WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Robin Thede 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.240 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:09.200 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:09.960 What up, y'all. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.320 It's Liyah from Quest Love Supreme. And on this classic episode, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.320 we're taking you back to November twenty ninth, twenty seventeen 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.680 for our first conversation with our good friend Robin Thti. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.960 Now this is before she was a big time show runner. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.840 Shout out to a Black Lady sketch show. This is 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.720 when the writer, comedian, and late night host talks about 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.320 her life in front of and behind the camera. Her 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.559 puppetry skills are hung and everything you need to know 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.320 about her past show, The Rundown. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.400 Oh and if you enjoyed this episode, you've got to hear. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.800 When she came to join us on this year's Roots 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.520 Picnic stage from June twenty twenty two. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.000 Oh yeah, that's a good one too. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.360 It's always fun with our good friend Robin. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:01:06.200 So enjoy Supremo Sun Sun Suprema Roll Call Suprema Sun 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.160 Sun Suprema, Roll Call Suprema. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:15.680 Son Soun SUPREMEA roll Call supremea Son Son Supreme role. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.319 She don't smoke beaties. Yeah, she was owned some CDs. Yeah, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.360 she's been to d C. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:27.679 Yeah, phone home with et hungry feeding fights me like. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:36.080 Michael Jackson here, tired, I see my billy g lines 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:41.480 to my key. Yeah, Phil, y'alls please leave me. Y'all 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.319 tired of me? He Yeah, I'm feeling needy. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:50.200 Yeah, I'm down with opp Yeah. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:53.240 Uh, I'll skip to the letter t E. Yeah, ladies 0:01:53.240 --> 0:02:00.320 and gentlemen, It's Robert Feede, Supremo Sun Sun Supreme Roll 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:07.240 So Supreme roll Car. Name is Sugar. Yeah. My life's 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.079 a dream. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.839 Yeah, except that one night. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:11.799 Yeah, I had to record five hundred of. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:12.680 Your name. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:20.520 Supreme Supreme Supreme roll Call. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.360 It was my name. Yeah, not a battle of arena. Yeah, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:25.799 I'm trying not to screw up. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:26.480 Yeah. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.480 Another Suprema roll. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:36.480 Supremo SUPREMEA roll call, Supreme Son Son Suprema roll Call. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:37.200 Hey. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.680 Yeah, and I'm raging mad, yeah. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:49.880 About angry white ladies. Yeah, Supreme SUPREMEO roll Call, Suprema 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.399 Suprema role Car. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.520 It's like and it's going to be a classic. Yeah, 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.960 rob Yeah, flat Girl Magic. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:08.400 Suprema Son So SUPREMEO roll Call, Suprema So Supreme roll call. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.280 Yeah, in my groove. Yeah, and I don't dance. Yeah, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:15.560 make money moves. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:24.400 Supremo Supremo roll came Suprema Son Son Supremo roll call 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.119 Suprema Son Supremo. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.919 Roll call Supreme Son Son Suprema roll. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.840 That was like fifty What the hell, yo, I did 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.640 not know so many things rhymed with my name. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:46.360 It was dope. It's because we really just wanted to, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.480 you know, reiterate that it is thid. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.560 Yes, I wanted to. I know. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.320 Yeah, we were all having I know, halfway through I 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:58.480 almost felt like I was in church. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.960 Yeah, indeed, it was like, it's very good. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:02.800 I hope you're a believer. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.400 Now, don't be needy. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:10.280 I forgot that, Okay, Jeff Tweety Wilco, I forgot to 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.920 shout out Jeff Tweety, Stevie Wonder. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.200 Yeah, that Beaty was brilliant. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:31.320 Michael Jackson, Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today is a writer, comedian, actress, director, producer, author, 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:37.160 chef Boxer. She's the current President of the United States. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.480 Box Exactly, you're the you're the president of the United 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.760 States right now I'm declaring that, uh, you're the former showrunner. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:45.719 What's happening now? 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:47.839 It was my crow. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:55.000 What's going, what's going on? Yes, you've been a butcher, baker, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:02.320 candlestick maker, the maker, breaker and title. She is currently 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.880 breaking new ground on BT's weekly news program called. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.599 The One Comedy Program. Oh okay, well based on the news. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.360 Well, it's just I don't want people. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.960 To think that I'm actually reporting the news because they'll 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:14.680 be very configured. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.560 But I assure you that the only way to digest 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.160 the news in twenty seventeen is through comedy. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:21.880 That is true. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.320 It's a very informative show. So I see it. I 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.039 mean you're the you're the new ed. Uh? Who was? 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.040 Can you please say that the black John Stewart and said, yeah. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.840 And gentlemen, please welcome to Black John. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.919 I take that back. Trevor Nor probably wants to be 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:45.360 good or he does the vaginal John Stewart. I don't 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:46.360 know anywhere. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:48.840 This show is going to be. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:49.880 Can I heard? 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:50.760 Yes? 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.640 Let's I think you're the host of the show. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.400 No, I am not the host of the show. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.920 You're please please, I just wanted to be casual amongst 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.960 six friends. You know, so our thank you Robin for 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:03.360 doing this. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.160 Thank you you know what. You guys are over here 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:06.720 killing it as always. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.160 Thank you. You're killing it as well. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.440 Thank you. You know. Listen, I'm two episodes in and 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.880 I feel like I pretty much mastered the craft. And actually, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.960 by the time this airs, I'll be like a good 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.200 like five deep, so I will have collected all the Emmys, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:28.080 all the Hoodies, all the is that yes, it is right, Yeah, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.160 so pretty much I'm on top of the world. Yeah, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:30.599 it's great. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.880 That's good. Listen, visit to a time when you were 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:34.800 in the bottom of the world. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:40.000 Oh god, now it gets I don't want to take 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.880 us back to the beginning episode, you know what. I 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.160 know everybody goes back to the beginning like no one 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:46.240 cares about the beginning. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.320 Quarter. Like the last two episodes. You know, he was 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:57.080 at the lag quarter. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.440 Do you know the l I not personally, but I've 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:02.960 heard tale. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.000 No, but I have to say, even when I met you, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.080 and this is the weird thing, like this is the 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.800 one super can't I hope to have a very super 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:16.400 candid episode of course love Supreme because I know Robin 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:25.160 well well, not like biblically, but I mean she's my pal, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.720 so you know, but I have to say that even 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.960 when you told me that back when we first met, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.120 that you were born in Iowa. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:34.640 I know it's weird. 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:43.000 Yeah, I will say that of the six black women 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.880 that I do know from Iowa, you know, yes, you're 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.040 you're the only one that's not in a certain industry 0:07:54.120 --> 0:08:01.240 farm porn. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:01.920 Is it porn? 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.960 That corn corn? 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.080 It's corn porn? I gotcha. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:12.360 I was suned out the most alarming rate of black 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.840 porno actresses what and alone. But but here's the thing 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:24.760 that would like wouldn't as blackborn and uh usually no 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:30.000 with with like mensa level intelligence, right, and it's it's 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.360 crazy to me. I'm glad you avoided. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.640 Well, first of all, that's rude that you're assuming I'm 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.240 not also doing that in my spare time. You don't 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.600 know what I'm capable of. No, yeah, I did not 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.520 know that statistic. Usually people go there's black people in 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.640 Iowa when they find out that I'm from and I'm like, no, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.280 I left, there's no more. Yeah, no, my mother is 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.760 actually you know this, My mother's the state representative. She 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.800 was the first black woman to ever be elected to 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.400 her district. So yeah, black people still make moves, you know, sorry. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.320 Doing that thing? So are there a lot of first 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.200 in your family? Because you already. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.760 I'm like eighteen first just first right now? 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.200 Yeah? Oh more than that? Yeah? 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:07.760 Yeah? Yeah? 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.199 Well what other first besides first show runner or. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.959 The first yeah head writer, black female head writer for 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.079 late night show? I was the first black female uh 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.400 to be the head writer at the cor Correspondence dinner. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.120 I can't wait to talk about. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.240 Yeah, I did not know that. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.880 Yes, I was the first. I think I think we know, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.640 we haven't confirmed this, but I think I was the 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.480 first black woman to be the head writer of a 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.080 daytime show and a night time show and a nightly 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.880 commis your daytime show? I was not the same time, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.760 but I was Queen Latipa's head right, A lot of 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.880 ship for amazingly, you only do things of us first. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.560 She used to work for a show that formerly had 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.160 the at QLs. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.040 Yeah that is so true. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.480 But because the show was dormant, now I have to 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:49.600 you know, it's fine. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:50.240 They don't need it. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.960 This this this pays to be friends with busin at Twitter. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.600 I just said, hey, guys, the show doesn't exist, no work. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.080 Damn you got them to delete their old Twitter account? 0:09:58.600 --> 0:09:58.920 Uh? 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:00.600 No, ARCHI I have known nothing. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:02.800 Are going to work? 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.680 Yeah, y'all, are you powerful quest love you are I try? 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:07.920 So? 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.520 Okay. So you grew up in a political family. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.480 Yeah, I did, And it was interesting because my dad 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.000 was actually a Republican. My dad is white. My mom's 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.960 black from the West Side of Chicago. My dad's white 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.680 from a farm in Iowa. He met my mother in 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.959 the seventies. She had a big ass afro. First day 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.559 at college, he said, I want her. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:27.880 She's in college in Iowa. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.680 Yeah, she went to college in Iowa from Chicago. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:31.800 Uh. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.719 And uh they met and been married forty forty ideas. Yeah, 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:37.600 they're still best friends. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:38.280 What is parents? 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.679 I don't what parents? Just like, I know, it's crazy, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.400 it's crazy. It's at a very unrealistic standard for me. Yeah, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.520 I was like, this is I thought this was supposed 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.640 to be forever, like every first boyfriend ID. I was like, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.839 we're gonna be together forever. And they were like, I 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.080 don't even know your last name. But yeah, so they met, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.160 uh and and yeah they're still together. But yeah, what 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.800 what was the question about? 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:06.200 Yeah? 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.600 None any but yeah, So my family was always political. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.719 My dad was a Republican growing up, and then by 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:17.160 the time George Bush Junior came in, he had came 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:18.040 over to the right. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:23.160 I was or, okay, so he's now yes. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.960 Now he's everybody's on the same team. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.520 Wow. Still yes, Like he just. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.839 Saw Trump and was like, hey, yeah, let's do this. No, no, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.760 he's like the he talks the mostion about Trump, like yeah, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.800 cause he's like, this is not the way it's supposed 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.280 to be. Because I think I said this the other 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.080 day to a group. I was like, I think white 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.280 people are now like, you know, like they look at 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.719 Trump and they're like, hey, hey, I don't want to 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:46.600 be associated with that. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:46.920 You know. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.880 It's like how all black people are like, hey, don't 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.680 you know, don't lump us all together. We're not the same. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.200 But now I think white people are starting to feel 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.360 like that because you can't tell a Trump supporter when 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.319 they're white, from you know, from a non Trump supporter. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:57.600 Right. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.800 So yeah, so it's good, it's good. My dad is dope. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.400 He has a family foot of black women. I have 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.640 two sisters, so it's just nothing but black ladies in 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:10.400 the family. Are you I'm in the middle, okay, yeah, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.360 so I'm the annoying. Yes, I was tapped in. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.679 So is this why you're yeah, where you are? Right? 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.880 Now, I'm sure, I think so. Like I'm a Leo, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.400 I'm a middle child, and my father forced me into 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.000 comedy very early on. He named me after Robin Williams. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.920 I found out after Robin Williams died, and I didn't 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.280 know that. But I was always funny and weird and 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.320 kookie and like I would always just imitate we you know, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.800 we didn't have cable, so I used to always just 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.040 you know, imitate like the news and like, you know, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.840 whatever Sitcom's wrong. So they always just thought I was weird. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.160 I just sit in a dark room and mimic everything 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.000 I saw on television. And then at night, my dad, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.800 like on the weekends, he would let me watch like Carolines. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.640 Used to have Carolines on Broadway used to have a 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.040 TV show where they would have like comedians on It 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.760 was like a two in the morning on NBC local affiliates. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.680 This would play right, And then we stole cable. We 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.040 lived in a trailer park. My dad Jerry rigged the 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.720 cable from the trailer two doors down and wired it 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.040 over the middle trailer to ours so we could get 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.520 cable to watch Thriller and so we could watch He 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.200 got it for the first time to get Thriller and 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.960 then he duct taped it, so we kept it for 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.840 a little while till somebody cut it. But the other 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.920 thing I remember watching, I know this is great. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.319 How did somebody, someone as in the cable company or 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.199 someone realized no, like. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.240 The neighbor we were stealing it from was like, stop 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.360 stealing our ship, you know. So so you know, Chuck, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.480 the park is wrong. People not nice to each other, 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.440 not neighborly, but but. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.120 So especially. 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.120 But no so so, so we got it to watch 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.680 Thriller and that was dope. And I hid behind my 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.920 Bible watching Thriller because I was scared and I thought 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.720 that I was little. I was like two, I was 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.400 like tiny, So yeah, it was scary shit. So but 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.079 I remember that, and then I remember later on when 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.680 we had stole cable a second time that we had. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.320 He used to let me watch what was the Show? 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.240 With Robin Williams and Whoopi Goldberg. It was the first 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.839 time I ever saw was So that was the first 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.960 time I had ever seen a black woman telling jokes 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.040 and I was like, yo, what is this? Wait? 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.680 So you didn't see the first stand up the Broadway 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.040 one when she played the I don't. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.960 I don't think I was online, Damn, Rob, I mean, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:21.680 I don't think I. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.920 Watched She's were her elders. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:30.680 I don't think. Sorry, Okay, yeah, I don't think so. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:36.920 Probably were you in high school in the nineties or no, I'm. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.040 Not gonna watch that. I wasn't even in the nineties. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.760 I made all this, but no, so so so I 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.000 saw her and then he let me watch. They showed 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.840 her one woman show on PBS as like an anniversary 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.640 special ever or whatever, and that's the first time I 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.440 saw it, and I was just blown away by this woman, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.920 like absolutely blown away. And then my dad like, let 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.680 me stay up and watch. I remember we could stay 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.920 up and watch s n L until the until weekend 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.320 update came on. Then we had to go to sleep, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.320 so we got to watch you know halfway through. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.040 Is that a time thing or do a continent? Yeah, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:08.760 it was a time. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.640 Thing for them. It was just like, okay, that means 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.000 at whatever time in the midwes. I think it was 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.280 like around midnight. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.640 We could go to sleep because I had to go 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:16.400 to church or something. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:16.760 Yeah. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.680 Yeah, we were in church three days a week, which 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:20.240 church is. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.600 That seventh day of venice, no three day. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.760 No, we were just like so because we were we 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.400 were in the perform Like the only way we get 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.200 performing arts was through church programs. So we were in 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.560 the acting group and like the puppet group. Oh that's 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:38.360 a whole other thing. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:44.840 All about the puppet group. Yeah, we had the mind. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:46.080 Yeah I didn't have the mind. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:50.320 Wait you no, no, not me, but I think you didn't. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.080 You just know when I was in the church band, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.400 can you explain the puppet group? 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.960 So I was in it when I was so thirteen 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.880 to like thirteen, fourteen fifteen. Every summer we were to 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.520 the country with this Christian puppet group called King's Kids, right, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.640 and my sister and I this is good's even better. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.360 So we were like Jim Henson school trained, like I'm 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.480 still a professional puppeteer, by the way, I helped the 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.960 Wyatts and I perfect his puppeteering skills and don't let 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.360 him tell you any different. So we uh, so we 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.480 went on the road for three summers and we got 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:24.880 really good. But my sister and I were the only 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.560 black people in the group, and so we had to 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.480 do all the voices and the use all the black puppets. 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:31.880 Where was your voice. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.360 Oh god, I don't remember. I honestly don't remember. I 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.080 did a bunch of them. You know, you just hear 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:38.040 me slip into weird. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.240 I don't know, Jesus, I don't know. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.000 But some of them were just like regular little girls. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.280 And then some of them were like weird because they 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.200 were like human looking puppets. They weren't all animals, hand 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.160 puppets or yeah, yeah, hand puppets. Well, I can't do it. God, damn, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.720 it's this podcast I would show you, which you have 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.920 to imagine. Yeah, so here, wait, can I teach you 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.360 guys a trick that won't help the whole audience at all? 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.280 Everybody hold up your hands. Okay, we'll physically describe it. Okay, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.840 so hold up your hand like that. So everybody's holding 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.280 up their hand like so basically okay, take pictures. Great, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.760 So basically everybody at home and within the distance of 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.119 my voice. So think about when you hold up your 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:16.920 hand to talk like a puppet. Right, so your thumb 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.520 is on the bottom of your hand is flat on top. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.560 Now just say hi, how are you? Everybody at home? 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.159 Do this too? Say hi, how are you move your 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.960 hand like a puppet? Would you all did it wrong. Okay, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:31.600 so you all fail, all right. So the professional trick 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.399 is to only move your bottom, only move your thumb. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.560 So keep your hand flat and then say hi, how 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:37.879 are you? 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:38.600 Hi? 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:39.479 How are you? 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:40.760 But move it down, don't move it up. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.359 Go hi Hi. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:47.200 Nope, opposite, move your thumb down. Hi hi hih. That's how. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:51.000 That's how a mouth works. And if you want to sing, 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.320 you could do that. Oh if that's advance shit, got it. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.560 But anyway, at home, try this. Keep it top of 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.000 your hand flat. Even the engineers in the other room 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:05.560 right now, keep this fat. Only move the thumb. Doing 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.040 the best job anyway. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.280 Yeah, wait, can we just spend one minute doing this 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.560 in silence, irust our audience right now? 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.640 Yeah, that's it's very hard. It took me years to master. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.960 So just move this and that looks real. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.159 Wow, that is awesome. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:25.119 Instagram page for video. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.640 Yeah it's cool, right, is an art to it? Yes, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.240 it looks crazy, it's not. I can also use my 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.159 other hand to make the hands and legs move. And 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.680 we went to we went through training, no the Jim 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.879 Henson School teachers. We went through actual profession. I'm actually 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.600 a professional, like certified Bubbeto, You. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.840 Were you not trying to make it to the children's 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:46.840 television workshop? 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:47.480 Yeah? 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.240 Did you not have those golds like Fraggle Rock? Wait, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.080 they certify puppeteers, dude, mafia. 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:55.600 They started clowns. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:19:00.480 Even even when Kevin first came degree in it, even 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.800 when he came to the Tonight show. I mean he 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.800 was saying that, you know, to get in Jim Henson's 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.200 it's the it's the Marionette equivalent of going to George 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:14.480 Lucas's uh school, Like it's fifteen people graduation ceremony. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.919 So I only have like a certification. I don't have, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.520 like the whole degree is that expensive? I don't remember 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.919 you didn't get a master's in moving your What is 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.879 it you're gonna use that you're gonna thank me? 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:28.960 What is it grant you? Like if you wanted the 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.400 audition for Avenue Q. 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.320 Or I have no idea. I don't think anything because 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.480 I can't sing either, So they'd be like, could you leave? 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:38.320 I don't know. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.280 I don't know actually Avenue Q. It would probably be 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.560 helpful if I could actually sing, but I would think 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.119 that they actually go through puppet training. 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.919 I have to say that. Oh wait, this is weird 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.800 paid bill. I'm about to tell the story of your 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.040 other job forgiving that you actually worked at for it. 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.040 I was like, wait, I got this ring you do? 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:58.720 Am I not wrong? 0:19:58.880 --> 0:19:59.120 I mean? 0:19:59.160 --> 0:19:59.680 Am I correct? 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.120 He is the Joe Ropos of Sesame Street right now. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:09.320 Whenever I watched them, they yeah, it's a yeah, we're 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:10.040 still talking with that. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.560 Yeah, I'm sorry. Podcast listeners, just fast forward this part. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.240 I don't know, just see us in three minutes really 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:20.320 talking about the next track. Yeah, you guys have chapters on. 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:24.200 These are you are you move on? Are your no? 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:26.639 Sesame Street? You know, I'm gonna get lost in at 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:30.000 least like there's a wormhole about to be minute rabbit hole. 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:35.000 So on Sesame Street. Are your puppeteers and well just 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.400 puppeteers Muppet tears? Are they licensed or no? 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.240 But it's the same, like fifteen dudes that dude like 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.000 dudes and ladies that do Sesame Street and the Muppets 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.320 and mostly other other other things are the same fifteen 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:46.960 or twenty people. 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.600 It is a mafia for sure, and they're like eighty 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.119 because once you're in, you're in, you. 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:56.000 Know, Like the guy who plays Grover also does ms 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.080 Piggy and Animal, and then the guy who does the 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.600 Swedish chef's hands is also the cookie monster still and 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.359 stuff like that. Yeah, that'll kind of cross breeze. 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.040 So what happens if all three of his characters are 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:06.760 in the same sketch? 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.040 They throw their voice around and they were prerecorded. It's 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:09.720 really cool to watch. 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:10.919 They're fantastic. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.840 Are there any out takes? Any out take footage of 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.320 them like just cursing, pacting a fool. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.240 I've seen them do it, we had them on but yeah, 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.199 they definitely do it. Yes, Sorry, I just don't want 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:24.920 to get him in trouble. 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.440 AVL listeners Listeners at home were also like silent talking 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.800 to each other like the question. 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:39.480 But I'm also like, they would just come do it 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:40.720 for you, haven't They've been on the show. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.560 I always come to the set whenever that. 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.240 I will Yeah, well, okay, when I do. 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.639 That thing, we do that thing, I will come. 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:54.119 So you would travel, uh at what part like Bible 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.080 belts or like, yeah, not a Bible belt. 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.560 We would take a van and we would all pile 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.679 in it and it said King's Kids on the side. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.640 How many of you, like fourteen of us? 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.879 It was a lot like fourteen ten or fourteen, and 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.240 then the funny thing is so one year so like 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.600 the first year was like we drove out to California 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.119 and did like West coast like you know, but like 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.240 like normal places, right. And then the second year, No, 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.640 first year we did the Midwest, so like Saint Louis, Chicago, 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.080 that kind of stuff. Second year, we drove out to California, 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.040 did some stuff like an Orange County. It's fine. Thirty 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.240 year they're like, we're going to Appalachia, Appalachia. 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.639 However, you said Jesus puppets in Appalachia. 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.840 No, they played black people, two black girls. Ok So 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.600 we were like and back then I was wearing a 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.439 big afro, like my hair was you know, big, you know, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.800 and we were like, oh okay. My mom was like, 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.000 how's this gonna work? And they were like, so what 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.399 we'll do is we'll just go into the churches first 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:48.760 and make sure that they're cool. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:50.600 We're not doing it. 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.560 And like, in hindsight, my sister and I was like, 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.760 this is crazy. Like there was a church where they 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.560 had to pull up and go in and talk to 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.600 them before we came in, and uh, they were not okay, 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.439 with us performing and we canceled the performance, and it 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.040 was those I don't know if you've ever been in 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.000 like Kentucky coal country and all that stuff Virginia. So 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:09.840 you go on these switchback roads where there's only one 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:11.800 lane and so the coal trucks are coming down and 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:13.600 you have to pull over when they come around. Like 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.320 it was some ship I don't ever want to see 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.200 again in my life, and the whole time it just 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:18.879 sounded like dinner. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:26.080 The Roots played a lot in Kentucky, right, Yeah, Actually, 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.960 I mean we I was part of a tour like that, 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:36.000 right where the day that we got. 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:40.760 Our official h offer for a record deal, A Hub 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:45.719 and I snuck out of the church tour that we 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.399 were on very similar to this where we were. We 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.679 were in obal in Kansas, like in the cornfields, Like 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:56.200 when I go to sleep, I'd hear like, yeah every 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.359 night going to sleep, Like it was that sort of 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:02.280 thing where you're just in the middle of America and 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:06.320 you don't know what you're going to be burning to 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.040 across the next day. Yeah. So it was like we 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.480 got a record deal and like he and I like 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.120 snuck out of that and went to the pay phone 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.320 to the seven eleven and called the gap and you know, 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.159 caught a plane at six in the morning, like we 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.720 went a wall. They were probably still. 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.520 Now they saw you on foul and they were like, God. 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:37.800 Damn it. I'm just curious about those church outings and whatnot. 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:44.200 Yeah, why, I mean, how. 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.560 Had Was it a repressive atmosphere or no? 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.800 It wasn't at the time. I think for me, it 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.119 was all we knew and the people were very kind 0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.879 and very still really good family friends, you know. I 0:24:58.880 --> 0:24:59.960 mean it was. 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.000 Which there was a hard break moment where like you're 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:03.960 disillusioned and. 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.400 You oh yeah, yeah, yeah that happened in college. Oh 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:07.879 just about like Jesus. 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.640 Sorry, yeah, just with the church. 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.200 Yeah yeah, yeah, with the church for sure. I think 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.000 at a certain point I just saw, you know, you 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.760 wake up to hypocrisy. That happens in anything, right, but 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.840 for churches. I'm like, Okay, I woke up to hip 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.520 hop and I was like, get out the church. No, 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.240 I I yeah. I think once I got older, I 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:27.680 got to college, I was like, oh, okay, I don't 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.359 need to be in the church this much. I mean 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.679 even I think later in high school. But you know, 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:36.040 my mom grew up Catholic. My dad grew up Lutheran. Like, 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.679 they just had a very strong religious background, and but 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.640 they also taught us that while we have this, once 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.800 we became adults, they were like, now the choice is yours. 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:45.919 We've taught you all the things that we know, but 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.800 you know, go forth and make your own decisions. So 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.119 for me, I think I just don't like that. I 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.040 feel like there's a lot of hypocrisy in the church, 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.760 like in religion, and I think that, you know whatever, 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.360 there's weird things in the Bible, you know what I mean, 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:00.240 There's just weird shit. 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.080 So I just feel like was guilt ever part of that? 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.960 Like once they once my church found out I was 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.960 doing music, right, you know, it's sort of like, so, uh, mirror, 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.800 are you uplifting the Lord in your work or is 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.840 it just like what I see on the Devil? Yeah? 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:17.360 Then I just stopped coming to church. 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.760 Because, you know, no, I think once people heard me 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.520 cursing in comedy, they were like, well, she's lost and 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.080 if she comes back, then fine, we'll see her on 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.719 Eastern I don't know, and I still I don't know. 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:27.359 I don't know. 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.760 I never had that guilt really. Also, I left home 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.840 and went to Chicago, and then I went to Northwestern 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.520 Second City like I was gone. You know, there was 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.480 nobody to like follow me and be like you. 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.359 And you didn't walk into college like that church girl. No, 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:40.399 I'm holding on to this. 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.160 No, no, no, no, no. 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:44.280 Yeah. 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.359 So what year did you go to Northwestern? 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.359 I will not tell you that, But it wasn't that 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:48.760 long ago. 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:50.400 Did we just had this conversation? 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.159 Well, no, because I just generally wanted to know, like 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.399 if we ever played her college or that sort of thing. 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.200 You're trying to find out if you get younger. 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:57.439 Wait. 0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:02.840 Wait, I've talked to you about this. He was in 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.280 the two thousands. Oh sorry, I understand. I see what 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:11.160 you're doing. I will tell this story. And I saw 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.000 before I met you, I had seen y'all fourteen times, 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.880 fourteen times, two of which I think were at Northwestern. 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.960 I remember, Do you remember this story? I don't. Do 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.600 you remember this night? Tell me how you were y'all 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:32.280 were playing? But oh god, what am I forget? 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:32.680 His name? 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.720 Not Cameron. It's a rapper with a c name, and 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.560 he wraps and he frees for a long time. Canada, 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.720 Thank you Jesus. 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.199 There's a big difference betwe I knew I was. 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.840 About to say the wrong name. So Cannabis was over whatever, y'all, 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.199 And this dude freestyle for forty five minutes. Do you 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.800 remember this? Was that what he would do? Because I 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:54.800 never saw him before in concert. 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:58.280 We've done it was so long an shows. Yeah, so 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.720 obviously this was like ninety eight ninety nine when is out? 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:02.480 Didn't you just tell you it was? 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.879 No, it wasn't it was later than that. Well, it 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.000 was later then when I saw it. 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.120 Okay, okay, well no, no, I'm yeah, okay, he had other Okay, okay, 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:10.800 but I remember. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.360 I would have told you. I was like, actually, that's 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:12.680 not right. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:13.600 We can edit. 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:18.760 Also, it was like nineteen sixty five. It's fine, It's 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.040 fine now they know I'm eighty. Thanks a lot, I'm 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.920 sorry forgiving thanks Amir. Wait, am I supposed to call you? Quest? 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.720 What am I supposed to call you? 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:25.760 On this? We know each other? 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.399 Are can I tell you? It is so weird to 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.239 talk about you because people are always like because I'm 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.080 always like my friend of me or did something something, 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.359 and they're like, oh, is he in the business, And 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.280 I was like, it's quest love, Like I don't know 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.040 how to like, do you know what I mean? Like, 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.560 I tried not to say your stage name because it's 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.560 the stage it's yes, and you can't just be like 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.120 so quest love and I were. 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:49.320 Yes. 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.720 It's such an annoying, goddamn name drop. It's the same 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.280 thing I called Queen Jana and people are like, oh, 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:56.880 you think you're cool, and I'm like, no, I just 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:57.800 don't call her queen. 0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.000 This is weird because whenever I talk about Marshall yes, 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:03.920 then it's like, oh, you think he's cool, you get 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:04.400 the car mark. 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.320 No you can't call him eminem. 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.280 Why don't you say m though that is a little extra? 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:09.880 Why not just say em because. 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.640 He makes you. I hate when people call me. 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:18.240 Correct even this is yeah, but it sounds like em 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:24.360 whenever I hear M right, thank you, thank you. Anyway, 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.360 we were talking about something else before I got up 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:31.840 onto the standard, but go ahead, just yell oh yeah, 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.720 oh yeah cannabis, So yeah, thank you. 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:37.640 I just ask you for something. 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.120 So cannabis was rhyming, and for the first five minutes 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.840 we're like, yo, this Zude's killing it. He's really free sounding. 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:44.560 He says, she. 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:51.640 Got a shirt on her she got and then correct, 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:58.200 We're like Jesus Christ right thirty eight minutes and we're like, 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.920 this might be your world record in history right now 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:09.440 forty five minutes saying the crowd is like, bring out 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.760 the room. And then y'all came out and ripped it. 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:13.360 Thank you. 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:14.120 Yeah, it was great. 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:15.000 I appreciate that. 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.160 I saw y'all everywhere. Man, I saw you in Chicago 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.720 a bunch. I think y'all. Did y'all come to Iowa? 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.840 You had to go back in those days, came to Iowa. No, 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:31.959 Iowa has probably the the maybe the fourth best record 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.400 shopping experience I've ever had. 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:34.160 Oh is that right? 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.120 Yeah? Because usually like those places that no one goes to, 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.960 I could just it's enough, Oh God, clean up instantly. Yeah. 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.920 So what else do you go to Iowa for corn 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.000 and porn? 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:52.680 You don't have to go there for the porn corn. Yeah, 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.200 you don't really go to Iowa for There's a lovely 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.680 place to grow up, sheltered from reality. But it's very affordable. 0:30:58.720 --> 0:30:59.360 I will say that. 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.520 Really, it's like a three bedroom house, it's like a one. 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.040 It's like going to North Carolina. 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.960 Yeah, you can easily get a three bedroom house for 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.080 like one hundred and eighty thousand dollars easily and like 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.040 a nice like a brand new, like new shit. 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.360 Yeah, like truth be told. 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:13.080 You know. 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:19.000 Uh, the towns that you have least expectations for are 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.560 probably just some of the best places to visit the. 0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.200 Worst weather because then you got hurricanes, you know, and Iowa. 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:25.920 No it's not real tornadoes. 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.800 Tornadoes, Yes, that is true, tornadoes and cold hurricanes. That's okay. 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.080 I know what you meant. I got you my head 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.640 unless saying climate change is real, it might be some 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:37.400 godamn hurricanes. 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.880 So second, what drove you to Chicago? The fact that 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.120 you got accepted. 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.960 To my Chevy Lumina literally drove me to Chicago. 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.160 I'm a sharp comedian, but I mean, like, no, that's. 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:56.040 Just the truth. I wanted to go to I wanted 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.760 to go straight to LA out of high school, and 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.880 my parents were like, please, don't you will do porn, 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.920 which now is why I see why you have that connection. 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:03.400 I want. 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.400 Uh, they were scared. They were scared. 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:10.840 They may have, yes, they may have. 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.640 So so you know, every summer I went to Chicago 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.680 because that's where my family went. Some of my mom's 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.680 whole side lived, so I was familiar with the city, 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.680 and I was like, they were like, don't They said, 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.800 they had just asked me two things. Don't go uh 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.800 straight to LA because they knew I wanted to be comedian, actress, 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.000 writer or whatever. But they said, don't go straight to LA. 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.720 Get a college education, and also, don't ask us for 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:37.000 any money. So I got into Northwestern and I said, 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.080 and they were like, please, don't get a degree in theater. 0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.440 You are you're already funny. Get a real degree, which 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.040 is rude, right, But so I got a degree in journalism. 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.440 I went to like Northwestern has the best journalism school. 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.120 They only let in like one hundred and eighty people year. 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.040 I got in and uh, and then I got my degree. 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.800 And then I got scouted by Second City because I 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.320 was running an improv and sketch group there for years 0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.120 and they they saw it, they heard about it. 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.640 What was the name of the sketch group, the box okay. 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.400 And still going on to this day, seventy five years later. 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.040 And so I, so I went to Second City. They 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.800 gave me a full scholarship to go to Second City, 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:16.680 graduated the conservatory, went straight to LA and uh, you know, did. 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:22.920 You have dreams of seeing Steve Higgins or larn coming. 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:23.320 In out door. 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:27.440 Because yeah, of course, for listeners, a lot of people 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:32.240 that you see on SNL Saturday Night Live, they'll either 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.520 be poached from one of three places. Either the Groundlings 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.960 in LA is there groundlings in. 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.280 New York Groundings The home of Growndings is New York Growndings. 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.040 And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was thinking UC Bright 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:46.320 There is no Groundlings in New. 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:47.520 York, Okay, So yeah. 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:51.840 The uc B here Growlings in lacon City was a grounding. Yes, 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.560 Miam Melissa McCarthy, A bunch of them are groundling, right, 0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:55.760 And I think. 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.880 New York is uc being established. 0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:58.200 By Amy Polar. 0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.960 Amy Polar the team. 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.760 Uh she had Second City Chicago, right, and my group. 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.400 Last Second City. So those three, those are the three 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:11.640 comedy universities that will guarantee you maybe half an audition 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:15.799 at Saturday Night Live? Did you many years? 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.560 Yes, that was the goal. It'll happen, absolutely, that was 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.000 the goal for sure. And I was there with a 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.799 bunch of people who are now famous and they were 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.240 my mentors, So Keing and Michael Key was leaving Second 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.400 City to go do Mad TV and now I fucking 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:38.200 dated myself, God damn it. But I was also twelve anyway, 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:43.600 and a bunch of great folks. So when I came up, 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.080 there was kind of a new crop coming through and 0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.560 everybody was like, Oh, this is going to be the 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.759 next class that goes to SNL, Like your class is 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.760 going to be the next class that did not happen. 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.239 And I didn't even get close to an audition. I 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.680 just wasn't in the right cycle or whatever, or back then, 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.319 I wasn't looking for black lady. 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:02.520 I was about to say, who was a black lady 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:03.640 this season? Because there wasn't. 0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.040 It was Ellen Claghorn, and then it was Leslie Jones, 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.640 like there was with Maya in the middle. That's literally it. 0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.879 But there was one more, uh what's her face? Who 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:17.080 passed away Sandley? But years ago what was her name? Yes, 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.920 thank you? 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.279 Yeah, damn. I remember a joke on the Apollo like 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.400 get your baby some cool lights, or she did a 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.359 joke about cool cigarettes. Oh did she a baby smoking? Yeah? 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.839 She wasn't on very long, but she was funny as shit. Yeah, 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.360 but anyway, so so yeah, so it never happened. I 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.600 went to LA. It took many, many years I didn't 0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.400 audition for Lauren until twenty thirteen. 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.320 WHOA that a long time? Damn? 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.040 But I was on other sketch shows. I was on 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.879 you know, Jamie Fox, Savy on Crocodile Jehan Fox. I 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.799 was a bunch of stuff that never saw the light 0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.280 of day. I did a sketch show with Mike EPs 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.759 for Comedy Central that never saw the world. You know, 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.600 I did a lot of sketch stuff. I wrote for 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.399 a lot of stand ups. I toured the country with them. 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:57.440 I wrote for sitcoms. 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.839 But did you wait? You're just here? Reminded me that 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.320 I too was on a failed pilot that almost didn't 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:11.000 make it. Uh, there was going to be a Black Saturday. 0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.200 I only remember because this is how we wrote break 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:19.000 You Off for Frenalogy. Uh. Who is the the black 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:24.520 comedy promoter? He did the Kings of Comedy Walter Latham. No, yes, 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.400 Walter Walter, yes. 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.000 Not No, it's not him. Though it's not him. I 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.200 know exactly who it is, and I am blanking somebody 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:34.799 google it, got to look it up. No, I know 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.399 who it is, and that's not Everybody's not a. 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:38.360 Charles King or nothing. 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:50.400 No, no, no, hold on Walter said, wait, he connects. 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:56.280 No, it's m It's M Latham. 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:52.839 Yea. 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.040 But once once the King of comedies, once the King 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:05.160 of comedy kind of blew up. Then Walter decided to do, uh, 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.000 to shoot a pilot. He wanted to do a black 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:13.920 SNL And it was like Earthquake and other seven or 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:21.600 eight other heavyweights that I'm forgetting right now. Earthquake, you know, 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.080 don't sleep Earthquake man's funny. He's funny. 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.640 Door is a hell of a reality show actors. 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.879 But back when we were again thirsting for maybe a 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.480 gig that could keep us in one place at the 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:40.279 same time. Uh, we were the house band, you know, 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.520 we were the s n L band for that show, 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.120 but it just never got picked up. 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.560 Lounge people always forget about that. 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.200 That was the best Tracy, that was. 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:55.080 The best anyway. So you reminded me that I forgot. 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.960 About and then that kind of came true right in 0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:58.279 a way. 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.920 Uh yeah, eventually I saw my future. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:03.280 Are you psychic? 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:10.480 No, I'm not. I'm also I'm thinking, I'm also remembering, Uh, 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.160 is this why I tried to kill this? Also, she. 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.279 Real because that's not because she really did that. 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:29.880 Her husband dude, like we we were, says she's an 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:35.480 Indiana girl. I understand it from Indiana. Yeah, said something 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:40.080 smart or unsavory, and then she took her ear rings 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.359 off and then she grabbed a weapon. Her husband had 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.640 to hold her back. The only good thing that from 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.040 that moment was like because music and she sat in 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:51.520 with us like that was the thing, like when you. 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.680 Go, yeah, how did you prevent a murder? 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:59.000 Her husband held her back, but she did the whole 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.279 like you don't know about me, motherfucker, and took her 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.359 shoes off and took her ear rings off, and it 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:05.520 was one she grabbed. 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:07.680 Wait butit did she really stab her husband? 0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:09.279 Wait? 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:09.839 Did he die? 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:10.239 No? 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:11.160 No, oh, that's good. 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:12.160 He protected her. 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:14.719 Why she was gone for a while after that whole 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.600 avunt Duet. I know you don't remember because you were 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:16.960 a child. 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.000 I was only born yes day, so I just kept 0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.560 getting younger every time. I'm not gonna be born until 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:23.120 this podcast. 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.000 So you went to LA what is it? 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.160 What is what? 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.840 Was the process of pounding the pavement? 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:34.200 Right? 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.319 So the nice thing was I went out there with 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.360 a one woman show about you know, just like playing 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.319 different character as and autobiographical. But what did I know 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:44.319 at twenty two? 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.200 Wait, yes, if you didn't see that will be one 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:48.879 woman show. 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.640 That's not as a kid people, Yeah, yah, that's not 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.640 as a kid. Here's inspiration her all day. So I 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.560 put a towel on my head and then I just 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:03.399 I literally pulled him Malania Trump and just did her show. No, yeah, 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:05.759 how did we let her get away with that? By 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.920 the way, But anyway, so yeah, I went out did 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.600 this one woman show and then I got seen by 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.080 Mike Epps's manager, Like I literally only did the show 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.680 like three times. And then I got seen by Mike 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:16.720 Epps's manager and he was like, Yo, you are so funny, 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.600 you should come right for Mike. And so I started 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.520 writing for Mike. We wrote up the sketch show it 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.839 didn't go and then and I was acting on it too, 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.520 and then uh, I went on the road with him 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.800 a little bit, started working. Then I met Jesse Collins, 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.640 who was, uh, you know, produces bt Wards and a 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.480 bunch of other stuff, and I met him, started writing 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.719 for award shows, and then I just got connected with 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.719 all these different comedians and so I wrote for all 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.120 these different hosts, Jamie Fox, Anthony Anderson, Chris Rock, Monigue, 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.040 Wayne Brady, Sam Jack, like literally everybody I've written for, 0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:51.200 every male stand up black comedian who was like at 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:52.319 the top of their game for sure. 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:57.719 How did you avoid the Hollywood shuffle or how did 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.960 you avoid the Chitlin circuit uh Land minds that are 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.560 usually there for comedians, especially for black comedians, like how 0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:10.000 did you avoid the some more route? 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:09.680 Right? 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.359 Well? Playing the CD bars and over? Like did you 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.840 start off in the comedy store in LA and no? 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.239 So that's the thing, this is how I avoided it 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.640 because I was a sketching, improv comedian. Even though I 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.799 wrote for stand ups, I never did stand up. I've 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.800 never done a minute of stand up in my whole 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.080 career nevertheless, really never, not once. 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:31.960 That's weird and w I know. 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.239 And I'm always in the comedy clubs always. Yeah, I've 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:36.480 never done a minute of stand up. 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.480 What do the comedians that you write for when you 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.279 tell them that or if you ever had that in 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.200 that conversation, do they ever what do they say about 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:42.879 that or do they care? 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.120 I've never had that conversation. I've always been funny, right 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.320 and always you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.719 to comedians. It doesn't matter, Like it's not there's not 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.000 a hierarchy. It's like, is she funny case she write 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:55.640 great jokes. The other thing about me is I have 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.680 a because I would sit and mimic those people on 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.440 television as a kid. I can mimic anyone's comedic style. 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.120 So I know how to write for somebody. If I've 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:05.480 heard five minutes of their stand up, I know how 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:06.279 to write jokes for them. 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:12.319 You're trying to tell me that the rundown is the 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:17.200 first time that you've consistently concurrently in a half hour 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.759 or however you take your show at an hour, that 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.280 you stood in front of the audience and dumb material 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.759 and told jokes in a non sketch acting way for 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:28.480 that amount of time. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.359 Yeah, wow, that's dope. 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:32.520 Wow that's rare. 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.040 But you got to think about it this way. I'm 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.280 an expert at stand up comedy because I've been doing 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:44.080 it for a long like two decades. I've been writing 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.239 it for years, but I'm a performer. Like even on 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.000 the Nightly Show, I was doing the same thing. It 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.200 was just like more sketches and like kind of panel stuff, 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.480 And like my whole career has led to this if 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.000 you look at the breadth of it, like, but no, 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:57.920 it is true. I guess if you think about it 0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:59.720 that way. Yeah, it was the first time I actually 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.840 did stand up. I don't know. I thought, yeah, that's true. 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.960 Because it's like trusting a food expert that's. 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:07.640 It's never cooked. 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:12.960 Oh my god, wait, I'm just talking about myself. You 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:14.520 sure did anute. 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.680 Wait a minute, you got food books and everything. Motherfucker. 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:23.160 I'm probably the only James Beard uh dominated exactly author 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.680 that's never cooked. That's weird. 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.560 No, you get it though, you know what I mean. Like, 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.160 so for me, it was like I it's kind of 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.680 better because I was on the road being a student 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.440 of every Like literally, I can tell you if you 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.480 give me a topic, right, like, I'm not gonna do it. 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:39.799 Listen. 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.200 This isn't like you know who's on the free but like, 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.319 but like if you if I'm okay. So if if 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.600 Trump does something crazy, right, so Trump goes after uh 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.040 somebody in the media, right, he goes after Jamel Hill whatever, 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.640 so she should be fired. I can tell you how 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.520 every host in late night is gonna make a joke 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:55.160 on it, all right. 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.840 So what was Steven Colbert saying so, so Stephen, Colbert 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.640 is gonna make like, like, okay, so if you go 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:03.560 for the gamut, right, So Kimmel is gonna make a 0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.640 joke that's probably okay. 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.799 It's the Jamel host. Well, he's not gonna do it right, right, 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:11.200 I picked I picked a black person. 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:11.919 A lot of them would. 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.000 It was like, Trevor does these funny like impressions. He 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.000 he does all these amazing voices, so he'll slip in 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.800 and do an impression. Colbert's gonna make a stude upside 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:24.160 down observation that's still silly. Kimmel's gonna make something that's 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.600 a little bit more of a fight humor joke, and 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.640 it's gonna take him down from A to B. Yeah, 0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.759 what do you say, Jimmy, He probably won't mention it 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.839 if Trump said it. Yeah, but yeah, but I mean, 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:39.239 but you know, it's like, but you have to be 0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.040 a student of the craft. So it was like, by 0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:42.640 the time I came in, I knew how to write 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.640 for Larry. I knew how to write like John. You know, 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.239 I'm I'm a product of the John Stewart family. He 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.799 was our executive producer at the Night They Show he 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.160 was with us all the time and he taught me 0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.160 a lot. And then Chris Rock, who's our executive producer, 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.680 Like I wrote for him when he hosted the BT Awards, 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.600 and he's been a really good mentor of mine since then. 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.040 And like the common theme is like, once you know 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.440 your comedy, especially in comparison to what else is out there, 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.319 then you can sell your product. And I knew I 0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:09.200 had something different. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:14.840 How do you feel about, at least the different classes 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.520 of comedy I'm curious about. Like in New York, I 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.520 know that the Brooklyn comics are seen as the you know, 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.200 alternative comics, and. 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.000 All do the same three jokes. It's really a joke. 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.839 I am open minded. I love them, and I think 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.640 some of them are pushing the boundaries. But like, if 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.799 you take a Brooklyn comic, like I'm talking like uh 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:41.719 straight up, like textbook Brooklyn, like ortismal cheese joke Brooklyn, 0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.680 and you and you take it anywhere else in the country, yeah, 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.880 you'll bomb. You can't take that to Uptown, you know 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.840 what I mean. You can't go to Atlanta with those jokes, 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.520 especially for black comedians. But like, what are you doing? 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.200 But at the same time, I also can't take some 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:57.920 of my Trump jokes, and that's why I'm not a 0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:02.759 stand up. That's why I created a safe space where 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.440 I can push my point of view in my comedy. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:07.640 But like, I'm not one of those people who can 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.319 go to any comedy club in the country and do 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.080 stand I just never had a passion for that. 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.759 So do you agree now Chris Rock thinks that any 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:19.080 joke should be able to work in all three mediums. 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.560 Well, he says it because he's a genius. It's not fair. 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:22.680 His opinion is not fair. 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.640 But I'm asking do you subscribe to that theory? Because 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.240 Brooklyn is the alternative world and then sort of north 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.920 of forty second Street is kind of I mean, I 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.080 don't want to be dismissed him say hacky, but I 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.800 mean that's where like Caroline's is and whatever, like you'll see. 0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:39.879 Like, what are you talking about? 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.600 Well, yeah, I mean I don't know. It's just that 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:47.320 they're so at the cellar in the village. Yeah, there's 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:48.279 such snobs. 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:49.040 Yeah they are. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.480 It's like Chappelle and Brennan, you know, those guys just 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.520 like they know everything. They're like old real hip hoppers 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.640 from like nineteen ninety two. Yeah, so I consider them 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:03.760 the highest quest loves, the higher, the hardest to praise, 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:09.040 the hardest to please, insatiable level of Ivy League comic. 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.920 And they look down on the Brooklyn Cats and they 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:16.680 look they kind of they're glad that they didn't go that, 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.000 you know, I mean, even though they respect those guys 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:23.799 like the Vegas whoever, the David Brenners are of this 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.919 generation like that work way up town and up the town. 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.520 There's a lot of class classes and classism in comedy exactly. 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:33.640 And then the chillin' circa you got all that. 0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.480 Yeah, it's Chris believes that. You know, Chris will go 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:42.279 to Outpost and try his stuff in that place, and 0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:46.480 then he'll go to the blackest club uptown. Do you 0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.560 think that every comic should adapt to that situation. 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.440 I don't think it's necessary. I think that it depends 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.239 on what you're trying to do. I think if you're 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.000 trying to be a legend, you're trying to be great, yes, 0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.920 and that that's Chris is great. He is a legend. 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:07.400 Like he's so smart, and he he never gets comfortable. 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:11.680 He's always challenging himself. So I think for him that works, 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.640 but I think there are other comedians whose thing is 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:18.239 so specific that they're just using stand up to get 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:21.319 in front of a larger audience anyway, And it just 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.480 depends on your goals. And I don't judge anybody, even 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:25.239 the Brooklyn commics. I don't judge them like they're gonna 0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.120 be great. They're gonna be the lead in a sitcom 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:30.200 party soon, or they're gonna, you know, have a weird 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:34.919 like uh, you know, single camera artisanal che artisanal chi show. 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.200 But yeah, I think there's a place for everything. That's 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.440 what's so great about comedy is it's so subjective. Like 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.600 one person can be like yo, like doo hug, he's 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.080 not funny, and then somebody else is like, what are 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.200 you talking about? He's a second coming. That's the great 0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.800 thing about That's the great thing about comedy. Like people 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.000 can watch my show and be like, oh, she's whack, 0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:59.439 but obviously they're blind and deaf. But yeah, I mean 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.239 I think there's something for everybody. I don't really judge it. 0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:04.000 I think as long as you have a good work ethic, 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.040 whatever you're doing, it's fine. 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:14.520 Okay, Well this leads for Laya, who is currently pounding 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.320 the pavement to when I'm not doing. 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.920 This, yes to be. 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.879 I was the girl that tonay and wanted to get 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:25.160 to tell you better. 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.000 Reference on this show. 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:30.720 Can I have joy in my life? 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:31.239 You know what I say? 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:35.920 Can't two black women? Sharonmal merrel every day? 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.839 So what would you listen? What would you recommend this 0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:46.000 interviews over the table turn? So what would you recommend to? Uh? 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:47.560 A young up? To start first of all. 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.200 With the whole myth of not for you young damn, 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:51.839 I'm trying to set you up. 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.920 Okay, born in nineteen ninety four, thank you true. Anyway, 0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:00.680 what would you recommend, especially with the advantages is it 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:05.520 advantage having you know, do you respect YouTube comedians and 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.520 at the time Vine oh god the Iowa which. 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.000 Damn no, no, no no, it was at the question 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:12.080 not at YouTubers. 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:17.960 See, in my mind I thought that. 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.600 Economic Look, I think it's good, but I think what 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.200 happens is, here's what happens to people who have been 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:26.000 in the game a long time. 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.320 Okay, Uh, you go out. 0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.120 For something, you're up for something, and then they're like, 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.080 we're gonna get this YouTube person. They're hot, and you're like, 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:37.640 but I've done all the professional things like I've gotten 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.120 a degree, or I've been in the streets, like I've 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.040 been in the clubs, like I've been doing all this, 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:44.080 like I've been doing you know, like I was in 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.719 nine sketch groups at any given time, like like like 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.439 for me, sketch groups and in Propalympic and Second City 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.840 were my comedy clubs when I was performing in writing. 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:53.759 So it's like I felt like I put in the work. 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.760 I didn't just turn on a camera in my bedroom. 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:59.080 But that being said, there are people who work hell 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.880 hard on you to but who makes millions of dollars 0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.320 so you can't knock the hustle. Yeah, there are people 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.200 making millions of dollars on YouTube, so I don't knock 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.600 the hustle. But I will say that I don't find 0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.839 like that a lot of them have longevity. There are 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:12.400 some that do. 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.640 So this is sort of like how someone my age 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:17.000 would see new hip hop and see like, okay, you're here. 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.279 Today the mumble something like somebody like me who's been 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.880 doing radio or her life looks at someone like you 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:29.160 that with a podcasted. 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:29.280 But I've brought you with. 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:31.319 Me, right, But I don't have the deal. 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:31.920 So it's just. 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:35.600 Personated, so we. 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:41.520 Cut her mic off engine. So okay, well, now this 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.799 is going to be since you're wise with your with 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:49.920 your words, looking at like you who's been trying to 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.239 she's been pounding the pavement. Yes, what do you recommend? 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:54.520 Are you doing stand up? 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.960 I forget my writing a lot. I've done some stand up, 0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.440 I've been writing more and I've been standing. 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.680 So how do you help someone find their lane? So 0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:08.480 and again, Okay, I know someone that is a very 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:13.759 talented person in the arts. I think I think he's 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:14.239 better off. 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.400 Why are you choosing your words carefully? You said we 0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.080 were being candid because. 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:27.200 Show I'm saying that I don't think he's marketable as 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:30.359 an artist, but I think there's a future for him 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.439 as a songwriter. And I'm trying to encourage them. 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.880 Yeah, but no one wants Brandon T. Jackson to write songs. 0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:37.919 I'm not going to name the person. 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:39.839 I was just trying to pull a name. 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.200 Listen, but what I'm saying is that you can you 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.719 can open any door that you want once you get in, Like, 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.080 you're not going to go through the front door. You 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.120 might have to come through the kitchen or whatever. So 0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.200 I'm saying that, Okay, if you you ramp up your 0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.719 songwriting skills, which are brilliantly brilliant, and you get a 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.680 public then yeah, you can write your own ticket. You 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.279 could be like I want to fly to the moon 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.400 next to get in. What I'm saying is, how do 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:11.239 you help a person? What do you recommend to someone 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:15.560 trying to find their lane? Like, maybe they're better at writing, yeah, 0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:17.959 or maybe they're better at directing, or maybe they're better 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:20.360 at being in front of the camera being a stand on. 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.399 How do you help them find Yeah? 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:24.120 Good question. 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.319 I think you just have to try everything, you know. 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:27.799 I think if you think you want to be a 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:29.480 stand up, you got to go be a stand up. 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.279 Like I was denying myself the fact that I was 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.279 a writer for many years. I was just like, no, 0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.160 I'm a comedian, I'm a performer. I'm just trying to 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.440 be on SNL. This is what I'm doing. But I 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.040 was writing for money on these TV shows and stuff, 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:43.879 and I was like, yeah, yeah, but I'm not a writer. 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.279 I don't know why. For years I denied that, and 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.560 then I looked up and was like, yo, I've been 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.480 writing a lot and I always perform on the things 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.160 I write on, So I never had to shut that 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.960 part of me off. But I don't know. For some reason, 0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.760 I had this weird shame about being behind the scenes, 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.920 which was odd because once I embraced that, my whole 0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.359 career opened up in front of the camera and behind it. 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.360 Is it shame or is also like can I do this? 0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.120 Because that's like also a whole level. 0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:08.440 It was. 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.120 Well, I always knew I was a good writer. I 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.880 just didn't think of it as a job, which was 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.160 disrespectful as shit to writers. But I just didn't have 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:18.800 that knowledge. You know, I went to public school. I 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.360 didn't have a lot of knowledge about this, about the industry, 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.040 you know, I went to public school in the Midwest. 0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:26.440 TV was like, what that was just like a weird dream. 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.480 So yeah, I mean I've always had this kind of 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:31.480 I talked about this the other day. I've always had 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.640 this kind of reckless confidence, Like I've always been like, 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:35.920 if I want to do it, I can do it. 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.239 But then I would convince myself, oh but I don't 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.640 want to do that. But then I think that was 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.000 just the fear talking, right. So I think if you 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:44.759 have a passion for it, you've got to do it. 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.000 You've got to just do it. I think the problem 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.000 with standup is you got to do it all the time, 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.640 right cause it's like golf. If you play for ten 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.080 years and you don't play for a week, you're terrible again. 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.120 Yes, I'm very scared, and you get more scared the 0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:58.719 more time you spend not doing it. 0:54:58.760 --> 0:54:59.080 Correct. 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:00.720 Oh, correct. 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.360 See Eddie Murphy, it's why he won't it's why he 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:07.239 won't come back on stage. I mean, he says it. 0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.640 I'm not that's just what he says. I can't be 0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:13.280 out here working out material as Eddie Murphy. I can't 0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:16.279 do bad jokes. But the only way you do a 0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.800 special is to go out and work out the material, 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:20.680 and they'll be bad. Chris is not afraid to do that. 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.239 Rock goes into club with a notebook and a pen. 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.279 He'll be like, I'm just gonna read some shit, you 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:27.680 know when he's working things out, and it's genius to watch. 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.239 But you know, if you're Eddie Murphy, how do you 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.280 do that? How do you go, as the living legend 0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.520 top of the game and go into the cellar or 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.720 stand up New York or wherever and tell some terrible 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:39.360 ass jokes? 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.399 So do you think we'll never see Eddie Murphy. 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:46.160 I'm just waiting to see if he's actually gonna do 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:47.160 coming to America too. 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:48.719 I believe it. 0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.160 I don't either. When he was gonna host the Oscars, 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.120 I was like, I believe, want to see it, and 0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.080 then he didn't, you know what I mean. He it's 0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:00.239 hard and I root for him, like I'm like, he's 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:04.400 the greatest living comedian period and I don't think that 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.960 there's any way to live up to that title. And 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.319 so I have you know, I have sympathy for him. 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:12.319 People feel different. 0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:16.720 Even the ten minutes he did at Kennedy said Kennedy 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:18.879 so dope, so dope, dude. 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.040 It made me so hungry. I don't care. If he 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:22.759 just got on stage your talk, I would pay all 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.799 my money. You can have all my money. But that's 0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:28.200 why he doesn't understand the love for him is so great. 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.759 But anyway back to you, just be Eddie Murphy, that's 0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:32.279 all I'm saying. 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:35.440 That's all you got to do, or just don't be no. 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:37.440 Look, I think you just got to do it and 0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:40.440 you'll find out. It'll take you where you're supposed to go. 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.319 But don't close the doors on yourself. And if you're 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:44.880 already writing, then what are you waiting for? You got 0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:47.399 three minutes in the book right now, five minutes, whatever 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:49.560 you got. That's all you have to do. People think 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:51.640 you have to go out and do an hour long special. No, 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.359 you work your way up. You do five minutes, then 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.200 you do eight, and then you go back to five 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.200 because those other three you find out didn't work. What 0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:57.759 do you not? 0:56:57.840 --> 0:56:59.120 Did you do this? But do you have some favorite 0:56:59.160 --> 0:56:59.960 clubs in New York? 0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:00.759 Yeah? 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:02.760 Look, I think stand Up n Y is really good. 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:04.520 Stand Up New York is great because they have a 0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.560 really good amateur night where anybody can get up. Go 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:13.080 to Stand Up New it's uptown and then no, I 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.520 think it's in the sixties, like Upper West Side, Cameron. 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:17.440 I think that's where am I getting it confused? 0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:18.040 No? 0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:23.760 No, no, no, no, no no yeah the media no, no. So 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.680 sant Up New York is a good one. Don't try 0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:28.080 to go to the cellar, no, like you know, that's crazy. 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.400 But there's also like NYU has like random comedy nights 0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:34.800 and stuff where like literally anybody can go up and 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:37.280 students are kind of a great crowd because they don't 0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:39.760 give a shit, and so they'll either laugh or they'll 0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:41.680 just won't even look at you. But either way you 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:43.760 can hear what you're You know what the thing is, 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.440 You need to hear what your jokes sound like on 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.480 a microphone. It's not about what they sound like in 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:49.880 front of a crowd, as much as you need to 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.840 get used to hearing them amplified, and you'll start writing 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.160 them differently because no matter how much you write them 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:58.080 at home, that ship, once it has an echo on it, 0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:01.560 you're like, oh, that that doesn't work. But honestly, like 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.600 it doesn't. Yeah, yeah, that's why they do that, right, 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:06.840 because you need to be able to hear the joke 0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:09.600 in the mic. It's not about the crowds reaction. People 0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:11.640 always think that's a joke about the crowd not hearing, 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.360 but it really is like, oh, my joke is not 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:18.160 working through this mechanism. It's interesting. There's a whole there's 0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:18.880 a whole thing. 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.080 I'll tell you my two secret Smurf spots. 0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:24.600 Like you okay he said it on the rest, Yeah, 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.080 because that's the small little places that any bar in 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:28.240 Brooklyn has an amateur night. 0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:29.760 By the way, I work out of two spots. 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:32.280 I say what now, Yeah, I do, which mean you 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:33.080 work out of two spots. 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:33.680 Oh you telling me this? 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.520 Yeah? Well, back when I was actively teaching, you're not in. 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:39.560 Like a yeah, go ahead, because you're not in a 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.520 comedy club. Comedy club, are you? 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.320 Yeah? I mean, but I don't do it as much 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:49.360 now that I'm not teaching this semester. But I as 0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:53.040 you hear three seconds ago, I mean the reason why 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.200 I write more and instagram more because it's easy for 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:59.120 me to communicate when I can control my words with 0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:03.280 my ten fingers. But I hate public speaking. So you 0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.200 go and you try to given the show. I lose 0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:07.160 sleep the night before whenever we do it, and they 0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.960 could be like even the Jimmy Jame and Terry Lewis show, 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.440 like I'm in the mirror like practicing, like like it's 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:22.720 like jury. Yeah, but yeah, our our our warm up 0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:26.960 guy Seth told me that the way to give over 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:32.960 your public speaking fear is to just tell five minute story. 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:39.720 So so you're doing like story slams and ship that's dope. 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:42.920 Story is also on the low kind of working. 0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:44.360 Out to where do you go? 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:47.680 Where you said, I don't want to reveal that because 0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:49.080 I don't want people judging. 0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:51.400 Me reveal stuff on this show. 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.920 You just said, I'm going to tell you the standing. 0:59:55.440 --> 1:00:01.000 Look, that's a running theme with this show. Just yeah, 1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:01.800 what they are. 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:05.960 It's the Apollo at the top of the empire, say building, 1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:06.520 it's real. 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:11.880 Wait, since you're on the subject, there's no there's someone 1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:14.600 that I am cheering for in the world of me. 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:21.800 Well besides you, Oh yeah, you're my hero. Jessica Moore 1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:26.440 is well just hilarious or just with the mess, just hilarious. 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:32.240 She is one of my favorite, uh Instagram comedian, Like 1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:32.880 what she's done? 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:35.720 Are you No, not Jessica Williams. 1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:40.000 She's just just with the mess or just hilarious is 1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:41.440 what she is on on Instagram. 1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:44.840 Yeah, she's even with Azelia Banks and everybody. 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:48.280 She Yeah, she uses all fifty nine seconds of her 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:56.520 Instagram account to do awesome crafted uh comedy bits where 1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:58.760 she kind of gives you the ratchet news of the week, 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:05.240 and it's to the point where that's my show's funny, 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:08.280 similar to what's his name? Who's who's like the star 1:01:08.360 --> 1:01:09.400 of Vine what's his name? 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.520 Yeah, he's in the movie with Sandra Oh my god, yes, 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.040 wait really yeah he did. He was in the movie 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:22.640 Oh my god was res Yes, he was in speed. 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:23.400 Oh my god. 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:26.960 Now we're all going to forget his Yeah, sort of 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:28.320 like how do you. 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:30.600 I didn't do it neither. 1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:36.920 Less less about how do you feel about graduating and 1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:39.360 kind of cutting the front of the bank line. What 1:01:39.440 --> 1:01:43.440 do you recommend to those who are now going to 1:01:43.520 --> 1:01:48.400 make their careers off of strictly YouTube and Instagram to 1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:49.600 get to come or. 1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:51.000 Is it just I don't know that. 1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:54.160 Wasn't that like trap music to me? 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:57.560 Or like, well, you said that pejoratively, but I don't 1:01:57.560 --> 1:02:08.080 think that. Yeah, I don't. I don't Northwestern, Please give 1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:10.160 me my credit. I got that degree. Ok, Yeah, I 1:02:10.160 --> 1:02:13.720 don't know. I think whatever they choose to do is 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:15.680 remains to be seen. 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:16.760 I don't you know. 1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:21.000 Francesca Ramsey is a fantastic YouTube star who's got a 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:25.120 pilot she's shooting out for Comedy Central, and like, you know, 1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:27.760 I just kind of just I don't know. I keep 1:02:27.760 --> 1:02:29.560 hearing that they all get these shows, but then I 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:31.160 don't know what's going to happen. Like Joanne the Scammer's 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:34.080 doing a pilot for Netflix, Like I'm so excited, excited, 1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:36.600 I know, but I don't know, Like I never see 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:38.040 these things come to the light of day, and I 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:40.600 wish I would. So I don't know what the disconnect is. 1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:42.000 I don't know if it's because they don't know the 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:44.760 business a lot. But like Francesca is the person I 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:47.040 think has a really good chance of making it because 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:49.720 well she's already made it, but like somebody who can 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:52.080 really translate over to TV because she's been in the business. 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:53.640 We hired her at the Nightly Show, brought her on 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:56.479 as a correspondent, like she's done the kind and she's 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:58.960 like a writer also. But some of these people, I 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.120 don't know if they write, but if they know TV, 1:03:01.200 --> 1:03:02.320 I don't know if they know how to make a 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:02.960 product for Tagua. 1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:07.320 But what I'm asking is the definition of quote making 1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:08.040 it right? 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:09.960 It's different at the end of. 1:03:09.880 --> 1:03:14.120 The ellipses, is making it that dot in our world, 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.840 which is the standard that we've known of long form comedy. 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:22.440 But what if that medium that they're doing now is 1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:30.040 going to be the standard of which we digest our entertainment. 1:03:30.160 --> 1:03:32.400 Yeah, well, I mean I think we'll all have to adjust. 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:35.360 I think late night comedy on streaming and on demand 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.800 has proven to be tough. You know, Chelsea's show just 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:38.320 went down. 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:41.640 I'm shocked about that because I thought it was doing 1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:42.200 the numbers. 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:44.320 I don't know if it was or not. She said, 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:46.040 she made it sound like she made the move to 1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:48.080 focus on activism, so it may have just been her choice. 1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:51.080 I'm not sure, but I think Bill Night is the 1:03:51.080 --> 1:03:54.680 only other one that has a streaming talk show, So yeah, 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:58.400 I don't I'm not sure. Like right now, for Late Night, 1:03:59.080 --> 1:04:02.760 it seems to still be a TV game, but digital matters, 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:04.680 you know, to go viral, but you have to be 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:09.200 on a TV terrestrial platform to uh crossover to the 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:12.720 digital viral platfor it's weird, But yeah, I think I 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:16.680 think there's a lot of TV like comedy that's happening 1:04:16.720 --> 1:04:19.520 on streaming that's really funny. I mean, look at Kimmy Schmidt, 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:21.440 you know, look at those are people who are comedians 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:24.400 whoor you know, who definitely translate. So I think there's 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:27.320 a room for everybody. I didn't answer your question move. 1:04:27.160 --> 1:04:32.080 On show now, but yes, what it was like to 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.480 go from being a writer to now some writer who 1:04:34.560 --> 1:04:36.840 writes for folks and now you write for yourself? Like, 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:38.040 what was that transition like? 1:04:38.040 --> 1:04:39.080 Can you write for yourself? 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:40.880 I mean, like, but now you're like a performer. 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:45.480 Some people always ask that question, but I never stopped performing. 1:04:46.080 --> 1:04:47.560 It's like when people ask Eddie what was it like 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:49.800 when you fell off, and he's like, check my resume. 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:52.320 I always made movies. Every year he's made a movie. 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:54.640 That's what's crazy about Eddie Murhy. But anyway, I just 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:56.800 really put myself in the same sense as Eddie Murphy. 1:04:56.880 --> 1:05:01.320 Forgive me, Forgive me Black Jesus. Yeah, so I've always 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:02.680 been performing. Even when I was head writer on the 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:04.120 nightly show, I was still on the show like three 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:04.760 nights a week. 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:07.400 So you're like the focus, it's your show. 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:09.240 I tend to think I was the focus on everything. 1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:09.560 I asked about. 1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:10.560 That's clear, and I've learned. 1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:12.280 Thank you. 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:14.800 And how snobby were you at choosing writers for your 1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:15.320 own show? 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:18.560 Verry Verry, Well, I will actually answer your question. It 1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:20.480 is different when it's on you, for sure. 1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:23.240 And how different is it that you're the star of 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:26.360 the show and you answer to a showrunner a head writer, 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:28.720 as opposed to where I was going to go with 1:05:28.760 --> 1:05:31.000 it before. You just skip the damn line of the 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:34.360 question of you being a head a head writer for 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:38.520 Larry's show before you got your show? What's easier? 1:05:38.800 --> 1:05:40.080 Your question was so confused. 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:44.440 I'm blessed, I'm lost, I'm lost to you. Anyway, my 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:50.040 question was before you got your own show, you were. 1:05:49.880 --> 1:05:53.440 The head writer that question, yeah, okay, yeah. 1:05:53.280 --> 1:05:55.880 No, he said, he just skipped to your show. 1:05:55.800 --> 1:05:58.760 As if it was in the context of Bill's question. 1:05:58.840 --> 1:05:59.840 But I understand it. 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:02.800 Why aren't we all hide because some of us just 1:06:02.800 --> 1:06:03.919 aren't smart enough to get high. 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:06.480 Anyway, I'll set up for the next minutes you five talking. 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:13.080 Get what you're saying, Larry Wilmore. 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:14.840 No, I got it. I got it. So uh to 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:17.240 answer your question, I think that, uh, the weight, the 1:06:17.280 --> 1:06:19.040 weight is on me now, right, And I've talked to 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:23.080 all the guys and Samby and Larry said, yeah, it's 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:25.959 different now, huh, which kind of answers your question, which 1:06:26.080 --> 1:06:28.920 was like, he said to me, you thought you knew 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:31.800 what the weight was on me, you know, when you 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:34.400 were my head writer. But it's different now. And I 1:06:34.440 --> 1:06:37.520 was like, you're so right, and there's nothing that can 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:39.919 explain it except by being in that position. There's something 1:06:40.200 --> 1:06:42.680 like as his head writer, I wanted to take care 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:44.360 of him and make sure he had the funniest jokes 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:46.560 and keep the writers organized and keep them happy, and 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:49.160 keep him happy and just make a great show. My folks, 1:06:49.400 --> 1:06:52.480 focus was on doing whatever made him the best comedian 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:57.280 to give the best show. And now it's like, I'm 1:06:57.320 --> 1:07:00.360 looking at people to do that for me. But the 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:04.160 problem is I came with all of that experience, so 1:07:04.200 --> 1:07:06.560 I think people expect more from me, Like I'm not 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:09.960 like the helpless talent. So the problem is for me, 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:13.160 I have to break myself of the head writers show 1:07:13.280 --> 1:07:19.000 running like you know, tendencies for sure, because and I 1:07:19.000 --> 1:07:21.320 think we're still finding that, to be honest, because I do. 1:07:21.400 --> 1:07:22.680 I'm trying to be in every meeting and they had 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:25.160 to be like, get out. You know, Colbert had said 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:27.960 the same thing when he got his new shown. They 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:28.600 had to kick him out. 1:07:28.680 --> 1:07:31.520 I knew it. I think that being the star of 1:07:31.560 --> 1:07:34.240 your show and always use this this ray crop Ronald 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:39.320 McDonald example, But I feel like as Ronald McDonald as 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.720 the face of your product, I mean, I know, I'm like, but. 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:50.160 God, damn you and your clown. You're right about that 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:52.800 now the show is over. 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:57.480 No, But I feel like when you're the face of 1:07:57.560 --> 1:08:02.080 your product. When you're Ronald McDonald, you should let Ray 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:05.840 Kroc be Ray Crock. You should like Boss Bill is 1:08:05.960 --> 1:08:08.840 Ray Kroc? Which one is Ray Crock? 1:08:11.080 --> 1:08:12.040 Oh that's right, the movie. 1:08:12.080 --> 1:08:13.160 I'm sorry, I thought he's one of the. 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:19.320 Ray Crock Yes, okay, Michael, Michael Keaton. 1:08:19.760 --> 1:08:24.200 Yes, so what I'm saying, you make it sound like. 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:29.080 Better for all the time I've ever heard in my life, 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:31.920 all the time. 1:08:33.720 --> 1:08:39.080 I'm afraid of Stephen listening to this everything right now? 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:39.720 I love it. 1:08:41.000 --> 1:08:46.719 But okay, I know some people that can't let go. Yeah, 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:48.559 and they got to make every decision. 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:51.000 Yeah, it's hard for me about you. 1:08:51.120 --> 1:08:51.680 Oh you two? 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:52.320 Okay, so. 1:08:57.040 --> 1:08:59.880 Again, because it's easy for you to be in. 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:04.760 Or is it easier for you not? 1:09:04.920 --> 1:09:08.760 Look, I think I enjoy both. But uh, there's a 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:11.320 reason I created my own show after I left Larry Show, 1:09:11.400 --> 1:09:15.200 as opposed to, you know, going to somebody else's show. Actually, 1:09:15.240 --> 1:09:17.600 we need to tell that story. You know you are 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:21.519 an integral part of that story. But anyway we are 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:22.559 in order because damn. 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:22.639 I had. 1:09:26.840 --> 1:09:28.160 Would you have for breakfast this morning? 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:29.360 Tell that story. 1:09:29.400 --> 1:09:31.840 I don't get to eat it anymore. My sketch busy 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:33.559 now what did I have. I don't know. There's some 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:35.600 eggs I don't know. But the end of and the 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:37.840 end of that is that it is really difficult, and 1:09:37.840 --> 1:09:39.920 I'm trying to trying to take myself out of my meetings. 1:09:39.960 --> 1:09:43.639 But the thing is, I you also get this sixth 1:09:43.680 --> 1:09:46.439 sense when you are the host of a show, and 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:49.160 when you create a show, you can see everything, you 1:09:49.200 --> 1:09:51.960 can hear everything, you know everything that's going on. It's weird. 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:54.640 You literally have an extra sense. And people are like, 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:56.840 you don't miss a thing. And I can see, like 1:09:56.920 --> 1:09:59.840 when something's not working, I can see it an hour before, 1:09:59.880 --> 1:10:02.320 so somebody else sees it. And so my problem is 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:06.160 letting people not fail, but letting them find out that 1:10:06.200 --> 1:10:08.200 what they're doing is not going to work when I 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:10.400 knew it a day ago or an hour ago. You know, 1:10:10.520 --> 1:10:13.280 that's my problem. That's what I'm struggling with because you're 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:16.080 I don't know, I really have this weird. I don't 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:17.519 know how to describe it any other way. But I 1:10:17.560 --> 1:10:21.240 can see more now, and so that's hard for me. 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:23.200 I'm trying to figure out how to let people just 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:24.680 figure it out for themselves. 1:10:24.400 --> 1:10:25.400 So you trust it. 1:10:25.800 --> 1:10:28.800 I do trust them, though, I was going to say no, 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:32.200 I would tell you if I didn't know. And the 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:33.920 reason why I hired the person I hired is because 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:36.880 I've known him for years, and uh, I knew that 1:10:37.400 --> 1:10:40.280 whatever I needed, he was going to be there to say, hey, 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:43.640 step out of that, I got it, you know. So 1:10:43.640 --> 1:10:45.720 so you have to do that. And I have co 1:10:45.760 --> 1:10:48.479 executive producers who are amazing, these amazing teams of women 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:51.280 who are like they just have my back. So that's 1:10:51.320 --> 1:10:53.000 what's made it easier for me. But it's just a 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:54.920 personal thing. It doesn't matter how much people take care 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:58.080 of you if you're used to the one being, you know, 1:10:58.160 --> 1:11:00.519 being the one that making all the decisions. So it's 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:01.080 a process. 1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:04.120 Did you purposely staff your your writing staff? I mean 1:11:04.560 --> 1:11:06.840 this just feels like a dumb question. But with women, 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.200 did you make and then black women, because you know 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:12.960 there's been a whole yes and black and black female writers. 1:11:12.960 --> 1:11:14.800 There's not a lot this season on a lot of new. 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:16.519 Directs, and I have doubled the number, which I've done 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:18.439 twice in my career. I did it at the Nightly 1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:19.880 Show and then when we got canceled, and then when 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:22.360 I hired I have a room of uh, we only 1:11:22.360 --> 1:11:25.400 have one writer. My room is all black people, half 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:28.800 women and half men. And uh so yeah, I single 1:11:28.840 --> 1:11:31.920 handedly employed the most black women in late night and 1:11:32.280 --> 1:11:35.439 uh uh my staff is seventy percent women and people 1:11:35.439 --> 1:11:38.320 of color, which is crazy. That's never been done ever 1:11:38.439 --> 1:11:41.479 in late night television. It's heaven. When people come in. 1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:43.400 We have bottles of cocoa butter. A kid you not. 1:11:43.960 --> 1:11:46.240 We have it constantly. We introduced all the white people 1:11:46.240 --> 1:11:47.840 on our staff to cocoa butter. They're they're like, this 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.439 is a miracle. Somebody came in today. I said it 1:11:50.439 --> 1:11:52.760 smells like cookies. I said, that's the cocoa butter. I 1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:57.160 kid you that. Yeah, yes, yes, we have. We have 1:11:57.320 --> 1:12:00.360 like you know music, you know. It's just like it's fun. 1:12:00.400 --> 1:12:03.160 Like we had Amber Ruffin from Seth Myers and Ashle 1:12:03.200 --> 1:12:05.160 Nicole Black from Sam Bey on our podcast which we 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:08.320 tape in our office on Fridays, and they came in 1:12:08.520 --> 1:12:10.880 and Amber was just like walking around real slaw. I said, 1:12:10.920 --> 1:12:12.840 hurry up, come on, we got a tape. She was like, 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:15.160 I've just never seen this many black people in an 1:12:15.160 --> 1:12:18.080 office before. She was like, let alone a TV show. 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:19.720 She was just like, I don't know what this is. 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:24.400 This is crazy essen yeah show. Yeah, so it's dope. 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:26.200 I love it. I love that we've been able to 1:12:26.200 --> 1:12:28.639 do that because that's what I preached, like more black 1:12:28.640 --> 1:12:30.360 people need to be in this genre, like more black 1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:33.120 people behind the scenes in front of the camera. So, yeah, dope. 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:35.360 Who's the sister that used to be on Larry Wimore 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:35.920 with you always? 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:37.679 Which one Holly Walker franchise? 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:39.720 I guess it was Holly. It was Holly because you 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:41.479 two are seemed like to always be paired up. 1:12:41.560 --> 1:12:43.559 Yeah, we've known each other forever. She was she was 1:12:43.600 --> 1:12:47.320 one of my teachers at Second City years ago. She's fantastic. 1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:51.559 She's dope. She was a writer perform on the nightly show. 1:12:51.560 --> 1:12:53.680 She's dope. 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:59.360 The kind of political climate that we're living in. 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:01.920 Right now, I don't like this question. You want to 1:13:01.920 --> 1:13:03.639 talk about how you helped me create this show? 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:06.719 That's what we were doing. We forgot we forget it. 1:13:06.800 --> 1:13:09.880 Oh okay, how did I help you create the show? 1:13:10.800 --> 1:13:11.160 So? 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:12.599 So show? 1:13:12.960 --> 1:13:20.160 I hate shock, which is weird? Okay, so so so. 1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:23.519 I so the night they show have been canceled and 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:29.160 I was a little sad, and uh Amir texted me, 1:13:29.200 --> 1:13:35.040 I think it was like Chappelle eight o'clock, like, let's go. 1:13:35.560 --> 1:13:38.599 And I was like okay, but I mean I text 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:40.040 you back because I was like hYP but I was like, well, 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:41.920 I don't think you know this. I was actually really 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:44.000 sad and like I didn't want to leave my house 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:45.680 and I was like in pajamas and I was like, 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:48.080 fuck it, though, it's Chappelle, we got to go. So 1:13:49.200 --> 1:13:51.680 we went to go see Chappelle and you took me 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:53.880 backstage and you were like, you know Dave right, And 1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:56.320 I was like, no, we've never met. I know all 1:13:56.320 --> 1:13:57.680 these other commanis. I don't know Dave. 1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:02.920 So then Dave uh was like hey, and you were 1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:04.679 like hey, and you were like you know Robin right, 1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:07.160 and he was like uh and you were like from 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:08.760 the Nightly Show and he was like, oh right, both 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:10.840 of us don't have jobs, like this was just after 1:14:10.880 --> 1:14:11.439 the night Show. 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:15.760 And I was like hey, you're right. And then and 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:17.519 then he says what he always says to me now, 1:14:17.560 --> 1:14:19.679 which was a are you white? 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:23.479 What is you? 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.320 Are you white? And then he's like no, I'm just kidding, 1:14:25.320 --> 1:14:27.040 I'm just kidding. And so he said, what are you 1:14:27.080 --> 1:14:29.680 doing now that the Nightly Show is over, and I said, oh, 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.280 I'm actually gonna go. I think I'm gonna go try 1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:34.639 to work on somebody else's talk show. I've got some offers, 1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:38.160 because I had offers from most of the white dudes 1:14:38.160 --> 1:14:43.720 and Late Night and Thank You, and so I was like, oh, 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:45.280 I'm not gonna work on SO and soci show. And 1:14:45.320 --> 1:14:47.760 he was like, nah, do your own show. And I 1:14:47.800 --> 1:14:50.200 was like, but I feel like I need to, you know, 1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:51.760 be in it a little bit more, get my name 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:53.400 out there a little bit more. And he was like, now, 1:14:53.760 --> 1:14:55.280 go to your own show. 1:14:55.280 --> 1:15:03.000 And So Joe and So I'm going to record that 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:04.400 and make that part of our edit. 1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:08.560 So so I was like, Wow, maybe I should do 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:10.360 my own show. And then I don't know if you 1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:12.000 remember this, we were trying to meet up with Rock. 1:15:12.080 --> 1:15:14.439 This was a very like Hollywood New York night, but 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:17.880 we were trying to meet on the trope to completely question. Okay, 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:22.920 yeah right right, So you and Dave Schabelle and Spike 1:15:23.000 --> 1:15:26.080 Jones he was also standing there, and we were trying 1:15:26.080 --> 1:15:27.879 to go get chicken at the spot. 1:15:28.560 --> 1:15:29.320 You know, it's weird. 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:32.760 Yeah, you always take people to get always We've got 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:34.880 chicken many times. But yes, this was the this is 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:35.360 all right. 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:38.600 The weirdest thing about this night, yeah, was that I 1:15:38.640 --> 1:15:42.800 didn't realize that with Spike Jones until six minutes and. 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:44.920 You're talking to him. Yes, I remember you telling me this. 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:46.479 Yeah, I didn't know what spi Joe. 1:15:46.560 --> 1:15:48.280 I saw the emphany on your face. You were not slick, 1:15:49.720 --> 1:15:51.000 and then you were, and then you tried to clean 1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:52.559 it up. You were like, yeah, I just saw your video. 1:15:52.640 --> 1:15:55.000 It's so dope. 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:59.040 Yeah, are you that smart? I think I just know you, okay, 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:01.840 because he was very flattered. He could not have been nicer, 1:16:02.240 --> 1:16:04.080 but you were like in the video at all man, 1:16:04.120 --> 1:16:08.439 and then the treadmills that I knew you went extra 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:09.639 hard on letting him know that. 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:13.360 It was Robin know, I know, we gotta get married now. 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:17.640 So so so we went to go get chicken and 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:19.600 we couldn't find Chris or David. So it's just me 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:22.640 and a Mirr eating chicken. And the chicken was fantastic, 1:16:22.680 --> 1:16:30.120 but it was like. 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:27.960 Chicken right now, chicken? 1:16:28.680 --> 1:16:29.280 No, it was not? 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:30.280 No, what is that? 1:16:32.160 --> 1:16:32.360 Yeah? 1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:34.479 It was probably No, it was not. 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:36.120 It's a place where we have to go up the 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.080 rickety staircase. 1:16:37.880 --> 1:16:39.519 I love the chicken right now. 1:16:40.800 --> 1:16:42.080 Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I wasn't gonna 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:42.400 say that. 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:47.519 Like Robin, I actually do like you. 1:16:47.960 --> 1:16:48.880 Like you that's so cute. 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:52.599 No, I don't remember the first chicken spot I talked 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:55.000 about on our pilot episode. 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:56.160 Yeahs a cigaret spot. 1:16:56.560 --> 1:17:01.439 Damn only take the top tier bitches. 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:08.559 Was damn Okay, it's good that you remember it. I 1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:12.400 didn't remember. You remember that means I really like you 1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:13.000 as a person. 1:17:15.000 --> 1:17:20.760 Yeah, Himson, I wouldn't say the name or where it is. 1:17:20.800 --> 1:17:24.840 There's certain people I can't let me, let not them 1:17:24.880 --> 1:17:28.439 see me like throw down on yeah chicken. 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:29.080 It was. 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:35.600 First we ate the chicken on out. It was the 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:38.680 best we ever did. Remember that, Yeah, like this and 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:40.839 then after the chicken chicken, we'll put. 1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:43.800 You straight like yeah. Yeah. So so we went there 1:17:44.000 --> 1:17:45.960 and I don't remember how much we really talked about 1:17:46.000 --> 1:17:48.559 it that night, but I was like, God, I think 1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:51.360 Dave is right. So I had a meeting two days 1:17:51.439 --> 1:17:55.040 later at Jack's Media, who does full fun Toble sam Bee, 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:57.920 Amy Schumer's Inside of Me Schumer broad City. There's this 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:00.599 amazing production company and I was in there to meet 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:03.680 with them to run a different show. I was like, well, 1:18:03.720 --> 1:18:05.640 maybe I'll just go to meet with them about this 1:18:05.640 --> 1:18:07.559 sitcom whatever to like run it, not even gonna be 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:10.160 on it. And we were having this conversation. They were like, 1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:12.040 so if you were to do your own late night show, 1:18:12.120 --> 1:18:13.519 just like like we were just shooting the shit. I 1:18:13.520 --> 1:18:15.120 wasn't in there to pitch. I didn't have a pitch 1:18:15.240 --> 1:18:16.960 on me. And they were like, so, if you were 1:18:17.080 --> 1:18:18.360 going to do your own late night show, what would 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:19.840 it be. I was like, I don't know, probably just 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:24.280 everything I do, like sketch, you know, political satire, but 1:18:24.320 --> 1:18:26.599 also like pop culture satire because I care about what 1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:28.200 black China is doing as much as I care about 1:18:28.240 --> 1:18:30.639 what the president is doing. And they were like, that's dope, 1:18:31.400 --> 1:18:34.360 we'll buy it. 1:18:35.439 --> 1:18:36.880 So you were first for them too, because it's not 1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:38.559 you was the first piece of brown for that production 1:18:38.680 --> 1:18:40.640 company you say you name like Amy. 1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:44.280 Fernandez is Brown owns that company. But I don't think 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:47.160 they have any other shows with predominantly black people, and 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:51.400 that's for sure. But they did produce Top five and 1:18:51.439 --> 1:18:53.040 they so they got they got some stuff under that. 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:55.080 They have a lot of good shows. They're really great. 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:57.680 But they were like, yo, so cause I told them 1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:01.360 the story about Dave and then they said, oh, well, 1:19:01.600 --> 1:19:03.280 and your friends with Chris. I was like yeah, and 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.599 then they were like, well, we'll just call Chris. So 1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:07.639 I was like okay, and I walked out of the meeting. 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:09.240 I was like, that's not a thing, Like, that's not 1:19:09.280 --> 1:19:10.960 how you sell a show, right because I've been a 1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:13.120 picture show is my whole life, and I'm like, that's 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:15.280 not how it works. And then a couple of days 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:17.080 later they called and they were like, yeah, so yeah, 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:19.400 we're gonna make your show Chris on board. I was like, wait, 1:19:19.479 --> 1:19:22.599 Chris didn't even me what. I was like, you're not serious, 1:19:22.880 --> 1:19:24.479 and they were like yeah. We called Chris and we 1:19:24.520 --> 1:19:26.519 said Robin Thiety's doing a show. It's a mix of 1:19:26.600 --> 1:19:29.240 politics and pop culture. It's late night. And he goes yes, 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:31.680 and they go do you want us to tell you more? 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:33.960 And he goes no. I said yes, and we were 1:19:34.000 --> 1:19:37.280 like what. Like the way it came together was so crazy, 1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:39.720 and then we shot a pilot and then Network's bid 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:41.600 on it and we went to bet now we're on. 1:19:42.360 --> 1:19:44.880 Damn man. We all lived happily we did. 1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:47.120 That was perfect because it was nobody else to feel that, 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:49.200 like you really you were the answer, because when you 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:51.599 think about it, it's like, who else do you think about? 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:53.400 They could fill that void in that way. 1:19:53.479 --> 1:19:55.080 You know, I know a lot of women who could 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:57.120 do it. But the thing that Chris always says, the 1:19:57.160 --> 1:19:58.920 reason why he signed on to this so quickly is 1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:00.519 not because I was funny, because he there's plenty of 1:20:00.560 --> 1:20:02.759 people who are funny, but because he knew I could 1:20:02.760 --> 1:20:05.120 create and run a show, and he knew that when 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.120 it came to making the pilot and when it came 1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:08.519 to making the show, I was going to put people 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:10.240 in charge who were great. And he knows my standard 1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:13.960 or quality is like way high, so you know, I wasn't. 1:20:14.040 --> 1:20:16.080 And it didn't matter where we went. It wasn't like, oh, well, 1:20:16.080 --> 1:20:18.559 we'll make a good show for B E T. It's like, no, 1:20:18.720 --> 1:20:20.280 we're going to make a show that's going to rival 1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:23.400 anything else out there, you know, with whatever budget we get. 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:26.880 But you know, we wanted to make something that that 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:29.599 anybody could watch. But it was nice that we went 1:20:29.640 --> 1:20:33.000 to BET because BT only gave us two directives. They said, 1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:34.360 we want to make the show that you want to make, 1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:36.880 but it's got to be unapologetically black and add some 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:39.719 music every now and then. I was like, bet, great, 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:41.240 what network would tell you that. 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:44.360 There? 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:46.800 It really is. No, it really is. And they're they're 1:20:47.560 --> 1:20:51.120 they're really open to having things that they haven't had 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:54.320 or things that they've tried. You know, they tried the TJ. 1:20:54.400 --> 1:20:58.000 Holmes Show, but they didn't really try it with the comedian, so, 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:00.400 you know, I think they wanted something in this genre. 1:21:01.320 --> 1:21:03.240 And this was when Stephen Hill was still there, so. 1:21:03.960 --> 1:21:07.400 They needed something smart, like they needed smart cool at 1:21:07.400 --> 1:21:08.080 the same time. 1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:10.439 Yeah, I think they were really excited about what we 1:21:10.439 --> 1:21:12.840 were bringing in, what they knew I could bring to 1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:14.600 the network. And it was really a homecoming for me 1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:17.240 because my first technically my first writing job was on 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:19.360 the BET Awards. That's what got me into the Writers Guilt. 1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:26.080 Which year were you, I'm sorry a couple of years. 1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:29.120 No, No, that was my first BT Awards was two 1:21:29.120 --> 1:21:30.240 thousand and seven. It was with. 1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:34.719 You didn't throw jokes at I thought, that's. 1:21:34.520 --> 1:21:37.320 How No, that's how No. I met Chris Rock because 1:21:37.320 --> 1:21:39.200 of you. You told Chris Rock I was funny, and 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:41.840 then he hired me to write for write sketches for him. 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:44.040 I was already doing the BET Awards. 1:21:44.040 --> 1:21:52.880 But yeah, that's all I. When I die, you will 1:21:53.000 --> 1:21:54.599 realize that I'm a bridge. 1:21:54.880 --> 1:21:56.640 You told no. I was already going to work. So 1:21:56.640 --> 1:21:58.439 I worked for the BT Awards for like ten years 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:01.679 from two thousand and seven, like well, not till twenty seventeen. 1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:03.720 But I wrote many years in between that, and so 1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:07.040 when Chris was hosting, Chris hired his writers. But then 1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:09.839 they have other writers the right leg sketches and monologue 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:13.320 bits and or bits for other people. But Chris met 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:15.040 me when I walked in. I walked into the meeting 1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:17.160 late as fuck too. They had given me the wrong time. 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:19.640 Can I tell you this story? So no, no, no, no no, 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:21.320 And this was all me. This was all this the 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:23.479 noh to do with BT. I just read their email 1:22:23.479 --> 1:22:24.680 wrong and got there at the wrong time. And I 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:27.120 walked in and Chris Rock's sitting there holding court with 1:22:27.160 --> 1:22:30.720 like Leslie Jones and John Max, all these amazing writers comedians, 1:22:31.040 --> 1:22:33.600 and I walk in and I was like oh, and 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:35.320 I was like hey, and I literally it was one 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:37.600 of those things where I had to walk around everybody 1:22:37.640 --> 1:22:40.320 to get to the test where I cadish slow motion 1:22:40.600 --> 1:22:44.080 and everyone's staring at me. And I'm like, hey, everybody, 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:46.720 and Chris goes, who are you? And I was like, 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:50.599 Robin THEDI and he goes, Emir said you're funny, and 1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:52.640 I was like, well, he does have good taste, and 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:55.799 then the whole room started cracking up and he goes, okay, okay, 1:22:55.800 --> 1:22:56.960 But that was the test. It was like, if I 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:58.960 hadn't have said something funny to him, I think it 1:22:58.960 --> 1:22:59.840 would have been all down. 1:23:00.200 --> 1:23:01.960 Joe, Robin, can you walk us through because I'm so 1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:04.040 curious about the process of a war show, Like you 1:23:04.200 --> 1:23:05.640 just said, like it was a room of people and 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:08.519 then people certain people do different segments. Yeah, like how 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:09.320 does that work? 1:23:09.360 --> 1:23:11.599 So every host is different. Usually what happens is there's 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:13.840 an in house crew three to four writers who write 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:16.560 all the uh presenter bits and all the kind of 1:23:16.640 --> 1:23:19.000 connective tissue and stuff, so all the stuff that the 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:21.160 actors get up there and fuck up. You know, they 1:23:21.200 --> 1:23:24.320 work really hard for weeks on end to craft something 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:27.360 really funny, and then what ends up happening is the 1:23:27.439 --> 1:23:29.880 artists or the publicist or whatever read it and then 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:32.400 they're like, ah, client doesn't really want to do that, 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:35.240 and then it becomes like this weird amalgamation of something 1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:37.559 and then they get on stage and forget their glasses 1:23:37.600 --> 1:23:40.160 and then just say what they want. That's why a 1:23:40.240 --> 1:23:44.200 war show is making funny, Yes, because not for lack 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:46.320 of writing. Like people always like, ah be tenise new 1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:48.840 writers or whatever. It's like, no, trust me, the bits 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:53.120 are really funny, but just stuff goes crazy. Like I 1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:55.600 don't know. People just say what they want and but 1:23:55.680 --> 1:23:58.559 sometimes the bits work really well. But uh so then 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:01.200 the host comes and whatever the host is usually hires 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:02.519 their own team of writers as well. 1:24:02.760 --> 1:24:05.840 Do you recommend that I do? I do? 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:06.519 I do? 1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:13.519 Like, Well, that's because yeah, BECAUSEL has twenty five writers 1:24:13.520 --> 1:24:15.080 who are all at the top of their game. So 1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:20.040 and SNL is writing for a specific they know themselves 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:22.040 better than you know them. I think at SNL it 1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:24.240 doesn't make that much sense. But I think if you're 1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:26.599 hosting a wardsone where you're selling your personality and you're 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:29.400 the host, yeah, you definitely need your own writers. And Chris, 1:24:29.479 --> 1:24:32.960 the funny thing is people like Chris they hire writers, 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:36.320 but they don't need them. Chris Rock does not need writers. 1:24:36.520 --> 1:24:39.519 He comes in with material that's already killer three months 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.280 before the show. I'm telling you there's some comedians who 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:43.720 definitely need writers. 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:43.960 But. 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:48.240 Uh, and I am one of them. Let's be real. 1:24:48.640 --> 1:24:50.479 I mean, I'm a great writer, but I have to 1:24:50.520 --> 1:24:52.280 write my jokes, you know what I mean? Like, I 1:24:52.360 --> 1:24:54.320 need to craft my jokes. And I could. I could 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:55.720 absolutely write all my own material, But. 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:58.439 I like music. I think comedy you should bounce off 1:24:58.439 --> 1:24:58.920 of other people. 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:00.240 Yeah, I do too too. 1:25:00.280 --> 1:25:02.960 And there's no Kevin has that. Kevin will stand in 1:25:02.960 --> 1:25:05.479 the circle. Yeah, I mean his six guys will. 1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:08.880 Be like yeah, but Kevin's also very funny on his own. 1:25:09.120 --> 1:25:12.080 I wrote for Kevin too. Kevin's Kevin's very funny. And 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:14.160 you get Kevin something, you can give Kevin something like 1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:17.120 here's the cool thing. So, so Chris is like a wordsmith. 1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:20.640 Everything those words have to be in a formula and 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:23.120 he will mess with it for months, years until he 1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:26.160 hits a joke. Right, Kevin Hart. You can literally go, Okay, Kevin, 1:25:26.160 --> 1:25:28.479 here's the joke. The door is gonna open, and you're 1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:31.439 gonna say, well, I don't even know what time it is, right, 1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:34.639 and like, that's not a joke, right, But he will 1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:37.280 come in and be like, I don't do it, Kevin impression. 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:39.080 But he will come in and make I don't even know, 1:25:39.120 --> 1:25:41.040 you know, I don't even know what tap is, you 1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:43.720 know whatever. That's a terrible Kevin Hart. What do I 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:46.400 do not do? Impression? His body language and his body language, 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:49.200 his style, but also just that crazy ass voice. He 1:25:49.200 --> 1:25:52.880 can make anything funny. Really he really can't. I've never 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:53.760 seen anything like it. 1:25:53.800 --> 1:25:57.160 Is the voice important in comedy? The voice. Yes, I 1:25:57.200 --> 1:25:59.280 was gonna say, how long have you had you have 1:25:59.360 --> 1:26:01.680 this sort of ratchy Joan Rivers thing going on? 1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:03.000 I usually get Kathy Griffin. 1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:07.479 Okay, I can hear that now. Yeah, but she said, 1:26:08.479 --> 1:26:11.200 but I'm just saying how she was if you had 1:26:11.240 --> 1:26:17.400 this scratchy voice. Because you can go Jewish grandmother, you 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:23.800 can go hood, you can Italian grandmother. 1:26:24.240 --> 1:26:26.480 Yeah, still racist. 1:26:26.240 --> 1:26:28.160 Even more German grandmother. 1:26:28.520 --> 1:26:29.360 That is my heritage. 1:26:29.880 --> 1:26:30.120 Do that? 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:32.840 Yeah? How long have I had this voice? 1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:34.520 Jesus puppets? 1:26:34.800 --> 1:26:35.120 Yeah? 1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:38.680 Probably it actually changed when I had uh, when I 1:26:38.680 --> 1:26:41.719 stopped eating dairy. This is actually true, This is not interesting. 1:26:41.720 --> 1:26:44.840 Feel free to cut it. Ten years ago I stopped 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:48.360 eating dairy because it would make me sick and like 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:50.240 my throat would start closing up. And I realized I 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:53.639 was like definitely allergic to dairy, and my voice became 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.760 scratchier and less nasally. I used to kind of tongue like, no, 1:26:56.800 --> 1:26:59.840 I didn't, but like it did sound more nasally. Yeah, 1:27:00.080 --> 1:27:00.559 then I do. 1:27:00.720 --> 1:27:02.200 That, and now you're clear. 1:27:02.280 --> 1:27:05.080 That's crazy. Yeah, now I'm clear. I'm clear and raspy. 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:06.360 I see. 1:27:06.800 --> 1:27:08.080 I don't know. It's always kind of been this way 1:27:08.120 --> 1:27:08.479 since then. 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:11.439 Yeah. I mean, now that you're talking, this is the clear, 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:13.679 this is the salters. Your voices sounded. 1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:15.360 But what do you mean my voice is always sounded, 1:27:16.040 --> 1:27:17.240 But in the beginning. 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:20.400 Of the show, you had the Kathy Sledge. I know, scratchy. 1:27:20.520 --> 1:27:22.160 It's just because I talk a lot. Right now, I 1:27:22.200 --> 1:27:24.960 just came from rewrite, like our shows tomorrow, What did 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:27.160 I agree to do a two hour podcast the night before? 1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:29.599 I need to take what time you have to wake up? 1:27:29.600 --> 1:27:32.200 We have a tendency to keep your guest up way 1:27:32.320 --> 1:27:35.639 past this forever. It's ten don't look at you. Don't 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:36.040 look at you. 1:27:36.320 --> 1:27:41.280 Christ you got ten minutes, but can you? Guys are 1:27:41.400 --> 1:27:44.439 so fun? Thank you Steve picked up my hat for me. 1:27:44.600 --> 1:27:46.679 Thank you for introducing me to what's his name, du 1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:47.519 Duk Duckworth. 1:27:47.560 --> 1:27:48.719 Oh my god, don't busy. 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:51.040 Did you know? Did I know? 1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:52.759 Did you? Were you aware of Duckworth? 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:54.719 I know of d work he did what. I didn't 1:27:54.720 --> 1:27:55.439 know him personally. 1:27:55.439 --> 1:27:57.240 Did you see him on the show. Yes, Oh, he's 1:27:57.280 --> 1:27:57.760 so right. 1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:00.479 Yeah, I was gonna say, I love your your I 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:04.040 was kind of jealous of the music. Yeah, you told me. 1:28:04.320 --> 1:28:08.799 To do that little one hundred percent. I got his director. 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:11.240 It wasn't as fire, but it's a direct goddamn ripoff. 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:11.760 How about that? 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:12.200 Wait? 1:28:12.840 --> 1:28:17.639 Andre Allen, who did all music, is my show director. 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:20.479 That's why I look. I surround myself with greats. 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:24.240 That's what you need to show you're you're damn. I don't. 1:28:24.280 --> 1:28:24.920 I didn't come to play. 1:28:25.520 --> 1:28:28.800 You can't make it, But now you're not. Only are 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:30.559 you going to make it. I think you're gonna thrive. 1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:33.240 I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make get. 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:35.320 Especially if you keep dancing with the folks like yeah, 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:36.639 that's like as cool, like a dream. 1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:39.000 There's a body roll in every episode. It's my Afford 1:28:39.040 --> 1:28:40.960 Hitchcock moment. Look for it every episode. You'll see it 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:42.880 every episode. I don't know if you saw a Hairmaid's 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:45.080 Tale last week, but I body roll out a window. 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:46.800 Like I'm telling you you need to see it in 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:49.720 every This is something that you will totally geek out on. 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:51.800 Like if you just binge the show whenever you have time, 1:28:51.960 --> 1:28:53.640 you will see I body roll at least once in 1:28:53.680 --> 1:28:55.479 every episode. It's like a secret. And now we're like 1:28:55.520 --> 1:28:58.400 elevating where you'll find it. It's not in a regular place, 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:02.920 small as body rolls. 1:29:03.240 --> 1:29:08.880 Boss Bill is doing the fat Albert invisible. I am 1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:10.920 such a proponent of the body roll, right. I think 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:12.800 everybody should body roll twice a day. 1:29:12.960 --> 1:29:13.360 Correct. 1:29:13.400 --> 1:29:15.320 I do it all the time. But I kept doing 1:29:15.360 --> 1:29:17.120 it in these like sketches we were shooting and in 1:29:17.160 --> 1:29:19.639 the music and all this stuff, and they were like, yo, 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:25.080 everything we edit your body rolling. 1:29:27.000 --> 1:29:27.320 Damn. 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:29.080 Yeah, that's the Easter Egg, look for it. 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:30.040 I have a question. 1:29:30.200 --> 1:29:32.240 Yes, so I don't think. 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:35.879 What is happening? 1:29:38.120 --> 1:29:41.080 I don't. I don't think. I get b E T H. 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:42.840 No problem, that's no problem. 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:47.200 He does? What what channel? I mean? What srime? What 1:29:47.320 --> 1:29:47.920 day is it? 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:51.160 It's on Thursdays at eleven pm Eastern ten pm Central. 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:53.760 You can see it for free on bt dot com. 1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:56.719 Full episodes seven days from when we air, so between 1:29:56.800 --> 1:29:58.320 from one episode to the next you can see it 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:02.240 for free. Otherwise gotta log in. You can probably also bootlegged. 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:05.160 I don't know there were clips on YouTube. 1:30:04.720 --> 1:30:09.360 But yo, don't I really, I really don't want this 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:10.479 conversation to stop. 1:30:15.240 --> 1:30:17.840 Robin, are you saying? 1:30:18.560 --> 1:30:26.639 Uh? Anyway? I am single? That what are you looking? 1:30:26.680 --> 1:30:26.760 What? 1:30:26.880 --> 1:30:27.000 What? 1:30:27.000 --> 1:30:28.240 What is a what is a man to you? 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:28.439 Like? 1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:31.720 The perfect non perfect man? 1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:32.800 Mate? Oh? 1:30:32.880 --> 1:30:36.479 Sorry, oh ship, No, No, I like men. 1:30:36.560 --> 1:30:40.799 Okay, no, no, just trying to steer around. 1:30:42.080 --> 1:30:43.040 Her hetero vibes. 1:30:43.400 --> 1:30:46.920 So I just thought, right, I'm just saying that we're. 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:49.719 Trying to lure all the men with my hetero vibes. 1:30:51.320 --> 1:30:57.240 Woman, that's it. Men. 1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:57.760 You like. 1:31:00.240 --> 1:31:08.559 Your question? 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:11.040 She didn't answer. I have a question for you before we. 1:31:11.040 --> 1:31:13.160 Love the Tables, I want to ask. 1:31:13.280 --> 1:31:20.959 Okay, first, okay, what is your favorite Robin memory? Excuse 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:24.160 just know what. Everyone turned around and stared at me 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:29.799 right now. He's a sweating bullets, tiny bead of sweat. 1:31:29.960 --> 1:31:36.240 Listen, I had it was good for you, Jamie Fox, whoa, 1:31:38.479 --> 1:31:40.680 I am sorry? 1:31:41.640 --> 1:31:45.519 Sorry, look it up the best? All right? No, I 1:31:46.000 --> 1:31:49.120 have to plead the fifth on this because it's a 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:54.080 definite moment. But I can't say on the air because 1:31:54.280 --> 1:31:59.240 as the third person, I know what it is. 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:00.000 Can you tell the story? 1:32:00.080 --> 1:32:01.639 Does it involved Yeah? 1:32:01.760 --> 1:32:05.799 An inside flood? Oh you don't even remember. 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:08.759 Was that cosie for something? 1:32:09.400 --> 1:32:12.120 No, no, it's an actual flood that happened inside a building. 1:32:16.320 --> 1:32:17.479 It happened in Las Vegas. 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:21.240 There's Oh you were with us. 1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:26.040 Yes, I'm with you everywhere. Don't you just look to 1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:29.760 your left. I'm there anyway. Whatever that might have been it, 1:32:29.800 --> 1:32:31.920 But I know, actually I know what it is. All right, 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:34.639 Well tell a different story that you could tell. Okay, 1:32:34.720 --> 1:32:36.760 I'm putting you on the spot. It's fine. So you 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:38.679 know you have seven your stories about you, but it's fine. 1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:39.719 Yours are shorter. 1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:44.120 Yeah, well I literally told like sixteen personal Yeah, do 1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:45.240 it so he can still we'll be. 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:49.040 Robin. 1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:55.840 Thank you, Thank you guys so much. Relations Thank you. 1:32:56.240 --> 1:32:58.599 It doesn't sound girl. 1:32:58.760 --> 1:33:07.080 Don't tell sugar Steve. We will help you find bet 1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:10.320 We're gonna help you. 1:33:11.160 --> 1:33:11.720 Just help me. 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:16.920 Get to comedy comedy show bill. I'll make sure that 1:33:16.960 --> 1:33:19.160 the checks in the mill as always. Thank you. 1:33:19.960 --> 1:33:23.360 Cocoa butter, Yes, we'll send you guys some coco. 1:33:23.880 --> 1:33:26.280 You get some cocoa butter, and we in fante. Yes, 1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:27.759 we will be crashing your wedding. 1:33:27.960 --> 1:33:31.960 Yeah, Mary, Yes, aren't we missing someone? 1:33:32.040 --> 1:33:34.640 Yes, we're missing he's getting married right now. So thank you, 1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:43.400 I appreciate it, and we will see you on the 1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:45.599 next go around. The Quest Love Supremium. This is Quest 1:33:45.640 --> 1:34:04.880 Love signing off Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:11.840 This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 1:34:13.760 --> 1:34:18.520 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1:34:18.640 --> 1:34:20.320 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.