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Speaker 2: We will talk to Brent Musberger a little bit later
Speaker 2: on this morning. Brandal Shambley will join us from Augusta
Speaker 2: after what we saw yesterday. But let me start with Brent,
Speaker 2: because every generation has a voice that defines how we
Speaker 2: remember a game, and for millions of fans, that voice
Speaker 2: was Brent Musburger, and he's finally getting his due now.
Speaker 2: The award is called the Pete Roselle Radio and TV Award.
Speaker 2: Pete Roselle former NFL commissioner, and Brent has been a
Speaker 2: voice for generation for fifty years. When you think about
Speaker 2: a Saturday or Sunday or a Monday, and when he
Speaker 2: would say you are looking live, it was just it
Speaker 2: sounded like something bigger was going to happen. The Rose Bowl,
Speaker 2: the final four, NFL, Sunday's a BCS title game. He
Speaker 2: had a voice that when you heard it, you knew
Speaker 2: that something was a little more important, a little more special.
Speaker 2: The Pete Roselle Award is not just a honoring a broadcaster.
Speaker 2: It celebrates really the soundtrack of a lot of our lives.
Speaker 2: And Brent gave us moments. He gave us memories. This
Speaker 2: is long overdue. There are some people at the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame who reached out yesterday gave me
Speaker 2: a heads up before it was officially announced and said,
Speaker 2: you guys did it. So a round of applause for us,
Speaker 2: because I just kept thinking, Brent deserves to be in
Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, just like John Facenda.
Speaker 2: Years ago, I realized John Facenda, the voice of NFL films,
Speaker 2: was not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 2: reached out to a friend who I've known for thirty
Speaker 2: five years who works there, and I said, this is
Speaker 2: an injustice, and she said, I'll put you in touch
Speaker 2: with David Baker, who ran the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and David said, write a letter. So I go to
Speaker 2: McLevin and I said, let's put together a letter and
Speaker 2: send it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Maybe
Speaker 2: they can give it to the voters and remind them
Speaker 2: that John Facenda, the voice of the NFL, was not
Speaker 2: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And then David
Speaker 2: Baker called the show and said, John Facenda is going
Speaker 2: in posthumously. I didn't want that to happen with Brent,
Speaker 2: And every time I would have him on.
Speaker 3: We saw him in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: He came by, He's eighty five years of age, and
Speaker 2: I said, damn it, we're going to get you in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Whatever role we played, and maybe
Speaker 2: it's a small role, but all I wanted to do
Speaker 2: is use the platform to remind people that he was
Speaker 2: not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And when
Speaker 2: you think about the certain memories you have, the people
Speaker 2: you remember, the shows you remember, and the impact that
Speaker 2: they had on you. The CBS pregame show with Brent,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the first time I go I can
Speaker 2: do that. I can That's what I want to do.
Speaker 2: I can have a goal where I'm hosting a show
Speaker 2: like that. And I never would have thought that. I
Speaker 2: didn't have direction. I knew I wanted to be in sports,
Speaker 2: but I saw Brent and I thought, that's what I
Speaker 2: want to do. But when you think about starting your
Speaker 2: football Sunday, you started your football Sunday with Brent saying
Speaker 2: you are looking live. And you know, even now, I
Speaker 2: never get tired of that. You are looking live. So
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's going in well deserved. He'll join us
Speaker 2: a little bit later on and you know, I tried
Speaker 2: to get Jim Nantz involved in it, and I think
Speaker 2: Jim was echoing the sentiments to try to get Brent
Speaker 2: in as well. So there's a few other people who
Speaker 2: certainly picked up the baton and use their platform to
Speaker 2: help Brent or remind people that Brent wasn't in the
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. So thank you all the
Speaker 2: people involved. Patty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 4: I go back to two three years ago, we were
Speaker 4: talking about the award, the Pete Rosella Award, and I
Speaker 4: think it was Fred Goadelli, the great director from ABC,
Speaker 4: and we looked up and we didn't see Brent's name
Speaker 4: on the list. We saw like Tom Jackson and Andrea
Speaker 4: Kramer and Joe Buck and Jim Nance and it almost
Speaker 4: looked like this must be a typo. Brent Musburger's name
Speaker 4: is not on the list of the Roselle Award for
Speaker 4: contributions to the game as a media member. We actually
Speaker 4: double checked because we thought we had it wrong, and
Speaker 4: then we brought it up on air, and every time
Speaker 4: you said it on air, people would reck.
Speaker 5: Like, how can this be?
Speaker 4: It's It's almost like what must have been so obvious
Speaker 4: that Brent should be in. No one discussed him being it.
Speaker 4: I can't think of any other reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I don't want to ask Brent
Speaker 2: why he wasn't in, or you know, any of that.
Speaker 2: We should be looking moving forward with that. But a
Speaker 2: lot of people got involved in this behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: and great greatly appreciate that. So we have a poll
Speaker 2: question today, Play of the Day, stat of the Day,
Speaker 2: all of that forthcoming. Your phone calls are welcome. It's
Speaker 2: a Friday. Everybody's in a great mood. Got to meet Friday.
Speaker 2: Brent's news Yeah, you know, nominated for a Sammy, all
Speaker 2: great stuff. So, uh seton, what are you gonna go with?
Speaker 2: And it's such a great time of the year. You
Speaker 2: got golf, the home stretch of the NBA, you got baseball,
Speaker 2: you got hockey home stretch. You know, we've got the draft,
Speaker 2: you know, coming up in a couple of weeks. So
Speaker 2: it's it's really a great time of the year to
Speaker 2: do this for a living or just be a fan. Seaton,
Speaker 2: what are we going to go with? First hour?
Speaker 6: Marvinson went actually based on the Brent Musburger getting into
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Who should Dan get into the Hall of Fame. Next.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this because my brother, my brother,
Speaker 2: who is a big music guy. He goes, Okay, you
Speaker 2: used your platform to help Foreigner get into the Rock
Speaker 2: and Roll Hall of Fame, because I thought that was
Speaker 2: an injustice as well, and even met with their lead singer,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm I'm going on my show and
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about Foreigner needs to be in
Speaker 2: the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They get in
Speaker 2: the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And then we
Speaker 2: had John Facenda. Now, Brent, I'm tired. I got to
Speaker 2: let somebody else do this. Yes, Paulie, I got a couple.
Speaker 2: If you can crank it up.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. If I have the energy, I'll
Speaker 3: throw it too.
Speaker 4: For the Pete Roselle Radio and Television Award. These two gentlemen.
Speaker 3: I can't nominate myself, Paulie, that's silly.
Speaker 7: Wait.
Speaker 4: Oh, if the award is contributions to growing the game
Speaker 4: of football, how about Mel Kuiper.
Speaker 5: Yes again, that's it's tiven a question.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, we brought this up last year. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: we brought this up last year about Mel.
Speaker 5: And Peter King, the writer.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, do you want to do one at a time,
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 2: Me Mel Kuiper, absolutely positively yes. And Peter you know,
Speaker 2: these are these are people who are there. You know,
Speaker 2: it's their lives. It's year round. You know, we get
Speaker 2: to enjoy football in football season. But with uh, with Mel,
Speaker 2: this is year round, this is all Mel does. And
Speaker 2: then with Peter and now he just retired. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you're those are two great, great examples of people who
Speaker 2: should be nominated. But definitely Mel Kiper. He was doing
Speaker 2: it when people weren't doing this. He changed the draft.
Speaker 2: Like if you think about what Mel was doing when
Speaker 2: he was doing it, how he was doing it, and
Speaker 2: he'd be in his little laboratory and he'd come out
Speaker 2: with player profiles and he'd say, you know, this guy
Speaker 2: from this college, and this is where he should go.
Speaker 3: And I mean he had his mock drafts. I mean,
Speaker 3: he did all of this. He had created an entire industry.
Speaker 2: A cottage industry that is now metastasized into you know,
Speaker 2: its own sports world. You got a festival at the draft.
Speaker 2: I go back to first draft I went to was
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, not a bad draft, eighty three I
Speaker 2: was there, but I wasn't working. But you know, you
Speaker 2: start to think about what it was. They had those
Speaker 2: helmet phones. No one was really there, you know, players
Speaker 2: weren't there. Then all of a sudden it just became bigger.
Speaker 2: Hey let's televise this.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden it becomes Coachella. It's football Coachella,
Speaker 2: and Meil helped start that. And I invaluable, invaluable resource
Speaker 2: at the Mothership throughout all those in my eighteen years there,
Speaker 2: you could always rely on Mel. He would come on
Speaker 2: and he was always prepared. He always you know, he
Speaker 2: had direction with everything that he was talking about. He
Speaker 2: didn't give you sort of half assed answers, like he
Speaker 2: had done his homework and his homework was going to
Speaker 2: stand up to gms who didn't like him, or coaches
Speaker 2: or players. But he did his homework. So that's a great. Yes,
Speaker 2: let's get started on Mel. Get started on Mel, and
Speaker 2: if I have enough energy, then we can work on
Speaker 2: Peter King anybody else that needs to be I think
Speaker 2: that's good for now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 6: Are you going to expand out of just the Pete
Speaker 6: Roselle Award because there's lots of other suggestions here, what
Speaker 6: else Sonny Vaccaro is a great one arm throughout.
Speaker 2: Yes, well I even brought that up to Sonny and
Speaker 2: I even said it on the show Michael Jordan, Mike,
Speaker 2: write a letter Basketball Hall of Fame. Sonny should be
Speaker 2: in the Basketball Hall of Fame. Contributions to the game,
Speaker 2: Sonny Vacaro changed the game.
Speaker 6: And Mike said, actually, I made Sonny so.
Speaker 2: Well, if even if he says that, still write a letter,
Speaker 2: you know, that would that would carry a whole lot
Speaker 2: of weight. If Mike says Sonny should be in the
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Sonny should be writing a letter for me.
Speaker 2: Really, But but you know, to get it so, we're
Speaker 2: not doing this posthumously. And that's the key, you know,
Speaker 2: with Brent being eighty five and Sonny is in his
Speaker 2: eighties as well. What he did for the shoe industry
Speaker 2: for coaches, I mean really, this was he was doing nil,
Speaker 2: you know for these coaches before there was nil anybody
Speaker 2: else seating that I can help.
Speaker 6: Off of Marvin's list, here we got Dale Murphy. Can
Speaker 6: you get him into the Baseball Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3: I can't why.
Speaker 2: I love Murph. I think if he had two more
Speaker 2: home runs, then he might get ano what he ended
Speaker 2: up with three ninety eight, we had two MVPs.
Speaker 3: I love Murph.
Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite people I've ever met in
Speaker 2: my life, not just athlete. But I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think that's going to happen. I think he had to
Speaker 2: have four hundred home runs where they go all right,
Speaker 2: because then you could kind of put him in there
Speaker 2: with Fred McGriff and you could say, all right, you know,
Speaker 2: who else do you have? Because you know, Murph was
Speaker 2: a catcher and probably not a very good catcher. They
Speaker 2: put him in center field and he became a really
Speaker 2: good center fielder.
Speaker 4: Yes, Paulie Dan, you know how much round numbers bother me?
Speaker 4: That's the Dale Murphy is the peak of round numbers
Speaker 4: bother three ninety eight.
Speaker 5: Four hundred.
Speaker 4: He went back to back ends. There was a time
Speaker 4: when he was the most feared man in baseball, and
Speaker 4: the window was six years five six years.
Speaker 2: But he had some injuries, he didn't win, they didn't
Speaker 2: play in big games. But man, I love the team,
Speaker 2: Ralph Gard Bob Horner Braves were fun. Get to go
Speaker 2: watch them play all the time. When of his living
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, who else.
Speaker 6: Do we have their seaton Ken Anderson and get him
Speaker 6: into football.
Speaker 3: That's yes.
Speaker 2: If he won that one Super Bowl in Detroit against
Speaker 2: Joe Montana, He's in the Hall of Fame. I think
Speaker 2: because Kenny Anderson was the most accurate quarterback back when
Speaker 2: I don't think we gave a whole lot of credit
Speaker 2: to being accurate. I think he had one game where
Speaker 2: he competed completed twenty one consecutive passes and back then
Speaker 2: you were throwing deep balls Isaac Curtis. But yeah, Kenny
Speaker 2: Anderson I think is a Hall of Fame quarterback. I
Speaker 2: do anybody else there's you know, we could start populating
Speaker 2: more of that listing. Okay, yeah, you know the audience
Speaker 2: may have some suggestions. But man, when I got that
Speaker 2: news and my friend at the Pro Football Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame and she said, you did it. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I saw the press release and I immediately said to
Speaker 2: the Dan net So, I said, we did it.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 5: Eton?
Speaker 6: Actually, speaking of audience contributions, somebody tweeted at us a
Speaker 6: crazy thought that maybe we'll get to in the next segment.
Speaker 3: Okay, I can take a breatha fun. Yeah, just getting started.
Speaker 2: Man, got emotional about this, but that's your childhood, Like
Speaker 2: you're seeing somebody who impacted you greatly.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think it. You know, I was
Speaker 3: proud to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: All right, Stop crying, Dan, It's a Friday, Okay, I will.
Speaker 2: I wasn't crying. It's just kind of emoting a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Love watching, you know, Gulf Central live from U see
Speaker 2: at the Ryder Cup or a major, the Masters, and
Speaker 2: then I'm always watching Brandal Shambilie because chances are he's
Speaker 2: going to say something to piss somebody off. He's really
Speaker 2: really good at that. But I watched yesterday, Randall. I
Speaker 2: don't think you upset anybody yesterday.
Speaker 3: What's what's going on? You're going soft on us?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I kind of had an off day, I guess.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I don't know that I've pissed anybody off this whole week. Dan,
Speaker 7: I'm on great behavior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that I brought this up.
Speaker 2: When you see certain guys like Freddie Couples is sixty
Speaker 2: five and he shoots a one under, but you know,
Speaker 2: the familiarity there. He's not going to hit it where
Speaker 2: everybody hits it. But as Payne Stewart once said to me,
Speaker 2: our game is about missus where we miss and being
Speaker 2: able to get up and down as opposed to where
Speaker 2: the average golfer misses. But that local knowledge, how much
Speaker 2: does that play in with Freddie, you know, being up
Speaker 2: there at least hanging in on the leaderboard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think in a huge way. I mean, there
Speaker 7: are a lot of things that I think helped the
Speaker 7: elderly out Augusta National. The fairways there are fifty five
Speaker 7: yards wide. Yesterday was just an ideal day for scoring.
Speaker 7: It wasn't I mean, yeah, the course in Spots was
Speaker 7: firm like fifteen, but it was a goldilocks day. You know,
Speaker 7: it was pretty warm, wind wasn't blowing. And then Freddy's
Speaker 7: just he's an unbelievably good golfer and he's aged so
Speaker 7: well because the swing is long and it's languid and
Speaker 7: it's loose. It's kind of crazy, you know, if you
Speaker 7: think about yesterday, Yesterday was really a crazy day. Sneaky.
Speaker 7: One of the crazier days I think I've seen. You know,
Speaker 7: he had a guy that won twice last year, shooting ninety.
Speaker 7: You had a guy on Social Security that shot seventy one.
Speaker 7: And when we talk about somebody relieving themselves or going
Speaker 7: into Raysed Creek, I should say normally it's because they
Speaker 7: hit a shot in there, not because they went in
Speaker 7: there to relieve themselves, like the US Amateur champ did yesterday.
Speaker 7: He said, though, I'll give him a lot of credit.
Speaker 7: He said it was the largest amount of clause he
Speaker 7: got all week. And then Rory with the double bogies
Speaker 7: came way back.
Speaker 2: So he's not in trouble, is he? Because you got
Speaker 2: to be careful with your demeanor at Augusta. Certainly the
Speaker 2: patrons do. What about the golfers.
Speaker 7: I'm sure the Augusta committee wasn't too happy with him.
Speaker 7: He said he forgot to go to the bathroom. I
Speaker 7: don't know how one does that, but uh, you know
Speaker 7: you have to be I guess judicious. There was a
Speaker 7: porter potty on the thirteenth tee. I guess he forgot.
Speaker 7: And uh, anyway, you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 7: What are you gonna do when you playing with it,
Speaker 7: But you gotta go, you gotta go. But Ray's creek.
Speaker 7: Uh And then what else? What else happened crazy yesterday?
Speaker 2: Well Rory on fifteen and like I was telling people
Speaker 2: that that looked like a perfect shot. His his second
Speaker 2: shot in it goes right over the stick. Now it's
Speaker 2: on the back. Now it's tricky because it can be
Speaker 2: it borders on that's unbelievable or oh my god. And
Speaker 2: then Nance said right away it's gone because it got
Speaker 2: to that certain point it had a little bit of momentum.
Speaker 2: And then Jim says, it's gone. It's in the water.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean after it didn't check that first bounce,
Speaker 7: he knew it was gone.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: The players that had hit that shot conservatively or good,
Speaker 7: I mean it checked the first bounce, or they just
Speaker 7: were really careful, like Scotti Scheffer hit it back there
Speaker 7: and he was really careful. He landed on the fringe.
Speaker 7: He left it. Really it's hard to believe it, but
Speaker 7: it's a chip shot where you got to be conservative
Speaker 7: and as firm as that green is, they all knew it.
Speaker 7: It was such a head shot. I mean, Rory, you know,
Speaker 7: I'm i would imagine, you know better than me, but
Speaker 7: pulling for Rory, and almost everybody in the world of
Speaker 7: golf pulls for Rory, is maybe it's a kin to you.
Speaker 7: Tell me, if there's a decent analogy, I may use
Speaker 7: it to deny. Would it be like being a Buffalo
Speaker 7: Bills fan? You know, they they're awesome, right, and they
Speaker 7: just can't quite win the big game? And for the
Speaker 7: last ten years, Rory's been there all the time, and
Speaker 7: then he makes these blunders, these head scratchers in major championships.
Speaker 7: You know, he's so inconsistent in majors on the one hand,
Speaker 7: and on the other he's pretty damn consistent. You just
Speaker 7: can't quite figure him out.
Speaker 2: Well, rich Lerner, the great host of the program, says,
Speaker 2: and you got a little bit frosty, I think when
Speaker 2: he said we might look at this and say, Rory
Speaker 2: lost the tournament with that double bow GIT fifteen and
Speaker 2: double bow GIT seventeen, and then you you kind of
Speaker 2: fired back at him. So why do you think Rory
Speaker 2: is still in this thing?
Speaker 7: Because he's playing great. I mean, right up until the
Speaker 7: blunder at fifteen, he could have been seven under par
Speaker 7: pretty easily, and he was four under par, and he
Speaker 7: had really kind of gotten nothing out of the round.
Speaker 7: He had so many good shots and not capitalized on them.
Speaker 7: He played great coming in here, and Rory tends to
Speaker 7: play his best golf when he's kind of out of it,
Speaker 7: and he's not out of it. I maintain that the
Speaker 7: lead is really Scotti Scheffler. You know that's the person
Speaker 7: you got to beat. No disrespect to Justin Rose. It's
Speaker 7: hard to sustain that level of golf that he played
Speaker 7: yesterday for four days. He just made a bogue at
Speaker 7: the fifth. He's hit some of the worst shots I've
Speaker 7: seen somebody hit who's leading a golf tournament. Early in
Speaker 7: around number two, fourth old par three pins up front,
Speaker 7: he laid the sod over his approach shot fifty yards
Speaker 7: shortly the green. I've never seen anybody do that. And
Speaker 7: he got up and down for par, so he kind
Speaker 7: of smoking mirrors and then he bogued five. So my
Speaker 7: point is he's four back of Scotty Scheffler. Well, you
Speaker 7: don't think Rory can make up four shots over three days.
Speaker 7: And if I'm Rory, I'm sitting there thinking I got
Speaker 7: to go out and get twelve undred par over the
Speaker 7: next four days and that should do it. So No,
Speaker 7: I don't think he shot himself out of it, but
Speaker 7: he made pretty much all the mistakes he could make yesterday.
Speaker 2: How does Augusta keep this so the scores don't get
Speaker 2: out of hand? When you see Deshambo hitting at three
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards and then you got a short
Speaker 2: iron into a Part five rory with that, as you said,
Speaker 2: you can blast it there if you miss a fair way,
Speaker 2: they's saying a lot about your driving ability or lack thereof.
Speaker 2: But what does Augusta do continue to do to keep
Speaker 2: it in a certain number if that's important to them.
Speaker 7: Well, the golf course has a lot of links to it,
Speaker 7: you know. The Augusta more than any other golf course
Speaker 7: I think in the country has managed to sort of
Speaker 7: keep up with the technological and I would say physique
Speaker 7: changes in the game of golf. The scoring average yesterday
Speaker 7: was seventy three point four. Last year was seventy three
Speaker 7: point nine. I mean, you go back forty years, that's
Speaker 7: kind of what the scoring average was, so they kept
Speaker 7: in step. The greens are firm, they're the most undulating,
Speaker 7: difficult greens in the game of golf. There's plenty of
Speaker 7: trouble to wreak havoc out there.
Speaker 5: So the.
Speaker 7: Difficult part of Gusta National is to go around there
Speaker 7: not to have some huge blunder because if you make
Speaker 7: a mistake, you make it double, you make a triple,
Speaker 7: and eventually the winner is the guy who doesn't make
Speaker 7: a double bogie for the week. I mean, with few exceptions.
Speaker 7: And that's why Scotty Schiffler is so unique. You know,
Speaker 7: what makes Scotty great is not any one thing. It's
Speaker 7: like what makes any great athlete. It's not any one thing.
Speaker 7: It's just a number of things. He's long, he's straight,
Speaker 7: great irons, great chipper, and he's very judicious. He's very
Speaker 7: methodical about how he plays the game. And much in
Speaker 7: the Tiger Woods or Jack Nicholas.
Speaker 2: Fain but Lindersey or has he graduated in now he's
Speaker 2: one of the great golfers of all time.
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, you know he's he got to get into
Speaker 7: rarefied air. They are five six, seven major championships, twenty
Speaker 7: five thirty thirty five, forty wins. I mean, he's he's
Speaker 7: a five year run away from you know, having that
Speaker 7: sort of moniker attached to him. I mean, this is
Speaker 7: what they look like, though, Dan on the way to
Speaker 7: being called that. They look like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm always careful because you see these guys
Speaker 2: and they're like unbelievable than all of a sudden, you go.
Speaker 3: Where did that guy go?
Speaker 5: Right right?
Speaker 7: It happened with Jordan Speak, Yes, where did that guy go?
Speaker 7: It happened with Justin Thomas. He's like, where did that
Speaker 7: guy go? Dustin Johnson? Where did that guy go? John
Speaker 7: Romm to some extent right now. And it's really hard
Speaker 7: to sustain that. And the reason I think we're inclined
Speaker 7: to say, Scottie Scheffler, it's going to be less inclined
Speaker 7: to have those big valleys is because he's not a
Speaker 7: swing tinkerer. He doesn't think that there's something better next
Speaker 7: door or somebody knows something, and he's got such a
Speaker 7: well balanced family life. I just can't see him jumping
Speaker 7: to live I can't see him jumping to swing teachers.
Speaker 7: I can't see him trying to transform his body and
Speaker 7: getting injured and all of those things. You know, those
Speaker 7: are sort of life existential hurdles. I don't think he'll
Speaker 7: be susceptible to.
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Speaker 2: can watch live for the Masters after the round is included.
Speaker 2: You look at the live guys and I wondered about coming,
Speaker 2: you know, playing that style of golf in that environment
Speaker 2: and then dialing it up to play in this And
Speaker 2: John Ram, you know, I think he played pretty well
Speaker 2: at Durrell. I think he had a couple of bad holes.
Speaker 2: Deshambo I watched him, but the difference between Deshambo and
Speaker 2: John Rahm going from Live to Augusta was what yesterday.
Speaker 7: I feel like John Ram fills extra pressure in major championships.
Speaker 7: You know, he's been criticized for being sort of a
Speaker 7: turncoat because he had critical remarks about Live initially and
Speaker 7: said he had never leave the tour than he did,
Speaker 7: so he's been a little critical. He goes over there,
Speaker 7: he plays well, and then he comes and plays poorly
Speaker 7: in the major championship. So I almost feel like there's
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure on him to perform. And Bryson,
Speaker 7: on the other hand, I feel like I feel like
Speaker 7: he uses live events to prepare for major championships. He
Speaker 7: doesn't really seem to be in him. You know, you
Speaker 7: go look and it's and it's not like he's not
Speaker 7: lighting them up. You know, this is a guy won
Speaker 7: the US Open last year, almost won three of the
Speaker 7: four major championships, and he hasn't won a live event
Speaker 7: this year, and live is nowhere near the competition that
Speaker 7: he would face the major championships. But like he really
Speaker 7: gets up for majors. He's got no pressure on him.
Speaker 7: It's like the oposit He freeze it up and gets
Speaker 7: after it.
Speaker 2: I think he's great to watch, but it feels like
Speaker 2: he's he'll take on anybody. Like he probably says I'm
Speaker 2: the best golfer in the world. He probably I don't
Speaker 2: care what Scotti Scheffler does, I'm still better than him.
Speaker 2: Like that confidence he exudes it, yeah, I mean does.
Speaker 7: It's really fun to watching. You know, he plays the
Speaker 7: game with such audacity, such he's like a gambler. On
Speaker 7: the one hand, he's like John Daily, you know, in
Speaker 7: that he he goes after everything. But on the other hand,
Speaker 7: he's like Ben Hogan. Now that you couldn't find two
Speaker 7: more incourse figures. You know, he's relentless in his pursuit
Speaker 7: of perfection. But then when he gets on the golf course,
Speaker 7: he played with absolute reckless abandon He swings at every
Speaker 7: single pitch as hard as he can. He couldn't be
Speaker 7: more different than Scotti Scheffler in the way he plays
Speaker 7: the game. But the preparation you got to tip your
Speaker 7: cap for it. He's you know, he's out there well
Speaker 7: after dark a lot of nights. When we're doing life
Speaker 7: for him, we just turn around and there's Bryson on
Speaker 7: the range getting after him.
Speaker 2: I was amazed watching your coverage last night. It's eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: He's been done for three hours or you know, two
Speaker 2: and a half hours. He's out there hammering drives. And
Speaker 2: you said there's no more daylight here. I think they have.
Speaker 2: Do they have lights on the driving range there for him?
Speaker 2: Because he was the only guy who looked like he
Speaker 2: was out there.
Speaker 7: You know, it's funny. I didn't turn around to look,
Speaker 7: but he was. He was lit like there were lights
Speaker 7: out there. I don't know that he needs lights because
Speaker 7: he's got the track man or the Quadji's squad right there.
Speaker 7: So he just hits and then looks down and that
Speaker 7: he doesn't need it. And you know, it's it's dinner
Speaker 7: time and it's bedtime.
Speaker 3: But Can you hit too many balls when you're out there?
Speaker 7: Yes, every other player in this field would say yes
Speaker 7: to that question, but not him. You know, there's a
Speaker 7: there's a there's a ball count going for the week
Speaker 7: and almost everybody. It's pretty pretty cool to watch. The
Speaker 7: first year I can remember, there's a ball count. There's
Speaker 7: a there's a group of datas, you know, statisticians that
Speaker 7: count the balls of every player out there. Data Golf.
Speaker 3: It's a good follow up on the driving range.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Dada Golf does this. So I looked at
Speaker 7: it yesterday and it had everybody listed and you know,
Speaker 7: the most balls to the lease balls hit and you
Speaker 7: go over here to the lease balls hits, and it's
Speaker 7: all the guys that are playing the best. They're not
Speaker 7: they got it. They're not looking for it. They got it.
Speaker 7: And then you know, these statisticians, they're brilliant. They do
Speaker 7: a correlation to where the fewest balls correlates to how
Speaker 7: well they're playing coming into the week, the most balls
Speaker 7: correlates to the guys they're playing except for Bryson, you know,
Speaker 7: and and he's out there hitting thousands of balls over
Speaker 7: the course of the week. You'd think you'd be sore.
Speaker 7: You'd think you'd be tired all of these things. You
Speaker 7: don't want a major championship, but he does it every
Speaker 7: dad gum day. You know, as far as I can tell,
Speaker 7: he doesn't have kids, he doesn't have a wire, he
Speaker 7: doesn't have a girlfriend. It's just hit him with those
Speaker 7: golf balls and he's like Hogan, he really is. This
Speaker 7: is something Ben Hogan would be doing.
Speaker 2: Do you hold out any hope of Tiger's return, and
Speaker 2: if so, what will he look like?
Speaker 7: You know, watching it? I don't know if you probably
Speaker 7: watched some of the TGL. It was kind of cool
Speaker 7: to watch and Tiger was swinging great in that thing.
Speaker 7: And I have had all the hope he was going
Speaker 7: to come back and play some good golf this year.
Speaker 7: Let's hope. I mean, he's going to be like this
Speaker 7: year's probably gone, so it'll be fifty before we see
Speaker 7: him again. But as we've seen with Freddy this week,
Speaker 7: you know, and as we saw with Phil Mickelson a
Speaker 7: few years ago, these guys can still play some great
Speaker 7: golf in their fifties. Tiger's ball speed when I was
Speaker 7: watching him in the TGL this year, Dan was it
Speaker 7: was almost it was close to one hundred and eighty
Speaker 7: miles an hour, and he was pushing off that right foot,
Speaker 7: which you know got mangled in that last act it.
Speaker 7: So you know, I won't I won't say no, but
Speaker 7: it's really far fest.
Speaker 2: You know, at this point, I'll leave you with this.
Speaker 2: I did a story on Byron Nelson. So when he
Speaker 2: was alive, he went down to his ranch and he
Speaker 2: couldn't swing the club anymore. You know, he was a
Speaker 2: lot older, but he wanted to hold the golf club.
Speaker 2: And so we're out on the ranch and Hogan was
Speaker 2: still alive, and I said, to uh, Byron, I said,
Speaker 2: do you think you could call Ben Hogan and I
Speaker 2: could do a feature We were doing Legends of the
Speaker 2: PGA Tour.
Speaker 3: And he looked at me.
Speaker 2: He goes, oh, no, no, And I said, but I
Speaker 2: just you know, I guess he didn't live very far
Speaker 2: from Byron. And I'm thinking, hey, if Byron would call
Speaker 2: Ben Hogan, maybe Ben Hogan would do a sit down
Speaker 2: interview with But Byron looked at me, and he's one
Speaker 2: of the nice he's a gentleman, he was one of
Speaker 2: the nicest people. And he just gave me this look
Speaker 2: like that might be the dumbest question I've heard. Nobody messages.
Speaker 2: Nobody messages with Ben, Nobody wants to call him.
Speaker 7: I commend you for the ass. Gary Player famously called
Speaker 7: him sometime, you know, after he'd won a couple of
Speaker 7: majors and said, you know, I'm having problems with this
Speaker 7: or that in my game. And Ben Hogan said, whose
Speaker 7: clubs do you play?
Speaker 5: Gary?
Speaker 7: And he said, well, I'm playing Slazenger And he said,
Speaker 7: he said, why don't you call mister Slazinger and.
Speaker 5: Asked him.
Speaker 7: He was a hard ass. Loves you to interview him,
Speaker 7: and I'd love to see if you could get him
Speaker 7: to laugh and open up, because he was. He was
Speaker 7: a tough character to crack.
Speaker 2: And people are still looking at his swing as the
Speaker 2: holding is the greatest, is the great greatest golf swing ever.
Speaker 3: Now I would put Sam Snead up there too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look Sam Steeds.
Speaker 2: Athleticism, athleticism, Sam Snead even when he was in his seventies.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, there was a sort of a lyrical charm
Speaker 7: to Sam sneed swing, you know, folks see, but with
Speaker 7: Hogan it had everything. It had powered had the geometry,
Speaker 7: it had the artistry. It was like he was Mikhail Berushnikoff.
Speaker 7: You know, it's like you just couldn't believe somebody could
Speaker 7: swing a golf club that good. Nobody today comes close
Speaker 7: to swinging a golf clothes as good as Ben Hogan.
Speaker 5: Nobody.
Speaker 7: He didn't have track, man, he didn't have a video.
Speaker 7: I don't know how he did it, Dan, I don't
Speaker 7: know how.
Speaker 3: You think it's the greatest golf swing ever.
Speaker 7: Yeah, A Tiger two thousand is the is the closest
Speaker 7: thing in my opinion. You know, that's a that's a
Speaker 7: dead heat, and I think Hogan gets him in the end.
Speaker 7: But because you know, Tiger had every asset of the game,
Speaker 7: but from a from a if you said who could
Speaker 7: you who would you most like to swing golf? Good
Speaker 7: Lord Ben Hogan. Yeah, I don't believe.
Speaker 2: I look at Hogan like Leonardo da Vinci, so ahead
Speaker 2: of his time and what he did, and Hogan did
Speaker 2: that to the golf swing, and yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 7: Know there's an issue. You can probably find this you
Speaker 7: go back and you look. You know, Hogan famously won
Speaker 7: the fifty US Open after that accident, and he tied
Speaker 7: with I'm not mistaken Lloyd Mangram, who had won the
Speaker 7: forty six years Open in George Fozia, right, two phenomenal golfers,
Speaker 7: and you go watch them tee off on the first
Speaker 7: whole of the playoffs, and you know, George hits, Lloyd
Speaker 7: Mangram hits, and then Hogan hits. And if you just
Speaker 7: were watching the video of those three golfers who are
Speaker 7: all tied in the US Open, you would think, comparatively speaking,
Speaker 7: and I don't mean this disparagingly, you would think the
Speaker 7: first two were drunks at the driving range. And then
Speaker 7: because the symmetry, the movement, the grace, the power, every
Speaker 7: movement had a purpose in Hogan swing. It's the most
Speaker 7: beautiful thing in the history of golf, no question about.
Speaker 5: That in my mind.
Speaker 3: Played ice today, I don't know, try to.
Speaker 7: Piss somebody off it, okay, I don't want to disappointed
Speaker 7: for the week.
Speaker 3: Dan, I don't know, take a shot at Nicholson.
Speaker 7: That's gotten too easy.
Speaker 2: Does he ever come up and say something to you?
Speaker 2: Did he come up and say something to you?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, we have mutual friends, good friends. His
Speaker 7: kind of best friends are kind of my good friends.
Speaker 7: And we have a time or two talked about getting
Speaker 7: together and having a you know, a powwow. It hadn't
Speaker 7: happened yet. I like Phil, you know, I like I
Speaker 7: miss his golf. I think he's a smart guy, and
Speaker 7: I think if he were setting across from me, we
Speaker 7: would have a good nature back and forth. I don't
Speaker 7: think he's bitter. I don't think he holds grudges, but
Speaker 7: you know, I miss his golf. I wish he were
Speaker 7: back here playing the tour. I wish he hadn't.
Speaker 3: Left, Yeah, because he was going to be Arnie. He
Speaker 3: was going to be and I'll.
Speaker 7: Tell you this, he would be setting in that lead
Speaker 7: chair doing commentary, killing it now and is he'd been
Speaker 7: making forty to fifty million dollars a year and he
Speaker 7: I think he'd be great in the book. He'd beat
Speaker 7: a Ryder Cup captain. Yeah, I entertaining us and all that.
Speaker 7: So I do golf misses him.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Branda, have great weekend.
Speaker 7: Thank you too. Always a pleasure to be on the.
Speaker 3: Show, Randal Shambly.
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Speaker 2: It was great great day yesterday, Brent, congratulations on going
Speaker 2: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's the Pete
Speaker 2: Rosel Radio and TV Award. I don't take any credit
Speaker 2: other than letting people reminding people that you weren't in
Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You did all the work.
Speaker 2: I just wanted people to remember all the great work
Speaker 2: you did. So congratulations, Dan, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: I know that a couple of years ago we had
Speaker 5: a conversation out at the Super Bowl in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5: I think we were on the rooftop of the Fountain
Speaker 5: Blue Hotel and you mentioned it and I wasn't even
Speaker 5: on my mind, but you you actually put it forward.
Speaker 5: And then later I'm told as I was leaving, you
Speaker 5: had Jim Nanz and Jim Nance also echoed what you
Speaker 5: had said. So I want to thank both of you.
Speaker 5: It was such an honor yesterday, and you would have
Speaker 5: got a kick out of I was honestly just brushing
Speaker 5: my teeth and my phone rang and I looked down
Speaker 5: and I said NFL Hall of Fame and I said, well,
Speaker 5: I wonder what that. So I said, hello, Brent, Coach
Speaker 5: Vermeo and I said, yeah, Coach, I said this is
Speaker 5: not your cell phone. This is a different phone. He said, congratulations,
Speaker 5: you're the winner of the Pete Rosell level and it was,
Speaker 5: you know, mind blowing. I said, listen, Dan Patrick, Jim
Speaker 5: Nantz and you coach. You're the ones who put this
Speaker 5: forward and I owe you a debt of gratitude. It was.
Speaker 5: It was great moments. I just wish Dan, irv Cross, Phyllis, George, Jimmy,
Speaker 5: the Greek. I wish they were still with us to
Speaker 5: share in this because they meant so much to the
Speaker 5: NFL today and actually this art of my career. So again,
Speaker 5: thank you so much for your platform.
Speaker 2: Well, you gave me almost an opportunity to dream because
Speaker 2: when I watched you do your show when the NFL today,
Speaker 2: I remember watching and saying, I can do that. I'm
Speaker 2: not a play by play guy. I can do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'd ever get a chance to do that. But
Speaker 2: it's the first time in my broadcasting career, or like
Speaker 2: the beginning of it, that I had a direction and
Speaker 2: you gave me that direction. And you provided a soundtrack
Speaker 2: for people's lives for fifty years, and that's the staying
Speaker 2: power is remarkable. But I thank you because you made
Speaker 2: it look like you can do. You know, you and
Speaker 2: Costas Bryant Gumbel, guys who are really good. They make
Speaker 2: a hard job look easy and that's why there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who want to do this job.
Speaker 3: And you did that.
Speaker 2: It's not easy, but you provided that soundtrack, and I'm
Speaker 2: forever grateful for that.
Speaker 5: I'm so appreciative to hear that. So many youngsters through
Speaker 5: the years Dan have come up and said, you know,
Speaker 5: I really want to get into sportscasting. I love what
Speaker 5: you do, and I would spend some time and talk
Speaker 5: them through it. But I you know, you touch a
Speaker 5: lot of lives. And I was asked yesterday anybody ever
Speaker 5: get upset with you? And I chuckled and I said,
Speaker 5: occasionally I would get a letter, a little nasty from
Speaker 5: a preacher somewhere who said that I was spoiling church
Speaker 5: attendance on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Did you get any feedback, negative feedback when you were
Speaker 2: saying you were looking live.
Speaker 5: No, it's interesting. No, everybody sort of gravitated to it
Speaker 5: without knowing how it started. And it started because my director,
Speaker 5: Bob Fishman. It was a hall of fame director. There
Speaker 5: by the way, he at a meeting of the NFL
Speaker 5: Today once early in the week, said that his father
Speaker 5: had a friend who loved to bet over unders and
Speaker 5: we were coming into November and he wanted the weather
Speaker 5: at the Durius stadiums that we were going, and we
Speaker 5: didn't have enough time. Remember the NFL Today was a
Speaker 5: half hour show. Now those pregame shows go on for days.
Speaker 5: But so well, I said, we can't do a weather report.
Speaker 5: But I said, Bob, what if? What if you give
Speaker 5: me a live picture? And we started. I think the
Speaker 5: first one, damn might have been Soldier Field in Chicago,
Speaker 5: because I know it was in November, and so we
Speaker 5: used you are looking live and it was kind of
Speaker 5: a drizzly, gloomy day at the lake front of Chicago.
Speaker 5: And so the next week at the at the meeting,
Speaker 5: Bob said, hey, my father's friend really loved that. He
Speaker 5: thought that was great, and so we went from there
Speaker 5: to two three different stadiums that we could flash around
Speaker 5: the country, and so it became the trade Bard. Honestly,
Speaker 5: the only thing I ever insisted in. Bob followed, I
Speaker 5: said it has to be live. I said, we can't
Speaker 5: tape stadium pictures and make this up. If I say
Speaker 5: you were looking live, let's do it so so so
Speaker 5: it went from there, and but no, I never I
Speaker 5: never received I don't remember Pete Roselle, who was a
Speaker 5: good front of the shows. He would come by, you know,
Speaker 5: two or three times a year when he wasn't on
Speaker 5: the roadwatching games. But I don't I don't remember Pete
Speaker 5: ever asking me specifically about but you are looking. I've
Speaker 5: just began the trademark of the show. That's how that's
Speaker 5: how we are.
Speaker 3: But you were kind of dancing around gambling without.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, oh yes, And I remember now, remember now, Jimmy,
Speaker 5: we weren't dancing, okay, we were hugging. I mean, I
Speaker 5: mean when Bob Wessler called me before year two of
Speaker 5: the NFL Today and he said, Brent, do you know
Speaker 5: a gambler by the name of Jimmy the Greek? And
Speaker 5: I did, because when I was covering baseball, I would
Speaker 5: stop off in Las Vegas and I had met the Greek.
Speaker 5: I knew him. And he said, I want to put
Speaker 5: him on the NFL today to talk about the games.
Speaker 5: And I said, that's fine, but what are we going
Speaker 5: to do? With Commissioner Roselle, and of course that led
Speaker 5: to the famous meeting that we had for about an
Speaker 5: hour down the Park Avenue NFL offices, and Roselle could
Speaker 5: not have been more favorable to what the Greek being
Speaker 5: on the show. And then when we got up to
Speaker 5: leave to go back the commissioners, Oh, by the way, listen, guys,
Speaker 5: do me a favor now when you were at a
Speaker 5: meeting with the commissioner and he says favor, we knew
Speaker 5: here came the marching order and he said, please don't
Speaker 5: use minus three plus seven minus ten on the segment.
Speaker 5: Yes sir, yes sir, you got it, even thought about it.
Speaker 5: Walk out and say, how are we going to talk
Speaker 5: about if we can't use the points spreads? Okay? So
Speaker 5: that that led to the famous checkboard with the Greek,
Speaker 5: and people would figure out if the checks were all
Speaker 5: on one team side, he made cover the spread. So
Speaker 5: so we went from there. And the only time I
Speaker 5: got in trouble after the NF we were doing the
Speaker 5: NFC of CBS then was after the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 5: The Greek would always slip me a piece of paper
Speaker 5: with the spread on the Super Bowl and I would
Speaker 5: always give it, and I'd always get the phone call
Speaker 5: on Monday. Don't you ever do that again? Oh gee,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Until the next year when you forgot again.
Speaker 5: Exactly. Yeah, you know, I always knew, honestly, if you
Speaker 5: go back to the founding of the National Football League.
Speaker 5: I mean there were people at bulb with Caama Art
Speaker 5: Rooney he gets his stake in the Pittsburgh Steelers by
Speaker 5: winning at the horse track, and even people every time
Speaker 5: I went to the Kentucky Derby, Pete Rosel was there,
Speaker 5: usually with Wellington Marraw, the owner of the JOFT. So
Speaker 5: I knew. And the underground was just full of people
Speaker 5: who like to bet on the National Football League. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm glad that it's now illegal. And obviously you have
Speaker 5: to be careful because a gambling addiction is like an
Speaker 5: alcohol addiction. You got to be careful. You got to
Speaker 5: watch people. And I try to tell you youngsters all
Speaker 5: the time, you're not going to beat it. I said,
Speaker 5: you may think you are, but you're not. I said,
Speaker 5: do you want to do it for recreation as I do?
Speaker 5: I said, go ahead and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: If I would have told you nineteen seventy five. Hey, Brent,
Speaker 2: you're going to be a Hall of Famer and gambling
Speaker 2: is going to be embraced by all sports. What would
Speaker 2: you have thought that we've gotten to this point that
Speaker 2: gambling is now in place. It's it's almost like you're
Speaker 2: guilted in if you don't gamble on things.
Speaker 5: I'm would have thought you were crazy. Okay, let's tell
Speaker 5: you the truth. I uh, both instance. But I never
Speaker 5: got into this, you know, dreaming about Hall of Fames.
Speaker 5: I went to Canton early in the NFL career to
Speaker 5: shoot a segment for it, but I never dreamed about
Speaker 5: about going in a and the gambling. I guess I
Speaker 5: always thought it had a chance to be legal, but
Speaker 5: I didn't realize how sports were going to embrace it.
Speaker 5: And you're so right. I talk to people all the time.
Speaker 5: I mean, think about ESPN, which did not exist when
Speaker 5: the NFL today started. I mean, we didn't have cable
Speaker 5: television like we have. If you go up, I was
Speaker 5: watching last night, like a lot of people are watching.
Speaker 5: In the bottom line. You know, there were NBA spreads
Speaker 5: and over unders were coming under and I smile when
Speaker 5: I see it because I was so provoting back in
Speaker 5: the seventies and now it's just part of the coach
Speaker 5: And I think, Dan, that's a good thing because I
Speaker 5: think it'll just kind of be accepted and go on
Speaker 5: its own way down the road.
Speaker 2: To tell you the truth, I was wondering if you
Speaker 2: could get Joe Namath to introduce you at the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. I mean, you were there when he made
Speaker 2: his big proclamation. Oh yeah, and then they were going
Speaker 2: to win Super Bowl three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great. It was you know you were talking
Speaker 5: about stadiums. Yeah, and the old Orange Bowl. I think
Speaker 5: for me, the stadiums always stand out where I have
Speaker 5: memories of what happened there. Okay, and Super Bowl three
Speaker 5: was was really something because earlier in that week we'd
Speaker 5: gone to Fort Lauderdale and the Bellman sold this Joe
Speaker 5: Namath was out back and there were a handful of us.
Speaker 5: I was a writer then, and I also worked at BBM,
Speaker 5: the CBS radio station, and we went out back and
Speaker 5: there was Joe in a lounge chair, the famous picture
Speaker 5: with you know, there was a lady behind him getting
Speaker 5: an autograph, and people came up and wished him good luck.
Speaker 5: And I tell people it wasn't braggadocio. It wasn't. It
Speaker 5: wasn't like, oh, I guarant it was just kind of a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, and we're going to win the game.
Speaker 5: I guarantee it. And it was just kind of thrown out,
Speaker 5: to tell you the truth. It did not become a
Speaker 5: big story until after the fact. Dave Anderson, great Columns
Speaker 5: of the New York Times, was with me at a country
Speaker 5: club that Joe spoke at, believe it or not, on
Speaker 5: Friday night. He was a guest of honor and he
Speaker 5: repeated it and it was Dave who And it was
Speaker 5: such a small story in the Times, and now it
Speaker 5: has become it has become bigger than life. But as
Speaker 5: for the game itself, Okay, I was upstairs. It had
Speaker 5: a prespass, but I was in the photographer's box. But
Speaker 5: guess who was next to me. Howard Cosell giving me
Speaker 5: the flay by plane of the had I was the
Speaker 5: one man audience for Howard Cosell at Super Bowl three.
Speaker 5: And of course he hated the NFC because the NFC
Speaker 5: would not lie, and he loved the AFL. That was
Speaker 5: that was his dream. So he was so proud of Joe.
Speaker 5: Willie name us I'll tell you. You know, he called
Speaker 5: me mush. I was thinking, Mush, I'll tell you he's
Speaker 5: the best.
Speaker 2: So but that's that's one of the iconic moments in
Speaker 2: NFL history. Like when you think about it, what it became.
Speaker 2: You know, then you had guys who started to guarantee things.
Speaker 2: Then it became almost like commonplace where somebody was like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to win, do you guarantee it?
Speaker 3: You know, I guarantee it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It was in the footsteps of Joe Willing.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, and I'll tell you Dan, that game to
Speaker 5: me meant more to the merger than anything.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 5: Now, Al Davis meant a lot to the merger because
Speaker 5: he started signing quarterbacks who were in the NFL, and
Speaker 5: when the George Hallises of the world saw what it
Speaker 5: was going to cost them, they also made a move
Speaker 5: toward merging. But once Joe Namas you know, I mean
Speaker 5: remember now to Greek and Las Vegas made the Baltimore
Speaker 5: coltson eighteen point favorite eighteen point favorite in that game,
Speaker 5: I mean, I let that sink in right now with everybody.
Speaker 5: Didn't you have you know, I did not bet the
Speaker 5: game and I never I never I don't think I
Speaker 5: always thought the Colts were going to win. Listen, I
Speaker 5: was a Bears guy, Okay, I mean I covered him
Speaker 5: and knew the Hallas that I kind of looked down
Speaker 5: a little bit at the AFL. You know, I was
Speaker 5: kind of one of the establishment reporters back in the day,
Speaker 5: and so I really thought the Colts were gonna win.
Speaker 5: I don't think I would have given eighteen points, but
Speaker 5: as it turns out, the better of the year would
Speaker 5: have been a Willy Name and the Jets.
Speaker 2: My friend, congratulations again and good luck with Thank you
Speaker 2: v's in the sports betting network that you've been that
Speaker 2: you co founded there, but uh, long time coming. Glad
Speaker 2: to play any role in this, but once again, thank
Speaker 2: you for being a friend.
Speaker 9: Oh, by the way, the Gators did well in your pool,
Speaker 9: Yes they did. You won the contest, you won the bracket.
Speaker 9: Is that more important than going into the Pro Football
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame?
Speaker 5: For me? It's whatever. Thank you, Thank you so much, Dan,
Speaker 5: Thanks thanks for all your help.
Speaker 3: Thank you buddy. That's Brent Musburg.