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Speaker 1: Angie Martinez in Real Life podcast Today's Guest is a

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Speaker 1: force of creativity, authenticity, and evolution. Kali Ochies is a

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Speaker 1: Grammy winning singer and songwriter, and she's known for her

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Speaker 1: genre defying sound and unapologetic self expression. With roots in

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Speaker 1: Columbia and Virginia, she's built a global fan base by

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Speaker 1: staying true to her unique voice both musically and personally.

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Speaker 1: Her journey hasn't been easy, but through resilience and vision,

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Speaker 1: she's created a life and career on her own terms.

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Speaker 1: And she's got a new project it's called Sincerely. It

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Speaker 1: comes out May ninth, and Cally is here today.

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Speaker 2: Weird to hear.

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Speaker 1: People talking about you and talk about you with how

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Speaker 1: people perceive you. That's how we perceive you. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: somebody didn't know you, and you like dropped on some

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Speaker 1: like little island and they were not they didn't know you,

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Speaker 1: how would you describe you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, for instance, sometimes when I might meet

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Speaker 3: somebody who doesn't know me and they ask about what

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Speaker 3: I do or whatever, I'll just I just say I

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Speaker 3: make music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's so I'll just be like, oh, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: make music.

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Speaker 1: I know that this has been a dream for me

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Speaker 1: since you were young to do this, do you.

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Speaker 2: Feel like No, Honestly, it wasn't my dream really. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For me, like when I was young, my dream was

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be a director. I wanted to make movies. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna do more so like dedicate

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Speaker 3: my life to helping others, maybe to like volunteer work

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Speaker 3: peace corps like that was kind of like the dreams

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Speaker 3: because I was trying to like push more in my

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Speaker 3: video direction. And since I loved music so much and

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Speaker 3: I always made music anyway, I was like, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna just make some music videos because I love to incorporate,

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Speaker 3: you know, mixed media. It was kind of always my thing.

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Speaker 3: So I was just like, oh, putting music to videos

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Speaker 1: So music was secondary at the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't really what My intention was. Never to

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Speaker 3: be a singer. I was never you know, it was

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Speaker 3: just something songwriting something that always came natural to me.

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Speaker 3: Making art was always something that I just always naturally

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Speaker 3: did from the start. And but my my actual dream

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Speaker 3: was I wanted to be a director, and then things

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Speaker 2: And I was I just kind of yeah, definitely my book.

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Speaker 1: My bucket list. Really, I just finished writing my first

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Speaker 1: well I wrote two scripts and one of them is

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Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot at the end.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So exciting because it's always been like my thing, like,

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Speaker 1: even if if it's for whatever small group, like it

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Speaker 1: is my goal to write create something about creating something

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Speaker 1: from your own head and then taking it all the

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Speaker 1: way to fruition to the other side, like come up

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Speaker 1: with it, write it, get the money, and then shoot

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Speaker 1: the shit yourself. There's something so cool about sitting in

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Speaker 1: doing something. So to me, it's always been like a

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Speaker 1: bucket list thing. Yeah I'm doing that this summer.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations, thank you, so exciting.

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Speaker 1: So i'd imagine for you is a similar kind of

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Speaker 1: want to direct and you make music. So i'd imagine

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Speaker 1: you have the same kind of like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: when you create like that, it's so like inside your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love to be behind the camera. I love

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Speaker 3: I have screenplays as well. I'm hoping to get one

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Speaker 3: of those in the works, but that's definitely still a dream.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you write screenplays too, Yeah, yeah, I've always written stories,

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Speaker 3: Like as long as I can remember, since I was

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Speaker 2: So so definitely still something.

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Speaker 1: So where are you at now, like creatively, like the

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Speaker 1: what is the I don't know what season is this

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Speaker 3: It's actually a weird time because I feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: And I'm kind of obviously my baby is my number one,

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Speaker 3: but what is the other thing that I'm going to

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Speaker 3: can just do outside of being your mother, yeah, part

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Speaker 2: So trying to figure.

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Speaker 1: Out that way because normally people they got to go

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I definitely went through that too,

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Speaker 3: But I think it wasn't more It wasn't really so

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Speaker 3: was more so about just not feeling like myself for

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Speaker 1: But baby, you just had this is like a baby's

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Speaker 1: is you haven't even They say it takes like a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people told me even longer. So

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that I started have started kind of feeling

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Speaker 3: into whatever is the next.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna get into all that. Yeah, but to

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Speaker 1: M you. Did you have any type of like postpart

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Speaker 3: But luckily Donald was very supportive and so that was

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Speaker 3: really helpful. But I did have guys always get that No, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I hear a lot of horror stories about that. So

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful that he has always been super supportive. But

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Speaker 3: I also have always had this like strained family relationship,

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Speaker 3: of just like, oh, you know, I cut off a

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Speaker 2: Do you have kids?

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Speaker 1: I do boys. I have one is my son that

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Speaker 1: you absolutely had postpart We're like, why do you say that.

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Speaker 1: She's like, you didn't make jokes, say the same way

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Speaker 2: You learning to be a mom, it's such a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it at the time, but I think

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Speaker 3: Your life completely changes overnight with yeah, and everything changes overnight,

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Speaker 3: And for me, it was like I felt so the

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Speaker 3: And I wasn't even necessarily trying, because I'm not like

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Speaker 2: But it's just weird.

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Speaker 3: It was just weird having a whole new body overnight.

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Speaker 1: Was the people put pressure on you, or you put

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Speaker 2: I think like, naturally.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you I try to stay away from the internet,

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Speaker 3: but you know, naturally you will see like body shaming,

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Speaker 3: like and it doesn't matter. They don't care, Like if

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Speaker 1: That's wild, how dare you?

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Speaker 3: I had to do like some type of I think

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Speaker 2: I had just had a baby.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, for me, like I have bodyes this

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Speaker 3: And then I've seen like all these people dragging me

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Speaker 1: But I was just like with people defending you because

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Speaker 2: With us whether we go. Yeah, must be so cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're very private. You don't shore interview, but you

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Speaker 1: I just hate it's so hard because it's like you

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Speaker 3: I just love to make art, Yeah, I just love

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Speaker 3: I love making music, I love making art. I love creating.

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Speaker 3: I love seeing things. I feel like it's just part

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Speaker 2: It's like it's my relief.

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Speaker 3: So because a lot of people will be like I

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Speaker 1: I get that the creative is supernatural. It's the business

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Speaker 3: of power over so, you know, like I'm going to baby.

443
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,480
Speaker 3: So I was like, I literally can't see anything. So

444
00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 3: I deleted everything off my phone. Wow, I only had Instagram.

445
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 3: I turned all my messages off, I turned all my

446
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,480
Speaker 3: c like I couldn't like nobody could reach me type

447
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 3: of thing. If somebody, you know, whatever people did, somebody's

448
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,440
Speaker 3: just respectful to me, can't talk to you anymore because

449
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 3: anybody who could try to like make me feel that

450
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 3: type of way during the most vulnerable time in my

451
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 3: life pregnancy and postpartum.

452
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,119
Speaker 2: To me, that was just like a big like.

453
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: No, I don't blame you.

454
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

455
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: So are you back on socials and stuff? Yeah?

456
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 3: So now you know now that we're doing the So

457
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 3: I kept Instagram. Instagram was where I saw like the

458
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,240
Speaker 3: body shaming and stuff. I recently just got TikTok back

459
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 3: because of the album. But I'm gonna lose it again,

460
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 3: you know, after diving.

461
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 2: So no, no, it's not.

462
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 1: I haven't.

463
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 3: I really literally just post and go. Sometimes I respond

464
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 3: to a couple of fans just to show love back.

465
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 3: A lot of them are like, Kelly, do lives again?

466
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 2: Talk to us again?

467
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 3: More like they feel like I cut them off, you know,

468
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 3: and they feel like, oh, did we do something? Is

469
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 3: she mad at her fan base or whatever?

470
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: You know, And.

471
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, nobody, you guys didn't do anything. It's

472
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,159
Speaker 3: just like it's literally just for my mental health. Like

473
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I'm somebody's mom. Now

474
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 3: I can't be like I'm too grown to be sitting

475
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 3: here like chronically online the way that I used to be,

476
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I have way too

477
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 3: much other stuff going on, and I have to be

478
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 3: like in a good headspace so that I can focus

479
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 3: on my child and on the task at hand and

480
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 3: like stay you know, eyes on the prize and not

481
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: be worried about outside noise.

482
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 1: Yea, What is your relationship like with your fans?

483
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: Like how I used to talk to them a lot online? Right,

484
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 3: Like I had Twitter. I used to do like the

485
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 3: little chats with them on Twitter. I used to get

486
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 3: on Instagram live. I used to be on TikTok Live.

487
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 3: I used to do all of that stuff, and now

488
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to just be more creative with the way

489
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: that I engage with them. Like I'm doing these mailboxes

490
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,239
Speaker 3: where we leave the mailboxes in different cities and I

491
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 3: have like a snippet and they unlock it and they

492
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: can leave letters for me there and I'm gonna post

493
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: their letters and more like you know, like like a

494
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: og way of interacting, like kind of like a before

495
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 3: social media type of way of how people could interact

496
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 3: with their fans. Also, you know, when we announce the tour,

497
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna be able to see them in person

498
00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: and stuff more.

499
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's more so.

500
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: Like how are you going to do with tour? You

501
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: have to take the baby everywhere, right, You're gonna have

502
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: to take the baby.

503
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna come, which he did already for his

504
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: dad's tours.

505
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, but it's great. He loved it.

506
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: He loved just like seeing new things every day and

507
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 3: the trucks and they'll show.

508
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: You some videos.

509
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, it is a great age.

510
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's beautiful. I'm just like in all of

511
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: him every day. Both of us are obsessed with him really, yeah,

512
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 3: like the first thing we do when we wake up

513
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: is just play with him and just it's the first.

514
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: You said it's been a year, and how happy you

515
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: guys were.

516
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we are obsessed with him.

517
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: But doesn't it make your partnership or your relationship It

518
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: just bonds you in a different way.

519
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: For us, it did. For us, it did.

520
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of people and I have

521
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: a lot of friends who they experienced the opposite, where

522
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, you know, having a baby made

523
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: them go different directions because they didn't have you know,

524
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 3: they might have had quarrels about parents or whatever the

525
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: case may be. For us, it did the opposite. I

526
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 3: feel like it brought us closer, thankfully.

527
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: So that's amazing. Are you going to do more?

528
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, yeah, maybe like two, three more.

529
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: We'll see what.

530
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: That means.

531
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't that he's just so perfect that we're like,

532
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: how can we not have some more?

533
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: I write so musically so sincerely. It's such a sweet

534
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: neighbor now, but yeah, yes, it's just I don't know,

535
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: it's just simple but sweet and honest. It feels like

536
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: it'll be honest, like what is the what is the okay?

537
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: So for me, I felt like a lot of times

538
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: when I write, I end up writing from kind of

539
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: a perspective of like I'm really speaking to the person

540
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 3: that I'm writing to or whatever, right, So that was

541
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: kind of one perspective of it.

542
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: The other perspective was, obviously, that is the.

543
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 3: Most raw, it's the most vulnerable, is the most honest.

544
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 3: So I felt like sincerely, you know, made sense for that.

545
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: And then lastly, I try to look for kind of

546
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: kind of clues to know that I'm on the right path.

547
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: And I was listening to this one Brenda Lee's song

548
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot, a lot, and then I listened

549
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 3: to this other song by her and her the album

550
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: is called Sincerely, and I had already named the album Sincerely.

551
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I didn't even know that she

552
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 3: had a song called sincerely. I always love that it

553
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: sounded like nostalgic, like a nostalgic title, and she had

554
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 3: one called sincerely Brenda Lee, and I was like, oh,

555
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, that that might be a sign.

556
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that, like because I look for

557
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: them all the.

558
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: Time, Yeah, I do. I do look for science.

559
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: I look for science all the time. I feel like

560
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: like if we said the same thing at the same time,

561
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, this is exactly where I'm supposed

562
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: to be. Or if I was just talking about something

563
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: and somebody says that something, I'm like, Oh, I'm sitting

564
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: exactly where I'm supposed to be, Like I'm whatever train

565
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be on.

566
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: I feel in the right Yeah, I feel like there

567
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: are definitely little clues that will show you that you're

568
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: going in the right direction. And I pray a lot.

569
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't pray for particular things. I mostly pray for

570
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: God to guide me in the right direction, keep me

571
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: on the path that I'm meant to be on. And

572
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 3: I feel like when I pray for that, more than

573
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: I pray for like something particular, I can always just

574
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: know that I'm, you know, gonna.

575
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: End up where I need to be. Yeah.

576
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I mean, the album is dedicated to

577
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: my mom and something that was after my mom passed

578
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: something pretty much one of the last things that I

579
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 3: got left from her was letters that she wrote to me.

580
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: So that was.

581
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: Another reason why I called it that Oh baby, I'm

582
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: so sorry, Yeah, thank you.

583
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: How much I don't know clearly it has. It's impacted

584
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: in terms of like where you are creatively. I'm sure

585
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: that has had a lot to do with the challenge

586
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: of some of the journey of this past year. No,

587
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: she passed right, yeah to thank you.

588
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

589
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: So, yeah, she was diagnosed with stage for lung cancer

590
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: while I was pregnant. Oh yeah, so it was kind

591
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: of just like.

592
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: Were you guys close?

593
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: We had actually a year prior just started working on

594
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: our relationship. We had a pretty strained relationship growing up,

595
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 3: but she did always love me. I always loved her,

596
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: and we always wanted to work on our relationship and

597
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: we finally were able to.

598
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: And then yeah, what a blessing that you were able

599
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: to Yeah, we were able to.

600
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: Do that, and we were able to really like, you know,

601
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: something a lot of people from her generation can't do

602
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: is like take accountability and.

603
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: Really like you.

604
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was actually able to be like, you know what,

605
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 3: I'm sorry and I made mistakes, but I love you

606
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: and I want to work on things.

607
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: Wow we did. Yeah, we did. That is about that. Yeah,

608
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: it's really hard for.

609
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: Them and that was before her diagnosis, so it's not

610
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: like she knew that she was running out of time.

611
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Or anything. She just did it on her own accord.

612
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: So what a blessing that you were able to have

613
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: that because at least you, you know, some people don't.

614
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: Some people don't regret.

615
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, I wish I would have.

616
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I still I definitely still have regrets just

617
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, a lot of lost time

618
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: because of everything. But I am really grateful. A lot

619
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: of people don't get to at least say that goodbyes

620
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: on good terms and we got that.

621
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: And what was the thing that you learned? Like what

622
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: was the thing that you misunderstood about your mom or

623
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: that she misunderstood? Like what was the rift? And like

624
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: how did that happen?

625
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: Well, I've never I've never talked about really like the

626
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: reasons behind it because it's really personal. But I think

627
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: that's something that I learned that really helped me move

628
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: past everything, was to understand that my mom really was

629
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: just she really was a victim and a lot of women,

630
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: a lot of girls, I want to say, when I

631
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: was little, I didn't realize how much my mom was

632
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: actually going through and how much she was facing and

633
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: stuff for and I just looked at, you know, my

634
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 3: needs because I was a kid, and I think growing

635
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: up and looking back and realizing how much she actually

636
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: did go through and things that I didn't even know

637
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: that we're going on, and why she couldn't necessarily, you know,

638
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: why I might not have understand why she did certain

639
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: things or why she allows certain things to happen. I

640
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 3: was able to forgive and accept and and move forward

641
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: and say, you know what, like, you know, she she

642
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: went through a lot. Yeah, she went through a lot,

643
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: and and yeah.

644
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: How healing is that when your mom after the all

645
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: that time says apologizes.

646
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really great, I'm.

647
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: Really away or did it take time?

648
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: It took time. It did take time. We did talk

649
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: for a while about everything, and you know, she went

650
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: We went back and forth a lot, and she was

651
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: she was here, she wasn't she was Yeah, she was.

652
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: Living in Columbia. Yeah we were.

653
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: We were doing phone calls actually, but but yeah, at

654
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: the end of at the ends of everything before I

655
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: got pregnant, we were able to mend our relationship. And

656
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: so yeah, after I got pregnant, I was just so

657
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: happy because I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going into

658
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: this pregnancy like with my mother, wound healed, you know,

659
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: like because I always felt that I did have those wounds,

660
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: like and wow, and yeah, thankfully she was able to

661
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: meet my son and she was able to spend time

662
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: with him.

663
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: Woman.

664
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was able to to get to know him,

665
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: and we would call with her.

666
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Every day, talk with her birthday.

667
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, really recent, like right before his birthday basically.

668
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, she she almost made it to his first birthday.

669
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: So she made it together.

670
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they have pictures.

671
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: Together, and she was really happy that that she was

672
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: able to do that. And I put we have scrap

673
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: books for him, so I put her picture big and

674
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: his scrap book and wrote something about her there for him,

675
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: and you know, can always remember at least from that.

676
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: And have those moments.

677
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

678
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Does this show up in the music, I would imagine,

679
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: you said your music is like.

680
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's weird because I feel like when somebody

681
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: close to you is sick for that amount of time,

682
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: you're kind of like grieving them before they're even gone.

683
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: And obviously I was very much hoping that she was

684
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: gonna make.

685
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: It, but.

686
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: Also hurt, Like it's hurt. It's really hurts a lot

687
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: to like see somebody be in and out of the hospital.

688
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: And like you know.

689
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: That beyond that ride with them and have to see yeah,

690
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: I have to see like them suffering like that.

691
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: It's really hard. And I was pregnant and so it

692
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: was just a lot.

693
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: That is a lot. No wonder, baby, no wonder.

694
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot, and I was working, so

695
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: it's like on top of that, it was like all

696
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: those things going on at once, and I was just

697
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: like music was kind of really just my like I said,

698
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 3: like my relief out of this, out of you know,

699
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: the things that I was going through in my daily life,

700
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: and my way to just kind of escape. And it's

701
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: actually really weird because the first song on the album

702
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: was the first song that I wrote when I first

703
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: started working on the project, and it was before I

704
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: even knew that I was pregnant. It was before that

705
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: my mom got her diagnosis or anything. And later when

706
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: I listened back to the lyrics, it like tied in

707
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: full circle with what I was going through later that

708
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that I was gonna go through later,

709
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: and it was like the music was was what I

710
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: needed because on the lyrics, I talk about stay away

711
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: from my baby, stay away from my home. At that time,

712
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I was gonna have a baby.

713
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: And then I talk about looking look into the clouds

714
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: and see a smiling face and it gives me hope.

715
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: And now for me, like that's her.

716
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Oh baby, you want to give a second. How have

717
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: you been like managing the beef? Are you? Are you

718
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: talking to anybody?

719
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: Are you?

720
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: Like?

721
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you have music, but.

722
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a journey, Like it's

723
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: a day wide day journey. You know, some things are

724
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: easier than others. But I feel like I feel like,

725
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, being being human.

726
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: Hurts, and it hurts because we love and the things

727
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: and the people that we love can be taken from

728
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: us at any time. And for me, I feel like

729
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: it's important to feel that pain and like how to

730
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: get through it, to let yourself feel it. And I

731
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: feel like so many people have a pain avoidance and

732
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: like we live in a society that's very much like

733
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: you know, we're just all kind of trying to avoid.

734
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: Self medicating in some way.

735
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know.

736
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: For me, I try to just I'm trying to just

737
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: like because it's really hard, you know, I still haven't

738
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: really talked about it to too many people, like only

739
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: people are really close to me, know, and because it's

740
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: just you know, you try to just be like, oh,

741
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: everything's okay, I'm fine, you know, everything's cool. But I'm

742
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: kind of learning now that it's okay to be like,

743
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: you know what, like I'm not okay right now and

744
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: it sucks, but I'm gonna get through it cause I

745
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: can't embrace it rather than just like acting like I'm okay.

746
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: I think it's very generous of you too to share

747
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: this moment of your truth with your fans. You talked

748
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: about your fans being like why don't you talk to

749
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: us or anything? But the truth is, it's like this

750
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: is like offering that You're like, this is who I am,

751
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: this is what I'm feeling right now. There's no You're like,

752
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like you being this

753
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: vulnerable is almost an offering in a way to let

754
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: them into to get to know you and to know

755
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: your journey.

756
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, I just I just have to

757
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: be honest about where I'm at in my life. And

758
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: I feel like, more than anything, it's just weird to

759
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: n pretend, like, you know, to not talk about her

760
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: when you or to not act like it didn't have

761
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: such a you know, it's a big life altering event,

762
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: like becoming a mom and losing your mom at the

763
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: same time, they're both two huge life altering events.

764
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: So I really can't pretend that it didn't have an

765
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: impact on me.

766
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: And you know, also having had a strained relationship for

767
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: so long, like that does hurt too, because you do

768
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: have regrets about like the lost time and the what

769
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: could have been, And I feel like just kind of

770
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: accepting that and being honest about it. And also I

771
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: want to talk about a little bit about like lung

772
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: cancer and my mom wasn't a smoker.

773
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Wow, I know people too, Yeah, a.

774
00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Lot of women.

775
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: Actually, women are like more predisposition to have lung cancer

776
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: than men because of all the stuff that we expose

777
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: ourselves to.

778
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: This probably has a lot to do with why you're

779
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: taking care.

780
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: Of Yeah, so that was why, Like it was like

781
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: I became pregnant and my mom was, you know, diagnosed

782
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 3: with stage four. I never my mom, Like she ate healthy,

783
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: she didn't smoke, she wasn't really a drinker. She was

784
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: like the last person that I would have expected to

785
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: get lung cancer, you know. So yeah, yeah, so so Yeah,

786
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's worth talking about because I

787
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: think a lot of people don't realize that the environmental

788
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: factors and also all the stuff that we expose ourselves

789
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: to as women, even which is like everyday stuff that

790
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: we do, has an impact on us and it builds up.

791
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: How is like this everything you've learned from this experience

792
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: of like making amends with your mom and learning she

793
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: was also a victim and had her own you know,

794
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: traumas and things. Yeah, how has that full? I don't

795
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: know that circle in formed how you parent, like you

796
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: as a mom, Like how is Yeah?

797
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean I parent really different to how my parents parented.

798
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: And I don't.

799
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: Know, it's just I'm I'm just very I'm naturally very

800
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: very different from them. My my mom, it was really

801
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: hard for her, like with me growing up, Like it

802
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: was really hard for her to show love. It was

803
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: really hard for her to show affection. I'm the opposite. Like,

804
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: I'm very very affectionate with my child. I'm always telling

805
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: him I love him, I'm always giving him caisses, I'm

806
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: always giving him hugs, And I don't know, it's just

807
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: naturally there, Like I said, it's like as a kid,

808
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: I used to have resentmentors that like, you know, why

809
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: doesn't why doesn't she treat me like how I see

810
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: other people smat whatever. But then as I grew up,

811
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: I realized, like, wow, that must have been hard for her.

812
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: You know, you have you start having grace when you

813
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: grow up, and you're like, that must have been hard

814
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: for her to not be able to express or feel

815
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: those things, or you know, to have grown up that way.

816
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: That she also didn't receive that from her parents, And

817
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: that's all yeah, exactly, like yeah, exactly, So, yeah, you

818
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: just learn as you get older to give grace to

819
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: your parents and to kind of accepting for what they

820
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: are and just learn to not continue the cycle and

821
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: to like break that. You know, what about your dad,

822
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: he grew up, He grew up really really differently, so

823
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: it was it was hard for him as well kind

824
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: of to understand how to be that because his parents,

825
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: like my grandma, she had so many kids and my

826
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 3: dad ended up living in the streets because she couldn't

827
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: take care of any of them, and my grandpa I

828
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: never met him because he was like really abusive. So

829
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: my dad pretty much lived in the streets since he

830
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: was really little Oh wow.

831
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

832
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: So he like, from his perspective, you know, everything was

833
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: like very He's like, oh have it easy? Yeah yeah yeah,

834
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: so yeah. So they both had really hard childhoods and

835
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: so you know, you try to give grace.

836
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: How did you get to be so like loving and

837
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: artistic and creative?

838
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 3: And I think for me that I also grew up

839
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: in a household full of other family members. You know,

840
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: my sister helped raise me. At one point, my aunt

841
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: helped raise me. It was like I had other people

842
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: in my life, So it wasn't it wasn't like I

843
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: only had them.

844
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

845
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I just kind of always been

846
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: my own person. I'm very different from my siblings as well.

847
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: And you got like a little like God gave you

848
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: that little creative.

849
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 3: My mom actually told me when we had our conversation

850
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: where we like, you know, we're able to get past everything.

851
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: She told me she was like she was like, I

852
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: I should have realized that that because she was like,

853
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: I noticed that you were different from my other kids,

854
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: Like you were always more sensitive than them, You were

855
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: always more empathetic than them, Like I should.

856
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: Have known that you needed more like care and love

857
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: than they did, and she's probably not realizing they needed

858
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: just as much care and love.

859
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: But her other kids, they're more like her in the

860
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: sense were like they're very like move forward with everything.

861
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: They don't really show too much emotion.

862
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: They don't.

863
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: They kind of just want to like get you know,

864
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: the pain avoidance. Like I said, like they just kind

865
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 3: of like, okay, that's all we're leaving in the past.

866
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 3: Da Da is very hard.

867
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Was she proud of you? She must be.

868
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was proud. She was super proud. But she

869
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: was a very very simple person. So she wasn't proud

870
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: for the reasons why like maybe other people's parents would

871
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: have been. Like she didn't really care too much about

872
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: money or any of this stuff. Yeah, she was more

873
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: so like she was proud that I have a family,

874
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: and she was proud that things were good with you know,

875
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: me and my man, and that my baby is healthy

876
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: and beautiful, and that my home, and.

877
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: She was proud of those type of things. She didn't

878
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: really care too much about the other stuff or anything.

879
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: No, No, she was like, let me see the grammy.

880
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: They didn't care too much.

881
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: No, they didn't care too much about those type of

882
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: things at all. She was just My mom was just

883
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: a very simple lady. She likes simple stuff. If I

884
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: would try to take her shopping, I'll be like.

885
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: Mom, get this cold? Like this expensive?

886
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: Like did She'd be like, no, no, that's too much

887
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: that I can't be walking around with that.

888
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: No.

889
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: No, she always choose like, you know, the most simple,

890
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: like humble thing that she could choose. She she don't.

891
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: She didn't really like flashy stuff or.

892
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: You know, industry stuff. She wasn't into that.

893
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you that you had that time

894
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: with her.

895
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Yeah, I'm very grateful for that.

896
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: Do you want to get I feel like this she

897
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: was killing you, Like, let.

898
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: Me get that out of.

899
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: Back care.

900
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh baby, Yeah, life is tough. Yeah, you're doing amazing. Consent.

901
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: You were like like underplane, like, yeah, you're not a

902
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: little postpartum in my body, but no, baby, you were

903
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: going through a lot. Yeah.

904
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: That definitely contributed to my postpartum for sure.

905
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Of course, your whole world is different, Yeah, of course,

906
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: but you seem to be okay. Some people that can

907
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: make them can make people angry.

908
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: I want to I want to say that I'm angry.

909
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: I would just say that some like how I said,

910
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 3: like some days are harder than others. Like some days

911
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: I think I just learned how I told you, Like

912
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: to take it easy on myself, don't try to do

913
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: too much.

914
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: Enjoy my baby. Enjoy that.

915
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: Now, break the generational curses. My mom had to go

916
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: straight back to work. I don't have to do that,

917
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: So take advantage of that. I have done enough work

918
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: that if I want to, I don't have to do anything.

919
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: I can just sit at home my baby if I

920
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: wanted to. I'm choosing to do this stuff because I

921
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: want to follow through with the project that I've been

922
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: working on. And you know, but you know, when I

923
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: want to, I can always just pick and choose the

924
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: things that matter to me most. And I don't have

925
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: to overextend myself.

926
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: And you do have that, and you've always had. You

927
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: have this air of like you're not pressed, Like you

928
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: have an air of like, yes, I'm an artist. You

929
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: know some artists you could you could almost feel how

930
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: badly they want something. You can always feel like you

931
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: know everything they do or how they present themselves is

932
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: like you could tell. You just have an air of

933
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: like you're not pressed about it.

934
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: It's funny because I talk to a therapist. And she

935
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: has other clients who are artists, and she says that

936
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: to you. She's always like, you know, my other artists clients,

937
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: they always want to talk about like issue like creative

938
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: issues or issues that they're having breaking through into this

939
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: or doing this or doing that with their job. And

940
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: she's like, we never talk about She's like, my stuff

941
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: is like always, like I said, my work, my art,

942
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: it's the least complicated part of my life, Like it's

943
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: the part where I just get to be free express myself.

944
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: The other parts of my life are the parts where

945
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, things can get more complicated.

946
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: But I love that you're doing therapy. Yeah. Is that

947
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: helping you with the grief?

948
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is. It has been super helpful. I

949
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: think in general, I think, you know, I believe that

950
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: everyone should have access to therapy because I just feel like,

951
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, everybody, everybody is capable to do a little

952
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: bit of work on themselves and what.

953
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Was your because I feel like everybody even though I

954
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: could tell you like I have like I love therapy,

955
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: even if I'm everything's good in my life, I still

956
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: do it.

957
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

958
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: To me, it's like you don't want to only do

959
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: it when you're in a crisis.

960
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: No, sometimes and I like my therapy, so I think

961
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: she's smart. So sometimes it's going to bounce an idea

962
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: or tell us something I did and I'm like, what

963
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: do you make of that? And now she knows me, So.

964
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: It's like an easy She's kind of like a life coach.

965
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Like a life is basically like that. But I also

966
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: have moments in my life where I could be like,

967
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: oh I got that from therapy. Oh I learned this

968
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: about myself from therapy. Like the things that a couple

969
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: of times where I had to pivot in my life

970
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: is because something was pointed out to me about how

971
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I was behaving or doing. You know. So I just

972
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: wonder if you have any of those in your life

973
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: where it's something that you learned about yourself in therapy

974
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: that changed your life.

975
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: You know what I did, but it's really personal, but

976
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: I will say that it was really important for me, Like,

977
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: especially going into becoming a mother, I was I really

978
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: just wanted to heal.

979
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go into.

980
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: Becoming a mother with like these wounds and carry that

981
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: on into that was like my biggest fear was to

982
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: carry that on into my own motherhood and I feel

983
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: like I have. Yeah, I feel like I definitely am

984
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: you know, on my own path and all of that, but.

985
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: You know, there's always more work to be done.

986
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, I never felt that I had really a

987
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: woman mentor in my life that I could talk like

988
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: how you said that you like to bounce ideas off

989
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: of her my therapist. She's a woman too, and she's

990
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: older than me, so I feel like I can I

991
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: can kind of check it with her and be like,

992
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: is this crazy? Am I being a rational to think this?

993
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: And shook kind of like, you know, bounce off. She'd

994
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 3: be like, well maybe, because you know, I've never had

995
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: a mentor. And I feel like, as women, it is

996
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: important for us to have a woman that we can

997
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: talk to for sure, that that can kind of give

998
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: us insight into into things that we might not have

999
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 3: thought of our our on our own.

1000
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: You know, why do you have no mentors this?

1001
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never had one like you need some,

1002
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: I know, right.

1003
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that don't do what you do, but

1004
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: but I'm older than you. I'll give you my number

1005
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: of you. Ever, there's not much I haven't seen or

1006
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: been through in this world or business. So there's ever anything,

1007
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: I appreciate it and that to you. Because I'm coming up,

1008
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: I didn't really have too many either. I had a

1009
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: lot of influences, yeah, like oh she's dope, but not

1010
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: like in my personal life where I could pick up

1011
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: the phone and be like is this crazy? People are

1012
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: treating me this way? And I don't, like, you know,

1013
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: just just the things that we go through and think about.

1014
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I think it's important.

1015
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: It's so important. Do you have young people that look

1016
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: to you for that? Because people love you by the way,

1017
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen like Sizza and JT. I feel

1018
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: like there's a community of women. Yeah.

1019
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I then I have like my friends.

1020
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: I have my friends that you know that are also

1021
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 3: in the industry that make music, that we talk and everything.

1022
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: But I don't I can't burden them with like my life,

1023
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: you know.

1024
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: I just I'm just that type of person where I

1025
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: don't like to really bother people with my problems. So

1026
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 3: I'm like her, I'm like, I pay her to be

1027
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: bothered with my problems. So I'm like, Okay, I can

1028
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: do it over here. But yeah, part of why I

1029
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: do that is so that I don't have to like

1030
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: go venting to my other friends, you know what I mean,

1031
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: because I feel.

1032
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Like it's too I don't want to like dump that

1033
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: on them, you know.

1034
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: I like so when I hang out my friends, just

1035
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: be able to have a good time, have fun, relax,

1036
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: like take.

1037
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: The edge off. Don't be just like, oh, you know,

1038
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: dropping all my stuff on that and whatnot.

1039
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: You know, of course, but it's okay sometimes though.

1040
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, sometimes it is.

1041
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: But you ever seem like like people really connect to you,

1042
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, are you like a girl's girl?

1043
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I say that I am. All

1044
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: of my friends are girls. I'm definitely not one of

1045
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: the guys type of girls.

1046
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Never been.

1047
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: But but yeah, it's nice.

1048
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: It's community though, How does that because you have a

1049
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: lot of artist friends too, right, Yeah, I'm missing somebody

1050
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: that I was trying to think of it just now

1051
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: that I saw a posted something Summer Summer are you

1052
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: friends with Yeah?

1053
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: Me and Summer Cool. Yeah, we went to dinner the

1054
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 3: other day. She's a really sweet girl. I like to Yeah,

1055
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: I keep in touch with all the girls. But you know,

1056
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: everybody has their own life, so you don't want to

1057
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: bother anybody too much, but it's nice to remember sometimes, like, yeah,

1058
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: the love that's out there. Like we went to Coachella

1059
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: last weekend and it was just cool because I was like,

1060
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, walking around and everybody be like, you know,

1061
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: respect like being super respectful. I love you so much,

1062
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 3: You're so beautiful. I love your work, and I'm like, oh,

1063
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: there's really so much love out here. Like everybody was

1064
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: just being very respectful and loving and sweet, and it

1065
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: felt like very genuine, Like everybody was just being really genuine.

1066
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you because I haven't been outside really

1067
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: in a type of space and that type.

1068
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: Of space, like I haven't done really shows or anything

1069
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: like that. I just do those couple of festivals, but

1070
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: I can't speak to anybody like that. So it was

1071
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: nice to be to kind of in passing with people

1072
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: that are feel alone, you know, and you know that

1073
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: we're kind So that's dope.

1074
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Are you going to be doing shows and stuff?

1075
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: Are you playing?

1076
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1077
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 6: Where?

1078
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna announce it after, you know, after the album,

1079
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: but it's in the works, So that's exciting.

1080
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I love that for you. Yeah, we have some in

1081
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: real life questions. I'm gonna ask you. Yeah, I know

1082
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: that was good, right, She didn't even know that was

1083
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: my in real life question. That's one of my one

1084
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: of my in real life what is it? What do

1085
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: you pray foremost?

1086
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: I will say, yes, how I said, I pray forgot

1087
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: to keep me on my path and guide me in

1088
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: the right.

1089
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Direction, way to go right, God's going to strike.

1090
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: I also, yeah, I pray, you know, for my family's health.

1091
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: I pray for my baby. The first thing that I

1092
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: always pray for is my baby, and then you know

1093
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: the rest of the family, everyone, I pray for the world.

1094
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: I pray for my relationship. I pray over us all

1095
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: the time because obviously this pray together we do.

1096
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: We do. We pray together.

1097
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: They say, you know the family that pray, we do

1098
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: pray together.

1099
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1100
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: I think just finding a balance between how I said,

1101
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: like being able to just silence all of the outside

1102
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: noise and stay focused on you know, we're just real people.

1103
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know you're very protective and private of your relationship,

1104
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: the same way of your baby, which I totally get

1105
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: to understand. But what have you learned about yourself in

1106
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: terms of like love or being in a relationship or

1107
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: what that takes or what have you learned from this relationship?

1108
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Hm hmmm.

1109
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: I would say that I've learned. Yeah, I've learned that

1110
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 3: privacy is really really important.

1111
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: Is it because of you're afraid of outside?

1112
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: And I think the main thing is, yeah, be like

1113
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: not like not letting outside noise affects the relationship because

1114
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: it's especially that you know, we're both in the public eye.

1115
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: So of course I understand that people naturally like be

1116
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: curious and be you know, start digging or be inquisitive

1117
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: or start throwing things here and there, and it's like

1118
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: it can just get a little bit. You have to

1119
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 3: be able to be like, Okay, online is not real life.

1120
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: You have to understand that the internet is in real

1121
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: life and you have to look at what's in front

1122
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: of you and like our every day like we're regular

1123
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: everyday people.

1124
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: You know.

1125
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: We get up, we play with our son, we go

1126
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: run errands, we go to the park, we do normal

1127
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: stuff on a day to day basis.

1128
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: So I grow up in a relation you didn't grow

1129
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: up with the most like somebody who showed you how

1130
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: to yeah, be in a healthy relationship.

1131
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never had that example, but I think that,

1132
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: you know, I really don't know pretty much. I don't

1133
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: know really anyway. Maybe I know my friends, one of

1134
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: my friend's parents, they seem like they have a healthy,

1135
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: you know, standing relationship, long time marriage. But yeah, I

1136
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: never really saw that, and you know, neither did he.

1137
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: So we're just figuring it out day by day. And

1138
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 3: the most important thing is, you know, keeping it healthy

1139
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: and keeping it you know, checking in with each other constantly.

1140
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the most important thing really, besides

1141
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: the balance and keeping the outside noise in.

1142
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: I think it's checking in with each other always.

1143
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he always checks in with me, make

1144
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 3: sure I'm okay, how am I feeling, and vice versa.

1145
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: I think as long as two people are doing that

1146
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: and just being like openly communicating, that's the most important part.

1147
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: That is really important.

1148
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then once a baby gets thrown in the mix, obviously,

1149
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: like you gotta still find time for their relationship because.

1150
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: Baby takes up so much of the of the time now.

1151
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, making sure that we still have those those

1152
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: date nights and the time for just us to, like

1153
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: I said, do normal stuff. It's super important, really really

1154
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: important to us just having a healthy, normal, balanced relationship.

1155
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Look at you you know, healthy therapy, doing therapy, healing.

1156
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to balance all of these things.

1157
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're doing amazing.

1158
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1159
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: I think you're doing amazing. I can't wait to hear

1160
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: this new music because none of your music doesn't stay

1161
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: in one pocket.

1162
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1163
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: No, this is your third English album.

1164
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would say it's my most cohesive body

1165
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: of work.

1166
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: I would say that, what do you mean.

1167
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: In the sense that the songs all kind of fit

1168
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: more hm thematically, They kind of fit more one tone

1169
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: and musically versus like like Godias for instance, it was

1170
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: like so, you know, it was so many different genres.

1171
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: There was there was a Roo, there was you know,

1172
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: all types of different sounds, and then this one it

1173
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: feels a lot more cohesive.

1174
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: Is there anything anything Spanish on.

1175
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: There isn't, but on the Delexe there is, Yeah, on

1176
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: the Deluxe there's some Spanish.

1177
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: You feel more comfortable in which pocket?

1178
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: I think?

1179
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I'm more comfortable in either one, but

1180
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: I would say I would say that I do feel

1181
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: that writing in English versus writing and Spanish, I kind

1182
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 3: of take on a different energy. I will say, really, Yeah,

1183
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: I would say that, Yeah, but it's the same as if,

1184
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: like if we were to be doing this interview in Spanish,

1185
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: it would it would have a different energy.

1186
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: You would be so mad because my Spanish is so bad.

1187
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: Really, yes, it's terrible, but I feel like people speak

1188
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: Spanish in New York.

1189
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: They do.

1190
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: We speak Spanglish, okay, because here out here nobody wants

1191
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: to speak Spanish, and that's why it's so hard to

1192
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 3: be consistent with My.

1193
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: Spanish is just bad. But I understand taking a different

1194
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: energy because it's so funny. My friends just make fun

1195
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: of me because when I grew up in an English

1196
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: speaking house, everybody know how to speak Spanish, but they

1197
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: spoke English to me, so it wasn't a natural thing

1198
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: for me to speak Spanish. But the only person that

1199
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: spoke Spanish to me was my great grandfather. Right, So

1200
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: as I started getting older, every time I would try

1201
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: to talk Spanish or I was forced to speak in Spanish,

1202
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: I would put this like persona of like an old man,

1203
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: like my voice, I swear to God, Like what what voice?

1204
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Where did you go? Like? My boys? Get deep?

1205
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: I took like a whole you were channeling grandfather. That's funny,

1206
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: I was.

1207
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: I will yeah, funny, Well, your son no Spanish? Will

1208
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: you teach him?

1209
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he already knows he does. Yeah, he does.

1210
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: Fully, he's blowing past me.

1211
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

1212
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: Most of his books is like Spanish and English book really, yeah,

1213
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 3: he learns everything.

1214
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: Word.

1215
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: When I teach him something, I'll be like, you know,

1216
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: out of a car, horsewid you know, it's always like

1217
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: the both both of the words.

1218
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: Amazing, lucky kid.

1219
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so smart.

1220
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: I would imagine that people try to put you in

1221
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: a box with that too, because there's so much like

1222
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the success of Bad Bunny

1223
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: and just Latin music globally now and what it's doing,

1224
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: and they see you and they're like, oh, she should.

1225
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm just she should whatever the thing is. Yeah, I

1226
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: feel like people probably have expectations or what they think

1227
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: you should be at all times.

1228
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's always been that's definitely

1229
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: always been something that's been hard for people to understand.

1230
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: I think duality in general is hard for people to

1231
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: wrap their heads around because there's really nobody else doing it,

1232
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 3: like me, Like, there just isn't you know, there's nobody

1233
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 3: making an English album and a Spanish album and They're

1234
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: just completely Like it's like if people make a Spanish

1235
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: almost like a Spanish version of English album or vice versa. Yeah,

1236
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: it's nobody who is having that duality is nobody. So

1237
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: it's like from the beginning of when I started making music,

1238
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 3: I think there was a lit of confusion and gray

1239
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: area around, like, so what is she? She collect me

1240
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: in the she American? They don't understand like that you

1241
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: can be both.

1242
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Both, you know what I'm saying.

1243
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: Did you always feel like both? Do you ever feel

1244
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: like it? Definitely one.

1245
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: I definitely always felt both.

1246
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't until I started realizing like people had such

1247
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: a problem with that that I was like, oh, like what,

1248
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 3: like am I am?

1249
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: I Like, no, I am, you know what I'm saying.

1250
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: Like, So, I think just you know, embracing who you

1251
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: are and not letting yourself get I think people just

1252
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: kind of want to wash out, you know, who we

1253
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: are a lot so that we can fit into one box.

1254
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: They want to package you.

1255
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And for me, it's always been so important to

1256
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: just stay true to who I am and don't let

1257
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: any of the you know, the this and the that,

1258
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: whether it be people in the industry, whether it be

1259
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: people that.

1260
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: Just online whatever matter or whatever to make me feel

1261
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: like I have to just stay to one thing.

1262
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, I'm gonna be too doing both,

1263
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: even when I like Okay, So my first full length album, Isolation,

1264
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: it was in English, but it had a song in

1265
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: Spanish on it, so some people knew me for that.

1266
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: And then when I did Teeniello, there was some English

1267
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: fans that were like mad because they're.

1268
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: Like, what is she doing. She's supposed to do something

1269
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: like Isolation.

1270
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1271
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: And then you know, they were like, oh, she's trying

1272
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: to cater to like a Latin audience now because whatever,

1273
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: like you know, coming up with all this stuff. And

1274
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 3: it's like, no, actually I can just do both, and

1275
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: so I will. And then when I came out my

1276
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: next album in English, then it's like, oh, but we

1277
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: want you know. It's like there's just always both sides

1278
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: of the table and it's always gonna be people asking

1279
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: for one or the other. We like this better, we

1280
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: like that better. But the thing is, when you can

1281
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: do more than one thing, I just feel like there's

1282
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: like God gave me that for a reason. God didn't

1283
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: give me my duality for no reason. God didn't make

1284
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: me bi cultural for no reason or bilingual for no reason.

1285
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: Why should I only do one? Why should I only

1286
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: do Spanish? Why should I only do English?

1287
00:56:59,840 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: One?

1288
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: I can do both. To me, that would be an

1289
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: insult to God, because like I was given that and

1290
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: I was born that way, and not everybody can do it.

1291
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: Yes, that is the one thing, right, Like, whoever you are,

1292
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: whatever he gives you, you're supposed to honor that you're

1293
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: not supposed to.

1294
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: And when I started making Spanish music, everybody was like,

1295
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: what the hell is this?

1296
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: Why is she doing Spanish music?

1297
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: Because I started that from my first album I did.

1298
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: I did a remix of one of the songs Tyran,

1299
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: I did whatever. I was doing little things here and there,

1300
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: and everybody was like, hmm, this isn't gonna go sweetie, because.

1301
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: The Spanglish music stuff is not a thing.

1302
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: And then now everybody's doing Spanish music, so it's like, yeah,

1303
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just very adamant to other young

1304
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: artists on like do you be you do what you

1305
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: want to do. A lot of there's a lot of

1306
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: for instance, like Latinos in the United States that just

1307
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: make music Spanish speaking music because they feel that they

1308
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: can't excel or succeed in an Anglo market because they're

1309
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: Latino or whatever. And they've come to me and they've said, like,

1310
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: how do you know? I want to be able to

1311
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: make an English album too, but my label tells me

1312
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: I have to just keep going with the Spanish music

1313
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: or whatever the case. And I just always tell people like,

1314
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: just do what you want to do. You just do

1315
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: what you want to do, because you're you're whoever, you're

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00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: a team or your whatever it is, whatever person is

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 3: telling you to stick to just one thing. I think,

1318
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's their job to think about how something

1319
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: is going to be marketable, profitable, whatever. It's your job

1320
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: to be an artist. So yeah, be an artist. Yeah, exactly,

1321
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: Just do just be creative and do what you want.

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Speaker 1: I think you got to also honor, Like I don't know,

1323
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: I think creativity is like a gift, right, So absolutely,

1324
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: It's like if you have disability and you've given this stuff,

1325
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: it's like you have to honor what is Yeah, not

1326
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: trying to be like, okay, let me take it in

1327
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: package it One of my favorite Quincy Jones things quotes

1328
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: he was talking about he did an interview, and he

1329
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: said that he would not like people in the room

1330
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: that we're talking about money, because he said, soon as

1331
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: you start talking about money in the studio, godwalk, God walks.

1332
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or people that are meeting in the studio like,

1333
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: all right, we gotta make this number one, We got

1334
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 3: to make this hit, we gotta make this whatever. I think,

1335
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: as soon as you just put yourself in that headspace,

1336
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: it's all.

1337
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: Being done for the reasons. Yeah for sure.

1338
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go our real life question. Okay, ready,

1339
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: in real life, how happy are you? Like I'm scared

1340
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, every episode.

1341
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: I would say I'm pretty happy, I would say. Generally speaking,

1342
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: i would say I'm.

1343
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: On an eight. Really, yeah, that's ampassing.

1344
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, up and down a year. And the fact that

1345
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: you could find that happiness in your life is amum,

1346
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: still happy every day.

1347
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: So I said, some days are better than others, some days

1348
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: are easier than others. But at the end of the day,

1349
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm still grateful. Like I'm really grateful. My life really

1350
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: could have took a turn for the worst. It could

1351
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: be in a way worse place than I am today.

1352
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: So I always have to be at the end of

1353
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: the day, happy for that and happy for my son.

1354
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for my son, the number would probably

1355
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: be like a two, you know what I'm saying. So

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: my son definitely is my main source of happiness in

1357
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: real life.

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Speaker 1: What was the last time you cried from gratitude?

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01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: Ooh, oh my son's birthday? Probably really yeah, two yours?

1360
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because because he was one.

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, just happy that he made it to one. You know,

1362
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: not everybody makes it to one.

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Speaker 2: That's just happy.

1364
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Speaker 1: Yeah. How often do you think about your legacy?

1365
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Speaker 2: Hmm?

1366
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: I can't say that it's never crossed my mind, but

1367
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: it's not something that I think about often.

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01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 2: I guess it's the best way to answer.

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Speaker 1: What would you like that to be? What do you

1370
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Speaker 1: think that it's going to be?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: I think I would just like to be remembered for

1373
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: my work, my art, being kind to others, being a

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Speaker 3: good person, being honest, being a badass.

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Speaker 4: Bitch, you know, you know, you know, things of that nature,

1376
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,959
Speaker 4: things of that tature in real life.

1377
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Speaker 1: What is the best and the worst decision you have

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Speaker 1: ever made?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I've made so many bad decisions, Like yes,

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Speaker 3: because I've lived and geez, like I've really lived.

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: Tell me, like, give me some examples. You don't have

1382
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: to go into the deep stories of it.

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: Can we just leave.

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01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: That in the past. The relationships mostly is it like

1385
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: bad choices or I would say a little bit of

1386
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: both vices.

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Speaker 3: I would be both. Yes, i would say I've made

1388
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: bad decisions all around. I've just always tried to I

1389
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 3: would say that I'm somebody who's never been afraid. I

1390
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: can't really think of anything I've ever been afraid of.

1391
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: So I never was scared to do something.

1392
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: That was wild.

1393
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: I was always just like forget.

1394
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: But so I do what I want to do, and

1395
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't really, you know, restrict myself in the past.

1396
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never had restrictions in regards to.

1397
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Speaker 3: Like what will people say, what would people think? How

1398
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 3: might this affect me later? How might this you know?

1399
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: I never had that. I just like move from the heart.

1400
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: My heart didn't always lead me to the right decisions,

1401
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: but good. The best decision I ever made was definitely

1402
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: having my baby, even though it's kind of like, no,

1403
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 3: it's okay, definitely having my baby.

1404
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you said one of the things

1405
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: you'd Likenacy being a babbage what makes you feel like

1406
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: a Babbage?

1407
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: Like?

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: What is? What is? When do you feel most like

1409
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: that bit? Like when are you in your bag and

1410
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: you feel sexy and you feel.

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01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 3: I think, I think when I just put on a

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01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 3: little outfit that I like, on a regular day, I

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01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: dress super tomboy.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: People always surprise myself because they're like, oh, you're so feminine,

1417
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: but this is just like you know, when I have

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01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 3: something to do, I get super girly.

1419
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: But on a regular day sometimes I do.

1420
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: Just boyish and I can still feel like a badbage.

1421
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: You know, I just have to, you know, put it on.

1422
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: If I put it on, then I'm just like feeling myself.

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: So good for you. Yeah, we should all feel ourselves. Yeah,

1424
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: I agree in real life? What do you hope people

1425
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, especially like fans or people even watching this

1426
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: now that are like relating to your story in whatever way?

1427
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: What do you What do you hope people take away

1428
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: from your life?

1429
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: I hope people take away, you know, just to to

1430
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: be themselves. Like for me, it makes me really sad

1431
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: that so many people spend their lives not doing or

1432
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: being who they want to be because they're worried about

1433
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: what other people will think what other people say about them,

1434
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: how their parents will react, how their significant other, you know,

1435
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: any any any outside voices that could deter them from

1436
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: living their truth or living there.

1437
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: You've never done that for me, No, Yeah, I was

1438
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: really young.

1439
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: I was really young. Well, I got kicked out of

1440
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: the house.

1441
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: You got kicked out.

1442
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got kicked out of the house. But I

1443
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: you know, when I left, I never went back. I

1444
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 3: you know, was able to to find my own way

1445
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: and find my own footing and make my own path

1446
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: in the world. And I think that that's really important

1447
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, you have to

1448
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: be happy for you and when it's your time to go,

1449
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: it's just going to be your time and nobody else's.

1450
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: You're not going to be on your deathbed like I

1451
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: wish I had worked more, or I wish I had

1452
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: done what. So you know, you know you're gonna be like, damn,

1453
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: I wish I could spend one last time with so

1454
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: and so, or I wish you know, you're gonna be

1455
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: thinking about the things that really matter. I try to

1456
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: just on an everyday basis. Remember, you know that the

1457
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: things that really matter, and that a lot of this

1458
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: other stuff actually doesn't hold any value at all, and

1459
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 3: that's what keeps me grounded on a day to day basis,

1460
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: And that's what I hope for other people to start

1461
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: living more like, because I think that we lose a

1462
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: lot of our lives in so much noise and so

1463
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: much you know, outside you know bullshit.

1464
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what do you want

1465
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: to do last? What do you want to do before

1466
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: that day? Is there anything on your list, like a

1467
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: bucket list thing or something you want to accomplish in

1468
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: this life?

1469
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: I do.

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01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 3: I do really want to make a movie, But more

1471
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 3: than anything, I'm just thinking about where to go next.

1472
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 3: Like maybe I've been thinking a lot about moving out

1473
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: of the country, taking my family out of the country,

1474
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: just becoming farmers. Like I want to try a different

1475
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: lifestyle at some point. I don't know exactly when, but

1476
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm just ready for a new lifestyle. And that's something

1477
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: that I really want to experience. I want to experience

1478
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: really just like, you know, waking up somewhere entirely new

1479
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: and figure out where I'm happiest and where it feels

1480
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: like my forever home and creating that.

1481
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: You were saying that you were eating and.

1482
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: Yes, just getting Yeah, I started getting more into you know,

1483
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't drink from plastic water bottles anymore.

1484
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see people do that, but I don't understand.

1485
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: So what does it come from? Okay, so you filter?

1486
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so the water bottles are supposedly don't don't quote me.

1487
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm not a scientist. I saw this somewhere.

1488
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and you believe it.

1489
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: And I believe this right the studies, so they say

1490
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: eighty percent of your microplastic intake comes from the plastic

1491
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: water bottles. Right, so just by cutting out plastic water bottles,

1492
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: you're already saving yourself. All those microplastics, which they've been

1493
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: proven to lodge into our brains, get into our blood stream.

1494
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: We are plastic at this point, right, So all of

1495
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: that has health effects down the line.

1496
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1497
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: Lah lah la la la.

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01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I was pregnant at the time, my

1499
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 3: mom had just got her diagnosis. I'm like, I started

1500
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: getting a little bit.

1501
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: You know, scared.

1502
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: Someone say overboard, some might say cuck cool, but I

1503
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: started getting really like, you know, I was like, you know,

1504
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: when my son's born, I don't even want him to

1505
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: touch synthetic clothing. I don't you know everything that I

1506
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: have is like well Cashmere organic car in you know,

1507
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put him in like the little the little

1508
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: tub because I'm like, it's plastic and the hot water

1509
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 3: is going to put the plastic in his skin and

1510
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: this and all that, and I started.

1511
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: Getting just really really you know all about it.

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01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 3: So I started working on this. Yeah, I started working

1513
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: on this line. I was driving everybody crazy. I started

1514
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: working on this line because it'd be like, you know,

1515
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 3: if you want to hold my baby, you need to

1516
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 3: put this organic cotton T shirt on it, you need

1517
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: to take your polyestra clothes off. So it was it

1518
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 3: was that far. So I'm like, okay, I started working

1519
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: on this line. Everything is just organic, natural, la la la.

1520
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: This ghost.

1521
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 3: This is in regards to you know, natural fragrance because

1522
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: also synthetic fragrance disrupts the hormones. It's not good to

1523
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: be in our air. So this was going for the candle.

1524
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: The clothing I tried.

1525
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: The cream was really nice, thank you, thank you, not

1526
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: like greasy and it's not I don't know, it's thank you.

1527
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: And a lot of people got confused because I did

1528
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: do a lip bomb. They thought this was going to

1529
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: be like a beauty line, but it's not a beauty line.

1530
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: I actually don't even plan to continue the lip bombs.

1531
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 3: I want to fully go in the direction of like

1532
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: wellness and almost more like home goods self care, right,

1533
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: Like this is more like home goods, do more stuff

1534
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: that's a little bit more.

1535
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: It's it's not homebody, home body. Yeah, get into the apparel,

1536
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: the pails about the job soon. So it's like you.

1537
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 6: Know at leisure and lounge wear that it's all organic

1538
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 6: cotton or organic silk or organic wool, cashmere like all

1539
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 6: of that.

1540
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a little bit.

1541
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: But I have calmed down off of it now that

1542
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: my baby's bigger, you know, I I have I allow

1543
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 3: him now to have a couple of you know, he

1544
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 3: could play with with certain plastic toys that I know

1545
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: are too big that he's not gonna try to chew

1546
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: on them. But I was really crazy about like I

1547
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: don't want my sun chewing on plastic, you know what

1548
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I don't want him. It's like certain

1549
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: things that I was just like only wooden and what's

1550
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: it called silicone toys? Only only this only that I was.

1551
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: Being really still not drinking water bottles.

1552
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: I'm still not drinking water bottles.

1553
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: No, Look that's your water jug over there. Yeah, so

1554
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: what do you filter?

1555
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1556
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: So I have a filter water system in my house.

1557
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: And also, you know, for people that can't get a

1558
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 3: filter water system, if you boil your water, you take

1559
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: a lot of the microplastics out.

1560
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: Of your water and a lot of the you know,

1561
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: other stuff out of your water.

1562
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: So so you boil it and then just keep it

1563
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: in the fridge and like a glass.

1564
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I already have I have a system. I

1565
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 3: have a system and my don't in my house. But

1566
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: for people who don't have a system, yeah, they can.

1567
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 3: They can boil their water and that helps the water.

1568
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: Bit. Do you feel different? Like, is your skin different?

1569
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: Is your light? Like since you've been living like this,

1570
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: is there a difference?

1571
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 3: I feel like my skins started like got different after

1572
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: I stopped drinking.

1573
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: I've been sober for what is it two almost three

1574
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: years now? I think it's three years this summer, I believe.

1575
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 3: So I feel like that was the main thing that

1576
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 3: started my skin guard a lot better.

1577
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: What was that the same thing or you just know

1578
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: that I.

1579
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 3: Wanted to see how Yeah, that was before that was

1580
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 3: actually yeah, when I was young. When I was young,

1581
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 3: I had my my little alcoholic phase as a teenager.

1582
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, I did that.

1583
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: You know, I had to get my stomach pumped at

1584
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: one point, went through all of those type.

1585
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: Of things, drugs too, or just you know, I was

1586
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:53,919
Speaker 2: just a weed smoker.

1587
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: I was never into drugs, but yeah, so I really

1588
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: just wanted to see how long I could go with it.

1589
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: I I just kind of realized as an adult, I

1590
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: was like, I really don't ever drink because I want

1591
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 3: to drink. I'm more so drinking because everybody else is like,

1592
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: let's have fun, da da da da, And I'm like, well,

1593
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 3: I can have fun without drinking, Like, let me.

1594
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: Just just try this.

1595
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I just went forward and haven't gone back.

1596
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: And I'm really surprised that I haven't smoked, because a

1597
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 3: lot of times when I smell weed, I will start to,

1598
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: you know, get that little get those little urges. But yeah, no,

1599
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: I've been just fully souber s.

1600
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: About it.

1601
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, maybe one day.

1602
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not opposed to maybe smoking again one day,

1603
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: but I'm.

1604
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: Kind of just happy, That's what I'm saying.

1605
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm happy with where I'm at right now, and I'm

1606
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 3: good with the headspace that I'm int.

1607
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: So where do people get these products?

1608
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 3: Is it's like out it's just online right now. We're

1609
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: talking to a lot of different stores that have a

1610
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: lot of interest. But when I go on tour, they're

1611
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 3: going to be available on tour as well.

1612
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to be taking them on tours.

1613
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, can we have a one tape please?

1614
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 6: We call

1615
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 5: Nay H