1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Some of the joys. I'm a homegrow that knows a 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: little bit about everything and everybody. You know, if you 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: don't lie about that. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Right, Hey, y'all, what's up. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Laura La Rosa. This is your NELLI big on all 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the converse 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: stations that shake the room. Baby, and y'all know how 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: we have to start. But if you are new year, 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: my new low ride is neue to the community. We 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: start with behind the scenes of the grind and a 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: little check. Today I am feeling growth. And when I 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: say I'm feeling growth, I don't mean in the sense of, like, 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, a new accomplishment, like physically, in in like 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: life career. I don't mean like you know, people talk 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: about growth and change and it being uncomfortable. I mean today, 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: the way that I handled a certain situation, I don't know, 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: it just I was afterwards, I walked away and I 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: was like, I'm proud of you more. But I'm very 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: proud of you because you a month or two ago 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to handle that situation the same way. Now, 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: it's not all the way perfect, Okay, there are so 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get better with my accountability factor. I 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: really am trying to get better with accountability. I feel like, 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that I know I 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: always want to do is remain a student and always. 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: Stay a student. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: But I feel like in order to remain and be 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: a student, you have to have mentors and coaches, and 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: not even if they're not like coaches or mentors directly 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: truck that people on your team who are around you who 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: are smarter than you or smarter than you at something 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: better than you as something who actually want to be 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: around you to teach you and to you know, and 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: not just teach you just any old thing, like people 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: who actually care about your growth and your well being. 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I realized about myself 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: and my adult life is that, you know, although I 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: have a ton. 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: Of a people around me, I don't know. 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I just have begun to really wonder, like, how many 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: things have I closed myself off too because I'm not 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: accountable in a certain situation and I'm just. 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Wanting and eager to be educated and taught. 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: But like, am I an easy student? We always talk 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: about the teacher and how they relate information. I've talked 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: to you guys here on the podcast just about you know, 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: just like experiences that I've had with like trying to 49 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: figure out mentors in the space that I'm in, and 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, shoot, just how it doesn't always go You 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: guys saw me on the Breakfast Club actually having a 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: conversation This was almost two years ago down having a 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: conversation with Carrie Champion. Hey Carrie, shout out to her. 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: She's also on the Black Effect podcast network, and having 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: a conversation just about how sometimes interactions with other women 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: in the space that I'm in, other Black women in 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the space that I'm in, especially older. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: Black women in this space, haven't been the best. 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: And like I'm not really one to like, you know, 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: it's like as nice as I am, as social butterfly 61 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: as I am, like I'm really like either I'm like 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: super down, loyal or cordial for the sake of or 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: like I just don't fool with it at all. And 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: one of the things that I've learned and in this 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: new season of my life is that i want to 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: always make sure that like I'm giving off the people 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: what I want them to, like, like what I would 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: expect to receive from someone. I also want to be 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: given at all. And I feel like the way that 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: God works, that's. 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: How it is. 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: It's like you gig what you want to take, or 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: you take what you want to give. So I've been 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: having some conversations with myself with just about accountability also too. 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I just feel like. 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: When you get the moment, when you get the platform, 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: it's like it's go to it's time to take it. 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of cost people talk about 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: receiving these moments, garnering success, reaching these different plateaus, especially 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: being in the first in your family to reach, you know, 81 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: even if it's not like a certain level of financial success, 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: but just like you know the rooms that you're walking 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: in to be the first to do that and to 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: be navigating that. A lot of times people don't talk 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: about what days are about themselves negatively in a way 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: that it could be blockaged for your blessing for what 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: you got coming. And I've always been very buried and 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: tune and self aware even in time, like I'm so 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: self aware. I know when I'm not admitting and I 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: know and I purposely don't admit it in times and 91 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: with certain things, and I'm like I A, I get 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: older now and as the platform grows and just you know, 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: not even about the platform, but just the blessings that 94 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: I want to see in my life because of where 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to take things to. There's a huge level 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: of accountability that I'm going to have. 97 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: I have a mentor. 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: Her name is Miss Lorie Hayes, and she always used 99 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: to say to us, warning comes before destruction. And one 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: of the things that I love to remember is that 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: because a lot of times you know when you're not 102 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: operating at your full potential, you know when you are 103 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: in your own way, you know when you are what, 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: you know when you're the problem. A lot of times 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: the best of us know when we are the problem, 106 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: and the even better of us know, okay, let me 107 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: fix it, let me get out of my own way. 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: So I've been trying to do a lot better at that. 109 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: And today I handled uh, you know, critique in the 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: situation in a way that I feel like it was 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: really different than what I would have normally done, and 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: I was proud of myself. So today, behind the scenes 113 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: of the grind, are feeling that growth in that area. 114 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: But I'm feeling proud of myself for it small look 115 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: small when okay, I'll take it. Okay when when you're 116 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: a mouvy girl like me, okay, and the fence is 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: real fast and real slick. You take what you can get, 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: so I'll take it. Not perfect, but growing behind the 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: scenes to the ground. Now let's get on into the latest. 120 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: So I told you guys that we were going to 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: be talking about a huge celebrity who you know has 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: grown right before our eyes literally and continues to She 123 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: is a music artist, she is an actress, she is 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: a business mogul, a mother, and she is known to 125 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people by the saying okay, she is 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Cardi B. So Kratei B sat down with Immogrety. Emmigrety 127 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: is the brand strategists and brains behind so many brands, 128 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: including Schemes, which is the very profitable business owned by 129 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. Now, Immogredy has a podcast called Aspire with Emmigredy, 130 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: and on this episode she sits down with Cardi B 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: and they talk about a ton of different things. The 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: gist of Immigree's podcast is it's like pop culture, but 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: it's business strategy, marketing, brand growth, brand partnership, and money 134 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: within pop culture. So she's having a conversation about party 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: and you know, just Carti starting from nothing with no 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: code sign, figuring it out in real time, Carti investing 137 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: her own money into herself, navigating brand deals, some bad, 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: some good, and just Carti come into herself in a 139 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: way that was very much like what I talked about 140 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: when we just checked them behind this sense of the grind, 141 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: like realizing what needed to be done, doing it, getting 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: out of her own way. And she there are so 143 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: many places that you know, Cardi B goes in this 144 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: interview now for me to hear her talk just through 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: the brand and business side of the journey, Cardi B 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: is very like, I'm so like, I feel like a 147 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: like And again me and Carti you are not like 148 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: the best of friends or anything like that. But Carti's 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: now manager and I would call a creator director to 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: Patience Foster and I have like we've known each other 151 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: for a very long time, but from both from a 152 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: woman'ton Delaware, grew up, I would say, grew up together. 153 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: But I met Patience later on in Lives. I met Patience 154 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: in high school, but I've known her since and kind of, 155 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, we were on a grind together, just trying 156 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: to figure this out, and not even always together in 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: the sense of like right there next to each other, 158 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: but just at the same time trying to figure it 159 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: out and hearing Carti talk about some of these things 160 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: like investing in herself and and you know, all of 161 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: those moments. It's so crazy to see because I remember it. 162 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: I remember literally like Carti's like first tour, I guess 163 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: she would call it, not even like a real tour, 164 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: but when Cardi first dropped music and she was going 165 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: from club to club, and she was shopping Saket eight 166 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: and she was putting her own money in. And I 167 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: remember when Carti was supposed to premiere on Love and 168 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Hip Hop, and you know, between the times she was 169 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: supposed to actually air on the show and the time 170 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: she promoted it, her star grew so much that there 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: were rumors that Carti had to go back and renegotiate with. 172 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Mona Scott Young. 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: I actually asked Mona Scott Young about that when she 174 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: came on the Breakfast Club. So Immigraty and Carti stood 175 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: down in La and they're having this very candid conversation 176 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: because Cardi just launched her hair brain Grow Good, and 177 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: her hair brain is something that we've also watched her 178 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: do for a long time over the years, take care 179 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: of her own hair, figure out her own hair, treat 180 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: her own hair under the wags that she wears, and 181 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: to start it off, they talk about Carti and her 182 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: decision to invest in herself in a real life. 183 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: So, I was investing in my music career. I was 184 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: investing in my studio time, I was investing in my 185 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: own clothes. It was never managers. It was never a 186 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: label to cut me a check, like is that, oh here, 187 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: if you want to get into fashion, here's a check 188 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: for you, and you can invest in fashion and go 189 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: to a fashion shows and everything. Everything I had to 190 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: invest in me. It was never like I had a 191 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: manager and he believed in me, and he invested so 192 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: much money. He was doing the work. But I was 193 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: investing every single dollar that I made every single night, 194 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: hosting these clubs, promoting T shirts, promoting other people's business, 195 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: to my music career, and it it was. 196 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: So crazy, Like I told you guys, like I remember 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: this era of Carti. I think what's even crazier is 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: like so seeing her all the years back right, all 199 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: those years that was before I moved to LA. To 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: the answer, y'all, I think so I moved back to 201 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: LA in twenty sixteen. So the air that Carti is 202 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: talking about, yeah, it's like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen when 203 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: everything first started kind of moving for herself. So Boda 204 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Yellow came out in twenty seventeen around so before Carti 205 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: B had Bodak Yellow, she had dropped a mixtape. So 206 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I remember Forever Forever was in twenty six and that 207 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: was the song that Cardi B had made around her 208 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: moment for loving hip hop. We girl have bet for Me, 209 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: she gonna have be for me whatever, Okay, And that 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: was such a big moment from love and hip hop 211 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: New York. But then Boda Yellow drops a year later 212 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: off of a gangst the Bitch Music Volume Too, which 213 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: was a mix take that Cardi B had. I remember 214 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: the videos, I remember the photo shoots, like I literally 215 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: remember so much of this of this time and just 216 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: them figuring it out, using everything they can, every resource 217 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: they can, whatever they figure out. And the reason why 218 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I was saying, like it's so crazy to see is 219 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: because it's like you see Cardi Now like we've been 220 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: to Cardi B's concert. 221 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: I talked about it here on the podcast. 222 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: You go check out those previous episodes. But being in 223 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: this gate of my life, I felt like like I'm 224 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: listening to Cardi's story and I'm like, I thought I 225 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: fully understood the investment card of it and. 226 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: What she's talking about. 227 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: But I feel like this season of my life is 228 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: the season that Carti's talking about in that clip that 229 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: we do. I've always been investing in myself from trying 230 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: to like figure out those things and like putting money 231 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: back into myself. And I don't know where you guys 232 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: are lowriders, but for me right now, it's like all 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: of my money going into things that like equal bigger 234 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: things for me. So whether it's like experiences that are 235 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: going to be great because I'm trying to lean into 236 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: partnerships that also will garner more experiences, or you know, 237 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: making sure you know where I'm filming a podcast, is 238 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: it's straight the money into that photo shoots, merch like 239 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: get y'all merch at brown girl Grinding dot com, all 240 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: of that stuff. I was watching this and not like oh, yes, 241 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: like I feel you and I think that's why, like 242 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: with Carti, there are so many people that relate to 243 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: her and just kind of like lock in with her 244 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: because all of it and all of her experience that 245 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: she shares very vulnerably is so reliable, so relatable. Now 246 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: she talks about the time period where and it's around 247 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: this twenty sixteen twenty seventeen time where Carti was trying 248 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to go from reality TV into music and you know, 249 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: fun fact, Carti she wanted to do music right, She 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: was actually hesitant about doing love and hip hop because 251 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: she was worried about the box that it will put 252 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: her in and how it would shaped her career after 253 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: the show. So she knew even back then, but she 254 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: was able to work around that. But she telled them 255 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: a greedy in this interview how she wasn't able to 256 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: work around it because people believed it, because she believed 257 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: it herself. Label didn't even want to find it that. 258 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Some people think that when you start off in a 259 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: reality show and when you're really funny like me, it's 260 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: really hard to convince people that you're being serious. It's like, yeah, yeah, 261 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: you want to do music, and it's like, no, I 262 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: really want to do music, like I went to so 263 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: many different labels, and it was just like hm, or 264 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: this person trying to this person in a reality show 265 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 3: try to do music. It didn't work out, So I'm 266 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 3: not really sure. We want to see we want to 267 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: see what it looked like after the see the TV 268 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: show airs out, and we want to see how does 269 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: that go for you? And it's like, you know what, Fine, 270 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: I don't need your money. I just invested on myself. 271 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: I'll just do it myself. 272 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: I just do it all myself. Like even like the 273 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: money that I was getting for love and hip hop, 274 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: I was investing in all in my music. And like 275 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: sometimes I really I wanted to buy a I wanted 276 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: to buy a chain. I wanted to buy a nice 277 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: Chanelle bag. 278 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: I wanted that. 279 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: But it's like this first, like this first, and I 280 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: was so committed and it happened for me. 281 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: I mean, it just shows a lot of focus and 282 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: a lot of self belief for you at that point 283 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: in your career to decide like that's that's what. 284 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to do. 285 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: I guess what you're describing is that you were massively underestimated. 286 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: Do you still feel like you're underestimated? 287 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm underestimated, but I feel like this 288 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: second album a lot of a lot of. 289 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the time period, and I remember when 290 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Carti first got signed, And the reason why I remember 291 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: is because. 292 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: This was this was like the turning. 293 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Point where a lot of artists UH wanted to make 294 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: it seem like they didn't have any major labels behind them, 295 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: and I remember Carti started doing these like big stages, 296 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: these big shows, these big award shows. So Carti performed 297 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: because I was at TMC during this time period. So granted, 298 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: when the tie started to change for Carti and like 299 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: people started to look at her as not just a 300 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: viral Instagram sensation, but she was on television, which is 301 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: crazy that the tide started to change around that time, 302 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: because as I told you guys, like knowing some of 303 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: them behind the scenes, I know that it was very 304 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: intentionally that Carty didn't want to get caught in that 305 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: reality star box. I remember when she wanted to make 306 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: it clear that fashion was her thing, and she did 307 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: the cover of Fashion Bomb Daily, the digital. 308 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: Cover some years ago as well too. 309 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: It was like her first fashion look, like major one anyway, 310 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: and she was just very intentional from the beginning right. 311 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: I used to try and pitch her at TMZ, like 312 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: to run into her on our tour, just different things. 313 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I remember Lee and Patience used to like we were 314 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: always trying to figure out sometime for her to just 315 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: run into our tour, even without them knowing, because I 316 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: was like, if we just do it, then I can 317 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: and she's funny, which she will be. I can go 318 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: in and just pitch it and make it work. But 319 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: it was tough because and I didn't know because I 320 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: wasn't fully in the newsroom at that time. But once 321 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I got in the newsroom and got really close to Van, 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: I remember Van telling me like he was also from 323 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the inside trying to pitch Cardi B as well too, 324 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: and they didn't really understand it yet. But when the 325 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: CAI started changing for her, honestly, was when she got 326 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: on television, in my opinion, at least from my standpoint, 327 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: and where I wasn't like just media news. I feel 328 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: like being on that platform gave people a reason to 329 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: talk about her outside of just social media, because this 330 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: was early days when people that were on social media 331 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: it was hard for them to be looked at as 332 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: celebrities like I also remember it was Cardi B, Logan 333 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: Paul and J Paul. We used to pitch d S 334 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: three in our newsroom at TMD, or the newsroom not 335 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: hours of another anymore, but the newsroom at TMD all 336 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: the time. And I remember Harvey used to be so mad, like, 337 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: they are not celebrities, they are online influencers. And when 338 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: we even when we would talk about stories that originated 339 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: from social media, he'd be like, don't say you got 340 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: it from social media, because social media was just looked 341 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: at as this thing that was just the Internet. To 342 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: anyone who was like old school newsmen or whatever. You 343 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: didn't take a lot coming off the social media series. 344 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: And then the tide just changed, and Cardi was a 345 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: big part of that because she was so vocal on 346 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: social media, so tapped on social media, but she was 347 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: also on television and causing big ways over there. Miss 348 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: of all of this, so the music is dropping. Cardi 349 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: B then does the MTV Video Music Awards in twenty seventeen. 350 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: She performed at a pre show. This was a huge 351 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: deal and I remember. 352 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: This performance because she performed and then later on she 353 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: did I Like It at the twenty eighteen American Music 354 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Awards at AMAS I remember the performances because I'm like, yo, 355 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: these are such big stages, Like I'm so happy for her. 356 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: She kn't major looks now like how is she able 357 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: to get on these big stages because there's a lot 358 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: of artists who were also making ways and talented but 359 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: can't get on these big stages. And I remember being 360 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: told like, oh, she signed to Atlantic, but she didn't 361 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: want to like announce it at one point. And then 362 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I remember when she started having some success of the label, 363 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: it became a part of the conversation. 364 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: And I think a part of that was too. 365 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Like I said in the beginning, this was the turning 366 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: tide of when people really wanted to see independent from 367 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: a label. 368 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean, and to be fair, Cardi has. 369 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Always been one that has been running and doing a 370 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: lot of her own groundwork like the artists. But I 371 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: know that was that element to it too. But to 372 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: see all of this in real time and say, hear 373 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: her talk back on it, like spending the money she 374 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: was spending for herself and did her early know how 375 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: to do that and where she got in from now 376 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: right with different deals that she's been able to leverage, 377 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Cardi b has done deals with fashion No, and I'm 378 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: just gonna name a few because I know none of 379 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: miss them. Fashion Over was a big deal. It sold 380 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: out so fast. It was one of the fashion of 381 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: his biggest celebrity brand partnerships of patients. Foster was also 382 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: the hem of it, with Cardi b in that as 383 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: well too, like you know, creatively directing, managing and leading 384 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: a lot of that partnership. She just recently did a 385 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: revolved deal, so they're going to do things across fashion 386 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: and all all faucets and all assets. And she talks 387 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: a bit about that in this interview. She now has 388 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: her Girl Good hairbrand. Cardi has Whip Shops, which is 389 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: wine and spirits. 390 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: She's done television things. 391 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: She is all over the game, like all over it 392 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: in major ways. One of the things that I thought 393 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: that was so you know, honest, but also I was 394 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: glad she said it because a lot of people when 395 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: you when things flags start moving for you, you you just 396 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: rip it and running so fast and you're just trying 397 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to make the money. It's the same that sometimes the 398 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: business falls through. And Cardy talks a lot about, you know, 399 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: just making sure that you know what your business looks 400 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: like and how she was you know, she did some 401 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: bad deals that she had to learn from them. 402 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: Taxes. 403 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: It's like, oh my gosh, if I could learn something 404 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: new every time about taxes, Like it was like that's 405 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: what I that's what I want to like learn And 406 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: then like who money comes and goes so fast? 407 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: Listen. 408 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about that because I think 409 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: you revealed last year you were spending like three million 410 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: dollars a month or something like that on your outgoings 411 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: on keeping CARDI Bay and the family going with that truth. 412 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: Yes, like it's like so many it's just well not 413 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 3: not three million. It was like a year that I 414 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: was like, why am I spending a million dollars on 415 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: transportation a year? Like driving transportation, not not planes or nothing, 416 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: like just driving transportation. And that's just because it's like 417 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: sometimes like you don't even be having talks with your 418 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: accounting every every week. You just be like, oh whatever, 419 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: cause I could see what I got going on in 420 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: my credit card. But there's just so many little accounts 421 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: that you have that it's like I'm not always keeping 422 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: up with it, keep up with every single account that 423 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 3: you have. 424 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 4: Are you doing that now? 425 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Yes? 426 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm not, and I'm not feeling bad for 427 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: people anymore. Like it's like, hey, listen, you are taking 428 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: advantage too much. You gotta go, you gotta get fired baby. 429 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: Like I said, there's a lot of. 430 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that people try to make 431 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: nuance in life, especially like in successive business. Like I 432 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: think people look at anybody that's successful automatically assume that 433 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: like you just figure it out, well, like you automatically 434 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: have it figured out, or you you know, it was 435 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: passed down from you, or most of the time it's 436 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: like who do they have around them? Like people are 437 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like who you have around you. 438 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: But regardless of all of that, regardless if it's been 439 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: passed down through family members, you know that financial education 440 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: or business savvy, regardless if it's because of the partners 441 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: you have around you. One of the things that I've 442 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: learned and I'm learning still is like you have to 443 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: have your hands and everything monitor to the people, monitor 444 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: their process, their progress, and also monitor your money because 445 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: people don't spend and hold on to money like you 446 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: do because they're not working for it. That has been 447 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: my biggest learning lesson of Like, no, I want to 448 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: watch everything, Like, I want to know who's being paid 449 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: for what, how we being paid? Why is this person 450 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: getting a percentage of this? They weren't involved, Like, there 451 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: are so many people that get in this business and 452 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: business goes bad for them, not because the business wasn't there, 453 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: but because the the. 454 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: What Carti is talking about, like the turnaround and. 455 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: The evolution from I did bad business. 456 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: I did a bad deal. 457 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: I learned from it, the warning that came before the destruction, Right, 458 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: people don't People don't evolve from that. They don't learn 459 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: from that. Oh no, baby got me. I'm watching people 460 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: like you know Carti when it comes to business. Shoot. 461 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: When I was at her concert just Saturday at the 462 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: Prudential Center, I was just paying attention like I always 463 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: did to everything, being nosy, and I saw her spray 464 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: perfume on herself and I text, you know somebody from 465 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: her team and I'm like, is Carty about to drop 466 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: a sent And they were like, no, that's McClair. That's 467 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: their moment in the show. They have a sponsorship with Party, 468 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay. And I feel like that's 469 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: one thing that isn't really talked about a lot is 470 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: the fact that Mclair. She has a brand partnership with Mclair, 471 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: which is we Carty talks about Mclair so much in 472 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: her music, so it only makes sense. But at how 473 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: she's able to pull off a lot of the three 474 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I tricks that we're seeing on the on that stage 475 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: because it costs money, and she's talked about the label 476 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: needing to put up more money. I'm sorry she talked 477 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: about like Nation, who is the torn company, needing to 478 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: put up more money next year and just you know, 479 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: in the beginning of all of this, how she had 480 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: to go and find and figure out a lot of 481 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: the money because of everything she wanted to do. 482 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that that was one of the things. 483 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: That they figured out. Like she has been very smart 484 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: about taking what she's learned and applying in a very 485 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: in a very good way. And I think you know, 486 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: the time that Cardy took off music, people look at 487 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: it like an absence, But to me, it sounds like 488 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: she was rubbing up. 489 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: It sounds like she was looking around. 490 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: She was getting herself together mentally because you know, she 491 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: was going through divorce that whole situation, but she was 492 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: also trying to figure out, like where her priorities lie, 493 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: what is important, what's not important? Where does she want 494 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: to spend her time? What story does she want to tell? Who? 495 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: In looking around, who am I going to do it with? 496 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: Who are the team members? Who are the brands? And 497 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: that little bit of time or lack thereof can take 498 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: you from zero to one hundred or literally nothing. 499 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: Now one of the last things I want to bring. 500 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Into this because y'all know I talk a lot about 501 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: family on the podcast and just you know, learning this 502 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: new space of being able to show up for everybody 503 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: but also show up for myself. 504 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: CARTI talked about just the. 505 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: The you know, the tax that there is, but being 506 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: successful in your family and being the person that to 507 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: what can rely on how financially that takes a toll too. 508 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: I already I feel like I already said boundaries with 509 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: my family already, those boundaries are already said, Like it's like, 510 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: how'd you do that? Just it's like I just got 511 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: so tired of it, and it's just like just say no, 512 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: Like just just say no. And now I feel like 513 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: my family knows like how much or on you could 514 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: ask me, or what type of situation you could ask. 515 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: But it's like even some people that I just employed 516 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: that are not my family. Like sometimes like people that 517 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: I employed sometimes I become really cool with or I 518 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: really like them, and it's like, you know what, we're 519 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: getting too comfortable and you overcharging me. 520 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: You got a gun. 521 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: You gotta fucking go. You ain't got no mercy, y'all 522 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: me bitch, Like, it's like, you gotta go now. 523 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all. Carti has a really big family 524 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: that she talks about all the time, from her mom, 525 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: her dad. 526 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: Her sister Hennthy all of a lot of her cousins. 527 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: She doesn't post them as much now, but when Carti 528 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: used to do videos on time on Instagram, she would 529 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: always be posting her cousins. There were videos she would 530 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: post them having parties at their houses and you know, 531 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: just all the food and the Spanish music and you know, 532 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: so there are a lot of people there. She also 533 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: has talked a lot about I remember when the pandemic hit, 534 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Carti was talking to it, and then once eggs went 535 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: up in price, she. 536 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: Was talking about how she grocery shops for a lot 537 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: of people in. 538 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Her family and how expensive everything is and some things 539 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: are like you know, you can't control the press of groceries, right, 540 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: but learning how to say no and learning how to 541 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: look at every dollar you spend, whether it's going to 542 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: a family member, a business, an investment into yourself something 543 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be buying, shopping, whatever it is, looking at 544 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: every dollar that you put out as something that you're 545 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: taking away from a moment you could be that investing 546 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: in yourself and making sure it is something that it's 547 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: not even about it being worked it, but like it's 548 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: something that isn't putting you in a deficit. And sometimes 549 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: the deficits don't even look like you not having the 550 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: money because with a person like a Cardi b or 551 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: Emma Greedy, like, I'm sure there's more where that came from. 552 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: That's what we're all working to. That's what I'm working 553 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: So that's why we're. 554 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Watching these interviews. But if you want to keep it 555 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: like that, who order is more to you know, to 556 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: come from, Like you have to understand what that is. 557 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: And I thought the Emma putting it into the conversation 558 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: of it being called family pats, I was like, Okay, 559 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: that's a good way to look at it, because that 560 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: makes it a business thing because you're never going to 561 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: let someone in business just keep taking thick and taking 562 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: thick and taking and never returning. You would cut it off. 563 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: You would stop, I'm doing business with that person. Your 564 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: return would be good and not that anyone that you 565 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: help in your family or people who love that always 566 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: has to be a return. 567 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: But you, guys, on what I mean, like, you wouldn't 568 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: allow yourself to. 569 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Be taking advantage of And that's just one of the 570 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: things that you're like learning that or that I'm learning. 571 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: And it's not even about money. Sometimes it's about the 572 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: guilt that we talked about on a previous episode as well. 573 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: Go back and take a listen to that. I'll talk 574 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: to you guys about, you know, the guilt of just 575 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: not being able to spend time with everybody all the time. 576 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: But sometimes you know, depending on where you are in 577 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: your life, your time is your money too, and you 578 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: got to be a little stingy with it just for 579 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Just that's the investment, just for a 580 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: little bit until you can give it all back out. 581 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Laura 582 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: and Rosa. I am Lauren and Rosa. I tell you guys, 583 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: every single episode my Lowriders y'all could be anywhere with 584 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: any old body, talking about a lot of other things, 585 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: but y'all should just be right here with me every 586 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: single episode, and I appreciate you guys for that