1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: With Cliff dun Brown. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: And we are going to give you our winners from 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: organized team activities here at the Ravens. Over the past 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: three weeks, we've watched practice and so this isn't just 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: week three, this is this is the whole time during 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: OTA's cliff uh, and it's it's been a good been 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: a good three weeks for sure. Got a lot of 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: good work it done, and and really minimal injuries. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: That's certainly. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: One thing that was part of the news coming out 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: here on Wednesday was that bow braid uh. And then 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: also cheat oh bay Owuozia suffered minor ankle injuries. So 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: good to get out of it healthy, yes, and a 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: lot of good work put in no question. 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the enthusiasm has been high. 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Attendance was really good. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, attendance was really good. Get guys being this eager 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: to get back into it is a good sign. Yeah, Ravens. 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: I think always practice hard and work hard, but you 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: know it is good to see after a break the 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: intensity level and the focus. I think all the coaches 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: have talked about, even players too, that you know, they 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: they're ready, They were ready to get back to work 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: and they got some good work done. So there's a 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: good way to springboard into mandatory mini camp. 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: And we will springboard into our winners here, Cliff. So 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: we have ten players that we put on this list. 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: We have some alternates as well, guys that we really debated. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: But you know, the media, you try to work with 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: round numbers. With ten, we don't want to name every 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: guy on the roster either, so you got to kind 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: of cut it down a little bit, okay, And so 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: one player that I'll start with who maybe shine the 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: most for me, was running back Keaton Mitchell. And you know, 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: obviously suffered the major knee injury during his rookie season 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: that derailed what was just an electric campaign. Guy was 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle and so not only knocked him 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: out for the rest of that year, but really caused 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: almost a red shirt second season for him, very limited 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: action on the field last year. But he looks back 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: and he's the change of direction. I really notice the 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: balance that he has and changing the direction, the speed, 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: the burst, all of it, the acceleration, all of that 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: looks back for Keaton Mitchell. 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: It does, and the confidence too. He talked about how 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: when you have an injury that serious, when you do 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: come back, you're always at the beginning kind of well 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: what happens when I get taggled? How's it going to 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: react to day after day of practice? Is it really 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: behind me? Well, he's reacting now like a player. He's 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: not thinking about that injury when he's on the field 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: and he's had special speed. I mean that is kind 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: of his superpower. I mean he in a room of 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: fast players, he still stands out on a field, so 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: he just has that special burst with the football in 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: his hands. And you're seeing that even though they're not 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: always going full speed. Now when he turns on the gas, 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: now the car responds. So I'm interested, Yeah, to see 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 3: really how Mitchell is used this year because he's such 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: a weapon, and obviously there's so deep at running back, 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: but he's just another playpip maker to add to the mix. 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it remains to be seeing what his 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: offensive role will be. It's tough when you're playing behind 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Justice Hill. But we got to see 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: here on Wednesday that when Derrick Henry and Justice Hill 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: were not practicing, you got to see. Okay, Keaton Mitchell 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: here he is running with the first team offense. 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: What does this look like? 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Right, and assuming everybody's healthy, I think it's hard for him. 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for him to get more than 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: a handful of offensive snaps. You want to give Derrick 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Henry the ball, and Justice Hill is coming off a 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: career and was fantastic last year. I think Todd Monkin 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: loves Justice Hill, especially on third down. But you know, 76 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: I think certainly as a kick returner, he could have 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: a primary role and you can break some big plays. 78 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: You can see his speed on that in that aspect 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: of the game. 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what I was going to mention it. Yeah, 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: obviously he wants to be the kick returner, and he 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: looked at it as an opportunity where he can use 83 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: his spiel automatically in the open field. And I think 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: he's right that. You know, with the kick return rule now, 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: with the touchback going out to thirty five, teams will 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: be less likely now to boot it out of the 87 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: end zone, not wanting to give you that thirty five 88 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: yard start. So yeah, Keaton, he's kind of licking his chops. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: I think it's some opportunities to break a couple of 90 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: kick returns, and certainly now he looks like he has 91 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: a speed to do it. 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: And offensively, you always want to have depth, right. The Ravens, 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, have gone through years at running back where 94 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: they've been thin, and so to say, you know, all right, 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: we already had an awesome duo last year and Derek 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Henry and just so well, now you have an awesome 97 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: it looks like an awesome trio, right, and so that's 98 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: that's really good news for this offense. All right, Moving on, 99 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to a second year Tide receiver 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: in Davantes Walker Cliff. What did you see from him? 101 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind of been my guy as far as 102 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: people standing out so far OTAs I see decisiveness in 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: his routes. He's catching everything, He's getting open a lot. 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: John Harball said the same things kind of after practice 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: that he feels that Devonte's definitely looks like a better, 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: more confident player. He's just playing with confidence. And you know, 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 3: he was a high volume receiver in college, a guy 108 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: who you know, caught a lot of passes, played in 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: different systems, and I think last year, even though he 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: didn't get a lot of opportunities or with the offense. 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: I think being in a room in this type of offense, 112 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: it was kind of a learning year where he really 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: soaked up a lot of knowledge and he's putting all 114 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: that to the test. He's got size of me. He's 115 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: a friendly target and he's really good for sure. 116 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, talented player. 117 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: And another case though in all right, what can your 118 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: role really be? You know you can have great OTAs, 119 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: that's awesome, and of course you know for further down 120 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: your career that's only going to help you. 121 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: You want to continue to develop. 122 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: But when you look at his twenty twenty five projection 123 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: of what he can do in this offense, you know, 124 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens have a lot of good wide receivers, Zay Flowers, 125 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: Rashaw Bateman and DeAndre Hopkins being the top trio. Todd 126 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: Monkins said he sees all three of those guys as starters. 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: It's not that Hopin d hop is the number three. 128 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: They're three starters. And then Tylan Wallace, who they re 129 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: signed I thought was a very reliable wide receiver last 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: year and has picked up right where he left off. 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: And OTAs made the Gruden Grinder list from Jay Cruden 132 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: or John Gruden. Right, So, you know, I think that 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: whether Devontes is a fourth fifth wide receiver with the 134 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: tight ends the Ravens have, with the running backs the 135 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Ravens have, there's just not a lot of opportunities, you know, 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: targets to go around for a fourth fifth wide receiver. 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: But again, depth is always. 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: Key, right, I mean, if you're Divante's you can't worry 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: about all that exactly is to get better, and he did. 140 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: And he has he did. Yep, I totally agree with that. 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: All right, we'll go over the defensive side. First round 142 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: pick last year, Nate Wiggins added about ten pounds of 143 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: muscle this offseason and says he wants ten turnovers. Wow, 144 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: between picks and forest fumbles from will recoveries. I don't 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: know if that's what those recruped together there too, but uh, 146 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: he looks good out here on the field, and really 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: with Marlon Humphrey projecting to be I think play the 148 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: majority of his snaps at slot corner, Nate's kind of 149 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: your number He is your number one outside on an 150 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: island one on one corner. 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: Yes, and he wants that smoke. I mean he's a 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: very young player. I think people forget how young he is, 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: but also very talented, and I think that he feels, 154 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: you know, technique and focus, as he said on the 155 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: podcast recently, that's what's going to take him to the 156 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: next level. He has talent, but I think he realizes that, 157 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: you know, NFL a different level. He can't just get 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: by on that talent, and that he's really focusing in 159 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: on the things that a lot of young players, you know, 160 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: don't learn until they're in the league three or four years. 161 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: You know that he's really focused on technique. He knows 162 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: the defense better, he has that swag that you want 163 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: from a guy that you put on the island. And 164 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: yet the way that he's been every day consistently here 165 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: after a strong rookie season, to me is another sign 166 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: of how badly he wants to be a great player 167 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Ny Wiggins does. He's not settling for good. He wants 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: to be great. Yeah. 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I agree, he has Pro Bowl talent. Zach or his 170 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: coaches all say it it's up to him. But this 171 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: guy can be one of the best corners in the game. 172 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: And you know, we saw him really in Ota. You're 173 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: not contesting balls the way you would, certainly in a 174 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: training camp, practice or obviously in a game, you're not 175 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: going out. But Nate Wiggins is in everybody's back pocket. 176 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: You know. 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: You don't shake him loose very often. I will say, 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers put a nasty juke move on him with anybody, right, Yeah, 179 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: when the Xay call was like a wide receiver, bubble 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: screen something like that out in the flats, and Nate 181 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: came flying up. The willingness was there even though he 182 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: can't tackle. He he can't flying up and say, just 183 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: did a juke to the side, and oh, Nate found air, right, 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: he found air on that one. Now that's what you 185 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: want to find. You better not be finding bodies. But yeah, 186 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: I like what I see from Nate Wiggins. And I 187 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: think just adding that muscle, filling out a little bit, 188 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: being able to press some wide receivers and get a 189 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: little bit more physical with guys, I think will help 190 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: him all right to the offensive line and the big battle, 191 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: probably the biggest battle for the Ravens for a starting 192 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: on this roster, is at left guard, and that's between 193 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Vorhees and Ben Cleveland. And I've liked what I've 194 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: seen from Andrew Voorhees as he comes back and tries 195 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: to win that job for a second straight year. He 196 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: won it last year but then lost it to Pat 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: Mcarey after he suffered an ankle injury. But the guy 198 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: on our list here is Ben Cleveland. Tell the listeners why. 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: Well, he hasn't practiced a lot at OTAs, but he is. 200 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: It looks like either going to be the starting left 201 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: guard or certainly the primary backup. 202 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: And he's in the race. 203 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: He's definitely in the race. And I believe when last 204 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: season ended, a lot of people wouldn't have expected that 205 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: in June we'd be talking about either Ben Cleveland winning 206 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: the job or being the backup left guard. He's shown 207 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: perseverance and he's such a huge individual. He knows the 208 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: system well that I feel that the coaching staff doesn't 209 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: feel that they that he has reached his speak. There's 210 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: more to get out of him. And you know, you 211 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: can't coach the type of size he has. He's not 212 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: a guy who you know, looks lost out there, like 213 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: he doesn't know the system. And he's not overwhelmed. He 214 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: hasn't been overwhelmed when he's played. In fact, you know 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: some his his play has been impressive when he's gotten 216 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: an opportunity. So this is another opportunity for Ben Cleveland 217 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: to seize the moment. He had an opportunity last year, 218 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: did not win a starting job. But this year, I think, 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, his attitude as far as you know, having 220 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: another chance to do it is probably you know, thankful 221 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: for another chance, certainly more experienced. It'll be interesting. It'll 222 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: just be interesting to see how it plays out, because 223 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: again I think a lot of people kind of pushed 224 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: him to the background when last season was over. 225 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that with that, And when benk Cleveland 226 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: has played in games like he's played pretty well, he's 227 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: held his own and last year who has used it 228 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: as an extra blocker? And I think I think it's 229 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: I would probably still say Andrew voorh He's to me 230 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: would be the favorite to win that job. 231 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: But it's not a foregone conclusion. 232 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: And that's a credit in part to the work that 233 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland has done. You can't get over you know, 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: we mentioned a side like whenever you talk to Ravens 235 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: players and you say, all right, it's a zombie apocalypse, 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: who are you taking Ben Cleveland's at the top of 237 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: everybody's lists, Like you can't get over how big that 238 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: guy is. 239 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: And just like imposing looking he is. 240 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: And and you know if bank Cleveland ever kind of 241 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: reaches it and reaches that point in his career, Like 242 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: to your point, I think that the Ravens coaches feel 243 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: like he's not he hasn't reached that potentially he has. 244 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: He's not tapped out. And and. 245 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Bear you know, even at worst case scenario, like a 246 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: high backup, back up, like a quality backup with experience 247 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: is a valuable thing in this league. 248 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: It is. He's also versatile too. 249 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's taking that step exact center, so taking 250 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: steps tackle. 251 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: Exactly, so we know how much the Ravens like versus 252 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: the offensive lineman. And that is a valuable thing. Not 253 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: all players can do that. He has shown up the 254 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: ability to line up on those spots, so you never 255 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: know where he might be able to fill in even 256 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: if he doesn't win the starting job. 257 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: Right, all right, number five here on our Listen, this 258 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: is in no particular order, but I'm going to talk 259 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: about safety Sonoosie Kane. It's another second year player who 260 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: seventh round pick a year ago, really played almost exclusively 261 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: on special teams, and this year the Ravens have a 262 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: need at safety, particularly for that number three safety role. 263 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: After our Darius Washington suffered an achilles injury which is 264 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: going to sideline him for most if not all, of 265 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: the year. Ravens are counting are hoping for a late 266 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: season return from our areas. But that's a big spot 267 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: for the time being, really big spot. On top of that, 268 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: Bo Braid suffered what John Harball called a minor ankle 269 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: injury as I said before, early this week during the 270 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: third week of OTAs and has been sidelined for the 271 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: remainder of otias. So that really forced Sanoosie Kane into 272 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: the action and lo and Behold comes up with an 273 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: interception the very next day in the end zone. So 274 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: and has flashed, got his hand broke up another pass 275 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: in that same practice on Tuesday. And I like Sanusie. 276 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: I think that he's I think he can be a player. 277 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, and coach Arbul 278 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: has already said that he's clearly in the mix to 279 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: be the number three guy. There's a long way to go, yep, 280 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: but he's strongly in the conversation. The opportunity is there. Sanousie. 281 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: I think showed a lot of you know, toughness playing 282 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: special team last year, kind of had that attitude you 283 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: want to see from a young player, like I just 284 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: want to get on the field any way I can 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: and help out. But clearly, you know, with our Darius, 286 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: the situation now that that void is there for someone 287 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: who can step in, and you know, if he rises 288 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: to the occasion, then that just makes the Ravens secondary 289 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: who's already you know, extremely talented, gives him another piece. 290 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: And you know, being around guys like you know, Kyle Hamilton, 291 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: I think he's such a great player to have for 292 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: young players because Kyle's not old. He's young, but he 293 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: plays old, and I think he can communicate well to them, like, okay, 294 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: this is what I see. Make it translated, SONOOSI being 295 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: healthy all last year gave him, to me an hedge 296 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: over some young players, rookies who were not. So he's 297 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: coming back this year with a lot of experience at 298 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: least as a special teamer and a guy who you know, 299 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: saw some action. He knows as an opportunity right now, 300 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: he seems to be reacting really well to that opportunity. 301 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, all right, we're going to take a break. 302 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll give you our other five 303 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: winners from Ravens OTAs, as well as a few alternates. 304 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Lounge. 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Gambler must be twenty one 314 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: or older to play. All right, So Cliff five other guys, 315 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna dip into the rookie class. And if 316 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about the rookies, let's start with the first 317 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: round pick, Malachi Starks. 318 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the way that everyone talks about him, 319 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: it's almost like, wow, is there anything wrong with this guy? 320 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: Mean, so he's a little bit too good something's gotta 321 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: be right. 322 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: We'll figure it out, but right now you can't find me. 323 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's got your menusibility. He's so mature, 324 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: as Coach all I mentioned, beyond his year. That's one 325 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: of the first things that struck me at his press conference, 326 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: Like he never met this person and didn't know anything 327 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: about him other than what he was away on the field, 328 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: and he handled his first press conference out are being 329 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: drafted to me like he was been around here for 330 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: five years. I'm like, this guy is, like he's how 331 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: old is he? He's a rookie. Like I was just 332 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: really impressed by that. And so he's taking that same 333 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: maturity and diligence into OTA's and he just seems so 334 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: eager to learn. You know, Coach all talked about him, know, 335 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: leading walkthroughs among the rookies at the hotel. I mean, 336 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: who does that. I mean, I'm just really right. I'm 337 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: really impressed with him as a person and with his 338 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: ability and his eagerness to learn. I think it is 339 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: going to translate onto the field. Yeah. 340 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: Field. 341 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: He got an interception this week during OTA, so good 342 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: to see him get his hands on the ball. That's 343 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: what he is he's a ball hawk, primarily playing free safety. 344 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: That's where he projects. Uh. 345 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: And I also saw him just in really good position, 346 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, things are clicking when when you're in 347 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: the position, you're around the ball a lot. That's a 348 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: good sign for safety. Saw a long catch and that dude, 349 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: I do not think he would have held onto the 350 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: ball if Malachi's playing full speed. Mouth guy was coming 351 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: fast right and pulled up, pulled off, you know, but 352 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: definitely see him. Seeing him around the ball a lot 353 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: on the field. In addition to what you're talking about 354 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: off the field and just the leadership things and and 355 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: all that, Like, you couldn't be more impressed with Malachi's 356 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: stark so far. No, all right, let's go to the 357 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: second round pick Mike Green and talk about guys. You 358 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: got interceptions. Didn't expect that from Mike Green, the pass rusher, 359 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: but I he's made. He made one of the best 360 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: players of OTAs in my opinion, dropping into coverage on 361 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: the backside of a quarterback rollout, going high to make 362 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: a pick. I mean it was a hard thrown ball 363 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and to him see him go up and make that snag, 364 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: that was pretty impressive. 365 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: Well yeah, everyone talks about his athleticism, and obviously it 366 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: showed on that play. And I think it's been interesting too. 367 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: At OTA's without the pads on this is given the 368 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: coach of the chance to have him do other things 369 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: like dropping the coverage, like try him in different spots 370 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: to see how he reacts. 371 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: And it seems like rush linebackers, sam linebackers. You know 372 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: you want to see, yeah, you want to see where 373 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: he can fit in. Right, Obviously, versatility in this defense 374 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: is highly valued. 375 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: Right, so he's reacting well to all that, and then 376 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: of course everyone's eager to see when the when the 377 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: pass do come on. And then of course in the 378 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: preseason when he's playing against other players from other teams 379 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 3: that pass rushing skill and uh, you know, you figure 380 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: a guy with that type of talent working in this 381 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: type of defense, with Chuck Smith working with him every day, 382 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: it could be really scary. I mean, the type of 383 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: ceiling that he that he could have. You're seeing everything 384 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: that you know why people talked about him as being 385 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: a first round talent. YEP, that has shown up clearly 386 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: so far, even though it's early. 387 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: At OTAs and Chuck Smith really praised Mike Green for 388 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: his hustle said like that, dude, you flip on the 389 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: practice tape. You saw it in college and you see 390 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: it here at OTAs. He is always running to the ball, 391 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: doesn't take any reps off. He really prais him for 392 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: being a very smart guy, diligent note taker in meetings, 393 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: and so just all the things that you want to 394 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: hear about a rookie coming into this league. It seems 395 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: like Mike Green's been everything that the Ravens thought that 396 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: they got as a steal in the second round, if 397 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: not even better. Yeah, all right, moving on a few 398 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: veterans that I want to point to here, one being 399 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: and you know he didn't practice a lot during OTAs, 400 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: but DeAndre Hopkins, if you go back to the first 401 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: practice this that was open to reporters and OTAs, d 402 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: hops stole the show. 403 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Just a professional wide receiver in every way. His hands, 404 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: to me are still you know, special, and his footwork. 405 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: He had a couple of sideline catches where he made 406 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: the catch look a lot easier than it was, and 407 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: he just it's funny. I actually approached him about, you know, 408 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: talking more about his kind of acclamation to the to 409 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: the Ravens and He's told me he kind of wanted 410 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: to wait for that because he just kind of wanted 411 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: to settle in on getting here and learning and playing 412 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: as well as he can. I think DeAndre Hopkins is 413 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: really serious about making an impact with the Ravens. I 414 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: think he's thrilled to be in this in this offense. 415 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: I think that when mandatory and then on into training 416 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: camp begins, he's really going to be someone who's kind 417 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 3: of looking for where he can make a really a 418 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: real difference in the offense. And to me, that's kind 419 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: of doing everything. I mean, what a great third down 420 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: target to have, what a great you know player, You 421 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: can line up any spot you want to as a 422 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: wide receiver. So yeah, I mean DeAndre Hopkins, I think 423 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: if he can stay healthy, I think that he's going 424 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: to be a guy. At the end of the year, 425 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: the people were like, Wow, he was even better than 426 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: I thought, kind of like we had with Derrick Henry 427 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: last year. Everyone knows Derrek Henry is a great player, 428 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: but I mean, did anybody really expect Derrek Henry to 429 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: do what he did last year in his first year 430 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: with the Ravens. I think DeAndre Hopkins could exceed some 431 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: expectations if he can stay healthy. 432 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, and let's go to Odafeoway, who put 433 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: on twenty pounds. You know, part of OTAs is these 434 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: players show up and it's the eye test. Who's been 435 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: working out, who's gotten bigger, who's stronger, all those things 436 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: in the first guy off the bus that jumps out, 437 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: that would be your Dafeoway of muscle, and he looks 438 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: at now. Of course, with the OTAs, when the pads are on, 439 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: you can only evaluate. 440 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: So much, right, you know, the bull rush. 441 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: You're not bulling anybody, And so I don't think that 442 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: we've certainly seen the full effects of what that added 443 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: muscle will do for Da Faoa. But goodness gracious, he 444 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: looks good. 445 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: He looks really good, and he's a young player. And 446 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: I thought Chuck Smith was a good tone about this 447 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: is kind of the natural evolution for him, that he's 448 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: still a guy who's kind of growing into all the 449 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: things that he can do physically and trying to push 450 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: the limits of you know, what he can do. To me, 451 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: it sounded like that putting on the twenty pounds wasn't 452 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: that difficult for him, And obviously, you know, the straight. 453 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: It's not very difficult for me, I'll say that, but I. 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: Don't think we look as good when we do that. 455 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he his body can handle that, and obviously 456 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: it looks like almost all all muscle. I don't know 457 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: what you know. If you put on twenty pounds and 458 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: not picking up body fat, that's pretty good. So yeah, 459 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: he had he had his best season last year. I 460 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: think it was that was huge what he did last 461 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: year a da fe. I think finally now feels like, Okay, 462 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm seeing the fruits of my labor payoff. He's always 463 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: worked hard, but I think at times before last season 464 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 3: he was kind of frustrated with maybe not getting the 465 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: results he wanted. Totally last year came together for him. 466 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: I expect it's nowhere but up based on how he 467 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: looks and how he's playing so far. 468 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, last gout in our list, and we'll 469 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: give our editorial assistant, Justin Robertson credit for this one. 470 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: He you know, just like in the Ravens scouting department, 471 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: in that in the draft room, you got to stand 472 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: on the table. You gotta have the stick your neck 473 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: out like the draft, right, and Justin he pounded the 474 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: table for this guy to put him on the list, 475 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: So we'll give him credit. Cornerback, this undrafted rookie. Okay, 476 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: so this is dark horse cornerback Ruben Lowry of Tennessee Chattanooga. 477 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: Couple picks, a couple of interceptions, you make plays on 478 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the ball, You're making the list. Yes, right. I don't 479 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: know if he's gonna make the team, but he's making 480 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: the list right for now? All right, so you got 481 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: a couple of interceptions. Is a five foot nine, five 482 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: year starter at Chattanooga. You know, I mean three interceptions 483 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: to return for touchdowns during his college career. Hey, look, 484 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I in all seriousness, like, it's gonna be tough for 485 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: any undrafted rookie to make this fifty three men roster. 486 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: This is this roster's loaded, sure, and it has a 487 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: large rookie class. 488 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: Drafted rookie class eleven. Right, that's large. That's large. So 489 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough. 490 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: But Ruben Lowry, the more you can do, even if 491 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: it's just practice squad or whatever. 492 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: You know, Hey, could he be down the road. 493 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: Potentially like a slot corner option if they're looking for 494 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: another slot. Maybe he showed up through OTAs we'll just 495 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: say that, right. 496 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: I mean, that's all you can do. And I mean, 497 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully, you know it'll happen for the Ravens, 498 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: but even if it weren't here, I mean, this is 499 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: the start of his career and you're all every day 500 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: there's tape coming out people, you're putting what you can do, 501 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: showing whether you can be in the NFL or note 502 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 3: and maybe he would come back for the Ravens at 503 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: some point, even if it didn't work out for him 504 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: this year. You just never know how your career is 505 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: going to turn out. I remember speaking with Anthony Levine 506 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: about playing his first year in Green Bay before he 507 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: came a long time Raven and he felt like the 508 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: coaches in Green Bay probably didn't even know his name 509 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, and then when he 510 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: got here he found his niche So yeah, I mean, 511 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: power to him for getting the two pigs. He obviously 512 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: has a nose for the football based on his college stats. 513 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: That's all you can do. He's shown up. We're talking 514 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: about him now. 515 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, all right, so a few alternates, you're close 516 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: to making the list that we want to shout out 517 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: real quick. 518 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: Roquan Smith is fit and ready, man. 519 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean that guy every day here at OTAs and 520 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: he looks he looks like he's in mid season form, 521 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: ready to rock. Right. I also will give him a 522 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: lot of credit because I talked to Trenton Simpson after 523 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday, and Trenton said that Roquan came back 524 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: this offseason to Baltimore to spend the entire offseason, like 525 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: two weeks after the year ended. Roqwan came back and 526 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: he and trent and Simpson have been working together for 527 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: the entire offseason, watching film, working out together. They've been together, 528 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: and like credit to Rokwan Smith for saying, like, look, 529 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I know this young guy who's very talented, has a 530 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: great attitude worker. I'm gonna do everything I can to 531 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: make this. 532 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: Work, right. I mean, Rocwan is a unique person. He's 533 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: a such a leader. He's he's a leader in a 534 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: room full of leaders, and that's the type. I'm not 535 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: surprised to hear that. It's I've impressed, I mean quite honestly. 536 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, I think Roquan certainly has made it 537 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: known he likes to travel too, right, Like he loves 538 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: pours everything into it but he also has an outlife 539 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: outside of football and has traveled the world and done 540 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: all those things. He didn't do that seemingly this year 541 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: he came back and he works with Trenton Simpson. 542 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: No, I think Roquan, I mean, I know Roquan how 543 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 3: badly he wants that ring. Yep, I think that has 544 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: something to do with it. I mean he can speak 545 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: to it himself. But yeah, I mean maybe if you 546 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: know things have turned out differently, he would be traveling. 547 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: But you know, Italy will be there. This opportunity to 548 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl. He can taste it. They all can, 549 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: and so yeah, if he can help Trenton Simps Simpson 550 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: and obviously Roquan himself, I mean he has high standards 551 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: for himself being in the type of shape he is 552 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: now in June to me, is only going to help 553 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: him in September. Yep. 554 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: TJ Tampa second year cornerback. There's a lot of guys 555 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: second year players on this list because it's a It's 556 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: a group where last year Nate Wiggins and Roger Rosengarten 557 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: had phenomenal rookie seasons played a ton became almost instantaneous 558 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: key members of this team. The rest of the rookie 559 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: class really did not see a lot of action last year, 560 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: so it's it's a really big offseason for them to 561 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: really kind of establish themselves. Hey, maybe I'm not gonna 562 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: have a huge role this year, but I'm gonna be 563 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna improve as a player and I'm gonna have 564 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: a bigger role and you can count on me if 565 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: need be. 566 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: And TJ. 567 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Tampa is in contention for a reserve If not, can 568 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: he can he push you know, chidobe A Woozia maybe 569 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, for that kind of third cornerback spot behind 570 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Wiggins and Marlon Humphrey. 571 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: I thought TJ. 572 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Tampa had some flashes during OTAs he had an impressive interception. Uh. 573 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: And I think that he's flashing his talent. 574 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: John Harball said, you know, he's a big corner and 575 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: getting him to play like a big corner that'll be 576 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: key for him. But you see flashes of how good 577 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: a player he can be. 578 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: No question. I mean, you know, after Nate and Marlon, 579 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: I mean even though Cheto has a lot of experience, 580 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: I think everything else is not inked in pen about 581 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: who is going to get the most reps and how 582 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: the depth charge is gonna stack out. 583 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: Jon Davis. 584 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: You have a couple of six rookies and Cooney and 585 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: i'll say Robert Longer be So you have a lot 586 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: of you have a lot of corners. 587 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: A lot of competition, and TJ is in the mix. 588 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: And if he can stand out, I mean they know 589 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: he has talent. They drafted him and had high expectations 590 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: for him. And yes, the rookie season didn't go exactly 591 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: the way he played, but yes, I see signs that 592 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: he's ready for the competition, which is going to be heavy. 593 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: He has the talent. That size he has already separates him. 594 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: If he can, you know, you that to be a 595 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: guy who can consistently stag days. That's what you want 596 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: to see from TJ. Obviously, consistency and staying healthy. If 597 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: he does that, then he has a great opportunity to 598 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: be a guy who gets on the field on a 599 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: regular basis a way the Rays like to play defense, 600 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: with so many different parts of so many corners, they'll 601 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: have a role if he can stay healthy and play well. 602 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, last several guys who'll run through this 603 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: rapid fire. Here Leschonte Western, the rookie wide receiver slash 604 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: punt returner. I think that making plays on offense, which 605 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: isn't surprising considered he made a lot of plays over 606 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: his college career, including a Colorado last year. Adisa Isaac 607 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: another second year player that, like we've talked about outside linebacker, 608 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: dealt with a lot of injuries last year, multiple hamstring injuries, 609 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: not to mention the groin injury that he came into 610 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: his career with, and so you know, injuries are hopefully 611 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: behind him. Talked about all the training he's done this offseason. 612 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: To make sure another impressive athlete. 613 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at him, man, he he looks impressive. 614 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: And Ravens have a lot of young outside linebackers compete 615 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: for snaps, so it's it's tough, but he's a guy 616 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: that caught my attention during ot as. Anthony Miller, the 617 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver, made some spectacular catches. 618 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: He made some great catches. 619 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: Yes, yep. 620 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: So a player that late in the season last year 621 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: was catching balls like in the playoffs. Yeah, it was 622 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: say Flowers out who just called it. 623 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: It's Anthony Miller out there catching balls. 624 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: So you know he's he's fighting to try to yeh, 625 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: He's fighting to try to make this roster and so 626 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: credit to him. I think he's had a strong OTAs. 627 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: So those are the guys on our list. Lamar Jackson, 628 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: I think in the day that he was here looked great. 629 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: But not a lot of participation from Lamar over the 630 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: course of OTAs. But I expect more here with mandatory 631 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: mini camp coming up next week, so we'll have tons 632 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: of courage from that. Thank you Cliff for joining me 633 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: and thank you for those listening. As always, you can 634 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot 635 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: New