WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Incredible Shrinking Man

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Lamp and this is Joe McCormick. And today's movie on

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<v Speaker 1>Weird House Cinema is the nineteen fifty seven introspective science

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<v Speaker 1>fiction adventure The Incredible Shrinking Man, directed by Jack Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>and based on a screenplay by Richard Matheson. And man,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to say this one totally surprised me. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not what I was expecting at all for a

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<v Speaker 1>late fifties shrink movie from the director of Tarantula. I

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting something much sillier and much campier, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>what we got here is in many ways a rather

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtful and fascinating science fiction tale about the search for

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<v Speaker 1>meaning and dignity in the face of absurdity and doom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I suspect that a lot of the intelligence and

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<v Speaker 1>the soul of this movie is sort of there on

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<v Speaker 1>the page, like it comes from the story by Matheson.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the special effects are excellent for the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the performances in this movie are very

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a nuanced and warmly human This was a

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<v Speaker 1>shockingly great film and not at all what I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to get based on the title and

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<v Speaker 1>the premise. Yeah, yeah, I had the same experience with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I'd ever seen from this film is

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<v Speaker 1>I'd seen a kind of famous sequence from it in

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<v Speaker 1>which a tiny man has been reduced to the size

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<v Speaker 1>of a doll is hunted by his own housecat in

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<v Speaker 1>his living room, and I believe I saw it in

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<v Speaker 1>and it came from Hollywood, that older picture that had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of trailers and clips and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>joking and riffing of the material there. M the riffing

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't particularly funny, but in isolation that that sequence was

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<v Speaker 1>amusing and kind of hilarious, and I just figured, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the film would kind of fallow suit.

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<v Speaker 1>And we ended up picking this one up because we

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<v Speaker 1>were actually, I think we're going to watch the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>Colossal Man, right. I went to Video Drum to rent

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<v Speaker 1>it and it's not available on disc anywhere, and which

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah, yeah, yeah, but they said, well, we do

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<v Speaker 1>have the Incredible Shrinking Man, and not only do we

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<v Speaker 1>have it, we have it in this excellent Criterion collection edition.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, well, I didn't think this was

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<v Speaker 1>the type of film that really merited that sort of treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>But it looks looks interesting. I love that one sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's check it out, and here we are. Well. This

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<v Speaker 1>is another way I was surprised because I having so,

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<v Speaker 1>I had also seen the cat attack part of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie in isolation, in which it seemed quite funny to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but in context I saw it in a whole new light,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'd seen the exact same footage before, in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of the plot, I found it a rather

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<v Speaker 1>frightening and effective action set piece. Absolutely, yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the effects and this are are great for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>They were ambitious for the day. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't you can't look back in a film like this

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<v Speaker 1>without seeing a few scenes in the special effects generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the case here. But by and large everything

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<v Speaker 1>looks looks wonderful. And if you take the film in

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<v Speaker 1>its entirety and you let it to do its work

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<v Speaker 1>on you, yeah, everything holds up really well. Another way

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<v Speaker 1>in which I think we have to take it as

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<v Speaker 1>from its time is I did say the film is

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<v Speaker 1>very like thoughtful and introspective, which it is, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that thoughtfulness and introspection comes in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of ponderously delivered uh stentorian narration. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the voiceover narration that like tells you all

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<v Speaker 1>of the main character's inner thoughts about his own search

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<v Speaker 1>for meaning is maybe a bit blustery, and its delivery,

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<v Speaker 1>but nevertheless, like the sentiments expressed in the writing in

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<v Speaker 1>those sections I think are really good. Yeah. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it does have to deal with like fifties American masculinity,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are plenty of nineteen fifties pictures that we've

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<v Speaker 1>watched that have that that masculinity of the time period

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<v Speaker 1>prominently featured. But usually it's not self reflective. Usually it's

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<v Speaker 1>not at all analyzing what this is that? What is this? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What are these ideas? These fears and expectations that everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>trapped with them? Right? Instead, it's usually just like, here

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<v Speaker 1>is your your jaw line, who's ready to punch the

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<v Speaker 1>alien that stands in for a communist? Yeah? It. As

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it, I kept thinking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about the television series mad Men, and in fact, my

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<v Speaker 1>elevator pitch would be what if the male characters and

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<v Speaker 1>Madmen physically shrunk and were attacked by their own cats

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<v Speaker 1>and household pests. I mean that nails it. The main

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<v Speaker 1>character in this movie is literally an advertising I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's an executive, but he's he works in advertising.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an adolist. Right, three interesting stats just for weird

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<v Speaker 1>house cinema here. This is our second Jack Arnold picture.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our second Richard Mathison screenplay, and it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>our second miniaturization film. We'd previously discussed nineteen forties Doctor Cyclops,

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<v Speaker 1>which Doctor Cyclops also had really excellent special effects for

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<v Speaker 1>the time. That was a great looking movie, though, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this one is a lot more interesting in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the characters. Yeah, definitely. The other Jack Arnold movie

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<v Speaker 1>was Tarantula, which was not nearly as good as this,

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<v Speaker 1>but was a lot of fun in that camp here direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I was expecting this time. What was the other Mathison movie?

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<v Speaker 1>The other Mathison picture was The Devil Rides Out. It

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<v Speaker 1>was he was adapting someone else's novel, a Wheatly novel. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in this picture he adapts his own awful simon I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather see you dead than dabbling with shrink missed. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and listen to the trailer. Some trailer

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<v Speaker 1>audio here. This one's a lot of fun, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love how this one begins with the incredible shrinking man shrinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You are getting smaller. There's no medical precedent for what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening to you. I simply know that you're getting smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to stop thinking about us, our marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Some awful things might happen. So long as you got

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<v Speaker 1>this wedding ring on, you got me. This is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well speaking, I have forty five seconds to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about something I think you will remember the longest day

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<v Speaker 1>you live. It's about a man named Scott Kerrey. A

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<v Speaker 1>few months ago, he was six feet two inches tall

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<v Speaker 1>and weigh one hundred and ninety pounds. Today he's two

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<v Speaker 1>inches tall and you can hold him in the palm

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<v Speaker 1>of your hand. Now he lives in a world where

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<v Speaker 1>he must stride for his life, a world or a

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<v Speaker 1>friendly housecat is a predatory monster. Incredible because it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>beyond a Magini. Incredible because every hour he gets smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and smallow. Incredible because every month the paramounts. A note

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<v Speaker 1>before we keep going, if you want to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We watched it on the Excellent Criterion Collection disc,

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<v Speaker 1>which features a great four K digital restoration of the

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<v Speaker 1>film itself and a load of great extras. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to go through all the extras, but I went

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<v Speaker 1>through some of them and there they're pretty great. Highly

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<v Speaker 1>recommend this edition. It's available on DVD and Blu Ray

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<v Speaker 1>rented the Blue from Videodrome. It's also available for digital

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<v Speaker 1>rental on most platforms. All right, well, let's start talking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the people involved here. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these are people we've covered before, in which case I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and cover them in just a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little differently than before. But yeah, at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the picture we have Jack Arnold, the director. He lived

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twelve through nineteen ninety two. Again, this is our

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<v Speaker 1>second Jack Arnold film, following nineteen fifty fives Tarantula. He

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<v Speaker 1>learned cinematography and filmmaking under Robert J. Flaherty while serving

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<v Speaker 1>in the US military in World War Two, and following

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<v Speaker 1>the war, started the Promotional Films Company with Lee Goldman.

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<v Speaker 1>He directed the nineteen forty eight short Chicken Off Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is riffed on Mystery Sense three thousands. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'd seen this one many times, but I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know until this week. But it was a Jack Arnold production.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never seen this in full, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it rift, but I was skipping around in the

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<v Speaker 1>link you sent me, and there are parts where like

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<v Speaker 1>it shows maps and the map se the animated map

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<v Speaker 1>segments reminded me of the World War Two propaganda films

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<v Speaker 1>that Walt Disney made, like Victory through Air Power. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it did. It makes sense given where he

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<v Speaker 1>came out off where he learned his craft, and in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty he directed the International Ladies Garment Workers Union

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<v Speaker 1>documentary With These Hands, which was nominated for an Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>This immediately caught my eye because, okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>an independent promotional film for the i LGWU, But the

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<v Speaker 1>International Ladies Garment Workers Union is also the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>my long time favorite commercial that appears on many tapes

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<v Speaker 1>of the Star Wars Holiday Special where they sing the

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<v Speaker 1>union song you know, you know the one I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>the one? Yeah, yeah, uh, it's it's great. It's tied

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<v Speaker 1>from my favorite with Tobar. Of course, you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>co worker Annie Reese really wants to come on the

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<v Speaker 1>show and discuss about the Star Wars holiday special this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He has made it known. Oh Annie and I have

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the the International Ladies Garment Workers Union commercial and

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<v Speaker 1>Tobar the telesonic robot a number of times, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can maybe when she does come, we can do a

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<v Speaker 1>full ranking of all the holiday special commercials. Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, with these hands was was a hit, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>win the Oscar, but was nominated, and this enough, it

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<v Speaker 1>was enough to catch the attention of Universal Studios, so

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<v Speaker 1>they signed Jack Arnold on as one of their directors.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mentioned there's a great there's some great extras

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<v Speaker 1>on that Criterion collection disc and there's a great about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour long bio about Arnold's career. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they stress in it is that when

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<v Speaker 1>you got hired by a major film studio as a

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<v Speaker 1>director during this period, you were expected to deliver on

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they needed. So a studio like Universal, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to bust out the full menu of films. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just the pricey specials. They also had had appetizers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they had to have the crowd pleasers, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they had their prestige titles all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to the genre dregs, and certainly in this time

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you would find your science fiction. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you are a studio employeed director like Jack Arnold at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, you're probably not doing a lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>many people probably imagine director is doing today, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like striking out on their own with like a script

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<v Speaker 1>that they're really excited about and then finding funding for

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<v Speaker 1>that and putting together a production. It's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like work for hire, like studio says, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the movie you're making. Yeah. Yeah, they might assigned you

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<v Speaker 1>a western, and a horror, a sci fi film, you

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<v Speaker 1>name it, and it was up to you to make

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<v Speaker 1>it work and deliver. I guess this was reference to

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<v Speaker 1>a good bit in the Collen Brothers film the titles

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<v Speaker 1>alluding me at the moment wrestling pictures. Oh, Barton Fink.

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<v Speaker 1>Barton Fink. Yes, he was a writer, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>very much in the in the studio system and was

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<v Speaker 1>expected to deliver what they needed. He was going to

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<v Speaker 1>write for Wallace Beery or something. Yeah. So Arnold comes

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<v Speaker 1>aboard their universal and the first thing they give him

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<v Speaker 1>his nineteen fifty threes Girls in the Night. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a troubled youth picture with with fittingly aged youths, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that are clearly like in their their thirties or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But he apparently did well with it and he was

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<v Speaker 1>handed it came from Outer Space, which ultimately came out

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<v Speaker 1>the same year. Now I haven't seen it came from

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<v Speaker 1>outer Space, but the way they were discussing it in

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<v Speaker 1>this extra made it sound like something we might want

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<v Speaker 1>to check out sometime, because it was based on a

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<v Speaker 1>story treatment from Ray Bradberry, and it was pretty ambitious

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<v Speaker 1>and ahead of its time in many ways. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of these films where the aliens are not villainous

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<v Speaker 1>but merely just difficult to understand. And also this is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy too. You were actually never meant to see

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<v Speaker 1>the aliens. And this is the way they initially shot

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<v Speaker 1>the picture and approached the picture. It wasn't until the

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<v Speaker 1>studio basically had some time to think about this and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, look, we can't put nothing on a poster.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to put a monster on the poster. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a monster movie, Gosh darnett. So they ended up

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<v Speaker 1>having to compromise and actually came up with like a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting looking creature to fit in there. And still

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<v Speaker 1>that even though they had to compromise, the results were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be pretty good. Oh, I would be absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>game to talk about this one. So that film was

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<v Speaker 1>a hit, and for a long stretch it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cemented Arnold's place as their sci fi guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was a solid position even though you're further

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<v Speaker 1>down the ranks in fifties Hollywood. His follow up, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>when we look back on Jack Arnold's pictures like this

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe the one that made the biggest impact on

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<v Speaker 1>popular culture nineteen fifty four's Creature from the Black Lagoon,

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<v Speaker 1>the Creature from which, of course becomes one of the

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<v Speaker 1>pantheon of universal monsters, the big ones you know about,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, and it really just strikes through to the

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<v Speaker 1>public horror consciousness, becomes this enduring pop culture figure and

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge hit at the time, so huge that

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<v Speaker 1>it actually inspired a sequel, which wasn't like the normal

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<v Speaker 1>like nowadays we just think, you know, that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>assume is going to happen. If there's not a sequel,

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<v Speaker 1>then I guess the first one wasn't successful, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a given back in the day, so he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up doing the sequel, which is not as good or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's hard to really judge the Creature

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<v Speaker 1>films because the first one is it's both mostly about

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<v Speaker 1>just how good that creature suit looks. Yeah, the first

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<v Speaker 1>one I think of as wonderfully atmospheric and having that

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<v Speaker 1>great monster in it. But I've seen it several times

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<v Speaker 1>and I really couldn't tell you anything about the human characters.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recall at all. Yeah, yeah, I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>the humans come off as jerks, like they come to

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<v Speaker 1>where the creature lives and they start shooting at him

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. They're like, he's not attacking cities or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just hanging out in a bog or in a

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<v Speaker 1>lake somewhere in the jungle and they come to him. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of hard to digest that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the second one they kind of rehash it, except they

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<v Speaker 1>make the suit look goofy, like the eyes look goofy

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<v Speaker 1>in the second one. Yeah, And then the third one

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<v Speaker 1>is more disturbing, and perhaps there's a lot to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about with the third one, but also it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as fun. It's the first one by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, it was a huge hit. Arnold comes back

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<v Speaker 1>with Tarantula, which we've talked about on the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in nineteen fifty seven he pulls off easily as

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<v Speaker 1>greatest achievement in sci fi cinema, the Incredible Shrinking Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we've been saying, it's really the total package,

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<v Speaker 1>a big budget effects movie for the time and for

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<v Speaker 1>the genre, with a great, intelligent script built on solid performances.

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<v Speaker 1>This wouldn't be his last sci fi film, but outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the sheer popularity of the creature itself from Creature

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<v Speaker 1>from the Black Lagoon, this one is kind of his

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<v Speaker 1>career defining film. Okay, Now, we also talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>this film benefits from some excellent writing by Richard Matheson.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Richard Mathison lived nineteen twenty six through twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>American writer who's in large part I think best remembered

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<v Speaker 1>for his nineteen fifty four novel I Am Legend, But

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<v Speaker 1>for a few different reasons, like some people who just

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<v Speaker 1>are really fond of the book, and I've loved the book,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't read it in many years, but I read it

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times and loved it. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>it became the basis for I think three different film

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation sixty four is The Last Man on Earth starring

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent Price, nineteen seventy ones, The Omega Man starring Chuck Heston,

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<v Speaker 1>and then two thousand and sevens I Am Legend starring

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith, each one a very distinct, very said in

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<v Speaker 1>its time adaptation of the source material. I got an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>someday we should do three weeks in a row where

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<v Speaker 1>we do all three of these movies. It could be fun,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be we could learn a lot about ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah. But it was wasn't a one trick pony.

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<v Speaker 1>He also wrote the excellent Haunted House novel hell House,

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<v Speaker 1>the thriller Duel, The Shrinking Man. All of these were

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<v Speaker 1>adapted into films A Duel by young Steven Spielberg. Some

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<v Speaker 1>other books he had to adapted included What Dreams May

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<v Speaker 1>Come and A Stir of Echoes. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote a screenplay for this movie based on the

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<v Speaker 1>novel he had published just the previous year. I think, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was still hot. It's still hot. Yeah. He also

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a lot of TV, including sixteen episodes the original

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone, including such episodes as Nightmare at twenty thousand Feet.

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<v Speaker 1>He also wrote for such shows as Night Gallery, The

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<v Speaker 1>Original Star Trek, The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, and Thriller. So

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<v Speaker 1>as as we've been discussing an Incredible Shrinking Man based

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<v Speaker 1>on The Shrinking Man the novel, and yeah, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just about the fantas pastic scenario of gradual miniaturization,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is this kind of analysis and rumination on

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<v Speaker 1>masculine ideals in middle class America of the time. The

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<v Speaker 1>book and this movie would also serve as inspiration for

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<v Speaker 1>The Incredible Shrinking Woman in nineteen eighty one that was

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<v Speaker 1>scripted by Jane Wagner, and I believe that was directed

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<v Speaker 1>by Joel Schumacher. Oh okay, I personally haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hear it's good and it's a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to take this older movie that is all

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<v Speaker 1>about like masculine miniaturization and what does that mean if

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<v Speaker 1>you approach it from a feminine perspective. Oh, I just

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<v Speaker 1>looked up. Is Lily Tomlin this character? She's our shrinker, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our shrunken man in this film, however, playing the character

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Carey is the actor Grant Williams, who of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one through nineteen eighty five. Williams was a versatile

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<v Speaker 1>American actor of stage, TV, and screen. It noted in

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<v Speaker 1>the Criterion Collection edition that his casting in this film

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<v Speaker 1>was very much that of an ascendant talent who could

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<v Speaker 1>play a relatable character as opposed to what you sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>got in genre films of the day, some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>pure Hollywood actor type who's kind of, you know, square

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<v Speaker 1>jawed guy who's sort of fallen down the ladder of

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<v Speaker 1>success and winds up in your B picture or your

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<v Speaker 1>genre picture. But yeah, Grant, Grant Williams does a really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a great job and it's very tremendous, a

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<v Speaker 1>very sort of isolated, self reflective kind of performance. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy had a little bit less of the stink of

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<v Speaker 1>Westerns than a lot of fifties sci fi movie protagonists do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you mean. Like you, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at him and you don't instantly think wins. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>gonna punch somebody. Yeah. So Williams had had smaller roles

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<v Speaker 1>in TV and film before this, but what really made

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<v Speaker 1>him stand out was a bit performance in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six film a Rock Hudson picture titled written on

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<v Speaker 1>the wind. It's I think he's like a gas station

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<v Speaker 1>attendant in it or something. Not a very big part,

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<v Speaker 1>but it made an impact. And Yeah, the incredible Shrinking

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<v Speaker 1>Man is a great showcase for his acting talents and

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<v Speaker 1>allows him to really stand out. He followed this up

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<v Speaker 1>with the lead role in the Monolith Monsters, an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>looking picture from one of the writers of Tarantula, and

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that a bit in our Tarantula episode,

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<v Speaker 1>though I have not seen it. Yeah, I've eyed Monolith

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<v Speaker 1>Monsters for Weird House before. Yeah, because that one, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the basic idea is, let's do you know a fifties

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<v Speaker 1>monster movie, but the monsters are geology. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible idea. So it's like I have to I

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<v Speaker 1>have to look and see, you know, or it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like an idea the studio might have stumbled over. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Williams found some success here. Then he moved from Universal

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<v Speaker 1>to Warner Brothers in fifty nine. He did various TV

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<v Speaker 1>and film roles after that. Some of the standouts include

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties The Leech One. This is one that was

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<v Speaker 1>also featured on A Mystery Science Theater. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that has a great line from The Leech Woman

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<v Speaker 1>where she says, you will never escape me. You are

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<v Speaker 1>the one in my dreams of blood. Great line. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not supposed to be romantic exactly, but anyway. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also in sixty three s p. Two one oh nine,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one's Brain of Blood in nineteen seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>is Doomsday Machine. He did fifty episodes of TV's Hawaiian I,

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<v Speaker 1>and he pops up in one episode of the original

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<v Speaker 1>The Outer Limits. He also did one episode of The Munsters.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is he a boyfriend that Marilyn Munster brings home?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he gets scared and runs away, and they said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you did it again one of sims. Yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's the I mean, he's the centerpiece in this picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of your screen time is spent with him. But

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<v Speaker 1>we also have a major character in Louise Carry his

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<v Speaker 1>wife played by Randy Stewart who of nineteen twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>through nineteen ninety six, she was an actor in numerous

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<v Speaker 1>popular movies of the forties and fifties like Late Forties

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<v Speaker 1>and the Fifties, and later a frequent TV player. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a supporting player in Howard Hawks. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>male war bride from nineteen forty nine, All about Eve

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen fifty and she did a lot of TV

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and westerns leading into The Incredible Shrinking Man, and afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>it was mostly TV westerns and police shows until the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineteen seventies. Now, there's another female character in this

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll discuss when we get more into the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a character named Clarisse, played by April Kent,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen thirty five through nineteen ninety eight. She

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<v Speaker 1>has only six film credits to her name. She was

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<v Speaker 1>the daughter of noted actor June Havoc who lived nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twelve through twenty ten, and was niece of the legendary

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<v Speaker 1>burlesque dancer Gypsy Rose League, who lived nineteen eleven through

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy. She's only in a couple of scenes, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's very good. She's kind of the soul of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie in a way. Yeah, Yeah, you're right, Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>Shrinking Man also has a brother named Charlie. Charlie is

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<v Speaker 1>played by Paul Lankton, who lived nineteen thirteen through nineteen

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 1>eighty TV and film actor who appeared on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of the Twilight Zones, a nineteen fifty four Yetti

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.199
<v Speaker 1>movie called The Snow Creature, and nineteen fifty eight it

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<v Speaker 1>The Terror from Beyond Space, which I've I've heard great

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<v Speaker 1>things about that one might be wanted to look at

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. This guy is your square job. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he plays just kind of like he's like a business executive.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember him being super notable. No, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know who is notable. Oh my god, a feline actor.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get to talk about feline actors. I'm weird

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<v Speaker 1>health cinema. But the cat plays Butch the cat rng

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<v Speaker 1>not super creative name, Butch also kind of a strange

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<v Speaker 1>name for a cat, it seems to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why. I don't know. I think Butch could work

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<v Speaker 1>for a rough and tumble tom cat, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>an indoor outdoor cat that shows up bleeding from a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fights, that sort of thing. But RNG Orang

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<v Speaker 1>is very much the sort of name that, hey, that

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<v Speaker 1>a toddler gives a stuffed cat. Yeah. But Orange, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a presence in this film, and not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the attack scene. There are there's some interesting moments from

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<v Speaker 1>before that that that sort of ride the line between

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<v Speaker 1>cute and ominous, especially because you sort of sense what

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<v Speaker 1>may be coming. They're basically two ways of looking at

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Orange as a as a career actor in Hollywood. Either

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<v Speaker 1>this is one cat, and I tend to maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>want to side with that because that sounds it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a better story that way. But it's also possible that

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<v Speaker 1>this was more than one cat that was marketed as

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<v Speaker 1>Orange to Hollywood. So I'm probably gonna lean more into

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of this being an individual cat that lived

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty through nineteen sixty seven because Orange had star power.

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Orange was a rare male Marmalade tabby cat owned and

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<v Speaker 1>trained by the famous Hollywood animal handler Franked in Ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Other animals included the dogs of the Binge franchise WHOA Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Orange is a true Hollywood legend and the only

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<v Speaker 1>two time winner of the Patsy Award that's Picture Animal

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<v Speaker 1>Top Star of the Year, which the American Humane Association

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<v Speaker 1>put off. What do you think Orange's a reward was

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 1>when he won this prize? You get like three whole

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>cans of tuna to himself, just faced down in the can,

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I would hope. So, so, what pictures was Orange in Well,

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 1>between nineteen fifty one and nineteen sixty five, Orange was

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<v Speaker 1>in Rhubard, which I think is about a capinos, a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball team or something. This Island Earth, Oh, The Incredible

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Shrinking Man, Obviously, The Matchmaker, The Diary of Anne Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>plays a cat that almost gives up Anne Frank's family

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<v Speaker 1>to the Nazis. Oh, No, Visit to a Small Planet,

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast at Tiffany's Okay, Gidget, The Comedy of Terrors, and

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Village of the Giants. Oh that's a mister big movie. Yeah.

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>On the small screen, he acted in such shows as

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Alfred Presents, The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Beverly Hillbillies,

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>My Favorite Martian, Mission Impossible, and the old Batman TV series.

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Was he a villain on Batman called Orange? I don't know, because,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes you just need a cat for a

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<v Speaker 1>small part of the set. Sometimes you need a cat

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to try and eat your hero. So it varies what

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to bring Orange in for. But Orange, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to work with a number of actors, and these

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>are actors that he actually shared scenes with. Audrey Hepburn,

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Basil Rathbone, Boris Karloff, Vincent Price, Peter Lourie amazing. Yeah,

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of these actors petted this cat. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's scenes of like Vincent Price holding Orange, There's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a you can see screenshots of like Boris Karloff

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>pretending to be dead while Orange is on his chest.

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes he's right up in there. Of all those actors,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think gives the best pets? M Vincent

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Price right, oh yeah, the Vincent Price belly rubs are superb. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Orange was apparently not the nicest cat. As is sometimes

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the case with human actors. He often lashed out at

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.959
<v Speaker 1>his co stars. He might bite them or scratch them.

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>He might leave the set for no apparent reason, shutting

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>down the production, which again some human actors may do

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>this from time to time. But he was all Orange. Yeah,

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can imagine Orangey only communicating with the

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>director via post it notes, that sort of thing. But

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>he was also considered like the best and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're also it's basically, I mean, you're hiring Frank end

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for his animals. And one of the things about Orangey

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>is that Orange was not as prone to watering off

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the set cats as many filmmakers have testified too over

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the years are harder to work with than dogs. It's

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>harder to convince them to do what you need them

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to do for a given shot or sequence. Orange was

0:27:55.040 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Brando filming The Island of Doctor Moreau just basically yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing some extras where the Coen Brothers were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about filming with a cat on what was it,

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the Lowen davi the Lewen Davis movie, the Folksinger movie. Yeah. Yeah,

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 1>there's a cat that plays a prominent role in the plot,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, it was so hard to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>with this cat. Will never make a film with a

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>cat again. Oh that makes sense, But but that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comes through in the movie because the point of

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>the cat is that, like he's trying to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>from getting away. I think, yeah, yeah, all right. Some

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>other bit players in this um So Raymond Bailey, who

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>live nineteen oh fourth through nineteen eighty plays one of

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>two doctors that our hero goes to, our main character

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>goes to. Um We've talked about him before because he

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>was in Tarantula. He played a character with a him

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of Townsend, and he's probably best remembered for playing mister

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Drysdale on the Beverly Hill Bill. He's from nineteen sixty

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>through nineteen seventy one. Oh is this the first doctor

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that the dude goes to? This is the This is

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>not the any doctor, This is the other doctor. So

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>this might be the later doctor. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>mister Drysdale, Okay, yeah, later doctor. I seemed Tarantula. I

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>don't remember who Townsend was. It's it's hard to remember

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>anyone other than our two main characters, the Tarantula and

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Clint Eastwood in that movie. Yeah. Well then of course

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:24.239
<v Speaker 1>um our scientist Leo G. Carroll with a mutated face. Yes, right,

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>they're multiple memorable characters, but Raymond Bailey's not one of them. Okay,

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think Raymond Bailey played the small town

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>doctor in Tarantula who's arguing with John Agar about who

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>died of what reason? Yes, I believe so. Yeah. Now

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the other doctor in this is played by William Shallert,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen twenty two through two thousand and sixteen,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>American actor with a very long career stretching from nineteen

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>forty seven through twenty fourteen. That's eight decades and three

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty eight TV and film credits on IMDb.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>One time president of the Screen Actors Guild, he also

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<v Speaker 1>played a doct in Joe Dante's Innerspace from nineteen eighty seven,

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>which is fun because it's another miniaturization film. Yeah, and

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Dante used him a few different times, like

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he shows up in Gremlins, for example. But other film

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>credits include Singing in the Rain and The Heat of

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the Night, Written on the Wind, which we talked about already, them,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the Forbin Project, Mighty Joe Young, the Man from Planet X,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>The Monolith Monsters, Gog and tobor The Great Oh which

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we covered just just a few months ago. Yeah. Yeah,

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just looking at this relationship and thinking, Joe Dante,

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, is very fond of making movies that call

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>back to movies he saw when he was a kid.

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>So I would be surprised if he made a Shrink

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>movie that has this guy in it who is in

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>another famous Shrink movie from a couple of decades earlier.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>That that can't be an accident. Oh no, there are

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>no accidents with casting like that from from Dante. All right. Finally,

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the music, this is one of

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>those films where there's in the credits, there's no like

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<v Speaker 1>I did you know? Score composed by the credit the

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>main trumpet player, but they are like four uncredited names

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>on the studio soundtrack when you look it up in

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the databases. Suffice to say that it's a very traditional

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and mel dramatic score for the most part, not the

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that I would ever listen to an isolation,

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>but it works really well in this film, providing I think,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a mostly serious musical framework for the visuals. Yeah. I

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>thought there were parts here were the musical score was

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>more distinctive than most movies of this time. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and so certainly towards the end. Yeah, because like I

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>recall thinking with the opening credits that I was like,

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>what does this music remind me of? And obviously it

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't this, but I realized it reminded me of Gershwin,

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Like it kind of sounds like the It had this

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>blooming trumpet motif that reminded me of Rhapsody in Blue. Oh. Interesting.

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>The trumpet soloist who is credited in the credits was

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Anthony born nineteen twenty two, and as of this recording,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the last surviving member of the Glenn Miller Orchestra. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>well you're ready to discuss the plot. Oh, let's get

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>into it. So in the opening credits, while this music plays,

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>we see a blank white silhouette of a man on

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a black background. Again, there's this horn heavy music playing,

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>And I really like the sort of abstract imagery of

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the credits because we start by just zooming toward a jagged,

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>irregular white shape in the distance. It's like a black

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>background in a white shape, and you're thinking, what is it?

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Is this some kind of like cloud maybe, or is

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it a large crystal? And eventually you realize that it

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>is sunlight. You are zooming through a cave to the

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>mouth of the cave, out of the dark cave into

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the daylight, and so that growing white object in the

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>distance was the mouth of the cave and the light outside.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>And so when we come out we see the ocean.

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>There are waves breaking, birds, a boat rocking in the tide,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and there begins narration. And I'm gonna be a little

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>harsh here because overall I think this is a fantastic movie.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it has a really just flat on its

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<v Speaker 1>face opener, not good, not good opening lines. It starts

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>with the narration saying, the strange, almost unbelievable story of

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Robert Scott Carey began on a very ordinary summer day.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this story better than anyone because I am

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Scott Carey. Why would you phrase it that way?

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's like some kind of reveal, But you're only

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>two sentences in. You're not gonna be blowing anybody's mind

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>with a twist at this point, Like would people be saying, oh,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>whoa the narrator who just now started talking is also

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy he's talking about. Yeah, I mean I Hermann

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Melvil does it right off the bat, right, Yeah, but

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean. Yeah, this kind of struck

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>me as being maybe something I haven't read the original novel,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>but maybe this is kind of tightly bound to the

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>original novel. Yeah, maybe it's better on the page, that

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. So yeah, it's it's it's a great script,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>but this is not a good opener that you could

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>have come up with something better anyway. So in the beginning,

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>we see a man, presumably Robert Scott Carey from the narration,

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and a woman we find out this is his wife, Louise,

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and they're lounging side by side in the sun on

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the bow of boat. And the situation is they revealed

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>they've been married for six years. They are on vacation.

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>The boat belongs to Robert Scott Carey's brother. Robert Scott

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>carry needs to get beer in him and he yearns

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for Louise to retrieve the beer on his behalf, and

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Louise desireth not to bring him the beer and tells

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>him he should fetch his own beer. This was a

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>very simple scene, but I thought it was very good,

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>very well acted. Yeah, it comes off playful, but it

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>also in some ways lays the groundwork for the developments

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in their relationship to come, the problems that will emerge,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, And one other thing,

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>And this took me a little bit to break down

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>about this scene. But Okay, these two characters are wearing

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>bathing suits, you know, nineteen fifties bathing suits that are distinct.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>They would look a little fashioned today, but they're not

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that different from what a couple might wear on a

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>boat today. And I, for some reason I thought this

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>may this made them feel a little more relatable in

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>this scene to modern audiences. Because unlike many other scenes

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in the in the movie, they're not wearing those nineteen

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>fifties domestic uniforms. You know, the sort of standard dress

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of a you know, a merried, middle class couple in

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties America that you see in every other film. Right,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>leave it to Beaver wearing a coat and tie while

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the couch at home. Yeah, and they're again,

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>they're also being very human and relatable in the scene.

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>And they're not because there are plenty of films from

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this time period in which you have people in bathing suits.

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's not just the bathing suit, but so many

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of those sequences are people being kept in bathing suits.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And these characters are being real. Yeah, they're being playful,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and the relationship is sweet, so like that. They playfully

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>argue about this, But eventually Louise is like, Okay, I'll

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>get him a beer. I think he promises her something

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna make dinner. He's gonna make dinner. Yeah,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>So she goes down into the cabin to get him

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a beer, and as soon as she disappears down below,

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Robert Scott Kerry here witnesses a bizarre site there is

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>an ominous white cloud of vapor billowing rapidly in his

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>direction over the surface of the water. And this is

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>totally unexplained. It's not like one of those scenes in

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a movie where you know, you've heard already a radio

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>announcement in the background that says like a cloud of

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>vapor escaped from a chemical transport is blah blah blah.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>You have just have no idea what this is. Yeah,

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and I love how how unexplained it is, because it

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>could it almost takes on the feeling of vision or

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>se though of course, the context of the film, we

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>are to assume this is something that actually does happen

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to him. Yeah, but I like how it the way

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that it is like on the horizon, the way the

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>film that the scene is shot too, with we're viewing

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>him back turned to the camera, the cloud in the

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>distance moving ever closer. It ends up taking on a

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of temporal quality to it, you know, like the

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.720
<v Speaker 1>thing that is approaching is not only like an actual

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>physical sci fi threat in the scene, but it also

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>represents like the uncertainty of the future, the known and

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>unknown challenges of the future. It's coming on faster than

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he can react. And he can't see through it to

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>what's on the other side. Yeah, so before he really

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>has time to understand what's happening, the cloud of vapor

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>overtakes the boat and it envelops him and then it

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>just blows on by, and so it's it's gone before

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Louise even emerges from down below, but it leaves Scott

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>here covered in what looks like glitter. This is probably

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a good time to mention for anyone who's purely listening

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>to this and hasn't seen this is a black and

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>white film, so the glitter, the glitter. You can still

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>laugh at it by all means, but it is at

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>least in black and white and not like sparkling purple

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>or anything. So we cut from here to six months later,

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's a pleasant domestic scene. Louise is at their

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>home calling out to a cat to give him some milk.

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time we meet Orangey or Butch

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in the movie. And as soon as I saw this,

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yeah, everybody here is going to

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>recognize a Chekhov's cat in a shrink movie when they

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>see it. Yeah, And I think the cat prominently featured

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in promotional material, so I think a lot of the

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>original audience saw this coming as well, and actually I

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>think the movie in a smart way plays into that

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>because instead of trying to keep it secret, like, oh,

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's going to be a big twist that,

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like the cat attacks him, it plays up the fact

0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that the cat is going to be a threat, I

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>think by in a very subtle way a few times

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>after Scott's starts shrinking, having these little moments where like,

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the cat does something cute, but it's photographed in a

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>way that could be interpreted as a little bit unnerving. Yeah. Anyway,

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>so we go into the house and it's, you know,

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen looks like the I Love Lucy kitchen, the

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>old school refrigerator with round edges. It's that kind of

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>mid century home. Scott's getting dressed and he's running into

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a problem. It seems like none of his clothes fit anymore.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>They're all too big, and he even thinks Louise might

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>have picked up the wrong bag at the dry cleaners.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And he's eating less than he used to. He has

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 1>one egg for breakfast instead of two. So he goes

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to the doctor to get this checked out, and the

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>doctor confirms that he is not only ten pounds lighter

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>than he used to be. He measures Scott's height and

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Scott's like, that doesn't make sense. That's several inches shorter

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 1>than I used to be. How's that supposed to happen?

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>But this scene was good because the doctor has very

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.439
<v Speaker 1>reasonable things to say, so he attribute it's the weight

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>loss distress, and then he doubts that Scott is actually

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>getting shorter. He says, you know, like he brings real knowledge.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>That makes a lot of sense. He argues that, well,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe your previous height measurements, you know, you only have

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of sources for that. That was a couple

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>of physicals over the last many years. Those might have

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>been early in the morning when we're actually a bit

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>taller than we are later in the day, which is

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>true due to compression of the spine from being upright

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>throughout the day, generally you lose, you know, some small

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>but real amount of height and h and maybe there

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>was just errors on top of that, so that seems possible.

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And back home, Scott seems preoccupied after this doctor visit.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Louise asks him, Hey, what did Charlie, that's referring to

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>his brother, What did Charlie, think about your idea for

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a newspaper ad. So Scott, we learn is an ad man.

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>What is that? It's not a wheel, it's a carousel

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of shrinking down to the size of an atom. I

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. We'll keep that in mind as we go on.

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>But they start putting several lines of evidence together. So

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's undeniable that he's getting smaller every day because Louise

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is used to have to like stand up on her

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>toes to kiss him, and now she doesn't. And this

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of foreshadows the way the premise of the movie

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>comes as an injury to his sense of manhood. Yeah,

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and also that it's he's he's thinking he's shorter, just

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in a large part because things are changing, his relationship

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to things are changing. So one of the great things

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>about this the way the picture treats this shrinking, which

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>again is very much as sci fi miniaturization gimmick. But

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>they're always playing at least a little bit with the

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>metaphorical nature of this, like what does it mean that

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you are changing in relation to the rest of the world,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And how many things in the modern life could that

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>be compared to? Yeah, the story is rich with metaphors

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in that way. So he eventually he goes back to

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the doctor and it turns out there's no mistaking it.

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>They do X rays to confirm that Scott is definitely

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>actually shrinking, and the doctor sends him off to a

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>special medical research institute in California to discover the cause

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of his condition and hopefully to cure it. They do

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>a brazilion, different kinds of tests. Sharn in what I

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>thought was a very effective montage. It almost reminded me

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of the freaky, alienating montage of medical tests and the Exorcist. Yeah. Yeah,

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 1>they're doing a number of things. He's describing some of

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>them in the narration, but yeah, they were seeing they're

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>looking all inside him, They're they're looking at all these

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>test results, just trying, mostly in vain, to understand like

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>what's happening and what can we do to treat it.

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Eventually they come up with a diagnosis. They figure out

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. They say, quote, it's a rearrangement of

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the molecular structure of the cells in your body. And

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you know that's a funny phrase when you pull it

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>out of context here, But I'm going to give this

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>movie a lot of credit. It does a very good

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>job of selling its site. Heck babble, yeah, yeah. In

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the scene, you you believe it. In more to the point,

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you can tell that our main character believes and like

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's finding comfort in the fact that Okay, they

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>figured it out. Now we can move on to the

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>next thing. The modern world can fix this. Yeah, And

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they even put together, like what was probably the cause?

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>They they think that it was sort of a two

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 1>stage chain of causes. One was that he was recently

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 1>exposed to an insecticide, which he remembers a case of

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like being around past control people spraying. But then before

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that they were like, have you ever been exposed to

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>any radioactivity? Because that, in combination with the insecticide did something.

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>And then he remembers finally the boat, the mist, the mist,

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and they determine he might just keep shrinking. They don't

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>know what to do about it yet, and so there's

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a discussion between Scott and Louise where he becomes quickly

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.919
<v Speaker 1>quite fatalistic about it. You know, this may kill him

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>or make him longer than man she married, in which

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>case he says, well, there will be limitations on her

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>obligations to him. And she poo poos this. She tells

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:11.959
<v Speaker 1>him she still loves him, but right in the middle

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of the scene, his wedding ring falls off of his

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>finger onto the floor of the car. Yeah, that may

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>be all over the time, but I think that's one

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of the really fun things about these pictures that there's

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:25.280
<v Speaker 1>still moments like that that are a little overtly dramatic

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>and you can you can laugh at but your laughter

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't doesn't really take you out, you know. Well, there's

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>another one that comes up, so we more time passes,

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and there's a scene where we meet Scott's brother, Charlie,

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and you see Charlie and Louise in like a living

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>room together and Charlie's just kind of like talking into

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a chair that appears to be empty, and he's saying,

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, his business has turned. Things have gone bad

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>at the plant. His income has gone so he's running

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>out of ways to help support uh, Louise and Scott.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.720
<v Speaker 1>But he does know of another way to bring in money,

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.760
<v Speaker 1>which is that reporters are offering to pay for the story.

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>They've heard the rumors about the rumors of the incredible

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Shrinking Man. So Charlie's like, Hey, what if we just

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>take the money and we you know, let you become

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>an object of media fixation. And then there's a reveal.

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a reverse shot and we see that Charlie has

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>been speaking into this chair the whole time, and we

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>finally see Scott in the chair. But now he is

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>shrunken to the size where like he doesn't you know,

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>his head doesn't reach above the cushion and his feet

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 1>don't dangle below the cushions. It seems like he's about

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>three feet tall here. Yeah, it's this is a This

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>is I guess, our first look at some of these

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>fantastic sets they put together to utilize with others, other

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>effects methods in order to make it look like he's smaller,

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, in this case, it's like a giant chair.

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 1>But but this reveal is also quite funny. It's something

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>about the really dramatic music that hits when we see

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>him there. Yeah, I mean, I don't know to what

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>extent it was to be funny, but like I'm saying,

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you can you can laugh at moments like that in

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the film and it doesn't really detach you from the

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>serious nature of the film as well. I agree, I

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was meant to be funny at all,

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>but and it is kind of funny. But I think

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>that's just a I don't know, time and film convention thing,

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and the movie still works. Yeah. Now there was another

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>thing I was wondering about though, and this is sort

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>of getting into the unspoken themes of this movie. A

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of what's interesting about it is unspoken but implied.

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>The thing is that, you know, Scott doesn't have a

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>job anymore, so he's he's having to get support from

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>his brother and ultimately support from these you know, these

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>media vultures who who want to make a buck off

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>his story. But I was thinking, why doesn't Scott have

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a job anymore? They say he works in advertising, and obviously,

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>like his shrinking would not interfere with his ability to

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>come up with ideas for advertisements, Like he could still

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>pitch ideas for you know, magazine spreads about how cigarettes

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>are good for you. But I guess maybe it's implying

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that he lost his job because it's something about like

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like embarrassment or fear of how he'd be perceived or

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the way people would treat him. Just the idea that

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>like he can't go out to the workplace and be

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>seen like this. Yeah, I think, I think to a

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>large extent, that's that's part of it, right, Like this

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>fear of being ostracized for now being different, for not

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>fitting in, for you know, for not fitting the sort

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of template for uh, for what it meant to be

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a man anymore. In that time, because he's he's physically reduced,

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>he's literally reduced. On the other hand, I don't know,

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like you, I don't know exactly what his job

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>consisted of, but I instantly come back to Madmen, you know,

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and all the various schmoozing and socializing that our various characters,

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>professional characters in that show have to do, and he

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.400
<v Speaker 1>just like he can't do it anymore. How's he going

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 1>to go and drink and eat oysters with with with

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>other businessmen at lunch if he's now three k tall? Yeah, So,

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>faced with no other options, Scott decides, Okay, I will

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>become a media sensation, and that's what they do. They

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>apparently get some money out of this, but it leads

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to people like reporters and just gawkers gathering outside the

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 1>house hoping to get a glimpse of him and the

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>special effects really start to be revealed here, Like Scott

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 1>is shown in an extremely convincing set of the home

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 1>living room where the couch cushions are taller than him

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.479
<v Speaker 1>and the cat comes up to his waist and so forth,

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and it looks great. Yeah, he's not so small that

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the cat will attack him yet, which I don't know

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>depending on your experience with your cat at home, listeners,

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>he may have a different take on all this. I

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>know that I'm a full sized human being and my

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>cat attacks my feet on an almost daily daily level.

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like daily assaults, daily, unhunted for sport by this

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>creature that I feed and care for. So I don't

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 1>think I would have to get much smaller to experience

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>worse treatment by my own cat. Well, we'll have to

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>compare the movie's depiction of cat feline viciousness to the

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>reality that you may have experienced in a little bit here, okay,

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But also in the scene we get the first glimpse

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of Scott's real anguish about what's going on. He's, you know,

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously somebody who was going through a medical situation like

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>this would be afraid. But Scott is also an important

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>aspect of how this works. Is that he's humiliated. He

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 1>feels humiliated by how people see him. Of course, he's

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>afraid of what he'll become, and he turns this into anger,

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like he lashes out in anger at Louise for no

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:52.720
<v Speaker 1>good reason that he does feel remorse about this. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and again this is some of the stuff that kind

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of works nicely with what we see of their healthier

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>relationship earlier on. You know, there's this kind of you know,

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>subtle playful teasing there. But but but at this point, like

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>they're they're you know, their relationship is a little more

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>out of more than a little bit out of whack

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>due to his condition, the way he's handling his condition,

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and the way he's taking it out on her. We

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 1>also learn here that he's writing a book about his experience,

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and this seems to be sort of where the narration,

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the voiceover narration is coming in, Like the uh, it's

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of based on the thoughts he's writing in his memoir,

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, and this is where we got it.

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>We get you know, all of this um reflective, analytical

0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>content where he's you know, thinking about his anger, he's

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the way he's processing everything and beginning to

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.439
<v Speaker 1>tease it apart to the best of visibility. Yeah, and

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>through this narration we learned that Scott just wants he

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to hide, He wants to get away to somewhere

0:50:50.960 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>where nobody can find him, nobody can know about him. Now,

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the doctors eventually do come up with something. They come

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>up with a treatment that they think will have about

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>a fifty percent chance of curing him, and they do

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the injection and they run some tests and it seems

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like it works. It does stop the shrinking at least

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>for now, though they don't have any guarantee that he

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 1>will recover to his original size, but it seems for

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a while like he's not going to get any smaller

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.880
<v Speaker 1>than he was, which they say is stalled at thirty

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.839
<v Speaker 1>six inches fifty two pounds. And again here there are

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 1>scenes that are what I was talking about earlier with

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the cat scenes where the camera it seems to me,

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of meaningfully captures the cat. There's no direct indication

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.720
<v Speaker 1>yet that the cat will be any kind of threat,

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>but there are these little cuddles and meows that I

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>are perfectly balanced between cute and kind of ominous. Now, ultimately,

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in his search for relief from his hopelessness and his emasculation.

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Scott leaves the house one night. He just like leaves.

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>He goes out walking, and of course people stare at

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>him as he walks by in the sidewalk, but he

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>makes his way to a carnival in town where there

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 1>is a there's a barker advertising the Freak Show, which

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>has all the usual performers, and there is like so

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the barker is announcing a dwarf actress named Tiny Tina.

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And watching all of this, it's it's very interesting, like

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Scott has. It's much of it is unspoken, but you

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>can tell Scott is having this mix of I think

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>self pity and remorse. So he has the self pity

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of realizing that people now would look at him with

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the same dehumanizing lens through which they see the people

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Freak Show. But I think it's also implied

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:45.839
<v Speaker 1>that he realizes, you know, before the radioactive cloud, he

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>would have been just like those people in the audience

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>looking on the performers, people like Tiny Tina as in

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>human curiosities. Yeah, yeah, this whole sequence here and what

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>is about to come. I remember thinking this is exactly

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the sort of sequence that might feel like just filler

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>in another film about somebody going through some sort of

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.879
<v Speaker 1>a change. In fact, I think I think it has

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:15.919
<v Speaker 1>essentially been such filler in films, but perhaps inspired by

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>this sequence, but it really works here. It feels like

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>it is you know, basically, we're getting to kind of

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like the soul of the picture. And speaking of this

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 1>is where we're about to meet the character Clarice. So

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 1>he goes into a nearby cafe across the street from

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the carnival, and he orders a coffee and sits by himself,

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.959
<v Speaker 1>and he is joined at his table by a woman

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 1>named Clarice, who is also a dwarf performer, and they

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>have an interesting conversation. She's very very kind and very wise,

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 1>and they talk about what's going on. She realizes who

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:50.479
<v Speaker 1>he is because his name has been in the news,

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>so she understands his situation, and he starts sharing his

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:58.359
<v Speaker 1>fears and his angst about living the way he is,

0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and Clarice advises him to, you know, maybe just start

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 1>by to try to find a way forward just by

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the future. And there's a part where Scott says,

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>what future in a world of giants, and Clarice says

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I've lived with them all my life, and I thought

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 1>this was also a very interesting scene, like seeing people

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of a typical size as as giants, and like the

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>turning of the tables this way was interesting because like

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the perspective is the perspective that the only thing potentially

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 1>bothersome about her size would come from the behavior of

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the giants, and she just doesn't really concern herself with

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 1>them and how they behave or what they think. Yeah,

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>like they're they're outsized as opposed to just me being downsized.

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And she tells him, you know, the world can still

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 1>be a wonderful place. The sky is as blue as

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>it is for the giants, the friends are as warm. Yeah.

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And so this meeting with Clarice and her wisdom and

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>her kindness that kind of revives Scott, and he he

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 1>comes out of his out of his depression. He throws

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:07.879
<v Speaker 1>himself back into writing. He becomes deeply absorbed in his memoir. Uh.

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And that lasts for a while until we get to

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a terrible realization, which is he realizes, upon a meeting

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>with Clarice that he is actually shrinking once again, that

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the treatment he's been given by the doctors is no longer,

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>stalling the progression of his condition. Yeah, this is interesting because, yeah,

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>because in that first sequence, it is noticeable that he's

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit taller than herd and and so on

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>one level, you're you kind of look at that and

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you think, well, how much of this is kind of

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.880
<v Speaker 1>like his his um the remnants of that that masco

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and ego that like he's able to like build some

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.839
<v Speaker 1>of it up because it's kind of like on some level, Oh,

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.799
<v Speaker 1>finally a woman that I'm I'm taller than so I

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>can I can fall into some of that that older

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 1>thinking about mascow and roles in society, and now that's gone.

0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Now he's clearly shorter. But then also you can you

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>can take it at face value, you can you can

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:01.200
<v Speaker 1>take it in any additional direction of character, depth or

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:05.319
<v Speaker 1>metaphor as well. Yeah. Now, once again, a bunch of

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>time passes, and so the next time we meet Scott,

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 1>he's living in a dollhouse on the floor in the

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in the home. Oh yeah, this is a great sequence

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>because they're in separate parts of the house. And at

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>first you don't know that he's gotten that small, yes, yeah, yeah,

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:23.160
<v Speaker 1>so you don't quite realize, but then they come to

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>speak to one another, and Louise just speaking in a

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 1>normal voice, like her voice hurts his ears. It's too loud,

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's yelling, And at first I didn't realize. I says,

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.359
<v Speaker 1>he's yelling because he's so small he has to yell

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>everything in order for her to hear him. But it

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.400
<v Speaker 1>also reads the other way too, Yes, and he's so

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he reflects upon himself, Like he said, he essentially explains

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>that the smaller he got, the more domineering and controlling

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and angry he became at Louise. You know, he felt

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>he was no longer really himself. And I thought this

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was really interesting about is showing this kind of you know,

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to to generalize this weird sci fi scenario into reality

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that like fear and a sense of vulnerability creates anger

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and resentment and a desire to control other people. Yeah. Absolutely,

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's because like he's so dependent on Louise now,

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he's like he's really controlling of her movements and stuff,

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Like she's you know, wanting to go out to the

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 1>store real quickly and he's like, tell me where you're going,

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, when will you be back and that sort

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Yeah, Yeah, and so she goes to the store,

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 1>but something happens. Yeah, the cat comes in. I guess

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the cat has been he's they realize he's too small,

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and the cat lives outside now or is stuck away

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 1>in a room. I don't know how they haven't worked out,

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 1>but he's kept at a safe distance from the cat.

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>But the cat has snuck back into the house and

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>has been left alone in the house while she is

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:58.960
<v Speaker 1>at the store. Yeah, and so here's the famous scene

0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that we alluded to earlier, the cat attacks scene. I

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>think within the context to the rest of the story,

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the scene is really frightening. The effects are very good,

0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>and the horror plays directly on the themes because the

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>attack is not coming from something that was ever originally

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 1>threatening to Scott. The attack is from something that was

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>previously harmless but has become threatening because the relationship between

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>them has changed. And it kind of reminds me of

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the other scene where they talk about now seeing other

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>people as giants. But of course, at least like the

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>giants can be spoken to and reasoned with, like the

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:39.920
<v Speaker 1>cat cannot be spoken to a reasoned with. It just

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>no longer even recognizes Scott as human. He's just a small,

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 1>prey animal like any other. Yeah, like the relationship has

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 1>shifted that far that. Yeah, it's just you're not who

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 1>or what you were before. Now you are merely prey.

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:54.479
<v Speaker 1>And this, of course, this is exactly how it would

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>go down with a cat. I think we all realize this,

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>even those of us who own cats and love cats.

0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>If you were this small, your cat would destroy you.

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 1>There's just no way around it. It's like, that's what

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 1>your cat is programmed to do. That's what your cat

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 1>has evolved to do. And you have if you are

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate enough to magically shrink this small well, you have

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 1>fallen in line with its central hunting programming. In this

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>scene we get really the first hint of something that

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 1>will take up most of the rest of the movie,

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting problem solving relationships between Scott and his environment.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 1>So when the cat is attacking him, he really has

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>no method of self defense, but he comes up with

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 1>something clever. He pulls down on the cord of a

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 1>lamp that's on a table above and manages to get

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it to tip over off the side table and fall down,

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.680
<v Speaker 1>which frightens the cat away. Yeah, and he basically just

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 1>runs for it. Now, the sequence is frightening. I love

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the image where the cat is creeping up on the

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 1>dollhouse originally and then reaches its path through and does

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the bat bat thing with the claw. Um. Now, I

1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:04.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to criticize Orange's performance and the way that

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Orangey chose to perform this role, and you know, the

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 1>way that Jack Arnold directed it and the way Matheson

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.560
<v Speaker 1>wrote it. But I did find that the cat is

1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is hissing and snarling too much. I think any of

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:19.919
<v Speaker 1>us that have been around cats hunting or pretending to hunt,

1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a very It's mostly a silent fair. I mean

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you encounter that that weird chirping they do it

1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:28.120
<v Speaker 1>birds outside the window, that sort of thing. But when

1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the hunt is on, there's a silence to the cat.

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:33.000
<v Speaker 1>You're going to have more of that. There's gonna be

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that kind of butt wiggling thing they do where they're

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.400
<v Speaker 1>getting ready to spring, and we don't see any of

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that from this performance by Orangey. Uh. It's still doesn't

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>take away from the sequences at all. But I was

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking about Azow's watching it, like, okay, it really would

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:52.040
<v Speaker 1>go like this, And also he takes a couple of

1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:55.080
<v Speaker 1>swipes from from Butch the cat in the sequence like

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Butch like bloodies him up a good bit. In reality,

1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're that's well, I don't think you

1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:03.439
<v Speaker 1>would have survived this encounter at all. Yeah, No matter

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:06.320
<v Speaker 1>how clever you were, there's just no denying just how

1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>brutal a cat that size relative of your own body

1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:13.760
<v Speaker 1>would be. You would just be torn apart. You might

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:16.200
<v Speaker 1>be played with a little bit, but you would be doomed.

1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. Yeah, the predator prey relationship I think

1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play out. Something's weird here, though. You could say

1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:28.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe the cat's normal hunting instincts are a little bit

1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 1>disrupted because he is somewhat different than I don't know.

1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know something's going on. Well, I can

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>think of one memory I have of a cat just

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.120
<v Speaker 1>hissing at something much smaller than it, and it was

1:01:42.200 --> 1:01:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a cat. It was a cat hissing at a huge

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:49.400
<v Speaker 1>black spider. M okay, all right, well, maybe maybe it

1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:52.800
<v Speaker 1>does work. I mean cats cats are weird. So I

1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:55.160
<v Speaker 1>mean the cat did not did not hunt the spider.

1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It was clearly threatened by it. I guess that's also

1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:00.800
<v Speaker 1>going to connect to something in the movie in a

1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:05.000
<v Speaker 1>minute here. So anyway, Scott escapes to the basement. He

1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:09.160
<v Speaker 1>goes down through the basement door and ends up falling

1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a long way into a laundry hamper. And then Louise

1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:15.880
<v Speaker 1>gets home. She finds Butch the cat with like a

1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:20.640
<v Speaker 1>torn piece of Scott's clothing that has blood on it

1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and licking blood from his paws, and so she assumes

1:02:24.360 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that Butch the cat has eaten her husband. Yeah, there's

1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>only one way to interpret the evidence. So now Scott

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<v Speaker 1>is trapped in the basement and Louise doesn't know he's there.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks he's dead, and he has to try to

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<v Speaker 1>find his way out of the laundry hamper. He has

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate the landscape of giant objects. He has to

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<v Speaker 1>try to find a way to contact Louise and make

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<v Speaker 1>her realize he's still alive, but he can't make it

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<v Speaker 1>up the stairs and she can't hear him call out um.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just sort of like stuck here trying to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this the landscape of the basement of the

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<v Speaker 1>house and once again to hear The effects and the

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<v Speaker 1>sets are marvelous. They're excellent at making you feel the

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<v Speaker 1>change in scale as genuine horror and a horror that

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<v Speaker 1>has great, various similitude. I have this sense like this

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<v Speaker 1>is what it would be like to be several inches

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<v Speaker 1>to all trapped in the basement of mid century American house. Yeah. Yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>the prop work, the sets are just amazing in this,

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole sequence, and also to black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>The black and white. The film's you know, nicely shot throughout,

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<v Speaker 1>but these basement sequences especially, they end up taking on

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<v Speaker 1>this just like rich uh. You know, the blacks are

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<v Speaker 1>just so much darker and deeper in these sequences. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just excellent. It's almost it's almost like German expressionism

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah. In the narration, he says, the sellers

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<v Speaker 1>stretched before me like some vast primeval plane, empty of life,

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<v Speaker 1>littered with the relics of a vanished race, no desert island,

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<v Speaker 1>castaway ever faced so bleak a prospect. But he's in

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<v Speaker 1>his house. Yeah yeah, but it's like he's and this

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<v Speaker 1>works in so many levels. You know, he's fallen into

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<v Speaker 1>the underworld. He's fallen into the place you put things

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<v Speaker 1>that have forgotten about, where where things that you forget

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<v Speaker 1>about when they're working are found like the hot water

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<v Speaker 1>heater and so forth. I also found it inner as

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<v Speaker 1>I read that Matheson wrote the novel in large part

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<v Speaker 1>in a seller in a basement and would comment that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like he as he was writing it, he

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<v Speaker 1>would just look up and look around him to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of take in the scene as he was writing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he thought that the movie matched it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's brilliant simplicity to a lot of what follows.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for most of the rest of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>is watching our hero problem solving with ordinary objects at

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<v Speaker 1>an alien scale. So he's hungry and he has to

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<v Speaker 1>search for food, and there he looks across and he

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<v Speaker 1>sees something. He realizes it is a mousetrap, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does have cheese on it, but it's a mouse trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, And you know exactly what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna try and rob that mouse trap, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>problem solving at the mousetrap, but he's also really hungry

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<v Speaker 1>and desperate, and it's the same sort of gimmick like

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably played out more or less than so

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<v Speaker 1>many cartoons over the days. Like I felt like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a basic Tom and Jerry kind of a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really is scary to watch, Like I actually

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<v Speaker 1>cried out a few times as he's like fumbling with

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<v Speaker 1>the cheese and nearly making the trap go off. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. So eventually Scott realizes that there is some

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<v Speaker 1>cake that Louise left on a plate on a shelf

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<v Speaker 1>and if he could just get to that, he could

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<v Speaker 1>eat that. But it's way way high up, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a mountain climb basically to get to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we see all kinds of things happen. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to spoil every little detail, but there are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's discovery of a sewing kit and a pincushion and

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<v Speaker 1>some pins that can be manipulated to form weapons, and

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of grappling hook. There is there is a

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<v Speaker 1>sequence where you has to cross a gap in a

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<v Speaker 1>wooden crate, jumping from from one thing to another. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did want to do one okay, brief monster

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<v Speaker 1>science digression that will be familiar to people who have

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<v Speaker 1>been listening to Weirdhouse Cinema for a while because I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the same source in our episode on robot jocks.

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<v Speaker 1>But pedantic science note, which, by the way, should not

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<v Speaker 1>take away from your enjoyment of this part of the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you know, like you shouldn't get hung up

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<v Speaker 1>on physical implausibility if it works in the story. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reality is if you were only a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of inches tall, falling a great distance would be

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<v Speaker 1>far less of a concern to you, way less of

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<v Speaker 1>a threatening prospect than it is to people with bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of our absolute size. And this is something that is

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<v Speaker 1>discussed in the magnificent JBS Haldane essay from nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six called on Being the Right Size, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the essay that explains how essentially there are different regimes

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<v Speaker 1>of physical forces that present threats and problems to an

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<v Speaker 1>organism depending on what its absolute size is. So for

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<v Speaker 1>tiny animals, there actually is not that much of a

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<v Speaker 1>threat due to gravity. Like you know, falling a great

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<v Speaker 1>distance is not going to harm a very small animal

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<v Speaker 1>very much. But there is a much greater threat to

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<v Speaker 1>small animals from the surface tension of water, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a theme that I would like to see explored to

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<v Speaker 1>more horrific ends and shrink movies. I seem to call

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a long time since I watched Tony I

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<v Speaker 1>shrunk the kids. But I think there's a scene in

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<v Speaker 1>that where there are water droplet's following falling from the

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<v Speaker 1>from the sky, maybe like a sprinkler system, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>following like like bombs. Yeah, So to a certain extent

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<v Speaker 1>that it gets into this topic well to explain, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Haldane gives this you know, whole thing. The famous

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<v Speaker 1>line is he's talking about animals falling down a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>yard mine shaft. He says, you know, a tiny mouse

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<v Speaker 1>drops down a thousand yard mine shaft, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>get a shock when it's the bottom, but if the

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<v Speaker 1>if the bottom is relatively soft, it will probably be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he says, a rat is killed, a man

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<v Speaker 1>is broken, a horse splashes. For the resistance presented to

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<v Speaker 1>movement by the air is proportional to the surface of

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<v Speaker 1>the moving object. Divide in animal's length, breadth, and height

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<v Speaker 1>each by ten. Its weight is reduced to a thousandth

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<v Speaker 1>but its surface only a hundredth. So the resistance to

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<v Speaker 1>falling in the case of a small animal is relatively

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<v Speaker 1>ten times greater than the driving force. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>small falling is less of a big deal. But he

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<v Speaker 1>goes on. An insect therefore is not afraid of gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>It can fall without danger, and can cling to the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling with remarkably little trouble. It can go in for

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<v Speaker 1>elegant and fantastic forms of support, like that of the

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<v Speaker 1>daddy long legs. But there is a force which is

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<v Speaker 1>as formidable to an insect as gravitation to a mammal.

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<v Speaker 1>This is surface tension. A man coming out of a

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<v Speaker 1>bath carries with him a film of water about one

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth of an inch in thickness. This weighs roughly a pound.

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<v Speaker 1>A wet mouse has to carry about its own weight

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<v Speaker 1>of water. A wet fly has to lift many times

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<v Speaker 1>its own weight, And as everyone knows, a fly, once

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<v Speaker 1>wetted by water or any other liquid, is in a

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<v Speaker 1>very serious position. Indeed, an insect going for a drink

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<v Speaker 1>is in a great danger as a man leaning out

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<v Speaker 1>over a precipice in search of food. If it once

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<v Speaker 1>falls into the grip of the surface tension of the water,

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<v Speaker 1>that is to say, gets wet, it is likely to

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<v Speaker 1>remain so until it drowns. A few insects, such as

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<v Speaker 1>water beetles, contrived to be unwettable, the majority keep well

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<v Speaker 1>away from their drink by means of a long probosis,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this made me think more about it possibly

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<v Speaker 1>more horrifying take on the water heater scene that will

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<v Speaker 1>follow in the movie. Now. I believe this came up

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<v Speaker 1>in our episode on robot Jocks because we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how you know, if you had real hundred foot

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<v Speaker 1>tall robots actually slugging it out, they would really really

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<v Speaker 1>need to worry about gravity. I think basically any fall

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<v Speaker 1>would destroy them. Yeah, and the idea of having a

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<v Speaker 1>bipedal one is just even crazier because it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>it more susceptible falls. So if you're out there thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about making your own shrink movie, I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>the truly horrific take on the surface tension of water.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that is implied by Haldane's essay here that

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<v Speaker 1>any drop of water is almost kind of like the blob.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah. I I only saw the first of these

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<v Speaker 1>ant Man movies that came out, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they ever get into any of that, And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're at least more recentably gotten more down

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<v Speaker 1>to like quantum stuff where you're not even and they

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<v Speaker 1>just turn it into like alien worlds and so forth. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen any of those. The first one was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first one was fun anyway. Sorry, But

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to the plot of the Incredible Shrinking Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So Scott finally makes his way up to the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>He achieves some cake, but it is stale once he

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<v Speaker 1>gets to it, and it's sitting right in the shadow

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<v Speaker 1>of a giant spider web. And there's a part where

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<v Speaker 1>he goes up to sort of event great and looks

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<v Speaker 1>out through it to see a bird out in the yard, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, to him at this point would be like

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<v Speaker 1>a dinosaur, like a giant t rex. And he looks

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<v Speaker 1>out at the world outside and he becomes sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like he starts laughing, but he's also angry, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>in narration my prison almost as far as I could see,

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<v Speaker 1>a gray, friendless area of space and time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>resolved that as men had dominated the world of the Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would dominate my world. So he sets about.

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<v Speaker 1>He sets up a shelter for himself in a matchbox. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has to retreat to it in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a terrifying spider attack Yeah, the spider that lives in

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<v Speaker 1>the web at the top MIxS of the cake is

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<v Speaker 1>clearly played by a tarantula, which of course would not

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<v Speaker 1>be living in that that web, or I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>sure it would be in this basement. Who knows how

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposedly got there. At any rate, it still looks great,

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<v Speaker 1>great use of a tarantula, a live tarantula and this

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<v Speaker 1>uh and of course it fits because it's the director

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<v Speaker 1>of Tarantula. Do you think he used the same tarantula

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<v Speaker 1>guy from whoever provided tarantulas for Tarantula? I don't know, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he did play on some of his

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<v Speaker 1>experience shooting tarantulas because they had certain there are certain

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<v Speaker 1>things they learned about, like you know, what's what variety

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<v Speaker 1>of tarantula you need? You like, you need an animal

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<v Speaker 1>that's big enough and moves appropriately that you can and

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<v Speaker 1>create the special effects around it. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of uh, kind of hokey scenes out there and send

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<v Speaker 1>them out where someone uh fights a quote unquote giant

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<v Speaker 1>animal and force perspective and so forth and split screen.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one's really good. Like this one, they put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of effort into making it look look look great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there are some major struggles. In the final

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of the film, he has to do battle with

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<v Speaker 1>the Spider in order to survive. Before that, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>scene of a great flood that comes when the water

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<v Speaker 1>heater bursts um and and in the scene, Louise and

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie they finally do come down to the cellar, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what he'd been waiting on. He was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when they're here, I can call out to them and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll and they'll get me. But he's too He's too

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<v Speaker 1>small for them to hear or to see. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's really passed out of their lives and he

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<v Speaker 1>has to realize it at this point, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there is a scary scene with the flood. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite do the weird scale surface tension thing, but he

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<v Speaker 1>does almost get washed on a drain, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>horrifying prospect. But after surviving the flood, there's a change

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<v Speaker 1>where Scott seems to gain a new kind of clarity

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<v Speaker 1>and strength. He says, quote, a strange calm possessed me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought more clearly than I ever had before, as

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<v Speaker 1>if my mind were bathed in a brilliant light, I

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<v Speaker 1>recognized that part of my illness was rooted in hunger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remembered the food on the shelf, the cake

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<v Speaker 1>threaded with spider web. I no longer felt hatred for

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<v Speaker 1>the spider. Like myself, it struggled blindly for the means

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<v Speaker 1>to survive. And so there is ultimately a confrontation with

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<v Speaker 1>the spider that involves some clever use of tools, again

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<v Speaker 1>at the alien scale, and then there is in the

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<v Speaker 1>end a kind of soliloquy. He comes to realize that

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<v Speaker 1>he somehow in like in passing beyond the realm where

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<v Speaker 1>humans can even recognize him and help him anymore, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Louise couldn't even hear him calling out.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems that somehow gives him a new sense of

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<v Speaker 1>meaning in that like by being definitely wholly denied any

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<v Speaker 1>prospect of salvation from the world he knew. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>he can now fully commit to existence on whatever new

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<v Speaker 1>terms come to him, if that makes any sense. Now, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>like he has completely passed out of their world now,

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<v Speaker 1>like he is. They thought him dead, they believed him

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<v Speaker 1>to be dead, and now he kind of realizes that

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<v Speaker 1>that that part of his life is over yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he is now it is it's not a different scale,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different world, but with different possibilities. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to read the entire thing in full, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He ends with giving this kind of speech where he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I was continuing to shrink to become what the infinitesimal?

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<v Speaker 1>What was I still a human being? Or was I

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<v Speaker 1>the man of the future? He says, the unbelievably small

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<v Speaker 1>and unbelievably vast eventually meet like the closing of a

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic circle. And so he comes to feel that by

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<v Speaker 1>shrinking down forever and ever and becoming ever smaller, he's

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<v Speaker 1>also somehow becoming infinite. Yeah. I was not expecting such

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<v Speaker 1>a transcendent and kind of psychedelic ending to this picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really almost brought to mind Phase four, which

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<v Speaker 1>has the more overtly psychedelic ending and futuristic far seeing ending.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a little different, but but also feels

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<v Speaker 1>that Grand feels that expansive, which again ties me this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that he has become so small that he has

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<v Speaker 1>become infinite or is becoming infinite. It has this in

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<v Speaker 1>common with Phase four, that both are like an ending

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<v Speaker 1>where the protagonists will survive in a sense, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are becoming so changed that they can no longer describe

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<v Speaker 1>their experience in language. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the extras on the Criterion collection disc they pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>that in the novel, he basically it's a little more

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<v Speaker 1>of a downer and maybe it's something that works better

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<v Speaker 1>on the page where he's basically like he becomes nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>I have become nothing at the end, and they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do something more upbeat for the movie. The studio

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<v Speaker 1>of course submitted an idea. They said, what if it

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<v Speaker 1>gets bigger again and is reunited with his wife and

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<v Speaker 1>of course Jacks conquers all. Yeah. Of course Jack Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, we're not doing that. So apparently this

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<v Speaker 1>ending is like the whole you know, the small meats

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<v Speaker 1>big and the closing of the circle and the infinite,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this was what Jack Arnold brought to it for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, Like this was mostly his idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has interesting references to God and stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that that I mean that that kind of came out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere because there were previously no religious themes at

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<v Speaker 1>all in the movie. But it also I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of works the only real downside, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>to the ending, which overall is great, is again the

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<v Speaker 1>delivery is a little I don't know, a little speeching

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like it could have been the narration

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a little more subtle. But the writing

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<v Speaker 1>is excellent. Yeah, and we do see some visualszeg and

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<v Speaker 1>like the arms of the spiral galaxy and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're talking about the infinite. Yeah, so there are

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<v Speaker 1>some stunning visuals in black and white to back it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, I see what you see what you mean. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>also when in his final when because he has to

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<v Speaker 1>keep changing clothes because he's continually growing smaller in his

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<v Speaker 1>final form, when he's giving this final speech, the clothing

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<v Speaker 1>he's dressed in makes him look like a prophet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like a like John the Baptist from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bible movies or something. Yeah, and he's just

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<v Speaker 1>just going out there into the unknown, into the into

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<v Speaker 1>a wild and ultimately a world beyond humans because he

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<v Speaker 1>is he has shrunk beyond their scale. And it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty tremendous that it ends up on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a great note and you end up just looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on it and being like, wow that that film

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<v Speaker 1>was really a great ride. Yeah, yeah, exactly agree. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Incredible Shrinking Man U two thumbs up both from me,

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<v Speaker 1>both hands thumbs up, the Incredible Shrinking Man. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a great one. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the current plan is that we are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>another incredible shrinking movie for next week. Yeah, one that

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<v Speaker 1>will hopefully be still as is intellectually stimulating. Is this picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, we're planning on doing another shrink movie that is,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I understand, a direct rip off of this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks like it'll be a lot of fun. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna go ahead and close this one out.

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<v Speaker 1>But first of all, reminds you that, yeah, we're primarily

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<v Speaker 1>serious concerns to just talk about a weird film here

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<v Speaker 1>on Weird House Cinema. If you want to see what

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<v Speaker 1>other films we've covered on Weird House Cinema. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a few different ways to do it. You can just

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<v Speaker 1>look back through the podcast feed and do it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but also if you go to a letterbox dot com

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<v Speaker 1>that's l E T T R B O x D.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a user profile on there, it's called weird

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<v Speaker 1>House and we have a list there of all the

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<v Speaker 1>movies we've covered in order, and I also have some

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<v Speaker 1>links to where you can listen to them on each

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<v Speaker 1>individual listing. It's also a great way to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>visualize what we've done to break it up by decades

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<v Speaker 1>or genre however you want to want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the website, of course, is also a lot of fun.

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