, that's

787
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot. That's bold on Memphis. I'm interested

788
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: to see what happens now. You got my Jack. As always,

789
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: we got to hit our legendary moment presented by top

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791
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Speaker 1: ton of memorable moments and All Stars, Matt, what is

792
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Speaker 1: your most memorable All Star moment? When Magic Johnson came

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Speaker 1: back after pronouncing HIV positive, I think it was in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: He came back and when the m v P um,

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Speaker 1: you know him being my favorite player growing up. That

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Speaker 1: was my number one. Also, it gives me chills to

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Speaker 1: even say it right now, and the fact that we

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Speaker 1: just had him on you know, the show not too

799
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Speaker 1: long ago. But yeah, definitely Magic Johnson coming back after

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Speaker 1: retiring and win an m v P. Jolani's in the

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Speaker 1: room here with me. By the way, he just raised

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Speaker 1: both of his arms up high, so he got an endorsements.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, you already know what edition showtime? What

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Speaker 1: in the Rookie All Star Game. I think the best

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Speaker 1: All Star game was. I got a chance to see

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Speaker 1: Stephan all and is prone the team together, something that

808
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: the whole world wanted to see. They was down like

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Speaker 1: fifth eighty points in the fourth quarter with a small

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00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,000
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Speaker 1: It was one of the most competitive All Star games

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00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and everybody just expected the West to

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Speaker 1: win because of the stack team they had. But it

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Speaker 1: was a great Austin, great experience in DC. Jeff who

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who was on those teams. Who was

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Speaker 1: on well, I think the East. The East it was

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Speaker 1: you know the West had Tim Knock. They had all

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Speaker 1: billion dollars. That's with a B, so Baron made out.

851
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 1: Kobe invested six million into body Armor, apparently the lesson

852
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: this year invest in sports drinks. Body Armor sold one

853
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: for eight billion dollars and Kobe earned four hundred million

854
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: dollars from that investment. Carmelo Anthony invested five hundred k

855
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: in Mophy you know the phone chargers company, right, so

856
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: he got right when they were starting out. He like

857
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: was an angel and mr. Nine years later Apple buys them,

858
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Mellow cashes out from a five thousand dollar investment, he

859
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: made five million. Uh. And then you've got Lebron James

860
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: two thousand eight. He was asked to where the Beats

861
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: headphones in exchange for a small steak in the company.

862
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: And we all know the end of that story. Gentlemen,

863
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Apple again bought Lebron made about thirty millions millions just

864
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: to put them on. Right, is that insane? I don't

865
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: know if he's the winner of all that might be

866
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: Lebron right, because he didn't even have to put any

867
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: money down. He just made thirty millions putting some money.

868
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: Players are doing that a lot more than when you

869
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: guys played. Although man, I feel like you're into everything. Yeah,

870
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean nothing big like these these big dogs. And

871
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: then we also forget guys like Junior Bridgeman who did

872
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: didn't know the food chains and and and who made

873
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Vinnie Johnson from the Detroit Pistons

874
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: is the monster out in Detroit, you know, with his

875
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: his car. So I just think it's encouraging and and

876
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: it's dope, and it's I feel like now players are

877
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: It's when Jack and I were in the locker room.

878
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: We weren't talking about investing. We were talking about um, cars, clothes, jewelry, women.

879
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that that was next women, houses, you know, all

880
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff after that long yeah so yeah,

881
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, so it definitely wasn't you know, what are

882
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: you investing in? And all this kind of strategic cool

883
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: stuff where it made financial literacy cool. So I just

884
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: think these are great stories to continue to encourage some

885
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: of these younger guys to like, yo, basketball is dope,

886
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: but it's just the tip of the iceberg. And and

887
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, continue to, you know, look up to guys

888
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: like this and and and soak up games, surround yourself

889
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: with people, and and and invest in understanding that the

890
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: power in like Lebron, you are your own business. A

891
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: lot of times for these younger guys, you don't have

892
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: to put a ton of money and if any, because

893
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: you are you know, you're such a huge catch. I

894
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many companies I'm in just for

895
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: being me. And I wasn't even the star. So just

896
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: that you know, these young up and coming stars, man,

897
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: just continue to you know, and and and this even

898
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: goes back to job, you know, just continue to move

899
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: the right way because you know, you represent brands, you know,

900
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: and you're supermarketable. You're the new wave, You're it. It's

901
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: going to be your NBA one day. So just understand

902
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: big picture, man, and and and just know that basketball

903
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. Yeah. Man, it's funny. You know

904
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: you run into people who are in basketball fans, right,

905
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: and they ask you things. Uh, someone asked me the

906
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: other day how the UM card dealer guy was doing

907
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: to the Lakers. It took me a long time to

908
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: figure out who that was. And they were talking about

909
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: wrestling Russ Right, doesn't Rust have car dealerships? Yeah, I mean, dudes,

910
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: dudes are doing a bunch of dopes it just before

911
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: we go, guys, we gotta hit Lebron. Now. We're taping

912
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: this on Tuesday morning. I don't know when everyone out

913
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: there is watching or listening to it, but as of today,

914
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: Lebron still needs thirty six points to pass Kareem. Lakers

915
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: are at home tonight against the thunder Matt You had

916
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: asked producer Nate over here to see what the odds

917
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: were for this historic feat by Lebron, and I want

918
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: to show them to you. DraftKings is giving plus one

919
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: thirty if he breaks it tonight. Mine is to five

920
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: if he does it on Thursday. And I do have

921
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: to note, okay, see is on the second night of

922
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: the back to back. They were up in the bay

923
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: last night Clay Thompson dropped forty two on them. So

924
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: do they bounce back? You night wanted to prove something

925
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: and not want to be the team that Lebron breaks

926
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: the record against? Or what does does Labron do it

927
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: Tuesday night against Oklahoma? Se? I don't think so. I

928
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: think Lebron is you know, the Lroun is so strategic

929
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: and always looks a big picture. He's writ in his ending,

930
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: So why not wait till Thursday night nashally televised game

931
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: on T and T against Kareem's old team and do

932
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: it there? So I see Brun dropping you know, maybe

933
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: a nice twenty five tonight, uh and and and breaking

934
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: it against Milwaukee just just a bigger storyline. And you

935
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: gotta think he's always up to something as far as

936
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: writing his story. I you know you know what, man,

937
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think I think you're gonna do it

938
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: at home. It can't be it is at home that

939
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: games at home? Both yea, yeah, well yeah, well, no,

940
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Then I agree with you and

941
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: T and T Thursday night. So I think that's it's

942
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: the biggest stage if they if they both at home. Uh,

943
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I agree with y'all. Okay, see, ain't going want nobody

944
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: to come out just blast. They might let everybody on

945
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: their team use all six Today files and done a

946
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: lot to breakfast record. Uh and uh yeah, yea, yeah,

947
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: I agree with y'all. Geinst Milwaukee, man, I didn't think

948
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: about that against Kareem's old team. I gotta be I

949
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: gotta agree with you on that one. I think they'll Rachel, Oh,

950
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I was gonna say, could go ahead?

951
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: Now you have you have such a you know you

952
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: you're someone who has a good relationship with Kareem. What

953
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: do you think, um, this will will Kareem building in

954
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: the building? Do you have any insight on that it

955
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: will this be? Because we've heard in the past he's

956
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: not very happy. Even Magic said like, I don't think

957
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Kareem's gonna be happy with this. So as someone who

958
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: has a you know, a relationship and an open line

959
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: of communication, like, how do you feel like this? Will

960
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: you know this this will pass? Because these are two

961
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: greats in history, both Lakers. What are your thoughts? Yeah,

962
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, anything could happen, right, And if anyone

963
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: could pull off Kareem being in the building, it's Genie

964
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Buss because she has curtured those relationships for so long,

965
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: and maybe she went to Kareem and said, I need

966
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: you there, I want you there, please do it for

967
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: the Lakers organization. I would not guess that Kareem would

968
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: be in the building tonight just from what has gone

969
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: on between the two of them in the past. And

970
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's been Kareem's way. Um, but

971
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean there's been some really graceful passing

972
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: in the torch, right when Steph Curry broke the three

973
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: point record, and the way Reggie Miller was so just

974
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: gracious and amazing, and Ray Allen was so amazing during

975
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: that whole process with him. I don't anticipate the same

976
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: thing when Reggie different. Yeah, Reggie mill is different. Bro. Yeah. See,

977
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't know what. Maybe he's gonna

978
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: do it. I want him to do it tonight. I

979
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: want him to do it by scoring thirty six in

980
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: one night, because it's it's like comactic to me, Like,

981
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: I know it's a big T and T game. I

982
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: know it's Milwaukee Bucks like all that stuff, and then

983
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: you've got you know, the team Cream play for and

984
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: the other team Cream play for and all that stuff.

985
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know, do you really want him to

986
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: break it and on like the sixth point in the

987
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: first quarter, Like I want him to break in on

988
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: a game in the fourth quarter where it matters where

989
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: he's like dropped at age thirty nine, he's dropped nearly

990
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: forty points, Like that's that happens, right, That's more fun.

991
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: That would be dope. But I agree with you, I

992
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: think that would be dope. But I also think like

993
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: a big game against Milwaukee Weather wherever, whatever point he

994
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: gets it at and they end up winning, like a

995
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: thrilling game in l A, you know what I mean.

996
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I just think that you know, they could lose that game. Man,

997
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: There's no question they can lose both these games, Rachel,

998
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: They can lose both these games. So I think I

999
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: for more money on them winning a game where Lebron

1000
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: scores thirty six than on them winning a game against

1001
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Janice and Milwaukee. For Lebron has well he better do

1002
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: it against Okay, see there, because it ain't no problem.

1003
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Is that Mike coming thereintet? Yeah, we can all dream,

1004
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: We'll see I don't know, all right, guys, thank you

1005
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: so much for being here today. Uh you know What's burning?

1006
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1007
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