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Speaker 1: All right, what I welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This

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Speaker 2: We are a week in or slightly over a weekend

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Speaker 2: my tenures the head headball coach.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should get some HBC hats.

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Speaker 2: That'd be cool anyway, to go along with all the

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Speaker 2: gear I've gotten since I've become the headball coach at

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Speaker 2: Green Bay. I got lots of kind of interesting nuggets

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Speaker 2: and tidbits to get to. But I do want to

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Speaker 2: start this podcast thinking about my childhood friends Adam Walton,

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Speaker 2: Nate Walton, Chris, and Luke Walton. Not as close with Luke,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here light yet. Chris, known as

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Speaker 2: Toughy Toughy, obviously played for my brother at San Diego State,

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Speaker 2: And then when we were in college, when he was

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Speaker 2: And then of course Adam was my teammate since like

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Speaker 1: Grade, and he was just.

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Speaker 2: Every bit of joy that you felt from Bill Walton.

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Speaker 2: Like that's truly how Adam always has been. And I

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Speaker 2: have about five of the best Bill Walton stories ever

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Speaker 2: in my life. Five of them occupy It's part Bill Walt.

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Speaker 2: My first Final four, the first Final four was in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. I was thirteen years old and I

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Speaker 2: and my dad got one ticket.

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Speaker 1: The way it works with the NABC is if you're

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Speaker 2: Dad had one ticket, and what I would what I

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Speaker 2: And then I'd go up a level two tickets for

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Speaker 2: But in this particular year, Bill was so appreciative to

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Speaker 2: And so we walked in like past the because I

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Speaker 2: then we just followed him, and I remember they opened

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Speaker 2: I'd never seen TV trucks before, walking into a dome,

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Speaker 1: We watched the games, which are incredible. So that's the first.

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Speaker 2: That's my first Final Four is connected with Bill and Adam.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've I've worked with him so much since,

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Speaker 1: There's a party. I think it was twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: They'll talk through a break, doesn't even matter. Then he

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Speaker 2: research board in uh in Northridge, California. We had Bill

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Speaker 2: I think it was to honor him. And when I

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Speaker 2: I've so this is like maybe two years ago we

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Speaker 2: And then this year we had him on and we

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was the introducing so quokes one year. I

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Speaker 2: an interesting cat man, interesting cat. First time I met

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Speaker 2: Bill's first wife, Susie is awesome. It's just really cool,

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Speaker 2: You know, what we would do is my dad would

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Speaker 2: We go in the backyard and there's a tep and

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Speaker 2: says Bill Walton Moore, than beautiful house like Nice's house

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Speaker 2: So it's sad. I mean, anyone in this day and

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Speaker 2: with the year Zono win Conference of champions. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: that's more than just a little bit ironic, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I truly enjoyed working with him with Westwood One. He

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Speaker 2: only because this year he could go to the final

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Speaker 2: four four West with one. He always hopped out with

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Speaker 2: us and wax poetic for a couple minutes. He's in

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Speaker 2: any conversation of the biggest player college basketball, and you

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Speaker 2: got Dominie was in Portland. Here's the big Red band.

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Speaker 2: That's a life well lives.

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Speaker 2: Lie, Okay, let me catch you up on what's what

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Speaker 2: it's like to put together in college basketball for so,

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Speaker 2: gonna use this and here market is almost my audio

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Speaker 3: This is my diary.

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Speaker 2: I've had several people tell me, hey, you should really

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Speaker 2: really keep copious notes, You should keep a journal. I

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Speaker 2: NCAA rules. I can't talk about prospects, but I can

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Speaker 2: talk about dudes that I got that are that that

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Speaker 2: As much as I knew, I had the job Saturday

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Speaker 3: His kids three year old birthday party.

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Speaker 2: And and I only know this because that's what you know.

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Speaker 2: We're all honest with each other here, and that's what

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Speaker 2: day ten and we're moving and shaking. But it has

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Speaker 2: come together. You do learn that some you know, as

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Speaker 2: you're recruiting, the power really is in the player's hands

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Speaker 2: on some of these recruiting things and on others it's

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Speaker 2: in your hands. But you gotta be cautious that way.

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Speaker 2: Why is somebody giving me this kid? Why is this

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Speaker 2: Do you understand? Because presumption is you can't win with youth,

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Speaker 1: They're in the portal for a myriad of reasons. You know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's because the initial ask was too big. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's because the teams that could meet that ask there

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Speaker 2: wasn't the role that they desired as well. And if

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Speaker 2: you don't have the role, then this will be the

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Speaker 2: last time you make any money play basketball. And look, guys,

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Speaker 2: some guys if people missed on or they're too small,

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Speaker 2: or they can't go right, or they can't guard anybody,

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Speaker 2: or they struggle academically or whatever. But I do think

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Speaker 2: that every piece of advice I've gotten is about being thorough,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to be as thorough as possible, and

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Speaker 2: being thorough is not usually my strength. All Right, more

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Speaker 2: to come, I'll give you more insight into what it's

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Speaker 2: like to coach college basketball. Really soon, but I just

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Speaker 2: want to make sure people do My thoughts. But the

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Speaker 2: lake great Bill Well, I'm Doug Gottliet.

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Speaker 1: This is all ball