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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation, How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on this Wednesday. As we roll along and continue to

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Speaker 2: get ready for the Combine, the Draft, the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of fun stuff, free agency on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: As we do that and put a bow on the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season as well, Matt, we continue today

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Speaker 2: with our exercise of position group report cards.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we never gave a grade on D line. I

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Speaker 3: would give it a C. We gave like Cam and A.

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Speaker 3: I would give it a C.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some bad moments.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't a strength either. And

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Speaker 2: while you're right, Cam is clearly in A. Yes, everybody else.

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Speaker 2: They had some A weeks, they had some B weeks,

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Speaker 2: they had some C weeks. They added a couple D

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Speaker 2: and F weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so I would say C or C plus.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's fair there. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: And I think we look at it and we say

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Speaker 2: they've got a lot of vertical mobility there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'd like to add another. I'd like to

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Speaker 3: add vertically mobile, dude, you know young.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and I do think there's a good chance

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Speaker 2: that we will see that either in free agency or

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Speaker 2: in the draft. But good call by you. So yesterday

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Speaker 2: we went offensive line and then defensive line. Today, let's

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Speaker 2: go wide receivers and cornerbacks, if that's all right with it,

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Speaker 2: And let's spin the block, because this is something Motes

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Speaker 2: used to yell at me about all the time. He'd

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Speaker 2: be like, you always want to start with offense, you guys,

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Speaker 2: you media guys always want to start with offense. So

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Speaker 2: since we started with the offense yesterday, let's start with

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Speaker 2: the defense today. Cornerbacks. This one's a little crazy because man,

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Speaker 2: the way that the way that the group tribute, the

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Speaker 2: way that the group started is certainly not the same

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Speaker 2: way that.

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Speaker 3: The group finished. So you have to include Ramsey for

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Speaker 3: when he was a corner I think when he's.

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Speaker 2: I think key factors into both of those conversations.

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Speaker 3: You have to include Slay.

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Speaker 2: You have to include Slag. Yes, you include Pierre, you

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Speaker 2: include Jus.

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Speaker 3: That's about it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's obviously Joey Porter JUNI.

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Speaker 2: But I'm trying to think like there wasn't anybody else that.

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Speaker 3: Not to play a ton of snaps or even per Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the group JPJ, Pierre Ramsey, Slay, Eccles,

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Speaker 2: Sante Samuel Jr.

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Speaker 3: Six Yeah. Okay, so I'm probably gonna be kinder here

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Speaker 3: than maybe the end results showed, because like contrary to

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Speaker 3: popular belief, Ramsey wasn't a disaster at corner.

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Speaker 2: No, he was not an all pro superstar, but he

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Speaker 2: wasn't a liability.

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Speaker 3: He was a Rod Woodson in his prime. But I

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Speaker 3: didn't think it was his bad corner, especially when with

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Speaker 3: the the thoughts of he's mostly gonna be slot near

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. Now, I think his days of

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Speaker 3: following guys outside the numbers like he's revis is probably

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Speaker 3: done on a regular basis. He still can do it

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Speaker 3: here and there. Slay was a disaster. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: think like early in the season, because it's better at

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Speaker 3: the end than the beginning. Slave was a disaster. I

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Speaker 3: think Eccles was a good signing, absolutely, and.

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Speaker 2: Man, you really needed him as the season, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: you started shifting around in that secondary.

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Speaker 3: And you entered the season with him basically as your

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Speaker 3: fourth guy, which is a great place to be awesome.

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Speaker 3: I remember us talking like I can't remember since I've

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Speaker 3: been involved with the Steelers their fourth corner actually being

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Speaker 3: a string totally. It's always like a special team or

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Speaker 3: a fifth round rookie or something.

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Speaker 2: Someone like Beanie Bishop that you're trying to squeeze year

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Speaker 3: And usually the third guy's question, yeah, you know. But

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Speaker 3: if your fourth guy is a plus fourth corner, great.

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Speaker 2: And that's a position that's hard to accumulate.

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Speaker 3: Depth in the n F it is. I think Porter's

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Speaker 3: an A I start to finish completely. He's an A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had he had he had a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks where he wasn't an A. But overall right,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: And I don't trust corner numbers and stats entirely, but

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Speaker 3: his are ridiculous. Pierre's are really really good. I feel

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Speaker 3: like Samuel's still kind of an incomplete. He probably played

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Speaker 3: more at the end than I gave him enough attention

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Speaker 3: or credit for. But at that point Pierre was a starter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Samuel played what maybe two hundred snaps at

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Speaker 3: most one hundred and fifty snaps something like that.

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Speaker 2: That sounds about right.

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Speaker 3: I mean they eased them into it when when he

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Speaker 3: was active and signed and Pierre was coming on strong

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Speaker 3: at the same time. It was a worthwhile signing and

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Speaker 3: I'd be really interested in bringing him back.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two snaps Samuel Junior far Off via Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Focuses count Now.

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Speaker 3: I think collectively your team speed at that position, which

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Speaker 3: is really important is below the line. It's not the

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Speaker 3: worst in the league, but it's not a fast group.

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Speaker 2: Of corners, yes, fair.

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Speaker 3: Like if they do add a corner in the draft,

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Speaker 3: I don't want them to be like he ran a

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Speaker 3: four or five to two, but he's really good football

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Speaker 3: player tackles blah blah. I want to be like I

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Speaker 3: ran a four three nine, but he needs a little

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Speaker 3: work on technique, you know what I mean? And SAME's

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Speaker 3: true when we get the safety, like defensive back. Team

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Speaker 3: speed I think should be a priority if you add

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Speaker 3: from outside the organization, particularly through the draft. There were

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Speaker 3: some bad days though, I mean Bengals Round one is

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Speaker 3: not great in that days and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's a big time AF Yeah, big timef But.

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Speaker 3: If you talk through each player, like I kind of

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Speaker 3: did it sounds pretty good, But slave played a lot

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Speaker 3: of snaps and they weren't good.

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Speaker 2: They were not. They certainly were not. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to have a tough one to grade. They're

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Speaker 2: making me. They're making me re log in to my

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Speaker 2: to my PFF account here. Okay, okay. Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 2: had James Pierre ranked as the second highest corner out

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Speaker 2: of one hundred and twelve greadable players. Yeah, they gave

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Speaker 3: Who I mean, even if that's ninety percent true.

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Speaker 2: They also had Joey Porter Junior in the top thirty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so in his days of taking a lot of penalties.

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Speaker 3: Folks are not still a thing.

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Speaker 2: They they they sure are not.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I want to run that back next year.

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Speaker 3: Like we talked with Chris, I.

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Speaker 2: Guess Corey Trice might be the only name that we forgot.

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Speaker 3: But I forgot him on purpose because I just think

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Speaker 3: he's the cherry on top. Bring him to Latrobe and

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Speaker 3: if you get something out of him, great, and maybe

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Speaker 3: get a lot out of him, but I can't count

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. I think that's I

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Speaker 2: think that's completely fair.

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Speaker 3: But he did see the he didn't see the field.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he played a snap in a rend

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Speaker 2: he came now that now that you mentioned it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he did.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, he doesn't count for this grade.

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Speaker 2: It will let me sort this. Jalen Ramsey most coverage snaps,

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Speaker 2: then Joey Porter Junior, then Kyle Duggar actually, which just

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Speaker 2: kind of speaks to the turnover in. Yeah, shuffle in

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Speaker 2: that in that secondary. Almost four hundred snaps for Brandon Eckles.

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Speaker 2: You're coverage coverage, just coverage snaps. Yeah, two fifty five

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Speaker 2: for Pierre. Yeah, that's interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: So even if Pierre was a really good corner, his

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Speaker 3: piece of the pie is not as strong. Well sure,

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Speaker 2: I mean this is graded on a curve exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's the collective corner grade for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm confident with a B.

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Speaker 3: Say, I'm gonna give it a bee. A lot of

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Speaker 3: bad tackling group. Either Porter's become a better tackler. Ramsey

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Speaker 3: it's particularly interested big time.

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Speaker 2: I think Joey Porter Junior man his ability to kind

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Speaker 2: run game. I mean it was, it was big and

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, the Josh Jacobs, James Cook. We're going to

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Speaker 2: leave that one out, although I will say I thought

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Speaker 2: there was a couple of times that Joey Porter Junior,

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Speaker 2: specifically in that game, kept the James Cook run at

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Speaker 2: seven yard gain instead of a seventeen yard gain, you know.

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Speaker 3: But regardless, I think TV has sent us something that

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Speaker 3: Pierre took over as a starter in week ten. In

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Speaker 3: week ten, okay, but so that's a pretty big body work,

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Speaker 3: but it can't count for seventeen games worth of work

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Speaker 3: in a playoff. You know. He wasn't even a full

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Speaker 3: time starter for half the season, right. I think it's

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bee. Yeah, I think I mean that's.

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Speaker 3: good as Houston or you know, but overall production from

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Speaker 2: I think I'm giving it a be too. The if

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Speaker 2: you so, if you would have told us back in

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Speaker 2: July what we thought the Steelers secondary was going to

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Speaker 2: be Ramsey in the slot with uh Sleigh and Joey

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Speaker 3: On the on the boundaries, and when they would be

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Speaker 3: in bass probably Ramsey and Porter outside, yes, probably yes, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, Deshaun Elliott and whoever it would

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Speaker 2: I forgot all about Thornhill right right that if you

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Speaker 2: would have told us that it ended with Pierre playing

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Speaker 2: over two hundred and fifty snaps, you know it's Sante

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Speaker 2: Samuel Junior playing what was the number two fifty five?

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Speaker 2: I think are sorry for wait total for James Pierre,

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Speaker 2: Uh two fifty for a Sante Samuel Junior. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think we would have taken the way that it

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Speaker 2: all Brandon Eckles over five hundred and sixty snaps, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when he was kind of thought of as your sixth

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Speaker 2: man off the bench, to use more than Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: right when you when you grant it in context, I

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Speaker 2: think you have to give him at least a B.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I give the organization credit for changing.

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Speaker 2: Same yeah right, not saying we're sticking with Sleigh, We're

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Speaker 2: sticking with this.

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Speaker 3: And one thing I went to backtrack on is I

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Speaker 3: remember having these conversations with you, like in July when

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Speaker 3: four defensive backs was on the field. Was it going

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Speaker 3: to be Slagh and Porter on the outside, Ramsey and

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Speaker 2: I think I think the land and.

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Speaker 3: I think that's kind of what they went with. And

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Speaker 3: You're not talking to all the other agents about you.

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Speaker 2: But I would like by the time that we depart

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Speaker 3: Boy, that's it's a ride, that's a long conversations. It's

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here. Back to school. Back to school to

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Speaker 2: By the way, Adam said, Yeah, position group report cards

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: Now it is time to talk wide receivers. And this

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Speaker 3: That's our bos conversation. He could be the MVP, but

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Speaker 3: I don't want him to be. It's awesome that he

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Speaker 2: It's awesome the bos can drill fifty five and sixty

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Speaker 3: I don't want my kicker to be the MVP, no

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Speaker 2: Great, I still don't want him to be the MVP, right,

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Speaker 2: I think this conversation starts with DK Metcalf and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's such a gap, Yes, before we get there. Now,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's I'm closed night and day in terms

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Speaker 2: It's way more important now than it was two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: Now, dk Metcalf's a good football player. I only anybody's

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Speaker 3: that's also a pretty short list. There's not twenty five

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Speaker 3: guys that will have done more.

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Speaker 2: There's maybe a dozen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about a dozen. So I think he's a bee.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think he's a bee. Yeah, he's a three.

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Speaker 2: He's a three point zero student. He wasn't making the

444
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 2: honor roll, but he certainly wasn't anywhere close to flunking

445
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Speaker 2: out like some people are pretending.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he's declining. I mean, we gotta

447
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Speaker 3: remember he's been a legal while I don't think his

448
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 3: best days are behind him or anything like that. I

449
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: still think he's in his prime. And frankly, I don't

450
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Speaker 3: care if he's worth a second round pick in his contract.

451
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Speaker 3: That's something we're talking about. We're talking about players, but

452
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Speaker 3: the others are an F or a D minus. I

453
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Speaker 3: I'm comparing to the thirty one other wide receiver rooms.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know who. I could try and give

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Speaker 2: a C two. And again this is.

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Speaker 3: Purely as ironic, but that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But that's because we factor in everything with Scronic.

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Speaker 3: You know what he's asked to do on offense as

459
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Speaker 3: a seed, but he's not asked to do much exactly.

460
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Speaker 3: He's asked to play eight snaps the game.

461
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Speaker 2: Ben Skronick for the year all encompassing is like a

462
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Speaker 2: B plus a minus, just as Pittsburgh steeling. But in

463
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Speaker 2: terms of pure wide receiver, that's what this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Is, right, I say this all the time.

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Speaker 2: You know, like I know, I know where you're going

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Speaker 2: with this.

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Speaker 3: The defenses thank you when you put those guys out there. Yes, right,

468
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Speaker 3: I mean every one of them, and that includes Valdez Scantling,

469
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Speaker 3: that includes stealing because the level was so high in

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Speaker 3: this league. It's like, okay, he stumbled into those dudes

471
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Speaker 3: and they did some things for you. But then you

472
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Speaker 3: look on the other sideline, and they're playing with t

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Speaker 3: Higgins in that role, you know.

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Speaker 2: Or Jordan Addison exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I mean even like Houston's not the best receiver room,

476
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Speaker 3: but they got But.

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Speaker 2: Man, I would have killed for Christian Kirk this season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or the two rookies you know that are second

479
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Speaker 3: and third round picks that are flashing a lot. Let

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Speaker 3: alone NKO.

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Speaker 2: Look at Otville, you know what I mean, even with

482
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter going down right, still had Brian Thomas, still

483
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Speaker 2: had Jakobe Meyers, still had Parker Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you do it with almost every team. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 3: I mean we talked about Pierce for the Colts. Well,

486
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: they also had Pittman and they also have Downs and

487
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Speaker 3: you know, like that's who you're comparing these guys against.

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Speaker 3: And the non Metcalf receivers would not have played many

489
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Speaker 3: snaps for other teams. No, for most teams.

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Speaker 2: Especially for division winning playoff teams.

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Speaker 3: Right, let alone like the Rams or you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah forget okay, maybe they played for the Cardinals or

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Speaker 2: the Browns or the Jets.

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Speaker 3: They'd get in there here and there, but they would

495
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Speaker 3: not have played. If we went through all the receiver

496
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Speaker 3: snap counts, it'd be way higher here than the other

497
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Speaker 3: teams for those non DK Metcalf dudes. And then he's corrected.

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Speaker 3: But that's not a secret.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's a secret at all. And

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Speaker 2: when you bring in some quote unquote rentals like they did,

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Speaker 2: they did, you know that that's they didn't shuffle through

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Speaker 2: all those wide receivers is because they were happy with

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Speaker 2: what they had and they just wanted to see some

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Speaker 2: new faces. They went to the feelings, they went to

505
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Speaker 2: the mvs's because they felt like we had to do something, to.

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Speaker 3: Do something right. And some of it's a reliability Rogers

507
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: veteran factor with those dudes. Fine, but they still who

508
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Speaker 3: does the defense not want to be on the field.

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Speaker 3: None of those guys. I mean, maybe Austin can run

510
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Speaker 3: by you. I would say he's the best of the group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's because he's got speed to burn. And

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Speaker 2: I think Calvin Austin is one of those guys. He

513
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Speaker 2: belongs on an NFL roster. He belongs on an NFL

514
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Speaker 2: field on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: His contract in a couple months will reflect that somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But he's like the the middleweight that you're asking

517
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Speaker 2: to jump up into the heavyweight division, yeah, you know,

518
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Speaker 2: or maybe the lightweight that you're asking to jump up

519
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Speaker 2: into the heavyweight. He's just punching above his weight class

520
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Speaker 2: with being a wide receiver too.

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Speaker 3: And this is probably more of a big picture NFL

522
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Speaker 3: offseason conversation that we'll have little receivers are getting phased

523
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Speaker 3: out fast in this league, and especially a little slot,

524
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Speaker 3: which has worked against Roman Wilson too, because he say

525
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Speaker 3: Roman's not getting a chance. There's no Edelman's or Welkers anymore,

526
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Speaker 3: you know, like it's just not how the league. There's not.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, this league changes so quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Like if we did a real simple exercise, like

529
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Speaker 3: who are the top twenty receiving leaders at the wide

530
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Speaker 3: receiver position this year? I bet them one hundred ninety

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Speaker 3: pounds more. Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: They all looked like DK, whereas even seven or eight

533
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Speaker 2: years ago that would have been a very different conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like Ab was smaller, but he was strong,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like.

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Speaker 2: I think some people think of like Jackson Smith and

537
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Speaker 2: Jigbu and Puka Nakua as tiny guys.

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Speaker 3: They're nuts.

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Speaker 2: They're not like Calvin Austin size not even close.

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Speaker 3: Was like two twenty.

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Speaker 2: I mean like he might not be six six, like

542
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Speaker 2: he was built in a wide receiver factory and Smith.

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Speaker 3: That jig was got thighs.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god this and it's war you know what

545
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Speaker 2: I mean, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, So little receivers are getting phased away pretty yes,

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Speaker 3: especially slots.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was part of the bringing an

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Speaker 2: MVS and Adam feeling too, is at least these guys

550
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Speaker 2: give us some size.

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Speaker 3: And not to mention, I mean it's kind of like

552
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Speaker 3: tackling and run support for the corner conversation. But blocking

553
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: matters totally. You're getting Nott and Arthur Smith offense, it

554
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: really matters. You're getting nothing from Austin, You're getting nothing

555
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Speaker 3: from Rome. And you know that's what's what Schronic brings

556
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Speaker 3: to the table. And the two guys they added have

557
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Speaker 3: some of that, but it's part of the equation. It's

558
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Speaker 3: one tenth of it, but it's part of the equation.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is they had no man beaters.

560
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: You know, like I've toltal story a million times, Like day,

561
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: get hired as a scout, go watch every coverage or

562
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Speaker 3: every snap you possibly can of wide receiver and corners

563
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: playing man coverage at the college level and you're not

564
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Speaker 3: gonna get many and teams don't play man coverage like

565
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Speaker 3: seventy percent of the time, but you have to be

566
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Speaker 3: able to beat man. And the Steelers really really struggled.

567
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Speaker 3: And boy was at obvious when Metcalf was suspended. I mean,

568
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Speaker 3: that's all you need to see. Well, if you watch

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Speaker 3: those two games, that's fiver play.

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Speaker 2: To use the basketball analogy again, you need guys that

571
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: can create their own shot. It's great that you could

572
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: come off of a perfect screen and a play design,

573
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: you need to be able to create your own shot,

574
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: sometimes with a hand in your face and a defender

575
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: all over you. Great way point it right, I this

576
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Speaker 2: I think and I'm kind of racking my brain real quick,

577
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: but I think this is. If we were to power

578
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: rank all the Steelers position groups, wide receiver.

579
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Speaker 3: Would be last.

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Speaker 2: So yes, not to be rude, but I I someone

581
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Speaker 2: has to be last. But I think it's I mean.

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Speaker 3: I I don't know how much who would If we're.

583
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Speaker 2: Going see with for the defensive line, they need to

584
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Speaker 2: be even lower than that.

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Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, and Metcalf is the reason.

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Speaker 2: I think Metcalf is the only reason that they're not.

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Speaker 2: I'm with I'm with you on that.

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00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm just judging against other teams.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's the truth. Like if you and I

590
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Speaker 2: were sitting here, you know, evaluating, uh, the Browns quarterback room,

591
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: you know, like it's it's it's it's not good, right,

592
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: it's not good. And I think they know that. We'll

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Speaker 2: see that addressed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, say, I bet the off season reflects that they

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Speaker 3: know this.

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Speaker 2: And if we look at kind of like if we

597
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Speaker 2: look at all these position groups as stock prices, I

598
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Speaker 2: bet you this time next year that wide receiver one

599
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Speaker 2: will be the one that has grown the most.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I bet in camp will be like, oh, now,

601
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Speaker 3: this is a group of receivers round.

602
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Speaker 2: This is a B and could even be an A

603
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Speaker 2: by the time lost.

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Speaker 3: In the first round pick out of Washington and Romeo

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Speaker 3: Dobbs and Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and maybe some fourth or fifth round pick too,

607
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Speaker 2: that you know we are excited about at that point.

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Speaker 3: And the pursuits of the world are put in a

609
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Speaker 3: microphone and say Roger's face and instead of like, oh,

610
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Speaker 3: these guys are coming along, well, be like now we're cooking.

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Speaker 2: Now we got in the kitchen, baby, exactly, one more

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Speaker 2: segment to go on the other side, we'll close it down.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you couldn't afford an injury.

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Speaker 2: And look at the last two games when DK was suspended,

615
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Speaker 2: how dire it was. Nobody got open.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Cool, that was a tough, tough way to live. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and and certainly the production there showed, and I got

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Speaker 2: to believe that that is not going to be the

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Speaker 2: case here until twenty six. I would be shocked if

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Speaker 2: it was one more segment to go on the other side.

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Speaker 2: We'll cross some te's, dot some eyes and get to

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Speaker 2: some of your tweets before we get up out of here.

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Speaker 2: West Wheeler and Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on the Drive on this

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Speaker 2: Wednesday afternoon. As we we've these past couple of days,

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Speaker 2: we've been touching on a lot of different topics. I

631
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: always like it this time of years. It's good, different

632
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Speaker 2: kind of conversation than the usual just x's and o's

633
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: and reacting and previewing that we've done. Now, by the

634
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Speaker 2: time we get to May, I'll be like, I'm sick

635
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: of this crap. Let's get back to the football game,

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Speaker 2: right right. That's that's the cyclical nature of a year round.

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Speaker 3: But I'll be honest, like, from after super Bowl to

638
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Speaker 3: week after draft might be better than the regular season

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Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 2: After super Bowl to week after Draft, I agree.

641
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, the team angles and these guys

642
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: are gonna get cut and these are the team needs.

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00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: We know all the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Now, but May, June and July are like pulling teeth

645
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Speaker 2: in this, in this a little bit. But I am

646
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Speaker 2: with you that what we have, what we have ahead

647
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Speaker 2: of us here in the next two or three months

648
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Speaker 2: is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the Steelers are gonna be players. They got

650
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: they got money, they got new coaches, and.

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Speaker 2: We have no we have no intimate knowledge background of

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Speaker 2: what they're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna do, right right, Like, well, this is what they

654
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Speaker 3: did they did last year. They're trying the same guy, Like.

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Speaker 2: We had a blueprints of the last nineteen years, and

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Speaker 2: that didn't always mean that they stuck to it. And

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Speaker 2: in fact, over the last five or six years they

658
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: moved away from that blueprint much more than the first

659
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, fourteen fifteen years oah Tomlin, more active in

660
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: the trade market, more active and free agency things like that.

661
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: But now it's like all bets are.

662
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: Off, Yeah exactly. I mean you used to kind of

663
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: know they'll probably take a mid round corner almost every

664
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: year and hope they find the next DYG Taylor. You know,

665
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: they probably you know, aren't going to go and they

666
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: and then there was a history of getting the thirty

667
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: plus corner, which didn't work out great. You know, like

668
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: there's some trends, yes, but they're all going to be

669
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: erased now and start over.

670
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Matt.

671
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: You known.

672
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: Every time I took my high school girlfriend out for dinner,

673
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: like I knew that she was going to get French

674
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: fries and chicken.

675
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: Fingers, yeah, you know, which is great.

676
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: But then when I started dating my wife, it was like, hmm,

677
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: I wonder what I wonder what her palette is is

678
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: all about here? You know, she wants to go get

679
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: burritos instead of you know, burgers or whatever. It's It's

680
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: gonna be fun seeing this kind of first off season

681
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: iteration of yes, familiar names like Omar Kahn and Andy Whitdel. Absolutely.

682
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Of course the organization is still going to do things

683
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: the way the organization does.

684
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: But with an overhauled philosophy from head coach, one that

685
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: we know is going to certainly have to put more

686
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: emphasis on the offense.

687
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: And he's influence too. You're like big time. I was

688
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: a fan of Shula and steel Haas and all those

689
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: if they were to came as head coach. I don't

690
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: know how much weight they would have in buying the

691
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: groceries pet's because they never had.

692
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: You know, that's a very That's I think one thing

693
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: that people is, as you and I have said, like

694
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: we know there's some people that aren't thrilled about the

695
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy higher. Sure, I think you should like that

696
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: part though. I think so too, Like he's got the gravitas,

697
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: he's got the resume to walk in and say, hey,

698
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: this is how we have to run our offense in

699
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: modern NFL, and this is what we have to do

700
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: to accomplish it.

701
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't just need a receiver. I need this

702
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: kind of receiver Nan two.

703
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: Or three, Yeah exactly.

704
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

705
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: Whereas if it's someone who's thirty eight years old and

706
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: it's their first crack at it. They might not have that.

707
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he can say that they own can say

708
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: that to anybody in the building, and not that another

709
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: head coach can't speak to the owner or whatever. But

710
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: they just haven't, you know, they've never been in those shoes.

711
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: Before we get into the tweets, one more thing that

712
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to get your thought on today. Jets hiring

713
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Frank Reich as their offensive coordinator.

714
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: Doesn't move the needle for me a lot. The Naggy

715
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: higher we haven't talked about.

716
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: I think that's more interesting too. Yeah.

717
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm not ignoring your Jets one. Yeah, right, Yeah, the

718
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: Naggy one's interesting to me, but not really in a

719
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: positive way.

720
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Reich's interesting to me just because a few years, not

721
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: that long ago, he was one of the hottest up

722
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: and coming names.

723
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: To say, at least at least he brings a professionalism

724
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: to that job in a swimming upstream environment, let's put

725
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: it that way. Yes, where the giants, I think there's

726
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: more hope. Here's my problems with with Naggy though, is

727
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna be in charge of developing Dart and it

728
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: was a while ago, but he was in charge of

729
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 3: developing Trubisky and fields with the Bears, one of whom

730
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: was the second pick in the draft. The other one

731
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: was like night, yeah, in that top twelve where Dart

732
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: was like twenty six. You know, like that, doesn't you know?

733
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: And maybe Tribisky shouldn't have been the second overall pick,

734
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: but they came in with higher hopes than even the guy.

735
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: He has now eleventh overall for fields.

736
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Okay, and neither one was a success. The other thing,

737
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: I must say, Andy Reid's losing his fastball. But the

738
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: Chiefs offense has slowly gotten worse and worse and had

739
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: created more, fewer and fewer schematic advantages. I've been using

740
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: that a lot this month, and I think when you

741
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: have Pat Mahomes, that can't ever happen, you know what

742
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 3: I mean. I feel like it's become more hey, Pat,

743
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: make a play for us, as opposed to we're going

744
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: to set you up to make plays. And I also

745
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: find it interesting that the Chiefs organization, I think it

746
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: was read basically said oh, we think Matt Naggy's going

747
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: to get a head coaching job, and he was linked

748
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: to the Titans, blah blah blah. But in the meantime,

749
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: they went and hired an offensive coordinator to do his

750
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: job before he had a job. And the term I

751
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: heard somebody use was like it was kind of a

752
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: soft firing from Kansas City. Yeah, there wasn't a spot

753
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: for him to come back to. Yeah, like we just

754
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: hired job, right, So that one, to me doesn't super

755
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: excite me. I, you know.

756
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: Not, not in the least bit. If I'm being honest,

757
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. I just I think

758
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: it's a big name. But yeah, yeah, I don't think.

759
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: I don't think Kansas City would have let him get

760
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: to this point if they thought there was something there

761
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: to hold on to.

762
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's not the greatest track record.

763
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: I am with you on that one. All right, let's

764
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: close this thing. Don Ian tweets us and says, gentlemen,

765
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: hope you're doing well. I can't. I can't believe that

766
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: jerk punks a tawny doomed us with six more weeks

767
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: of winter.

768
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: Poor guy gets a rough gig when he looks the

769
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: wrong way, right, he.

770
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: I tell you what. I also though, because that all

771
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: happened so early in the morning, Yeah, like like six

772
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: thirty seven am. No, I never have in the past,

773
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: but you know, now I've got two young girls to

774
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: have it. So I went and found I went and

775
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: found like the I don't remember it was WPXI or

776
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: whatever live stream of it, and actually watched it with

777
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: my daughters for the first time in my life.

778
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: I was like, this is ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.

779
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of hammered fifty and sixty and seventy

780
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: year olds like in pop hats and pulling a groundhog

781
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: and reading from scrolls.

782
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: Where my wife worked twenty five years ago. There a

783
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: couple of years the whole crew went to punks. I

784
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: saw her post pictures on Facebook, and she's got a

785
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: stupid ye she was. The picture she post was cracking, right,

786
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: But I mean it is just a bunch of drum

787
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: can idiots groundhog.

788
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: Right degenerates chasing around a.

789
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: Ground This year was colder than ever.

790
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you would have to pay me, Don't get

791
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: me wrong, Just in theory, I do think it'd be

792
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: like a fun, unique.

793
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: Thing to do, great weekend, right, but.

794
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: You got to like drive in the middle of nowhere,

795
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: park in the middle of nowhere, walk for a million miles,

796
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: freeze your push off because it's always in February, it's

797
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: not usually as cold as it was this year.

798
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: But I think it's hilarious.

799
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: It exists same and it's one of those like I

800
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: would love to like go down to Georgia and be

801
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: like groundhog Day huh, and they'd probably be like, what

802
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: the heck are you guys?

803
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: All along those lines. I host that podcast with Brian Peacock,

804
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: who's in Sam Pradon and and I'm like happy groundhog

805
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: Day's like, oh yeah, yeah. I'm like, let's raight up

806
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: the road from us. He's like, oh, do you go

807
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: all the time? It sounds awesome.

808
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I really don't.

809
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: Then he asked, I think Bill Murray's crew was from

810
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh right in the movie Think so? I think so?

811
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I do need to go back and

812
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: watch that movie spend a while. Ian wants to know.

813
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: He says, general question, because I'm dumb. No, come on in, Uh,

814
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy's calling plays and his hands are on the offense.

815
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: So how much will the new offensive coordinator really have

816
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: to do during game day? Good question? That's not a

817
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: dumb question. That's a good question.

818
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: It's not a dumb question, and I don't know the answer,

819
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: but it'll be plenty. I'm sure you know he's going

820
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: to be the eyes in the booth. I assume. I mean,

821
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm guessing. I don't know how their structure works on

822
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: game day. You're you guys are in the booth, like

823
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: right by those guys you see the coaches in the

824
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: booth or the ones that are on the field. There

825
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: is a dynamic there. I mean, they're absolutely going to

826
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: be in each other's headsets.

827
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: What do you think they need somebody that you trust upstairs.

828
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way different view because coverages, all that

829
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

830
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: One thing almost every head coach in the world will

831
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: tell you is, hey, it might surprise the people watching,

832
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: but we actually don't have the best view of the action.

833
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: No.

834
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: No, you're staying on the sideline right there is you

835
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: see the other side, not the greatest view, and to

836
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: analyze everything. So they want, hey, what were they doing

837
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: on that coverage? What were they doing with the linebackers,

838
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: where were.

839
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: They the safeties? Yeah, exactly, So that'll be very important

840
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: because the head coach is going to be on the

841
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: sideline of course, so he's gonna be very reliant in

842
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: the eye and the sky type of thing. And I'm

843
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: sure that they'll bounce ideas off each other a lot,

844
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: you know, right.

845
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: I think it's a it's it's like a sue chef,

846
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, it's got to be somebody that you trust,

847
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: somebody that you listen to. You can give them something

848
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: and you know that it's gonna get settled or taken

849
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: care of. They can give you something and you know

850
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: it's true and accurate and factual.

851
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's just a yes man, Absolutely no,

852
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: Otherwise it better not be what good is he? Then

853
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: you're right, and they have a lot of responsibility during

854
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: the week, big time. Yeah, And not to mention sometimes

855
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: that's the quarterback coach. It does that. This quarterback coach

856
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: is probably Arthur was on the side.

857
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: He was he was with Aaron Rodgers.

858
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 3: Ye say, he's going to be sitting there with Rogers

859
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: or whoever you're starting.

860
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: Quarterback looking at play. Yeah. Big Ron tweets us and says,

861
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: if the Steelers were to use the franchise this year,

862
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: who's the franchise tag this year? Who's the target one?

863
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm don't think there is.

864
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: One, No, you can't do it with Pierre Gain Well.

865
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: You can't do a Pier Gain well because you'd be

866
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: paying them so much above market value.

867
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: You could get them cheaper than the franchise.

868
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: And I don't think you're at a position where you

869
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: would need to do it with a Joey Porter Junior

870
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: and Nick Kerbick.

871
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Well they're not even up yet, but yeah, right, that'd

872
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: be a year away from now, that's an option. Like

873
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: if you can't get a deal done with Porter, yeah right,

874
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: the Haanchise franchise, that's.

875
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Speaker 2: Still that's still another year away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean you've got to basically be a top

877
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Speaker 3: you're paid like a top five guys.

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Speaker 2: You better be George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you basically have to be a top

880
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: twelve or fifteen player. Your position even be considered, you know,

881
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: like see them all lose not an option. You have

882
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: to play them like a tackle too, you know. I

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Speaker 3: I like I was up, yes, you know, like I

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Speaker 3: don't think that. Yeah, yeah, like those ones were.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Actually I need to put that in mind.

886
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: We need I need to make sure we got to

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00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: do a position group report card on special team. Yeah,

888
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: definitely at some point, but I just I don't think

889
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: that's even in the in the in the realm.

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Speaker 3: For the Steelers franchise tagging anybody, like, everyone remembers because

891
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: he made it. His agent made a stink of it.

892
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: Everyone remembers when Aaron Donald was like the best player

893
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: in the planet and his agents like, franchise tag stinks

894
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: because they can tag him and get my guy for

895
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: a discount. You're gonna pay him like a top five

896
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Speaker 3: defensive tackle when he's way better than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: He should be making number one edge rusher money.

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00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he should be the highest paid defensive

899
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: player in the league, not a top five defensive tackle.

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00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 3: You know, so once in a while it works against

901
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: you in some ways, like that.

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00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: A couple of quick hitters here as we wrap this

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00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: thing up, I appreciate this from James. Rashard Menenhall was

904
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: remember how yesterday we were doing that Steelers class and

905
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't thinkshard Menhall was drafted until

906
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: a few months later. Rashard Meninhall was part of that

907
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight team. However, only played four games.

908
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: It hurt because remember he got that hit from Ray

909
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: Lewis early in the season and was out for the

910
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: rest of the year. Okay, So it was that Monday

911
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: night game against the Ravens in September early in the year,

912
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: shoulder fracture, and then that was. That was all that

913
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: we saw from him that season. So he was on

914
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: that team. He does have a ring, but did not

915
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: score a touchdown and was not part of the equation

916
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: Folks, we screwed things up if we do, let.

918
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Speaker 2: Us let us know. I screw up names all the time.

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00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm I think some people stuff like that. I think

920
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: some people get bothered by that. Listen, Matt, you and.

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: I my history memories not We do not work.

922
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: For the Associated Press. We we are We are not

923
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: covering legislation or presidential stuff for you know, real things

924
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: that we're too Jabroni's talking football, Matt, exactly so we're

925
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: gonna make mistakes and get things.

926
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Speaker 3: Wrong and exactly right.

927
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Speaker 2: So we always appreciate that stuff. Uh c R Steeler

928
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: Nation Chicago tweets us and he says, I heard that

929
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: Aaron Smith is a member of the Steelers broadcasting team.

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00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: How often do you interact with him? I don't think

931
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: Aaron Smith is a member of the broadcasting team. He

932
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: does segments during training camp and stuff like that from

933
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Speaker 2: time to time with us.

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Speaker 3: I've seen him at camp. Yes, you never spoken to

935
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: him my life, okay, Yeah.

936
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Speaker 2: And so that was because in the past, remember Motes

937
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: and I used to do the alumni guest thing. Yeah,

938
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Speaker 2: and then this year I think it was Tom and Labs.

939
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: I want to say, but he does some of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I do think, like occasionally he'll do like a Katie

941
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Speaker 2: Ka TV segment with Chris Hoak or something like that,

942
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he does anything regular in the media,

943
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: you know.

944
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Speaker 3: Like Meryl does something regularly for like Steers dot Com,

945
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Speaker 3: but he's not part of the broadcast. Yes, you know,

946
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Speaker 3: I didn't know if Smith did something like that.

947
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think.

948
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Speaker 3: So.

949
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: He does occasional things, but I don't think anything in

950
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: a regular media role.

951
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Every Wednesday, Matt Stat's come out right right,

952
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: Aaron's angles don't come out or.

953
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: Whatever, exactly right, exactly right. I saw play though Merrill

954
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: is Meryll's doing. Bob Huggins does this big cancer fundraiser

955
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Speaker 2: down in Morgantown every year HM and Meryll's one of

956
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Speaker 2: the the keynote speakers. Here in a couple.

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Speaker 3: He does a lot.

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Speaker 2: He does a lot of kind of stuff.

959
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: We do that Thursday night show with Mike, and he's

960
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: always talking about he's always on the road, he's always

961
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: something different. It's awesome, or he's in the woods.

962
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Speaker 2: I know in the last few years they've raised like

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty million dollars or cancer research it and doing that.

964
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Speaker 2: So it's awesome to see Marylyn. Oh, he's awesome and

965
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. He's awesome. Last one from Joe.

966
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Speaker 2: Can we bring back Mike Malarkey's offensive coordinator. That way,

967
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: if anything goes wrong, we can say, what a bunch

968
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Speaker 2: of Malarkey to do? Good little joke there to close

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Speaker 2: us down for today. Fun show today. It's been a

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Speaker 2: fun week so far. We'll continue that tomorrow. We'll continue

971
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Speaker 2: our position report cards. We got to really start getting

972
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Speaker 2: into some super Bowl stuff tomorrow, and we might officially

973
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Speaker 2: have some more coaching hires. Certainly I think that there's

974
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Speaker 2: a really good chance that that is the case. So

975
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Speaker 2: we will roll on for the rest of the week.

976
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you about twenty two hours from now.

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Speaker 2: But that will do it for us today. Big thanks

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Speaker 2: to Nate Dogg on the ones and twos, Mister TV

979
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Speaker 2: on the video side of things. Make sure you're pumping

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Speaker 2: up those YouTube numbers and making them happy. We had

981
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Speaker 2: some content meetings this morning. We got some fun ideas

982
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Speaker 2: for some stuff coming at you. So a lot of

983
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Speaker 2: a lot of fun stuff happening as we roll into

984
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Speaker 2: the offseason for Matt Williams and I'm a Schouler. Take care, everybody,

985
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know where

986
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Speaker 2: to find us. It's on your twenty four to seven

987
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Speaker 2: home of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.