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Speaker 2: Can you kind of tell.

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Speaker 2: On Anthony you're saying sorry. On Anthony you said, oh.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, I'm talking about throughout the draft, but

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Speaker 2: And you know, the the free athletes people. What I'm say, No, that.

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Speaker 3: That's something I mean, we Chris breaches it and you know,

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Speaker 3: we just really harped on it. Don't ignore trace, okay,

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Speaker 3: sometimes they're just too big and fast and failed. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're talking high floors, right, we woua talk floor and

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Speaker 2: You Okay, we're at least gonna get this, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's like just just go with it.

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Speaker 2: That's what coaches played for.

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Speaker 3: Bruh.

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Speaker 2: Chris said it to that.

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Speaker 4: You get texting about saying the ENTAC office, you know.

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Speaker 5: I you did following pretty close listen to them.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean we all have our our areas and

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Speaker 4: you know, you see a play on tape and it's

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Speaker 4: He was like gone to practice. He's like it be

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Speaker 5: Here's how uh how about you guys to know you

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Speaker 5: Yah, was there any comparison grow in the year that

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Speaker 5: And what point what did you become like the uniform decision?

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Speaker 2: Couple more clarify he was saun like, talk to him

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Speaker 3: It was just keep working through all the other players,

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Speaker 2: What were those moments like? And then once you got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was it was some tension in there.

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Speaker 4: You don't went the second or third choice to.

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Speaker 4: You want who you wanna go with. So we got

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Speaker 3: Year or you quack, kay, that's probably that's probably the

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Speaker 3: I mean when I was I was texting, uh I

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Speaker 2: Like, hey, what's you know, what's the dude look like?

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Speaker 2: Guy like Lamar, Like he's just built different that way.

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