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Speaker 2: Normally we do to catch a Cheater here, but something

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Speaker 2: happened yesterday that was so insane the continuation of yesterday's

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Speaker 2: to catch a cheater will happen next hour, so we

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Speaker 2: figured we'll do a first day follow up here instead.

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Speaker 3: So here's your first day follow up.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for our first day

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Speaker 2: follow up, and he's getting ghosted by Lilah. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her see if she'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.

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Speaker 2: But first, Zach, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 4: Like maybe two weeks?

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Speaker 5: It's been a minute.

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Speaker 6: Were you trying to hit her up in that time?

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Speaker 1: So I did.

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Speaker 7: Message her like a few times, and they may or

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Speaker 7: may not have sent the memes, but like good ones,

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Speaker 7: like you know, like like funny, like jokey ones, not

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Speaker 7: like desperate memes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, not like memes of somebody crying with a phone

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Speaker 2: call them back like funny me.

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Speaker 7: I mean like some somewhere in between those two.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I don't know how that is going to play out.

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Speaker 8: But let's let's go backwards. Why don't you tell us

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Speaker 8: about the date, Zach? How was it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought the date was fine. I thought

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Speaker 4: everything went well. Basically, it's actually kind of cool. I thought,

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Speaker 8: First date.

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Speaker 7: It's usually boring, let's do an escape room. So it

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Speaker 7: was fun, but like it was low key stressful, you know,

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Speaker 7: like but like teamwork first date, you know, go big

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Speaker 7: or go home, right, take big swings, got some drinks. Afterwards,

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Speaker 7: things were obviously more relaxed and less like pressure filled again,

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Speaker 7: good sign. We stayed until the bar closed, like we

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Speaker 7: were just talking and like, I don't know, she's so

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Speaker 7: like so she's super smart, like annoyingly smart, like in

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Speaker 7: a good way. Like she's funny. I don't know, Like

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Speaker 7: even though I was nervous, I was laughing, but it

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So it ended there was

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Speaker 4: a kiss, not like you know, rom com like in

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Speaker 7: Okay, I saw a kiss more than a peck, less

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Speaker 7: than a makeout, you know, So like I thought that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, who kissed too? Or was it mutual?

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Speaker 4: I made the first move, you know, but she leaned

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Speaker 2: And ten, right, Like, let's say it didn't seem like

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Speaker 2: she was just kissing you because she had to like

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Speaker 2: yeah I've been there, no.

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Speaker 7: Cause that's like tech, that's like a peck, right, and

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Speaker 7: then like it's quick, this is more than a peck.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, all right? And how did you end things

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Speaker 2: with her? Like what did you did she say she

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Speaker 7: I mean I didn't specifically say like what are you

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Speaker 7: doing next week? I just was like I agree, yeah,

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Speaker 7: like you know, like I'll call you or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 7: I'll text you and she's like, okay, cool.

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Speaker 5: And then that that was. That was it.

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Speaker 8: Is there anything that happened on the date that could

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Speaker 6: You think?

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Speaker 7: I mean sometimes I can at like competitive when I mean,

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Speaker 4: So in Escape Room, like maybe I was getting to

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Speaker 4: like passionates I guess like, hey you.

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Speaker 5: Grab that key, like the things?

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Speaker 2: Did you freak out at all, like like a huge

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Speaker 7: No, we escaped, which was nice. It wasn't one of

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Speaker 4: If you don't get it.

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Speaker 7: It was just like, hey, escape, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, escape the room.

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Speaker 7: It gets hectic and a little stressful, but like in

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Speaker 6: OK.

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Speaker 7: So I felt like it's possible that maybe I rubbed

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Speaker 5: Oh, I grabbed that key and you know, but she

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Speaker 4: Of doing the same thing to me. So I don't know, so.

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Speaker 6: Like be honest with yourself.

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Speaker 8: Was it more like giving orders or was it like

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Speaker 8: more of a playful you do it, no, and.

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Speaker 3: Then I'll do this.

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Speaker 4: I want to say it was playful, but it might

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: That's the thing is, sometimes you can't see yourself. If

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Speaker 7: I was like standing outside myself watching maybe, but I'm

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's how or maybe she

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe you threw a look and you weren't

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Speaker 2: like annoyed at her, but maybe we're thinking about something

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Speaker 2: she's like, oh, wow, you know what I mean, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that happens.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: One tent how in there.

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Speaker 2: I would kind of explain why that would probably not

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Speaker 2: get you another date most definitely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I did that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do that. Cool?

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Speaker 2: All right, man, Well, we'll play us all come back

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Speaker 2: and then call her and see if she'll tell us

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Speaker 2: why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's first Day follow up.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by

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Speaker 2: E Lilah. So we're about to call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe

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Speaker 2: get him another date. But first, Zach, why don't you

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Speaker 2: catch us up on your situation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she is super gorgeous, super smart.

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Speaker 7: I felt like, okay, let's you know, like, let's go big.

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Speaker 7: And we went to an escape room first date. I

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Speaker 7: felt like that was a big swing and I thought

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Speaker 7: it went pretty well. We did kiss, we escaped the room,

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Speaker 7: he went to drinks afterwards, kiss at the end of

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Speaker 7: the date. Ghostings since then, I feel like maybe maybe

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Speaker 7: if I had to guess, like, I know, I can

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Speaker 7: get competitive, so maybe I was a little competitive in

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Speaker 7: the escape room. Maybe you know, she felt like I

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Speaker 7: was too pushy. I'm not sure that could potentially be it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know know. Okay, are you ready for us

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Speaker 3: to call her?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go. Hello, I may seek a

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Speaker 3: lia please.

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Speaker 5: This is Slilah.

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Speaker 3: Hi Leila, how are you?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Lilah, I'm Nina also on the show. All right,

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Speaker 6: I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Hi, So this is wait. So this is one

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Speaker 5: of those radio shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those. Have you ever listened to the

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Speaker 2: Jebel Show before?

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Speaker 5: I'm sure here and there, I guess I'm not. I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I usually just kind of listen to whatever's

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, hopefully it's us sometimes if that'd be cool

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Speaker 2: if you will check it out. But anyway, we do

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Speaker 2: a segment on our show and it's called the first

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Speaker 2: Day follow Up. What that is is if you go

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Speaker 2: on a day with somebody and you end up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting them. So we actually got

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Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, my god. So, so people actually do this? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but I didn't think this was real.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they do actually do this, and you're one

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Speaker 2: of those people right now.

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Speaker 3: How's it feel?

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Speaker 4: Yay?

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Speaker 3: Congrats?

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Speaker 5: Oh I don't know. And wait, what is this about?

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry? What is this about?

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Speaker 7: Again?

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Speaker 3: Well, you went on a date with a guy named

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Speaker 3: Zach recently.

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Speaker 5: Mm okay, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Zach said he really liked you, but he hasn't heard

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Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, yeah, I'm ghosting him because he's a liar.

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Speaker 3: A liar?

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Speaker 6: What is he lying about?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 9: I mean I thought the date was fun and cute,

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Speaker 9: but after the date, I just realized that I can't

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Speaker 5: He says.

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Speaker 7: Okay, hold up, what can't you What can't you trust

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Speaker 7: what I said? What if I say that was a lie?

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Speaker 3: That's Zach.

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Speaker 2: He's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk

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Speaker 4: And oh, my god, hi liar because.

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Speaker 9: An escape room and he basically we told this whole

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Speaker 5: Be able to come up with a lie.

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Speaker 9: That that quick is just disturbing to me, Like that's like,

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Speaker 9: that's not okay.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the fact that he came up with

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I can't put it past them, and that fast,

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Speaker 3: As a good liar myself, she probably has a point here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for the self awareness, bra.

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Speaker 9: And for something so small as to like get free

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Speaker 9: clues like that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hold up, I.

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Speaker 7: Got the clues right, We needed to get out of

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Speaker 7: the escape room, right, Like, I'm competitive, that's not I

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Speaker 4: I didn't lie to them and tell them like something,

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Speaker 4: I don't understand that I'm not lying.

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Speaker 5: I'm confused. Okay, but that's what a liar would say.

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Speaker 7: Well, we got out of the escape room, didn't we, Like,

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but yeah, but at what costs? You

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Speaker 7: What I don't what do you consider a lie? Like,

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Speaker 7: if I'm a liar, then you're a liar because you.

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Speaker 4: Have brown hair?

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Speaker 5: What is that supposed to mean?

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Speaker 4: Because on your dating profile you have blonde hair, So

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's not even close to the same thing, But

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Speaker 9: that's however you want to feel.

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Speaker 5: It's fine.

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Speaker 4: Whatever liar hold each other names all day doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: it's real.

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Speaker 2: Lilo, would you like to go on another date? Was

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Speaker 2: that will pay for it?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so. I just don't really think I

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Speaker 9: can trust him to be honest?

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Speaker 4: But was that a lie? So you really mean you

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Speaker 4: do you want to go on a day?

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Speaker 9: Look, I'm sorry you're clearly triggered, but like you did lie,

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Speaker 9: you lied, and you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: I want to know what you're referring to. Is what

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Speaker 4: I think you're talking about. That is not lying. Just

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Speaker 4: by omitting the truth is not a lie.

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Speaker 5: Like it's just omitting the truth is a lie. Keeping

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Speaker 5: the truth from someone got a lie? That is how

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Speaker 5: a lie is defined.

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Speaker 7: So I'm just supposed to say everything that I know

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Speaker 7: in the entire world, every person that I know, to

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Speaker 7: make sure that I'm not lying by not saying everything

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Speaker 7: in the world just because I happen to know a

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Speaker 7: lot about that last name, Like I could be that

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Speaker 7: guy's uncle.

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Speaker 4: Like who's to say you don't know, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: All right, well, Zach, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: No. Second, that could be the truth, like like ancestors,

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Speaker 7: dot common and whatnot, Like that could be the truth.

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Speaker 4: You don't know. I'm thinking you don't know either, So

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Speaker 4: it's a lie that you know everything.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but then she said, like it was supposed to

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Speaker 5: be no liar, lying, lying around your liar.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: Juble's first date follow up