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Speaker 1: Guess what, mango? What's that?

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Speaker 2: Will?

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Speaker 3: Do you hear about this super pizza they invented in

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Speaker 3: England a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was just reading about it again.

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Speaker 2: No, but I did get a note from a very

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Speaker 2: sweet listener asking me to stop using the word super

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Speaker 2: so much, and I was thinking for today's episode, I

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Speaker 2: just used the word top notch instead. So tell me

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Speaker 2: about this top notch pizza.

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Speaker 3: That's a good word, manco Well, super pizza was developed

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Speaker 3: at Glasgow University and it's this frozen pizza that has

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Speaker 3: seaweed baked into the crust and then the sauce is

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Speaker 3: boosted with nutrients. And the whole idea is that, because

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Speaker 3: it has a third of your daily vitamins and minerals,

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Speaker 3: you could actually eat pizza for breakfast, lunch and dinner

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Speaker 3: and be somewhat healthy.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. But how's it taste?

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess top notch as you might say, now,

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Speaker 3: I think like pretty good from what I've read online. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: reading about it made me wonder if you had to

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Speaker 3: pare your pantry down to the bare minimum, what are

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Speaker 3: the only foods you'd need to survive? And that's what

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Speaker 3: today's episode is all about Hey their podcast listeners, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as always

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Speaker 3: I'm joined by my good friend Mangesh hot Ticketter and

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Speaker 3: sitting behind that soundproof booth baking some tiny but delicious

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Speaker 3: pastries and his easy bake oven as our producer Tristan McNeil.

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Speaker 1: Where did he get that?

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Speaker 2: What is that? Tristan? Are those tiny croissants?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listener, those are tiny croissants?

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Speaker 1: Won a tiny croissant? That's so good?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Well, for today's show, we decided to do a little

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Speaker 3: thought experiment. Basically, we want to know if you were

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Speaker 3: going to limit your daily diet to only a handful

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Speaker 3: what should you eat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was pretty sure the answer is going to

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Speaker 2: be flaming hot cheetos. But apparently the answer is not

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Speaker 2: flaming hot Cheetoh. I don't think it is, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: this really isn't what snacks you couldn't go without, so

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Speaker 2: much as the stuff you couldn't live without plus three

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Speaker 2: times Cheetos have. It couldn't be that healthy for you.

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think the idea here is to

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Speaker 3: concentrate on building the most restricted diet we can, using

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Speaker 3: foods that are nutritious enough to actually keep you alive.

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Speaker 3: And along the way, we'll explore the reasons why some

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Speaker 3: people actually strive for a lack of variety in what

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Speaker 3: some of the craziest restrictive diets that people have ever

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Speaker 2: To, speaking which will also be joined by Andrew Taylor.

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Speaker 2: He's the Australian man who declared twenty sixteen to be

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Speaker 2: the Year the Spud and then he commemorated it by

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Speaker 2: eating nothing but potatoes for three hundred and sixty six days.

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Speaker 1: Oh and he chose a leapier to do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now he's written a book called The DIY

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Speaker 2: Spud Fit Challenge, and it dares readers to change their

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Speaker 2: So we'll find out what possessed him to do this

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Speaker 2: in the first place, and why potatoes, of all things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so weird.

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Speaker 3: I feel like growing up, potatoes were considered a healthy vegetable,

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Speaker 2: I know, it's so weird how these things go back

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Speaker 2: their cholesterol and that debate, and it's just so strange

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Speaker 2: like that we can't decide to just do this in moderation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the strange part is that it almost feels

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Speaker 3: we've mentioned this before, but Americans have never had such

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know this isn't food related, but for

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Speaker 2: a while I was enamored with this idea of having

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Speaker 2: He liked the idea being if you're not using your

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Speaker 2: the day. But I know a number of successful people

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Speaker 1: Or ramen from downstairs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just eat that every day because something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, time and efficiency. That's definitely one

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Speaker 2: How's that?

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Speaker 3: Well, according to Pop's side quote, the impetus of a

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll definitely talk a little bit about food science

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Speaker 2: and efforts to pack foods with more nutrients. And of

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Speaker 2: course there's also this trend of monodiets where people eat

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Speaker 2: People do this with bananas or watermelon, or in the

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Speaker 2: and it's supposedly to shock his body into weight loss.

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Speaker 3: I have to say that it just sounds so miserab,

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Speaker 3: but I guess they're all sorts of ways to eat

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder how many people were inspired

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Speaker 1: I never heard that before, I know.

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Speaker 2: And then there's like Balls, who had fifty cups of

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Speaker 1: I don't actually think I do.

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Speaker 2: But I know I took us off track. Nutrition has

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Speaker 2: definitely worn against mono diets, but sometimes that dieting can't

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Speaker 1: So what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: Well, it can also be psychological like that. There was

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Speaker 2: in England who'd been hooked on chicken nuggets. She'd been

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Speaker 2: nuggets for like fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot less funny. So she did she have

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Speaker 2: And the sadder part is that her mother couldn't even

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Speaker 3: You know, what you're describing sounds way more than just

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Speaker 3: hankering for chicken nuggets. I mean, it actually sounds more

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Speaker 2: M And in some cases people are like highly selective

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Speaker 1: She was also British. That's what the Brits and they're nuggets.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, but in this woman's case, she

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Speaker 2: But after visiting a hypnotherapist in London for a single hour,

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Speaker 1: Very bad idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it works for pets. Ruby has

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Speaker 3: You know, I know they're economic and political implications of

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Speaker 2: So I've never heard of that. What's that mean?

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Speaker 3: So basically, the more you eat of a specific food,

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Speaker 2: Which it explains why kids always complain when they're full

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what's happening there. And researchers think sensory specific

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Speaker 2: That's so much fruit, so wasn't Steve Jobs a fruitarian?

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of counterintuitive, right, like to think of

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Speaker 2: Well, we should definitely get into what ten foods we'd

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Speaker 3: So Mengo I know today we're talking about limiting diets

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. It was an experiment really to

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Speaker 4: So I chose to potato is after a lot of research.

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Speaker 4: I had all kinds of potatoes. Yeah, I didn't want to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I had mashed to tatoes and rockets. I think

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Speaker 4: got the protein. Like I mentioned, they've got a small

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Speaker 4: amount of fat, which is enough to give the body

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Speaker 4: what it needs, especially when you're carrying extra fat like

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Speaker 4: I was. And yeah, they've got a really good balance

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Speaker 4: of all the other vitamins and minerals that we need too.

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Speaker 4: So you know, my blood tests were getting better through

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Speaker 4: the whole year, and I was really getting everything I

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Speaker 4: need from this diet. So yeah, no complaints there.

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Speaker 2: So I was curious how your marriage was affected by this,

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Speaker 2: and what were you spending more time on instead of

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Speaker 2: just cooking and thinking about food.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my marriage was only affected in positive ways. My

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Speaker 4: life was really supportive, And before I started this, I

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Speaker 4: have no stace to say that I gave one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent of everything I had to being the best husband

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Speaker 4: I could and being the best father I could. But

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Speaker 4: you know, I was clinically depressed and one hundred and

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Speaker 4: twenty pounds more than I am now, and so you know,

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent then is not the same as one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent now. So I'm able to give more these days,

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Speaker 4: which means my marriage, and my life has only been

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Speaker 4: affected in positive ways. Yeah, so no complaints there, and

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Speaker 4: my wife was really supported from the start. It's amazing

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Speaker 4: how much time and space food takes up in your life,

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Speaker 4: for you know, thinking about it, planning and preparing it,

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Speaker 4: shopping for it, cooking and cleaning up after it. All that.

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Speaker 4: You don't realize how much time and effort and energy

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Speaker 4: that all takes up until you remove it from your life. Basically, So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've added a lot into my life. I'm doing a

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Speaker 4: lot more exercise, and really I guess most of my

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Speaker 4: extra time and attention has just gone into having fun

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Speaker 4: with my loss and my boy. And you know, the

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Speaker 4: time I'm used to spend thinking about and planning and

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Speaker 4: all that, it's it's just spent on enjoying myself with them.

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Speaker 4: I'll wrestle with my little boy and read books and

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Speaker 4: night jokes and you know, we go walking and playing

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Speaker 4: in the playground and it's just all the little things

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Speaker 4: in lost. But just got a little bit of extra

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Speaker 4: focus for me. That's it's time to say that there's

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Speaker 4: one particular thing. It's just across the board. I get

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Speaker 4: a little bit more time for each of the more

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Speaker 4: positive experiences in loss.

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Speaker 2: That's so, that's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Well, Andrew, this has just been fascinating and congratulations on

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Speaker 3: your success with this. I really admire what you've accomplished.

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Speaker 3: And as you've put it before, it's it's not about

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Speaker 3: the potato.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: You can check out Andrew's book, The DIY spud Fit

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Speaker 3: Challenge on Amazon or visit him online at spudfit dot com. Andrew,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me. It's same fun and yeah,

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Speaker 4: good luck with everything you guys do.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to part Time Genus and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: how to get by on the least number of foods possible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, mango.

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Speaker 3: So, after talking to Andrew, I think we're in agreement

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Speaker 3: that potatoes belong on our list of the only foods

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Speaker 3: you'll ever need.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, there are twenty amino acids that humans

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Speaker 2: need to survive, and while our bodies produce most of

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Speaker 2: those foras, there are nine essential acids that we only

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Speaker 2: get from foods we eat. And although most foods supply

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Speaker 2: at least a couple of those essential aminos, white potatoes

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Speaker 2: can actually get you there in one go.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny that potatoes don't get the coveted superfood

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Speaker 3: moniker like some of the others do. But I agree

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Speaker 3: with you on this. I mean, they belong in the card.

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Speaker 3: And of course white potatoes aren't enough on their own,

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Speaker 3: since they lack some of the much needed minerals and vitamins.

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Speaker 1: You know, we think about vitamins A and E, and.

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Speaker 3: As Andrew points out, a true potatotarian, I guess if

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Speaker 3: that's a word, they would need to add sweet potatoes

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Speaker 3: to the mix in order to survive long term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sweet potato footnote really made me wonder how

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Speaker 2: the Irish made it through that famine in the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Roughly a third of the population lived mostly on plain

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Speaker 2: potatoes during those lean years, but I don't think they

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Speaker 2: were farming sweet potatoes. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was actually curious about this as well, so I

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Speaker 3: decided to do a little digging into this. And the

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Speaker 3: traditional go to meal for the Irish peasants has been potatoes, milk, oats, beans,

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Speaker 3: and bread. But you know, by the time the famine struck,

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Speaker 3: most peasants had to sell their milk supplied just to

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Speaker 3: make rent, so their meals dwindled to potatoes, salted fish,

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Speaker 3: and oatmeal.

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Speaker 2: And that was enough to keep them going for the

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Speaker 2: most part.

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Speaker 1: It actually was.

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Speaker 3: I mean that the fish would have been high in

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Speaker 3: protein and calcium, plus some of the important minerals and vitamins.

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Speaker 3: But the real saving gray, surprisingly.

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Speaker 1: Was actually the oatmeal.

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Speaker 3: You see, even on a diet that included both white

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Speaker 3: and sweet potatoes, you'd still be lacking a crucial mineral.

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Speaker 3: And I have a heart time pronouncing this mineral, but

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Speaker 3: it's called molybdenum.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's heard of it, and I don't think anybody can

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Speaker 3: say it, and it's often called the most important element

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Speaker 3: you've never heard of. So basically, without molybdenum, your body

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Speaker 3: would be unable to break down the sul fights and

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Speaker 3: turn them into usable sources of energy. And since soul

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Speaker 3: fights are naturally found in so many foods we eat,

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Speaker 3: including potatoes, most foods would eventually kill you without it,

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Speaker 3: you know, in order to take care of the sul fights.

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Speaker 3: But thankfully, we really don't need all that much of

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Speaker 3: the mineral. In fact, the recommended daily allowance for it

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Speaker 3: is only about forty five micrograms, so a little oatmeal

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Speaker 3: actually does the trick.

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Speaker 1: And you just ask the Irish.

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Speaker 2: Or the Scots for that matter. And while researching, I

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Speaker 2: found that the cornerstones of a traditional Scottish diet where potatoes, oatmeal,

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Speaker 2: milk and kale. And now I'm actually thinking they all

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Speaker 2: should have a place on our list.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty great comba.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could probably get by on those four

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Speaker 3: a loan if you had to. Though, I think you

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Speaker 3: could make the case for swapping oats for barley just

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Speaker 3: because it has the same essential vitamins and minerals as

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Speaker 3: the other grains, but it also helps to manage those

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Speaker 3: cholesterol levels.

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Speaker 4: Hm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got a pretty good list going here.

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Speaker 2: We've got white and sweet potatoes as well as oats

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Speaker 2: or barley, and now we're adding milk and kale. And

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Speaker 2: of course I'm kind of sick of hearing people talk

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Speaker 2: about kill these days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know what you mean on this.

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Speaker 3: So it does kind of live up to its reputation though.

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Speaker 3: It can help with everything from cardiovascular support to the

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Speaker 3: fight against things like arthritis or asthma or diabetes, even cancer.

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Speaker 1: It's been shown in some studies.

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Speaker 3: Plus it's super rich and vitamins and minerals. I know

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Speaker 3: it said super and.

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Speaker 2: Fibers, I know, but I feel like I'm in a

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Speaker 2: kale ad.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean mango.

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Speaker 3: A single one hundred gram serving of kale contains way

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Speaker 3: more than the recommended daily allowance for let's see here,

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Speaker 3: vitamin C, vitamin A, and vitamin K, and you can

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Speaker 3: order some using the coupon code kale dot com slash genius.

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Speaker 2: So to be clear, that's a fake coupon code, not

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Speaker 2: on the kale lobby's doll And while kale has plenty

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Speaker 2: going for it, it's not without its drawbacks.

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Speaker 1: Really, So so why is that?

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Speaker 2: Well, rackcale can be extremely tough on the digestive system,

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Speaker 2: and even cooked kale can lead to hypothyroidism. That's if

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Speaker 2: you eat too much of it and all that vitamin

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Speaker 2: K you mentioned. I mean, it's great in moderation, but

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Speaker 2: too much can lead to the formation of blood clots.

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Speaker 2: So if you're already dealing with blood clots, or if

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Speaker 2: you're on a blood thinning medication, you might want to

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Speaker 2: sub in spinach instead.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's weird how it all gets more complicated

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Speaker 3: than you'd think even with something like kale. But you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, still milk seems like a safe bet for

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Speaker 3: the list. If you drink vitamin D fortified whole milk,

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Speaker 3: your body's getting a lot of what it needs right there.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's got carbs, protein, potassium, all the essential amino acids,

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Speaker 3: and of course, as we know, calcium.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much the only things missing are fiber. And apparently

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Speaker 1: it's so hard for me to say molybdenum.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, all right, So so grains and greens and

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Speaker 3: potatoes still need to be on the menu to get

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Speaker 3: your nutrition fixed.

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Speaker 1: But it really is.

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Speaker 3: Amazing how close any one of these foods can get

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Speaker 3: you to a pretty healthy diet.

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Speaker 2: It is, and I know we already debunk the monodiet,

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Speaker 2: but there actually is one food that succeeds at delivering

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Speaker 2: the complete nutritional package all on its own. And that's

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Speaker 2: better than an all potato diet and way way better

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Speaker 2: than the all chicken nugget diet.

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Speaker 1: Do you like chicken nuggets for that?

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Speaker 3: Now I'm curious, sorry, So what's this amazing mystery food?

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Speaker 2: Milk or specifically human milk. So, according to Joanne Hattner,

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Speaker 2: a nutrition consultant at Stanford and former national spokesperson for

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Speaker 2: the American Dietetic Association. Mother's milk is a complete food

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Speaker 2: that means it's calorically sufficient and contains a little bit

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Speaker 2: of all the vitamins, minerals, and amino acids that we need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're talking about for babies though, right, Like

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Speaker 3: adults couldn't survive on breast milk, could they.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the catch. Even though all the vital nutrients

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Speaker 2: are in there, they don't occur in high enough amounts

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Speaker 2: to sustain an adult. In fact, that that's why we

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Speaker 2: ultimately add solid foods to infant diet so that we

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Speaker 2: can eef up the amount of iron and other nutrients

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Speaker 2: that they receive. And technically, though anyone could survive solely

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Speaker 2: on mother's milk, provided they were able to you know, source.

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Speaker 1: Enough of it, Well, I don't think that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: thank god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So our best bed is to stick to

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Speaker 2: other mammal milks like cows or goats, And if the

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Speaker 2: milk's for menage or you know, like a yogurt, that's

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Speaker 2: all the better because the added bacteria can do wonders

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Speaker 2: for our digestive tracks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to part time Genius.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Earlier we harped on fruitarians quite a.

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Speaker 3: Bit, so I do want to make sure we give

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Speaker 3: fruit it's doe and include at least one on our list. Now,

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00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: the problem is, there's so many tasty fruits and pretty

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Speaker 3: much all of them are good for you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna leave it to you, Maga, what's your pick?

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone knows by now that I have a soft

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Speaker 2: spot for bananas, and thanks to their high levels a

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Speaker 2: potassium and fiber and lack of fat or salt, they're

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Speaker 2: not a bad choice. They are pretty sugary, though, and

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Speaker 2: a little weak in the calorie department. For example, have

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Speaker 2: you heard of this YouTube phenomena Freely the Banana Girl.

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Speaker 1: I can't say that's on my list YouTube channels I watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's this Australian social media darling and she practices

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Speaker 2: a mono diet of just bananas, and since the average

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Speaker 2: banana only contains one hundred calories or so, Freely scarfs

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Speaker 2: down fifty plus bananas every day to keep her energy.

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Speaker 1: Up every day. Yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So of course we'd be supplementing our fruit with

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Speaker 2: other things. On our list, so we wouldn't have to

662
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Speaker 2: eat quite as many. But if we're trying to stick

663
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Speaker 2: to just one kind of fruit, they're probably better options.

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Speaker 3: Well, why don't we go the other way for a minute,

665
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Speaker 3: and it maybe choose a high calorie fruit like avocados.

666
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Speaker 3: I mean they have fiber and potassium like bananas do,

667
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Speaker 3: plus vitamin E, plenty of healthy fats that help keep

668
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Speaker 3: inflammation and cholesterol and check they're just overall healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that definitely works. And avocados are great for breakfast

670
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Speaker 2: or lunch or dinner, and they're more versatile than bananas,

671
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Speaker 2: I guess. But another strong choice would be some kind

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Speaker 2: of berry, and any kind really. Blueberries and pomegranates are

673
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Speaker 2: popular choices because they're all packed with antioxidants and tons

674
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Speaker 2: of vitamin C. But I actually read this article in

675
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Speaker 2: Business Insider that ranked the nutritional value of a bunch

676
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Speaker 2: of berries, and the one that topped the list was

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Speaker 2: one I never would have thought elderberries.

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Speaker 1: An elderberry. Never would have thought if you ever had

679
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Speaker 1: an elderberry. I actually haven't had an elderberry.

680
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Speaker 2: But apparently at elderberries surpassed their cousins in potassium and

681
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Speaker 2: iron and fiber, and now also vitamin B six and see.

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Speaker 2: And the only problem is that eating too many raw

683
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Speaker 2: ones can actually make you sick, so you'd have to

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Speaker 2: cook them down into a syrup. But if you want

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Speaker 2: to go with the second best berry, that happens to

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Speaker 2: be the BlackBerry.

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Speaker 3: I have had that type of berry and they're very good,

688
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Speaker 3: and it's definitely easier to find blackberries too. I'm actually

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Speaker 3: not sure I've ever seen an elderberry in a grocery store.

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Speaker 3: All right, so fruits, veggies, grains, starch, and dairy are

691
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Speaker 3: covered on our list, and now we need a dedicated protein.

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Speaker 3: Tempting to go with something like a decadent steak, but

693
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Speaker 3: you know, anything besides an ultraline cut is going to

694
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Speaker 3: provide more saturated fat and cholesterol than you really want

695
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Speaker 3: when we're trying to come up with a.

696
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Speaker 1: List like this, so I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Instead, I say we take another page from the Irish

698
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Speaker 3: and opt for maybe surf instead of turf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds smart. So what are you thinking?

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Speaker 3: Well, any fish is going to offer protein and healthy fat,

701
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Speaker 3: but you really can't do much better than salmon. I know,

702
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: we talked about kale earlier in the greens category, and

703
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: much like that, salmon has been the it thing within

704
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Speaker 3: its category.

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Speaker 1: It's been the it fish for a while now, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Loaded with high quality protein, not to mention vitamin B

707
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: twelve and minerals like potassium and selenium. You know, while

708
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: salmon is a fattier fish, most of that comes from

709
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Speaker 3: Omega three fatty acids, and those help promote healthy brain function,

710
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: They reduce joint inflammation, and they strengthen your heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, salmon's a strong pick. But in case any

712
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Speaker 2: vegetarians are listening, we should point out a few guilt

713
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Speaker 2: free alternatives for protein, and thankfully there are a ton

714
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Speaker 2: of them, like bean pulses, nuts, and seeds. They're all

715
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Speaker 2: fantastic protein choices, and they're much easier to carry, store,

716
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Speaker 2: or even prepare than animal proteins.

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Speaker 3: Assuming that you pair them appropriately to make a complete protein,

718
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Speaker 3: like in the case of beans, pairing them with rice.

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Speaker 3: That's right, all right, So what would you say are

720
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Speaker 3: the best of the best for the plant based proteins?

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Speaker 2: Well, and this might be biased. According to the Bean Institute,

722
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Speaker 2: which apparently is a thing, beans contained between twenty one

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Speaker 2: percent and twenty five percent protein by weight, and since

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Speaker 2: that's much higher than other sources of vegetable protein, you know,

725
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Speaker 2: the nut or seed options. I'd go with beans and

726
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: different beans packed different amounts of protein and other minerals,

727
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Speaker 2: with black beans, kidney beans, pinto, and soy tending to

728
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Speaker 2: provide the most. But that's the beauty of beans. No

729
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Speaker 2: matter which one you go with, it's going to be

730
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Speaker 2: a good source of protein and fiber, and it'll also

731
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Speaker 2: be fat free, sodium free, and cholesterol.

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Speaker 1: Fruit looks like beans for the wind. It felt like

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Speaker 1: you said beans a lot.

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Speaker 3: I do want to mention though, that, just like with

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Speaker 3: eating too many fruits or or something like kale, there

736
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Speaker 3: is so thing as too much protein. It's actually called

737
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Speaker 3: protein poisoning, or some people call it rabbit starvation. I'd

738
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Speaker 3: never heard of this, but just saw it in the research,

739
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Speaker 3: and it occurs when forty five percent or more of

740
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Speaker 3: your calorie intake is derived from protein. And the nickname

741
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Speaker 3: actually has nothing to do with malnourished bunnies or anything

742
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: like that. It comes from the early North American explorers

743
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Speaker 3: who sometimes survive solely on lean proteins such as rabbits,

744
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Speaker 3: and this would happen for weeks at a time, and

745
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Speaker 3: that I had often led to starvation because a person's

746
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Speaker 3: liver it can only process so many calories from lean proteins. Yeah,

747
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Speaker 3: so remember, no matter where you get your protein, don't

748
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Speaker 3: overdo it. The bulk of your calories should be coming

749
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Speaker 3: from fats and carbs and not protein.

750
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good tip. So there you have it.

751
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: There are two kinds of potatoes on our list, oats

752
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: or barley, kaylor spinach, milk or yogurt, avocados or berries

753
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: and salmon or beans. And if you have extra room,

754
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: maybe a package of flaming hot Cheetos.

755
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would cover all of your nutritional bases. Again,

756
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: whether you want to or even whether you should stick

757
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: to a limited diet like this, that's a whole different matter,

758
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Speaker 3: maybe for a different episode one.

759
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Speaker 2: Day totally, because while it makes sense on paper that

760
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: we can restrict our diets, that's not really how things

761
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: play out in real life. So, for example, there was

762
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Speaker 2: a study in two thousand and two where researchers took

763
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: data from fifty nine thousand women and found that those

764
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: who alternated sixteen to seventeen healthy foods through the diet

765
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: had a forty two percent lower mortality rate than those

766
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Speaker 2: who regularly ate between zero to eight healthy foods. So

767
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: even if you're eating mostly healthy foods like the ones

768
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Speaker 2: we listened today, you'll still be at a disadvantage if

769
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Speaker 2: you aren't varying what you eat.

770
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that actually tracks with an article I read

771
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Speaker 3: by a dietitian at Glasgow Caledonian University.

772
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Speaker 1: Her name is Jenny Jackson.

773
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: And she openly ad meants that while we know a

774
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Speaker 3: diet that includes a variety of vegetables is healthier than

775
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: eating just a few, we actually don't know exactly why

776
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: that's the case. As she puts it, quote, we don't

777
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: really know which foods are causing which effects. So while

778
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: you could work out exactly what you needed from macro nutrients,

779
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: you don't know exactly what you might be missing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'd say the real strength of a thought experiment like

782
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: this is that it reminds us of the practical purpose

783
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: food serves. I mean, humans have evolved to value the

784
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: taste of food and the experience of eating way more

785
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: than any other species, which of course I'm grateful for,

786
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: But that focus on the sensory it can distract us

787
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: from food's true purpose, as feel for our lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

789
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Speaker 3: And you know, at a time when people are so

790
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: wrapped up with food as a social experience or as

791
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: a form of entertainment instagramming What's on your plate or

792
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: writing reviews on Yelp, but it is a little sobering

793
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: to think about food as this basic necessity. But picking

794
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: apart the pros and cons of individual foods, it does

795
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: give you a sense of not only what we're putting

796
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: in our bodies, but why we're doing it.

797
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: That's definitely true. But you know, one thing you can

798
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: always safely consume without having to overthink it.

799
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Speaker 1: I'm really hoping this is not about breast milk.

800
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Speaker 2: Again, they're part time genius fact off And what do

801
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: you say, Because we're both surprised by how nutritious the

802
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: potato is, we turned this into the Potato Edition.

803
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good to me.

804
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: So. According to a history of Greece, I found, there's

805
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: an often told story that, in order to popularize potatoes

806
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: in eighteen twenty eight, new governor Johnny Kappadistas tried to

807
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: give potatoes away, but the people were totally uninterested. So

808
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: we've placed armed guards in front of a shipment as

809
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: they were loaded off docks to make them seem more important.

810
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: And when the guards turned away or left their positions,

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Speaker 2: people just stole the potatoes. And that's how the potatoes

812
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: popularity spread there.

813
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, But what's strange is that it isn't the

814
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: first time leaders tried to convince people to eat potatoes.

815
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Speaker 3: According to an article in Mental Floss, quote in the

816
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: late seventeen hundreds, in an effort to inspire their starving

817
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: subjects to plant the newly introduced vegetable, Marie Antoinette wore

818
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: potato flowers in her hair, and her husband, King Louis

819
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: the sixteenth wore them in his buttonholes. Move launched a

820
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: new fad, convincing French nobility to start wearing potato flowers.

821
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: The plant didn't have the intended effect. The lower classes

822
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 3: resented the propaganda and spurned the plant.

823
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: So did you know that potato parties used to be

824
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: a thing in Japan and South Korea? Like teenagers would

825
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: go into McDonald's order two hundred dollars or more of

826
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: fries and then just spread them out on tables to

827
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: eat while they hung out.

828
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Speaker 1: Actually, that sounds pretty delicious to me.

829
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Speaker 4: I want to admit that.

830
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Well, did you know that mister Potato had was the

831
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: first toy advertised on television.

832
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten that. The craziest part to me was that

833
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: you actually used to provide your own potato.

834
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, since you knew that fact, how about this one?

835
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Speaker 3: Did you know that gardeners will sometimes put rose cuttings

836
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: into a potato, then plant the potato and the ground.

837
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: Why is that?

838
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, the potatoes full of nutrients, so it can actually

839
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: help the rose grow.

840
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: That's insane. Do you know that Garbachev's wife once tried

841
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: to impress a British minister by telling him that the

842
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: Soviets had more than three hundred ways to cook potatoes,

843
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: and when he doubted, she sent him a cookbook of

844
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: five hundred ways to cook a potato showed him.

845
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I mean, I guess with five hundred

846
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: recipes from Russia alone, we don't have to worry about

847
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: Pendulad and whether he gets his variety anymore. But all right,

848
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: I think because of that fact, I'm gonna let you

849
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: take home the championship belt this week. That's it for

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