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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: What up, y'all.

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Speaker 3: It's Liyah from Quest Love Supreme. And on this classic episode,

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Speaker 3: we're taking you back to November twenty ninth, twenty seventeen

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Speaker 3: for our first conversation with our good friend Robin Thti.

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Speaker 3: Now this is before she was a big time show runner.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to a Black Lady sketch show. This is

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Speaker 3: when the writer, comedian, and late night host talks about

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Speaker 3: her life in front of and behind the camera. Her

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Speaker 3: puppetry skills are hung and everything you need to know

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Speaker 3: about her past show, The Rundown.

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Speaker 2: Oh and if you enjoyed this episode, you've got to hear.

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Speaker 3: When she came to join us on this year's Roots

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Speaker 3: Picnic stage from June twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good one too.

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Speaker 3: It's always fun with our good friend Robin.

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Speaker 4: So enjoy Supremo Sun Sun Suprema Roll Call Suprema Sun

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Speaker 4: Sun Suprema, Roll Call Suprema.

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Speaker 5: Son Soun SUPREMEA roll Call supremea Son Son Supreme role.

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Speaker 1: She don't smoke beaties. Yeah, she was owned some CDs. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, phone home with et hungry feeding fights me like.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson here, tired, I see my billy g lines

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Speaker 1: to my key. Yeah, Phil, y'alls please leave me. Y'all

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Speaker 1: tired of me? He Yeah, I'm feeling needy.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I'll skip to the letter t E. Yeah, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, It's Robert Feede, Supremo Sun Sun Supreme Roll

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Speaker 1: So Supreme roll Car. Name is Sugar. Yeah. My life's

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Speaker 1: a dream.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, except that one night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to record five hundred of.

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Speaker 3: Your name.

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Speaker 5: Supreme Supreme Supreme roll Call.

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Speaker 1: It was my name. Yeah, not a battle of arena. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to screw up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Another Suprema roll.

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Speaker 5: Supremo SUPREMEA roll call, Supreme Son Son Suprema roll Call.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm raging mad, yeah.

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Speaker 7: About angry white ladies. Yeah, Supreme SUPREMEO roll Call, Suprema

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Speaker 7: Suprema role Car.

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Speaker 3: It's like and it's going to be a classic. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Suprema Son So SUPREMEO roll Call, Suprema So Supreme roll call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in my groove. Yeah, and I don't dance. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: make money moves.

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Speaker 5: Supremo Supremo roll came Suprema Son Son Supremo roll call

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Speaker 1: Roll call Supreme Son Son Suprema roll.

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Speaker 2: That was like fifty What the hell, yo, I did

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Speaker 2: not know so many things rhymed with my name.

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Speaker 1: It was dope. It's because we really just wanted to,

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Speaker 1: you know, reiterate that it is thid.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I wanted to. I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all having I know, halfway through I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, it was like, it's very good.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're a believer.

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Speaker 7: Now, don't be needy.

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Speaker 1: I forgot that, Okay, Jeff Tweety Wilco, I forgot to

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Speaker 1: shout out Jeff Tweety, Stevie Wonder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Beaty was brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today is a writer, comedian, actress, director, producer, author,

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Speaker 1: chef Boxer. She's the current President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Box Exactly, you're the you're the president of the United

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Speaker 1: States right now I'm declaring that, uh, you're the former showrunner.

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Speaker 1: What's happening now?

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Speaker 2: It was my crow.

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Speaker 1: What's going, what's going on? Yes, you've been a butcher, baker,

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Speaker 2: The One Comedy Program. Oh okay, well based on the news.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just I don't want people.

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Speaker 1: But I assure you that the only way to digest

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 1: It's a very informative show. So I see it. I

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Speaker 1: mean you're the you're the new ed. Uh? Who was?

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Speaker 2: Can you please say that the black John Stewart and said, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I take that back. Trevor Nor probably wants to be

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Speaker 1: This show is going to be.

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Speaker 2: Can I heard?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Let's I think you're the host of the show.

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Speaker 2: No, I am not the host of the show.

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Speaker 1: You're please please, I just wanted to be casual amongst

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Speaker 1: six friends. You know, so our thank you Robin for

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Speaker 2: Thank you you know what. You guys are over here

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Speaker 2: killing it as always.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You're killing it as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. You know. Listen, I'm two episodes in and

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Speaker 2: all the Hoodies, all the is that yes, it is right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's good. Listen, visit to a time when you were

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Speaker 2: Oh god, now it gets I don't want to take

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Speaker 2: us back to the beginning episode, you know what. I

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Speaker 2: know everybody goes back to the beginning like no one

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Speaker 1: Quarter. Like the last two episodes. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: No, but I have to say, even when I met you,

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Speaker 2: I know it's weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say that of the six black women

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Speaker 1: you're the only one that's not in a certain industry

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Speaker 1: farm porn.

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Speaker 2: Is it porn?

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Speaker 1: I was suned out the most alarming rate of black

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that's rude that you're assuming I'm

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Speaker 2: not also doing that in my spare time. You don't

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Speaker 2: know what I'm capable of. No, yeah, I did not

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Speaker 2: know that statistic. Usually people go there's black people in

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Speaker 2: actually you know this, My mother's the state representative. She

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Speaker 1: Doing that thing? So are there a lot of first

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Speaker 2: I'm like eighteen first just first right now?

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Speaker 1: Well what other first besides first show runner or.

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Speaker 2: The first yeah head writer, black female head writer for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was the first. I think I think we know,

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Speaker 2: commis your daytime show? I was not the same time,

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Speaker 2: but I was Queen Latipa's head right, A lot of

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Speaker 1: She used to work for a show that formerly had

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Speaker 1: the at QLs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is so true.

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Speaker 1: But because the show was dormant, now I have to

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Speaker 1: you know, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: They don't need it.

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Speaker 1: This this this pays to be friends with busin at Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I just said, hey, guys, the show doesn't exist, no work.

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Speaker 2: Damn you got them to delete their old Twitter account?

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Speaker 2: No, ARCHI I have known nothing.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So you grew up in a political family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, And it was interesting because my dad

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Speaker 2: the seventies. She had a big ass afro. First day

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Speaker 3: She's in college in Iowa.

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Speaker 2: they're still best friends.

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Speaker 2: I don't what parents? Just like, I know, it's crazy,

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Speaker 2: None any but yeah, So my family was always political.

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Speaker 2: My dad was a Republican growing up, and then by

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Speaker 2: the time George Bush Junior came in, he had came

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Speaker 2: over to the right.

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Speaker 1: I was or, okay, so he's now yes.

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Speaker 2: Now he's everybody's on the same team.

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Speaker 2: he's like the he talks the mostion about Trump, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: cause he's like, this is not the way it's supposed

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Speaker 2: day to a group. I was like, I think white

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Speaker 2: people are now like, you know, like they look at

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Speaker 2: It's like how all black people are like, hey, don't

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Speaker 2: But now I think white people are starting to feel

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Speaker 2: like that because you can't tell a Trump supporter when

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Speaker 1: All about the puppet group. Yeah, we had the mind.

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Speaker 2: it's this podcast I would show you, which you have

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Speaker 2: That's how a mouth works. And if you want to sing,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, can we just spend one minute doing this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's very hard. It took me years to master.

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Speaker 1: Were you not trying to make it to the children's

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did you not have those golds like Fraggle Rock? Wait,

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Speaker 2: They started clowns.

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Speaker 2: Or I have no idea. I don't think anything because

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I got this ring you do?

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Speaker 2: Am I not wrong?

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Speaker 1: He is the Joe Ropos of Sesame Street right now.

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Speaker 1: These are you are you move on? Are your no?

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Speaker 7: But it's the same, like fifteen dudes that dude like

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Speaker 7: Know, Like the guy who plays Grover also does ms

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Speaker 7: They throw their voice around and they were prerecorded. It's

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Speaker 7: I always come to the set whenever that.

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Speaker 7: That thing, we do that thing, I will come.

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Speaker 2: We would take a van and we would all pile

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00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: in it and it said King's Kids on the side.

444
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: How many of you, like fourteen of us?

445
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: It was a lot like fourteen ten or fourteen, and

446
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: then the funny thing is so one year so like

447
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: the first year was like we drove out to California

448
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: and did like West coast like you know, but like

449
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: like normal places, right. And then the second year, No,

450
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: first year we did the Midwest, so like Saint Louis, Chicago,

451
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Second year, we drove out to California,

452
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: did some stuff like an Orange County. It's fine. Thirty

453
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: year they're like, we're going to Appalachia, Appalachia.

454
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 7: However, you said Jesus puppets in Appalachia.

455
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: No, they played black people, two black girls. Ok So

456
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: we were like and back then I was wearing a

457
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 2: big afro, like my hair was you know, big, you know,

458
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: and we were like, oh okay. My mom was like,

459
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: how's this gonna work? And they were like, so what

460
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: we'll do is we'll just go into the churches first

461
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: and make sure that they're cool.

462
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: We're not doing it.

463
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: And like, in hindsight, my sister and I was like,

464
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Like there was a church where they

465
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: had to pull up and go in and talk to

466
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: them before we came in, and uh, they were not okay,

467
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: with us performing and we canceled the performance, and it

468
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: was those I don't know if you've ever been in

469
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: like Kentucky coal country and all that stuff Virginia. So

470
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: you go on these switchback roads where there's only one

471
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: lane and so the coal trucks are coming down and

472
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: you have to pull over when they come around. Like

473
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: it was some ship I don't ever want to see

474
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: again in my life, and the whole time it just

475
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: sounded like dinner.

476
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 7: The Roots played a lot in Kentucky, right, Yeah, Actually,

477
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 7: I mean we I was part of a tour like that,

478
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 7: right where the day that we got.

479
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: Our official h offer for a record deal, A Hub

480
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: and I snuck out of the church tour that we

481
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: were on very similar to this where we were. We

482
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: were in obal in Kansas, like in the cornfields, Like

483
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: when I go to sleep, I'd hear like, yeah every

484
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: night going to sleep, Like it was that sort of

485
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: thing where you're just in the middle of America and

486
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're going to be burning to

487
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: across the next day. Yeah. So it was like we

488
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: got a record deal and like he and I like

489
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: snuck out of that and went to the pay phone

490
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: to the seven eleven and called the gap and you know,

491
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: caught a plane at six in the morning, like we

492
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: went a wall. They were probably still.

493
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Now they saw you on foul and they were like, God.

494
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Damn it. I'm just curious about those church outings and whatnot.

495
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, why, I mean, how.

496
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: Had Was it a repressive atmosphere or no?

497
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't at the time. I think for me, it

498
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: was all we knew and the people were very kind

499
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: and very still really good family friends, you know. I

500
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: mean it was.

501
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Which there was a hard break moment where like you're

502
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: disillusioned and.

503
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: You oh yeah, yeah, yeah that happened in college. Oh

504
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: just about like Jesus.

505
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, just with the church.

506
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, with the church for sure. I think

507
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: at a certain point I just saw, you know, you

508
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: wake up to hypocrisy. That happens in anything, right, but

509
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: for churches. I'm like, Okay, I woke up to hip

510
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: hop and I was like, get out the church. No,

511
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: I I yeah. I think once I got older, I

512
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: got to college, I was like, oh, okay, I don't

513
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: need to be in the church this much. I mean

514
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: even I think later in high school. But you know,

515
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: my mom grew up Catholic. My dad grew up Lutheran. Like,

516
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: they just had a very strong religious background, and but

517
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: they also taught us that while we have this, once

518
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: we became adults, they were like, now the choice is yours.

519
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 2: We've taught you all the things that we know, but

520
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, go forth and make your own decisions. So

521
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: for me, I think I just don't like that. I

522
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of hypocrisy in the church,

523
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: like in religion, and I think that, you know whatever,

524
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: there's weird things in the Bible, you know what I mean,

525
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: There's just weird shit.

526
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: So I just feel like was guilt ever part of that?

527
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: Like once they once my church found out I was

528
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: doing music, right, you know, it's sort of like, so, uh, mirror,

529
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: are you uplifting the Lord in your work or is

530
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: it just like what I see on the Devil? Yeah?

531
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: Then I just stopped coming to church.

532
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: Because, you know, no, I think once people heard me

533
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: cursing in comedy, they were like, well, she's lost and

534
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: if she comes back, then fine, we'll see her on

535
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 2: Eastern I don't know, and I still I don't know.

536
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: I don't know.

537
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: I never had that guilt really. Also, I left home

538
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: and went to Chicago, and then I went to Northwestern

539
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: Second City like I was gone. You know, there was

540
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: nobody to like follow me and be like you.

541
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: And you didn't walk into college like that church girl. No,

542
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: I'm holding on to this.

543
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.

544
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

545
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: So what year did you go to Northwestern?

546
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: I will not tell you that, But it wasn't that

547
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: long ago.

548
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: Did we just had this conversation?

549
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: Well, no, because I just generally wanted to know, like

550
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: if we ever played her college or that sort of thing.

551
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: You're trying to find out if you get younger.

552
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 5: Wait.

553
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Wait, I've talked to you about this. He was in

554
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: the two thousands. Oh sorry, I understand. I see what

555
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: you're doing. I will tell this story. And I saw

556
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: before I met you, I had seen y'all fourteen times,

557
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: fourteen times, two of which I think were at Northwestern.

558
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: I remember, Do you remember this story? I don't. Do

559
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: you remember this night? Tell me how you were y'all

560
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: were playing? But oh god, what am I forget?

561
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: His name?

562
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: Not Cameron. It's a rapper with a c name, and

563
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: he wraps and he frees for a long time. Canada,

564
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Thank you Jesus.

565
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: There's a big difference betwe I knew I was.

566
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: About to say the wrong name. So Cannabis was over whatever, y'all,

567
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: And this dude freestyle for forty five minutes. Do you

568
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: remember this? Was that what he would do? Because I

569
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: never saw him before in concert.

570
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: We've done it was so long an shows. Yeah, so

571
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: obviously this was like ninety eight ninety nine when is out?

572
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: Didn't you just tell you it was?

573
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't it was later than that. Well, it

574
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: was later then when I saw it.

575
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well no, no, I'm yeah, okay, he had other Okay, okay,

576
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: but I remember.

577
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: I would have told you. I was like, actually, that's

578
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: not right.

579
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: We can edit.

580
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: Also, it was like nineteen sixty five. It's fine, It's

581
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: fine now they know I'm eighty. Thanks a lot, I'm

582
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: sorry forgiving thanks Amir. Wait, am I supposed to call you? Quest?

583
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to call you?

584
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: On this? We know each other?

585
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: Are can I tell you? It is so weird to

586
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 2: talk about you because people are always like because I'm

587
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: always like my friend of me or did something something,

588
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, is he in the business, And

589
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: I was like, it's quest love, Like I don't know

590
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: how to like, do you know what I mean? Like,

591
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: I tried not to say your stage name because it's

592
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: the stage it's yes, and you can't just be like

593
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: so quest love and I were.

594
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: Yes.

595
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: It's such an annoying, goddamn name drop. It's the same

596
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: thing I called Queen Jana and people are like, oh,

597
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: you think you're cool, and I'm like, no, I just

598
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: don't call her queen.

599
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: This is weird because whenever I talk about Marshall yes,

600
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, you think he's cool, you get

601
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: the car mark.

602
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: No you can't call him eminem.

603
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: Why don't you say m though that is a little extra?

604
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: Why not just say em because.

605
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: He makes you. I hate when people call me.

606
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: Correct even this is yeah, but it sounds like em

607
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: whenever I hear M right, thank you, thank you. Anyway,

608
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: we were talking about something else before I got up

609
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: onto the standard, but go ahead, just yell oh yeah,

610
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: oh yeah cannabis, So yeah, thank you.

611
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 7: I just ask you for something.

612
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: So cannabis was rhyming, and for the first five minutes

613
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: we're like, yo, this Zude's killing it. He's really free sounding.

614
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: He says, she.

615
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: Got a shirt on her she got and then correct,

616
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: We're like Jesus Christ right thirty eight minutes and we're like,

617
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: this might be your world record in history right now

618
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: forty five minutes saying the crowd is like, bring out

619
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: the room. And then y'all came out and ripped it.

620
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Thank you.

621
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.

622
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

623
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: I saw y'all everywhere. Man, I saw you in Chicago

624
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: a bunch. I think y'all. Did y'all come to Iowa?

625
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: You had to go back in those days, came to Iowa. No,

626
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: Iowa has probably the the maybe the fourth best record

627
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: shopping experience I've ever had.

628
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: Oh is that right?

629
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because usually like those places that no one goes to,

630
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I could just it's enough, Oh God, clean up instantly. Yeah.

631
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: So what else do you go to Iowa for corn

632
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: and porn?

633
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: You don't have to go there for the porn corn. Yeah,

634
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: you don't really go to Iowa for There's a lovely

635
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: place to grow up, sheltered from reality. But it's very affordable.

636
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I will say that.

637
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: Really, it's like a three bedroom house, it's like a one.

638
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: It's like going to North Carolina.

639
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can easily get a three bedroom house for

640
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: like one hundred and eighty thousand dollars easily and like

641
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: a nice like a brand new, like new shit.

642
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like truth be told.

643
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: You know.

644
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: Uh, the towns that you have least expectations for are

645
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: probably just some of the best places to visit the.

646
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: Worst weather because then you got hurricanes, you know, and Iowa.

647
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: No it's not real tornadoes.

648
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: Tornadoes, Yes, that is true, tornadoes and cold hurricanes. That's okay.

649
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: I know what you meant. I got you my head

650
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: unless saying climate change is real, it might be some

651
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: godamn hurricanes.

652
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: So second, what drove you to Chicago? The fact that

653
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: you got accepted.

654
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: To my Chevy Lumina literally drove me to Chicago.

655
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm a sharp comedian, but I mean, like, no, that's.

656
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: Just the truth. I wanted to go to I wanted

657
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: to go straight to LA out of high school, and

658
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: my parents were like, please, don't you will do porn,

659
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: which now is why I see why you have that connection.

660
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I want.

661
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: Uh, they were scared. They were scared.

662
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Speaker 1: They may have, yes, they may have.

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Speaker 2: So so you know, every summer I went to Chicago

664
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Speaker 2: because that's where my family went. Some of my mom's

665
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: whole side lived, so I was familiar with the city,

666
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, they were like, don't They said,

667
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: they had just asked me two things. Don't go uh

668
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: straight to LA because they knew I wanted to be comedian, actress,

669
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: writer or whatever. But they said, don't go straight to LA.

670
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Speaker 2: Get a college education, and also, don't ask us for

671
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Speaker 2: any money. So I got into Northwestern and I said,

672
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: and they were like, please, don't get a degree in theater.

673
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: You are you're already funny. Get a real degree, which

674
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: is rude, right, But so I got a degree in journalism.

675
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: I went to like Northwestern has the best journalism school.

676
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: They only let in like one hundred and eighty people year.

677
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: I got in and uh, and then I got my degree.

678
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: And then I got scouted by Second City because I

679
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: was running an improv and sketch group there for years

680
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: and they they saw it, they heard about it.

681
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: What was the name of the sketch group, the box okay.

682
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: And still going on to this day, seventy five years later.

683
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: And so I, so I went to Second City. They

684
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: gave me a full scholarship to go to Second City,

685
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: graduated the conservatory, went straight to LA and uh, you know, did.

686
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: You have dreams of seeing Steve Higgins or larn coming.

687
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: In out door.

688
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Because yeah, of course, for listeners, a lot of people

689
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: that you see on SNL Saturday Night Live, they'll either

690
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: be poached from one of three places. Either the Groundlings

691
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: in LA is there groundlings in.

692
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Speaker 2: New York Groundings The home of Growndings is New York Growndings.

693
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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was thinking UC Bright

694
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Speaker 2: There is no Groundlings in New.

695
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Speaker 1: York, Okay, So yeah.

696
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: The uc B here Growlings in lacon City was a grounding. Yes,

697
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: Miam Melissa McCarthy, A bunch of them are groundling, right,

698
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: And I think.

699
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: New York is uc being established.

700
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Speaker 2: By Amy Polar.

701
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Speaker 1: Amy Polar the team.

702
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: Uh she had Second City Chicago, right, and my group.

703
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Last Second City. So those three, those are the three

704
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: comedy universities that will guarantee you maybe half an audition

705
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: at Saturday Night Live? Did you many years?

706
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the goal. It'll happen, absolutely, that was

707
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: the goal for sure. And I was there with a

708
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: bunch of people who are now famous and they were

709
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: my mentors, So Keing and Michael Key was leaving Second

710
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: City to go do Mad TV and now I fucking

711
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: dated myself, God damn it. But I was also twelve anyway,

712
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: and a bunch of great folks. So when I came up,

713
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: there was kind of a new crop coming through and

714
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: everybody was like, Oh, this is going to be the

715
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: next class that goes to SNL, Like your class is

716
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: going to be the next class that did not happen.

717
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: And I didn't even get close to an audition. I

718
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: just wasn't in the right cycle or whatever, or back then,

719
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Speaker 2: I wasn't looking for black lady.

720
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: I was about to say, who was a black lady

721
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: this season? Because there wasn't.

722
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: It was Ellen Claghorn, and then it was Leslie Jones,

723
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: like there was with Maya in the middle. That's literally it.

724
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: But there was one more, uh what's her face? Who

725
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: passed away Sandley? But years ago what was her name? Yes,

726
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: thank you?

727
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn. I remember a joke on the Apollo like

728
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: get your baby some cool lights, or she did a

729
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: joke about cool cigarettes. Oh did she a baby smoking? Yeah?

730
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: She wasn't on very long, but she was funny as shit. Yeah,

731
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: but anyway, so so yeah, so it never happened. I

732
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: went to LA. It took many, many years I didn't

733
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: audition for Lauren until twenty thirteen.

734
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: WHOA that a long time? Damn?

735
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Speaker 2: But I was on other sketch shows. I was on

736
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: you know, Jamie Fox, Savy on Crocodile Jehan Fox. I

737
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: was a bunch of stuff that never saw the light

738
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Speaker 2: of day. I did a sketch show with Mike EPs

739
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: for Comedy Central that never saw the world. You know,

740
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: I did a lot of sketch stuff. I wrote for

741
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 2: a lot of stand ups. I toured the country with them.

742
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: I wrote for sitcoms.

743
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: But did you wait? You're just here? Reminded me that

744
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: I too was on a failed pilot that almost didn't

745
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: make it. Uh, there was going to be a Black Saturday.

746
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: I only remember because this is how we wrote break

747
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: You Off for Frenalogy. Uh. Who is the the black

748
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: comedy promoter? He did the Kings of Comedy Walter Latham. No, yes,

749
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Walter Walter, yes.

750
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Speaker 2: Not No, it's not him. Though it's not him. I

751
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: know exactly who it is, and I am blanking somebody

752
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: google it, got to look it up. No, I know

753
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: who it is, and that's not Everybody's not a.

754
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: Charles King or nothing.

755
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 8: No, no, no, hold on Walter said, wait, he connects.

756
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: No, it's m It's M Latham.

757
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Speaker 6: Yea.

758
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: But once once the King of comedies, once the King

759
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: of comedy kind of blew up. Then Walter decided to do, uh,

760
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: to shoot a pilot. He wanted to do a black

761
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: SNL And it was like Earthquake and other seven or

762
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: eight other heavyweights that I'm forgetting right now. Earthquake, you know,

763
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: don't sleep Earthquake man's funny. He's funny.

764
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: Door is a hell of a reality show actors.

765
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: But back when we were again thirsting for maybe a

766
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: gig that could keep us in one place at the

767
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: same time. Uh, we were the house band, you know,

768
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: we were the s n L band for that show,

769
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: but it just never got picked up.

770
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: Lounge people always forget about that.

771
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: That was the best Tracy, that was.

772
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: The best anyway. So you reminded me that I forgot.

773
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: About and then that kind of came true right in

774
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Speaker 2: a way.

775
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, eventually I saw my future.

776
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: Are you psychic?

777
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'm also I'm thinking, I'm also remembering, Uh,

778
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: is this why I tried to kill this? Also, she.

779
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Speaker 2: Real because that's not because she really did that.

780
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Speaker 1: Her husband dude, like we we were, says she's an

781
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Indiana girl. I understand it from Indiana. Yeah, said something

782
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Speaker 1: smart or unsavory, and then she took her ear rings

783
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Speaker 1: off and then she grabbed a weapon. Her husband had

784
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: to hold her back. The only good thing that from

785
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: that moment was like because music and she sat in

786
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: with us like that was the thing, like when you.

787
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: Go, yeah, how did you prevent a murder?

788
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Her husband held her back, but she did the whole

789
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: like you don't know about me, motherfucker, and took her

790
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: shoes off and took her ear rings off, and it

791
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: was one she grabbed.

792
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: Wait butit did she really stab her husband?

793
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: Wait?

794
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: Did he die?

795
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: No?

796
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: No, oh, that's good.

797
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: He protected her.

798
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: Why she was gone for a while after that whole

799
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Speaker 3: avunt Duet. I know you don't remember because you were

800
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: a child.

801
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: I was only born yes day, so I just kept

802
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: getting younger every time. I'm not gonna be born until

803
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: this podcast.

804
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: So you went to LA what is it?

805
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: What is what?

806
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Was the process of pounding the pavement?

807
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: Right?

808
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: So the nice thing was I went out there with

809
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: a one woman show about you know, just like playing

810
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: different character as and autobiographical. But what did I know

811
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: at twenty two?

812
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Wait, yes, if you didn't see that will be one

813
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: woman show.

814
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: That's not as a kid people, Yeah, yah, that's not

815
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: as a kid. Here's inspiration her all day. So I

816
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: put a towel on my head and then I just

817
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: I literally pulled him Malania Trump and just did her show. No, yeah,

818
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: how did we let her get away with that? By

819
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: the way, But anyway, so yeah, I went out did

820
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: this one woman show and then I got seen by

821
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: Mike Epps's manager, Like I literally only did the show

822
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: like three times. And then I got seen by Mike

823
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: Epps's manager and he was like, Yo, you are so funny,

824
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: you should come right for Mike. And so I started

825
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: writing for Mike. We wrote up the sketch show it

826
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: didn't go and then and I was acting on it too,

827
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: and then uh, I went on the road with him

828
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: a little bit, started working. Then I met Jesse Collins,

829
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: who was, uh, you know, produces bt Wards and a

830
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: bunch of other stuff, and I met him, started writing

831
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: for award shows, and then I just got connected with

832
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: all these different comedians and so I wrote for all

833
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: these different hosts, Jamie Fox, Anthony Anderson, Chris Rock, Monigue,

834
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Wayne Brady, Sam Jack, like literally everybody I've written for,

835
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: every male stand up black comedian who was like at

836
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: the top of their game for sure.

837
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Speaker 1: How did you avoid the Hollywood shuffle or how did

838
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: you avoid the Chitlin circuit uh Land minds that are

839
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: usually there for comedians, especially for black comedians, like how

840
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: did you avoid the some more route?

841
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: Right?

842
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: Well? Playing the CD bars and over? Like did you

843
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: start off in the comedy store in LA and no?

844
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: So that's the thing, this is how I avoided it

845
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: because I was a sketching, improv comedian. Even though I

846
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: wrote for stand ups, I never did stand up. I've

847
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: never done a minute of stand up in my whole

848
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: career nevertheless, really never, not once.

849
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: That's weird and w I know.

850
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: And I'm always in the comedy clubs always. Yeah, I've

851
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: never done a minute of stand up.

852
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: What do the comedians that you write for when you

853
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: tell them that or if you ever had that in

854
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: that conversation, do they ever what do they say about

855
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: that or do they care?

856
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: I've never had that conversation. I've always been funny, right

857
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: and always you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't

858
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: to comedians. It doesn't matter, Like it's not there's not

859
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: a hierarchy. It's like, is she funny case she write

860
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: great jokes. The other thing about me is I have

861
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: a because I would sit and mimic those people on

862
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: television as a kid. I can mimic anyone's comedic style.

863
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: So I know how to write for somebody. If I've

864
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: heard five minutes of their stand up, I know how

865
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: to write jokes for them.

866
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Speaker 1: You're trying to tell me that the rundown is the

867
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Speaker 1: first time that you've consistently concurrently in a half hour

868
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: or however you take your show at an hour, that

869
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: you stood in front of the audience and dumb material

870
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: and told jokes in a non sketch acting way for

871
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: that amount of time.

872
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's dope.

873
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: Wow that's rare.

874
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: But you got to think about it this way. I'm

875
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: an expert at stand up comedy because I've been doing

876
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: it for a long like two decades. I've been writing

877
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: it for years, but I'm a performer. Like even on

878
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: the Nightly Show, I was doing the same thing. It

879
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: was just like more sketches and like kind of panel stuff,

880
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: And like my whole career has led to this if

881
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: you look at the breadth of it, like, but no,

882
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: it is true. I guess if you think about it

883
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: that way. Yeah, it was the first time I actually

884
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: did stand up. I don't know. I thought, yeah, that's true.

885
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: Because it's like trusting a food expert that's.

886
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: It's never cooked.

887
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, I'm just talking about myself. You

888
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: sure did anute.

889
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you got food books and everything. Motherfucker.

890
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm probably the only James Beard uh dominated exactly author

891
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: that's never cooked. That's weird.

892
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: No, you get it though, you know what I mean. Like,

893
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: so for me, it was like I it's kind of

894
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: better because I was on the road being a student

895
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: of every Like literally, I can tell you if you

896
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: give me a topic, right, like, I'm not gonna do it.

897
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: Listen.

898
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: This isn't like you know who's on the free but like,

899
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: but like if you if I'm okay. So if if

900
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: Trump does something crazy, right, so Trump goes after uh

901
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: somebody in the media, right, he goes after Jamel Hill whatever,

902
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: so she should be fired. I can tell you how

903
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: every host in late night is gonna make a joke

904
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: on it, all right.

905
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 10: So what was Steven Colbert saying so, so Stephen, Colbert

906
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 10: is gonna make like, like, okay, so if you go

907
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 10: for the gamut, right, So Kimmel is gonna make a

908
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 10: joke that's probably okay.

909
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: It's the Jamel host. Well, he's not gonna do it right, right,

910
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: I picked I picked a black person.

911
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: A lot of them would.

912
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: It was like, Trevor does these funny like impressions. He

913
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: he does all these amazing voices, so he'll slip in

914
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: and do an impression. Colbert's gonna make a stude upside

915
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: down observation that's still silly. Kimmel's gonna make something that's

916
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a fight humor joke, and

917
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna take him down from A to B. Yeah,

918
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: what do you say, Jimmy, He probably won't mention it

919
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: if Trump said it. Yeah, but yeah, but I mean,

920
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: but you know, it's like, but you have to be

921
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: a student of the craft. So it was like, by

922
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: the time I came in, I knew how to write

923
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: for Larry. I knew how to write like John. You know,

924
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a product of the John Stewart family. He

925
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: was our executive producer at the Night They Show he

926
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: was with us all the time and he taught me

927
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: a lot. And then Chris Rock, who's our executive producer,

928
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Like I wrote for him when he hosted the BT Awards,

929
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: and he's been a really good mentor of mine since then.

930
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: And like the common theme is like, once you know

931
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: your comedy, especially in comparison to what else is out there,

932
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: then you can sell your product. And I knew I

933
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: had something different.

934
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: How do you feel about, at least the different classes

935
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: of comedy I'm curious about. Like in New York, I

936
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: know that the Brooklyn comics are seen as the you know,

937
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: alternative comics, and.

938
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: All do the same three jokes. It's really a joke.

939
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: I am open minded. I love them, and I think

940
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: some of them are pushing the boundaries. But like, if

941
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: you take a Brooklyn comic, like I'm talking like uh

942
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: straight up, like textbook Brooklyn, like ortismal cheese joke Brooklyn,

943
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: and you and you take it anywhere else in the country, yeah,

944
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: you'll bomb. You can't take that to Uptown, you know

945
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: what I mean. You can't go to Atlanta with those jokes,

946
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: especially for black comedians. But like, what are you doing?

947
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I also can't take some

948
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: of my Trump jokes, and that's why I'm not a

949
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: stand up. That's why I created a safe space where

950
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: I can push my point of view in my comedy.

951
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: But like, I'm not one of those people who can

952
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: go to any comedy club in the country and do

953
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: stand I just never had a passion for that.

954
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: So do you agree now Chris Rock thinks that any

955
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: joke should be able to work in all three mediums.

956
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, he says it because he's a genius. It's not fair.

957
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: His opinion is not fair.

958
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: But I'm asking do you subscribe to that theory? Because

959
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is the alternative world and then sort of north

960
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: of forty second Street is kind of I mean, I

961
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be dismissed him say hacky, but I

962
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: mean that's where like Caroline's is and whatever, like you'll see.

963
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: Like, what are you talking about?

964
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I don't know. It's just that

965
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: they're so at the cellar in the village. Yeah, there's

966
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: such snobs.

967
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah they are.

968
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: It's like Chappelle and Brennan, you know, those guys just

969
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: like they know everything. They're like old real hip hoppers

970
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: from like nineteen ninety two. Yeah, so I consider them

971
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: the highest quest loves, the higher, the hardest to praise,

972
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: the hardest to please, insatiable level of Ivy League comic.

973
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: And they look down on the Brooklyn Cats and they

974
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: look they kind of they're glad that they didn't go that,

975
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, even though they respect those guys

976
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: like the Vegas whoever, the David Brenners are of this

977
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: generation like that work way up town and up the town.

978
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of class classes and classism in comedy exactly.

979
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: And then the chillin' circa you got all that.

980
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Chris believes that. You know, Chris will go

981
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: to Outpost and try his stuff in that place, and

982
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: then he'll go to the blackest club uptown. Do you

983
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: think that every comic should adapt to that situation.

984
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessary. I think that it depends

985
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: on what you're trying to do. I think if you're

986
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: trying to be a legend, you're trying to be great, yes,

987
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: and that that's Chris is great. He is a legend.

988
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: Like he's so smart, and he he never gets comfortable.

989
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: He's always challenging himself. So I think for him that works,

990
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: but I think there are other comedians whose thing is

991
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: so specific that they're just using stand up to get

992
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: in front of a larger audience anyway, And it just

993
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: depends on your goals. And I don't judge anybody, even

994
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn commics. I don't judge them like they're gonna

995
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: be great. They're gonna be the lead in a sitcom

996
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: party soon, or they're gonna, you know, have a weird

997
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 2: like uh, you know, single camera artisanal che artisanal chi show.

998
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there's a place for everything. That's

999
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: what's so great about comedy is it's so subjective. Like

1000
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: one person can be like yo, like doo hug, he's

1001
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: not funny, and then somebody else is like, what are

1002
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: you talking about? He's a second coming. That's the great

1003
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: thing about That's the great thing about comedy. Like people

1004
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: can watch my show and be like, oh, she's whack,

1005
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: but obviously they're blind and deaf. But yeah, I mean

1006
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: I think there's something for everybody. I don't really judge it.

1007
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: I think as long as you have a good work ethic,

1008
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: whatever you're doing, it's fine.

1009
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Well this leads for Laya, who is currently pounding

1010
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: the pavement to when I'm not doing.

1011
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: This, yes to be.

1012
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: I was the girl that tonay and wanted to get

1013
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: to tell you better.

1014
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Reference on this show.

1015
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 2: Can I have joy in my life?

1016
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: You know what I say?

1017
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Can't two black women? Sharonmal merrel every day?

1018
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: So what would you listen? What would you recommend this

1019
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: interviews over the table turn? So what would you recommend to? Uh?

1020
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: A young up? To start first of all.

1021
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: With the whole myth of not for you young damn,

1022
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: I'm trying to set you up.

1023
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Okay, born in nineteen ninety four, thank you true. Anyway,

1024
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: what would you recommend, especially with the advantages is it

1025
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: advantage having you know, do you respect YouTube comedians and

1026
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: at the time Vine oh god the Iowa which.

1027
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Damn no, no, no no, it was at the question

1028
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: not at YouTubers.

1029
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: See, in my mind I thought that.

1030
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: Economic Look, I think it's good, but I think what

1031
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: happens is, here's what happens to people who have been

1032
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: in the game a long time.

1033
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, you go out.

1034
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: For something, you're up for something, and then they're like,

1035
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna get this YouTube person. They're hot, and you're like,

1036
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: but I've done all the professional things like I've gotten

1037
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: a degree, or I've been in the streets, like I've

1038
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: been in the clubs, like I've been doing all this,

1039
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: like I've been doing you know, like I was in

1040
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: nine sketch groups at any given time, like like like

1041
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: for me, sketch groups and in Propalympic and Second City

1042
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: were my comedy clubs when I was performing in writing.

1043
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: So it's like I felt like I put in the work.

1044
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: I didn't just turn on a camera in my bedroom.

1045
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: But that being said, there are people who work hell

1046
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: hard on you to but who makes millions of dollars

1047
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: so you can't knock the hustle. Yeah, there are people

1048
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: making millions of dollars on YouTube, so I don't knock

1049
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: the hustle. But I will say that I don't find

1050
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: like that a lot of them have longevity. There are

1051
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: some that do.

1052
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: So this is sort of like how someone my age

1053
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: would see new hip hop and see like, okay, you're here.

1054
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: Today the mumble something like somebody like me who's been

1055
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: doing radio or her life looks at someone like you

1056
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: that with a podcasted.

1057
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: But I've brought you with.

1058
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: Me, right, But I don't have the deal.

1059
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: So it's just.

1060
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: Personated, so we.

1061
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Cut her mic off engine. So okay, well, now this

1062
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: is going to be since you're wise with your with

1063
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: your words, looking at like you who's been trying to

1064
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: she's been pounding the pavement. Yes, what do you recommend?

1065
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: Are you doing stand up?

1066
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: I forget my writing a lot. I've done some stand up,

1067
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: I've been writing more and I've been standing.

1068
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: So how do you help someone find their lane? So

1069
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: and again, Okay, I know someone that is a very

1070
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: talented person in the arts. I think I think he's

1071
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: better off.

1072
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Why are you choosing your words carefully? You said we

1073
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: were being candid because.

1074
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: Show I'm saying that I don't think he's marketable as

1075
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: an artist, but I think there's a future for him

1076
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: as a songwriter. And I'm trying to encourage them.

1077
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no one wants Brandon T. Jackson to write songs.

1078
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name the person.

1079
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 2: I was just trying to pull a name.

1080
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: Listen, but what I'm saying is that you can you

1081
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: can open any door that you want once you get in, Like,

1082
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: you're not going to go through the front door. You

1083
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: might have to come through the kitchen or whatever. So

1084
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, Okay, if you you ramp up your

1085
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: songwriting skills, which are brilliantly brilliant, and you get a

1086
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: public then yeah, you can write your own ticket. You

1087
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: could be like I want to fly to the moon

1088
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: next to get in. What I'm saying is, how do

1089
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: you help a person? What do you recommend to someone

1090
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: trying to find their lane? Like, maybe they're better at writing, yeah,

1091
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: or maybe they're better at directing, or maybe they're better

1092
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: at being in front of the camera being a stand on.

1093
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: How do you help them find Yeah?

1094
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: Good question.

1095
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: I think you just have to try everything, you know.

1096
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: I think if you think you want to be a

1097
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: stand up, you got to go be a stand up.

1098
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: Like I was denying myself the fact that I was

1099
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: a writer for many years. I was just like, no,

1100
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm a comedian, I'm a performer. I'm just trying to

1101
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: be on SNL. This is what I'm doing. But I

1102
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: was writing for money on these TV shows and stuff,

1103
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, yeah, but I'm not a writer.

1104
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't know why. For years I denied that, and

1105
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: then I looked up and was like, yo, I've been

1106
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: writing a lot and I always perform on the things

1107
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: I write on, So I never had to shut that

1108
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: part of me off. But I don't know. For some reason,

1109
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: I had this weird shame about being behind the scenes,

1110
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: which was odd because once I embraced that, my whole

1111
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: career opened up in front of the camera and behind it.

1112
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: Is it shame or is also like can I do this?

1113
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: Because that's like also a whole level.

1114
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 8: It was.

1115
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: Well, I always knew I was a good writer. I

1116
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: just didn't think of it as a job, which was

1117
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: disrespectful as shit to writers. But I just didn't have

1118
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: that knowledge. You know, I went to public school. I

1119
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of knowledge about this, about the industry,

1120
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, I went to public school in the Midwest.

1121
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: TV was like, what that was just like a weird dream.

1122
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I've always had this kind of

1123
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: I talked about this the other day. I've always had

1124
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: this kind of reckless confidence, Like I've always been like,

1125
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: if I want to do it, I can do it.

1126
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: But then I would convince myself, oh but I don't

1127
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: want to do that. But then I think that was

1128
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: just the fear talking, right. So I think if you

1129
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: have a passion for it, you've got to do it.

1130
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: You've got to just do it. I think the problem

1131
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: with standup is you got to do it all the time,

1132
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: right cause it's like golf. If you play for ten

1133
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: years and you don't play for a week, you're terrible again.

1134
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very scared, and you get more scared the

1135
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: more time you spend not doing it.

1136
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: Correct.

1137
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 3: Oh, correct.

1138
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: See Eddie Murphy, it's why he won't it's why he

1139
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: won't come back on stage. I mean, he says it.

1140
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm not that's just what he says. I can't be

1141
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: out here working out material as Eddie Murphy. I can't

1142
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: do bad jokes. But the only way you do a

1143
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: special is to go out and work out the material,

1144
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: and they'll be bad. Chris is not afraid to do that.

1145
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: Rock goes into club with a notebook and a pen.

1146
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: He'll be like, I'm just gonna read some shit, you

1147
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: know when he's working things out, and it's genius to watch.

1148
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: But you know, if you're Eddie Murphy, how do you

1149
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: do that? How do you go, as the living legend

1150
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: top of the game and go into the cellar or

1151
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 2: stand up New York or wherever and tell some terrible

1152
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: ass jokes?

1153
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 3: So do you think we'll never see Eddie Murphy.

1154
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting to see if he's actually gonna do

1155
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: coming to America too.

1156
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: I believe it.

1157
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: I don't either. When he was gonna host the Oscars,

1158
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: I was like, I believe, want to see it, and

1159
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: then he didn't, you know what I mean. He it's

1160
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: hard and I root for him, like I'm like, he's

1161
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: the greatest living comedian period and I don't think that

1162
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: there's any way to live up to that title. And

1163
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: so I have you know, I have sympathy for him.

1164
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: People feel different.

1165
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: Even the ten minutes he did at Kennedy said Kennedy

1166
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: so dope, so dope, dude.

1167
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: It made me so hungry. I don't care. If he

1168
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: just got on stage your talk, I would pay all

1169
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: my money. You can have all my money. But that's

1170
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: why he doesn't understand the love for him is so great.

1171
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: But anyway back to you, just be Eddie Murphy, that's

1172
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: all I'm saying.

1173
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: That's all you got to do, or just don't be no.

1174
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: Look, I think you just got to do it and

1175
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: you'll find out. It'll take you where you're supposed to go.

1176
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: But don't close the doors on yourself. And if you're

1177
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: already writing, then what are you waiting for? You got

1178
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: three minutes in the book right now, five minutes, whatever

1179
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: you got. That's all you have to do. People think

1180
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: you have to go out and do an hour long special. No,

1181
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: you work your way up. You do five minutes, then

1182
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: you do eight, and then you go back to five

1183
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: because those other three you find out didn't work. What

1184
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: do you not?

1185
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: Did you do this? But do you have some favorite

1186
00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: clubs in New York?

1187
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1188
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: Look, I think stand Up n Y is really good.

1189
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: Stand Up New York is great because they have a

1190
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: really good amateur night where anybody can get up. Go

1191
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: to Stand Up New it's uptown and then no, I

1192
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: think it's in the sixties, like Upper West Side, Cameron.

1193
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: I think that's where am I getting it confused?

1194
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: No?

1195
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no yeah the media no, no. So

1196
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: sant Up New York is a good one. Don't try

1197
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: to go to the cellar, no, like you know, that's crazy.

1198
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: But there's also like NYU has like random comedy nights

1199
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: and stuff where like literally anybody can go up and

1200
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: students are kind of a great crowd because they don't

1201
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: give a shit, and so they'll either laugh or they'll

1202
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: just won't even look at you. But either way you

1203
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: can hear what you're You know what the thing is,

1204
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: You need to hear what your jokes sound like on

1205
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: a microphone. It's not about what they sound like in

1206
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: front of a crowd, as much as you need to

1207
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: get used to hearing them amplified, and you'll start writing

1208
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: them differently because no matter how much you write them

1209
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: at home, that ship, once it has an echo on it,

1210
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, that that doesn't work. But honestly, like

1211
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't. Yeah, yeah, that's why they do that, right,

1212
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: because you need to be able to hear the joke

1213
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: in the mic. It's not about the crowds reaction. People

1214
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: always think that's a joke about the crowd not hearing,

1215
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: but it really is like, oh, my joke is not

1216
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: working through this mechanism. It's interesting. There's a whole there's

1217
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: a whole thing.

1218
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my two secret Smurf spots.

1219
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: Like you okay he said it on the rest, Yeah,

1220
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: because that's the small little places that any bar in

1221
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: Brooklyn has an amateur night.

1222
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: By the way, I work out of two spots.

1223
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: I say what now, Yeah, I do, which mean you

1224
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: work out of two spots.

1225
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: Oh you telling me this?

1226
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, back when I was actively teaching, you're not in.

1227
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: Like a yeah, go ahead, because you're not in a

1228
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: comedy club. Comedy club, are you?

1229
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, but I don't do it as much

1230
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: now that I'm not teaching this semester. But I as

1231
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: you hear three seconds ago, I mean the reason why

1232
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: I write more and instagram more because it's easy for

1233
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: me to communicate when I can control my words with

1234
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: my ten fingers. But I hate public speaking. So you

1235
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: go and you try to given the show. I lose

1236
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: sleep the night before whenever we do it, and they

1237
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: could be like even the Jimmy Jame and Terry Lewis show,

1238
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: like I'm in the mirror like practicing, like like it's

1239
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: like jury. Yeah, but yeah, our our our warm up

1240
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: guy Seth told me that the way to give over

1241
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: your public speaking fear is to just tell five minute story.

1242
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: So so you're doing like story slams and ship that's dope.

1243
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: Story is also on the low kind of working.

1244
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: Out to where do you go?

1245
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: Where you said, I don't want to reveal that because

1246
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't want people judging.

1247
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: Me reveal stuff on this show.

1248
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: You just said, I'm going to tell you the standing.

1249
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Look, that's a running theme with this show. Just yeah,

1250
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: what they are.

1251
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: It's the Apollo at the top of the empire, say building,

1252
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: it's real.

1253
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: Wait, since you're on the subject, there's no there's someone

1254
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: that I am cheering for in the world of me.

1255
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: Well besides you, Oh yeah, you're my hero. Jessica Moore

1256
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: is well just hilarious or just with the mess, just hilarious.

1257
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: She is one of my favorite, uh Instagram comedian, Like

1258
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: what she's done?

1259
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: Are you No, not Jessica Williams.

1260
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: She's just just with the mess or just hilarious is

1261
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: what she is on on Instagram.

1262
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's even with Azelia Banks and everybody.

1263
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: She Yeah, she uses all fifty nine seconds of her

1264
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: Instagram account to do awesome crafted uh comedy bits where

1265
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: she kind of gives you the ratchet news of the week,

1266
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: and it's to the point where that's my show's funny,

1267
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: similar to what's his name? Who's who's like the star

1268
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: of Vine what's his name?

1269
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the movie with Sandra Oh my god, yes,

1270
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: wait really yeah he did. He was in the movie

1271
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god was res Yes, he was in speed.

1272
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1273
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: Now we're all going to forget his Yeah, sort of

1274
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: like how do you.

1275
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: I didn't do it neither.

1276
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: Less less about how do you feel about graduating and

1277
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: kind of cutting the front of the bank line. What

1278
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: do you recommend to those who are now going to

1279
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: make their careers off of strictly YouTube and Instagram to

1280
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: get to come or.

1281
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: Is it just I don't know that.

1282
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't that like trap music to me?

1283
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: Or like, well, you said that pejoratively, but I don't

1284
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: think that. Yeah, I don't. I don't Northwestern, Please give

1285
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: me my credit. I got that degree. Ok, Yeah, I

1286
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: don't know. I think whatever they choose to do is

1287
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: remains to be seen.

1288
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: I don't you know.

1289
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Francesca Ramsey is a fantastic YouTube star who's got a

1290
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: pilot she's shooting out for Comedy Central, and like, you know,

1291
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: I just kind of just I don't know. I keep

1292
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: hearing that they all get these shows, but then I

1293
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen. Like Joanne the Scammer's

1294
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: doing a pilot for Netflix, Like I'm so excited, excited,

1295
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: I know, but I don't know, Like I never see

1296
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: these things come to the light of day, and I

1297
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: wish I would. So I don't know what the disconnect is.

1298
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because they don't know the

1299
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: business a lot. But like Francesca is the person I

1300
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: think has a really good chance of making it because

1301
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: well she's already made it, but like somebody who can

1302
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: really translate over to TV because she's been in the business.

1303
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: We hired her at the Nightly Show, brought her on

1304
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,479
Speaker 2: as a correspondent, like she's done the kind and she's

1305
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: like a writer also. But some of these people, I

1306
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: don't know if they write, but if they know TV,

1307
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if they know how to make a

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01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: product for Tagua.

1309
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: But what I'm asking is the definition of quote making

1310
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: it right?

1311
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: It's different at the end of.

1312
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: The ellipses, is making it that dot in our world,

1313
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: which is the standard that we've known of long form comedy.

1314
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: But what if that medium that they're doing now is

1315
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: going to be the standard of which we digest our entertainment.

1316
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I think we'll all have to adjust.

1317
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: I think late night comedy on streaming and on demand

1318
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: has proven to be tough. You know, Chelsea's show just

1319
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: went down.

1320
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm shocked about that because I thought it was doing

1321
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: the numbers.

1322
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was or not. She said,

1323
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: she made it sound like she made the move to

1324
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: focus on activism, so it may have just been her choice.

1325
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I think Bill Night is the

1326
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: only other one that has a streaming talk show, So yeah,

1327
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure. Like right now, for Late Night,

1328
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: it seems to still be a TV game, but digital matters,

1329
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, to go viral, but you have to be

1330
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: on a TV terrestrial platform to uh crossover to the

1331
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: digital viral platfor it's weird, But yeah, I think I

1332
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of TV like comedy that's happening

1333
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: on streaming that's really funny. I mean, look at Kimmy Schmidt,

1334
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: you know, look at those are people who are comedians

1335
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: whoor you know, who definitely translate. So I think there's

1336
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: a room for everybody. I didn't answer your question move.

1337
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 7: On show now, but yes, what it was like to

1338
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 7: go from being a writer to now some writer who

1339
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 7: writes for folks and now you write for yourself? Like,

1340
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 7: what was that transition like?

1341
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: Can you write for yourself?

1342
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 7: I mean, like, but now you're like a performer.

1343
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: Some people always ask that question, but I never stopped performing.

1344
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: It's like when people ask Eddie what was it like

1345
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: when you fell off, and he's like, check my resume.

1346
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: I always made movies. Every year he's made a movie.

1347
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: That's what's crazy about Eddie Murhy. But anyway, I just

1348
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: really put myself in the same sense as Eddie Murphy.

1349
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: Forgive me, Forgive me Black Jesus. Yeah, so I've always

1350
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: been performing. Even when I was head writer on the

1351
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: nightly show, I was still on the show like three

1352
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: nights a week.

1353
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 7: So you're like the focus, it's your show.

1354
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: I tend to think I was the focus on everything.

1355
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: I asked about.

1356
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 7: That's clear, and I've learned.

1357
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1358
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: And how snobby were you at choosing writers for your

1359
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: own show?

1360
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Verry Verry, Well, I will actually answer your question. It

1361
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: is different when it's on you, for sure.

1362
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: And how different is it that you're the star of

1363
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: the show and you answer to a showrunner a head writer,

1364
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: as opposed to where I was going to go with

1365
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: it before. You just skip the damn line of the

1366
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: question of you being a head a head writer for

1367
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: Larry's show before you got your show? What's easier?

1368
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: Your question was so confused.

1369
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm blessed, I'm lost, I'm lost to you. Anyway, my

1370
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: question was before you got your own show, you were.

1371
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: The head writer that question, yeah, okay, yeah.

1372
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: No, he said, he just skipped to your show.

1373
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: As if it was in the context of Bill's question.

1374
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: But I understand it.

1375
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: Why aren't we all hide because some of us just

1376
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 3: aren't smart enough to get high.

1377
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'll set up for the next minutes you five talking.

1378
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: Get what you're saying, Larry Wilmore.

1379
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: No, I got it. I got it. So uh to

1380
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: answer your question, I think that, uh, the weight, the

1381
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: weight is on me now, right, And I've talked to

1382
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: all the guys and Samby and Larry said, yeah, it's

1383
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 2: different now, huh, which kind of answers your question, which

1384
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 2: was like, he said to me, you thought you knew

1385
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: what the weight was on me, you know, when you

1386
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: were my head writer. But it's different now. And I

1387
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: was like, you're so right, and there's nothing that can

1388
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 2: explain it except by being in that position. There's something

1389
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: like as his head writer, I wanted to take care

1390
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: of him and make sure he had the funniest jokes

1391
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: and keep the writers organized and keep them happy, and

1392
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: keep him happy and just make a great show. My folks,

1393
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: focus was on doing whatever made him the best comedian

1394
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: to give the best show. And now it's like, I'm

1395
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: looking at people to do that for me. But the

1396
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: problem is I came with all of that experience, so

1397
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: I think people expect more from me, Like I'm not

1398
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: like the helpless talent. So the problem is for me,

1399
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: I have to break myself of the head writers show

1400
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: running like you know, tendencies for sure, because and I

1401
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: think we're still finding that, to be honest, because I do.

1402
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be in every meeting and they had

1403
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: to be like, get out. You know, Colbert had said

1404
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: the same thing when he got his new shown. They

1405
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: had to kick him out.

1406
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: I knew it. I think that being the star of

1407
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: your show and always use this this ray crop Ronald

1408
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: McDonald example, But I feel like as Ronald McDonald as

1409
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: the face of your product, I mean, I know, I'm like, but.

1410
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: God, damn you and your clown. You're right about that

1411
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: now the show is over.

1412
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: No, But I feel like when you're the face of

1413
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: your product. When you're Ronald McDonald, you should let Ray

1414
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: Kroc be Ray Crock. You should like Boss Bill is

1415
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: Ray Kroc? Which one is Ray Crock?

1416
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, the movie.

1417
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I thought he's one of the.

1418
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: Ray Crock Yes, okay, Michael, Michael Keaton.

1419
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: Yes, so what I'm saying, you make it sound like.

1420
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 7: Better for all the time I've ever heard in my life,

1421
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 7: all the time.

1422
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of Stephen listening to this everything right now?

1423
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: I love it.

1424
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 1: But okay, I know some people that can't let go. Yeah,

1425
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: and they got to make every decision.

1426
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard for me about you.

1427
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh you two?

1428
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so.

1429
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: Again, because it's easy for you to be in.

1430
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: Or is it easier for you not?

1431
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: Look, I think I enjoy both. But uh, there's a

1432
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: reason I created my own show after I left Larry Show,

1433
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: as opposed to, you know, going to somebody else's show. Actually,

1434
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 2: we need to tell that story. You know you are

1435
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: an integral part of that story. But anyway we are

1436
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: in order because damn.

1437
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 3: I had.

1438
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: Would you have for breakfast this morning?

1439
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: Tell that story.

1440
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't get to eat it anymore. My sketch busy

1441
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: now what did I have. I don't know. There's some

1442
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 2: eggs I don't know. But the end of and the

1443
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: end of that is that it is really difficult, and

1444
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to trying to take myself out of my meetings.

1445
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 2: But the thing is, I you also get this sixth

1446
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: sense when you are the host of a show, and

1447
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: when you create a show, you can see everything, you

1448
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: can hear everything, you know everything that's going on. It's weird.

1449
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: You literally have an extra sense. And people are like,

1450
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: you don't miss a thing. And I can see, like

1451
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: when something's not working, I can see it an hour before,

1452
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: so somebody else sees it. And so my problem is

1453
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: letting people not fail, but letting them find out that

1454
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: what they're doing is not going to work when I

1455
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: knew it a day ago or an hour ago. You know,

1456
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: that's my problem. That's what I'm struggling with because you're

1457
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, I really have this weird. I don't

1458
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: know how to describe it any other way. But I

1459
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: can see more now, and so that's hard for me.

1460
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how to let people just

1461
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 2: figure it out for themselves.

1462
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: So you trust it.

1463
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: I do trust them, though, I was going to say no,

1464
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: I would tell you if I didn't know. And the

1465
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: reason why I hired the person I hired is because

1466
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: I've known him for years, and uh, I knew that

1467
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: whatever I needed, he was going to be there to say, hey,

1468
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 2: step out of that, I got it, you know. So

1469
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 2: so you have to do that. And I have co

1470
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: executive producers who are amazing, these amazing teams of women

1471
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: who are like they just have my back. So that's

1472
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: what's made it easier for me. But it's just a

1473
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: personal thing. It doesn't matter how much people take care

1474
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: of you if you're used to the one being, you know,

1475
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: being the one that making all the decisions. So it's

1476
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: a process.

1477
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: Did you purposely staff your your writing staff? I mean

1478
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: this just feels like a dumb question. But with women,

1479
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 3: did you make and then black women, because you know

1480
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: there's been a whole yes and black and black female writers.

1481
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 3: There's not a lot this season on a lot of new.

1482
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: Directs, and I have doubled the number, which I've done

1483
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: twice in my career. I did it at the Nightly

1484
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: Show and then when we got canceled, and then when

1485
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 2: I hired I have a room of uh, we only

1486
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: have one writer. My room is all black people, half

1487
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: women and half men. And uh so yeah, I single

1488
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: handedly employed the most black women in late night and

1489
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: uh uh my staff is seventy percent women and people

1490
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: of color, which is crazy. That's never been done ever

1491
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: in late night television. It's heaven. When people come in.

1492
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: We have bottles of cocoa butter. A kid you not.

1493
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: We have it constantly. We introduced all the white people

1494
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: on our staff to cocoa butter. They're they're like, this

1495
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: is a miracle. Somebody came in today. I said it

1496
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: smells like cookies. I said, that's the cocoa butter. I

1497
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: kid you that. Yeah, yes, yes, we have. We have

1498
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: like you know music, you know. It's just like it's fun.

1499
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: Like we had Amber Ruffin from Seth Myers and Ashle

1500
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: Nicole Black from Sam Bey on our podcast which we

1501
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: tape in our office on Fridays, and they came in

1502
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: and Amber was just like walking around real slaw. I said,

1503
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: hurry up, come on, we got a tape. She was like,

1504
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: I've just never seen this many black people in an

1505
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: office before. She was like, let alone a TV show.

1506
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: She was just like, I don't know what this is.

1507
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: This is crazy essen yeah show. Yeah, so it's dope.

1508
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: I love it. I love that we've been able to

1509
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: do that because that's what I preached, like more black

1510
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: people need to be in this genre, like more black

1511
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: people behind the scenes in front of the camera. So, yeah, dope.

1512
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: Who's the sister that used to be on Larry Wimore

1513
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 3: with you always?

1514
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: Which one Holly Walker franchise?

1515
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 3: I guess it was Holly. It was Holly because you

1516
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 3: two are seemed like to always be paired up.

1517
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've known each other forever. She was she was

1518
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: one of my teachers at Second City years ago. She's fantastic.

1519
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: She's dope. She was a writer perform on the nightly show.

1520
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: She's dope.

1521
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: The kind of political climate that we're living in.

1522
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: Right now, I don't like this question. You want to

1523
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 2: talk about how you helped me create this show?

1524
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 3: That's what we were doing. We forgot we forget it.

1525
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, how did I help you create the show?

1526
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: So?

1527
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: So show?

1528
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: I hate shock, which is weird? Okay, so so so.

1529
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: I so the night they show have been canceled and

1530
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: I was a little sad, and uh Amir texted me,

1531
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: I think it was like Chappelle eight o'clock, like, let's go.

1532
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: And I was like okay, but I mean I text

1533
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: you back because I was like hYP but I was like, well,

1534
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you know this. I was actually really

1535
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: sad and like I didn't want to leave my house

1536
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 2: and I was like in pajamas and I was like,

1537
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: fuck it, though, it's Chappelle, we got to go. So

1538
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: we went to go see Chappelle and you took me

1539
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: backstage and you were like, you know Dave right, And

1540
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: I was like, no, we've never met. I know all

1541
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: these other commanis. I don't know Dave.

1542
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 9: So then Dave uh was like hey, and you were

1543
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 9: like hey, and you were like you know Robin right,

1544
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 9: and he was like uh and you were like from

1545
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 9: the Nightly Show and he was like, oh right, both

1546
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 9: of us don't have jobs, like this was just after

1547
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 9: the night Show.

1548
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: And I was like hey, you're right. And then and

1549
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: then he says what he always says to me now,

1550
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: which was a are you white?

1551
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: What is you?

1552
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: Are you white? And then he's like no, I'm just kidding,

1553
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. And so he said, what are you

1554
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: doing now that the Nightly Show is over, and I said, oh,

1555
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna go. I think I'm gonna go try

1556
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: to work on somebody else's talk show. I've got some offers,

1557
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: because I had offers from most of the white dudes

1558
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: and Late Night and Thank You, and so I was like, oh,

1559
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna work on SO and soci show. And

1560
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: he was like, nah, do your own show. And I

1561
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: was like, but I feel like I need to, you know,

1562
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: be in it a little bit more, get my name

1563
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: out there a little bit more. And he was like, now,

1564
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: go to your own show.

1565
01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: And So Joe and So I'm going to record that

1566
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: and make that part of our edit.

1567
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 2: So so I was like, Wow, maybe I should do

1568
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: my own show. And then I don't know if you

1569
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 2: remember this, we were trying to meet up with Rock.

1570
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: This was a very like Hollywood New York night, but

1571
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 2: we were trying to meet on the trope to completely question. Okay,

1572
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: yeah right right, So you and Dave Schabelle and Spike

1573
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: Jones he was also standing there, and we were trying

1574
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,879
Speaker 2: to go get chicken at the spot.

1575
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird.

1576
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you always take people to get always We've got

1577
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: chicken many times. But yes, this was the this is

1578
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: all right.

1579
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing about this night, yeah, was that I

1580
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't realize that with Spike Jones until six minutes and.

1581
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: You're talking to him. Yes, I remember you telling me this.

1582
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know what spi Joe.

1583
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: I saw the emphany on your face. You were not slick,

1584
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: and then you were, and then you tried to clean

1585
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: it up. You were like, yeah, I just saw your video.

1586
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: It's so dope.

1587
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you that smart? I think I just know you, okay,

1588
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: because he was very flattered. He could not have been nicer,

1589
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: but you were like in the video at all man,

1590
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: and then the treadmills that I knew you went extra

1591
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: hard on letting him know that.

1592
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: It was Robin know, I know, we gotta get married now.

1593
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 2: So so so we went to go get chicken and

1594
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 2: we couldn't find Chris or David. So it's just me

1595
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 2: and a Mirr eating chicken. And the chicken was fantastic,

1596
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: but it was like.

1597
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: Chicken right now, chicken?

1598
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: No, it was not?

1599
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: No, what is that?

1600
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1601
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: It was probably No, it was not.

1602
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: It's a place where we have to go up the

1603
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: rickety staircase.

1604
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 7: I love the chicken right now.

1605
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I wasn't gonna

1606
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: say that.

1607
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: Like Robin, I actually do like you.

1608
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 3: Like you that's so cute.

1609
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: No, I don't remember the first chicken spot I talked

1610
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: about on our pilot episode.

1611
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeahs a cigaret spot.

1612
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 3: Damn only take the top tier bitches.

1613
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: Was damn Okay, it's good that you remember it. I

1614
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: didn't remember. You remember that means I really like you

1615
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: as a person.

1616
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Himson, I wouldn't say the name or where it is.

1617
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: There's certain people I can't let me, let not them

1618
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: see me like throw down on yeah chicken.

1619
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: It was.

1620
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: First we ate the chicken on out. It was the

1621
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: best we ever did. Remember that, Yeah, like this and

1622
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,839
Speaker 1: then after the chicken chicken, we'll put.

1623
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: You straight like yeah. Yeah. So so we went there

1624
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: and I don't remember how much we really talked about

1625
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: it that night, but I was like, God, I think

1626
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: Dave is right. So I had a meeting two days

1627
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: later at Jack's Media, who does full fun Toble sam Bee,

1628
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: Amy Schumer's Inside of Me Schumer broad City. There's this

1629
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: amazing production company and I was in there to meet

1630
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: with them to run a different show. I was like, well,

1631
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 2: maybe I'll just go to meet with them about this

1632
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: sitcom whatever to like run it, not even gonna be

1633
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: on it. And we were having this conversation. They were like,

1634
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 2: so if you were to do your own late night show,

1635
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: just like like we were just shooting the shit. I

1636
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: wasn't in there to pitch. I didn't have a pitch

1637
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: on me. And they were like, so, if you were

1638
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: going to do your own late night show, what would

1639
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: it be. I was like, I don't know, probably just

1640
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: everything I do, like sketch, you know, political satire, but

1641
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: also like pop culture satire because I care about what

1642
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: black China is doing as much as I care about

1643
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 2: what the president is doing. And they were like, that's dope,

1644
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: we'll buy it.

1645
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: So you were first for them too, because it's not

1646
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: you was the first piece of brown for that production

1647
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 3: company you say you name like Amy.

1648
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: Fernandez is Brown owns that company. But I don't think

1649
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: they have any other shows with predominantly black people, and

1650
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: that's for sure. But they did produce Top five and

1651
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: they so they got they got some stuff under that.

1652
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 2: They have a lot of good shows. They're really great.

1653
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 2: But they were like, yo, so cause I told them

1654
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: the story about Dave and then they said, oh, well,

1655
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: and your friends with Chris. I was like yeah, and

1656
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: then they were like, well, we'll just call Chris. So

1657
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and I walked out of the meeting.

1658
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: I was like, that's not a thing, Like, that's not

1659
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: how you sell a show, right because I've been a

1660
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: picture show is my whole life, and I'm like, that's

1661
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: not how it works. And then a couple of days

1662
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: later they called and they were like, yeah, so yeah,

1663
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna make your show Chris on board. I was like, wait,

1664
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: Chris didn't even me what. I was like, you're not serious,

1665
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: and they were like yeah. We called Chris and we

1666
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: said Robin Thiety's doing a show. It's a mix of

1667
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: politics and pop culture. It's late night. And he goes yes,

1668
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 2: and they go do you want us to tell you more?

1669
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: And he goes no. I said yes, and we were

1670
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: like what. Like the way it came together was so crazy,

1671
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: and then we shot a pilot and then Network's bid

1672
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 2: on it and we went to bet now we're on.

1673
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: Damn man. We all lived happily we did.

1674
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 3: That was perfect because it was nobody else to feel that,

1675
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 3: like you really you were the answer, because when you

1676
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 3: think about it, it's like, who else do you think about?

1677
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: They could fill that void in that way.

1678
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of women who could

1679
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: do it. But the thing that Chris always says, the

1680
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: reason why he signed on to this so quickly is

1681
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: not because I was funny, because he there's plenty of

1682
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 2: people who are funny, but because he knew I could

1683
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: create and run a show, and he knew that when

1684
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 2: it came to making the pilot and when it came

1685
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: to making the show, I was going to put people

1686
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: in charge who were great. And he knows my standard

1687
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: or quality is like way high, so you know, I wasn't.

1688
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: And it didn't matter where we went. It wasn't like, oh, well,

1689
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: we'll make a good show for B E T. It's like, no,

1690
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: we're going to make a show that's going to rival

1691
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: anything else out there, you know, with whatever budget we get.

1692
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: But you know, we wanted to make something that that

1693
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 2: anybody could watch. But it was nice that we went

1694
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: to BET because BT only gave us two directives. They said,

1695
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: we want to make the show that you want to make,

1696
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: but it's got to be unapologetically black and add some

1697
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 2: music every now and then. I was like, bet, great,

1698
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: what network would tell you that.

1699
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: There?

1700
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: It really is. No, it really is. And they're they're

1701
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: they're really open to having things that they haven't had

1702
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: or things that they've tried. You know, they tried the TJ.

1703
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: Holmes Show, but they didn't really try it with the comedian, so,

1704
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: you know, I think they wanted something in this genre.

1705
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: And this was when Stephen Hill was still there, so.

1706
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: They needed something smart, like they needed smart cool at

1707
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 3: the same time.

1708
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they were really excited about what we

1709
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 2: were bringing in, what they knew I could bring to

1710
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 2: the network. And it was really a homecoming for me

1711
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: because my first technically my first writing job was on

1712
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: the BET Awards. That's what got me into the Writers Guilt.

1713
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: Which year were you, I'm sorry a couple of years.

1714
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: No, No, that was my first BT Awards was two

1715
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. It was with.

1716
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 1: You didn't throw jokes at I thought, that's.

1717
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: How No, that's how No. I met Chris Rock because

1718
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: of you. You told Chris Rock I was funny, and

1719
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: then he hired me to write for write sketches for him.

1720
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: I was already doing the BET Awards.

1721
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's all I. When I die, you will

1722
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: realize that I'm a bridge.

1723
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 2: You told no. I was already going to work. So

1724
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: I worked for the BT Awards for like ten years

1725
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: from two thousand and seven, like well, not till twenty seventeen.

1726
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: But I wrote many years in between that, and so

1727
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 2: when Chris was hosting, Chris hired his writers. But then

1728
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,839
Speaker 2: they have other writers the right leg sketches and monologue

1729
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: bits and or bits for other people. But Chris met

1730
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: me when I walked in. I walked into the meeting

1731
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: late as fuck too. They had given me the wrong time.

1732
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 2: Can I tell you this story? So no, no, no, no no,

1733
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: And this was all me. This was all this the

1734
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: noh to do with BT. I just read their email

1735
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: wrong and got there at the wrong time. And I

1736
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 2: walked in and Chris Rock's sitting there holding court with

1737
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: like Leslie Jones and John Max, all these amazing writers comedians,

1738
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 2: and I walk in and I was like oh, and

1739
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: I was like hey, and I literally it was one

1740
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 2: of those things where I had to walk around everybody

1741
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: to get to the test where I cadish slow motion

1742
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: and everyone's staring at me. And I'm like, hey, everybody,

1743
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 2: and Chris goes, who are you? And I was like,

1744
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 2: Robin THEDI and he goes, Emir said you're funny, and

1745
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 2: I was like, well, he does have good taste, and

1746
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 2: then the whole room started cracking up and he goes, okay, okay,

1747
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: But that was the test. It was like, if I

1748
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 2: hadn't have said something funny to him, I think it

1749
01:22:58,960 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: would have been all down.

1750
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: Joe, Robin, can you walk us through because I'm so

1751
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: curious about the process of a war show, Like you

1752
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 3: just said, like it was a room of people and

1753
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 3: then people certain people do different segments. Yeah, like how

1754
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 3: does that work?

1755
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: So every host is different. Usually what happens is there's

1756
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: an in house crew three to four writers who write

1757
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 2: all the uh presenter bits and all the kind of

1758
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: connective tissue and stuff, so all the stuff that the

1759
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: actors get up there and fuck up. You know, they

1760
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: work really hard for weeks on end to craft something

1761
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: really funny, and then what ends up happening is the

1762
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 2: artists or the publicist or whatever read it and then

1763
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: they're like, ah, client doesn't really want to do that,

1764
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: and then it becomes like this weird amalgamation of something

1765
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: and then they get on stage and forget their glasses

1766
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: and then just say what they want. That's why a

1767
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: war show is making funny, Yes, because not for lack

1768
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: of writing. Like people always like, ah be tenise new

1769
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: writers or whatever. It's like, no, trust me, the bits

1770
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: are really funny, but just stuff goes crazy. Like I

1771
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 2: don't know. People just say what they want and but

1772
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: sometimes the bits work really well. But uh so then

1773
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: the host comes and whatever the host is usually hires

1774
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: their own team of writers as well.

1775
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: Do you recommend that I do? I do?

1776
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 4: I do?

1777
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: Like, Well, that's because yeah, BECAUSEL has twenty five writers

1778
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: who are all at the top of their game. So

1779
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: and SNL is writing for a specific they know themselves

1780
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: better than you know them. I think at SNL it

1781
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: doesn't make that much sense. But I think if you're

1782
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: hosting a wardsone where you're selling your personality and you're

1783
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: the host, yeah, you definitely need your own writers. And Chris,

1784
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: the funny thing is people like Chris they hire writers,

1785
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: but they don't need them. Chris Rock does not need writers.

1786
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 2: He comes in with material that's already killer three months

1787
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: before the show. I'm telling you there's some comedians who

1788
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 2: definitely need writers.

1789
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 4: But.

1790
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: Uh, and I am one of them. Let's be real.

1791
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a great writer, but I have to

1792
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: write my jokes, you know what I mean? Like, I

1793
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: need to craft my jokes. And I could. I could

1794
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: absolutely write all my own material, But.

1795
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: I like music. I think comedy you should bounce off

1796
01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: of other people.

1797
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too too.

1798
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: And there's no Kevin has that. Kevin will stand in

1799
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: the circle. Yeah, I mean his six guys will.

1800
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: Be like yeah, but Kevin's also very funny on his own.

1801
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: I wrote for Kevin too. Kevin's Kevin's very funny. And

1802
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: you get Kevin something, you can give Kevin something like

1803
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: here's the cool thing. So, so Chris is like a wordsmith.

1804
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 2: Everything those words have to be in a formula and

1805
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 2: he will mess with it for months, years until he

1806
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: hits a joke. Right, Kevin Hart. You can literally go, Okay, Kevin,

1807
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: here's the joke. The door is gonna open, and you're

1808
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: gonna say, well, I don't even know what time it is, right,

1809
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: and like, that's not a joke, right, But he will

1810
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: come in and be like, I don't do it, Kevin impression.

1811
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: But he will come in and make I don't even know,

1812
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even know what tap is, you

1813
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 2: know whatever. That's a terrible Kevin Hart. What do I

1814
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: do not do? Impression? His body language and his body language,

1815
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: his style, but also just that crazy ass voice. He

1816
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: can make anything funny. Really he really can't. I've never

1817
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: seen anything like it.

1818
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Is the voice important in comedy? The voice. Yes, I

1819
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say, how long have you had you have

1820
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: this sort of ratchy Joan Rivers thing going on?

1821
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: I usually get Kathy Griffin.

1822
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: Okay, I can hear that now. Yeah, but she said,

1823
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying how she was if you had

1824
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: this scratchy voice. Because you can go Jewish grandmother, you

1825
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: can go hood, you can Italian grandmother.

1826
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, still racist.

1827
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Even more German grandmother.

1828
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: That is my heritage.

1829
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 5: Do that?

1830
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? How long have I had this voice?

1831
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:34,520
Speaker 7: Jesus puppets?

1832
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1833
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 2: Probably it actually changed when I had uh, when I

1834
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 2: stopped eating dairy. This is actually true, This is not interesting.

1835
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: Feel free to cut it. Ten years ago I stopped

1836
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: eating dairy because it would make me sick and like

1837
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: my throat would start closing up. And I realized I

1838
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: was like definitely allergic to dairy, and my voice became

1839
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: scratchier and less nasally. I used to kind of tongue like, no,

1840
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I didn't, but like it did sound more nasally. Yeah,

1841
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: then I do.

1842
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: That, and now you're clear.

1843
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, now I'm clear. I'm clear and raspy.

1844
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: I see.

1845
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's always kind of been this way

1846
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: since then.

1847
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, now that you're talking, this is the clear,

1848
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 1: this is the salters. Your voices sounded.

1849
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: But what do you mean my voice is always sounded,

1850
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: But in the beginning.

1851
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: Of the show, you had the Kathy Sledge. I know, scratchy.

1852
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: It's just because I talk a lot. Right now, I

1853
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: just came from rewrite, like our shows tomorrow, What did

1854
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: I agree to do a two hour podcast the night before?

1855
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: I need to take what time you have to wake up?

1856
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: We have a tendency to keep your guest up way

1857
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: past this forever. It's ten don't look at you. Don't

1858
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: look at you.

1859
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: Christ you got ten minutes, but can you? Guys are

1860
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: so fun? Thank you Steve picked up my hat for me.

1861
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 3: Thank you for introducing me to what's his name, du

1862
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 3: Duk Duckworth.

1863
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god, don't busy.

1864
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: Did you know? Did I know?

1865
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 2: Did you? Were you aware of Duckworth?

1866
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: I know of d work he did what. I didn't

1867
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: know him personally.

1868
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 2: Did you see him on the show. Yes, Oh, he's

1869
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: so right.

1870
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I love your your I

1871
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: was kind of jealous of the music. Yeah, you told me.

1872
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 2: To do that little one hundred percent. I got his director.

1873
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't as fire, but it's a direct goddamn ripoff.

1874
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: How about that?

1875
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 3: Wait?

1876
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: Andre Allen, who did all music, is my show director.

1877
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: That's why I look. I surround myself with greats.

1878
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: That's what you need to show you're you're damn. I don't.

1879
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: I didn't come to play.

1880
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: You can't make it, But now you're not. Only are

1881
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: you going to make it. I think you're gonna thrive.

1882
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make get.

1883
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 3: Especially if you keep dancing with the folks like yeah,

1884
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 3: that's like as cool, like a dream.

1885
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: There's a body roll in every episode. It's my Afford

1886
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 2: Hitchcock moment. Look for it every episode. You'll see it

1887
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: every episode. I don't know if you saw a Hairmaid's

1888
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Tale last week, but I body roll out a window.

1889
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you you need to see it in

1890
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: every This is something that you will totally geek out on.

1891
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Like if you just binge the show whenever you have time,

1892
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 2: you will see I body roll at least once in

1893
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: every episode. It's like a secret. And now we're like

1894
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: elevating where you'll find it. It's not in a regular place,

1895
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: small as body rolls.

1896
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Boss Bill is doing the fat Albert invisible. I am

1897
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: such a proponent of the body roll, right. I think

1898
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: everybody should body roll twice a day.

1899
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: Correct.

1900
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 2: I do it all the time. But I kept doing

1901
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: it in these like sketches we were shooting and in

1902
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 2: the music and all this stuff, and they were like, yo,

1903
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 2: everything we edit your body rolling.

1904
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Damn.

1905
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Easter Egg, look for it.

1906
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 7: I have a question.

1907
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Yes, so I don't think.

1908
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:35,879
Speaker 2: What is happening?

1909
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I get b E T H.

1910
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: No problem, that's no problem.

1911
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: He does? What what channel? I mean? What srime? What

1912
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: day is it?

1913
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: It's on Thursdays at eleven pm Eastern ten pm Central.

1914
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: You can see it for free on bt dot com.

1915
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 2: Full episodes seven days from when we air, so between

1916
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: from one episode to the next you can see it

1917
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: for free. Otherwise gotta log in. You can probably also bootlegged.

1918
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't know there were clips on YouTube.

1919
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: But yo, don't I really, I really don't want this

1920
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: conversation to stop.

1921
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Robin, are you saying?

1922
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: Uh? Anyway? I am single? That what are you looking?

1923
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: What?

1924
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 5: What?

1925
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 3: What is a what is a man to you?

1926
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: Like?

1927
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 3: The perfect non perfect man?

1928
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Mate? Oh?

1929
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 3: Sorry, oh ship, No, No, I like men.

1930
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,799
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, just trying to steer around.

1931
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 3: Her hetero vibes.

1932
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: So I just thought, right, I'm just saying that we're.

1933
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 2: Trying to lure all the men with my hetero vibes.

1934
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: Woman, that's it. Men.

1935
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 8: You like.

1936
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 1: Your question?

1937
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 2: She didn't answer. I have a question for you before we.

1938
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Love the Tables, I want to ask.

1939
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:20,959
Speaker 2: Okay, first, okay, what is your favorite Robin memory? Excuse

1940
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: just know what. Everyone turned around and stared at me

1941
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 2: right now. He's a sweating bullets, tiny bead of sweat.

1942
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 11: Listen, I had it was good for you, Jamie Fox, whoa,

1943
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 11: I am sorry?

1944
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: Sorry, look it up the best? All right? No, I

1945
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: have to plead the fifth on this because it's a

1946
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: definite moment. But I can't say on the air because

1947
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: as the third person, I know what it is.

1948
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Can you tell the story?

1949
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: Does it involved Yeah?

1950
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 2: An inside flood? Oh you don't even remember.

1951
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 7: Was that cosie for something?

1952
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 2: No, no, it's an actual flood that happened inside a building.

1953
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: It happened in Las Vegas.

1954
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 7: There's Oh you were with us.

1955
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm with you everywhere. Don't you just look to

1956
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: your left. I'm there anyway. Whatever that might have been it,

1957
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: But I know, actually I know what it is. All right,

1958
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 2: Well tell a different story that you could tell. Okay,

1959
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot. It's fine. So you

1960
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 2: know you have seven your stories about you, but it's fine.

1961
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 3: Yours are shorter.

1962
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I literally told like sixteen personal Yeah, do

1963
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: it so he can still we'll be.

1964
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Robin.

1965
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you guys so much. Relations Thank you.

1966
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound girl.

1967
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Don't tell sugar Steve. We will help you find bet

1968
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna help you.

1969
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Just help me.

1970
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Get to comedy comedy show bill. I'll make sure that

1971
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: the checks in the mill as always. Thank you.

1972
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: Cocoa butter, Yes, we'll send you guys some coco.

1973
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: You get some cocoa butter, and we in fante. Yes,

1974
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 1: we will be crashing your wedding.

1975
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary, Yes, aren't we missing someone?

1976
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we're missing he's getting married right now. So thank you,

1977
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and we will see you on the

1978
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 1: next go around. The Quest Love Supremium. This is Quest

1979
01:33:45,640 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Love signing off Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

1980
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

1981
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:18,520
Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

1982
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.