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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's Bobby and right now I'm recording this

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Speaker 1: from my iPhone. I am in Montana doing a pretty

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Speaker 1: cool thing for the new TV show. But with Kaylee

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Speaker 1: Hammock's new record coming out, and you know, we have

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Speaker 1: all these great interviews with all these singers and songwriters.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kaylee was one of the last ones, maybe

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Speaker 1: really loved it. I'm a big fan of her. I

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Speaker 1: hope you check out her her new record that's out.

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Speaker 1: We talked about in the last episode, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: So here you go so much. So I'm in Montana

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Speaker 1: and I thought I would record this and get this

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Speaker 1: up for you. So check out a new record. But

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Speaker 1: here it is Kaylee Hammock. It's about an hour with

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Speaker 1: her and hope you get to know her. Hope you

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Speaker 1: like her. Thanks, guys, I wanted the episode with Kaylee Hammock.

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Speaker 1: You're good. Good. We spent all day yesterday together, so

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Speaker 1: I know you'd find the house. Yeah, I knew where

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Speaker 1: it was. Um, we've we've just seen the front. We

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Speaker 1: we did the video or Blanco brownly get up, michaelill

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Speaker 1: play me a little bit that I want so I know.

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Speaker 1: So I reached out to you early and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's do this on camera because it's gonna be huge.

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Speaker 1: It's already kind of starting to be a thing. And

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Speaker 1: We have the same management, the same team, and so

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Speaker 1: we had a couple of cameras out here and Blanco

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Speaker 1: edit of it back. It's so funny I got because

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Speaker 1: I did Dancing with the Stars, I got a little

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Speaker 1: PTSD yesterday. I was like, oh my goodness, I'm dancing again.

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Speaker 1: But you kind of know what you're doing. Well, I okay,

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Speaker 1: so you probably I feel like you probably know this,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I was extremely intimidated because I found out

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Speaker 1: I don't dance if he asked me. Because wanted someone

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Speaker 1: went to the Gold's Jim yesterday, UM or day before,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I UM. I asked him if I could

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Speaker 1: use one of the aerobic rooms. So I got in

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Speaker 1: there with my sneaks, stood in front of that mirror,

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Speaker 1: Only like I was kind of raised to be a debutante,

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Speaker 1: so we had to learn how to foxtrot and walt

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Speaker 1: some things. And I always loved it. All I wanted

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Speaker 1: I thought it was so eloquent. Um are not eloquent, elegant.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had enough coffee yet, but yeah, I always

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Speaker 1: You wake up normally. I wake up about seven or

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Speaker 1: eight every day. UM, whether I want to or not,

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Speaker 1: after this I had to Detroit to play the UM

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Speaker 1: one of the ho Down festivals tomorrow. H I was.

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Speaker 1: I don't host it anymore, but I program a show

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Speaker 1: and national show on the weekend that's all female artists,

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Speaker 1: and I put in your song just Friends, and I

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Speaker 1: knew the song already, just from from your music, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Mike and people with the whole track for a second, um,

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Speaker 1: Then it starts to play and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: trained a second, which is the single, right, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it sounds like an all traditional country song. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: my thought was in my head, I'm on the Porter

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Speaker 1: it's so good. Someone the other day was like, UM,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, am I? Because I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you see that as being a rebel.

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Speaker 1: Everybody check that out, check out just just for friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love this song. I have it on even my

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you stage songs the songs that

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Speaker 1: I just play back whatever. But it's on one of

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Speaker 1: I love this song. Here here we go. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just fun to rock out on. Yeah, you play

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Speaker 1: play with your ding ding ding ding? That's it? Actually

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Speaker 1: I played just friends together. Yeah, in a broken down

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Speaker 1: Whenever we were talking last, you had mentioned to me,

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Speaker 1: hillbilly comes out. I'll tell you what that means on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Oh yeah, Well then I felt I felt

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Speaker 1: but also I like to I like to dictate myself.

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Speaker 1: Tarba Streisand yeah, we call her Tarbs for short because

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Speaker 1: Lambs probably took his longs minded because he was trying.

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Speaker 1: So I'm from Laville, Georgia. It's a very small town.

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Speaker 1: was just like, Hi, Hi, Um, I'm Kayleie Hannock, I'm

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Speaker 1: So just give me the CD. And a few weeks later,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know this girl. This girl hooked me

425
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Speaker 1: up and I got two of them. So when the

426
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Speaker 1: first one got caught, I had a purse strolling out

427
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: of my car at like sev eighteen and the of

428
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: course the police officers in my hometown found it and

429
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: they were like, so, ma'am, we found a lot of

430
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 1: your stuff. Um, actually a lot of it made it.

431
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: But um, there's two I d s. And I was like, ok,

432
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: I can explain, I can explain. Oh yeah, that was

433
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: That was a weird conversation. But um, in the back

434
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: of my head, I was like, thank god they gave

435
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: me two when I ordered these. Um anyways, okay, sorry,

436
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: back to Nashville, staying in my car, Um, my dad

437
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: came up. We went to Hockey Talk Central and which

438
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: is a big Broadway bar for those it's like a

439
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: big talk bar in the middle of like tourist Nashville. Yeah,

440
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: it's three floors. It's one of the louder ones. And um, yeah.

441
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: So I went up to the main stage and I

442
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: asked the bass player if I could sing, and um,

443
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: he said forty dollars to sing with the band. Wait,

444
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: oh really yeah? Because the thing is people all the

445
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: time and they're like, I can sing, it's so good,

446
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: Like if you just give me migraphone. You know, when

447
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 1: you're just like, um, I you know, because you're like,

448
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: you're going to run off the other people if I

449
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: let you up. But for forty dollars, I'll let you

450
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: up and you can sing Britney Spears for three minutes.

451
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,239
Speaker 1: Come on. You know. It was another way for us

452
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: to make money because we get um tips there. We

453
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: don't usually get a very big basse pay. Bass pay

454
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: was like the bar would give you twenty five dollars

455
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 1: for a four hour set and the rest is tips.

456
00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: So um. Anyways, when he says that to me, I

457
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: automatically was just like what And he's like, hiss, forty dollars,

458
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: don't you want to do it? And I turned back

459
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: around and I was like, look, I I get paid

460
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: to sing. I don't pay to sing anymore. Thanks, And

461
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: I just turned around and walked off. And of course

462
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: as I turned around, I bumped into this older man

463
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: with a teenage mutant into turtle shirt on, a flannel

464
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: shirt over that, a big white beard and beanie on,

465
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, where do you get paid to sing?

466
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: And it was Greg Humphrey. Um. He was the bar

467
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: or the band manager down there for years. He used

468
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: to play with Willie and Charlie Pritt and all of

469
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: them at the Palmino over in um l A. And anyways,

470
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: he's just a wonderful bass player. He was a wonderful

471
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: human being. And he was like, okay, like where do

472
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: you play? And I told him and he turned around

473
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: and he said a jeb like, Jeff, don't be a

474
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: beep hole. I don't know if we can cuss it, Jeff,

475
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: don't be an asshole, Like let the girl sing? And

476
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: I did, and I brought my harmonica with me like

477
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: I was ready. You know, um, I think I started

478
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: with Gunpowder Lead and then I did Copperhead Road and

479
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: I did the dance to it as well. Yeah, well,

480
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: I was like, well what can get people dancing? That's

481
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: what it is is. Commercial music is whatever it takes

482
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: for someone to take money out of their wallet and

483
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: put it in that bucket in my hand. So I

484
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: was like, okay, like I'll just give you that and

485
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: then did like Mary Jane, our last dance of Mary

486
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Jane and play the harmonic on it, and um, they're like,

487
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: holy crap. Well after that, I kept looking out there

488
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: and Greg kept spinning his finger and that's like one more,

489
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: one more, one more. Got to about seven songs and

490
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: then Um came down and he's like, you want a job,

491
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, sir, and he's like, well,

492
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: be here tomorrow. So I did it the next day.

493
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: He made me run the tip jug and it was

494
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: it was like a scene out of a movie Bobby.

495
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: It was. He got the tip jug from It was

496
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever had to ask someone for money,

497
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, and asked them, how much do you think

498
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: my talent is worthy? Put it in this bucket and

499
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, he looked down in the bucket and

500
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: he looked at me, and they looked down on the

501
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: bucket again and shook it some and he said he

502
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: seemed good and you talk slow people like that, you

503
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: still need a job. And I was like yes her,

504
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: and um, he's like all right, be back at eleven.

505
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: And I was like Humphrey, Actually, I'm I'm under age,

506
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: like I'm nineteen. Do you think I can get in?

507
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: And he goes, if you come in with me once,

508
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: they'll never ask for your idea again. And I was

509
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: like okay, and they didn't like I. I went back

510
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: and forth, and when I finally turned twenty one and

511
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: they thought I was turning twenty five, that was when

512
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: I finally told everyone so. And that kind of became

513
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: your place for a bit. Yeah, it was. Um. It

514
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: was where the creators and the singers and the musicians

515
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,600
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516
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,119
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517
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518
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Speaker 1: drinking coffee while I while I well, yeah, I'm giving

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Speaker 1: you a second. Hear that, have some coffee while I

552
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Speaker 1: tell a slow story. I'll go down the Broadway sometimes

553
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: and you see all the people that are playing, and

554
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,280
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555
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,159
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556
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557
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Speaker 1: major stage. You go, look, this is this is kind

558
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: of the path that I took. And I always come in.

559
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: It's always cool to see because there are a couple

560
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: of a couple of Christiansen's one of them too. I

561
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: know who. I saw him for the first time down there. Yeah,

562
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: and so did you ever see that? I always wonder

563
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: did you ever? We ever playing? And like an artist

564
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: would come in or somebody the kind of famous would

565
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: come in and you would go, oh manor or a

566
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: record guy and they weren't really looking. They just happened

567
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: to be in that bar. Oh man. There. Every now

568
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: and then there'd be someone like a publisher or something

569
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: that I knew, and I was like, oh my god,

570
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: my god, don't judge me, like I can. I can

571
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: write real sincere songs. All right, here's redneck woman way.

572
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: So you were like, oh, don't judge me, instead of like, oh,

573
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I have a time a second to shine in front

574
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: of these people. Yeah, because the whole time, what I was,

575
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: the reason I thought they would judge me was I

576
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: wanted to be a songwriter. You know. It wasn't really

577
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: about being the artist. It was about I want to

578
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: tell this story. And what I realized after signing it

579
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: Universal Publishing was a lot of my songs and things

580
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I say no one wants to say at that way,

581
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: you know. Um, so I knew that I had to

582
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: be the artist to put it out just to get

583
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: those stories where I wanted them, and that was in

584
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: the public. So I don't know, I just I would

585
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: have rather been at a right around and just been

586
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: me and a guitar and go, okay, let me take

587
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: you down a memory lane, you know, instead of like,

588
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: here's one more song about drinking. He and Yeah, your

589
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: accents are funny too. She has a different accent for

590
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: every story. I sometimes sometimes she's a leprechn and you

591
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: know I've been wondering when you pick it up. Yeah,

592
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: that's kind. I'm assuming that's irish. I don't really. Yeah,

593
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: it's really bad once you pointed out what's your living

594
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: situation turned into? Because you're for a bit you're sleeping

595
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: a target. But then you get a job and you're

596
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: actually able to make money. Do you find an apartment? Yep?

597
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: I found a little um sublet apartment that I leased.

598
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: It was a basement apartment in Bellevue, and I killed

599
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: every single house plant I ever bought because there wasn't

600
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: enough sunlight base. Yes, but the thing is, actually, looking

601
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: back on it now, if there was one thing I

602
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: could say to that girl, like just enjoy it, because

603
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you the last time I just had

604
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: a day off to myself with a good friend there

605
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: and absolutely nothing to do. Because there is a sense

606
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: of freedom and this pureness of happiness there that you

607
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: can find in that kind of dark basement apartment if

608
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: you have a good friend with you. And um, I

609
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: feel like now life is just so busy that you

610
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: don't get time to really overthink, You don't get time

611
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: to wonder anymore. You know it's just go, go go.

612
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: I bet you're like that. Um, but yeah, there's something

613
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: about that little basement apartment. Though it killed all my

614
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: house plants, they had good moments. You know. We were poor,

615
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: so we'd go to Sonic Wednesdays. There's fifty cent corn dogs. Uh.

616
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: We'd spend our nights off at McKay's, the used book store,

617
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: and if I was lonely, I would just go up

618
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: there on a Friday night. I went almost every single

619
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: Friday night, and I would find a book that I

620
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: wanted to read, and then I just sit down in

621
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 1: aisle and watch people and like, you can't imagine how

622
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: many people come to a used bookstore on a Friday night,

623
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: and I, Um, i'd start writing songs about them or

624
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: just basking in the company of knowing the world still

625
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: spinning around me. Though I feel like I'm you know,

626
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: isolated in that basement apartment. But then I'd go to

627
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: work and I'd see a plethora of people and personalities

628
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: and then I'd go hide away in my little basement

629
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: dungeon apartment and write songs about it. It's funny you

630
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: mentioned because I think back to it when I was

631
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: in college living in this really rotten apartment, and how

632
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: much fun that I had because the whole world was

633
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: still kind of in front of me. When the whole

634
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: world is still out there, even though you're super broke,

635
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: you go eventually, I'm going to figure this out, and

636
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: there's a sense of yeah, it's a struggle now, but

637
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: I have so much space, have so much it's it's

638
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: such an empty canvas for me to create over the

639
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: years that it is fun. But I struggle with that

640
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: if I could just tell that person to just have

641
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: fun because I was having trouble getting lunch meat, it's

642
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: hard to have fun whenever you can't really get bologny

643
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and cheese, and you just gotta get bologny. So it's

644
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: kind of it's a weird mix. It's a weird mix

645
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: of struggle. But when I look back, it was super

646
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: pure like that. That the the amount of man, I'm

647
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: eventually going to figure this out that was inside of

648
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: me was I was full of it and not like

649
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm full of crap now. But I just knew it

650
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: was gonna I know how it's gonna work out. But

651
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: if I didn't think it's gonna work out, I wouldn't

652
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: stay doing it. Like if I ever thought I'm not

653
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna do it, I would have just I would have

654
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: done something else. And I'm assuming that's the same with you.

655
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: As much of a struggle as it was, you had

656
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: to believe in yourself so much because there's an ego

657
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: involved in what we do. Any time you create something

658
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: and you go I think what I'm doing is good

659
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: enough that people will either pay for it or they'll

660
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: sit to it and listen to an advertisement because I'm

661
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: worth it. On the other side of it, there is

662
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: an ego, sometimes healthy, sometimes not. And with that being said,

663
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: like you had to be in this basement going will

664
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: not just get my shot, or when I take these

665
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: couple more steps, like people are gonna love what I

666
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: have to say. I mean that was the thing, right, Yeah,

667
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I had, um I've realized for me, like I get

668
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: intense envy and I used to think, Um, I do

669
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: you know what your angiogram is? Eight? Defiant one and

670
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: the broken eight and then a one whatever the second

671
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: one is. Yeah, wow, Okay, I was thinking for some reason,

672
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking three with a four wing. But I

673
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I've taken that test. Listen, I'm not

674
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: a big belief. Sure, it's okay, you don't have to believe.

675
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't not believe. I won't start talking about horsecode.

676
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: You can, you can't. I don't not believe. I just

677
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: don't believe. I get it. Meaning if you believe, and

678
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: it's awesome for you, and I'm not gonna hate on

679
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: you for it, because there's no way I can prove

680
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: you wrong. Well, what I've I didn't really believe it

681
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: until I read this book called Sacred Indiogram and it

682
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: goes in depth, like with the numbers, and all it

683
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: did was it showed a little clarity for me and

684
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: I got something out of it. But um, it talked

685
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: about how the four the individualist my number. It said

686
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: that my weakness was envy, and I was like, no,

687
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't really like I don't get envious of I'm

688
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: single as they come, but I don't get envious of relationships.

689
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I I'm not the skinny tan beauty you know. I

690
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: was like, but I don't get envious of that. Like

691
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: there's moments and I was like, I don't get envious

692
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: of other people in their situations. But then I went

693
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: to an Eric Church concert and I was sick the

694
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: entire time, just sick to my stomach watching someone else

695
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: do what I wanted to do so badly, and I

696
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: wasn't able to so um for years. I am finally

697
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: to the point now that I can watch music documentaries.

698
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: So now it's like Holai watch um because I couldn't

699
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: for years watch that and listen to artists and musicians

700
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: and writers talk about how they crafted their skill and

701
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: stuff because I felt so unworthy of even knowing anything

702
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: about it, and I felt so small, and I was

703
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: envious of they're really doing it, you know, they're getting

704
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: to create something put it out into the world. And uh,

705
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: now I can finally go to a concert and enjoy

706
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: myself because I get to be on a stage and

707
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: I have that. I literally have that little soapbox too,

708
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 1: put my word out on and um. For a while, though, yeah,

709
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: it was very envious of anyone living their dream because

710
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: I was dark. I didn't have anything to kind of

711
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: fill that void. I was still trying to figure out

712
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: who I was, and I had to go through that.

713
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: It's funny how we look at other people and they

714
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: give us different inspirations and by the people and I

715
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: individual people give us different feelings. But for you mentioned envy.

716
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: For me, it's all it's competition. Like I see people

717
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, well they had it easier than

718
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: I did, and I'm about to be better than they are.

719
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: And and I think a lot a lot of it's

720
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: how I grew up and I was always the small,

721
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: poor kid who got picked on. So every everything in

722
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: life with a competition. To me, I had to prove

723
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: myself all this that you have to prove yourself and

724
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: unhealthily to like, you know, I get it, I totally

725
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: get it. I feel a little snippets of that. I'm

726
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: not proud of it. So that's not where you going this.

727
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I think a lot of how we

728
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: were wired ends up being on how we treat ourselves

729
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: and treat others, you know, later in life. And I

730
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: wonder where that comes from with you where you where

731
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: you said the people and you're just still because for

732
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: me it's not healthy sometimes where I'm just like, oh, okay,

733
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: you want to do you think you're good, I'm about

734
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: to be the best radio person in the history of

735
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: the world, and give me a minute. And never I'm

736
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: jealous where you are. But it's about to be I'm

737
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: about to beat you at where are you? I couldn't.

738
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. For the first ten years of my

739
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: career and I started on I seventeen, every show I

740
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: was up against, I hated them, didn't you meet them?

741
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Hated their guts. I didn't if the Pope was on

742
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: one of one point three Pope FM starr the Pope,

743
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I hate him, it's going to be

744
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: dope owner. Now it's different. Now I have a platform

745
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: where there really isn't anyone who is based on who

746
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a contemporary So I'm not really competing

747
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: with people now, and I'm competing with YouTube. I'm competing

748
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: with just the world. You're just trying to get anybody's attention.

749
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: It's impossible, like anyone's attention anymore because there are so

750
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: many things. But for me, that's where mine comes from.

751
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: Where do you think yours comes from? I don't really know.

752
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: I think it's because as a kid. As a kid,

753
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: I had two older siblings that we had already kind

754
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: of moved on and went to high school or college

755
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: by the time I came about my mom and went

756
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: back to school, and my dad just worked really hard

757
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: so I had a lot of time to myself. UM.

758
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I was alone a lot. I felt like, UM, but

759
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: I feel like that's exactly what made me me and

760
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: it's where my imagination came from. You know. I had

761
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: to be alone. I had to be lonely and board

762
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: for my brain to create what it needed to create, UM,

763
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: so that I can create what I create now. But

764
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: there was moments of like I just remember, like watching

765
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: like Stevie Nicks. There'd be a rerun of her and

766
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: some concert with Fleetwood Mac and I'd just be like, God,

767
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: I just want that, I just want that. I would

768
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: watch um one of the first things I ever bought.

769
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: Did you ever buy anything from the TV in your life?

770
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Like that? You call in and it's like three orders

771
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: of five shipping and handling. That's a funny impression, Amy,

772
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: my friend my coast did all the time. I never

773
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: buy I take that back. I bought the ab shocker once.

774
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: It was like a torture, like you put it on.

775
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Apparently it shocked the six back. I gotta tell you,

776
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: the only thing I had a little burn marks on.

777
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: He turned it out. I was gonna say no and

778
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: beat Mr Cool guy. Don't ever be cool. I wasn't.

779
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: I really was just feeling like I hadn't and I

780
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: was like, no, of course, why I would have buy

781
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm smart. Then I go, you

782
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: know what, I bought the absolute lamest thing you could buy.

783
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: I had it too, No shame here? What else would

784
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: you buy? Mine? Was? I think I was like twelve

785
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: years old, and um, it was this discollection. It was

786
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: like I still have the tin and everything, but it

787
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: was the golden classics of country music. Yes, And that

788
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: was literally all I wanted was to be in that

789
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: little title track of Like And I didn't want to

790
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: be just in the title track that's going down. I

791
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: want to be the one that's highlighted. And then they're

792
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna have the karaoke words with a little bouncing ball

793
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a like a picture of me

794
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: on Porter Wagner's show. That was what I wanted. Um.

795
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: I would just sit there and listen to that over

796
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: and over and over again and be like a ten

797
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: minute INFO commercial and be like, Mom, getta please, get

798
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: it please, and she's like, we don't buy things off

799
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: the TV. I'm like And finally, after I complained enough

800
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: and begged enough. My dad was like, just buy the

801
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: freaking CD set, just do it, And we did, and

802
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: I just wore it out. Old Country Classic Country was like,

803
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: oh I listened to when I was a kid. It

804
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: felt like but yeah, I just I wanted that. I

805
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: wanted to be laut Alin. I wanted to beat Patsy Klan.

806
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: What were your parents musically? My mom she introduced me

807
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: to Jim Crochy and by the way, that like bad

808
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: badly Roy Brown, like like Jim like seven Jim Hill

809
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: in places called seventies soul country almost is what Jim

810
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Croch for. People don't know. Jim Croach is um like

811
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: you could probably play a little little Jim Crowch you

812
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: can keep probably. I just want to make sure that

813
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: people kind of fall because I love Jim Croach Message

814
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: of Bottle or this is actually this is one of

815
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: my two all time favorite songs. Magical is old and

816
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: he was able to tell a story with just a

817
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: guitar in his choice simming where my brastl ex friend

818
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: right right here. Gosh, she said, you new women sometimes

819
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: like just I just I feel like he was one

820
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: of those in depth lyrics this that you'd listen over

821
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: and over, and then you'd pick up some little way

822
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: that he'd say something and you're like, that's what he

823
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: meant by it. He was one of those that I

824
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: could die then too, and listen to over and over

825
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: and over again and get something just a little different

826
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: or a little humor, let some tongue in cheek in there. Um,

827
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: I discovered something so nuanced. You'd always hear a little

828
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: other because I also listen to a lot of Jim.

829
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: My mom is a big Jim Crowchy fan, and she

830
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: was the funny I wrote on my first book. Whenever

831
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: my mom died, I was at her funeral. I was

832
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: speaking at her funeral, and I was struggling with talking,

833
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: and I had to talk to my mom's funeral and

834
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: she died in her forties and so but I remember,

835
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: as she would as I was talking, and I was

836
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: crying my face off. Somebody's cell phone rings and it's

837
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: a freaking Jim Crowchy ring tone. That was her smill

838
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: in it. I don't know what it was, but that's

839
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: what I said. So, yeah, and this came by, and

840
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: so I think about this bad, bad role around the

841
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: bat ist fan in the whole damn town. Yeah, I love.

842
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: He was one of those like who else can write

843
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: about a fight? A bar fight? And it's three minutes

844
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: of like this in depth story where I'm just sitting

845
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: there like, okay, well what happened to him? You know,

846
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Like there's one line that he says, uh, he came

847
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: up from the ground looking like a jigsaw puzzle with

848
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces gone, And I'm like, oh my gosh.

849
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Like his way of describing things was beautiful. My mom

850
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: loved James Taylor. Um. She loves anything like the coffee

851
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: House Channel. Now, that's kind of her vibe. She loves

852
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: songwriters and storytellers. It's kind of my vibe too. If

853
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: I have to pick a vibe, that's probably my vibe too.

854
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: It's just mellow and nice, easy going. I like sad songs.

855
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess it's probably I really like sad. Do you

856
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: feel like to bring yourself to Catharsis or what do

857
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: you get out of it? You know, I don't feel

858
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: happiness often, but I can feel sadness. You like the

859
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: feeling of it? Then I like to feel anything, dude,

860
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I just like to feel something because

861
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: I struggle with with that and I don't do well

862
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: with happiness because I feel like it's always going to

863
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: go away. It's so fleeting that it's gone, so I

864
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: don't feel I don't feel there's a vulnerability and feeling

865
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: happy that I don't do well with sadness. Okay, it's

866
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: like a warm blanket. I totally get it. I seem

867
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: to kind of be drawn towards the melancholy um side

868
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: of life. I don't know why, but that's where I

869
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: felt good. And I realized the older I got that

870
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: I either want to be up or I want to

871
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: be down. I don't hate the middle. You know. Um,

872
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: there's actually a girl I went to high school with

873
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: that Um. She was one of those people that every

874
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: single day she felt the exact same like whether she

875
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: was happy, whether she was sad, whether her boyfriend broke up,

876
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: whether she was the exact same person every single day.

877
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: And I am the opposite. I'm normally like a little

878
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: chipmunk on crack most days, and then when I'm sad,

879
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: it's like you may not be able to get me

880
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: out of the house, and it's like a few days

881
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: a year that it's like that bad, and I just

882
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: have to respect myself and let myself kind of just

883
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: dive into my pity party, you know, and I'm fine

884
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: the next day normally, And uh, what I kind of

885
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: realized because I always wondered, like, how is Lindsay so happy?

886
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: Why was she so happy? Like just always so mellow,

887
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, And I was almost envious of that because

888
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't feel that just a normal like it was

889
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: either I was super super happy or was really really sad.

890
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of creative people are

891
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: this way. But um, there was a see saw in

892
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: our backyard that finally I remember one day sitting out

893
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: in the backyard and looking at it, and I realized

894
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of what it was. It was like if if

895
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: we were standing on that seesaw, Lindsey was somewhere in

896
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: the middle, so the up and down wasn't really much,

897
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: and I am some little overweight ten year old flinging

898
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: her body on the farthest reaches of it, you know.

899
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: So I was either like just rocketed into the sky

900
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: emotionally or I was flat on my button the dirt.

901
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: And um, I think the minute I kind of learned

902
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: how to embrace that and just I don't know, be

903
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: okay with that, be okay with crying and being statically

904
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: happy to that's what you are. And I know, and

905
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work on myself, and I said,

906
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I far fewer times am I sitting in

907
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: my room listening to If I Can Only Fly from

908
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Merle Haggard. I do still some a r M. Everybody

909
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: hurts like those are the oh that one's such a

910
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: good lay down and cross song at like you're in

911
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: a movie. It's far fewer, but I know that that's

912
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: where I go. And I was talking to a friend

913
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: pretty recently and she's a comedian, and she was she's

914
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: editing her special, She's with She's with the other she

915
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: just did a Netflix special and she was like, I

916
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to break down four or five times.

917
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hate myself as I'm breaking down every single time.

918
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, if you know that you're gonna

919
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: break down four or five times, why don't you give

920
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: yourself four or five pup wants to break down and

921
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: know that as you're doing it each time, this is you,

922
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: and you're okay with you, and this is the expectation

923
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: you have of yourself. Now, if there's nine times there's

924
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: there's something that's a bit wrong and you kind of

925
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: need to address that. But if you can actually understand

926
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: how you react the situations, you can prepare better. And

927
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: you know, I with me, I have to do that

928
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: a lot, and I've gotten to be a bit happier.

929
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of because you're just you're loving on yourself

930
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: more by allowing yourself to be you. I do. I

931
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: finally understand what loving yourself means for the first time too,

932
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: because I if I used to think people say that,

933
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: but like when dudes I kinda learn to love man

934
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: like you're just trying to break up with me. I

935
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: know what this means now. What it means to me

936
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: is sometimes if you love, if there someone in your

937
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: life that you love like you're close to them as

938
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: a friend or even romantic or family member, that if

939
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: you love them, you have to sometimes make hard decisions

940
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: for them, even if it's not if it's not fun,

941
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: but you have for your self. Sometimes to like to

942
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: love yourself means to make good decisions for yourself, even

943
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: if it's like I love to eat lots of candy

944
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: and sweets and desserts, and but that's not Sometimes I

945
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: have to love myself enough to go yo chill or

946
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: to get enough sleep, because I will go days just

947
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: because with my schedule, I will go days. I don't

948
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: know how when you sleep, because I struggle to get

949
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: enough sleep. And I'm doing like a fifth of what

950
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: you do and you're not doing a fifth of what

951
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: I do. And that's that's nice of you to say.

952
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: We're all working hard. But I have to make I

953
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: don't have like fifteen shows. I have to go appure

954
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: all that job. I don't you know, I don't get

955
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: to let such a good anything. You know that. I

956
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: but but I do feel like me loving myself. It's

957
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: going all right. You know, you want to keep writing

958
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: tonight for for this next book or whatever, but you

959
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: have to actually love and respect yourself enough to get

960
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: some sleep. And I finally started to understand what and

961
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: I do I so I do love myself a little

962
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: bit more now. I think it's healthier for me. It's

963
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: interesting that you bring that up and that you say

964
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: that are you doing that with you? Like are you? Oh? Yeah?

965
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: Sleep is something I feel like it's a vocal us.

966
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: You've got to get eight or not hours, like just

967
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: for my voice to be where I want it to

968
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: be because I hate A big pet peeve of mine

969
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: is I don't like half passing when someone gets on

970
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: stage and like, oh, I gotta pull off of this note.

971
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do that, but I

972
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: know that we have to play so much. Sometimes you

973
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: have to and you have to work off two hours

974
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: of sleep, you know. But I try to just yeah,

975
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: keep myself in check, like keep my mental and physical

976
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: health in check, because I have to be sparkly a lot.

977
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: You know, you have to be sparkly a lot. The

978
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: most exhausting thing about what I do is what you

979
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: call be sparkly, is I gotta be on all the time.

980
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: It just it takes so much more energy, I think

981
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: than people know. And it's not that we don't enjoy it.

982
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: Like I love when I'm able to make connections and

983
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: I can go to bed knowing that I made someone

984
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: smile today, Like sometimes that is what I need. I

985
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: struggle with darkness in my life, and that is something

986
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: that I clean to, is to know that I have

987
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: helped someone or done good by someone. Um, even if

988
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: it's just someone singing along to one song, you know,

989
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: and smiling in the crowd, but it's it's really tiring.

990
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: I have become a nap master. I feel like I

991
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: can nap anywhere. If I have my bows, headphones on,

992
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: and I have my neck pillow in a little blanket,

993
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: I can just post up anywhere in the corner and

994
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: just knock out for twenty minutes. Not good for you,

995
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: because I can't and I need it. You know, you

996
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: talk about your term is sparklely, Um, what's a good

997
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: term well being on? Because I my thing is I'm

998
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: not an outgoing person, which is not that's not in me.

999
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: That being said, I'll go on stage a new stand

1000
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: up for an hour. I'll do Afy the our radio show.

1001
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: I'll go up and do comedy music, I'll do let

1002
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: I have jobs where I'm super on and then when

1003
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: i'm not, I'm so off that people will see me

1004
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: sometimes and if I'm not like they're like, oh what

1005
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: a dick. And so that being and and listen, my

1006
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: stepdad my mom remarried once I was thirteen fourteen. My

1007
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: stepdad worked at the mill. So I'm not comparing my

1008
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: job to his. But I'm saying, for what I do

1009
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: I have, I have to stay on all the time,

1010
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: because if I don't, I don't want people to think

1011
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: of down. I'm not a dick. But if I'm at

1012
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: the airport and I got my head down and I'm

1013
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: tired or I don't know, I'm not feeling well, I

1014
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: get on Instagram, come on, we listen to you every morning,

1015
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: and You're gonna be ad dick to us, and I'm like,

1016
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't even see you didn't say I know. It's

1017
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: one of those things. Now, i just put my headphones

1018
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: on and I'm just like, shoot, like I just kind

1019
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: of revert into myself like a little hermit. You're such

1020
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: a bold You're such a bold like physical presence though,

1021
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: like you with your big red hair, like you can't

1022
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: walk buy and people not go I know, which is amazing.

1023
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful when someone recognizes me, like it's

1024
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: a rare thing for me, Bobby. But the thing is,

1025
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: like I still sometimes like when I have no makeup on,

1026
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: I look, I'm either Kaylee Hammock or Raccoon with the

1027
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: dark circles underneath my eyes. And it's a five am fly,

1028
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, to Detroit or something, and I'm like, Okay,

1029
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: I can totally talk to you. Just please don't ask

1030
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: for a picture because I really don't want this one Instagram.

1031
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, boy, that is where where was

1032
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: I recently? Where people and I when you come up

1033
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: to me the only time I say, don't approach people

1034
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: if they're what they're eating, if they're eating, don't go

1035
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: to people and throw to kids. Otherwise we signed up.

1036
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: We love what we do, Like I wouldn't be able

1037
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: to have I want to do this podcast if warm

1038
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: people listening. But some people now will just walk up

1039
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: and I forget where I was at the airport? Here

1040
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: was it? What? They don't even ask me for a pictures.

1041
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: They just come up and just start snapping, and I'm like,

1042
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: at least let me see my own I know you're

1043
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: gonna post it. At least like take this sleep out

1044
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: of my eyes and let me smile. I'll take any

1045
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: picture you ever want. I think it's so funny when

1046
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: people people are so kind, you know, but like like

1047
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: someone will come up to and be like, you're so pretty.

1048
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, trust me, like right now with all my

1049
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: make go on and me smiling directly at the camera.

1050
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: But it's so funny when people go to take like

1051
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: a burst and it's me talking in between. I look

1052
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: like a cartoon character the way my face moves. I'm like,

1053
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I love so stupid. You do a bit look like

1054
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: a country Jessica rabbit. I was trying to figure and

1055
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: you haven't heard that before because your hair is so red?

1056
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Is now? Is the red all? Like? How red? Or

1057
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: do you make it? Oh? I love to make it

1058
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: real red. I like to go to the ziggy look.

1059
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: I I love David Bowie, so it kind of just

1060
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: gives me like, I don't know, it's kind of a

1061
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: little self confidence boots boost. I can't talk. Um, Maybe

1062
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: I've drank too much coffee now. My tongue is moving

1063
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: faster than my brain is. It's funny to hear you

1064
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: talk about a lot of these older artists because I

1065
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: was listening to a lot of classic rock when I

1066
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: was a kid, too, And I have a lot of

1067
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: um music that I loved was before when I was born, right,

1068
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: And you're you're bringing up all these artists too, and

1069
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: some Mi Coup was in recently. We were talking about

1070
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: old music. Yeah, because we talked. She talked about old

1071
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: artists and cocono ol, and I was like, preach girl preach.

1072
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: I think part of where we come from being the South,

1073
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: that there's there's so many classic rock radio stations and

1074
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: classic country stations that we grow up and that's just

1075
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: more of a part of us than in other parts

1076
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: of the United States. Even like I knew every CCR

1077
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: song that you could buy, Like I love Credence, I

1078
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: loved all these I loved Zeppelin, I loved David Bowie,

1079
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: I love Jim crow Chick. All this stuff was because

1080
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: of all the classic rock radio that was everywhere. They

1081
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: were like three classic rock stations in Lotle Rock and

1082
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Hot Springs and so. And it's funny whenever you guys,

1083
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: because you grew up in Texas and you grew up

1084
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: in Georgia, and I think that's a big part of

1085
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: why we have all these years and years of musical influence.

1086
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Also because where we grew up, we weren't the most

1087
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: technologically advanced either. It was burnt CDs passed down for

1088
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: men and yeah, and even pause play record cassettes you

1089
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: you would tape off the radio. Plase, guy, I don't

1090
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: want to DJ talk over the front of the song

1091
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: because then I gotta listen to that every time. I

1092
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: want to hear baby got back. You know that would happen. So, yeah,

1093
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: it's funny to hear you're talking. Let's do this, then

1094
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: let's do And this is not you're not married to this.

1095
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: But if you were going to have a mount Rushmore

1096
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: of your five favorite artists of all time, and I

1097
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: can go, I'll do it along with you, so it

1098
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: gives your time to think. So because I haven't done

1099
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: amount Rushmore either, but five favorite artists. And if you

1100
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: pick a band, that's fine. The lead singer of the

1101
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: band just goes up and represents the whole band. Okay,

1102
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: So this is a mount Rushmore for just me personally,

1103
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: or do I have to pick it for like just you?

1104
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: It's only you, your heart, your life, you okay, A

1105
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: the mount Rushmore of my heart, Bowie would be Washington. Okay,

1106
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to insert them for anybody. You can

1107
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: just pick five. What if I would, because I'm not

1108
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: gonna insert them because I'm just gonna put them up

1109
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: and he see. I feel like Tom Waits would probably

1110
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: be the Roosevelt, the little little tiny hit looking over

1111
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: looking over their shoulders. I love Tom Waits, Tom Waits,

1112
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with them. I would listen to Tom Waits

1113
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 1: and take that would be my nap artist because it's

1114
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: just Tom wait he just wait what record? Because some

1115
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: of them is like, like, it comes in really aggressive.

1116
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I can nap through that. It definitely

1117
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: wasn't the weights harder stuff. It was the weights. The

1118
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: more my Mike, you play some Tom Weights. No one's

1119
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: ever play like Lulla By or something, but I would.

1120
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: I would snap in college or clap hands or jockey

1121
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: full of bourbon. What's your favorite like Waits record? Look

1122
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: at you over here? No one, Tom Wait, no one.

1123
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: I loved so. My dad told me that I was

1124
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: thirty five when I was born and of aged progressively

1125
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: ever since. But it's like an odd Benjamin Button's Okay,

1126
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: so one at a time, your first one bowe wait,

1127
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: hold on one at the time. Okay, rules, Okay, I'm

1128
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: a rule breaker. Okay, we'll talk over this. This is

1129
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: nice to talk over. Hello everyone, and welcome to our

1130
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: central reading of our podcast. Welcome to in Are. Today

1131
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the organic b issue as a

1132
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: south central Alabama and Nora Roberts newest hit book. I

1133
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: don't know why, but that's what made me think of

1134
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: that boys. Okay, who'd you put on first? David? Boy David,

1135
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna put on John Mayor, go ahead, okay, yeah, alright,

1136
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: uh wait, um, I'll put on Garth Loretta. I'm gonna

1137
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: put on Ben Folds, Johnny Cash. It's tough. You've got

1138
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: a lot of influences here. I'm gonna put on pound

1139
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: for pound. I'm probably gonna put out Willie. We got

1140
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: one more, I know, I know. I thought about saying

1141
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: Frank Zappa would be funny, but I was like, actually,

1142
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: enjoy him. Ben Harper the last one. I didn't always

1143
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: have to steal Mack. He's from you. I love that song.

1144
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: That was one of Burnt Seatie my sister handed down

1145
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: to me. Um, okay, I think my last one gotta

1146
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: be Cake Wow good pick Like um almost almost did it,

1147
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: but I was like, no, I'm a bigger Cake fan.

1148
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: I think weird thin you would know, Kake. I love Cake.

1149
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: I want to watch it their musical interpretation of everything ever,

1150
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: which just which that's a tough one to say. Oh

1151
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: my god, no no, no, no, no, no. Go in

1152
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: the distance, the distance, Yeah, that's I used to run

1153
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: to the and it's starting. Yeah, there you go. And

1154
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: the Green Flash four definitely Muscle for Rain. So the

1155
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: reason I love these guys is their sound is just

1156
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: so unique. I mean, who else sounds like them? Yeah?

1157
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: Um yeah nobody. And I haven't heard this song ifever

1158
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: turned up? Wasn't this eagle? That was another one? And

1159
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: all color covers look the same color to do shape

1160
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: on the on the front of all the all the rights.

1161
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: Drive didn't turn it up. He's going in the distance,

1162
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: He's going for She's all. And then it was like

1163
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: the kind of sitting out was never there, Like that

1164
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: was their big poppet. Yeah, I need your arms around me.

1165
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: I need to fill your Also the bass riffs and

1166
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm a secret like bass lover. I got my little

1167
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: broncho basse at my house that I never play bass

1168
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: in front of people, but I loved to just sit

1169
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, just make up little riffs and then all

1170
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: I gotta do is get four bars of it, throw

1171
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: it on the logic and then the next ride I

1172
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: go into I'm like, okay, there's this, Like it's just fun.

1173
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: But if someone handed me a bass was like, go

1174
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: ahead and play it, I would just completely fall apart.

1175
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: It's one of those like that accent. I'd be like,

1176
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: where are you from? I don't know you a Turkey?

1177
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,479
Speaker 1: Are you from that accident? And what's in this bass?

1178
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know why my voice does the

1179
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: things it does. They're coming on this, I oh, man,

1180
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: I just that's something. Actually, you know what. This may

1181
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: not work, but this is a big dream of mine.

1182
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: One day, whenever I have a headlining tour, I want

1183
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: to bring bands. I don't care what I gotta pay them.

1184
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: That's not it's fun to say right now, but let

1185
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: me tell you. I know, I know, I know, but

1186
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: I know how much opening acts get. I'm like, they

1187
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: would never do it, and I would pay them some

1188
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: thing just to have a big show, like bring I

1189
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: want Cake to play with me. I want ever Clear

1190
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: to play with me. I want Weezer to play with me.

1191
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: And if they would be willing to do it. Talking

1192
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: about my favorite bands on purpose? Did you study Bobby's

1193
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: favorite music? No? I didn't study you, um, but yeah no.

1194
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: I just I want them to play with me because

1195
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: they kind of raised me, you know, And I'm like,

1196
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: how cool would it be to go These are the

1197
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: people that make me who I am, Please enjoy them,

1198
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: thank you whenever. It was like three weeks ago, Oh,

1199
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good one because I can

1200
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: actually turn it into a story about you. Um. About

1201
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, I go to City Winery because Art

1202
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Alexis of ever Clear was playing, and he was playing

1203
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: with the leads lead singer of Eve six and the

1204
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: lead singer of Fountains of Wayne and the lead singer

1205
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: and Marcy Playground. What was this four No, there was

1206
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: their tour. It was these four lead singers and they

1207
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: would each go up and play and Art Alexis because

1208
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: I was a big ever Clear fan, and they eached

1209
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: the thirty minutes twenty to thirty minutes and Art Alexis

1210
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: goes on and I've seen him with with this band

1211
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: ever Club before a few times and it wasn't that

1212
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: great because he was trying to sing over the band.

1213
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: It was fantastic when he's by himself because he could act.

1214
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: It is because he can sing quieter. And my favorite

1215
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: every clip song is Strawberry. And I was like, oh,

1216
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna if he's gonna play

1217
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Strawberry because it wasn't one of the bigger hits. And

1218
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: he goes on and he freaking play Strawberry and I

1219
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: was like, well, this is fantastic. And he's telling his

1220
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: stories like a songwriter around but with these big um

1221
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: nineties alternative guys. And he was like in artless he

1222
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: has m s. I had no idea. I didn't know

1223
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: that either, and he's he maybe sixty years old now

1224
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: or close to it. But that was the here's my

1225
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: the story here, and you can play a strawberry from

1226
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: every clar Mike do if you have it over there.

1227
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: It was the same stage that I first saw you play.

1228
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: It's City Winery. Because I was only told your manager,

1229
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: who I just love so much, Mary Hilliard, if you're

1230
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: listening to this, you probably are I just the lover.

1231
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: She's probably listening to make sure I don't talk about

1232
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: like anything bad. Listen. I just, I just, and I trust.

1233
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: She's one of the few people that I will if

1234
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: she says, hey, this, because sometimes it will be people

1235
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: not even she's not involved in it. Hey, this person

1236
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: is good, listen to them. And I only have a

1237
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: couple people in my life at all trust and good.

1238
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: And she was like, I got this girl. She was

1239
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: like she's real good. And this is before you had

1240
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: anything anything out its way, before you had anything out

1241
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: or before you were starting to be whispered about. She

1242
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: was like, man, she's gonna be so good, like she's

1243
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: already good. And I was like, Okay, I believe you.

1244
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: And when there's an appropriate time, I'm gonna go watch

1245
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: you had nothing out? And I go to the Girls

1246
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: of Nashville show because I'm friends with Caitlin and Heather Morgan. Yeah,

1247
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: and so um, I think some Caitlin lyrics where she

1248
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: wrote and didn't you have a thing. So I'm just

1249
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: big fans of them. And you were playing too, and

1250
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: I had forgotten and I was sitting with Mary Hilliard

1251
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: and I forgot initially up ongoing and think telling Heather

1252
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna come that you were playing. And I

1253
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, let's just see what this girl about.

1254
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: Come on, here she is and you went up and

1255
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: you crushed it. Yeah, oh god, I didn't know you

1256
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: want there. I don't because I sing my pop stuff,

1257
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: but I never played. I don't announce that here coming,

1258
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: So they don't. They just go and try to chill

1259
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: and just sit with the presence is required. So but

1260
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: it was so good and I was and I after

1261
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: you played, I left and I was like, well good

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Speaker 1: enough for me, Like that was awesome, Like I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan and I watched it, and then when I was

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Speaker 1: picking my class of twenty nineteen, which just means, you know,

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Speaker 1: the ways of supporting other than just like because I

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: can't play songs all day on the radio, but I

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01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: can do things like put you on a morning show,

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Speaker 1: put on the podcast I can. I can play play

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: your song on the female show. Songs aren't your single,

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Speaker 1: you know, like when I was talking about just friends.

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Speaker 1: There are different ways, Um, we have a show in town,

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Speaker 1: I can tweet about you. I can like the video

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01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: that we did. You know. There are a lot of

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01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: ways that I feel like I can help out with

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01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: the exposure. And before you ever had a song out,

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01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna put you in the first

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Speaker 1: person I've ever done that with who didn't have a

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: song out. And I was like, I'm gonna put you

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Speaker 1: in the class because I've done it for five or

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Speaker 1: six years now, and so I was such a big

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Speaker 1: fan and Smash cut yesterday, We're dancing outside of my

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01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: backyard to get to this song, right here. Yeah, okay, Loki,

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01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: my legs are sort of day. Yeah, I ride the

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: bike so much at my legs are pretty good. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well you're just like squatting the whole time. I feel

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: like I'm like, like I gotta get down there too,

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01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: or it looks bad. But you have in you. Like

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Speaker 1: my struggle the whole time on the Dance Show was

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Speaker 1: it took me two or three days to even I

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable enough to really try. And so I got

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Speaker 1: I practice all the moves in the hotel because I've

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01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: been in New York all week until like I literally

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01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: just got in whenever Blanco and you and boys in

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01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: the backyard and I was like, all right, I can

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Speaker 1: do this. And so but it took me four or

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Speaker 1: five times even feel comfortable to try. And you over

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01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: here just grinding and down. I'm like, I wish I

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Speaker 1: just had Kaylee's confidence. Well I knew I was gonna

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Speaker 1: look stupid, so I was like, you just have to

1300
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Speaker 1: own it, you know what I mean? Like if Bill

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Speaker 1: Murray walked around and did all the things he did

1302
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry I did that,

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01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be funny or like cool. But he just

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01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: does all these weirdly awkward things so confidently. Have you

1305
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: seen the Bill Murray documentary' Oh you'd love it. It's

1306
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: I forget what it's. You know what's called. I don't know.

1307
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: You haven't seen it. It's about all the weird things

1308
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: he does and people. It's on Netflix, and so it's

1309
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: a documentary this guy made. He's trying to find him

1310
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: because you can't find Bill Murray. Yeah, he has one

1311
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: one phone and he's always happen and he sometimes doesn't answer.

1312
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: You have to leave number, and even big directors, everyone

1313
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: can only call that phone. I think it's called finding

1314
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Speaker 1: Bill Murray Stories. Oh my gosh, it's so I'm gonna

1315
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: go get that from my flight tonight. Why are you

1316
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna watch your phone? Can you watch your show on

1317
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: your phone? Yeah? Like at you you don't. I can't

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Speaker 1: see I am see. I'm so bad about I'll just

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Speaker 1: pull my phone into bed and just curl up and

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Speaker 1: just watch it right here. Yeah. On a lot of

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Speaker 1: my friends watched The Office on their phone, and I'm like,

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01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I can't see crap. And I was

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Speaker 1: watching our video, our dance video, because I was the

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Speaker 1: guy who shot it at a great job. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I had to take it off my phone up on

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Speaker 1: my computer because I just have never had good vision.

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Speaker 1: I just I live with it. Well. I used to

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Speaker 1: be that person that was like I have twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: vision and extremely good vision. And now it's like I'll

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Speaker 1: start reading. I love reading, but it's like the words

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Speaker 1: are getting smaller every year the passes, and now I

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Speaker 1: finally have reading glasses and I have to have them. Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: You do talk about your vision in Pilgrims voice, though,

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Speaker 1: so I like that. It's a good I didn't even

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Speaker 1: put it together. Dang it. Listen, we've been here and

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Speaker 1: we've done that. We've gone an hour. I don't even

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Speaker 1: look at the clock, Tory, and we've done an hour.

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Speaker 1: It's the longest interview you've ever done. At one hour

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Speaker 1: on the on the nose. Are we done longer? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess except the last interview. UM, I had like

1341
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: five to thirty interviewers. Everyone asked me one question on

1342
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: the show doesn't count. What what was that show? It

1343
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: was the A C M. Lifting Lives at the Secret Studios.

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Speaker 1: It was just all the kids came up. So I

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Speaker 1: did that too, isn't that the greatest that was? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was the perfect thing to do right before this too,

1347
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: because it just kind of just like it made me happy.

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01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: It just looked at my spirits and just kind of

1349
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: set me off to have a good day. Hit me

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01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: with some Just Friends from Kaylee Hammock please my j

1351
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: I was talking to the head of our format, Sam

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01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: draw Phillips were very love rod. He was one of

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Speaker 1: the ones that pushed me here and then I helped

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Speaker 1: him get He was working on a national all format

1355
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: stage and I helped him become the country. Guys. We

1356
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: definitely both put each other in our places here in

1357
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: a good and bad way, mostly a great ways, Like

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Speaker 1: the closest to me and I was like, dude, you

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: gotta hear Just Friends. It's not even a single, but

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Speaker 1: you And so I made him listen to it. You

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: know the awkward thing when you make him listen to

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: a song in front of you and you and then

1363
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: you just sit there and watch them the whole time.

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: And I did that to him almost like this is

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01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: the like this is what we're looking for, like somebody

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: one if the hook the course is super catchy. It's

1367
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Speaker 1: a bit of a risk, which is what it should be.

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01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: And you're just good. You're good. And so that's this one.

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Speaker 1: Here's family tree again. So I encourage that. Stream it,

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: download at whatever you do with your music these days,

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: you just wonder why YouTube though, I can't keep playing

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: whenever you get out of the app. Oh it does

1373
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: if you get premium. Who's gonna get premium though? Well

1374
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: there she goes from living in the back of a

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01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: car to getting premium YouTube. I've really, I've really look

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Speaker 1: at you all right, Kaylee. Listen on Instagram? Is it

1377
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: just it's at Kaylee Hammicu at c A Y L

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: e e h A M M A c K. And

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: when I looked a minute ago, because I it was

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Speaker 1: just looking at the preview clip of our dance video,

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Speaker 1: it was at a quarter of a million of views.

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah I saw that. You've got like a couple of thousand. Yeah, okay, Bobby. Look,

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: I I don't have many followers on all my Instagram

1384
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: and all of that. Um, I've just kind of kept

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: my blinders on them, like if I make good music,

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: they will come. If you build it, they will come.

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: So that's really exciting for me. So go follow Kaylee

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01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: to hear this and im so glad. I have friends

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01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 1: with a million. You may have YouTube super YouTube, alright,

1390
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 1: follow Kaylee Hammy, check out our music. I'm so proud

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01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: of your proud for you, I am. I'm a fan

1392
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: any of impression, like any acting like the leaves with

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: may the luck of the ider should be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, all right, episode, thank you