1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Scarable advice shot. Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. 2 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, and I'm your host, Rob Shooster and on Thursday, 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: and dear friend Mark Lupo joins us. Hey Lupi are there, 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Lippy lewis here? Hi Rob, Hi LUPPI. I got a 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: warning email text about you last night. Somebody Mr Spotty? 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: You out drinking? She texted me. She said, did Mark 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: pre tape the show because he's having a very good time. 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know I love free wine. Right. We 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: were at at a hotel party, a very fancy party. 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: She looked beautiful and the wine was flowing. We had 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: a good time. We did, and she came over to 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: and said, I'm going to tell Shooter. I felt like 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: the school mistress. I know. I was all nervous when 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: she was. She definitely let me know, and I was like, 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm trouble. But you know what, they're as sloppy as 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: we could get a Mark. We can get sloppy. We 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: do do the work. It is a lesson out there 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: everybody when you see us out being ridiculous. I don't 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: think you can do that and get away of not 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: doing the work. It's not true. Even celebrities. When you 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: see celebrities out and you're like, oh, I'm gonna go 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: out and party, like did he did? He does the work? 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: Does the work. It's almost a terrible sort of lesson 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: to teach people because the truth of it is, celebrities 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: don't really want you to know how hard they work. 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: They really want the successful ones work really hard and 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: they're very focused. They're the same. But that's right. Beyonce 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: has the same twenty four hours that we do. I know, 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: I feel like she has extra hours because she gets 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: so much done. I know. This is a conversation with 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: my friends yesterday, but they were like, well, she has 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: twenty four assistance. But that's a good point. She does. 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: There's like twelve Beyonce is running around Miny Beyonce's who 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: she's trained. Like, yeah, a good point, Hey, les jump 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: into the show. What time is it, my friends? It 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: is tea time. We're going to do the work today. 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: So bad burs. Megan Markle's new podcast is getting slammed 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: by critics who are saying it's entirely preposterous and just 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: another way that she can talk about herself. So I 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: listened to it her first guest was Serena Williams the Telegraph. 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Celia Walden at the Telegraph. Kind of a fancy writer, 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: said an interviewer with this inspirational sporting figure in name only, 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: because basically Megan interviewed herself. She did do a lot 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: of talking about the podcast, and I'm guilty of that too, Mark. 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Let me give you some of the other comments too. 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: So the Spectators columnists said, it's hard to believe it 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: took twenty eight people and eight executive producers to make 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: one episode, plus megend eight executive producer. I mean that's 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: a that's a lot of staff. The Times said it 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: was a tastefully soundtracked raid of the nyalties, absurdities and 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: self grandizing. She got one star from another outlet. I 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: listened to it. Mark. You know the thing is, we 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: want Megan to gossip. We want her to tell us 54 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: about the palace. You can't be as famous as Megan 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: is for being married to really the most famous family 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: in the world, sorry Kardashians, and not talk about that. 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: So I just sat there listening and Serena's charming, Megan's charming. 58 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say what Kate was really like 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: or Matt william was not nice to me. I just 60 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: wanted one one little piece of information. She wouldn't do it. 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: She didn't do it. She wouldn't do it. And part 62 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: of me wonders that people on Spotify they probably feel 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: the same way. You know this, this deal was inked 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and it's reportedly worth more than fifteen million dollars. I'm 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: just not sure that the executives feel like they're getting 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: what they're paid for. Where when she was talking about 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: herself and her you know, and it's just it's robbing, 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: you know. It's like, I love Megan, I love her, 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: but it kind of felt a little out of touch. 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: And these women are worth many, many, many millions of 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: dollars and they're talking about things that just don't feel 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: relatable to them at this particular moment in time. Hey, 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: you're so smart. So as a producing yourself, Mark, if 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: you were producing the show and the episodes aired, and 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: now you can sit down with Megan and give notes. 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Often after a television show or a show, the executive producers, 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: the boss sits down with the team and gives notes. 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: What would you say to Megan? I would say, Megan, 79 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: it this is going to be an interview, then have 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: it be an interview. This was. This was every opportunity 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: she could. She talked about herself, and it just she 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: monopolized the conversation, which is fine. I like her, but 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: then don't build it as an interview and I would 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: tone it down. I would tone it down. People can't 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: relate to this kind of conversation. They really, they can't 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: relate to it. When people really rich people tell you 87 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: to know your worth, they don't know what it's like 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: to go in and ask for like a raise. They 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: don't know because you will be fired. If I walked 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: into my office and as for my worth, they laugh 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: in my face, and so it's really can't bliga. It 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: was not an interview either. It was and it shouldn't 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: have been. I think I would have said, maybe she's 94 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: not taken advice. That sometimes happens mark when huge celebrities 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: get their own TV show a podcast, they don't listen. Hey, 96 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the Kadi current show. People like that. 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: When they start a show, they're so famous, they're not 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: going to listen to anybody, and that's probably why the 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: show doesn't work. Well, it's funny, so they have twenty producer. 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: When it's rather show, it's a small it's a small staff. Okay, 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: we meet the show on the area. It's you and me, 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: it's Darby, my dog exactly. So we meet this goal 103 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: on every day. This show is on there every single day. 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Small staff. It's just you know, the little engine that could. 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: And I just maybe there's too many you know, cooks 106 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: in the kitchen for the show. Rosie Donald said that 107 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: when Rosie went on Watch What Happens Live, Andy Cohen 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: has a very small show, not just physically the producer 109 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: wise too. It's a small, tight team, but they run 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: it beautifully. It's a great show. Rosie was a guest 111 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: on his show, and she said, if ever I go 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: back to TV, that's what I want. I don't want 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: one of these big Today type shows or the View 114 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: with hundreds of people walking around working there. I think, Megan, 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you should sit down. And honestly, I know it's crazy 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: that we're given advice to Megan Mark or good we 117 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: have a top ten podcast, Mega Mark. I think we 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: did better than she did to day Mark. I know 119 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: it's shameful. I'm almost embarrassed on our own success here, 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: but I think the advice is what do you want 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: it to be? We all sat down, the five of us, 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: sat down, the five co hosts and myself. We all 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: went for a drink and we were like, let's make 124 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: it funny and silly. No politics. We said, no politics. 125 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: It's a funny, silly twenty minute of celebrity gossip. And 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: we do this for a living, so we're good at it. 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: We're going to make fun of celebrities in a naughty 128 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 1: but nice way. We're always a pinch, We're never a punch. 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: We knew who we were. I don't think Megan's figured 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: out quite what this podcast is. She's still talking about 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: it though. She said people are going to find and 132 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: discover the real, unfiltered me on this podcast. I don't 133 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: know if that's true. It feels very very produced. It does, 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: and I can tell you if you listen to this podcast. 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: You know. I've said before that I met Megan and 136 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: spent time with her before she really became famous for 137 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: being a royal. And she is a nice girl. She's 138 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: really really set, she's interesting, she has a lot of 139 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: great qualities that I admire. I just think I got 140 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: lost in this. I don't I don't feel like I 141 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: got that from her from this conversation. It felt to 142 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: me like she was playing the role of the duchess, 143 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: but she was very aware of the fact that she 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: wasn't just Megan anymore, and she's not. She's being truthful there. 145 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: She is a duchess now. It would be interested if 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: she talked about that. Can you ever just be Megan, 147 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: that California girl who married a prince? Like? That's how 148 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I think I would have started, And I think the 149 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: first episode should have been Megan and Harry. Harry Pope, 150 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Pope popped in, he poked his head in for for 151 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: a minute. But I think I would have got rid 152 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: of the reader. Amazing, You're an amazing guest, like any 153 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: book would kill to get to the reader Williams on 154 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the show. But I think for the first one I 155 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: would have just done Megan and Harry and would have 156 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: talked about what the show is going to be like 157 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: and what we want to do with this. I don't 158 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: know if people are coming back for weeks two. What's 159 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: a great point, because there's like twelve more weeks of this. 160 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: I can't start twelve more weeks of this. I just 161 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: can't stand. I can't. I can't, but I will be there. 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Is it fixable? Now? You've worked on lots of shows, Mark, 163 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: some really good ones and so not quite so good. 164 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Can you turn the ship around? I do think it's possible. 165 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I think sometimes shows do struggle the other a rough start, 166 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: but when you recognize that things need to be changed, 167 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: they take the feedback and you listen to the people. 168 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: You listen to me and Rob. I think I think 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: there's hope. I really do think there's Do you think 170 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: she's listening. I don't think she's listening. Are you know 171 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: where that finished? When she finished tape and she said 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: to SERENA great show. Oh god, that was so great. 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, all the producers were like champagne, Meg. So 174 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I've been on shows also Broadway type shows plays, musicals 175 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: where after the first rehearsal, everybody in the room is like, well, 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: this is not very good, and that the castle and 177 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: producers are like I far Ivan, and I was just 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: so brilliant. Oh, Megan, I hope Hia lupo, Hi loupho. 179 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: And shoot, we'll get your mother Doris into she could 180 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: do for part time job. She'll be in charge of 181 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the teeth. Yes, So, Megan if you're listening to a 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: lower level. And the worst thing is I want to 183 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: love it. I'm not going to this as a hater. 184 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: And you've got to talk a little less about yourself. 185 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: And I know I talk a lot, but you've got 186 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: to just ten percent less. Mean the guests didn't speak Mark, 187 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know if she was there for she being Serena. 188 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Put it in your week getting dress, going over to 189 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: the studio. I would like, why did a bother? And 190 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: this is the biggest point of Serena's career. She just retired. 191 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: This is the biggest, you know, conversation she could have. 192 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: It's a great get I just think she missed the mark. 193 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: She was a great I was on this morning show 194 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: on v H one, The Big Morning Bust with Carrie Keegan. 195 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: I think her name is a great person. The first 196 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: time I was a guest, I didn't speak and I 197 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: liked to talk. I couldn't get a word in Edge. 198 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't get worded. Megan, I think you're probably nervous. 199 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: Take your time slowed down a bit, Really think what 200 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: you want this show to be, which brings us to 201 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: my whole question of the day. We want to know 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: what you think. So. Megan's new podcast is getting slammed 203 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: by the critics, saying it's just another way she can 204 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: talk about herself. Do you agree? Do you agree? Hey? 205 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: Go vert on a Twitter page at Naughty Nice Robert 206 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: at Facebook page which is naughty Gossip and be sure 207 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: to check back to Morowa to hear the results. Hey, LUPI, 208 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: what are you working on? Me? Yeah? I have a 209 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: really cute story for you. So Ben Effleck was caught 210 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: staring at Jennifer Lopez's wedding pics while on their Italian honeymoon. 211 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: So cute? Okay? So, after celebrating their second wedding on 212 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: the after sprawling Georgia estate, Affleck and Lopez jetted off 213 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: to Italy for their second honeymoon, and while the two 214 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: were photographs enjoying a leisurely lunch at the Grand Hotel 215 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: in Lake Womo, the Oscar winner was caught staring at 216 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: pics of his blushing bride on his phone. So I 217 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: feel like appeared to be appreciating one photo in particular, 218 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: but one of Lopez on a swing working elaborate Ralph 219 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Lauren Rob Do you think this is cute or even 220 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: this is a little weird. I don't know. I mean 221 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: I have mixed feedings about this part of me. If 222 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: is she's sitting next to you, look at her like 223 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: you don't we look at photographs of Jennifer Lopez because 224 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: we're not on a boat with her. But if you 225 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: get a minute with the celebrity or somebody that you love, 226 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: or your wife or your husband or your boyfriend government whoever, 227 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: spend time with them. It's like people that go to 228 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: pop concerts and just video the whole thing of the 229 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: on the photo. I like to see you and I 230 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a rule that, like when 231 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: we go for drinks, I try to stay off my phone. 232 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm not always the best at it, but I try 233 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: to be in the moment. Now, if me and you 234 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: were looking at a picture together, mark and critique in 235 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: the dress, or she's on a swing, when did you 236 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: like we're doing that? I totally get it. So if 237 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: the photograph was part of the conversation that we were having, fantastic. 238 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I love to see a photograph. But then I put 239 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: my phone down and we talk to you live your 240 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: life through a screen, mark or can you look up 241 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: and make eye contact. I'm great at eye contact. And 242 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm great at being in the moment, like you're saying, Rabbi, 243 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: I love I love going out for drinks. I love 244 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: connecting and putting my phone away. But when I go 245 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: home is when the real, the real research happened. I'm 246 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: starting people's facebooks Instagram like I'm doing the words. You're curious. 247 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: You're a very curious person. You are. I would have 248 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: hated living with you when I was young. I bet 249 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan had no secret your brother. I bet you knew everything. 250 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: I went through other stuff. Horrible. You went through all 251 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: his drawers and his diary. Just nosy, nosys, Ben put 252 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: down the phone. You were sitting next to your wife, 253 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez. This rumor bubbled up, and I hate it. 254 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson has been forced to shoot down a false 255 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: rumor that he was donating blood at the Red Cross. 256 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: So the former Lakers superstar who was diagnosed with HIV 257 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: in has been acute STI donating blood. Let me explain 258 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: what happened here. So an old photograph, a really old 259 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: photograph of him, popped up. It looks like he's having 260 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: some blood withdrawn, which is a routine thing back then 261 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: with people with HIV. This photograph has now bubbled up 262 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: and everybody thinks he is donating blood. Now, he said 263 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: that it's just not true. It's absolutely not true. But 264 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I think this really plays in to the stereotype of 265 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: the lies that people with HIV what are spreading or infectual. 266 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: There's a really ugly underbell a to this really ugly lie, Mark, 267 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: don't you think? Yeah? And you know, I think as 268 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: a gay man, we we feel this closely because for 269 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: years and years and years we've been told do not 270 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: donate blood, you cannot donate blood. Then there's this need 271 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: please donate blood, donnate blood, but we're still left out 272 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: of that. And the reality is every person who donates blood, 273 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the blood is tested in health from month. It's not 274 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: just given away. So it's it just seems like a 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: very backwards and ignorant type of the incrimination against gay people. 276 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: And and so I just I feel for Magic. It's 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: it's hurtful and it's unkind. I would say it's unkind, 278 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: isn't it. So he said the following quotes. I'm aware 279 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: of the false story circulating on the internet, and to 280 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: be clear, I have never donated blood. Mark, You are right, 281 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: all blood donations are tested for HIV antibodies, many many 282 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: different viruses here. But I just don't believe somebody who 283 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: is aware that they are HIV positive would do that. 284 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: It's just not something that happens. And to spread that 285 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: or to plant that seed that people are trying to 286 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: do this is it's just it's wrong. It's just so wrong, 287 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: so not true and wrong. Hey, moving along, what's going 288 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: on with Kelly clarks And? We love her on the show? 289 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: We love her, but not her ex. Solly Clarkson left 290 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for the summer to spend time with her 291 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: two children in Montana, where her ex Brendan block side 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: n Okay. So she said, the kids are with me 293 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: and their dad and it was really nice because usually 294 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: they have to travel a lot because our separation. But 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: we're both Montana. The voice judge, who split from her 296 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: former manager in noted that she hasn't taken a summer 297 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: off since she was sixteen sixteen, but needed to wind 298 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: out after a rough couple of years. She said, it 299 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: was really important for me to like shut down for 300 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: a minute. I literally four wheeled in the mountains. I 301 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: love her, I love her. That's all the drama though, 302 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: is that he tried to get this ranch from her, 303 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: saying that it was his when they got divorced, and 304 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: in the end he sort of got a percentage I 305 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: think five percent of the property he owns, which I'm 306 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: not quite sure how that works. It's like, as he 307 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: allowed in five percent of the rooms or five percent 308 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: of the furniture. He's fighting her tooth and nail over this, 309 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: and so I love the fact she got to spend 310 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: some time with the kids. We don't know if he 311 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: was around. I'm told that he was not around, but 312 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: they are trying to co parent here and at the 313 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, we have to think about those children. Hey, 314 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break and we will 315 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to the normity, even nicea mark, 316 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: even little hungover a little bit. What did you drink? Wine? 317 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Just well whatever? It was free, so free. I like 318 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: a free bar. Yeah, I like a prosecco. I like 319 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: a why how many do you think you had? Well 320 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: at the end, we just started taking the bottles to 321 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a cable and we just started pouring. It's unknown. That's 322 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the trouble. When you don't pay, you just keep topping 323 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: your glass up. Before you ever finish, so it really 324 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: is an unknown amount, but I would guess it's a 325 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: bottle or two. Hey, let's get two halples do and 326 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Haitia's final resting place has been revealed. Our question was 327 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: would you ever go and visit and in l A 328 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: would you ever go to a celebrity grave? Some people 329 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: really do do this, and you know people have idols 330 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: and you see still on graves of Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, 331 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: you do see people turn up with flowers. I think 332 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Vita Paro and two in Argentina people go to her 333 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: great Princess Diana. That's interesting that she's buried outside London 334 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: and now they have a statue. So would you go, 335 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: let's have a look. Sixty said yes, sixty percent of 336 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: you would be interested in doing this. I got to 337 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: admit I think I'm part of that sixty mark. I 338 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: could see myself turning up with some flowers, could you? 339 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not a graveyard person. I will I will 340 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: not be visiting, and I don't visit my grandparents. I 341 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: will not be buried. I just I don't believe that 342 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: anyone is there. There's nothing going on there. So I 343 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: and I wan't you know? I hope you're rest in peace? 344 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: But where would you like me to throw your ashes 345 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: in Andy Koen's face? And any somewhere maybe like in 346 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: a Huddon river? Can we do it on twenty four 347 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: Street so I don't have to walk far if I 348 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: read down to fill a rose in convenience you right, 349 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: thank you, darling. We'll do it just outside Bartos because 350 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: it will be very convenient, Thank you, darling. They don't 351 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: forget to vote on today's twin a page naughty nice Ram, 352 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: but on Facebook page naughty Jake back to Morale to 353 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: hear your results. And now it's time for a very 354 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: unusual nicest of the day. Unusual is right, Rob, It's 355 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton Hilary So. In an episode of for upcoming 356 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus show Gutsy, the former Secretary of State 357 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: faces off with Kim Kardashian and a general legal knowledge quiz, 358 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: and surprisingly Kim round Hilary Kim So. Before becoming First Lady, 359 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: Clinton was a successful lawyer and even they partnered a 360 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: law firm, and Kim is currently studying for the bar. 361 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: But Hillary's daughter and co host Chelsea chimes and saying 362 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Kim has studied more recently than you. The final score 363 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: ending up, and the final score ends up being eleven 364 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: to eleven to Kim for the Hillary Wife. I like this, 365 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: and I've released this new show. I've been watching it. 366 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: They have some amazing guests coming up, Jane Good or 367 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: Gloria steinem Wonder sites Kim Kardashian. I think this is 368 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: a really good look. So Hillary lost the election and 369 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: has moved on. But I think this is important though. 370 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not making digs of anybody else here. Don't 371 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: read into it. When something doesn't work out for you, 372 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: don't stamp your foot or cry or spread lies. It 373 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't work out. Figure out the next step. I've done 374 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: this in the past when I've been fired from a 375 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: job or didn't get a job I wanted. I made 376 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: all the excuses in the world. I pretended people were 377 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: conspiring behind my back not to give me that job. Nonsense. 378 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Figure out your next move. And 379 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: I hope this makes Hillary and her daughter Chelsea, who's 380 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: adorable on this, really happy. It gives you the rejection, 381 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: it's really the redirection of something better, the redirection. Hillary 382 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: looks happier than ever. Hey, let's do a naughtice to 383 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty. Richard Simmons left 384 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: the spotlight because of personal problems. And I think why 385 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: this is the naughtiest is Richard is suddenly back in 386 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: the spotlight and he doesn't want to be. I don't 387 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: think this is right. Let's leave Richard alone. He doesn't 388 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: want to be in the spotlight. Apparently he's gained a 389 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of weight, he has, he has issues with his hips, 390 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: with his with his feet, he needed knee surgery, and 391 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: insiders are saying he just doesn't want to be remembered 392 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: as the man he is right now. He's not particularly 393 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: healthy right now, he doesn't feel pretty particularly great about 394 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: about himself, and so he wants to be remembered as 395 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: the as the fitness guru. And if there's ever a 396 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: picture of him in a wheelchair or with the cane, 397 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really upsetting to him. We don't own celebrities, 398 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: we really don't. When they want to retire, when they 399 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: want to step away, I'm okay letting them do so. Yeah, 400 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, I I've worked with Richard a few times 401 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: and I saw him right before he disappeared, and he 402 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: was not in a good place right up he was. 403 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: He was very emotional. He cried, he card being with 404 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: a weird voicemail, like you could tell he was on 405 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: his way out to something, not it, and I I agree, 406 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: leave him alone like this, this time does not canceled 407 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: out all the great work he did for many, many decades. 408 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: You know interesting you say that I was on a 409 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: local New York show and I did it pretty much 410 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: every day, so that's sort of part of the cast. 411 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: Richard was a guest around the time that he disappeared. 412 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: In the green room, he was crying and screaming and chatting, 413 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: and in the end, the executive producer, who was fantastic, 414 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: just made the decision, don't go on, don't do it, 415 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: We'll fill Rob can do some celebrity gossips. Don't don't 416 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: do this, Let's leave him alone. Let's end with a 417 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: moment of robb You get a Robiet robbigeover Rob. I 418 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: love this quote by Henry Matisse, the artist. Very fancy 419 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: for this show, but I love this. I love this quote. 420 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: There are always flowers for those who want to see them. 421 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: I want to see flowers every day, and I forced 422 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: myself to find them. If you look around, there is 423 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: a glimmer of hope. Somewhere there is beauty. I look 424 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: at my window when I pulled my coffee in the morning. 425 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm up on the fifteenth floor and I look right 426 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: up tenth Avenue and I see flowers. I'm like, I'm 427 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: the luckiest guy in the world, and I look. I 428 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: don't take that view for granted, don't take stuff for granted. 429 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: Rather friends with flowers. I would pick you a ford, 430 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: that's right, a rose with a ford to freak you 431 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: as well as love you. Okay, that is it for today. 432 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Thank you Mark, and thank you for listening to the 433 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Naughty but Nice with Robert Mark Show, a production of 434 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Don't forget to subscribe on the I Heart 435 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Radio app Apple podcast. Wherever you listen, leave us a 436 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: review if you can, and remember, if you're going to 437 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: be naughty, you've got to bee take care of everybody. 438 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: It's notting but Nice with Bro