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Speaker 1: Let's see if she answers, well, how much trouble are

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Speaker 1: I sweetie? Hi, hi, ne fun before we get into anything.

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Speaker 2: I bought you all the time, like all the time.

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Speaker 1: I got the sweetest card today. One of my listeners

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Speaker 1: then she wrote inside she said I've never met you,

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Speaker 1: but I I listened to you talk about your kids

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Speaker 2: I just, man, isn't it amazing how God will reach

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Speaker 2: I call it devastatingly beautiful.

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Speaker 1: You know, you never know, you never know who's listening

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Speaker 2: Hey, you never know. God uses us as a messengers.

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Speaker 1: You know. I wrote in my book that being born

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Speaker 1: You had a gift that could not be denied. Like

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Speaker 1: Anona, I love you to the ends of the earth.

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Speaker 1: I love you to eternity and back. Thank you for

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