Speaker 1: Come on, come.
Speaker 2: On this episode of a heat check.
Speaker 1: We react to all of the trades, well most of
Speaker 1: the trades. At the deadline, I wrote all the trades down.
Speaker 1: We'll see if we get to a ball Harden. Harden
Speaker 1: was actually moved, despite Steve Nash telling the world Harden
Speaker 1: was not being traded. He met at that very moment
Speaker 1: that he was having that conversation, Maury got his wish.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Tarryl Mourray for pulling out a rabbit from
Speaker 1: his hat. Ben Simmons, Congratulations to Ben Simmons, he is
Speaker 1: no longer rotting in some random high school Philadelphia gym
Speaker 1: taking videos for Instagram of his basketball shoes off, just
Speaker 1: the socks. He actually gets to play. He actually gets
Speaker 1: his look at his email and see money getting direct
Speaker 1: deposited into his bank account for the first time in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So many moves rocks get that perfect, right, my.
Speaker 1: So we thought there was a potential for one of
Speaker 1: those trade deadlines that starts with the roar and goes
Speaker 1: out with a like a lamb. What is it like
Speaker 1: a starts like a lion and ends like a lamb?
Speaker 1: And we were like it was maybe eleven am day
Speaker 1: of the deadline, and we're like, what's happening? Where are
Speaker 1: these trades? There's nothing happening. Hopped on the peloton just
Speaker 1: to get my mind right, and literally as I got
Speaker 1: on the peloton, boom boom boom boom boom, blackout, blackout, blackout.
Speaker 1: Trade trade this, this trade, that trade, this trade, that trade,
Speaker 1: and then it happened, and then it happen. Been in
Speaker 1: the battle between Brian Windhorst Adrian Warzanowski, Sham Sharanya. Boom Ooo,
Speaker 1: this is the bomb. This is the sound of the
Speaker 1: Sham's bomb. Shams just scoops everyone scoops, Woje scoops, Windy scoops, Hanes.
Speaker 1: There were some bubblings, own negotiations getting clearer. Things are
Speaker 1: starting to come into fruition. Both sides starting to talk.
Speaker 1: We've been saying that blah blah blah, both sides. We've
Speaker 1: been hearing that for weeks. But no trade comes down. Yes, Sir,
Speaker 1: Harden Ghosts of Philadelphia. Ben Simmons goes to Brooklyn. Are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? This is the best possible situation for
Speaker 1: all NBA fans. If you love the tea and you
Speaker 1: love drama. I am telling you, now, though, where will
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons drama that's been feeding our news site for
Speaker 1: the last five, seven, eight nine months, whatever it's been,
Speaker 1: will pale in comparison to how the fuck did something
Speaker 1: three headed monster between Harden, Kyrie and Kadi dissolved so fast?
Speaker 1: Who was responsible for this? How did it happen? The
Speaker 1: investigative reporting and the tea that has already come out.
Speaker 1: I tell you what delicious compared to like some where
Speaker 1: will Ben go? What's happening with Daryl Morriy? That is
Speaker 1: nothing compared to this. So Brooklyn Nets, here's the trade.
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets receive Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummonds, a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two first round pick completely unprotected with the
Speaker 1: right to defer to twenty twenty three, a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: seven first round pick top eight protected through twenty twenty
Speaker 1: eight and becomes it becomes two seconds if it's not conveyed.
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia seventy six ers receive James Harden and Paul
Speaker 1: millsp I tell you what, I love everything about this,
Speaker 1: not just from a basketball perspective, because we'll get to that,
Speaker 1: but from a comedy perspective. This is just so much material,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to get to. First, First,
Speaker 1: and foremost, the fact that Woj was so blatantly wrong
Speaker 1: for so long about this trade not happening, and us
Speaker 1: as a collective finally understanding that the hero has stuck
Speaker 1: around long enough to be the villain is tremendous. We
Speaker 1: all now collectively understand that Woj is for the man,
Speaker 1: He's not for the culture or for the people. And
Speaker 1: I hear it on Twitter time after time after time.
Speaker 1: Take this, Woj, Sham's got you, Woj. So that was hilarious,
Speaker 1: hilarious to see Windhorse and Woj literally sparring on national
Speaker 1: television basically being like I told you so, Woj, You're
Speaker 1: obviously your sources are lying to you, or you have
Speaker 1: bad sources, whatever that is. I love Also how this
Speaker 1: all ended up happening. Harden wouldn't ask out for a
Speaker 1: trade because he was apparently worried about the public backlash
Speaker 1: of publicly asking for one, even though we're pretty certain
Speaker 1: and confident. He asked out if he's being traded, like
Speaker 1: it wasn't a public announcement or a skewering like he
Speaker 1: gave us on national TV. But that was shocking for
Speaker 1: him to say this team's not close to competing under
Speaker 1: any circumstances. Of course, I didn't see that happening for
Speaker 1: the Nets, right, This team is close. They played sixteen
Speaker 1: games together, all three They've won thirteen out of those sixteen, right,
Speaker 1: So okay. Secondarily, now the news is coming out that
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Harden didn't like each other. Casp, Are you shocked?
Speaker 1: I am absolutely baffled that a man like James Harden,
Speaker 1: a simple man with simple desires fried food, strip clubs,
Speaker 1: and basketball, would not get along with a man who
Speaker 1: believed that the earth was flat that sticking up for
Speaker 1: the world, his duty was to not be vaccinated, to
Speaker 1: show the world that people should not be persecuted or
Speaker 1: admonished or reaped the consequences at work for not getting vaccinated.
Speaker 1: He believed that that was social justice. He burns sage
Speaker 1: whenever he goes to an arena. He's on Instagram live
Speaker 1: posting weird things about how he knew Kevin Durant in
Speaker 1: a past life, like James Harden's looking at Kyrie riving like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Guy? Like I just want
Speaker 1: to hoop and you are fucking up my plans to hoop.
Speaker 1: James Harden of course got there to be on a
Speaker 1: three headed monster, and all of a sudden he looks
Speaker 1: around and he's like, this is a colder version of
Speaker 1: Houston with more taxes, Like I am now paying somehow
Speaker 1: fifteen percent more in taxes. Kevin Duran is injured. Kyrie's
Speaker 1: never here. He's talking about how he's saving the world
Speaker 1: by not getting vaccinated, and all I can think about
Speaker 1: is listen, I did not come here for this. Also,
Speaker 1: apparently Kyrie Irving was quote unquote eager to see James
Speaker 1: Harden also be traded. Per Joe Varden, he said Irving
Speaker 1: was ready for Harden to move on too. When Irving
Speaker 1: heard Harden was in fact hoping to be traded, a
Speaker 1: well placed source says he was eager to see it
Speaker 1: come to fruition as well.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There is a new report by a not so
Speaker 1: credible source, but a Brooklyn Nets executive says the growing
Speaker 1: riff between Kyrie and Harden this is ballsack sports, so
Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt. That's the one
Speaker 1: that was also quoting things that actually came true about
Speaker 1: Daryl Morey, So whatever you want to say, Kyrie. This
Speaker 1: is the quote. Kyrie beat James Harden one on one
Speaker 1: almost every day in practice, and Kyrie was barely even
Speaker 1: in basketball shape. It demoralized Harden. Things reached a breaking
Speaker 1: point when Kyrie called Harden washed after completely locking him
Speaker 1: up in one scrimmage, and assistant had to break the
Speaker 1: two up as tempers flared and the relationship spiraled down
Speaker 1: from there. Sheesh, there's just so much I don't even
Speaker 1: understand it. Another thing that was hilarious to me was
Speaker 1: that Kevin Durant had to go on national TV and
Speaker 1: basically draft his All Star team minutes after this happened.
Speaker 1: And there's two spots left, and Kevin Durant has the
Speaker 1: choice between James Harden and the pariah of the NBA
Speaker 1: in terms of popularity, Rudy Gobert. Rudy Gobert for the last.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many years has been picked last
Speaker 1: at the All Star Game. It's become a thing. It's
Speaker 1: become kind of like a a ritual, like a part
Speaker 1: of the All Star Game. Utah players always get chosen last,
Speaker 1: and Rudy Gobert is always the last pick, chosen, always, always, always,
Speaker 1: always not this time, Apparently Kevin Durant needed needed Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert to help face this Lebron led roster. Uh and
Speaker 1: this is what he had to say, timer, first timer,
Speaker 1: Katie just needs signs right now.
Speaker 3: To me, I think.
Speaker 1: Lebron said he needed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna need some size, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I need some size and a terrier. Yeah, especially with
Speaker 3: Jonas and Lebron James such great basketball this year. I
Speaker 3: need somebody all set that Rudy Gobert. I agree, I agree,
Speaker 3: I agree that worked out.
Speaker 1: That worked out nicely. Pause First, and foremost, you must
Speaker 1: google this video. This is not something that is done
Speaker 1: justice by audio because it's a screen. It's a half
Speaker 1: screen of Broun on the left and Katie on the right,
Speaker 1: and Lebron somehow procured a clipboard that he could put
Speaker 1: over his face to hide him laughing at a dead
Speaker 1: pined Kevin Durant say, yeah, I need some size for show.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm gonna take I need to have somebody
Speaker 1: just straight face. I need somebody to to guard Lebron
Speaker 1: James and Joannis Atto Coompo and all those other big boys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I need I need Rudy Gobert and and
Speaker 1: Braun is losing it. So now Braun has to choose
Speaker 1: Harden because he's the last guy left. Here's what they
Speaker 1: have to say after.
Speaker 3: Ask my defending back. Hey, let's let's not check us. Hey,
Speaker 3: I say, hey, when somebody went out, you let him go,
Speaker 3: don't let him come back.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, KD. That's why I cut my hair off.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going So.
Speaker 3: James Harden goes to uh Lebron James, that's the final selection,
Speaker 3: uh of the All Star.
Speaker 1: Shack? Is he can he? Is he?
Speaker 3: Is he? He hasn't played? Is he healthy?
Speaker 2: Who's that?
Speaker 1: James? He hasn't played?
Speaker 3: He's what happens if you don't?
Speaker 2: He got traded. He's healthy.
Speaker 1: Now he's missed the last three with a with a hammy.
Speaker 1: And now we know why Lebron carries a clipboard with
Speaker 1: him to the to the.
Speaker 3: Lebron my Right now he rubbings some ice hot on
Speaker 3: that thing.
Speaker 2: He's playing the next.
Speaker 3: Game, questions.
Speaker 1: Clipboard that comes in, Oh my god? Is he healthy?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 1: What happens if he doesn't play? And they just say
Speaker 1: right to his face, Yeah, he hasn't been playing because
Speaker 1: he's been trying to get the fuck out of Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: and Katie's just laughing, laughing. He's been scorned, a dynasty
Speaker 1: has been split up, and he's like, I did not care.
Speaker 1: I do not care about that man. I played with
Speaker 1: him at Oklahoma City and uh, bye bye, bitch. If
Speaker 1: you want to go, then go. So that's hilarious. From
Speaker 1: a basketball perspective, I think this is the best thing
Speaker 1: for both sides. Like you needed to get rid of Ben.
Speaker 1: Ben was rotting. James obviously didn't want to stay, and
Speaker 1: this was one of those circumstances where it was mutually
Speaker 1: assured destruction if the deal didn't go down. You needed
Speaker 1: this deal to happen. What happens for Brooklyn if James
Speaker 1: just decides to opt out of his play player option
Speaker 1: and then decide to be a free agent or force
Speaker 1: his way to be traded, and maybe by that point
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons has already gone, and so you end up
Speaker 1: with Tobias Harris, like you don't want that, You've got
Speaker 1: no leverage, right. And then for Philly, what happens if
Speaker 1: Joel embiid next year, isn't this version of Joel Embiid
Speaker 1: Joel embi right, now is playing the best basketball of
Speaker 1: his life and for the next twenty five games. I
Speaker 1: think we can we can, like realistically assume that will continue.
Speaker 1: Can I assume that that will continue next October? No,
Speaker 1: what happens if you all of a sudden gets back
Speaker 1: on the on the Hirley Temple train. What if he
Speaker 1: starts housing fifteen Shirley Temple's a night like he used to?
Speaker 1: Who knows he might break down? So okay, so you
Speaker 1: get James Harden then offseason and then who knows how
Speaker 1: that goes, and maybe you can't move him. Maybe you
Speaker 1: don't have cap space for him, Maybe nobody wants to
Speaker 1: take Tobias Harris, maybe they don't want Ben Simmons like.
Speaker 1: It was one of those situations where how rare is
Speaker 1: it for an Atlantic Division rival to help each other out,
Speaker 1: to logistically get better for both sides, for your rivals
Speaker 1: to be harder to beat come playoff time. That's how
Speaker 1: bad the situation was. They had no other moves, zero moves.
Speaker 1: And for Philly, joellenb playing his best basketball has never
Speaker 1: had a playmaker and a scorer like James in his
Speaker 1: life period. If James Harden is even a semblance of
Speaker 1: who he was when he first got to Brooklyn, or
Speaker 1: better yet, a version of what he was in Houston.
Speaker 1: And Joel and b just continues to play at the
Speaker 1: level that he's playing at now. And then you've got
Speaker 1: spreading the floor with Matisse Stibele. You've got Danny Green,
Speaker 1: You've got fur Con Cork Moss, You've got George Nang,
Speaker 1: all capable guys who can shoot, and a guy in
Speaker 1: Mattis Stibel who can help out James Harden defensively. This
Speaker 1: team is one of the most unstoppable duos two man
Speaker 1: pick and roll, pick and pop teams that you will see.
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid's most dominant in the interior, and if James
Speaker 1: is even a fraction of himself, all he has to
Speaker 1: do is be a threat to score when they go
Speaker 1: into the two man game. I love this for Philly
Speaker 1: and then for Brooklyn. I mean, this is tremendous. You
Speaker 1: get depths, you get defense, which is sorely needed. You
Speaker 1: were giving up one hundred and fifty points per game
Speaker 1: in some points, like I was seeing regularly live totals
Speaker 1: on Vegas two hundred and forty combined points. That's absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 1: And now You also get another shooter with Seth Curry,
Speaker 1: since Joe Harris is out with an ankle injury. You
Speaker 1: need that. You get also a capable backup big man
Speaker 1: and Andre Drummond, who is playing really well this year.
Speaker 1: He's been playing great as Joel Embid's backup. When Joel
Speaker 1: Embiid went down with COVID, he was averaging double figures
Speaker 1: and rebounds and double figures and points. This is a win.
Speaker 1: Plus you get two of those first round draft picks
Speaker 1: back that. If James Harden walks, you've literally given up
Speaker 1: four first rounds and four pick swabs, and you got
Speaker 1: rid of Jared Allen, and you got rid of Carrisilvert,
Speaker 1: and you got rid Oftorian prince Like. Let it be known.
Speaker 1: That would have been so bad for Sean Marks, so
Speaker 1: bad for that organization and Joe Si, a billionaire who
Speaker 1: all he wants to do is win. Would have been disastrous.
Speaker 1: So I love it. From the basketball perspective, who do
Speaker 1: I think has the best chance of winning a title?
Speaker 1: I think it just remains to be seen. I need
Speaker 1: to see the level that Ben and James are playing
Speaker 1: at and how that works with KD, and how that
Speaker 1: works with Joel before I make a prediction, but I
Speaker 1: tell you what, both sides got better. Another trade that
Speaker 1: went down that was puzzling, Christaps poor zingis for Spencer
Speaker 1: Dinwiddie and Berton's I'll just say this. All you can
Speaker 1: really take from this trade is that Luca wanted Kris
Speaker 1: Stabs the fuck out. That's that's all you need to know.
Speaker 1: Like he's like, I'll take another guy that'll shoot corner threes.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't care that he's a shell of himself.
Speaker 1: I'll get him the ball in his spots. I'll make
Speaker 1: sure he's comfortable. And in terms of Spencer Dinwiddie, let
Speaker 1: him and Mark Cuban talk NFTs and like they can chill.
Speaker 1: He can sit in the in the middle of the
Speaker 1: bench for all I care. He can be my backup.
Speaker 1: He can be a backup point guard. He's quite capable
Speaker 1: of scoring off the bench. We can make him a
Speaker 1: six man. I don't care. Let him be an overpaid
Speaker 1: six man because we got overpaid big and Kristaps porzingis,
Speaker 1: I do not care. A lot of people are calling
Speaker 1: this a bad trade for Dallas, but you know what,
Speaker 1: there's an old saying, if mom ain't happy. Ain't nobody happy?
Speaker 1: And in Dallas, if Luca ain't happy, nobody is happy.
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting interesting trade. Also, Ish Smith comes
Speaker 1: to Washington for Montrez Harrel Charlotte Charlotte Warrens received Montrez Harrell.
Speaker 1: Washington Wizards receive Ish Smith and Vernon Carey Jr. Interesting move,
Speaker 1: Interesting move because quite clearly owner of the Washington Wizards,
Speaker 1: ted Leonsis, has a particular type. I got no type.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: Character guys are only thing that I like. He wants
Speaker 1: to build culture in a very specific way. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what this means. How you want to read
Speaker 1: into it is up to you. But Montrez Harrow and
Speaker 1: his grill and his swag and his moves and his
Speaker 1: attitude on and off the court do not fit to
Speaker 1: what ted Leonsis wants in a player that is foreshore.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Aaron Holliday. Aaron Holliday walked out the
Speaker 1: door for cash. We'll get to that trade in a bit,
Speaker 1: But Phoenix ended up just giving him some scrill, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they let him go. A very
Speaker 1: capable guard who was a part of a massive trade
Speaker 1: this offseason and was seen as a lockdown defender, one
Speaker 1: of the better defenders on that team from the point
Speaker 1: guard spot. All of a sudden, Phoenix gets him for
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing for Charlotte. I love this. Montres Harrol was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players, like one of the best
Speaker 1: backup bigs. He can play. He was a six man
Speaker 1: in the ear and you just get got rid of
Speaker 1: him because you needed a point guard for Bradley Beal,
Speaker 1: who was like, okay, ishmus Okay. He can distribute. He's
Speaker 1: a fine young player. He's having a good year in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Good for Washington. Very strange, very very strange. Trade Derek
Speaker 1: White for Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford. Boston Celtics receive
Speaker 1: Dereck White from the San Antonio Spurs. San Antonio Spurs
Speaker 1: receive Josh Richardson, Romeo Langford a twenty twenty two first
Speaker 1: round pick, top four protection. I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've thought about this a lot. This could
Speaker 1: go one of two ways. Dereck White could be the panacea,
Speaker 1: a two way player, a big bodied guard who can
Speaker 1: fit with Marcus Smart, but both of them don't shoot.
Speaker 1: Derek White makes a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is a very interesting trade because you just gave
Speaker 1: up Boston. Boston just gave up more first round picks,
Speaker 1: and they gave up Romeo Langford, who they took very
Speaker 1: early in the draft quite recently. I'm not quite sold
Speaker 1: on that. This is what Brad Stevens said. He's been
Speaker 1: thinking about Derek White being a fit for a while now,
Speaker 1: he said, We've thought for years Derek was a really
Speaker 1: good fit with our best players. He's an excellent defender.
Speaker 1: He makes the right play on offense over and over.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that only cares about winning. He will
Speaker 1: do all of the little things. Can't quite properly evaluate
Speaker 1: this yet. I need to see it play out. This
Speaker 1: is one of those trades where you got rid of
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson, who was a very capable shooter, for a
Speaker 1: less capable shooter who could play slightly better defense, who
Speaker 1: is slightly more expensive. So how do you evaluate that.
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I don't know. Tatum and Brown
Speaker 1: do they become spot up shooters because my man Derek
Speaker 1: White's not shoot her, and you're one of the worst
Speaker 1: three point shooting teams. Your point guard and Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: couldn't shoot threes, can't shoot threes, then a shreoter who
Speaker 1: you got rid of didn't shoot threes. Really, so the
Speaker 1: hidden bonus, I guess is that Pritchard, who rarely played
Speaker 1: the long shrouder Peyton Pritchard point guard out of Oregon.
Speaker 1: Nice kid uh gets more minutes, so he gets to
Speaker 1: expand his role. But believe me, there are potential downsides.
Speaker 1: Here's what a recent Celtics blogger who's probably much more
Speaker 1: in the weeds on this than me, this is what
Speaker 1: he wrote about this trade. I know I'm right about
Speaker 1: it this trade. I will be right two games from now,
Speaker 1: two months from now, and two years from that now.
Speaker 1: I do not care that we ducked the luxury tax.
Speaker 1: I do not care that we've collected some trade exceptions.
Speaker 1: I do care that our current roster is worse and
Speaker 1: our future outlook is bleak. This was a disaster. Polarizing trade.
Speaker 1: We'll say polarizing trade, will say one that will make
Speaker 1: or break Brad stee Evans as a GM. And I
Speaker 1: think we'll know quite quickly how this ends up working out.
Speaker 1: Four way trade. Boom boom, boom booooo. Detroit Pistons receive
Speaker 1: Marvin Bagley the third former second pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: Current bust La Clippers receive Rodney hood Sami Ojeley. Milwaukee
Speaker 1: Bucks received Sergea Baka twenty twenty two second round pick
Speaker 1: from Detroit a twenty twenty four second round pick from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings receive Dante Devincenzo, Josh Jackson, and Trey Lewles.
Speaker 1: The King somehow won this trade. Don't know how, but
Speaker 1: they did, getting Dante Devincenzo, who's probably one of my
Speaker 1: favorite players in the league. Young player twenty five years old,
Speaker 1: played at Villanova alongside McHale Bridges. The only reason he's
Speaker 1: not performing is because he's coming off of a high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain from the playoffs last year in the Miami
Speaker 1: Heat Series. And that shit, ask me, because I'm going
Speaker 1: through it as well. Nicholes Sprain's take forever to get healed,
Speaker 1: like you're still not right years later. So Dante Evincenzo
Speaker 1: is a slasher, He's a shooter. He can dunk, he
Speaker 1: can block, he can defend, He is versatile, and he
Speaker 1: works with almost any roster if he's used properly, and
Speaker 1: I think with Milwaukee they haven't been using him well.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to pay him soon. And they're using
Speaker 1: Grayson Allen and Pat Connaton as more of a spot
Speaker 1: up shooter three point kind of role instead of a
Speaker 1: guy who's as versatile as Dante, especially since they have
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday. So I think that this fits for the Kings,
Speaker 1: makes them a lot better. Marvin Bagley gets a fresh
Speaker 1: start and he's no longer a King, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: makes Kings fans super happy. Also, the Milwaukee Bucks get
Speaker 1: a backup center. They get a backup center for Brook
Speaker 1: Lopez and brook low Lopez has been out all season
Speaker 1: with a back injury, and so what does that mean
Speaker 1: for Brook? I think it means that possibly he's had
Speaker 1: a setback or two, and if he hasn't had a
Speaker 1: setbacker two, maybe they're worried he will have a setback
Speaker 1: or two and they've got some insurance for that. And
Speaker 1: a Baka is on an expiring so if it doesn't
Speaker 1: work out and Abaka's health his strugs because he's had
Speaker 1: his own back issues as well, then they can just
Speaker 1: let him go for nothing. And Dante was gonna be
Speaker 1: going for nothing anyway, so it's kind of a win
Speaker 1: win and Also they get the Kings get Josh Jackson,
Speaker 1: who's a nice little piece. Trey Lyles, nice little piece.
Speaker 1: He's a Kentucky big man who's kind of been a disappointment,
Speaker 1: but who knows. Get a little value there, so that's nice. Also,
Speaker 1: huge trade, huge trade I need to talk about under
Speaker 1: the radar. The Suns get Tory Craig back, huge move
Speaker 1: for them moving into the playoff push as they try
Speaker 1: to repeat go back to the finals. Tory Craig, as
Speaker 1: you may remember, one of the better pieces in the
Speaker 1: rotation off the bench for the Suns in the finals
Speaker 1: and also in the semifinals. Just an incredible versatile guy
Speaker 1: who can play small five, he can play four, he
Speaker 1: can kind of play multiple positions. And they actually got
Speaker 1: him for nothing last year from the Milwaukee Bucks. Finally
Speaker 1: enough and now they get him from the Indiana Pacers
Speaker 1: for Jalen Smith. They trade their big man who's been
Speaker 1: playing great. Indiana also wins in this trade, India sneaky,
Speaker 1: great trade the trade deadline. Smith as a starter has
Speaker 1: averaged seventeen point three points on fifty eight percent shooting
Speaker 1: and nine and a half rebounds in his four starts.
Speaker 1: When DeAndre eight and Urjevil went McGee went down. That
Speaker 1: is the type of production that you could see in
Speaker 1: a starter if used correctly, which means to me that
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers might make him a core piece of
Speaker 1: their roster moving forward. And that also means rout row
Speaker 1: for a guy like Miles Turner, who the world is wondering,
Speaker 1: are they gonna keep them? Are they gonna not keep them?
Speaker 1: This is what Bonnie Williams says about Tory Craig. It
Speaker 1: gives us some wing, it gives us some wing depth.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that we valued last year. We really
Speaker 1: liked him from the jump. Very tough to trade Jalen,
Speaker 1: but those are tough calls to make you get emotionally
Speaker 1: tied to all of these guys. But we're excited to
Speaker 1: get Tory back. Tough decision for us to make and
Speaker 1: just a part of what we do. And like I said,
Speaker 1: the Sons also get Aaron Holliday for nothing. They literally
Speaker 1: got him for nothing, another backup guard in case campaign
Speaker 1: goes down, in case you know, my guy Landry Schamett
Speaker 1: isn't playing well, which has been basically what's been going on,
Speaker 1: and he's been injured as well. Phoenix Suns are all
Speaker 1: in on this year. They've increased depth in the center
Speaker 1: position and they've increased depth in the guard position. I
Speaker 1: tell you what sneaky moves they are getting made on
Speaker 1: the margins that helped them win it big. Let's see
Speaker 1: what else is here. Dennis Shuter goes to Houston. Dennis
Speaker 1: Shooter will probably be bought out by Houston if it
Speaker 1: doesn't quote unquote work out. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: that means most likely that the Lakers will try to
Speaker 1: get Dennis Shooter back for nothing in the buyout, which
Speaker 1: means Dennis Shooter could potentially be playing for the La
Speaker 1: Lakers where he didn't want to go for less than
Speaker 1: five million dollars when he turned down seventy four million
Speaker 1: dollars to play for them for four years or something
Speaker 1: like that. That is incredible. Imagine ending up back where
Speaker 1: you started for a quarter of the amount that you
Speaker 1: turned out. That is sad. That is sad moves. And
Speaker 1: now you gotta go back with ad who he didn't like.
Speaker 1: You gotta now play with Russell Westbrook. You most likely
Speaker 1: are gonna be competing with Lebron James, who you had
Speaker 1: friction with, and all the while Magic Johnson's gonna be
Speaker 1: tweeting away about how he always hated you and now
Speaker 1: you're back on this team. He told you you were
Speaker 1: in a winner. You weren't supposed to be back. Amazing,
Speaker 1: delicious for the tea, for the memes, incredible, incredible. Also Raptors.
Speaker 1: The Raptors made some moves. They got rid of Goran
Speaker 1: Dragich and they got Fad Young. San Antonio Spurs received
Speaker 1: Goran Draggitch at twenty twenty two first round pick lottery
Speaker 1: protected top thirteen protected in twenty twenty three, and it
Speaker 1: turns into two seconds if it's not conveyed. The Raptors
Speaker 1: get fat das Young Drew Ubanks a twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: second round pick, and boy, they wanted to get done
Speaker 1: with Goran Dragic. He's most likely going to be bought out,
Speaker 1: most likely going to head to Dallas play with Luca
Speaker 1: because they're Slovenian brothers. That's what they like. And what
Speaker 1: does that mean for Spencer Dinwiddie brought row. That's what
Speaker 1: that means. Means you better hope that Goran Dragage gets
Speaker 1: injured again. That's what that means. Raptors are on the
Speaker 1: hook for what's left of Statius Young's fourteen million. They
Speaker 1: might end up buying him out, but they might end
Speaker 1: up just keeping him around. And he's six', eight so
Speaker 1: you know he. Fits somebody said, This they, SAID i
Speaker 1: thought he was already on this. Roster.
Speaker 2: AH i love.
Speaker 1: THAT i love. That and of course the big trade
Speaker 1: are via R Vetus Demontas sabonis For Tyrese halliburton and.
Speaker 1: Healed Indiana pacers Receive, Halliburton, Healed Tristan, Thompson kings Received Demantas,
Speaker 1: Sabonis Justin, Holliday Jeremy lamb a twenty twenty three second
Speaker 1: round pick protected for number fifty six through sixty Ine
Speaker 1: and it just keeps making. Moves how do you get
Speaker 1: a guy who was completely off the? Table Tyrese haliburton
Speaker 1: was supposed to be an untradable. Piece he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be, ungettable the only guy you can't even, Touch and,
Speaker 1: somehow some, Way sabonis ends up going. THERE i love.
Speaker 1: This for The, pacers they clearly stated that they want
Speaker 1: to build this team Around. Halliburton now you've Got Chris,
Speaker 1: torte who knows what you do With Malcolm. Brogden now
Speaker 1: in the, offseason maybe you can move him BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: don't think you can use them. All you've got multiple
Speaker 1: guards that can do different, things and you probably now
Speaker 1: you have multiple picks as well from this trade getting
Speaker 1: rid Of Krris. LAVERT i love, This and now you
Speaker 1: also Get Jalen. Smith Jalen, smith you get who is
Speaker 1: a tenth pick in the draft and he has some
Speaker 1: upside and The pacers now have flexibility with him as.
Speaker 1: WELL i love. THIS i love this for both. Sides
Speaker 1: now you Get deer And fox With. Sabonis good. Stuff
Speaker 1: we talked about. ALREADY. Cj. McCollum we've already talked About
Speaker 1: Norm powell And. Portland we've already talked About Nikaile Alexander
Speaker 1: walker For Joe. Ingalls we've already talked About Kris. Lavert
Speaker 1: here's an interesting one, though Kazy Ok paula from The Miami.
Speaker 3: Heat.
Speaker 1: Yeah why is it, interesting you might, say because this
Speaker 1: is why The heat and The thunder have some of
Speaker 1: the best front offices in the, league and they run
Speaker 1: circles around everyone else because they know how to skirt
Speaker 1: the rules and they know how to make. Moves here's the.
Speaker 1: Deal Kz okpaula was a guy that The Miami heat
Speaker 1: were high. On they spent multiple second round picks to
Speaker 1: get him a couple of years. Ago didn't end up
Speaker 1: turning out, obviously will he did not pan out at
Speaker 1: all the way that they. Hoped he's barely, played so
Speaker 1: The Miami heat traded him To Oklahoma. City Oklahoma city
Speaker 1: received Kazy Ok paula And Miami heat received a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six second. Pick Right but then they put this
Speaker 1: interesting little nugget of information into their memo that they
Speaker 1: already owe twenty twenty three through twenty twenty. Six so
Speaker 1: if you owe a first round pick to a, team
Speaker 1: but it's not but there's a level of like, one
Speaker 1: there's a level of protection that if it doesn't go,
Speaker 1: through then it goes to the next. Year you cannot
Speaker 1: trade any of those future first round picks because that
Speaker 1: might be owed To Oklahoma. City so you can't rob
Speaker 1: From peter to Pay paul, Essentially so what they did
Speaker 1: was change the protections on those picks that give The
Speaker 1: Miami heat back this year's pick and next year's, pick
Speaker 1: so they only owe a twenty twenty four and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five to The Oklahoma City. Thunder so this year
Speaker 1: and next year they get. Themselves that's their. Own they
Speaker 1: own their own first round, picks so if they, want
Speaker 1: they can trade their own first round this year and
Speaker 1: their own first round next year with some. Maneuvering they
Speaker 1: have to do even more finagling in order to do
Speaker 1: that to then go and trade for another big free
Speaker 1: agent or another star that wants to come there or
Speaker 1: move up in the draft and get Probably paolo Ben
Speaker 1: carroll or something like. That it's. Insane The heat needed
Speaker 1: to Convert Caleb martin from a two way contract to
Speaker 1: a full contract or lose, them So apalla was gonna
Speaker 1: go anywhere he was gonna. Go apollo's draft rights cost
Speaker 1: The heat three second round picks in twenty, nineteen and
Speaker 1: that was kind of. Garbage so the real, reason LIKE i,
Speaker 1: said for this, trade by being pointed out BY, cbs
Speaker 1: is that it frees Up miami from the restrictive rules
Speaker 1: about trading first round picks due to something called The
Speaker 1: steppian rule super. Complicated because The heat already Owed Oklahoma
Speaker 1: city a protective first, rounder it freezes The heat from
Speaker 1: trading any of their future first rounders until twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: eight because it's not really known when that pick was
Speaker 1: going to. Convey so amendment of this trade Allows miami
Speaker 1: and says that the Pick miami os will not convey
Speaker 1: until at least twenty twenty, five and now they can
Speaker 1: trade their twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. PICKS
Speaker 1: a lot of work and a lot of little maneuvering
Speaker 1: that shows you That Sam presty and Pat riley are way,
Speaker 1: ahead like things that front offices would never even know
Speaker 1: to do until guys like them do it for. Them
Speaker 1: the interesting, thing, finally there's so much to get to
Speaker 1: we're not going to get to it. All BUT i
Speaker 1: do want to say that what's fascinating to me about
Speaker 1: this trade deadline is the trades they didn't go. Through
Speaker 1: the trades that didn't go through mean probably more than
Speaker 1: the trades that. Did. One everybody was talking About Jeremy.
Speaker 1: Grant Jeremy, Grant Jeremy. Grant Jeremy grant was the bell
Speaker 1: of the ball for. Months turns Out detroit Likes Jeremy
Speaker 1: grant enough that the only way that they were gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of him was with two first round, picks
Speaker 1: and on top of, That Jeremy grant has one more
Speaker 1: year left on his contract and he wants like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen million dollar deal for four. Years that's
Speaker 1: a lot of fucking. Money and for people who Think
Speaker 1: Jeremy grant might be available in two, years what DO
Speaker 1: i want to give him two first round picks for?
Speaker 1: Him i'll just go and get him myself because you're
Speaker 1: not going to probably pay him. That so nobody ended
Speaker 1: up making that, deal And detroit is sitting there With
Speaker 1: Jeremy grant and they end up probably getting. Nothing but
Speaker 1: Also Troy, weaver THE gm of The Detroit, pistons Recruited
Speaker 1: jeremy to go. There they have a good. Relationship Jeremy
Speaker 1: grant wants to play for a BLACK, gm he's publicly stated,
Speaker 1: that And detroit is on the. Rise so what happens
Speaker 1: To Jeremy. Grant Does portland go out and try to
Speaker 1: get him in free? Agency Does portland give one first
Speaker 1: round pick For Jeremy grant to get his? Rights is
Speaker 1: that how they end up doing? It is that what's
Speaker 1: in store for? Them all very very interesting. MOVES i
Speaker 1: thought that was. Fascinating John collins was supposed to come To. Washington,
Speaker 1: Meanwhile Bradley beal was it having wrist surgery day during
Speaker 1: the trade, deadline woke up and found, out like the
Speaker 1: Fresh prince of Bel air that everybody was. Gone spence was,
Speaker 1: Gone montrez was, Gone everybody's. Gone where'd they go into
Speaker 1: the either? Boom and Now Bradley beal is stuck with
Speaker 1: players that he probably doesn't go to play. With, well
Speaker 1: he's off for the rest of the. Year he's a free,
Speaker 1: agent who. Knows so that's. Fascinating John collins was supposed
Speaker 1: to be. There they couldn't find a third team to
Speaker 1: make that trade, happen and Now washington is in. Purgatory The,
Speaker 1: lakers The, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers. LAKERS i said this today
Speaker 1: to someone who asked me about THE. NBA i believe
Speaker 1: it was The Rochester radio, network and they, said how
Speaker 1: do you feel about The lakers losing to Your? Blazers
Speaker 1: AND i, said, WELL i would love the joy and
Speaker 1: satisfaction and happiness THAT i get from watching my favorite team.
Speaker 1: Succeeding but we're pushing p of, course but a close,
Speaker 1: second a close second is watching The lakers. Fail LIKE
Speaker 1: i get, It like ninety percent of the joy THAT
Speaker 1: i get from watching The blazers, succeed AS i do
Speaker 1: from watching The lakers. Fail so this is kind of
Speaker 1: all a. Half you, know my team's never gonna succeed,
Speaker 1: anytime probably in my prime of my. Life i'll probably
Speaker 1: be in a wheelchair by the time we're. Contending BUT
Speaker 1: i know The lakers are gonna be in trouble for
Speaker 1: a long. TIME i can soak this up and enjoy
Speaker 1: this and the fact that they didn't make one, move
Speaker 1: and the fact that they could have made a move
Speaker 1: and they idiotically did not make a. Move here's what
Speaker 1: the trade, was. Folks houston Offered John wall to The La.
Speaker 1: Lakers all you had to do was Trade Russell westbrook
Speaker 1: and trade you're twenty twenty seven twenty twenty seven first round.
Speaker 1: Pick and The lakers said. No Apparently John wall looks
Speaker 1: really good right. Now he can, shoot he can, play,
Speaker 1: make he can even defend a little. Bit he's, fast
Speaker 1: and he can speed up and slow, down Unlike Russell,
Speaker 1: westbrook who can only speed. Up AND i tell you,
Speaker 1: what he's really good around the. Rim he probably is
Speaker 1: a much better fit Than russ right, now just as.
Speaker 1: Expensive but because The lakers didn't want to give a
Speaker 1: first round pick that's in five years from. Now they
Speaker 1: decided to stay pat and continue to spiral. Downward just,
Speaker 1: Remember Lebron james will be a free agent two years from.
Speaker 1: NOW i do not think this team is going to
Speaker 1: contend because that's the same period The Russell westbrook becomes
Speaker 1: a free. Agent AND i think that deal was the
Speaker 1: only way you could have gotten it. Done here's what
Speaker 1: it was supposed to. Be, Actually Taylor Horton tucker in
Speaker 1: that trade as. Well apparently they maybe would have done
Speaker 1: the deal For Eric gordon as well With John wall
Speaker 1: that would have changed the. Team but apparently that was
Speaker 1: just a bridge too far for The. Lakers this is
Speaker 1: What clutch points just. Dropped Rob polinka said that there
Speaker 1: was alignment between, Him Lebron Anthony davis to not make a.
Speaker 1: Move and that's a. Lie that's a. LIE i am
Speaker 1: told from a source familiar With lebron in, eighties thinking
Speaker 1: that this is quote totally. False there was no conversation
Speaker 1: between the three On. Thursday Rob polinka continues to impress
Speaker 1: there Is you think that there's like nothing more he
Speaker 1: can do to make himself look any, worse.
Speaker 2: And then he does. It who can do?
Speaker 1: That it's like, impressive you had one one, Chance like
Speaker 1: you know how when you're on a chess board and
Speaker 1: like you've got one move or it's, checkmate like you've
Speaker 1: got one possible move to get yourself back to, life
Speaker 1: and then you don't do. It That's Rob polinka all the, time,
Speaker 1: though all the, time and, somehow like the chess board
Speaker 1: has a shift where there's another one move and he
Speaker 1: just won't make. It he's determined to let this franchise.
Speaker 1: FAIL i swear To, GOD i cannot wait to Dvr
Speaker 1: Lebron james's nest press next press conference when they ask
Speaker 1: him about, this Because lebron just got beaten by The Portland,
Speaker 1: trailblazers who are a shell of. Themselves they literally have.
Speaker 1: Nobody Mike boeman called us an mc douaa. Team he
Speaker 1: said that on national television and we beat The lakers
Speaker 1: With Anthony davis And Lebron. James Lebron james, SAID i
Speaker 1: need some wine and a night's. Sleep we need are
Speaker 1: not on the same level as The Milwaukee bucks. Delicious
Speaker 1: we will not be on the same level with The Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: bucks and they basically signaled that they wanted to make a,
Speaker 1: move and then and Then Rob plinkett comes out here
Speaker 1: and tries to parade a lie in front of us and, say,
Speaker 1: oh we were all, aligned and that is fucking. FALSE
Speaker 1: i cannot, Wait. Lakerland the jolly THAT i, need THAT
Speaker 1: i am eating and becoming satisfied from of your failure
Speaker 1: is enough to keep me satiated from now until my,
Speaker 1: eighties when when The blazers find their way to getting
Speaker 1: the next gave me a lila that they can not build.
Speaker 1: Around apparently there was another trade that was on the,
Speaker 1: Table sabonis For. Ayton What Zach lowe reports that The
Speaker 1: suns And pacers had discussions about, It Sabonis DeAndre ayton.
Speaker 1: Trade The pacers And Phoenix suns had a brief dialogue
Speaker 1: Around sabonis and ate and multiple sores of say it
Speaker 1: did not get full far, Pause, yeah Because DeAndre aiden's
Speaker 1: a much better player defensive fleet Than, Sibonis like what
Speaker 1: are we talking? About but mostly informal and broadly exploratory
Speaker 1: and aimed at the future rather than anything. Now no
Speaker 1: formal offer was ever. Made The king's coming With haliburton
Speaker 1: rendered everything else. Moot The sons not immediately hanging up
Speaker 1: the phone and tossing it off of a high story.
Speaker 1: Window even in the off, season, though is something to think.
Speaker 1: About i'll tell you what useuf nurkic for. Aidon ahh,
Speaker 1: boy oh.
Speaker 2: BOY i don't hate.
Speaker 1: That i'm just. Saying i'm just SAYING a girl can.
Speaker 1: DREAM i. CAN'T i girl can. Dream that's all the
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