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Speaker 1: Commander's Family.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Next Man Up Podcast, and as we

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Speaker 2: gear up for Darryl Green's Jersey retirement, we have some

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Speaker 2: special guests for you. We have Jeremy Chen pull up

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Speaker 2: and explain to us if he's still pissed all and

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Speaker 2: then we have a legend joined the show, a legend

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Speaker 2: that knows a lot about the impact Daryl Green has

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Speaker 2: made on this franchise and the NFL. We have the

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Speaker 2: Mouth of the South, Fred Smooth, pull up and talk

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Speaker 2: about all the things he's learned during his time playing

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Speaker 2: with Daryl Green. All that and more starts right now

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Speaker 2: on Next Man.

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Speaker 3: Up Twice Commander's Family.

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Speaker 2: For our Next Man Up, we had to bring in

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Speaker 2: somebody that's very familiar with our next opponent, our Next

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Speaker 2: Man Up.

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Speaker 1: It's Jeremy Shit Brother. How you doing, man?

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Speaker 4: Doing great?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Man, It's good to see you because like last time

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Speaker 2: we spoke where you had just signed, so it's the

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Speaker 2: last time we sat down.

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Speaker 1: And how things been since then?

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Speaker 4: Great things have been great, man, I mean better than

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Speaker 4: what I got to ask for it.

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Speaker 1: Sir man.

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Speaker 2: Last time we spoke, we had like a little mini

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Speaker 2: viral moment. I asked you about yourself and you started

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Speaker 2: talking that I don't know what you were like, I'm

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Speaker 2: pissed off. You just got real quiet, and I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been at a loss for words,

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Speaker 2: especially in the interview you got me on that one.

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Speaker 1: So now that we're here full circle, are you still

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Speaker 1: pissed off? I am why?

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Speaker 4: Because it's like I said before, there's a lot that

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Speaker 4: needs to be show on that football field, and you know,

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Speaker 4: and I'm here to show it.

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Speaker 2: I like that you remember what you said in that moment,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we do community events just like that.

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Speaker 2: And I met your wife at this one of these

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Speaker 2: community events and she mentioned it to me. First thing

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Speaker 2: she said was that moment when your wife, when your

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Speaker 2: family sees these moments in a moment like that where

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Speaker 2: you just really lock in and go to a different space, right,

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Speaker 2: because that's kind of the football player space.

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Speaker 1: You got to What do they say to you when

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Speaker 1: they see that cut of stuff?

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Speaker 4: Man, they really don't see it too, I think, because

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Speaker 4: like when I'm around family, I'm just like real, like chilling,

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Speaker 4: just kind of like you know, positive and happy and

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Speaker 4: you know, smiley and all that stuff. So like when

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Speaker 4: I when I do get in that zone or whatever.

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Speaker 4: It's just kind of like all right, let him, let him,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, have his time, because.

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Speaker 2: It's such a different thing, right because even within that

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Speaker 2: conversation we went from one energy to the next. But

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Speaker 2: I think you see that click on that field. And

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Speaker 2: you said it when we talked, you said, I still

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Speaker 2: have a lot to show. You've shown a lot. Man,

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Speaker 2: We're in week seven. Have you shown everything you want

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Speaker 4: No chance. I mean there's still so much more. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just a consistency thing, Like just the whole year

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Speaker 4: improve as the year goes on.

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Speaker 2: Well, what you've shown so far has endeared you not

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Speaker 2: only to the fan base, but this coaching staff as well.

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Speaker 2: They named you a starter. You're a new guy coming

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Speaker 2: in You know, nothing was promised coming in here and

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Speaker 2: sign it, but they named you a starter. What is

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Speaker 2: that respect like from those coaches? What does that do

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it means a lot. I mean that's

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Speaker 4: that's part of the reason why I came here to

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Speaker 4: create a positive culture here with this team and with

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Speaker 4: this organization. There's a lot of new faces here, so

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Speaker 4: me just being a part of that. Really, I'm just

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Speaker 2: And when we spoke, you said it you had maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's been really good, you know, just coming

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Speaker 2: And you don't hide that you have a chip on

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Speaker 2: But now you're here, now you're showing everything.

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Speaker 1: Is that chip still there now that you found a

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Speaker 1: home here in Washington? Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean I can't see it ever going anywhere. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just part of how I just came up and

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Speaker 4: how when I was raised, but also just like my

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Speaker 2: Like we talked about, you have been overlooked, but here

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Speaker 2: something just a little different. What about Washington? What about

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Speaker 2: this defense makes this the perfect fit for Jeremy Chinn.

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Speaker 4: I mean I said, it's a bunch of guys who

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Speaker 4: that's something I can relate with. You know, a group

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Speaker 4: make each other better. I remember just coming in training camp,

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Speaker 4: just the competition that we had every single day, and

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Speaker 4: it was just like, man like, I may I like

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Speaker 4: in the season, and just knowing, like looking at the

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Speaker 4: Like I know there was a point of time where

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Speaker 4: So just it's really cool being a part of.

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Speaker 2: One guy that you've really helped make better, at least

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Speaker 2: in his opinion, because we had Quald Martin on a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago and he talked about you're leadership and

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Speaker 2: has it been like playing next to guy like kawand

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Speaker 4: Man, that's been cool. Kawan has impressed you know a

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Speaker 4: lot of people, me being one of them, but I

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Speaker 4: body may not feel like it or mentally you may

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Speaker 2: And it's not just kawand Martin, it's also Percy Butler,

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Speaker 2: another young guy that I don't think we talk about enough.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he gets mentioned enough, but he's on

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Speaker 2: Can you talk about Percy a little bit and what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you said, Percy is another guy extremely hungry.

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Speaker 4: You can tell by the way he plays. You can

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Speaker 4: work every single day. You said, they may look at

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Speaker 4: me like a leader, but you know, I think just

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Speaker 4: we all respect each other's you know, approach to this game,

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Speaker 2: Use the word leader, and I think it's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Another guy that came with you from the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 2: it's Frankie Louvu and you see him in the locker

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Speaker 2: room given those speeches. I tell people all the time,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, when you got a locker room full of

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Speaker 2: Austin Eckler and Bobby Wagner and you're the one given

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Speaker 2: the speech, that means a little something about your leadership.

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Speaker 2: Was that something you saw in Carolina or is that

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Speaker 1: In this role?

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Speaker 4: Man, that's just oos like that was in Carolina. But

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Speaker 4: I mean that's just who he is, like, and everybody

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned going up against this offense, you got

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Speaker 2: You in this defense, are you surprised at all? But

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Speaker 1: Not at all.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not surprised at all, And I think it's

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Speaker 2: In y'all defense is getting better as well. We talked

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Speaker 2: about Franky Louvu, but Bobby Wagner future Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: we have no doubt about that. What has it been

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Bobby. Working with Bobby has been great. Like

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Speaker 4: he's he's so consistent. Uh, just his approach is like

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Speaker 4: But uh, and he's so calm, like just on the

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Speaker 4: you kind of don't want to like communicate with him

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Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna like talk to

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Speaker 4: You can appreciate that so much. It goes such a

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Speaker 1: It's a true brother family.

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Speaker 2: It feels like especially on the defensive side, Like when

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Speaker 2: we were in Arizona, right, we had a couple of

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Speaker 2: it seemed like that game and that win was just

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Speaker 2: a little more sweet because of that tie and that connection.

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Speaker 2: Same thing this weekend, right, you and Frankie, y'all could

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Speaker 2: have stayed there, but y'all came over here. They let

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Speaker 2: you guys go over here, And I'm sure that that

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Speaker 2: means something to you. I'm sure that that, you know,

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Speaker 2: put another chip on your shoulder. So does this game

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Speaker 2: mean a little extra to you this Sunday going against

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it does.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna add like it doesn't. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna add like it's just another game. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: Can you egaborate on that a little bit and say

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Speaker 2: why it means a little more to you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you already touched on it, like it's where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, And I'm sure your teammates feel a lot too.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure it's gonna mean even more too because

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Speaker 2: A lot of these games feel like home games. Arizona

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we cannot wait to see you guys out there,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, shout out to Darryl Green. I remember meeting

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I think he had nineteen straight seasons

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Speaker 2: And Jeremy, before I'll let you go, like I said,

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Speaker 4: Man, you know what it is trying to get another

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Speaker 4: it's contagious. It means a lot. We feel it on

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Speaker 4: you guys are gonna show out. We're gonna show out.

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Speaker 4: Let's make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this win, this extra sweet win for my guy,

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Chin and the rest of these Washington commanders. Brother,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your man, command his family. This is next

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Speaker 2: man up. Our next man up is our safety, and

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Speaker 2: we're so happy to have him. We're glad he's here.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin. So appreciate your brother, Appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Your command, this family, our next man up is not

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Speaker 2: just a legend. He's a coworker. He's a big bro,

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Speaker 2: do a sit down interview with an individual than this

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Speaker 2: guy right here the mouth of the South. Fred Smooth, welcome,

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Speaker 2: my brother and Fred, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Anytime for you, my friend, Hey man, anytime.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Man, I'm real excited to do this because,

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Speaker 2: like you know, we see you around, always laughing, always

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Speaker 2: joking around. But I feel like there's so many layers

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, the father, the gardener, the chef,

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Speaker 2: you know, all the third you know, man, marvel like

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Speaker 2: you're all of these things.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: And I just like, I love these kinds of conversations

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Speaker 2: And let's start the beginning, because when you meet Fresh Smooth,

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Speaker 2: I think within the first five minutes if talking to you,

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Speaker 1: My father was a pastor. I'm a pastor's son. My

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Speaker 2: How did having a pastor as a father, growing up

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a South thing, a Bible belt thing.

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Speaker 5: Like Sundays for football in church. Church first then football.

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Speaker 5: So it was always funny with my dad because my

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Speaker 5: I have my own stance on sou But he did

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Speaker 5: a great job of just letting me be me, not

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Speaker 5: as long as you know the education of the book, yes,

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Speaker 5: now it's up to you to follow it whatever way

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Speaker 2: Was the NFL ever a conversation growing up in that household.

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Speaker 2: Collyways say, you say Sunday's.

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Speaker 5: Football in church, Well, my mother was the athlete, so

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Speaker 5: they go to thing about it. My mama was athlete,

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Speaker 5: So I watched my mama went play. You know, she

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Speaker 5: can't come from her. So around my fourth fifth birthday,

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Speaker 1: She was going forever. Buy me.

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Speaker 5: On Christmas they brand new football and I was like,

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Speaker 5: I always ask her, why would you brought me a

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Speaker 1: So the thing about it was it was then.

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Speaker 5: It was set in stone then and my uncle, which

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Speaker 5: didn't get to live his football dreams like he felt

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Speaker 5: like he should, he was like, you gonna be the one.

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Speaker 1: So he would work with me every day.

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Speaker 5: And I'm talking about since I was five years old,

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Speaker 5: and in Mississippi football it's just the gospel anyway. So

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Speaker 5: oh this boy can actually play football. She realized how

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, She'll have my breath.

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Speaker 5: She was like, the only way you eat breakfast if

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Speaker 1: I earned it.

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Speaker 5: A guy to earn it, So I knew then that

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Speaker 5: I made the high school as a ninth grader, my

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Speaker 1: Wow, man, ninety nine pounds, and I remember my bad.

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Speaker 5: My football coach asked me, He's like, I heard about

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Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to play football? And I like, coach,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best player you ever coach in

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Speaker 5: And then I end up going through a gross spurred

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Speaker 1: So now it's different.

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Speaker 5: So now he's saying, all right, now, I'm finna get

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Speaker 1: Now I'm finna, I'm finna kind of unleash you on Misssippi.

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Speaker 5: So I think it was my mom when it came

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Speaker 1: Wow. So how does your dad view all of this?

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Speaker 5: He loved to play sports, that's his thing. Basketball. You

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Speaker 5: I just cannot wait to dunk on my daddy, So

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Speaker 1: So my whole family is competitive.

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Speaker 5: Like every Sunday in the smooth hout, like my mom

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Speaker 5: So sports was It's always an option.

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Speaker 1: In my family. Did you ever get to dunkle your dad?

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Speaker 5: I dunked on my dad and it felt so cow

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Speaker 5: they wouldn't treat me like I was just so much

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Speaker 5: it gonna be. You make it to college, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: be playing with guys older than you. You make it

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Speaker 5: and you're gonna be playing against grown men.

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Speaker 1: So my uncles would like really.

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Speaker 2: And they were getting you ready for this life you have.

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Speaker 2: When did you realize that the NFL was a real

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Speaker 2: achievable goal for you? Because again, you be get US

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Speaker 2: footballs every year since five. When did you believe that, hey,

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Speaker 1: I would say probably my eleventh grade year. Right, I

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Speaker 5: I'm feeling good, but it was a bad play that

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 5: First of all, it's my coach's birthday. I'm gonna paint

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Speaker 5: a spring jamboree going on. We're playing against the school

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Speaker 5: that fired him. He wants this game. Wow, it's the

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Speaker 2: Like back up, and in my head, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit right here. And the dude just runs fast, so.

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Speaker 5: Fast, and they throw the ball and I never forget

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00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,600
Speaker 5: as I look back and I'm running in slow motion,

441
00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 5: and I'm looking and I'm looking and I remember just.

442
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 1: Diving and I'm not even close to the dude.

443
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 5: He scoes the touchdown, the stadium goes crazy, and as

444
00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 5: I lay on that ground right there, I said, I

445
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,879
Speaker 5: never want to feel this again. And I said, I

446
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 5: never will feel this way again. And starting that year,

447
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,000
Speaker 5: I don't think I gave up another touchdown, probably to

448
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,639
Speaker 5: my junior year of college.

449
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:24,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

450
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,879
Speaker 5: So to me, that's the play that made me failure.

451
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 5: I think it all starts with failure. Will I could

452
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,359
Speaker 5: say the first touchdown catcher called, or the first interception

453
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,120
Speaker 5: that wasn't there.

454
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,879
Speaker 1: It was laying on that ground being burnt like that.

455
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,240
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I don't like this

456
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,840
Speaker 5: feeling and I never want this feeling again. So I

457
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 5: think what sent me into success was my setbacks.

458
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 2: And it definitely catapulted you because then you decide to

459
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,880
Speaker 2: go to school at home.

460
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Not a lot of people do that.

461
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially people like you who kind of do their

462
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 2: own thing, like so, you know, run around.

463
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 5: What made you say you want to stay close to

464
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,400
Speaker 5: the crib, Well, I wanted my mom to be able

465
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 5: to come see me, you know every day. I wanted

466
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 5: my family and my grandmama. She wasn't as that mobile

467
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 5: at that time. And I'm a grandma baby, and I

468
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 5: was like, I want my grandma any game. She want

469
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 5: to be able to see me play. I want her

470
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 5: to see me. And then as I start to talk

471
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 5: to Mississippi State and old missus Southern miss my grandmother

472
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you look good with that maroon in

473
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 5: white ome and I was like, yeah, you're right. And

474
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 5: koch Cherr happened to be the coach at the time,

475
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 5: Great Coach Cheryl Kochherrer comes down, sits in the living room.

476
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 5: My mama literally talked to coacher for like five minutes.

477
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 5: She's like, you going to Mississi State.

478
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

479
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I am I and it was

480
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 5: like yeah, and it just it was perfect.

481
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 1: It worked.

482
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 5: And not only was it a family I got to

483
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 5: represent my state because if you talk to me, Mississippi.

484
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: Comes out of my mouth.

485
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 5: So to represent that, especially during that time when old

486
00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 5: Miss got duce MCALLI study all these other dudes and

487
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 5: they ranked and here come Mississippi State. We just played

488
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 5: in a Cotton Bowl and the SEC Championship. So I'm like,

489
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 5: I want to be a part of this and I

490
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 5: want to. I want to I want to bring all

491
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 5: the shine to Mississippi I'm tired of people talking to

492
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 5: Alabama about Alabama. I'm tired of people talking about LSU.

493
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait to beat Florida by FDA what we did.

494
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 5: So I enjoyed my SEC time because we were the

495
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 5: cream of the crop at the time Mississippi State was.

496
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 5: We was on top of that thing. So it made

497
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 5: me feel good because I represented my Mississippi people, I

498
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 5: represented my family. So it was more than just going

499
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 5: to the SEC school. It was more than just football.

500
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: To me. It was more of us against y'all, true

501
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: pride of Mississippi.

502
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 2: What benefits do you get from having that family that's

503
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: forces from your grandmother, your moms all close like that.

504
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: While you're thinking, cause what benefits you get?

505
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 5: Man, the benefice was endless. Like I knew my support

506
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 5: was going to always be there.

507
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: Good bad in between.

508
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 5: See, the life of a ConA is as life right.

509
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 5: People love you one day and they hate you the next.

510
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 5: I'm the best player in the world one day, I'm

511
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 5: the worst player in the world one day the next day.

512
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 1: But my mom, my grandma, they gonna.

513
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 5: Love me regardless if I catch a touchdown, drop interception.

514
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 5: They don't care football, ain't they world. I wish they world.

515
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 5: That's so that's different because once you get into sports,

516
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 5: I hate to say this, your value.

517
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Is what you can do on the field.

518
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 5: Your production people, they can fall in love with you

519
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 5: as a person, but if your production falls off, then

520
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 5: they understand that you either gonna get fire traded, whatever

521
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 5: it takes. But your parents, that group, that's forever. And

522
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 5: they always let me know that. And once I knew that,

523
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 5: I feel like I couldn't be stopped. And that's why

524
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 5: I tell people about time. Long as you know you

525
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 5: got people that got your back, it ain't too much

526
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 5: that you cannot do. And my grandma always instilled us

527
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 5: in that the only person stopping you from being great

528
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: as you that's it. Now, if you're gonna choose to

529
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,719
Speaker 5: live with that the rest of your life, that's up

530
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 5: to you. And that always made me think in certain

531
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 5: moments like, yeah, I'm gonna go get it.

532
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do what I can do.

533
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: And that's interesting because your journey kind of has been

534
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 2: a lot of support system and mentorship because soon as

535
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: you get into the league, you come into the league. Yeah,

536
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 2: Darryl Green, right here in My l A League in

537
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: the film room with you every day when you're practicing,

538
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: but you're a rookie, did you really realize who they

539
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: were coming into the building? Like, did you understand what

540
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 2: you were gonna get?

541
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 5: First of all, footballer story, I knew every player on

542
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 5: every roster. I knew the history of the team. I

543
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 5: knew Samy Bar, I knew everything. So most definitely the

544
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 5: day I got drafted, I knew what room I was

545
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 5: walking into. Now did I know what education I was

546
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 5: about to get? Did not know I was gonna get

547
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 5: an Ivy League education and playing defensive back, playing cornerback.

548
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 5: The first time I walked in the room, Coach Schottenheimen

549
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 5: drafted me.

550
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: Right I walk in the room.

551
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 5: Luckily, I had already had a connection with d He

552
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 5: would call me while I was in college. He knew

553
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 5: about me, so he was already schooling me. So I

554
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 5: already had a good relationship with him. But then I

555
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 5: got Champ Bailey, who we just being rivals in the

556
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 5: SEC who I've been watching my whole life. Then I

557
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 5: got Darryl Green. So once I say it, I sat

558
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 5: down in the mean room. I sat down for like

559
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 5: three minutes. Then I just get up and I walked

560
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 5: out through the mean room. I walked to the coaches

561
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 5: off and I sat down. I was like, Marty, why

562
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: did you draft me? And he was like, what are

563
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 5: you talking about? I said, Man, I'm sitting in the

564
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 5: defensive backroom with two of the greatest comingbacks that ever

565
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 5: played the game. Trump is still young at this time.

566
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: He hadn't really turned in the champ Bailey yet. He

567
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 5: was like, son, go in there, soak up the information,

568
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 5: learn what you're gonna learn, and let the rest work

569
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 5: itself out.

570
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: And that settled me down.

571
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 5: And once I got to Darryl, because they kind of

572
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 5: signed Daryl to me, They like they introduced us Fred Smooth,

573
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 5: this Dale Green.

574
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 1: Dal Green is Fresd smooth. They are Green. You got

575
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 1: a mentor him you at So Darrel was like, I

576
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: got him. I got him.

577
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 5: So we had a lot in come, especially from being

578
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 5: from the South, all kinds of stuff we used to

579
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 5: talk about. So our relationship organically just it happened, and

580
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 5: it was more than on the field. So I'm talking

581
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: to Daryl more off the field almost than I am

582
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 5: on the feeling and when we own the field, like

583
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 5: this went on for months where we would break the huddle,

584
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 5: and he would like be schooling me as we were

585
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: walking to our to do our job, like, hey, oh,

586
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 5: come on, we got slots over here. They probably gonna

587
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: try to tack us with a double post, or they

588
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 5: probably gonna try to throw it to our side since

589
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 5: it's third down, third and short. So it's just cunstant

590
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 5: and I'm just I'm soaking it up. I'm loving it.

591
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 5: Then while you see any clipping me and Darrell, it's

592
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 5: just yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yepping back

593
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 5: for because I'm just trying to pick his brain about everything.

594
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 5: And I remember one day a man there watching film

595
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 5: by myself, but I'm watching film on Darryl. Him comes

596
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 5: into the room. She'll like, what are you doing? Like,

597
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 5: I'm trying to study what Dee Green do? He like,

598
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 5: let me tell you.

599
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: So, cain't nobody d Green but d Green.

600
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 5: He like, unless you run a four to one flat

601
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 5: and you're gonna play with somebody else's technique, you can't

602
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 5: do that. And then I thought to myself, like, yeah,

603
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 5: can't nobody do that. It can't be mimic his playing

604
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 5: style can't be mimic twenty years in the same position,

605
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 5: can't be mimicked his effect on and he did get

606
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 5: He did get to that.

607
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: He knew I loved like helping people. That was my theme.

608
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: And he was like, man, he said, I liked it

609
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: about you. You like to do stuff in the community. He

610
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 5: was like, because what you do in the community go

611
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: out last what you do on this field. He said,

612
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 5: I try to be a better Dare Green off the

613
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 5: field than I am on the field, because people will

614
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 5: forget your plays. They don't forget when you touch their household.

615
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. These are fans for life.

616
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 5: Then, so I was like, all right, I'm gonna try

617
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: to mimic what he do off the field. And this

618
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 5: got me to where I am today. So I learned

619
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 5: so much from this guy, Like I owe a lot

620
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 5: of my quick start.

621
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: In the NFL to Darryl Like most definitely.

622
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was hard to shake that intimidation though,

623
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: when you're looking at them like again, like why did

624
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: y'all drafting?

625
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: Like why am I here? Y'all good?

626
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 5: Like, I don't think it was intimidation. It was kind

627
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 5: of starscrust, which I had never been starscruck like that. So,

628
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 5: like I said, you got when you got guys of

629
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: this caliber. Think about it now, now, did I sit

630
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 5: back and think about it? When I was drafted to

631
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 5: this team, I had five Hall of famers on it.

632
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Fuck, that's crazy.

633
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 5: So and a couple of more future that I'd end

634
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: up playing with, like London Fletcher and a couple of

635
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: more guys just got a chance to be Hall of Fame.

636
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 5: So I had a wealth of knowledge. And yeah it

637
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 5: came with intimidation. Fact, but I was never intimidated because

638
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 5: that's just never really my thing. I laughed my way

639
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: through intimidation. Right, So when did you shake? That's being starstruk? Like,

640
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 5: when did you have that moment?

641
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: Cause I know you right, I know there was a

642
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: moment where he said, you know what, I'm just as

643
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: good as these guys.

644
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't care.

645
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: It was it was like the second day of practice. Wow,

646
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 5: on my second day of practice, I was like, I belong.

647
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: I'm locking them down just like they locking them down.

648
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make this the hardest choice coach ever had

649
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: to make about who's gonna start. So I felt like

650
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: I belonged then, and I felt like I belong when

651
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: they started to like really put their hands on my.

652
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: Game and say, don't do that this way, do it

653
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: this way.

654
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 5: So now I know the veteran guys are taking interest

655
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 5: in me, and they like, all right, it's a lot

656
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 5: to work with with this fella. Let me put my

657
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 5: touch and spin on them. Then I was like, yeah,

658
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 5: I most definitely now I belong. Well which prime to

659
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: I d tell me from the door? Oh baby, you belong.

660
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: So when you got guy like that, and then I

661
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 5: remember having to sit down and talk with him and

662
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: he was like, you know what, I think I'm gonna

663
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: retire and this is like before the season, and he like,

664
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 5: I want to give you my cause people don't understand

665
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 5: I won't number twenty three for like the first week

666
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: that I was ever here. It's not even a lot

667
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 5: of pictures with me with you. And then I was like,

668
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 5: all right, I want you to pick up with the

669
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 5: old boy left off. And he gave me his lock

670
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: a Jersey Jordan contract everything wow, like everything. So now

671
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: I'm really feeling like I have made it right now,

672
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: like I'm really like so I'm really so, I'm really

673
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: get the little lead of my dream a guy pattern

674
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 5: my whole game. After had just handed me everything. So

675
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 5: I was like, I got big shoes to feel. Let me,

676
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: let me really take this very very serious.

677
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: Because they wouldn't put that attention on you if he

678
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: was a bump. Right, you tell yourself like, hey, I

679
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: got it. No, No, these the guys I've watched the

680
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: long time.

681
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: These the guys.

682
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 5: I mimic these the guys I watched these guys. I

683
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 5: idolize these guys. I want to be on that level.

684
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

685
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's a lot of a lot of pressure

686
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: come with that, But it's pressure in this building no

687
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 5: matter what.

688
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: For sure, Man, we're gonna talk about Dall Green a

689
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: little more, but I want to want to talk more

690
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: about you because you didn't get just to play with

691
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: Champ he gets to play with Dean, didn't get just

692
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: to play with Darryl Green got to play with Sean Springs,

693
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: your boy, your partner and crime.

694
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Man.

695
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: I love hearing your stories about you and Shawn Springs. Man,

696
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: tell us the story. For those that haven't heard from

697
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: next Man of Oddies has heard, tell us the conversation

698
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: you and Shawn Springs had when he walked through the

699
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: building for that first time.

700
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Shut. If you know Shud Springs, he's a different guy.

701
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State guy.

702
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: He's a like you would think nobody can be more

703
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 5: arrogant than football players until you meet Shudd Springs because

704
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 5: it's football players, and then it's Shudged Springs. So I'm

705
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: literally like, it's the off season. They're bringing free agency

706
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: in and out. I'm just downstairs having the workout.

707
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Shun has just.

708
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: Signed with the team. Nobody really knows yet. He walks

709
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 5: into the locker room. He seen me sending him a locker.

710
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 5: He walks up. The first thing he says to me,

711
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: how he's doing, Fred Smooth. It's a privilege for you

712
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 5: to meet me.

713
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: So I turned around and I'm listening, like it's this guy.

714
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: What is he talking about?

715
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 5: And he's like he was like, you know what, cannot

716
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: wait for us to get started this year. I know

717
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 5: you played with Champ and d Green and the Hall

718
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 5: of them guys, but you're gonna be the best side kick.

719
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, like, no, no, you off the rip.

720
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: This is off the rip.

721
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: That when I was like this dude is an idiot,

722
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: I'm like, I like this dude is. And we've been

723
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: we've been tight since then, very much a brotherhood and

724
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 5: we'll find ourselves in like the craziest circumstances, Like if

725
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: y'all could hear some of the conversations me and Seawn

726
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 5: Spring had doing games. I think nobody even think we're

727
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 5: having these conversations in the middle of a huddle, like

728
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: New York were.

729
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Playing against New York. This is the year they won

730
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

731
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: Right before the game, me and him looking at Brandon Jacobs,

732
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, one of us gonna get hurted, big boy,

733
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: big boy. So now the first quarter start said they

734
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: didn't kind of starting again, so well menum, we go

735
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: back to the hudder. So I'm like, blue is it me?

736
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 5: It's all these giants, actually giants, So.

737
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: We started going through them.

738
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: Plexico six ' six, Shocky six ' five, Brandon Jacobs

739
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: six four, three hundred pound, He'll run it back like

740
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: Eli man is six ' five.

741
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the biggest team I.

742
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 5: Think I ever played, Like this is not normal, like

743
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: we would have and then we would have these conversations

744
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: doing different games, and like I can say what Chun

745
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: did though, he really normalized football for me, Like I

746
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: was already a little ahead of my speed, but he

747
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: really like normalized it made it fun because I can

748
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 5: see what I did to other people making it fun

749
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: in a way. He was one of the first guy

750
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 5: that actually made it fun for me. I didn't have

751
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: to talke that torch when it came to him.

752
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: He made it fun.

753
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: But all being is because he's a study, he's a bookhound.

754
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: He's gonna get everything done in a very professional manner.

755
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: But also it's a person behind their helmet. And that's

756
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: what I'd like to try to get to people all

757
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 5: the time and tell them, I know y'all look at

758
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 5: us as just an entity, but it's people behind these

759
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 5: helmets and these face mans.

760
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: What makes Sean?

761
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: What did Seawan do to help make the game fun

762
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: for you that you hadn't gotten before?

763
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: Well, it ain't nothing special he did.

764
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: It was just more of we was on the same

765
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: super same weay like that brotherhood really was everything I'm not.

766
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 1: He is everything he not I in so we just

767
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: fit very perfect. Right. So is he arrogant as he is?

768
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: I would like bring him off his high horse very quick.

769
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: Then he'll be like, n.

770
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Friend, you're a old shoe.

771
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: We should trade you to Cleveland.

772
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: This is really how these brothers all the time.

773
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 5: Not like he would he'll do certain stuff, like I'm

774
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: good at pranking people stuff, but he would like all

775
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 5: set my pranking with with snarling. It's like he'll write

776
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 5: a letter and put it in my lock and be like,

777
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: I really do hope we trade you to Detroit. And

778
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're supposed to be my friend, man, Like

779
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: why would you go do something like that?

780
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: But just start the day off like that? That's fun,

781
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: Like it takes the edge off man.

782
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's players get enough love for

783
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 5: being sometime that the glue players that hold the team

784
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: together and bring them.

785
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: To Yeah, because that was you. That's your even in studio,

786
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: right man, you are a jokester. You are gonna talk trash.

787
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: You love it, but it's not malicious. It's not malicious

788
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: at all.

789
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: No, No, you just love making people laugh and love breaking

790
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: that that ie or bury breaking that ice.

791
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? Fred? Where does that come from?

792
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Because I mean, have you tell you been like this?

793
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: You was a little kid. This smooth family, this is

794
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: my mother. Ain't if you come to a smooth family reunion,

795
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: you would have to wait in line to talk wow

796
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: because you ain't loud enough.

797
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: First of all, Like my mama.

798
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: Wasvery loud, like my uncle's very loud. So we are

799
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: just yapping and every day, like I said, my family

800
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: came to my house every day, like when everybody gets

801
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 5: off off.

802
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: Of work, they come in and we all sitting in

803
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: the front yard. Pow wow. That's what it's gonna be.

804
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: We about energy, we're about people, and were about trash

805
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 5: talking each other like they's just something that is natural

806
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: to who we are.

807
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: I think it may be.

808
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 5: More just a Mississippi thing, like it's so it's nothing

809
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 5: to do down there, would talk trash.

810
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: And eat food like this. That's what it is.

811
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 5: The food bring us together, but that the talking keeps

812
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 5: us together. So it's a smooth thing. Like if you

813
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: meet anybody, My aunts are the loudest people in America.

814
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: Like I tell them to turn the volume down on

815
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: your neck, you know, you know if I'm telling you

816
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: so loud. So everybody's loud, everybody's laughing, and everybody's fun.

817
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: That's a smooth and reunion, Like that's what happens, and

818
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: that is you smooth man. You are the best trash

819
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: talker I've ever met. Man, you are literally like this

820
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: all the time. Like people I meet people fans and

821
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: things like that, and they're like, what's Fred like? Look

822
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: when the cameras is off, what's Fred like?

823
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: You know?

824
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, He's always the same, He's always in man.

825
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: One way to be, one way to be, and I

826
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: respect and I appreciate that.

827
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Man.

828
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: So talking trash talk you want the best trash talkers ever? Right,

829
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: give me a list of your top five people that

830
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: you enjoy trash talking to. That could be teammates, that

831
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: could be former team you know whatever. Who are your

832
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: top five favorite people? Fred Smooth likes talking trash to

833
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: me and Chad just its just classy.

834
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 5: We classmates. We came out together. We are birds, are

835
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: the same feather. When I say, Chad ain't got a

836
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: malicious bone and love.

837
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: To just happen.

838
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: It's such a thing as happy trash talkers, and Chad

839
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 5: was always that. So even though me and Chad really

840
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 5: talked at each other, we want enemies now.

841
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Me and Steve Smith was in him, oh man, but

842
00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: we talked.

843
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 5: Now were tight, now, y'all another guy, classmate, We all

844
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 5: came out together.

845
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: Steve intense. He's a malicious trash talker. So that's difference.

846
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: I had a couple of guys on my like Me

847
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: and Ray Brown Old Office Blind Office of Linan played

848
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 5: nearly twenty years. I love me some Ray Brown, and

849
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: I love talking trash to Ray Brown because he would.

850
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: Talk it back, all right.

851
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 5: And Officer Linman. I don't know why I always verbally

852
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: attack offensive lineman no one. I'm one hundred and eighty

853
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 5: five pounds, but I just love the contest, the sparring

854
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 5: match with them.

855
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: Now.

856
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: The other one is you'll never You'll never guess this one.

857
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: He's a long snapper eating all Bright the red snapper.

858
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 5: One of my favorite teammates of all time. And when

859
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: I say he's one of those just he don't get

860
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 5: how he don't get lower, but when he take his jabs,

861
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: they just sting on the whole.

862
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: Another level. Man.

863
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: He would literally come sit beside me in my locker

864
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 5: like at the practice. Every day. We would just go

865
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 5: at each other. That was our thing. So I mis

866
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: eat the all right. That's when I got a long snapper.

867
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 5: And the last person I enjoyed talking trash to was

868
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: one Coach Gibbs. Coach Gibs, Oh, I used to get

869
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: that Coach Gibbs every day. We enjoyed I Remember one day,

870
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: I'm talking to coach before practice because dealt with the

871
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 5: guys used to use me. If they ain't want to

872
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: do something, they'll send me in coach office. So it's raining,

873
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 5: bads like, hey man, smooke on in the office. Tell

874
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: coach we need to just walk through. We don't need

875
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: to do no practice. I go up to the coach.

876
00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 5: Guys don't want to practice, Tell them, guys, this is

877
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: Washington weather. How meet y'all outside of thudy. So I

878
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 5: was like, all right, I said, that's a shame, coach.

879
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: So we walking outside just raining, almost hurricane. I got

880
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: to hold onto a tree. The weather is terrible. So

881
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: we're warming up and then warm up. I never stretched

882
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 5: like that was my thing. So I just walk around

883
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: and joke that was my thing. So lightning scrite. If

884
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: lightning scrip, we don't have to ask to go in,

885
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 5: it's automatically go in. So we're starting to run back

886
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 5: up and Coach Gibbs running and he's looking at me.

887
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 5: I'm looking at him.

888
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: And I said, Coach, that's a shame.

889
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 5: It took Jesus to throw lightning at us to get

890
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: you to not work us to death. So I love

891
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: talking trash to coach Gibbs most death, and you got

892
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: to have a good relationship with your coach to do

893
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 5: all of that stuff.

894
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: Man, did you ever have a moment where you regretted

895
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: talking trash when you were like, oh, man, maybe maybe

896
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: went a little too far.

897
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Bitual line step many time? Many time? Did I go

898
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: too far?

899
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: But either I go apologized, I laughed off. I tell

900
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: him my function probably wouln't should have went there, I

901
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: tell him after the game. But during the game doing

902
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 5: those folk quarters. Everything's fair in love because this war. Yeah, yeah,

903
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: everything's fair in little war. But afterward I go be like, yeah, man,

904
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Man, I didn't have to go that deep.

905
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: How did you and Steve Smith reconcileed? Because honest, it's

906
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: the first off I heard you say. You guys actually cool.

907
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Now I know that that was a thing because because.

908
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: He been doing TV lately.

909
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: He came to the stadium I think three years ago,

910
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 5: four years ago, and we hugged it out in the tunnel.

911
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: He basically picked me up and carried me for a

912
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: hundred yards like what are you doing?

913
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: Cause, like he said, man, we just up competitors trash talkers.

914
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 5: But we don't really hate each other as football players. Now,

915
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 5: our game sets us against each other. H the world

916
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 5: watches us, spar the world talks trash to us. So,

917
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: but we don't really hate each other. So we reconcile.

918
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: It a federal nowhere, federal stadium. That's the funniest part

919
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 5: about it. And it was all good.

920
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Man. We've been good ever since.

921
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 5: But at first it was very intense. Like I tell him,

922
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: if I seen him at a grocery store and on

923
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: the bread out, we're finna go in it. Somebody to

924
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 5: throw them off.

925
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you I don't know what you said to

926
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: him that game to make him go crazy on you

927
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: after that one game, but boy, he had to be mad.

928
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Man.

929
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: But I know, you get other people's skin. Like listen,

930
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 5: they get under my skin. I get under the skin

931
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: when I just do a good job. But I can

932
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 5: laugh at myself, so when they do say something, I'd

933
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 5: be like, oh, that's a good one. Like I'm not

934
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 5: I'm not ever mad if somebody one ups me at

935
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 5: a trash talking scenario, but I barely get one up.

936
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: So it's fine.

937
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: And I think that's the endearing quality about you, right,

938
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: because once you talk trash as much as you just

939
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: a wild boy, and all over the place the fans, man,

940
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: they love you, bro. You are the fans favoriteverywhere we go,

941
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: wes Fred? Where's Fred?

942
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: What about the DMV made you decide?

943
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: And I asked all the legends this because it's very

944
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: again you guys, we talked about taming. We talked to

945
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: this Tanner because he's from Florida. You're not from him, Bro,

946
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 2: But you have made this home. Not only even made

947
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: this home, you have taken care of the community. You're

948
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: a part of every event. You were just at an

949
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: event earlier today. Why how was this place able to

950
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: make Fred Smooth feel like he was at home?

951
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: First of all, Drill Green was that that blueprint on

952
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: how to get things done, how to touch the community.

953
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 5: And then it's like, I just never looked at myself

954
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: other than a person. I never took myself serious. So

955
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 5: maybe people looked at me and be like, oh that friend.

956
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 5: I never took myself serious like.

957
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: That and fan in an action. Man, If a fan gonna.

958
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: Take his time to ask me for an autograph, the

959
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: least I could do is give him autograph, have a conversation,

960
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: treat him like a person man, just the human side

961
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: of stuff. Because I always said to me, if I

962
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: want them to treat me like a human, I need

963
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 5: to treat them like a human, and you'll be shocked.

964
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: People don't forget stuff. People don't forget stuff.

965
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: And the way I think, the way I went about

966
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: doing things, like let's say I would take care of

967
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: family every Christmas. There was always one of my things.

968
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: I would take care of different families every Christmas. I

969
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 5: would buy every gift, and I would also buy them

970
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: Christmas dinner and I would take it personally myself, every gift,

971
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: the dinner, get it dropped off over there. I would

972
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: bring no cameras. I bring no cameras because I always

973
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 5: looked at myself and said, if somebody was doing that

974
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: for me, would I want them to bring a camera.

975
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't want them to bring no cameras. So

976
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do this.

977
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: So just the small details of treating people like people,

978
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: and I think people start.

979
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: To love you back I loved on them.

980
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 5: And then when you go through situations, you become especially

981
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 5: as the athlete, time stamped a part of their life. Yes,

982
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 5: they remember five, they remember seven, they remember two, thousand

983
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: and one. You are time stamped on that, but they'll

984
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: never forget the first time they met you. I had

985
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: an interaction with you, how you treated this, And I

986
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: think that's the difference. Some guys want to play and

987
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: be a part of an organization, some guys want to

988
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 5: play and be a part of a community.

989
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: I want it both.

990
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 5: That's the way I played in my whole life. That's

991
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 5: the way it's always gonna be with me because I

992
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: love people, man. I love talking to people. I love

993
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 5: chopping it up with them. Man, I love just hearing

994
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 5: a little bit about them. You know, it ain't always

995
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: about me.

996
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

997
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: Not only have you invested in your community, but now

998
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: your family is a part of this community as well.

999
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Your daughter could end up being one of the coldest

1000
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: to ever play out of here. As far as basketball,

1001
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: your son looks just like you.

1002
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: Man. You have these supreme athletes now and now your father.

1003
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: What has that been like? Man?

1004
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: Watching your kids they're almost adults now and they following

1005
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: in your footsteps.

1006
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 5: It's so funny, man, because we don't when you're doing something,

1007
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: you don't know who are you bringing for the ride?

1008
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: See my grandmother, you.

1009
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: Say all the time, like I enjoyed this ride that

1010
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 5: you are taking my daughter and my son's zone. Because

1011
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: my aunties and uncles, they're going to these all star

1012
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 5: games with me. They're coming to see this college atmosphere.

1013
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: They're going on the road. They going to places where

1014
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: they're never thought they'd go. And now my kids, I'm

1015
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 5: the passenger. They are taking me on the ride. And

1016
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: now I got to take her to smook A, New

1017
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 5: Pennsylvania and all of these places because she's playing aau

1018
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 5: ball And now I get the ride back and be

1019
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: the proud parent and watch her take it Jesse as serious,

1020
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: watching her get up every morning at four thirty five

1021
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: o'clock and hit the track just like me, hit.

1022
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: The gym, doing all the hungry things I do.

1023
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 5: And to see my son making plays as a ninth

1024
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: grader in varsity is crazy because he's a step of

1025
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 5: ahead of where he should be. But he wants to

1026
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 5: get out of dash shadow. I don't want to be

1027
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 5: the second one. I want to be the only smooth.

1028
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: That's how he feels, and that's what kind of competitive

1029
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: area I try to give for them, like it ain't

1030
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 5: never good enough. And my daughter come home say I

1031
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 5: just hit fifty one points where somebody hit fifty two.

1032
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: I wish I could dap you up for that, but

1033
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 5: somebody already did that before. So I let them know

1034
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 5: when to achieve is to achieve again. To be a

1035
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 5: great bro, you got to do it over over over again.

1036
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: So I try to get their message to them. But

1037
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: other than that, I am enjoying the ride.

1038
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: They keep me youthful, they keep me up. They even

1039
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: teach me new words and all dance.

1040
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: So you know, it's just it's a crazy thing. And

1041
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: knowing that this is home for them, this why it

1042
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 5: is home for me. They dadded from Mississippi. They ain't

1043
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 5: from Mississippi. They from the DMV.

1044
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, And now you're bringing them into even more

1045
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: stuff because then this Sunday we will see Darryl Green,

1046
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: your OG's jersey get retired. Man, First question on that,

1047
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: how special is that going to be for you? Somebody

1048
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: that's literally gained from his experience and gained from being

1049
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: able to learn and follow from a player like him.

1050
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 5: Man, it's crazy, first of all, should have been happy.

1051
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 5: Second of all, just for me to know that I've

1052
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 5: been in a huddle with Darrel Green in out of

1053
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 5: the huddle of situations, knowing that twenty eight will never

1054
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 5: be worn again, not.

1055
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: In this place. It's unbelievable.

1056
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 5: When I come on, when I leave here and we turn,

1057
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 5: I can go down there and make a write and

1058
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 5: turn on a route twenty eight.

1059
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: This named Darrel.

1060
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: Green, Bulevard, he gets the key to the city Saturday.

1061
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 5: Everything like it showed you that some way, this dude

1062
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: played twenty plus years at one position dominated in some way,

1063
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: this Hall of Fame player was actually a better person

1064
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 5: off the field. How could that ever be with all

1065
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 5: the achievements that you did in this NFL to play

1066
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 5: two decades? Listen, do you know how many players are

1067
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 5: gonna be there in the decades that it ranges. It's

1068
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 5: gonna be a joke. Gives man there, It's gonna be

1069
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 5: a centent of momster. It canna be guys, then think

1070
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 5: about it. When Darren made they play in eighty five,

1071
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 5: I was six years old. Wow, I was six years old.

1072
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 5: That tells you the amount of time and the people

1073
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 5: that he's touched.

1074
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: His value to this community is I think people forget

1075
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: that he even lived in Texas. Nobody Texas up.

1076
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: It's Darren Green, Washington, DC, do you know how many

1077
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 5: kids that are right now in their thirties in forties

1078
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 5: got a Darren Green memory or something he did not

1079
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: on the field, something he did for them in the community.

1080
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: So it's like I say, sometimes it's bigger than football man.

1081
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 5: Darren Green is bigger than football. So just to be

1082
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 5: a part of that and seeing that twenty eight most

1083
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: definitely I have a tear coming down my face. Hey well,

1084
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 5: fred Man, you are bigger than football man. We appreciate you, brother.

1085
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: We're getta inin't on some fun though. Man, I know

1086
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: how you like. You like your list?

1087
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: Top five corners, you have to where that Washington helmet,

1088
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: all time, top fight.

1089
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 5: What something much you want? And I know you have

1090
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 5: all time? Well, okay, Number one Darryl Green, yep, that's

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00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 5: a gift. Number two Chump Bailey. Number three the Sanders. Kay,

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Speaker 5: Now this is when they get chocky because number four

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00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: it's Fried Fred Smooth. I wore the twenty one and

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00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: the twenty seven, sir, all right. I was the first

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00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: player to lead this team in interceptions in their first

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00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 5: four years since Darrel Green. Talk about it, all right,

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00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 5: So I gots some rugers myself. Now the one team

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00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 5: MV PEO before I did it all Man, the fifth guy.

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00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 5: That's when it get murky, because now I got Shun Springs, Di'angelo, Hall,

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Speaker 5: Carlos Rogers.

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00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Like, it's some dudes dudes inting there. It's tough. You're

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00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: gonna leave Sean off.

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00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna split that that lest fifth player and

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00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make it three players Oka, di Angelo Hall,

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00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 5: Shun Springs, Colos Rogers. Okay, that's fair. Now you ain't

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00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: gonna make none of your boys have set No. I

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00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 5: just don't believe they should be left off the list.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't like the one position that we have got

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Speaker 5: right through the test of time here is the cornerback position.

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00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Sir. We continuously get it right.

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00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 5: So it's too hard to say the top five in

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00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 5: their position. Now you got the king and then you

1114
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 5: got the rest of us. Yes, sir, that's really tough. Well, Fred,

1115
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 5: we're gonna be taking on the Carolina Panthers sunday Man,

1116
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: what do you expect to see from your Washington commanders.

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00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: I expect to.

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00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 5: See them get back, get back on the same tempo

1119
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: they was. I expect to see them learn from their loss.

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00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 5: Feel salty about their loss, want to get back to physicality.

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00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna see them. I think they know what day

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00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 5: it is. They understand twenty eight is getting retired. The

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00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 5: best thing you can ever get there.

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Speaker 2: Green is a w man, Sir, Hell to the W,

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00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: Hell to the w and Hell the freshmoth brother.

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Speaker 1: They get soci for your time.

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Speaker 2: You don't mean you could sit and talk for hours

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let you go. Man, Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time. Commander's family, our Next Man Up.

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Speaker 2: A true legend, friend smooth, Thank you brother, any tire brother.

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Speaker 2: Commander's Family. We hope you've enjoyed these special guests on

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Speaker 2: this episode of Next Man Up. If you want to

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Speaker 2: catch our other episodes, go to the Commander's YouTube page.

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Speaker 2: We can catch episodes from even last season of the

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Speaker 2: Next Man Up podcast, and of course you can stream

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Speaker 2: the audio wherever you get your podcasts. I am Bryan

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Speaker 2: Corple Junior and this is Next Man Up. I'll see

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Speaker 2: y'all next Friday.