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Speaker 1: And welcome everybody to the Cowboys Hour at Side Car Social.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for coming out to a sidecar Social.

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Speaker 1: Another difficult game, but we are going to have a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, another another.

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Speaker 5: Difficult day, Another difficult day.

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Speaker 1: How does it affect your next day?

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Speaker 5: I still have to produce my show for that Arizon

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Speaker 5: Valley Sports. Go ahead and check it out Cowboys Flashback.

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Speaker 5: I still have to produce it the same way. Whatever

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Speaker 1: All, and the postgame show goes about the same.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, same thing. I actually wasn't on post game yesterday

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Speaker 1: So I don't have time to get from where we

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Speaker 1: What was the locker room like?

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Speaker 5: It was hard, I could tell since the frustrations from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell, you can. I've been in enough

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Speaker 1: And they're struggling right now, they're fighting with injuries and

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Cowboys Hour. Thanks to all of

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Speaker 1: So you've mentioned you were doing a collegiate program over

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Speaker 2: Are you doing Wellhock?

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Speaker 7: on the D liney's you know, you see the other

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Speaker 7: day we knocked them out of the sticks a couple

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Speaker 7: of times, and Micah had a sack. I want to say,

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Speaker 7: Demo had a sack, and then I think Carl and

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Speaker 7: somebody else had a sack.

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Speaker 2: So it's like once we do that, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we just keep that.

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Speaker 7: Mindset, which I feel like guys is buying into these

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Speaker 7: last couple of weeks making a big difference for us.

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Speaker 7: I feel like that's gonna put us light years ahead

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Speaker 7: of you know, these last couple of weeks of what

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Speaker 7: we've been did.

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Speaker 1: It just take time to acclimate to a much different

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Speaker 1: system than the one he's been playing the last three years.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I mean not really because this system we're playing

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Speaker 7: in for me, fortunately, I've been kind of playing it

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Speaker 7: throughout my whole career, so it wasn't much of an

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Speaker 7: adjustment but for me. But I know, like for some

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Speaker 7: of the D linemen, it could have been a big

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Speaker 7: adjustment because for Chauncey last year, he was, you know,

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Speaker 7: having to be a little i think leaner and stuff

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Speaker 7: like that, and this year he had to put on

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Speaker 7: a little more weight to go out there and play

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Speaker 7: his position for us, and he done all that we

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Speaker 7: asked of him, and he's having the heck of a

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Speaker 7: year doing it, and he's been one of the guys

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Speaker 7: that's been outstanding for us this year. So that's more

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Speaker 7: the adjustment that it is, you know, just guys buying

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Speaker 7: into what their role is. And like the good thing

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Speaker 7: about our defense is like it's no man abo above

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Speaker 7: the other, you know, so we're depending on the next

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Speaker 7: guy to do his job. And I mean it sounds

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Speaker 7: funny because everybody's doing that, like everybody's pending on the

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Speaker 7: next guy, but it's legitly like if one guy messes

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Speaker 7: up on the plate. It makes everybody else looks bad,

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Speaker 7: which obviously what's been happening these last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 7: And while it's been looking so bad, but you know,

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Speaker 7: throughout that we've been making definitely a lot more strides

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Speaker 7: and stuff like that. As you've been saying, I don't

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Speaker 7: know when the last time we had a turnover, but

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Speaker 7: we had a couple more sacks this week.

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Speaker 2: We had a forest phone when we had a couple

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Speaker 2: of turnovers.

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Speaker 7: So I'll definitely say that the strides has definitely happening.

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Speaker 1: Malik Hooker, the Cowboys Safety as our guest. We're on

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys Hour at Sidecars Social and the Star District Can, Frisco,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Us to the Miller Lite Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertson

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Speaker 3: and broadcasting live from Sidecars Social at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's the Cowboys Hour. Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson,

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Speaker 1: our special guests, Molly Hooker, the Cowboys Safety.

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Speaker 2: Who is you?

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Speaker 1: Come on? He came out a little better, a little up,

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Speaker 1: show it up there you go. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: so Monday night game. How far down, how far in advance?

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Speaker 1: Do you look at the schedule and think about what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do? Uh?

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I kinda just take it day by day because me personally,

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Speaker 7: like I don't even know what I'm gonna eat when

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Speaker 7: I leave from here, So I like kind of just

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Speaker 7: taking everything that I do one thing at a time

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Speaker 7: and kind of focusing on whatever I'm dealing with in

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Speaker 7: that moment. So I really, you know, honest, like I said,

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Speaker 7: you've seen I said Sunday, So.

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Speaker 1: I would like very much for you to teach me

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Speaker 1: that trick to just only think about what's now and

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Speaker 1: let the next five minutes worry about about that. But

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Speaker 1: you do have a Monday night game. So football is

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Speaker 1: such a sport that creates routine and players are creatures

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Speaker 1: of habit. So when you have a Monday night game,

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Speaker 1: and my understanding is that I don't know, I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it yet, but my understanding is that the schedule

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Speaker 1: is going to be a little different than a month

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Speaker 1: in our game last year, They're gonna kind of tweak

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Speaker 1: it toward the end of the week a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But do you do anything differently during the week during

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Speaker 1: a normal seven day week, when you're getting ready to

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Speaker 1: play on Monday night.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I get a little more treatment and

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Speaker 7: stuff like that that I would normally get in the

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Speaker 7: regular week, obviously because we have an extra day, so

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Speaker 7: I kind of try to spend that day tweaking, like

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Speaker 7: the little things that not necessarily that I might be

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Speaker 7: banged up on, whether it be you know, something I

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Speaker 7: took a hit from, or whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 7: but kind of just try to you know, whether it

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Speaker 7: be extra cold tub or extra fam I'm kind of

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Speaker 7: just trying to spend that last bit of time doing

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Speaker 7: something like that to try to put myself in the

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Speaker 7: best position to perform on Sunday or Monday.

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Speaker 5: What does your day to day treatment rehab kind of

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Speaker 5: look like.

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Speaker 7: I mean, for me, obviously, on Wednesdays and Thursdays, we're

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Speaker 7: in the building a little longer, so I mean you

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Speaker 7: can't really get that much but in the building. But

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Speaker 7: the days where I'm able to go and get the

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Speaker 7: most treatment would probably be Likedays and Tuesdays because Mondays

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Speaker 7: we get done around like two, so I'll go and

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Speaker 7: get treatment other than in the building outside of the

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Speaker 7: building as well, and then on a Tuesday, I'm probably

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Speaker 7: in treatment probably from like eight forty five to probably

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Speaker 7: like four thirty five o'clock in afternoon on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we we love hearing different guys routines. What

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Speaker 1: so tomorrow, what will that entail? What different things will

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Speaker 1: you be having done?

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Speaker 7: So I gotta go and get a massage first thing

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Speaker 7: in the morning. After massage, I either get like dry

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Speaker 7: needling or like some soft tissue work theously because obviously

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Speaker 7: you're not gonna be able to get a full body

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Speaker 7: massage and be able to hit all the spots correctly

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Speaker 7: and that little bit of time that you have.

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Speaker 5: So wait, so how early do you start?

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Speaker 7: Started eight forty I mean now forty five My massage

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Speaker 7: is at I go in there a little bit before

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Speaker 7: nine forty five and try to get some treatment before

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Speaker 7: as well too, And then after I'll probably get like

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Speaker 7: some dry needling done and some scraping done as well,

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Speaker 7: like the cups that you see where guys behind the bruising.

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Speaker 7: After that, I'll probably take like a break and go

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Speaker 7: home for like an hour or so east of food

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Speaker 7: and whatnot, and then I'll go back to the spot

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Speaker 7: the spots like five minutes.

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Speaker 1: From my house as well, so good planning.

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Speaker 7: I'll go back there, touch up on whether if I

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Speaker 7: do upper body the first half, then I'll go back

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Speaker 7: and I'll just.

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Speaker 2: Nail on the second half with lower body.

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Speaker 7: Then after that, if I got time, depending on whatever

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Speaker 7: my daughter has in that time, I'll try to make

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Speaker 7: it back to the store and try to get in

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Speaker 7: the cold hubs and hot tubs, and then after that

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Speaker 7: I'm kind of watching film and football throughout the rest

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Speaker 7: of where I mean when football and games stropped the

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Speaker 7: rest of the day.

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Speaker 1: And has that routine changed over the years.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't like that at first. When I

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Speaker 7: was younger, I used to go by saying, cheetahs don't stretch.

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Speaker 7: So you know, when you're young, you feel like you

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Speaker 7: just wake up and go out there and run around

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Speaker 7: and play. So treatment for me wasn't as you know,

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Speaker 7: heavenly as my schedule. But you know, after obviously the

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Speaker 7: injuries and the older I got, I realized I wasn't

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Speaker 7: superman like I thought, and recovery process as far as

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Speaker 7: getting my muscles back took a longer, a little longer,

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Speaker 7: So that's what made me kind of get to this

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Speaker 7: because I was like, man, I can't keep going out there,

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Speaker 7: you know every time, I mean for the weeks and

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Speaker 7: not being able to feel like my hand strings is

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Speaker 7: the same as it was when I was twenty one

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Speaker 7: twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: So I try to, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, obviously take notes from guys on the team too,

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Speaker 7: because you know, I've been around a lot of guys

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Speaker 7: that played in the league long time, and you know,

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Speaker 7: guys that I feel like eventually have a chance of

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Speaker 7: being in the Pro Bowl, like I've been around Andrew

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Speaker 7: Luck obviously, Steph Gilmore who was here last year, Zach Martin,

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Speaker 7: Guys like that that you know, they ain't Pro Bowls

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Speaker 7: for no reason. So I kind of try to hear

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Speaker 7: with stuff that they kind of take into their schedule

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Speaker 7: that they feel like might have made them feel better

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Speaker 7: for the week, and you know, kind of just run

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Speaker 7: with it. If it makes me perform, well, then it's staying there.

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Speaker 7: If it doesn't, then I'll try to change it and

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Speaker 7: do something else that I feel like fits whatever benefits

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Speaker 7: me for that week.

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Speaker 5: What's been like the craziest thing that you've heard from

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Speaker 5: one of those players as far as treatment.

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Speaker 7: Getting in the cold tub up until my neck. I

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Speaker 7: used to not do that. Like, man, the cold tub

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Speaker 7: is it's kind of it's a rough day because not

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Speaker 7: only is it cold, but they I don't get in

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Speaker 7: just the cold tub where it's just like the float,

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Speaker 7: the floating and all that.

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Speaker 2: Like, I get into the ice tub worder pouring the ice.

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Speaker 1: In there, Like what does that do for you?

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Speaker 7: I mean it's painful in the moment, but afterwards, I

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Speaker 7: mean I feel refreshed, I feel like but really, yeah,

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Speaker 7: to each his own. When I first got in the league,

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Speaker 7: I was one of them guys that I felt like

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Speaker 7: it didn't work for me. So then as time went on,

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Speaker 7: I started doing it more and more, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm starting to see the difference from getting in the

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Speaker 7: cold tub and contrast and not doing it for me

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Speaker 7: as I got older.

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Speaker 1: So do we compliment that with heat? It's like work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So the contrast is, so you'll get in the cold

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Speaker 7: tub for like three minutes, then you'll get out and

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Speaker 7: you'll get right in the hot tub for three minutes

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Speaker 7: and pretty much just go back and forth like five times.

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Speaker 7: And then after that, I mean you go into the koltub.

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Speaker 7: The last time. I mean for me, I go in

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Speaker 7: there after at the end for like seven eight minutes,

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Speaker 7: so you.

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Speaker 1: Just basically your mind is just basically slapping your body

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Speaker 1: around saying you will not pay attention to any of this.

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Speaker 2: Is that about right? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the good thing about it is, you know,

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Speaker 7: you take your iPad in there or your phone with

639
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Speaker 7: music and you kind of just try to just lock

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Speaker 7: in on that while you're in there, so you're not

641
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Speaker 7: worried about how painful it is. But once you hit

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Speaker 7: about two minutes, two three minutes have been in there,

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Speaker 7: you kind of don't notice, like it goes away or

644
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 7: just numb, and now you're just functioning as if you're

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Speaker 7: not in there at that point.

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Speaker 1: See, at my age, the great thing is when you

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Speaker 1: when I hear you talk about that pain of the coldtip,

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Speaker 1: I feel that pain, and I'm good. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't need to go experience that. I mentioned this earlier.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's so instructive for young athletes and

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Speaker 1: people to be able to appreciate the journeys that you

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Speaker 1: guys take. So you're drafted in twenty seventeen, right fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: picking the draft by the Colts and you're on top

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Speaker 1: of the world.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you're Superman.

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Speaker 1: Nothing's ever going to touch you.

657
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, that's how it feels.

658
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 7: You know, when you're going even like before you get

659
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 7: drafted and you're going through the draft process and you're

660
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 7: seeing all the rankings of you know, where you're possibly

661
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 7: going to be drafted at, and what are you ranked

662
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 7: in whatever position group R and whether you're the first safety,

663
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 7: you feel like going off the bord or the second safety,

664
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 7: like it's like the most amazing thing in the world

665
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 7: because you know, I mean, you know, a lot of

666
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 7: people know who you are and pay attention to you know,

667
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 7: whether it be the off the field stuff you're into

668
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 7: or whatever the case may be. But when you get

669
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 7: into the draft process and you're seeing so many people

670
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 7: reaching out and sending you messages like I hope you

671
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 7: come to this team or whatever the case may be,

672
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 7: like it's especial and there's nothing like it.

673
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, you definitely feel like you're on top.

674
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: Of the world and you were. Were you the first safety?

675
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: No, Jamal Jamal Adams, it was me and Jamal.

676
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but and your speed was one of the things

677
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: that people noticed about you at Ohio State, right, yes, sir,

678
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: And so was it in seventeen that you hurt your.

679
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: Knee as far as my ACL.

680
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I had first came into the league and I

681
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 7: played like the first seven games and I got and

682
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 7: I was playing well too at the time.

683
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: I think I had like.

684
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 7: Three interceptions back to back games, you know, playing pretty good.

685
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 7: You know, the team's winning at the time, and there

686
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 7: was a play going into the half where a guy

687
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 7: had like broken out on a run and I'm chasing

688
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 7: him up the sideline and as soon as I went

689
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 7: to playing, a guy kind of just dove into my knee,

690
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 7: and yeah, I ended up tearing my ACL and partially

691
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 7: tearing my MCL.

692
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 5: So what went through your mind at that point? Could

693
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 5: you go being on top of the world to then

694
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: being injured.

695
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 7: I mean that at first it really didn't bother me

696
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 7: because you know, I overcame so much as far as

697
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 7: because even coming out for the draft, I had sports hernia,

698
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 7: biladeral sports hernea and the hip labor that I had.

699
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 7: That's why I didn't compete in the combine. So I

700
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 7: was just more focused on, you know, just getting to

701
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 7: the rehab part of it, and kind of you know,

702
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 7: attacking ass I can get back and you know, so

703
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 7: you know, people why I was the fifteenth pick as

704
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 7: what I was doing before the injury.

705
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: By the way, hip labrum. It was only a few

706
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: years ago that I realized that we had labors, and

707
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was a shoulder thing. But when you

708
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: when you when you do something with that, careers have

709
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: ended over hip labor injuries.

710
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you did it in college, Yes, sir, I

711
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: did it.

712
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 7: I actually played with it for a little bit because

713
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 7: I did it, I want to say, like three games

714
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 7: before the last game, and obviously we was going into

715
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 7: the bowl season and everything, so I didn't want to

716
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 7: have to set that out because we had a chance

717
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 7: of competing for the national title. So what you did, Yeah,

718
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 7: And I kind of just was taking avid and whatnot

719
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 7: to try to make it through the day and you know,

720
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 7: pretty much accepting it for what it was and trying

721
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 7: to recharge for the next day. I mean, it was

722
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 7: looking back on it, it was definitely hard because there

723
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 7: was time throughout the week where I could barely walk and.

724
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: Run because of how painful it was.

725
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 7: And the pain like you don't feel it in your hip,

726
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 7: like it feels like you have like a growing injury.

727
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: So it felt like I had like a growing tear.

728
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 7: So once I kind of recovered from that and then

729
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 7: the acel happened, I'm like, oh, I you know, I

730
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 7: made it back from the hip surgery.

731
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Speaker 1: Right, there's nothing. Just give me a few weeks. I'll

732
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: be good.

733
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 7: Yeah.

734
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: So and then what year did you did you tear

735
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Speaker 1: your achilles?

736
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty twenty, twenty twenty, And that was another year

737
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 7: that you know, obviously I fought back from other injuries

738
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 7: starting to play well again. For like myself, I think

739
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 7: we played two games and then the second game, it

740
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: was like a third and long situation, like it was

741
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 7: like third and like twenty five or third and twenty

742
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 7: two or something like that, and we was in loose

743
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 7: cover two and I was the half safety and I

744
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 7: literally took like two walk steps back and they threw

745
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 7: like a check down and I'm going to drive and

746
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 7: go make a tackle as soon as I plan it, Like,

747
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 7: I just felt my my achilles pop instantly.

748
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: And I knew it was something.

749
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 7: So because of how what the situation was like, I

750
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 7: was so deep back that there was nobody around me,

751
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 7: so I knew it was something severance to me, who

752
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 7: was it.

753
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 5: That helped you kind of get through those times, because

754
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I know you said that going through injuries

755
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 5: kind of was like all right, like I got this,

756
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: But who was there to kind of help you as

757
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 5: far as being that support system?

758
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 7: I would say my mom and my siblings. I got

759
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 7: four siblings. I got two older sisters and two younger brothers,

760
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 7: and I would probably say they was the ones the

761
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 7: most because through those after I had did my acl

762
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 7: and I did my achilles, that was kind of the

763
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: harder time for me because of the fact of now

764
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 7: you know, it's injury after injury, and you know.

765
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: You don't nobody as now you're that guy.

766
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, don't nobody as an athlete want to be the

767
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 7: guy that they say, you know, injury prone or whatever

768
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 7: the case may be. So now I'm kind of, you know,

769
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 7: having a little doubts about myself. I'm like, no, I

770
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 7: played at the Ohio State all these years. Was I

771
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 7: there too long and it might have took a toll

772
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 7: on my body? Was it me being a multi sport

773
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 7: athlete coming into college or whatever the case may be.

774
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 7: It was just so many questions going through my mind

775
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 7: and then you know, in that time, like you don't

776
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 7: really get to be around your guys that much, Like

777
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 7: you're dealing with going to the rehabs obviously, the doctor's

778
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 7: appointments and stuff. So you're kind of separated from the

779
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 7: team unintentionally because of the stuff that you have to

780
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 7: take care of when you're in to get back to

781
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 7: being able to play. So now I'm feeling like I'm

782
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 7: not a part of the team, and you know, you're

783
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 7: seeing those guys, but you're seeing them real quick, like

784
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 7: they're walking to the meetings or to walk through and

785
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 7: you're kind of in there, and it's just like a

786
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 7: high and by.

787
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: So it makes you feel kind of left out.

788
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 7: And you know, definitely through those times, I've learned that,

789
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 7: you know, I can only control what I can control.

790
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 7: Because I wanted, I was beating myself up a lot

791
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 7: about it, and it was doing me no good.

792
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: It was just making me unhealthy.

793
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 7: It was times that I really would feel like I

794
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 7: was pushing you know, friends and family away because I

795
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 7: wouldn't want to talk about anything other than you know,

796
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 7: football or what I would have been doing if I

797
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 7: wouldn't have got hurt. So I say, my mom and

798
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 7: them because she kind of just put things into perspective

799
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 7: for me as far as like there's a lot more

800
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 7: stuff going on and just life then you know, me

801
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 7: tearing my achilles, Like as bad as it sound, there's

802
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 7: other people dealing with way worse. And I always try

803
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 7: to look at every situation that I'm in in that nature,

804
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 7: you know, like there's somebody dealing with worse. You know,

805
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 7: it could be worse, like in that case when I

806
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 7: first tore my acl my, you know, MCL like.

807
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: They could have gave up on me.

808
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 7: Then I had a chance to come back and you know,

809
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 7: perform again after that. And in that moment, I knew

810
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 7: I was gonna have a chance to prove myself and

811
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 7: prove to others again that I was able to come

812
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 7: back from that. And I did it, you know, thankfully,

813
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 7: gracefully that Dallas took a chance on me because I

814
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 7: came here and they made the process of transitioning from

815
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 7: another team and you know, coming back from the injury

816
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 7: so smooth that I really had nothing to think about

817
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 7: but coming in here and just being.

818
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: Who I was.

819
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: This is why we love Malay Hooker. Everybody. We're gonna

820
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: take our last break and We'll be back with more

821
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys Safety when we continue on the Cowboys Out.

822
00:44:04,000 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 6: Don't Cowards, No Cowboys, No Cowboys.

823
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Speaker 3: Stuff to the Miller's Lite Cowboys Out supported by Albertson

824
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: and broadcasting live from Sidecars Social at the Star Infra Skill.

825
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back on the Cowboys Hour Brad Sham with Nicole

826
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Cowboys Safety Malik Hooker. We have a microphone

827
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: here if anybody in the audience wants to ask Malik

828
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: a question. We also want to remind you when we

829
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: hope you'll come out to Sidecar Social next Monday night

830
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: and watch the game. There's great screens and there's seven

831
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: million of them. Have a great meal and something to drink,

832
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: but don't expect the show. Watch the game, and then

833
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: come back on Tuesday night because we'll be back here

834
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: Nicole and I on Tuesday evening. So hook you just

835
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Dallas giving you the chance to come back, and

836
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation before, but everybody doesn't get to

837
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: hear every single one of those. I find it instructive

838
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: if you would share with people what your level of

839
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: confidence in your shelf and your body physically was when

840
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: they signed you when you came to Auxnard and how

841
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: that got back to where you realized you could play

842
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: the game again at the level that was acceptable to you.

843
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was definitely, I'll say difficult for the simple

844
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 7: fact of like you're doing a transition of you know,

845
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 7: you're coming from a new team, you have expectations.

846
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: You don't know what the culture is in the locker room.

847
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 7: Because for me signing, I needed to know what type

848
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 7: of culture I was going into. I didn't want to

849
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 7: go somewhere where I knew that. I don't want to

850
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 7: say because there's not no bad guys in LinkedIn I've

851
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 7: came across, but that guys are very unintentional and you

852
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 7: know stuff that what it takes to win, you know,

853
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 7: whether it be like little stuff like being on time

854
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 7: or doing the extra meetings and stuff. And you know,

855
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 7: I had came on a visit one time. It was me,

856
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 7: JK Jay Ron Curse and it was KZ and when

857
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 7: we came down here, you kind of just seeing how

858
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 7: to flow with was and I liked, you know what

859
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 7: it was in the room. Like the guys that they

860
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 7: had all three of you, Yeah, yeah, we all three

861
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 7: d up signing that year. But guys like Donovan Willson,

862
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 7: you know, I got to meet him before officially signing,

863
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 7: and just the energy came off, like, you know, he

864
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 7: was going to do whatever it takes to win, and

865
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 7: you know, that's the type of culture that I wanted

866
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 7: to be around. And you know, I ended up coming here,

867
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 7: and luckily Jerry he told them, guys, you know, from

868
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 7: day one, to kind of take it slow with me,

869
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 7: to kind of ease me into the practice and everything.

870
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 7: So I really didn't even start moving and doing physical

871
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 7: stuff until probably like the second week of a training camp.

872
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 7: So that played a role too, because I still was

873
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 7: kind of, you know, not sure because I didn't do

874
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 7: like seven on seven or full footble activities still at

875
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 7: that moment, like I was still coming back from my achilles,

876
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 7: so the only thing I had been doing at the

877
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 7: time was just training with the physical therapist. So I'm

878
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 7: not sure really full will go how I was going

879
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 7: to be moving around, if I was gonna be able

880
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 7: to keep up with some of the guys. And you know,

881
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 7: it got to a point that, you know, when I

882
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 7: came on a visit, I knew they was gonna sign me.

883
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 7: I was just like, you know, I'm getting another opportunity.

884
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 7: Just go out there and be yourself. Like that's all

885
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 7: I could could really tell myself at the time, because

886
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 7: if I would have went out there and I would

887
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 7: have put all the load of having heavy expectations and

888
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 7: stuff like that on myself in that moment, then maybe

889
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: it would have been too much for me mentally coming

890
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 7: off of already being in a bad place mentally from

891
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 7: recovering from that injury. So I just told myself, like,

892
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 7: you know, football still the game I've been playing since

893
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 7: I was a kid, you know, treated as that, and

894
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 7: go in there, have fun and be yourself.

895
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: And it played off for me.

896
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 7: Know, I went in there and made some players start

897
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 7: training camp, and the more and more I got reps

898
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 7: and the more plays I made, it just it's like, man,

899
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 7: you're still the same guy that people thought you was

900
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 7: in the twenty seventeen fifteenth pick, and you know, from

901
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 7: there on, like just the culture of Dan Quinn in

902
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 7: that moment too, Like I always tell Q and I

903
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 7: still talk to him to this day that you know,

904
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 7: I thank him because you know, it's it's tough in

905
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 7: the league coming around coaches who truly leaving you, not

906
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 7: only just on the field, but off the field too,

907
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: Like Q was a mentor to a lot of guys

908
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 7: on the team.

909
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: Off the field as well.

910
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 7: And when you have that connection, it makes it that

911
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 7: much easier to go out there and play for the

912
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 7: coach that you know you're playing for. So I'll say,

913
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 7: just between those two and Q kind of giving me

914
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 7: the confidence, that's what made me kind of into the

915
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 7: player that I've been playing as here, you know, having

916
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 7: that confidence from the coach as well as coach McCarthy

917
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 7: because I'm from Pittsburgh too, with Coach McCarthy too, so

918
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 7: you know, just having them sit downs with him and

919
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 7: you know, him always bringing up just the hometown Pittsburgh,

920
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 7: tough football and coming in there and just you know,

921
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 7: doing whatever you can to win that you know, I

922
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 7: knew I was in the right place in the right moment,

923
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 7: you know, and I never looked back and took it

924
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 7: for granted.

925
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: Since I've been.

926
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 5: Here because of that, has the culture changed and if

927
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 5: it hasn't, what's stayed the same about it since you

928
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 5: first got here in Dallas And how much have you

929
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 5: appreciated the fact that it has.

930
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: Stayed the same. Oh yeah, I would say it hasn't

931
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: changed obviously.

932
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 7: You know, guys coming and out, you know, of being

933
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 7: on the team and stuff like that, like adjustments happening,

934
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 7: you know, players coming, and you know, I would say

935
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 7: that will be more of the reason why. You know,

936
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 7: obviously we had a heck of a D line room

937
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 7: last year. We have a heck up a D line

938
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 7: room this year as well. But this year, you know,

939
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 7: we're banged up with injuries, you know, so I would

940
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 7: say the culture doesn't really change. It's just you know,

941
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 7: the situations that come with football, whether it be injuries, suspensions,

942
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 7: you know, mental health, guy's taking off and stuff like that.

943
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 7: That's more of the adjustment than the coachure because cuach

944
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 7: is still the same. You know, Gods still you don't

945
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 7: believe in each other. And even now like with us

946
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 7: being in the predicament we're in with the three and six,

947
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 7: it doesn't feel like we're in that situation in the building.

948
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: You know, guys are still coming in there.

949
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 7: Willing to take coach and willing to go to work,

950
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 7: and it's just like guys are taking it as you know,

951
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 7: this is what it is.

952
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: You know, we got to come in here.

953
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 7: We gotta still put this work in and we still

954
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 7: got to do what we can to show up on

955
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 7: Sunday and try to turn this thing around. So it

956
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 7: makes it that much easier to want to be here

957
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 7: in the culture, to be so easy to buy into

958
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 7: because it's like there's always that whole you know, one play,

959
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 7: one change can change this whole thing around.

960
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: And that's what guys looking at it as what's.

961
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: Make Zimmer been liked through that? Did it take? He's

962
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: very different from Dan, Yeah, very different. I've known Zim

963
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: for a long time. How long did that take to

964
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: kind of get used to and how much did you

965
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: have an Al Harris still here help?

966
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 7: It actually didn't take too long to get to because

967
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 7: you know from day one he kind of made it,

968
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 7: you know, sure on what he wanted to get done.

969
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: You know it was you know where you're staying with him,

970
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: don't you.

971
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like it wasn't no great or like, you know,

972
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 7: coming in the first day he said was you know

973
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 7: what people thought of us, you know, they felt like

974
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 7: we couldn't stop the run game, which was what we

975
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 7: felt like as well. And he said, like be forty

976
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 7: years over, you know, we're gonna make that adjustment.

977
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to turn that thing around.

978
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 7: And you know, it was a little it was a

979
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 7: little dark at the beginning of the season, but as

980
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 7: weeks went on, like, we're starting to finally see that

981
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 7: turnaround that he's talking about. You know, guys are starting

982
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 7: to buy into the coaching and the little stuff that

983
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 7: we've been putting on the film room and on the

984
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 7: board that we need to get done.

985
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: And the last couple of weeks we've been knocking to

986
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: run off the park.

987
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 7: So we just got to keep stacking the days and

988
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 7: keep building off of that and keep rolling with the

989
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 7: momentum that we have right now on the defense. And

990
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 7: you know, I know, the offensive guys and the guys

991
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 7: that we got on offense, you know, those guys are

992
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 7: going to start clicking here soon. And once that happens

993
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 7: and we start playing you know, complacently, I mean complimentary football,

994
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 7: that's when things are going to start be looking up

995
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 7: for us.

996
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 5: We've talked football, we've talked your journey, but we want

997
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 5: to know who is Malie Hooker outside of the Dallas Cowboys.

998
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm pretty pretty cool, I guess. I guess you

999
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: could say that.

1000
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't really do too much I'm a big

1001
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 7: guy that likes going out to eat, Like I like

1002
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 7: going to try different food spots. My friends know that

1003
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 7: I'm pretty laid back and I don't really like being

1004
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 7: too much around a lot of people. I'm not a

1005
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 7: real people person as far as like just being in

1006
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 7: open spaces with millions of people. That's not really my thing.

1007
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 7: Like I like doing stuff to where it's more laid

1008
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 7: back for me. I like going golfing and you know,

1009
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 7: bowling summertime. I'm a real big corn hole guy too,

1010
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 7: so doing stuff that, you know, I can kind.

1011
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: Of just be at home in my own environment and

1012
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: enjoy myself.

1013
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: Are you better a bowler or a golfer?

1014
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: Probably golf golf.

1015
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 7: I mean I'm pretty solid in bowling, but you know, golf,

1016
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 7: and it's kind of like, you know, each year, I'm

1017
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 7: getting better and better. So I think that's kind of

1018
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 7: gonna be my next thing. Whenever I decide to hang

1019
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 7: the cleats up.

1020
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: How long have you been playing?

1021
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 7: Probably like three four years now. I'm not that good

1022
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 7: to where you know, I'm finna go out there and

1023
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 7: play all eighteen or hire mini holes somebody want to play.

1024
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 7: I'm not that good yet, but I definitely like getting

1025
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 7: out there and you know, just practicing my swing on

1026
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 7: the range and everything like that. So getting like I said,

1027
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 7: hopefully these next couple of years I really lock into

1028
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 7: it and really start to take it serious. But right

1029
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 7: now it's just something that I enjoy doing on free

1030
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 7: time with friends.

1031
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: Do you have your own set of clubs?

1032
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my own club I just got my

1033
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: own clubs last year. I got my own clubs.

1034
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 7: I don't got my own bowling ball yet, working on that,

1035
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: working on that. But yeah, definitely I'm probat of the

1036
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 7: two things.

1037
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: I like doing more.

1038
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: Who is it, Micah, who's the big bowlers? Something money

1039
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: out here?

1040
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: Oh?

1041
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 7: Man, listen, there's a couple of guys on the team

1042
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 7: that I think they're big bowlers.

1043
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: I think they're big bowl I think they're big bowlers.

1044
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 7: But yeah, MICA's one of them guys who carries his

1045
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 7: bowling ball in the car all the time. And thank

1046
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 7: somebody is supposed to be scared and no guys like me,

1047
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 7: I can go and bowl with the with the alley

1048
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 7: balls and still do what I do, So I don't be.

1049
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: Too worried about with your head game.

1050
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 7: Uh, probably like one sixty probably one sixty so and

1051
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 7: that was probably my best day, like that was a

1052
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 7: one time thing.

1053
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: And that's without driving around with his bowling ball in

1054
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: the car. Say thank you to my Lake Hooker for

1055
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 1: being with us tonight.

1056
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: Will you thank you guys. I appreciate you guys coming

1057
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: out to night.

1058
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Outstanding jobbing Nicole, and I appreciate your being here as well.

1059
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: And don't forget next week Cowboys play on Monday night.

1060
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: We'll be back right here at Sidecars Social the Star

1061
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: District in Fresco on our next Cowboys Hour.

1062
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,160
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1063
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,200
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