1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff from how Stuff Works. Hey, brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: it's Christian Seger. So our question for the day is 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: did the Brontosaurus exist? And the short answer, yeah, sure did. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: But like so many answers, this one spawns a lot 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: more questions. Is that really its correct name? How is 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: it related to the apatosaurus? Wasn't it given the wrong skull? 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: And if it did exist, was it delicious? Let's back up, 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to eighteen seventy seven. The confusion over 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: the Brontosaurus stems partially from confusion in biological taxonomy, but 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: also from a bitter rivalry of paleontologists. That's right, a 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: rivalry between friends turned enemies whose battle for fame and 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: power destroyed them. Both meet oath Neil Charles Marsh and 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Edward Drinker Cope everything about giving your kid a middle 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: name like drink. They became good enough friends while studying 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: natural history together that in the eighteen sixties they even 16 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: named newly discovered fossils after each other. But Marsh was ambitious, 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: like Slytherin, ambitious. When Cope showed him around a fossil 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: quarry in camaraderie, Marsh struck a deal with the quarry 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: owner behind Cope's back. All the fossils found there and 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: the profits attached to them went straight to March, and 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: it sparked what history calls the bone Wars. This was 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: a fiery race to find and published papers about new 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: ancient creatures. One of these creatures was the Apatosaurus A Jacks, 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: a huge plant eater with a long neck and tail 25 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: that Marsh discovered in eighteen seventy seven. The skeleton was incomplete, 26 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: but Marsh wanted the credit for finding it, so he 27 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: slapped on the head of another dinosaur found nearby, a Chimarasaurus, 28 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: in his published reconstruction. Then in eighty five, Marsha's fossil 29 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: collectors sent him a set of bones belonging to a larger, 30 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: long necked, long tailed herbivore, a more complete set. Marsh 31 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: decided it was a different animal and published his discovery 32 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: of the Brontosaurus excels Us. His illustration of its skeleton 33 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: was the first dinosaur sketch to receive wide lay circulation, 34 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: and it caught the public's imagination. His haste was understandable. 35 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: Cope was battling Marsha's superior connections by practicing what's been 36 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: called taxonomic carpet bombing. He would publish four hundred articles 37 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: in his fifty six years. The two former buddies slandered 38 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and sabotaged each other into financial and reputational ruin. Our 39 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: friends over at stuff you missed in history class. Actually 40 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: did a whole podcast to part in it if you 41 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: want a deeper dive. But back to the Brontosaurus. Shortly 42 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: after Cope and Marsha's deaths, a paleontologist studying Marsha's work 43 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: noticed that the Apatosaurus and the Brontosaurus skeletons were really similar, 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: so similar that the scientific community deemed the Brontosaurus Excelsus 45 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: an adult specimen of the Apatosaurus genus. So in nineteen 46 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: o three, Brontosaurus lost its official status, but museums, it seems, 47 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: didn't get the memo. Starting in nineteen o five, the 48 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: sauropods started seeing display around the world labeled Brontosaurus excelsus, 49 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: sometimes with a Camarasaurus head. It wasn't until the nineteen 50 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: nineties that these pervasive mistakes were corrected at large. But 51 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the story doesn't end there. In April of fifteen, a 52 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: group led by paleontologist Emmanuel Chop published a study analyzing 53 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: eighty one sauropod specimens, including precise measurements of four hundred 54 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and seventy seven different physical features. According to their findings, 55 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: they reported not only that Marsha's Brontosaurus excelsis skeleton had 56 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: enough differences to be considered its own species, but that 57 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: there should be two additional specimens in the Brontosaurus genus. 58 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: For now, the Brontosaurus isn't back for sure. It's up 59 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: to the scientific community to come to a consensus on 60 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: whether Brontosaurus and a Patosaurus deserve their own separate genera. 61 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: But the thunder lizard certainly wasn't a fake. Marsh was 62 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: just kind of a jerk. 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