Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome once again to Dirt from the Dugout.
Speaker 1: I'm Carl Ravitsch along with my good buddy Justin Musel.
Speaker 1: We consider this a special College World Series edition of
Speaker 1: Dirt from the Dugout. As I am in Omaha, Nebraska
Speaker 1: covering the College World Series Justin. It has been exactly
Speaker 1: what you would expect it to be a phenomenal event.
Speaker 1: And you know, now we're starting to see teams leave.
Speaker 1: We lost Ole Miss already and we're beginning to get
Speaker 1: into elimination games. My goodness, what a showcase for college baseball,
Speaker 1: What a showcase for baseball in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, you obviously get to live it every year, right,
Speaker 3: so it's cool to it's cool to be a part
Speaker 3: of it and see it. And you know this, but
Speaker 3: the energy, I feel like in the intensity Ravvy over
Speaker 3: the last five to ten years has really really taken
Speaker 3: a step up with each game, each pitch. It just
Speaker 3: feels like when you watch it, you're just kind of
Speaker 3: gripped by the emotion, the intensity. And I love that, man.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you get to be a part of it.
Speaker 3: But it's been a great ride so far. Man, It's
Speaker 3: it's been a great World Series so far, and the
Speaker 3: best is yet to come, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And by the way, please get
Speaker 1: your questions into our guest today who is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people on the planet out there. He does
Speaker 1: such a great job covering the college World Series and
Speaker 1: you can ask your questions into the YouTube chat. Our
Speaker 1: guest is none other than Chris Burke, a former Tennessee volunteer,
Speaker 1: superstar Major League Baseball player, runs his own clinic in Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Let's bring Burkeie in right now so he can spend
Speaker 1: the next half hour chatting with him about what's going
Speaker 1: on in the world of baseball there. He is, my guy, Berkie,
Speaker 1: thanks for doing this.
Speaker 4: Really appreciate it. Yeah, let's do it. Let's chop it up.
Speaker 4: I'm in.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Say how to my friend Justin Mussel Justine in the
Speaker 1: recruiting world he's in, he's in the baseball development world,
Speaker 1: and you guys will have a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nice, nice to see you, Burkee. We appreciate you happing
Speaker 3: on here with us, buddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my pleasure, my pleasure.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, Berkeie, I think one of
Speaker 1: the things that one of the things that stands out
Speaker 1: to me about covering college baseball College World Series, we
Speaker 1: got a team like West Virginia here who just had
Speaker 1: JJ Weatherhole played for them. The almost immediate impact that
Speaker 1: some of these guys schemes is another one in the
Speaker 1: list is pretty long, But the immediate impact that kids
Speaker 1: from college can have at the next highest level, major
Speaker 1: League Baseball, I think speaks to the talent level and
Speaker 1: all the things going on in the world of college
Speaker 1: baseball that they can kind of graduate and then have
Speaker 1: a big impact at the major league level. Is that
Speaker 1: a change over what you've seen the last fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty years.
Speaker 4: Definitely.
Speaker 5: I think the velocity of the college game is such
Speaker 5: that it used to be when I was When I
Speaker 5: came out of Tennessee, you had to get used to
Speaker 5: the wooden bat, You had to get used to the
Speaker 5: velocity right.
Speaker 4: And then you had to.
Speaker 5: Your eyes were open to a world that felt much bigger.
Speaker 5: International players, I think the coaching voices were way less unified.
Speaker 5: So you went from a college program where you were like, okay,
Speaker 5: I have really just like two people maybe that kind
Speaker 5: of even spoke hitting at all, and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, you get into pro ball, and you had
Speaker 5: your coach on your team, you had a roving instructor,
Speaker 5: you had the level that you moved up to. Then
Speaker 5: you get to the big leagues and there's like, like
Speaker 5: the big league coach and the roven instructor might not
Speaker 5: even see eye to eye, and.
Speaker 4: So it was like it was just way less system driven. Now.
Speaker 5: I think these kids they grow up, a lot of
Speaker 5: them by the time they're twelve to fourteen years old,
Speaker 5: there's a potential for them to have really high level
Speaker 5: education in their niche of the sport starting at that age.
Speaker 5: They get to college, and you see some of these
Speaker 5: young players in college, like Bravin you and I called
Speaker 5: Kaden Glabor last night, like that, dude's ready to compete today.
Speaker 1: JJ Weatherhole, he's in high school. Three months ago, he's
Speaker 1: in high Yeah.
Speaker 5: Gavin Kelly was ready to compete the second he walked
Speaker 5: on a campus at West West Virginia.
Speaker 4: So you get some not everybody, but you get some
Speaker 4: of these kids.
Speaker 5: That it feels like they are way ahead of the curve,
Speaker 5: and so like at Gavin Kelly, He's proven himself so
Speaker 5: much at so many different levels, that you're like, Okay,
Speaker 5: that kid's probably like JJ weatherhol he's probably gonna need
Speaker 5: a few hundred at bats and he's gonna be in
Speaker 5: a big league lineup because he's just he's been educated
Speaker 5: at such a high level, he's been trained at such
Speaker 5: a high level.
Speaker 4: That what else do you need him to prove?
Speaker 5: Like, stay healthy, check a few boxes, and here's the
Speaker 5: major league. So I do think, Plus, you've you've hit
Speaker 5: with wooden bats on the circuit, you've hit with BB
Speaker 5: corn bats in college, and like, oh, missus staff average
Speaker 5: fastballs now three and a half, So you didn't you
Speaker 5: don't get to Pro Bowl and go, wow, these guys
Speaker 5: are throwing hard. You've already you've already kind of checked
Speaker 5: you know how to hit velocity already. And so I
Speaker 5: just I do think the learning curve to to land
Speaker 5: in the big leagues is shorter now. To stay in
Speaker 5: the big leagues is.
Speaker 4: Always good for always going to be at.
Speaker 1: That one good answer, let me check, let me remind you, Burkey.
Speaker 1: So we got thirty minutes for the podcast. Brevity is
Speaker 1: really key on the podcast. And Musel was so excited
Speaker 1: about everything you just said. He's gonna have fifty questions
Speaker 1: to ask you.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll rapid fire best that came.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, man, this is Brookie. I appreciate the
Speaker 3: insight there, I think for mine. I was talking with
Speaker 3: a minor league last week and kind of going to
Speaker 3: this conversation. I was talking to him about his adjustment.
Speaker 3: He played in the Big twelve. You guys would know him.
Speaker 3: But anyways, we were we were chopping up a little
Speaker 3: bit and he said, Hey, the biggest thing, the biggest
Speaker 3: difference for me right now is the secondary stuff. And
Speaker 3: so he's kind of learning that side of it where
Speaker 3: he's like, man, I'm just seeing like ninety ninety one
Speaker 3: mile Hollars sliders like day after day, Like that wasn't
Speaker 3: an everyday thing. So I think in general, though we
Speaker 3: as we were kind of finishing this conversation off though Burkey,
Speaker 3: his point was is like, the adjustment isn't that big
Speaker 3: of a difference, as you're saying, and now you're seeing
Speaker 3: guys climb so quickly. In general, do you think that
Speaker 3: that trend continues as we go along here? Do you
Speaker 3: think it becomes easier and easier because the talent level
Speaker 3: at the college level is so good and the coaching
Speaker 3: is so good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that, And I also think I really
Speaker 5: believe this. I think the organizations are much more progressive
Speaker 5: in how they view what a player needs to prove
Speaker 5: to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree to move up a level. I can
Speaker 4: remember I was, I was.
Speaker 5: I was ready mentally and physically to move And the
Speaker 5: Astros were real big on like two thousand at bats,
Speaker 5: you know, and you're like, okay, you know, And so
Speaker 5: that was just the way some of those Hey you
Speaker 5: have to have this many innings, you have to have
Speaker 5: this many bats. I just don't think clubs live in
Speaker 5: that world anymore. Like, you look good right now, you
Speaker 5: did well at double A. Here's a month of triple A.
Speaker 5: Here's the big leagues. I mean, Connor Griffin would have
Speaker 5: never you know, the counter Griffin, the schemes, the brave Montgomery's, Like,
Speaker 5: these guys are just weather Hold. They don't They're not
Speaker 5: being forced to prove themselves at an entire level for
Speaker 5: five hundred bats.
Speaker 2: Yept about it. Here.
Speaker 1: What we do on the show, Brookie is we get
Speaker 1: questions from our teammates. So on the parent dugout and
Speaker 1: one of them will take us a little off track.
Speaker 1: Of where we're going, but it is you hit one
Speaker 1: of the most iconic walkoff homers in postseason history in
Speaker 1: the NLDS and O five. Not that you've ever been
Speaker 1: asked about this, but what was going through your head
Speaker 1: leading up to that at bat Dom?
Speaker 4: Thanks for the question.
Speaker 5: Never a bad day when I get to talk about that,
Speaker 5: But I will tell you what was going through my mind.
Speaker 5: I was going to bunt on Chipper Jones. Chipper Jones
Speaker 5: had been playing third base for six hours. They had,
Speaker 5: you know, Joey Devine through ninety five from over here
Speaker 5: with a crazy, nasty sweeper, and I didn't really care
Speaker 5: too much to stand in there on that. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: lay down a bunch, see if I can steal second base.
Speaker 5: Maybe somebody scores me with a single, And so I
Speaker 5: went up there ready to bunt, actually show bunt. He
Speaker 5: throws a big sweeper to the backstop. So then I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, I'm a head and the count. This guy
Speaker 5: throws an arm side fastball that has a lot of run.
Speaker 5: Maybe he makes a mistake and I can hit one
Speaker 5: in the crawl forord boxes. He almost hits me with
Speaker 5: the one oh pitch, So now my eyes are really
Speaker 5: focused on the inner third of the plate and he
Speaker 5: throws a sinker. That's up enough, and I kept it fair.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's funny when a play comes together. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the rest is history, but the truth is what was
Speaker 5: going through my mind. I was trying to bunt my
Speaker 5: way on to start that.
Speaker 1: That's a funny story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Farthest thing from your was the home run. Right.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean not just get all nerdy and sound
Speaker 5: all sophisticated, but we talked about what keeps you in
Speaker 5: the big leagues. Your playing evolves. I'm gonna bump my
Speaker 5: way on. Well, now I'm a head and the cow.
Speaker 5: This is a picture. If it was a left handed
Speaker 5: seeker baller, I wouldn't have been thinking about hitting a
Speaker 5: home run. But a right handed armside run guy, I
Speaker 5: get hit a ball in the Crawford boxes off that guy. So,
Speaker 5: like you know, there's a lot of things going on there.
Speaker 5: But the plan evolves as the bad evolves. Raby and
Speaker 5: I talk about it all the time throughout the course
Speaker 5: of the game. Approaches and guys taking big swings and
Speaker 5: then adjusting, and so that's all part of it.
Speaker 4: And it's nice when it comes together in a big moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, awesome stuff. Raviy.
Speaker 3: Let's get to this next one here, because I love
Speaker 3: this question too. So it's from Mark, which teammate from
Speaker 3: your playing days, was the most talented player you ever
Speaker 3: shared a feel with.
Speaker 4: Well, I was really fortunate to play with some unbelievable pitchers.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: In Houston we had Oswalt Pettitt and Clements.
Speaker 5: Brad Lynche was probably the nastiest thing going out of
Speaker 5: the bullpen at that period of time. And then I
Speaker 5: get traded to Arizona and I get to play with
Speaker 5: Brandon Webb, Dan Herron and Randy Johnson. So I got
Speaker 5: to play with Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens, which sometimes
Speaker 5: I just like I had to pinch myself, Like that's
Speaker 5: two of the three best strike guy guys in the
Speaker 5: history of our sport. I was teammates with those people,
Speaker 5: so that was really cool to watch that. Uh.
Speaker 4: And then I get then I go to San Diego.
Speaker 5: I got to play with Jake Peevee, so I played
Speaker 5: with some incredible like Hall of Fame cy young level pitchers. Uh.
Speaker 5: From A and then in Houston, my first year in Houston,
Speaker 5: we had Jeff Kent, Carlos Beltron, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Bigio,
Speaker 5: and Lance Berkman.
Speaker 4: We didn't make the World Series. Pretty good team.
Speaker 5: You walk into the Clubhous, You're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: look at these people.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: That was that was really incredible. And so who's in
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame? Is Beltron in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He's getting He's gonna get it in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: He's gonna get all with bad Wells in the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame, videos in the Hall of Fame. Kent's in
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. And Berkman wasn't right, Kent is
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame, isn't he?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And you had Burt Kent, Jeff Kent, is Jeff
Speaker 4: Kin in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You didn't he just get in? Yeah? And then then
Speaker 4: Lance Burtman's a Hall of Fame hitter.
Speaker 5: I don't care what anybody says, like pure hit tool.
Speaker 5: Lance might be the best of that whole group. Maybe,
Speaker 5: And so anyway, it's like, Wow, that's five Hall of
Speaker 5: Fame hitters on one team. So to watch all those
Speaker 5: guys and they all did it different was really fun
Speaker 5: At a young age. I was analytical enough to nerd
Speaker 5: out a little bit as much as you can at
Speaker 5: twenty four years old. But Berkman's the one of that
Speaker 5: group that I got to play with the longest, who
Speaker 5: was also in the peak of his career, and Lance
Speaker 5: was just he had a year in six and I
Speaker 5: know I'm supposed to be brief, so I'll leave it
Speaker 5: at this. He hit forty five and drove in one
Speaker 5: thirty seven, and I think our next highest RBI guy
Speaker 5: had like sixty five.
Speaker 1: And the rest of your team is what it does, correct.
Speaker 4: But I remember telling Kirchin your boy, Kirchin Rabbi.
Speaker 5: I was like, has a guy ever had that many
Speaker 5: more home RBIs on one team than the next closest guy?
Speaker 4: Like That's so I was fortunate that, you know, I
Speaker 4: played with a lot of Hall of famers.
Speaker 5: I didn't play, I didn't play in the big leagues
Speaker 5: for a crazy long period of time, but I was
Speaker 5: fortunate to play with some legends of the sport.
Speaker 4: And that's pretty cool to think about.
Speaker 1: All Right, So we do this podcast and this live
Speaker 1: show really for parents of players, and there's other questions
Speaker 1: here from Melanie and Royce and Don. We'll get to
Speaker 1: those in a second. I it occurred to me when
Speaker 1: you talked about the great pictures that you then joined,
Speaker 1: you also had to face them from a parent perspective.
Speaker 1: When a sun is facing a dude like that, maybe six',
Speaker 1: five and you can tell their their may be an
Speaker 1: intimidation factor as a. Parent what do you find to
Speaker 1: be the best advice you could give to having to
Speaker 1: deal with The Roger clemens Of Little league Or Travel
Speaker 1: league Or Randy? Johnson how do you do? It and
Speaker 1: what do you?
Speaker 5: Say, yeah such a great. QUESTION i had this with
Speaker 5: my thirteen year old last. Night you, Know i'm walking
Speaker 5: out of the, Stadium, reveu you saw.
Speaker 4: ME i was on the.
Speaker 5: Phone, Yeah i'm getting the low down from my thirteen
Speaker 5: year old who was up In indianapolis playing this. Weekend
Speaker 5: and he was telling me he was playing fifty four to,
Speaker 5: eighty meaning the mounds fifty four, feet the bases are eighty.
Speaker 5: Feet that's the level of ball they're playing this. Weekend
Speaker 5: thirteen you and he faced the kid throwing seventy nine
Speaker 5: from fifty four. Feet well that's that's like eighty eight
Speaker 5: miles an, hour you, Know AND i was, like, awesome
Speaker 5: how to. Go he's, like, WELL i got jammed my
Speaker 5: first at bat and my second of, BAT i had
Speaker 5: a ten pitch of. BAT i ended up flying out
Speaker 5: and honestly reve like he had some true he had
Speaker 5: an awesome. Weekend that's the BAT i care the most.
Speaker 5: About so WHAT i would tell the parents is there's
Speaker 5: a fear of failure that is inherent to just being,
Speaker 5: human any walk of, life anything you're trying to achieve
Speaker 5: that if you want to be good at whatever it
Speaker 5: is that you're, pursuing the truth is you have to
Speaker 5: then be good against those that are the best in that.
Speaker 5: Field so you Really Roger clements taught me. This we
Speaker 5: were playing golf on an off. Day we're going To
Speaker 5: New york to Face. Pedro he's, like who's pitching tomorrow
Speaker 5: for The.
Speaker 4: METS i was Like.
Speaker 5: PEDRO i kind of said it like This, pedro and he,
Speaker 5: goes what an opportunity you get to face The hall
Speaker 5: Of famer.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow And i'm like.
Speaker 5: Yeah he's, like, bro like you think the pressure's on.
Speaker 5: You the pressure's On, pedro like he's supposed to get you.
Speaker 5: Out And you're, like what a great lens to view it.
Speaker 1: Through and the Good.
Speaker 5: The reality, is if you ever want to play this
Speaker 5: game at a high, level you better be able to
Speaker 5: at least learn to feel comfortable against extreme. Velocity so
Speaker 5: WHAT i would just tell you as a parent when
Speaker 5: your kid faces that, kid encourage them that number, one
Speaker 5: the pressures on the, pitcher not the. Hitter the sport
Speaker 5: is slanted in the pitcher's favor to begin. With and number,
Speaker 5: two enjoy the battle of facing somebody that's really really.
Speaker 5: Good because if if you actually want to play this,
Speaker 5: game then you're gonna have to learn how to do.
Speaker 5: That so what a great opportunity you get to face
Speaker 5: a kid throwing crazy hard little. League dig your heels,
Speaker 5: in let's go have a fun at, bat and however it,
Speaker 5: goes we've, learned we've learned.
Speaker 3: Something, YEAH i want TO i want to follow up on, That.
Speaker 3: Burkey so you have the flip side, Too AND i
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of elite players that they that
Speaker 3: can get themselves up for a big at bat against
Speaker 3: a really good. Arm, right it's almost easier for them
Speaker 3: to lock, in, right that that's what they're looking forward.
Speaker 3: To and then the opposite is, true where maybe it's
Speaker 3: the kid that isn't as good on the mound that
Speaker 3: they're not as excited about and they're losing that. Focus
Speaker 3: what is your what is your advice to consistency between
Speaker 3: facing the elite arms that you can maybe lock in,
Speaker 3: against that you know that you have to run up,
Speaker 3: against and maybe the guys that you know are throwing
Speaker 3: a little Slower for a high school kid or a youth,
Speaker 3: kid what's your advice to stay consistent in that great?
Speaker 5: Question so two THINGS i would really dive in on.
Speaker 5: Their Number, one if the slow pitchers were hard to,
Speaker 5: hit they'd throw slow in the big. Leagues so every
Speaker 5: high SCHOOL i deal with them all the. Time the
Speaker 5: kid was thrown so, SLOW i couldn't hit. Him i'm,
Speaker 5: like you, know that's like a pro basketball player saying
Speaker 5: the guy was so short and non, ATHLETIC i couldn't
Speaker 5: score on.
Speaker 4: Him, like. Don't i'm not here for.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 5: Don't if slow pitchers were hard to, hit college coaches
Speaker 5: would be recruiting slow. Pitchers So i'm not here for.
Speaker 5: That lock, in make, adjustments like figure out a way
Speaker 5: to get that right to have. Success the second thing,
Speaker 5: is you, KNOW, ravi he was. KIND i had a
Speaker 5: good Career tennessee you don't put together seasons by locking
Speaker 5: in for a pitcher one. Night if you want to
Speaker 5: have a great, year Like Daniel jackson's the star of
Speaker 5: our sport this. Year people somehow want to knock him
Speaker 5: because he hit five home runs in a weekend Against Northern. Colorado, like,
Speaker 5: no that's a great player who shows up for every,
Speaker 5: game every abat regardless of who's across from. Him he
Speaker 5: had three to ninety in THE sec Two, like he
Speaker 5: checked that. Box, also do you see What i'm. Saying
Speaker 5: so WHAT i would tell a kid is and everything's.
Speaker 5: Relative if you want to have a great season in
Speaker 5: the major, leagues Like Aaron, judge doesn't just rise up
Speaker 5: against a, Bit like he's locked in every. Day and
Speaker 5: if you want to be good at anything as a
Speaker 5: career in, life you better learn how to lock into
Speaker 5: what's in front of you that day and don't make
Speaker 5: excuses on either end of the. Spectrum the guy was too.
Speaker 5: GOOD i couldn't hit. Him the guy's. STUNK i wasn't, Focused, like,
Speaker 5: well good luck to. You that's probably gonna hit a
Speaker 5: ceiling or a wall at some point your.
Speaker 1: Career, yeah not a good. Look And Daniel jackson is
Speaker 1: supposed to go and hit five runs Against Northern. Colorado.
Speaker 1: Right next question here For MELANIE burkei we saw you
Speaker 1: were the tenth pick in the first round in one national,
Speaker 1: player semi finalist or finalist. One you led him to
Speaker 1: The College World. Series what do you remember most about that?
Speaker 1: Run for the volunteers, MAN i really appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Question the memory that sticks with me absolutely the most
Speaker 5: Was East Carolina game.
Speaker 4: Two of The Super.
Speaker 5: Regional they DECIDED i got two hits in my first
Speaker 5: two at, bats and they decided to intentionally walk me
Speaker 5: my next three at, bats and it loaded the bases
Speaker 5: for the guy who's hidden behind.
Speaker 4: Me and his Named Stevie.
Speaker 5: Daniel we were played up the middle together for three straight,
Speaker 5: years hit one and two for three straight. Years he
Speaker 5: struck out looking both at bats the first two times
Speaker 5: they intentionally walked.
Speaker 4: Me the third, time he GETS o, two AND i promise.
Speaker 5: YOU i looked at our first base coach AND i, Said,
Speaker 5: beemer if he strikes out looking, here there might be
Speaker 5: a fight in the dugout like.
Speaker 4: THIS i. Can't we're not doing this.
Speaker 5: Anymore stevie hits a grand slam on AN o two
Speaker 5: count and rav we cover, it we see. It there
Speaker 5: is nothing more important to college baseball player than getting no.
Speaker 5: More AND i just got goosebumps telling you the. STORY
Speaker 5: i could feel it through my Long sley. SHIRT i
Speaker 5: was running around the. Bases we're going To, omaha LIKE
Speaker 5: i we are the home.
Speaker 4: Team it's that. Rare you're the home team in game
Speaker 4: two of a super And i'm running around the.
Speaker 5: Bases We're we're now six to two and we need
Speaker 5: three outs to go To.
Speaker 4: Omo like this is real.
Speaker 5: Life we're gonna play in The College World, series AND,
Speaker 5: i you, KNOW i had a good year and all those,
Speaker 5: things but, LIKE i love telling that story About stevie
Speaker 5: because the truth, is my favorite moment of my college
Speaker 5: career was somebody else hitting. Up we're going To College World, series,
Speaker 5: Bro and that's what all that stuff.
Speaker 1: For so, yeah, right that's.
Speaker 2: Great that's.
Speaker 3: Awesome So, REVY i don't know if you even caught,
Speaker 3: this but we had Another Dan herron reference in.
Speaker 2: It back to back.
Speaker 3: Weeks, man we're going we got we Got dan Dan
Speaker 3: haring on us chet chet chatting About Dan.
Speaker 4: Haring pete dropped out on.
Speaker 3: You, YEAH Britti patroya was over twenty eight of. Heron so,
Speaker 3: Yeah so so that was his guy that he just couldn't.
Speaker 2: Hit so it just happens to.
Speaker 1: Bring up and HARN.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna, Say Dan harron was like seventy
Speaker 4: on the pitch ability. Scale he. Had, yeah he was
Speaker 4: one of the artists of his.
Speaker 1: Time so for for For droya and for the purpose
Speaker 1: of our, conversation when he comes back and, say, GEEZ
Speaker 1: i cannot Hit Dan, Herron it's not LIKE i can't
Speaker 1: hit allows you, PICTURE i can't hit one of the best.
Speaker 1: Pictures and Then, haron by the, way made that thing
Speaker 1: go viral on social media because he picked right up
Speaker 1: on What pedroya said and wasn't share.
Speaker 5: That over twenty eight THAT i didn't know pedroy was
Speaker 5: capable of going over twenty eight against.
Speaker 3: Me, kisson, right, Yeah ricky speaking of that, though what you,
Speaker 3: know what were some of the things that were the
Speaker 3: most challenging.
Speaker 2: For you as a hitter the pictures that you. Faced
Speaker 2: what were some of the things that you didn't like to?
Speaker 3: See was an, armslot a certain, way a certain type of,
Speaker 3: pitch was it a? Splitty was there something that really
Speaker 3: like when you'd see the other you, know the opposing
Speaker 3: picture that had something really good or something unique that
Speaker 3: you really struggled with or had it was more challenging
Speaker 3: for you as a.
Speaker 4: Hitter, YEAH i think Like zambrano, WAS i don't know
Speaker 4: what my. NUMBER i THINK i got one hit off of.
Speaker 4: Them carlos Zan brono, was he was just a.
Speaker 5: Problem and so anytime you get armside run at extreme
Speaker 5: velocities with the ability to turn the ball the other,
Speaker 5: direction it just constantly wars with your ability to hang
Speaker 5: in there because you're, like IF i hang in there too,
Speaker 5: Long i'm gonna be eating the barrel because he's gonna
Speaker 5: saw me. Off and IF i speed, up he's gonna
Speaker 5: make me look ridiculous on some crazy horizontal. Sweeper and
Speaker 5: so each each at bad is just this which one
Speaker 5: AM i gonna try to?
Speaker 4: Cover?
Speaker 5: DO i want to be uber aggressive like you just
Speaker 5: you're In and so the that's why programs and major
Speaker 5: league clubs want guys that throw, out because it makes
Speaker 5: hitters make decisions that are. Uncomfortable and if you can
Speaker 5: shape the ball two different directions at extreme velocities like
Speaker 5: it just it gives you a ton to. Cover and
Speaker 5: Then Zan bruno also had that like big kid In little,
Speaker 5: league like kind of, bully Like i'm kind of here
Speaker 5: to steal your lunch money vibe, too and so he
Speaker 5: was not fun for, me but typically just in general
Speaker 5: rieties from a lower slot that could speed you up
Speaker 5: and shape it two different. Ways those, guys those guys
Speaker 5: gave me.
Speaker 1: Trouble we just saw a kid and you probably saw it.
Speaker 1: Too Joey voltsko pitch the other night For, georgia who's
Speaker 1: got sort of a tan or how free quarter armslot
Speaker 1: and nobody actually hit him at. All he had fifteen
Speaker 1: strikeouts and through a complete, game he was. Incredible, bertie
Speaker 1: here's one for. You Roy schultz asked the, question And
Speaker 1: i'm going to kind of add to his, question but he,
Speaker 1: said you played second short outfield pretty much. Everywhere talk
Speaker 1: about how versatility in the game helps, players and also
Speaker 1: that that maybe versatility is derived from playing more than
Speaker 1: just one sport as you grow, up AND i know. That,
Speaker 1: YEAH i know that's a that's sort of a touch
Speaker 1: tone for.
Speaker 4: You, yeah it's a great it's a great.
Speaker 5: Question and revenue you hit it like good athletes are
Speaker 5: comfortable in athletic, settings and so the more you do different.
Speaker 4: Things challenge your body in different.
Speaker 5: Ways, uh the, more the more that's gonna help you
Speaker 5: in whatever sport you end up specializing in at a later.
Speaker 5: Age and so for, ME i, was you, KNOW i
Speaker 5: grew UP i played, baseball, basketball, football uh competitively until high,
Speaker 5: school and then in high SCHOOL i only played basketball and,
Speaker 5: baseball BUT i also played golf my whole. Life SO
Speaker 5: i feel LIKE i was getting these really well rounded
Speaker 5: experiences of mental, game physical, stuff physical, toughness mental, toughness spatial, awareness,
Speaker 5: speed and. Agility you face different types of, Challenges you
Speaker 5: have different types of coaches that challenge you and encourage
Speaker 5: you and inspire you in different.
Speaker 4: Ways you're faced with different.
Speaker 5: Environments the intensity of A friday night high school basketball
Speaker 5: game helps you deal with. Pressure stand at the free throw.
Speaker 5: Line you, know my trival in high, school we played
Speaker 5: them in A nation game in the, postseason AND i
Speaker 5: had to make four free throws down the. Stretch like
Speaker 5: EVERYBODY i knew in the world was in that, gym
Speaker 5: like he couldn't have been.
Speaker 4: BIGGER i.
Speaker 5: DON'T i don't Think i've had a bat bigger in
Speaker 5: my life in any stage than those four free, throws you,
Speaker 5: know and so it's like those things all help. You
Speaker 5: and then WHEN i got to the big, Leagues Phil gardner's, like,
Speaker 5: hey can you play the? Outfield AND i was, like,
Speaker 5: Actually TEAM, usa what if we put you in the.
Speaker 5: Outfield this is after my second year in. COLLEGE i
Speaker 5: could do.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 5: SURE i grew up catching fly balls from my dad
Speaker 5: because before you played eight thousand, games you wanted to play,
Speaker 5: baseball but there were no. Where there was nowhere to,
Speaker 5: play so your dad take you to the field and
Speaker 5: hit fly. Balls AND i remember my brother was a.
Speaker 5: Catcher my dad was an old college. Coach he would
Speaker 5: try to hit sky high pop ups to my brother
Speaker 5: because my dad actually just enjoyed hitting.
Speaker 4: Them, well when.
Speaker 5: He would miss hit, THEM i would be out playing,
Speaker 5: shortstop so when he would miss h, them they would
Speaker 5: turn into crazy high fly. Balls well Then i'm running
Speaker 5: down these fly balls when he miss hits him and
Speaker 5: when he hits them. Perfect my brother's catching pop. Ups
Speaker 5: SO i spent my whole life catching fly. Balls so
Speaker 5: when they sent me the, outfield it was LIKE i
Speaker 5: could go do. That, so uh, yeah the infield piece was. Easy,
Speaker 5: YES i spent my whole life playing, infield but the
Speaker 5: outfield PIECE i took two really quickly for a lot of,
Speaker 5: REASONS i, think but one of them is like catching
Speaker 5: fly balls was not foreign.
Speaker 4: To me BECAUSE i had done it kind of organically growing.
Speaker 3: Up, yeah, yep, yeah let's uh, YEAH i appreciate, That.
Speaker 3: BURKIYE i THINK i think when you when you look
Speaker 3: at the versatility.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 3: UH i always tell this to, kids like you just
Speaker 3: want to be, versatile like understand the game at different, Positions.
Speaker 3: BURKEYE i want TO i want to touch on this
Speaker 3: really quickly here and then we'll get to the last
Speaker 3: question then move to the kitchen. Sink but when you
Speaker 3: talk about versatility and understanding the, game can you talk
Speaker 3: about the value for the high school and youth player
Speaker 3: to understand how to play shortstop then maybe understand how
Speaker 3: to play a second or understand a third because there's
Speaker 3: a lot coming at them and a lot of different
Speaker 3: angles in that communication is totally.
Speaker 2: Different what do you tell your? Kids what do you
Speaker 2: want them to? Do?
Speaker 4: Well? MAN i could probably do a whole podcast on that.
Speaker 5: Question i'll be brief two that number, One i'm so
Speaker 5: grateful THAT i was a utility player for my current
Speaker 5: job BECAUSE i started a game in The major leagues
Speaker 5: at every position of a, pitcher, catcher and SO i
Speaker 5: started a major league game at seven different. Positions so
Speaker 5: my job as an, analyst When ravi teas me up on,
Speaker 5: something there's essentially no play THAT i haven't. Had and
Speaker 5: WHEN i was going through, THAT i didn't, Think, oh
Speaker 5: this will help me be a great broadcaster one, day
Speaker 5: but it sure. Helps but it also it also helped
Speaker 5: me fall in love with the sport at a way
Speaker 5: deeper level BECAUSE, ravi we know here the chuck like
Speaker 5: a left fielder fighting the. Sun i've lived. THAT i
Speaker 5: literally know what that feels. LIKE i don't just have
Speaker 5: to guess about. It and, then LIKE i told, YOU
Speaker 5: i played with all These hall Of fame pitchers and
Speaker 5: my brother and my dad were.
Speaker 4: Catchers SO i do feel Like i've.
Speaker 5: Learned the game in a holistic, way probably in a unique,
Speaker 5: fashion but that has caused me to love the game
Speaker 5: at a depth THAT i am very grateful. For and
Speaker 5: WHAT i would tell parents is there's a lot of
Speaker 5: talk about the car right. Home don't spend the car
Speaker 5: right home. Going you got three, hits were, happy you
Speaker 5: got no, hits were? Sad talk about the, game talk
Speaker 5: about the other team short, stuff talk about the other teams,
Speaker 5: catcher talk about the other team's. Pitcher why why did
Speaker 5: your pitcher? Struggle why did your kid get three hits
Speaker 5: or the Other you, know one of the players on
Speaker 5: your team get three hits off a really hard, pitcher
Speaker 5: and you're saying you struggled against, Him, LIKE i wonder
Speaker 5: what he did better than, You LIKE i think we
Speaker 5: get so worried about offending our, kids AND i would
Speaker 5: just encourage the, parents, like you're footing the, bill you're,
Speaker 5: driving you're spending your. Weekends it's okay to talk about
Speaker 5: the game with your. Kids and, it's, really my, opinion
Speaker 5: not okay for your kids to not want to talk about. It,
Speaker 5: like hey, man the point is for you to love
Speaker 5: the game and get better at the, game and the
Speaker 5: only way to do that is to fall in love
Speaker 5: with it on a level that's way better than JUST
Speaker 5: i did.
Speaker 4: Good i'm, HAPPY i did. Bad i'm. Sad that is
Speaker 4: odd to. Me that is not winning the car ride.
Speaker 2: Home that's very good, man that's a great.
Speaker 1: Answer AND i don't know that many people think about
Speaker 1: you can win the, game and you can win the,
Speaker 1: bat and you can win the car ride. Home that's
Speaker 1: that's an interesting. Perspective my dad got to win the
Speaker 1: car ride.
Speaker 2: Home, yeah my.
Speaker 4: Dad was a college.
Speaker 5: Coach when we got in the, Car i'm talking about literallygue.
Speaker 4: Games we're talking about the. Game, yeah your ba's, Okay,
Speaker 4: yeah we're done with my bat's thirty seconds. In let's
Speaker 4: talk about the. Game how did the game?
Speaker 1: Again it's a kitchen sink in one, SECOND i just
Speaker 1: have one More Chris Burke baseball In. Louisville you run
Speaker 1: uh facility. There i'm just, Curious and this is this
Speaker 1: is certainly a question that could go in a billion,
Speaker 1: Directions but for the parents of, players is there is
Speaker 1: there one thing that you find maybe kids and or
Speaker 1: parents are focused on today that probably isn't necessarily the
Speaker 1: thing we need to focus on right. Now AND i
Speaker 1: say this in light Of pedroia And durosa And Dusty
Speaker 1: baker and Theo epstein who've been on this. Show they
Speaker 1: tend to focus. Fundamentals doesn't MEAN i want you to go,
Speaker 1: There but is there something they bring and you're, like,
Speaker 1: yeah let's let's let's shelf that and let's look in
Speaker 1: another direction so that we can build a better.
Speaker 4: Ballplayer, YEAH i THINK i think The it sounds like
Speaker 4: those guys have.
Speaker 5: Covied here's WHAT i would. Do i'm not into telling
Speaker 5: people how to spend their time and. Money if you
Speaker 5: want to buy your kid a five hundred dollars bat
Speaker 5: and buy them every piece of drip That Trey phelps,
Speaker 5: has that's your.
Speaker 4: Decision. COOL i would encourage. THEM i would encourage you to.
Speaker 5: Set some expectations that they just play. Hard You, like,
Speaker 5: like it's where every piece of?
Speaker 4: Drip you?
Speaker 5: Want run your butt to first, base get get to your.
Speaker 5: Position how about pick your teammates glove and hat up
Speaker 5: and meet them out on the field after they just
Speaker 5: flew out to right center and they're halfway between first and. Second, like,
Speaker 5: like if we're gonna do all the dog and pony,
Speaker 5: show can you at least play? Hard how about that
Speaker 5: we're gonna talk about winning the car ride, Home we're
Speaker 5: gonna the first thing we're gonna talk about did you play?
Speaker 4: Hard AND i will just tell YOU i have a
Speaker 4: sixteen year.
Speaker 5: OLD i got a text from a college coach the other,
Speaker 5: day and this is not to pat me or him
Speaker 5: on the. Back he, SAID i just Saw jackson strike
Speaker 5: out and not make a slow roller. Play that was
Speaker 5: a hard, play BUT i think he could. Make AND
Speaker 5: i just want to encourage you with the fact that
Speaker 5: he was the first one off the. Field he stood
Speaker 5: on the edge of the dugout and cheered on his
Speaker 5: teammates and just, know, yes he made two great plays
Speaker 5: and had a line drive in his first at. Bat
Speaker 5: BUT i watched that as much AS i watched his at.
Speaker 5: Bats AND i know that Because. Carl we spend time
Speaker 5: with these guys all year, long And i've been telling
Speaker 5: him that since he was this. Tall so to see
Speaker 5: him win that moment When I'm i'm in a different,
Speaker 5: state that matters the. Most but LIKE i would just,
Speaker 5: say you're into the bargain Is, Hey, BUD i need
Speaker 5: you to play.
Speaker 4: Hard fall in love with playing? Hard great, ANSWER i like.
Speaker 2: IT i like.
Speaker 3: It. Think, yeah let's let's get to the kitchen, sink all, Right,
Speaker 3: Berkie so as quick as you can here for four
Speaker 3: kitchen sink. Questions most memorable thing a teammate ever ever
Speaker 3: said to, You.
Speaker 4: Orlando, hudson you can't win a gold glove on your.
Speaker 1: Feet the old dog. Shirt, hey he knew how to
Speaker 1: grab the.
Speaker 5: Attention on baseball tonight he would slide for a pop
Speaker 5: up down the right phil line playing second.
Speaker 4: Base he could catch it so easy on his.
Speaker 5: Feet he slide for, it he run, in he goes
Speaker 5: web gym and he like that was like number.
Speaker 1: Three he'd go that'd be number three. Tonight he had
Speaker 1: the whole. System you never told me that. Story that's.
Speaker 1: Great most memorable team theate ever. Said here's the next.
Speaker 1: Question in the kitchen. Sink players today are into the.
Speaker 1: Drip you just mentioned. It what is what is your
Speaker 1: top drip item if you had?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: Yours oh, ME i was in.
Speaker 5: College as drippy AS i ever got was what we
Speaker 5: CALLED tv, Tape so you know about about four inches
Speaker 5: of white.
Speaker 4: Tape.
Speaker 5: Risk the risk did absolutely nothing for, you but we
Speaker 5: thought it looked cool ON TV tv.
Speaker 2: TAPE i love, it, man all. Right question three, here favorite.
Speaker 1: Pack i'll do it Because i'll do it BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: know he loves. This who's your FAVORITE who player of all?
Speaker 4: Time Steph, Curry Steph, Curry Steph, Curry Steph, Curry Steph.
Speaker 5: Curry if he's, On i'm watching just the way he
Speaker 5: impacts the game when he has the ball and then more,
Speaker 5: importantly when he doesn't have the ball is and the
Speaker 5: way he moves and and and the gravity that he
Speaker 5: has when he's on the court to me is like MUSTY.
Speaker 4: TV i can't take my eyes off of.
Speaker 3: Him, man that's really Gared. Burkey all, Right, rabby finish
Speaker 3: it up, here, Buddy you got this, one.
Speaker 4: All?
Speaker 1: Right you And ravi had to head on a golf.
Speaker 1: Course who wins more? Often where's that question come? From?
Speaker 4: Oh what a.
Speaker 5: Question this is gonna sound very, Political BUT i WOULD
Speaker 5: i think this is about, True. RABBI i would say
Speaker 5: we're about fifty to. Fifty we've we've this. YEAR i
Speaker 5: think WE'RE i might be two and. One he definitely
Speaker 5: clipped me the last time we, played BUT i THINK
Speaker 5: i Won louisiana AND i won the first round In,
Speaker 5: texas but he clipped me a couple times in williamsport.
Speaker 4: Work is that, Fair? Raby we're about?
Speaker 1: FIT i think THAT'S i THINK i think it's very
Speaker 1: politically correct and probably very. Accurate, Burkey, yes.
Speaker 2: Probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah when you guys, say when you guys see you're pretty,
Speaker 3: FAIR i mean pretty.
Speaker 2: Even what are you guys shooting out?
Speaker 4: There seventy eight to eighty.
Speaker 5: Two you, know we can get hot and shoot seventy,
Speaker 5: five we can go sideways and shoot eighty. Eight but
Speaker 5: it's we're Both we're both in a pretty steady. Range
Speaker 5: we're like six to eight, handicaps.
Speaker 1: Right rather more, importantly, yes and more, importantly there's Nobody
Speaker 1: i'd rather be out on a golf course with than Than.
Speaker 1: BRICKIE a blast to compete, with a blast in the
Speaker 1: booth as. Well Hey, berkeie REALLY i appreciate you doing.
Speaker 1: THIS i know you stepped in here on late. Notice
Speaker 1: we could do this with you for like hours because
Speaker 1: this is this is really Your so thanks very much.
Speaker 5: My pleasure, Man AND i would just say those on the.
Speaker 5: Journey the journey is the best. Part it really. IS
Speaker 5: i know that sounds, cliche but, like just enjoy. It
Speaker 5: i'm trying to take my own advice there with my
Speaker 5: kiddos and enjoy the journey of watching your kids grow
Speaker 5: up and watching them.
Speaker 4: Improve Hey, bricky Thanks.
Speaker 1: Justin we'll see you again next, week and don't forget,
Speaker 1: everybody please join. Us the parent dugout is your. Place
Speaker 1: you do get dirt from the, dugout you Get justin's
Speaker 1: baseball recruiting. Confidential you can ask us, questions clubhouse, conversations
Speaker 1: to engage with other parents on the. Way it's. Growing.
Speaker 1: Man we are grateful for all of what you. Do
Speaker 1: Justin we'll talk, Soon.
Speaker 2: Buddy thanks for having