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Speaker 1: Joining us now is Fernando Vargas Junior and his dad, Fernando,

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Which one? Which you got?

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Speaker 1: Junior? You got Mabo? You got my brother's over here?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Three boys here? And what the hell

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Speaker 1: we'll start? We will start with you dad. We got Canelo,

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Speaker 1: We got Crawford. We got a guy that's moving up

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Speaker 1: basically three weight classes. He only fault one fight at

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Speaker 1: fifty four, so basically he's jumping three weight classes, going

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Speaker 1: to Canelo, the big dog, the undisfewed one sixty eight

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Speaker 1: super middleweight undersfeutered king. What are your expectations of this fight?

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Speaker 1: And how does Crawford solve this puzzle?

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Speaker 2: I love both Crawford.

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Speaker 3: We're very cordial with one another. We you know, we

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Speaker 3: have you know, whenever we see each other, we we hug.

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Speaker 3: He's a good dude, same way with Canelo. But there's

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Speaker 3: weak classes for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Everybody keep saying that there's weakness for a reason.

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Speaker 3: Then, And I'm not saying that he's not gonna have

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Speaker 3: success early, because I think he's gonna have.

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Speaker 2: This success early.

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Speaker 3: But this is thirty six minutes bustled, thirty six minutes

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Speaker 3: of a fight, of a world championship fight.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna be able to keep

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what Tarboro. We just had Tarboro.

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Speaker 1: Tarboro says that he can't keep Canelo off him. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard for him to beat him because Carnelo

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Speaker 1: were press him and he just said Tarboro. Antonio also

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Speaker 1: said the body shots. He said, the body takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of your conditioning, absolutely, and Canelo is gonna try

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Speaker 1: to work the body early. What if you were, let's

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Speaker 1: just say, for the sake of argument, you're fighting Canelo,

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Speaker 1: how would you go to try to solve that puzzle?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, us Mexicans are known for body shots. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we're we we we were born and they slap us

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Speaker 3: in the bush. And then then we had the doctor

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Speaker 3: who us Mexicans go to the body like with all

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Speaker 3: with killers. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it's just

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Speaker 3: like my own whole life.

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Speaker 2: We know about those body trucks. Jovis, that's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Company gonna killing people to the body and we're knock

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Speaker 3: him out.

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Speaker 2: I just feel that those body trucks are going to

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Speaker 2: be too much. Yeah, too much, man.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I think about it Fernando question if

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Speaker 4: you're bug understanding their weight classes for a reason, Skills

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Speaker 4: pay the bills. Yeah, fighting styles make fights. Do you

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Speaker 4: think Bud has the type of fighting style? Not saying

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Speaker 4: that Floyd Mayweather. Does he have the type of fighting style,

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Speaker 4: the type of footwork, the type of offense and defense,

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Speaker 4: whereas defense can become his offense to be able to

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Speaker 4: survive at Tarvers thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Fight, I believe.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 5: You know he started the whole fight with Spence as

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Speaker 5: a South Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so for a Southpaull for another.

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Speaker 5: South Paul, it's like, oh okay, So look, I think

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Speaker 5: Crawford is one of the best fighters of our generation.

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Speaker 5: You know, skill wise, he could compete in any generation.

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Speaker 5: But I just feel, like my dad said, you know,

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Speaker 5: right on the money, I think the way it's going

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Speaker 5: to be a little too much in the later rounds.

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Speaker 5: I see Crawford having early success landing shots on Canelo,

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Speaker 5: maybe it being one sided, yes, and then I do

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Speaker 5: end up seeing Canelo, you know, picking him apart in

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Speaker 5: the later rounds.

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Speaker 4: Even if it's conditioning is on point, you still think

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Speaker 4: Canelo will be able to pick him apart in the

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Speaker 4: later rounds.

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Speaker 5: Look, Crawford, if he fights a perfect fight, he could

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Speaker 5: be a canelo OVAs he has the skills to be

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Speaker 5: able to, you know, get fighters frustrated. He had a

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Speaker 5: layoff though, I think he had like a year layoff. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you know that that plays a little factor as well.

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Speaker 5: So we're just gonna have to see what Crawford and

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Speaker 5: what Canelo we get Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I look at Bud and you look at and

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Speaker 1: I say Canelo. Canelo probably walks around at one nine, easy,

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Speaker 1: drifts down. He got no next two.

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Speaker 5: He's like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. As a matter of fact, y'all remind you.

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Speaker 5: But we did a lot of exercises this camp too,

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Speaker 5: of that exercises that we needed and we're good to go.

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Speaker 1: So and and I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at him. Is that he mentioned that? Uh Crawford

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Speaker 1: south Paul, but he got dynamite in his right hand.

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Speaker 1: He's a natural south but he can find orthodox very

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Speaker 1: few people. But has has Canelo fought anybody other than

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Speaker 1: Floyd that can put punches together like Crawford.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: I think I think Crawford he has that wild card,

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Speaker 5: he has that it factor. Where it's like, Okay, Crawford can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real with you.

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Speaker 5: When this fight first of all called off, I thought

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Speaker 5: it was like a like what Canelos too big?

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Speaker 1: Canelo all the way.

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Speaker 5: As getting closer as Budd's physike is not like flabby

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Speaker 5: and you see him Bill, I'm like, hold on, hm,

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Speaker 5: Bud has everything to gain. I think there's more pressure on. Yes,

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Speaker 5: if he wins, it's like he was he Crawford's two

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Speaker 5: way classes. I mean, he was trying to achieve greatness.

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Speaker 5: But if Crawford wins, Crawford gets all the praise and

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Speaker 5: being the you know, all time great for the generation.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, I think Crawford because Crawford was having

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Speaker 1: the strip down to forty seven. Crawford probably walks around

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Speaker 1: naturally at eighty five ninety, So now he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to come you drop that extra twenty pounds that he

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Speaker 1: would normally get to have to go to forty seven.

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Speaker 2: Now he can stop it at sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: So how if you were to say, let's just say,

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Speaker 1: three months after fight, how much three four months after fight,

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Speaker 1: how much you think Bud weigh when he was fighting

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Speaker 1: at one forty seven?

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Speaker 6: How much.

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Speaker 2: You think he weighed about sixty sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: You think that's that's I think Bud was bigger than that.

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Speaker 1: I think Bud hold on.

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Speaker 2: But brothers don't put on as much walking around like

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Speaker 2: what you got you.

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Speaker 3: Got a swam cap, know, like no, no, your.

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Speaker 7: Topically we look at food and.

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Speaker 1: Canelo coming into Canelo might be one eighty five when

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Speaker 1: he when he refu Yeah guarantee, Oh absolutely, he gonna

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Speaker 1: be one night, easy, easy, for sure, for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So Fernando, Yes, it's Saturday, You're going up against Callum

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Speaker 4: wallsh I'm sure do you watch much film when when?

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Speaker 4: When you before before fight? Do you watch film on

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Speaker 4: boxes like we do when it comes to football. You

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Speaker 4: watch your opponents so you can get their tendencies, what

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Speaker 4: they like to do, see what you can find, pick about,

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Speaker 4: pick pick things that you might see that works on

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Speaker 4: on them when they fight other fighters.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys do that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: You know he said he didn't do his due diligence

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Speaker 5: and watch film or tape that's on you. You know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. I have a legend father, where we took

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Speaker 5: this fight serious. I mean I've had over a two

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Speaker 5: much the camp I had way more time than needed

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Speaker 5: for this guy. Of course I study tape on him.

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Speaker 5: He's a great fighter. You know, he has the backing

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Speaker 5: of Freddie Roach. And when I do beat him, I

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Speaker 5: want my flowers, not because of Daddy, not because they've

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Speaker 5: been cherry picking this way. God made this moment for me,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to show the world what I'm about.

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Speaker 4: So when you do watch film on a Calum w

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Speaker 4: wassh what challenges does he present when it comes to

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Speaker 4: fighting in the ring.

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Speaker 2: I got if they are If they are any, I

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Speaker 5: You know, he he has he has the power, and

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Speaker 5: I have the power to end things early. So I

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Speaker 5: know for the first couple of rounds, I got to

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Speaker 5: be in there, super smart, nice, tight guard. And without

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Speaker 5: going into much into my game plan, I just know

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Speaker 5: that Callum is not a better fighter than me. He

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Speaker 5: wants to talk about the experience and I find people

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Speaker 5: in Russia and that's that's amateurs. So you know, the

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Speaker 5: best of Cubans haven't converted as the best of Prosy.

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Speaker 5: And I'm extremely, extremely motivated for this fight. And uh,

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Speaker 5: the casinos have me as the your dog. I'm not

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Speaker 5: worried about it. Baby, you can never kind.

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Speaker 2: Of bargains out.

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Speaker 5: And I'm just gonna show the world, you know, they

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Speaker 5: know White made a big mistake, bro yah.

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Speaker 1: Being a being a dad, of being a professional fighter yourself.

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Speaker 1: Is this the profession you wanted your kids to go?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: No, he had a he had college paid for he

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Speaker 3: I would put these guys in Pop Warner basketball will

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Speaker 3: be one of the best corner each each of them.

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Speaker 3: If they didn't make three touchdowns a game, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: the game athletic basketball.

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Speaker 2: He's a didn't play for him, but you know he's a.

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Speaker 3: Hooper and and I and I want to my kids

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Speaker 3: not to fight, none of them, but I'm ConA finding

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Speaker 3: the freaking baby says it's like this champion don't want

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Speaker 3: your kids know And he goes, Okay, who's gonna tell

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Speaker 3: not gonna tell them.

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Speaker 5: Still, you know, my dad my dad, But to me,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's Superman man my dad. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if I could say it like this, but you know

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Speaker 5: my dad had the courage to fight anyone in any

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Speaker 5: given night. You don't see that with fighters no more.

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Speaker 5: Like win loser draw You knew that my dad was

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Speaker 5: coming to fight. He was either gonna fight you in

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Speaker 5: the weighans or win loser drawing. I mean, Barcas is

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Speaker 5: gonna give you a great fight. And that's what this

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Speaker 5: generation is missing, is putting putting your records on the

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Speaker 5: line and just giving fight fans great fights.

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Speaker 4: Why are the fighters in today's era scared to take chances?

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Speaker 5: I think the Floyd generation kind of, you know, affected

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody wants to be Floyd, have Noid money.

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Speaker 5: Everybody wants Floyd money.

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Speaker 2: But hey, pretty boy Floyd.

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Speaker 5: That that guy was different, Diego Corrals, artro Gotti moving

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Speaker 5: up and way. I mean my dad was the Olympics

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Speaker 5: with him. So it's just it's a different time now.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: Now we got the Jake Paul's and you know, you

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Speaker 5: got a que little left hook, you got an I smile.

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Speaker 5: Now now you're marketable, So it's just killers like my dad.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just very different. You know, you got

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Speaker 2: to really be a dog back back in my dad's.

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Speaker 5: Head to be champion the one fifty four pound division

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Speaker 5: of my dad's day Trinidad.

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Speaker 2: As my dad that wiki fight. Come on, that went bought?

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Speaker 1: That fight was okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with you said something very interesting. You said the

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Speaker 1: under the O is that people have attached greatness to

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Speaker 1: the Oh yes, is that? Do we not? Because Sugar

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Speaker 1: Ray doesn't have an O? Is he not great?

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Speaker 2: Sugar is one of the best fighters in Sugar Ray Leander,

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Speaker 2: Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray.

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Speaker 3: Leonard one of the best fighters that have ever did yep.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ship, have you fight world champions? You have

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Speaker 3: And the Forum of Famers and the world champions that

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Speaker 5: Dad, the Trinidad fight. You know how much you almost

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Speaker 5: Like some of my dad's losses were his biggest wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you will tell me that. People tell me that

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Speaker 2: You're fucking these fools up too well. You know it happens.

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Speaker 1: You don't dunk anybody, and guys that guys didn't duck.

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Speaker 3: That's just the times we're living in social media time.

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Speaker 1: Fight, did they go to distance somebody getting somebody, somebody,

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Speaker 2: I think that See everybody thinks that Junior is the

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Speaker 3: We we fighters that we need to fight to build

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Speaker 3: Now, like I said, Junior here as a little kid,

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Speaker 5: But this fight is praising my power, praising his power.

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Speaker 2: Like, I want to show that I'm a complete fighter.

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Speaker 5: eyes are on Fundora, My eyes are on Virgil. My

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Speaker 2: I want that.

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Speaker 5: I want glory for myself. Yeah, you know, look, I

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Does Dad give me fights? Nah?

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Speaker 5: I'm in here and I really want to be taken serious,

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 1: How difficult was it to coach knowing what you accomplished?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't difficult because that's a lot of pressure,

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Speaker 3: Like I became a I'm up gonna be honest with you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Pappy. You can say this with daddy. I want to

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Speaker 3: And then I go then I go there now, and

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Speaker 2: I picked him up. The first thing that came out

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And so I became a trainer.

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Speaker 3: And you looking at Minano, killer just like his daddy,

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Speaker 5: I'm out to say that you're not gonna be no

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Speaker 1: I like it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: People, man, my brother bargains, thank you, ju thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget that, Junr.

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Speaker 2: When they when I said this, where people go Fernando,

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Speaker 1: Fernando.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's been amazing. Man, it's uh to see.

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Speaker 1: You know, I haven't been around a whole you know,

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Speaker 1: We talk about we talked about talk about football, and

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Speaker 4: If you look at the routine and the way Canelo fights,

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Speaker 2: He always starts slow.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't he doesn't start pressing you until maybe round three,

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Speaker 2: And he does it every fight.

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Speaker 4: He takes off rounds six, seven, and eight and then

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Speaker 4: He does the same thing every fight, regardless of who

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Speaker 2: But boy, once once.

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Speaker 4: Canelo turns it up and start coming forward, it's a

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting. Budd says he's ready. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And be at weight.

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Speaker 1: off him and do all this crazy stuff. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: big boy. Yes, he was telling us that besical typt

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Speaker 2: Different ball game.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole different ball game. So I'm anxious to

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Speaker 1: see this thing, how this thing really shapes out. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: what you're thinking.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm pull up a Bud. I'm pulling for it.

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Speaker 4: I understand the sweet science though, I understand there are

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait, I'm excited. I hope he excuses game plan.

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Speaker 4: I hope he does.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm pulling for him. And sometimes with your look,

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Speaker 2: judges out here.

446
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: But don't get me started.

447
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 2: I'm judged out here in Vegas.

448
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: I think, what do you call him? I think, uh,

449
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: can Bud clipping? Can Bud? Can can? Can Bud hurt.

450
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: Canelo clipping hurt him?

451
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: M he wasn't even hurt with Triple G. I think

452
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: because he wasn't hurt Withal. You remember the movie Predator, Yeah,

453
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: Arnist Swarts when arnistwar Arnold character, Yeah, the Predator, and

454
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: he saw that he saw that green stuff on the leaves.

455
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: He said, if he'll bleed, we can kill it. Yeah.

456
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: I remember that part.

457
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 2: Remember that part.

458
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 6: I remember that part.

459
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: That's the moment, the one from Rocky Yeah, Jon Webers,

460
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Bud's gonna have to be able

461
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: to hurt him to see that he can be he

462
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: can do it.

463
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything to add a little bit more confidence.

464
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna it's hard to uh to a guy

465
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: that size, and I don't. Look, Bud is like, the

466
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: fight's gonna play out. Hgh, it's gonna play out, But

467
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't. It's hard for me to see a scenario

468
00:21:54,359 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: where Budd thinks he could out point him. It's gonna

469
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: be difficult.

470
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 4: I've seen one person out point out point Canelo, and

471
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: that was Mayweather.

472
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: But that would even close that.

473
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you forought Bravall, that was overpowering strength. Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah,

474
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 4: we're just overpowered you. You're fighting a bigger man, You're

475
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: fighting a more powerful man.

476
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

477
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 2: So that's why it looked like so we're overwhelmed.

478
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: If but Ball is going to the ring at once

479
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: said if fire, Hell, he weighed two team two fifteen.

480
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Probably won coming down from two to fifteen probably.

481
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: Uh. But at the end of the day, that's what

482
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: it comes down. It comes down to. Look, we know

483
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Bud is scaled, we know Bud will fight, Bud will

484
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: not retreat, and basically in order for him to if

485
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: he feels that he's not gonna run, that's not in

486
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: his DNA. But you gotta be smart.

487
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 4: Yes, it's not a time for ego, it's not a

488
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: time for pride. It's about IQ ring, IQ, being smart,

489
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 4: engaging when necessary, setting traps, doing whatever you need to

490
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 4: do to fight smart, to win that fight by decision or.

491
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: Everybody got a punch a chance.

492
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you can get him out of

493
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: there with one punch, but I think he can put

494
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: punches together.

495
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, And it has to be something he

496
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 4: doesn't even realize it's coming.

497
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: No, And that's the thing that's what makes Bud dangerous.

498
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: It's been Bud Bud as a natural lefty, but he

499
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: has power in the right and so he can fight

500
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: out of the south fass stands. He can orthodot ye

501
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be very very interesting to see this

502
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: that Jim, you know, Jim said this, this would be

503
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: holy Field Tysons. Yeah, because you got two accomplished guys,

504
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: very accomplished. Leon Spinks when he beat Muhammad Ali, Spinks

505
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: wasn't accomplished. Now, he wasn't Olympic gold medalist. He wasn't

506
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: the seventy He and his brother along with Sugar Ray

507
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: and I think Davis wasn't a gold medal in seventy

508
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: six in Montreal. Uh, And so he hadn't had a

509
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: whole lot of fights when he beat Muhammad Aldi, So

510
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't accomplished. He wasn't a champion boxer like Canelo.

511
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: He wasn't a champion boxer like a Bud. Budd is

512
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: a two in the four butt era. He's the only

513
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: he's the first man to be undisputed in two weight classes.

514
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: And we know what Cannelo is. He's the undisputed super middleweight.

515
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: So we got two very accomplished fighters, but we got

516
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: a guy that moved up basically three weight classes. And

517
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: if he weren't to beat it, you.

518
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: Heard Tarver say, he's immediately calling him the ghat. No

519
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: matter what you.

520
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: Would have to I think it would be bigger than

521
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: holy Field Tyson for the simple fact holy Field didn't

522
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: move up. Holy Field was already fighting at the heavyweight division.

523
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: He had already fought ready both He had already fought

524
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: George Foreman, he had already fought guys at that heavy

525
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: Michael Moore, So he had already fought guys at that point.

526
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: Where got his first fight at one sixty eight? It's

527
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: against Canelo, is that boy?

528
00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: Boy?

529
00:24:59,720 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

530
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: He jumped, he pulled, vaulted one sixty.

531
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: He stopped at one sixty, right, he went to sixty

532
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: eight and basically just had one fight at fifty four

533
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: when he fought the best of his career at forty

534
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: seven or below. So this would be this would be huge,

535
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: This would be huge. And you know Roy Beanie Ruiz

536
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: I remember it. Yeah, but nobody thought Ruis as a

537
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: great heavy wall.

538
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't as decorated aither. No, but the fact that

539
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 4: Rud was able to go up to heavyweight and do it. Yeah,

540
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 4: And that's a guess.

541
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: Styles made fights.

542
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 4: Yes, Roy had the style and the skills to be

543
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: able to go to heavyweight and do just that, right.

544
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that Roy had to gain weight. Roy,

545
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean Roy was fighting at sixty eight, so you know,

546
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: to go up to make one ninety three that Roy

547
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: probably walks around probably walking around it probably.

548
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: Was eighty yeah back then.

549
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, supremely skilled. I mean Roy had elite defense. Roy

550
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: had skilled. Roy had that that left as his hands. Yeah, man, body,

551
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean Roy could do it all. Roy, Roy literally

552
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: could do it all. He had Mayweather skills, he had

553
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: elite defense, and he had power.

554
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: Crazy power.

555
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: What's up?

556
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: What's up to five? You skinny? Whether you shut that

557
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: when you hugged behind. But these hands here, man want.

558
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: Right there, right there, you're nervous. Handed you handed?

559
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chace, he nervous. It ain't enough. I don't mean nothing.

560
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: Rake Ward joined the show.

561
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: D it's been a long time since we had this

562
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: kind of buzz about a fire. Yeah, we we we

563
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: got buzz. We got a guy that's basically pulled all

564
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: the three weight classes to take on the Ultimate Challenge.

565
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: And I don't don't think we have enough of those

566
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: guys willing to take that challenge. Come on, come on, yeah, yeah,

567
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: come on right well no, yeah, so so man, you're good. Yeah,

568
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: you looking like you got to help his shit.

569
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: I said, that's that basketball man that ain't boxing. That

570
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: basketball is.

571
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: I just told it's been a while, Roy since we

572
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: had a fight that generate this kind of buzz. We

573
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: got a guy that basically polled at the three way classes.

574
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: He had one fight at fifty four, he polled aart

575
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: to sixty. He landed at sixty eight to fight the

576
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: take the Ultimate Challenge. And I was telling Drake, I

577
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: don't think we got enough of guys in this sport

578
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: that's willing to take the challenge because everybody wants to

579
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: keep this. They want to keep stay perfect, and everybody

580
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: wants to be Floyd Mayweather. I said, even if you're

581
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: in your career and you ain't got no losses, people

582
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: are not gonna look at you like they look at

583
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: Floyd maywellm So stop trying to be Floyd and take

584
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: on challenges like in the eighties when or Horsemen the

585
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: seven is the heavyweight. Fault everybody you didn't dunk, nobody

586
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: hag little fault heard in the heavyweight. I'll leave fought

587
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: for him and forman fault. JN.

588
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Go ahead and take that Roy, take that one. Take

589
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: what he said. What he's saying, he's saying a lot.

590
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 9: No what he's saying though, he's saying that what he's

591
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 9: saying about your boy, which one saying, ain't picking on

592
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 9: me to day.

593
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 6: Waiting that What he said is people.

594
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 10: Don't care enough no more about being the goat or

595
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 10: being the best.

596
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

597
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 10: You gotta think about it. Well, when you played football,

598
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 10: you didn't want no other top nights.

599
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Wibe.

600
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 10: See on the other side, you didn't want nobody else

601
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 10: top notchers and your your team in your position, you

602
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 10: want to be the man at that right when I

603
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 10: thought I didn't want nobody close to what I was

604
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 10: doing because I wanted to be the man. If I

605
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 10: thought somebody was away casts up or three way casts up,

606
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 10: I got to go see him.

607
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: I can't sleep him.

608
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 6: I don't go to see him.

609
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm not there though, But this is where we come from,

610
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: this time, this is our time.

611
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 10: We can't sleep at night if they think he can

612
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 10: whoop me, and he couldn't sleep at night if they

613
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 10: thought like I could whoop him. Understand, it's just not

614
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 10: what a champion truly is built out of. You know,

615
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 10: when I see Tarboro or that there, he just leve him.

616
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 10: He know, deep out of my hut.

617
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: He's still feeling way fighting in town right here.

618
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I love to death.

619
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: He's free. I love good people. But if they pay

620
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: me the right money, we gotta go. You feel me, Yeah,

621
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but that's just how it goes. Boxing

622
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: has lost that.

623
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 10: Because boxing has lost that, it's giving people an opportunity

624
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 10: to come in like Jake Paul steal the steam. Because

625
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 10: don't get make no mistake about it. The old man

626
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 10: told me this one time. Two mules are a great race,

627
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 10: meaning that if you got a race horse out there

628
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 10: that won't race another race horse. He gonna blow all

629
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 10: the mules up. Don't nobody want to see that. But

630
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 10: when you put that mule like that with another mule,

631
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 10: you finla get a good damn race. Wo that's what

632
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 10: boxing happened in it's time. We ain't got too mused.

633
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 10: We got two race boars, says two though friends that

634
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 10: about to get This is what the sport that's been missing.

635
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Nobody I had to go out with up to hip

636
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: what make happen right?

637
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 10: Because I couldn't get nobody in my r around my

638
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 10: time at my week classes to create that this happens.

639
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: They wanted you to go across the water fight cause.

640
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 6: He wasn't doing.

641
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't doing that. What am I gonna take

642
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: all my stuff? I'm the man used to come over

643
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: here while I'm going the great money come?

644
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: He said no.

645
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: So let's tell me.

646
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Y'all must say something. Y'all got want me to come

647
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: over there. Y'all gotta plan for me. I remember what

648
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: happened to me in eighty eight happen again.

649
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: Hey, go ahead. You understand the game of boxing a

650
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: little bit. You understand the.

651
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: Sweet science better than anybody that's gonna be watching.

652
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: What does Bud need to do to win this fight?

653
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: What type of fight does he need to fight to

654
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: win this That's.

655
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 9: Not an easy answer. So what I'm saying is he

656
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 9: got to do a lot of things right. So he

657
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 9: got to answer the strength question. When we bumped for

658
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 9: the first time, and we bumped shoulders and we clinch

659
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 9: each other, am I gonna be able to get my

660
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 9: respect there? Because if not, it's gonna be a hard

661
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 9: night when I punch. When when Terrence starts getting off offensively,

662
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 9: it's Canelo laughing? Or can he Does he feel something

663
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 9: at least enough where you got respectable power where I

664
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 9: can't get crazy and get reckless with you. When Canelo

665
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 9: hits Terrence for the first time, what's the response gonna be.

666
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 9: We got a lot more questions than we got answers

667
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 9: leading into this fight, and that's how you know it's

668
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 9: a great fight. If I looked at the landscape and

669
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 9: I said, man, from one fifty four to one sixty eight,

670
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 9: who's a name that could give Terres Crawford a run

671
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 9: for his money and potentially beat him?

672
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: It would be at Canelo Alvarez, right, he at the

673
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: top of the list.

674
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 9: But if I said, what's the smaller dude that can

675
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 9: come up to really three way classes since Fardero Spence

676
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 9: and challenge Canelo Alvarez, it would be Terrence Crawford. If

677
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 9: any smaller fighter can do it, it's him. And it

678
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 9: ain't just Terrence's physical ability or who he fought.

679
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Is this and it's this.

680
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 9: It's the stuff you can't see. I gotta wins, win

681
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 9: or die for me. I can't fathom losing against you

682
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 9: and having to live with that for the rest of

683
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 9: my That's the type of stuff that will make you

684
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 9: figure it out. So on one hand, you gotta lean

685
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 9: toward Crawford from the standpoint I think he's gonna find

686
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 9: a way to figure it out, right, But then you

687
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 9: got all the physical advantages and the skill set and

688
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 9: the power of Canelo Alvarez.

689
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: You we talked about this. You moved up from sixty

690
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: eight to go to one night to go heavyweight heavy

691
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: to fight Ruiz. You weigh one ninety three that at

692
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: the way in our twenty five pounds you put on

693
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: to go fight Ruiz. But Bud and I was talking

694
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: to Bargains Senior, and I was talking to somewhere else

695
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: a kayler plant. I say, Canelo, if he's stripping down

696
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: to go to one figure, Canello walking around it wasn't

697
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: notinety by maybe even two hundred because you Mexican carried

698
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: it weight. So and I said, Bud, Bud probably walking around,

699
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: Bud probably walking around with to go down to four

700
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So now he gets to stop at

701
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: sixty eight. But thinking Rob cardio, moving Rob's cardio, punching

702
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Rob's cardio.

703
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: Can he do for thirty six minutes?

704
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Can he stay mentally sharped, mentally focus, locked in and

705
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: put punches together to keep Vanelo off off it?

706
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 10: Like Dre said, if he can shock him enough to

707
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 10: make him pay attention to Nick, that would keep anybody.

708
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: That's how Floyd did it. Yeah, Floyd shocked him earlier and.

709
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 10: Kept got the respect right and kept eyeing outside of

710
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 10: the bit. If Bud can do that, then Canelo would

711
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 10: be in for a long light. If Bud can't do that,

712
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 10: then Budd is in for a long light. But like

713
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 10: he said, the only person that can beat both of

714
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 10: them right now and in this situation would be each other.

715
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Whoever can come out and get there is big early,

716
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna win the fuck.

717
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 10: Whoever come out and take over that first and second round,

718
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 10: it's gonna win the fuck because if.

719
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: Bud on her put Canelo in that box, gonna be

720
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: a problem left.

721
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me.

722
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Let me say this about about budd Man.

723
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 9: He for him to be successful in this fight and

724
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 9: win this fight, he gotta control himself so that I'm

725
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 9: gonna show you that alpha male, I'm always coming out

726
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 9: on top. You gotta you gotta reserve that until the

727
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 9: right time. So, in other words, you ain't gotta be

728
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 9: stronger than Canelo. You just gotta be strong enough. You

729
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 9: ain't gotta hit harder than Canelo. You just gotta hit

730
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 9: harder enough. And that's the discipline of saying, Okay, you

731
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 9: might not respect my power like you with a regular

732
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 9: sixty eight pounder, but you respect it enough. And he's

733
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 9: gotta stay within that. And I think the fight really

734
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 9: gonna start from the seventh round.

735
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: On Oh okay, the first six rounds, it could be

736
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: for to Canelo. Going into seven, it could be for

737
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: two Bud, could be three, three. That's when we're gonna.

738
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 9: Tap into conditioning. That's when we're gonna see how the

739
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 9: weight is affecting Bud. That's when we're gonna see. Is

740
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 9: Canelo gonna fade like we typically see him fad Yes,

741
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 9: from the seventh round on, that's when this fight gonna start.

742
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Because when you go back, you look at Canelo. The

743
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: only guy that he's ever fought that could put punches

744
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: together beat it, that's Mayweather. He's never fought anybody else

745
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: that can put punches together.

746
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: Like Lindy Laura, and that was that could have win

747
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: either way.

748
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: So if if if Bud you said something being interested,

749
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: you said, ego, but don't get reckless. You can be

750
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: an alpha reckless with it. Because you get reckless with it,

751
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: you're walking this up. And then he turned the lights

752
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: out of the place, yourself wide open. So the question is,

753
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: can Bud put two three, four punches together like that

754
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: got Canelo like, hold on, damn, I could just walk

755
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: up here. Hey they Hey, they not horned, but the

756
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: yellow jackets hurt.

757
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 9: He's gonna have to, Bud gonna have to. They're gonna

758
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 9: have to put it together early in spots, early on

759
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 9: ones and twos. That second third round in our twos

760
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 9: and threes got to test you out. Once we get

761
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 9: on that back half, now'all can stay there a little

762
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 9: bit longer.

763
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: Yatt, yat, yat.

764
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: See how you're doing.

765
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: It's a progression, it's not all at.

766
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: One time trying to fit down on everything.

767
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Of course, try to get you up out of the

768
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 2: supposed to be. He's a bigger man. If you don't

769
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: coming up with that.

770
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: Line set, you lost already.

771
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 9: But the thing we're not talking about with Canelo's Canelo

772
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 9: can box two ye defense. I called Canelo and Crawford

773
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 9: punch of boxes, not box of punches, meaning they really

774
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 9: want to.

775
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: Get to it. They can box, but they really don't

776
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: like to.

777
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 9: If you see Canelo moving around the ring, if you

778
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 9: see Terrence moving around the ring, it's either the rest

779
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 9: for a second or the reset. So they could do

780
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 9: what they really want to do, which is get that

781
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 9: shot in that's gonna change the course of the fight.

782
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 9: They punch your boxers. So I got to see that

783
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 9: on display. I want to see who's gonna control that.

784
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 9: But Canelo can box, he just don't have to and

785
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 9: he don't really like to.

786
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: But he can box.

787
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 10: He has the problem though you know both of them,

788
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 10: you know brought them it has been a lot of

789
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 10: time with Turk. You know, Turk paid both of them.

790
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 10: You know, Turk told him he don't.

791
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: Want no decision. I don't think they listening to that, huh.

792
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 9: I don't think they listening today, all right, because they

793
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 9: gonna get They're gonna get paid regardless.

794
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: All but he told him you don't want to yet,

795
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: you got a Turkey dot in the ring. I'm just

796
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: say anybody, everybody goes into the fight with a game plan.

797
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: I understand that you got to execute that game plan

798
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 4: and make adjustments round by round.

799
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: That's good to sell the problem. That's good to sell

800
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: the fight. It sounds good, were talking about it.

801
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: The problem.

802
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna have no barons on this fight. Got

803
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: a problem though.

804
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 10: If you go in there and let Canelo get that

805
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 10: real estate going this with early, you are lost. If

806
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 10: you go in the Canalo let Bud get that real

807
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 10: estate early, you already lost. So what Turk wants is inevitable.

808
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 10: It's basically he wants right now Tonight said Night's inevitable

809
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 10: because Bud can't give up room, and neither can't Canelo.

810
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 10: Whoever give up that.

811
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Real state lose that fight.

812
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, just what I think gonna. It's gonna force you

813
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: to fight no matter what.

814
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: So what he wants is inevitable. We got a guy

815
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: in Budd. It's very few Bud, It's a South Paul,

816
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: but boy he got power in that Orthodox both very few,

817
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: very few finals got can it can turn the lights

818
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: out of the building with either hand. We saw him

819
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: start with Spence, he's foul Paul, and then all of

820
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: a sudden he switch up like Smith left, Hello, who

821
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: is the mother guy in the ring? Fight? Got hit

822
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: me when he left? And now they gotta not to

823
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: tell me what the ring?

824
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: Which one do y'all?

825
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Hit me? Yeah?

826
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Which one?

827
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: Could that be a problem for Canelo? Let me take it?

828
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 10: Could have been a problem until in came Boots Innis,

829
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 10: who also does that.

830
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 6: You could take?

831
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: Now that's why he had him in camp that had.

832
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah Boots, Boots fight Unorthodox and South really good.

833
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 2: Yes, that makes sense.

834
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

835
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: I thought he was just getting ready for taking it dances.

836
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: I thought he was getting ready for his fight. He was,

837
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: but but he was helping Canelo to.

838
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: The mere fact. First of all, he understands what what

839
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Buddy in the four better earrow. He's the first man

840
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: to be undisfeuded in two weight classes. So you know,

841
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: first of all, it's a boxing match. That man got

842
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: an unblimous record. You got an unblimous record.

843
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: So you know the fact.

844
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: But Dannelo also understands this could this is people say,

845
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: well as accomplished, you get accomplished like Canelo under super middleweight.

846
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: We got a guy who's been undifuted in two weight classes.

847
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Now we could say Buster Douglas when he beat u

848
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: uh Mike Tyson, but Buster Douglas was not as accomplished

849
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: as a Canelo or Crawford Leon speaks when he beat

850
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali, he was not as accomplished. If we so

851
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: this right here with Bud, we do. I don't know,

852
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Roy dre y'all been around the sport. You did this sport,

853
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: your world champion. I don't know how high this go

854
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: if Bud were to do this, but it's gotta.

855
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: Be pretty damn here up there. Would that not take

856
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: him the greatest of all time, of all time? We can't.

857
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: We can't say that we can't the greatest of all time.

858
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: If he goes out there and beats Canelo at one

859
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: six eight going up to weight classes.

860
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: Listen, man, that is a great seat he up there. Yeah,

861
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: of all time. Okay, I don't even think Bud.

862
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 6: Would say that.

863
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, we're.

864
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 9: Talking past Robinson, we're talking past our lead. Okay, you're right,

865
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 9: you gotta be careful with that, right I'm speaking of.

866
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 9: I'm speaking of the essence of the time. We're now

867
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 9: where we can't even get fighters this here here we talking.

868
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: We can't even get.

869
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: Here already, we can't we can't even get our best

870
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: fighters to fight each other right now, and we got

871
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: Bud taking a chance.

872
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: I wonder why going up feeling a way about that?

873
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: About that? Let me let me go back. But now

874
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: it ain't just it ain't just the odo.

875
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 9: Let me let me go back to the conversation about

876
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 9: why the fight's not happening. If you got a big

877
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 9: enough fan base, you got a big enough social following,

878
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 9: why would I risk And I'm saying this is what

879
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 9: I believe the youngsters are thinking, why would I risk

880
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 9: my health and my reputation? Because really, the reputation, I

881
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 9: think they're thinking about that more than they thinking about

882
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 9: their health. As long as my fan base feels like

883
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 9: I'm him. Why would I have to risk proving that

884
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 9: I'm him?

885
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: Wait, the fan base ain't cutting the chat.

886
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 9: I got you, but some of them still getting the

887
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 9: money with I'm fake facing top competition. So let me

888
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 9: tell you how the youngsters thinking. They looking at the

889
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 9: old heads now saying, y'all was stupid. You fought you

890
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 9: fought him, You fought him for that. They looking at

891
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 9: facing tough challenges like they laughing at it, like dude,

892
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 9: I got this to face him. The whole dynamic is changed,

893
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 9: a whole PARADIWM ship. As long as my fan base

894
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 9: says I'm the guy and I can walk around like

895
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 9: the guy and feel like the guy, that's enough for me.

896
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 9: All that proven to be great and legacy stuff. Ain't

897
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 9: nobody trying to hear all that. That's what that's rather

898
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 9: we like it or not. That's how they think.

899
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe one hundred percent what you say.

900
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: But when it's done and them people don't give them credit,

901
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: they wonder why, they wonder why they still hold Sugar

902
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Ray Leonard and these great fighters and de Roy Jones

903
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: and all these other fighters in high regard because they

904
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: fought everybody. You go back and look at the age

905
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: when they had the poor horsemen, the philth Horsman, When

906
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: I ran Barkley, they fought everybody. You go back and

907
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: look at the seventy then the heavyweight division. Nobody, don't nobody. Now, Bro,

908
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: you undefeated. It's like if I go to a I'm

909
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: going to a game, tickets for sale. I want to

910
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: buy tickets with by the ticket here, sell them. Yeah,

911
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: you undefeated? You you want to fight the man undefeated.

912
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: With don't fight the game different, it's a different you

913
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 4: know what, even though it's a different game right now,

914
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: right and and Drake, I think with Turkey being into

915
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: the game now, I think more fighters that are really good,

916
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: that have those zeros that had the skill set make

917
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 4: it because I'm willing to take the risk for the

918
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: reward that he pays.

919
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: To big reward.

920
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 9: And I do appreciate that about Turkey. You could say

921
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 9: what you want to say, he's paying them. Yes, it's

922
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 9: so many times fighters had high risk, low reward. You

923
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 9: look at the money, it's like y'all chopping that up

924
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 9: five different ways. This is this is what he brought

925
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 9: home after y'all got y'all money and he fought a

926
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 9: twelve round back that man in the hospital.

927
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Right now, that's what y'all give me, fifteen to twelve.

928
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 9: It's different now, So I appreciate that man saying, look,

929
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 9: I want the best fights, but I'm gonna.

930
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: Pay you because of it. That's all we ask it.

931
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: That's all get your money because it is prize fighting.

932
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: It's not pride fighting. Ye, my babies can't eat legacy.

933
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: The legacy is for me in my name.

934
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 9: I can't live with myself unless I knew I didn't

935
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 9: tested the waters and seeing if I was the best

936
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 9: as man. That's for me and my name, but really,

937
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 9: my kids, I gotta make sure this's money.

938
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: Right, right. But I think that's why kind of UFC

939
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: is kind of taken over because they't why they're gonna

940
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: let nobody up and.

941
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: They can't choose this who you're gonna fight. So you okay,

942
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: you got the belt.

943
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, if you fight the number one contender, okay, you

944
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: gotta well you just beat the number one, where you

945
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: fight number two? Well, okay, that's what four and five,

946
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: y'all gonna fight this. See who's fight number one? To

947
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: see the tree, who's gonna fight for the.

948
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 10: Title, and that's why they try to get him involved

949
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 10: with boxing too.

950
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: But think that's the that's the key. The blueprint fixed

951
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 2: that problem.

952
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, as the blueprint, Yes, but but Roy, you wanted

953
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: to fight, you fought James, Tony whoever, whoever, if you

954
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: had first of all, if you want you won sixty eight.

955
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: You can't have no belt in my era. You are paying,

956
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: you paying.

957
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: Hey, we're suspenders, but you're not finna have a belt

958
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna get it, not at all, not at all.

959
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: And and and for the challenges for you to say,

960
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: you know what, I got to go on up here

961
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: and you didn't. You you skipped because a lot of

962
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: people and say Okay, I'm gonna be a light heavy

963
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: and then I'll go.

964
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: For Heaby you you joked over that, and they came

965
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: back down again over Cruiser.

966
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 10: Yes, but I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this

967
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 10: part to what he said. I understand what he's saying.

968
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 10: Legacy can't feed your kids right, currency does true. But

969
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 10: the problem with the part they mixing missing is that

970
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 10: if I got a fan base of fans in the

971
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 10: United States and they love me to death, and I

972
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 10: stay protected and I don't do nothing when I retire.

973
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: What happened when I go abroad.

974
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 10: When I go abroad right now, because I thought in it,

975
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 10: everybody came my way. I am like Michael Jordan's abroad

976
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 10: because they know what I what I did, they.

977
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: Know what I went through.

978
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: This man just brought me a.

979
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 10: Gold medal back home not long ago because of him

980
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 10: way back then and the nineteen eighty eight. They know

981
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 10: my presence, they know what I mean, they know what

982
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 10: I stood for. So it's like not that fan base

983
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 10: here in the United States. I do have a good

984
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 10: based in Nastas. I love them, I appreciate it. But

985
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 10: I'm not here the fool of fan bases. I'm here

986
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 10: to pool the truth. I am the best of my

987
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 10: time in my era. Nobody here this dispissed that understand me.

988
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 10: So to be able to say, oh, I can make

989
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 10: my money with my fan base, and nah, brother, don't

990
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 10: get it for me.

991
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm old school sorr. I do no change. I respect that.

992
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: I respect what they do.

993
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 10: That's why God created me in nineteen sixty nine.

994
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: So I have a look at this city.

995
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: But here is the thing. I couldn't play the sport

996
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: of football. They worried about getting hurt. Understand you in

997
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: the box, and here talking about, well, I might get

998
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: hurt you you in the fight game. If you fight,

999
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't care how great you are.

1000
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: You gonna get hit. You're gonna get hit.

1001
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: Something's gonna and it's gonna it's gonna impact you. And

1002
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: these guys, don't you talk. A legacy is not undefeated.

1003
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: A legacy is who did you fight to become what

1004
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: you became. Yeah, some if we can, we can break

1005
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: it down. But like Michael Lerman said, Michael Lewis said,

1006
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: guess what I went through, girl, Darryl Green, Rod Woodson,

1007
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson. I went through Niels William and Deon Sanders

1008
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: to get my gold jacket. I went through gold jackets

1009
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: in the plank. You heard me.

1010
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: Now they got god.

1011
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Talk about I'm undefeated in the.

1012
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 7: State defeated.

1013
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: I ain't talking about Floyd Floyd. I can't get that

1014
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: tell about we ain't gonna do ain't gonna do that today.

1015
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we ain't gonna do that to saying yeah, Florida,

1016
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Floyd Floyd did Floyd him right now, he fight.

1017
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: TES ain't tell my ham right now I'll fight right

1018
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: Tyson too.

1019
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, we gotta wrap it up. We got we got,

1020
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: we got the big, we got the one of the

1021
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: boss was coming there. Hey Roy, Hey, appreciate your man,

1022
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: brother any time.

1023
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Hey go, he's on it, man man, deal

1024
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: with your guy. That dude my name Tom Brown, put

1025
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: his heads on you. Yeah, alright, brother, No, when when

1026
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: you're ready, We've been ready. We've been ready since one thirty.

1027
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: But I added to this sweater too. I didn't even

1028
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: know it.

1029
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: Whenever, whenever, whenever you're ready, it's two thirty one.

1030
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 9: Huh.

1031
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: I get right up him. Then I can come your

1032
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: last one.

1033
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Dana lat dang.

1034
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: No, I want to fucking fight. We got one of

1035
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: the uh promoters of the fight getting ready to join

1036
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: us right now. We got the big, the Big CEO

1037
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: runs everything, all things UFC. He's the face of the UFC.

1038
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: He's getting ready to join us on stage day the.

1039
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: White Hey chat, who y'all want to see me fighting

1040
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: the UFC?

1041
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Do you think Debo?

1042
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

1043
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 4: Chat is going down. Dana White and Turkey are gonna

1044
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: sponsor me and Deebo.

1045
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: Baby, you're good.

1046
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: Everything good to see you. Bab check you Danny. You

1047
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: got it, don't You got the biggest fight in a

1048
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: very very very long time. I mean it might be

1049
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: the biggest fight in PACKI y'all Mayweather, you got Canello,

1050
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: the undisputed super middleweight champ. You got Bud Crawford, the

1051
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: first man to be in the full bet era to

1052
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: be a two time undisputed champ. And they'll fighting. Somebody's

1053
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna leave. Crawford saying he leaving with like eight nine,

1054
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: Bilo says, Nah, I'm leaving with my legacy. Seemn it

1055
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: that I've taken on all comers that I didn't back

1056
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: down from anybody.

1057
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 8: How did this fight come come to come to be? Well,

1058
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 8: let's start with this. This is what makes us such

1059
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 8: a great fight for fighting about. You know what I

1060
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 8: always have said and feel is that to have a

1061
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 8: great fight, what's at stake?

1062
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 6: What's his stake?

1063
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 8: It's it's no different than the super Bowl or any

1064
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 8: of these bad, big sporting events.

1065
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 6: What's his steak?

1066
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 8: And when you have a guy like Crawford who could say,

1067
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 8: who could stay in his lane go down as the

1068
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 8: greatest in his division, and you know, uh, fight fights

1069
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 8: said that he's gonna win because he's that talented, not

1070
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 8: because he's uh taking on easy uh opponents, but to

1071
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 8: move up two weight classes, to want to prove himself

1072
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 8: and for Canelo to accept and get to fight. This

1073
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 8: is this is what we all dream of as fight fans.

1074
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 8: So that's why I called this once in a lifetime

1075
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 8: fight because literally nobody does this. And how it came

1076
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 8: about was Shake Turkey, you know from Saudi Arabia, put

1077
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 8: this fight together, then hit me up and said I

1078
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 8: want you to be the promoter of this event, and

1079
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 8: uh said, okay, cut data.

1080
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Look what you do in the UFC, and this is

1081
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: what we want in the UFC. You don't allow somebody

1082
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: up with to try to hand pick and cherry pete. Guys, right,

1083
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: you the Beth. You're gonna fight the best. If you

1084
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: the number one contender, and you got to build you

1085
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: fighting the number one contender, You're not fighting number ten contender.

1086
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna duck and die and try to build

1087
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: your bank account up and fear your guys.

1088
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 8: If you say you the beath fight the beast, well,

1089
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 8: what I hate is debate. I hate debate. You have

1090
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 8: everybody debating over her who this guy, that guy. There's

1091
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 8: only one way to find out. It's like, like we

1092
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 8: can we can argue, you can get all the experts,

1093
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 8: you can break down the stats, you can do all this.

1094
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: And all the answers.

1095
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 8: You know, all the questions will be answered on Saturday

1096
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 8: in the ring or the octagon.

1097
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: We can prove who's the best. And now we get

1098
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: an opportunity to.

1099
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 8: Say, well, here's the thing about boxing two that drives

1100
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 8: me crazy. Like everybody's undefeated right now in the UFC.

1101
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 8: If you're undefeated, like John Jones. Say what you want

1102
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 8: about John Jones. He's been undefeated his entire career. He's

1103
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 8: fought everybody, and that means something. It means something when

1104
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 8: you're undefeated.

1105
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: But even though, but in the UFC, Dana, even if

1106
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: a guy has one loss, you don't disgard it. It

1107
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: seemed like now we're boxing, if you have one loft,

1108
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: you're not any good. Adasnya has a loft, Piana has

1109
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: a lost. Guys have losses. If Sugar Ray hand losses,

1110
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Muhammad had losses, every boxer why did they have losses?

1111
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Because they thought they fought the best. Her herds fought

1112
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: Sugar Rain Sugar Rain fought the Rain, They fought Barkley's

1113
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: absolutely right, the heavyweight all round Robin and the baddest

1114
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: dudes of all time.

1115
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: And it was it was.

1116
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 8: It's why the sport was so big and why so

1117
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 8: many people loved it, and why these guys today are

1118
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 8: able to make money off it was because those guys

1119
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 8: fought everybody.

1120
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 4: But then the funny thing about it is time to change. Yes,

1121
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 4: time to change, especially to support of boxing. The fighters

1122
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: that they don't want to take a loss because it

1123
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: messes up being the a side, It messes up being

1124
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: a command a certain amount for your purse. It messes

1125
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 4: up being able to pick and choose who you want

1126
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 4: to fight and when you want to fight them.

1127
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 6: Yep, I agree.

1128
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: It's all to come down to.

1129
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 8: What you've seen is, you know, people have been talking

1130
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 8: about the devise of boxing for over thirty years. But

1131
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 8: what you have seen is there's no television deal right

1132
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 8: now for boxing out there. You know, some streaming services

1133
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 8: that are picking up, you know, picking them here and

1134
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 8: there and all this stuff. It doesn't work. You can't

1135
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 8: build think. Tell me, tell me a business in the

1136
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 8: history of the world or a sport that has generated

1137
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 8: trillions of dollars in revenue, Yet at the end of

1138
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 8: the day, there's nothing in you so for it, and

1139
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 8: and all these fights feel like going out of business.

1140
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 6: Sou you know what I mean?

1141
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Dan, When you and I were growing up, great Championship

1142
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: fight used to be on regular television. You can watch

1143
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: the fight on CBS. I remember with Gil Clan said,

1144
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: all those gus you could like to see great.

1145
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 8: ABC's wide world of sports in the USA is Tuesday

1146
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 8: night fights is where they built all the stars.

1147
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: They're absolutely right. All Lee could have never said he

1148
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: the greatest. If you the duve Foreman, if you the

1149
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Duck Fraser, if you the Duck Ken Norton, even Dr

1150
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Erdie Shaver, if you the Duck can't Ron Love, You

1151
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: can't say that. You can't say in an arrow with

1152
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: all those great fighters out and you don't fight none of.

1153
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 2: Them, and you the greatest, how do you get to

1154
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: say that?

1155
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: No, Floyd is Floyd? And I think what has happened

1156
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: is that everybody sees Floyd and they see that perfect

1157
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: fifty and oh, they say forty. Oh. If I'm forty

1158
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: five and oh, I'd be the equivalent. No, you're not

1159
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: Floyd is a transcendent. He's a once a lifetime fighter.

1160
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: No matter what, you stop trying to be him. There's

1161
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: only one Floyd Mayweather Junior. You should try to be

1162
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: the first version of you and then let us have

1163
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: that whatever. But you gotta you gotta fight them.

1164
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 6: I agree.

1165
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 8: If you look at this undercart on Saturday night, all

1166
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 8: young up and coming guys that are undefeated, all fighting

1167
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 8: each other. So this will be the first boxing match

1168
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 8: in a long time where I'm telling you right now

1169
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 8: you want to be there for the first fight of

1170
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 8: the night, whether you're in the arena or watching it

1171
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 8: live on television, all of these fights on the on

1172
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 8: the on this cart are gonna be awesome.

1173
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: Is this is boxing something that you want to get

1174
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: and buy? I know, Turkey, you said, Ali called you

1175
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: and said I want you to promote it. Is this

1176
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: something that you're trying to dip your toe into. Is

1177
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: this something that you're gonna get.

1178
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: Into in twenty six I'm launching my thing in twenty six.

1179
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: Yes, So so we know how you did the I

1180
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: mean you and the Petitas, y'all purchased something in the

1181
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: early two thousand or two million, and you turn it

1182
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: into a five billion dollar business box office. Is that

1183
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: what your hope he is for boxing? Are you trying

1184
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: to get boxing back to what it once was? And

1185
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: can it be that? Well?

1186
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 8: I don't even I'm not coming in with an arrogance that, oh,

1187
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna come in and fix boxing and I'm gonna

1188
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 8: do everything different. My game plan is pretty clear and simple.

1189
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 8: The best open coming guys is gonna fight each other.

1190
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 8: And then once you get so, once you get to

1191
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 8: you know, you got all these sanctioning organizations that are

1192
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 8: ranking all these different guys. When the best fight the

1193
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 8: best all the time, there's no question when you get

1194
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 8: up into the top five, who the best guys in

1195
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 8: the world are. It's the top five guys in the division?

1196
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: Is that what you think? You think? They got too many?

1197
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: They got the WBO, they got the IVF, the WBC

1198
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: to WBA, they got Ring Magazine. Do they have too many? Says?

1199
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 6: The sanctioning organizations are what part of what killed boxing.

1200
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 6: There's no doubt about it.

1201
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: That's it.

1202
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: Listen, I have two fights coming up. I would like

1203
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 4: you to promote my fights. Go you and Turkey.

1204
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 6: Where are your fights?

1205
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: He wanted he want an mm A, yes, debo James.

1206
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: James Harrison UFC.

1207
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 6: You're gonna promote it.

1208
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna put me on the card, and then I

1209
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 4: want to do a boxing When you get into boxing

1210
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, I'm gonna beat the ship out

1211
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 4: of andre Ward.

1212
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: So I'm serious.

1213
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: Then I need to I've never.

1214
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: Listened to how do you want to do this?

1215
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 8: You've got an amazing career, yeah, yea yeah yeah, and

1216
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 8: now you got a successful podcast. Yeah, very very okay.

1217
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 8: So so because you know fifty seven, you're fifty seven, Yeah,

1218
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 8: I look fucking great. You don't look good.

1219
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 2: You're great and fight fighting all my life.

1220
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 6: Well, fifty seven is too old to be fighting.

1221
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

1222
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: It is not for me.

1223
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 6: Fifty seven year olds fight to get out of bed

1224
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 6: and get on a treadmill every day.

1225
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: Dan, you have to do me this one favor. Please.

1226
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 4: I want to fight James Harrison in the octagon, five rounds,

1227
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: five minutes.

1228
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 6: James Harrison, the NFL player. Y, yeah.

1229
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: He takes you talk to my trash. I need you

1230
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: to set that up. I need you to back meet

1231
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 2: tail Turkey do monster.

1232
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 6: He's what he's a monster.

1233
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: Did you see the story of David Golia I have Okay,

1234
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: well that's what exactly what it's gonna look like.

1235
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: Is that a real story or is that a myth?

1236
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 6: It might be a myth. I think that's a myth.

1237
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 6: How old's he? How James do you think?

1238
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: Uh? Should be probably about ten eleven years younger, probably

1239
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: about forty six, forty five. I'm forty seven. I'm only

1240
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: forty seven.

1241
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 8: Oh okay, now now you agree to the fight. No,

1242
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 8: that's still too old, but it's better than fifty seven.

1243
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 8: Just say yes, please, just say I can't say yes.

1244
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: We'll talk.

1245
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 6: I'll sell tell you this, we'll talk about it.

1246
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chad, I'm gonna beat his name.

1247
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 6: We'll talk about it.

1248
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: You see it?

1249
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Is that what's happened to boxing? You see a lot

1250
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: of guys boxing seemed to be headed towards the exhibitions.

1251
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: You got Jake Paul gonna fight Tank Davis, You got

1252
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: Tyson is gonna fight of Floyd?

1253
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 6: Is is that what we are with boxing?

1254
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: Well?

1255
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 8: You know, I think that those type of fights are

1256
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 8: always going to exist. People are always going to be

1257
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 8: interested in will O Cho Sinko fight Harrison Will Will

1258
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 8: you know YouTube guy fight this guy, and these type

1259
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 8: of fights, they're always gonna exist, it's gonna happen, and

1260
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 8: it's always gonna peak the interest of people that want

1261
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 8: to see what will happen.

1262
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 6: But it's just it's just not what I'm into. I'm

1263
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 6: I'm into.

1264
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 8: Who's the best in the world, Who who's the best

1265
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 8: in every weight class, Who's the pound for pound best.

1266
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 8: That's my thing and that's what I'll always do. I'm

1267
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 8: not saying I wouldn't do an Ocho Cinco.

1268
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 6: Versus Harrison, but.

1269
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: It would it money to be made.

1270
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 6: It would be Uh, I don't know.

1271
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1272
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 6: You know, I never say never, But it's not what

1273
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 6: I'm into.

1274
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1275
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: There's a rumor floating around. I don't know if there's

1276
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: any truth that you but I think in twenty six

1277
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: a UFC event is gonna be gonna take place at

1278
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: the White House.

1279
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 6: That is absolutely true. Are they gonna allow fans.

1280
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 8: You're gonna have fans like there's gonna be under so

1281
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 8: under five thousand people will be on the south lawn

1282
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 8: of the White House at the actual and then right

1283
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 8: next to the White House is a massive park. We'll

1284
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 8: have eighty five thousand people there watching on screens and yeah,

1285
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 8: and we're gonna have a stage and you know, do concerts,

1286
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 8: and we're gonna basically take over Washington, d C.

1287
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 6: For a week.

1288
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: So you mentioned that. Okay, so the wigh in, everything

1289
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: that would normally happen at say Allegiance or the T

1290
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: Mobile is going to take place at the White House.

1291
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 8: Well, at certain monuments, yeah, you know the Lincoln Monument,

1292
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 8: we might do the weigh ins, you know. Yeah, we're

1293
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 8: gonna take over the whole city and then the fight

1294
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 8: will happen on the south lawn of the White House.

1295
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Boy who had no secret services, Dana, you could have said, no,

1296
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: it made it real easy on us because you don't

1297
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: understand what the protection that we're gonna have to go

1298
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: through to make sure this thing is locked down.

1299
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: This is gonna be fort knots.

1300
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 8: So you know, it's probably the most badass thing about

1301
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 8: obviously everything about is the fighters will actually walk from

1302
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 8: the Oval Office into the into the octagon.

1303
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: But I got to be so.

1304
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 6: Badass's I was at the event that you had it.

1305
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: The spear and I don't know if you saw it

1306
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: on that if you saw it on TV, it was great,

1307
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: But if you were there in person, it was on

1308
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: another level. And I remember having a conversation with you

1309
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: when we sign down with an interview and said, yeah,

1310
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: we gonna do something at the sphere with you did

1311
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: the spear? How soon did you start like the White

1312
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: House would be bad? I would love to take credit

1313
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: for it. The President was the one that asked me.

1314
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: He said, I think we should.

1315
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Speaker 6: He has this whole.

1316
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 8: I don't know if you'll ever meet anybody that loves

1317
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 8: the White House more than President Tad Right, He's so

1318
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 8: proud of that place, and and and his philosophy is

1319
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 8: this house belongs to the people, right, it belongs to

1320
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 8: all the Americans. And he wants to open up stuff

1321
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 8: like you know, kids go on Easter go uh you know,

1322
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 8: egg hunting at the White and and and having been

1323
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 8: events that get Americans in to experience and enjoy the

1324
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 8: White House.

1325
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 6: That's his thing. So you know, one of them is

1326
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 6: we should do a fight.

1327
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 8: You know, he's just set it off the cuff one

1328
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 8: day and I said say when, And he said, when

1329
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 8: we put together all the renderings and all the you know,

1330
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 8: how it would work. And we flew out and and

1331
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 8: my team got to pitch him in the Oval office

1332
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 8: and and with all the renderings, and he was blown

1333
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 8: away by it.

1334
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 6: And it's happening. We're doing it.

1335
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: Have you just because look, you probably won't get a

1336
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: bit of venue in the history of UFC.

1337
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: Have you thought about who's going to be on that car?

1338
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 8: So so we won't we won't start really looking at

1339
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 8: who's on the card till like February.

1340
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so in February we will start making the card.

1341
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I was having a conversation with DC.

1342
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, he says. He says, Shannon,

1343
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: I know what Dana saying. But if you want some Americans,

1344
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: unless unless he wants far in European to take over

1345
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: the White House and win every match, he better put

1346
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: John Jones on that car.

1347
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 8: Ye know, Well, that's that's that's pretty big of Cormia.

1348
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 8: I'm proud of him, man, I'm proud of him.

1349
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: He said, we can't. We gotta get one win, he said,

1350
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: because I don't know any Americans they can get a

1351
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: win at the White House other than John Jones. I said,

1352
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: what about John Jones and Aspinall? I said, would you

1353
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: think data would consider that He's like, hell yeah, Like, well.

1354
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 8: One of the things with me is unlike tennis and

1355
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 8: basketball and all these other things, that my sport is

1356
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 8: a global sport. Yeah, and there's guys from all over

1357
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 8: the world that are talented. I don't we can't lose

1358
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 8: at the White House. It's a global sport. But that's

1359
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 8: a little Americans.

1360
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 6: All down fighting.

1361
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: Man.

1362
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 8: You can't you know, you can't determine win. That's why

1363
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 8: they're fighting. That's exactly right. So whoever we bring in

1364
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 8: on that card, I'm not looking for America versus you know,

1365
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 8: in every American to win. Whoever wins wins.

1366
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: I like it. You just did this new deal, I

1367
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: mean a monumental deal. I mean you were you were.

1368
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean in the beginning you paid to be on

1369
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: Fight TV, right, and then you get this deal with

1370
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: a Fox, and then you go to ESPN and now

1371
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: you with CBS and Paramount and billions of dollars data.

1372
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: When you when when you and the Fatida sat down,

1373
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: it's like, I think, this is this is business there

1374
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: that we can buy a little of nothing. Did you

1375
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: ever envision it would be this?

1376
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 8: Well, if you watch interviews with me early on, I

1377
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 8: said this will be the biggest sport in the world.

1378
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 8: And and I always knew that this would work. I

1379
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 8: have I have this philosophy that I don't care what

1380
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 8: color you are, what cuntry you come from, what language

1381
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 8: you speak. We're all human beings and fightings in our DNA.

1382
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 8: Man wet it and we like it. I got football

1383
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 8: players that want to fight. We got like I mean,

1384
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 8: it's crazy, but yes, I believe.

1385
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 6: But you don't.

1386
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 8: You don't imagine a level where we're talking about correct

1387
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 8: fighting at the White House and a lot of the

1388
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 8: other things that we've done and accomplished.

1389
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 6: But but yeah, I always thought this would be big.

1390
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you go for paying ten millions to get

1391
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: on TV to somebody paying you billions of billions. But

1392
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: now you said, if i'm if I, if I read

1393
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: this correctly, there's no more pay per of you correct right.

1394
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 6: Well, we had guys early on.

1395
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 8: First of all, we were the redheaded stepchild of the

1396
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 8: Fertita portfolio back in the day. Let me tell you

1397
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 8: what and now, and all these smart guys that work

1398
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 8: for him that hated this thing and said it's never

1399
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 8: gonna work. And then you know, the big thing was

1400
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 8: you guys if you pay your way on to TV,

1401
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 8: how do you think there's ever going to be a

1402
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 8: day where somebody's going to come to you and say, okay,

1403
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 8: we'll pay you now. But me and the Fertitas truly

1404
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 8: believed that once we introduced this to the mainstream that

1405
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 8: they would love it as much as we did and

1406
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 8: saw what we saw in it, and that did happen.

1407
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: But you had to do a lot, Dana. You had

1408
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: to get weight classes because in the original stages there

1409
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: was no weight classes, and guys fault. I was at

1410
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: the first win in Denver, Colorado in nineteen ninety three,

1411
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: and guys fault. So you would fight, you win, you

1412
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: move on, you fight a game when you move over.

1413
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 8: Or we had to get rid of the tournament style

1414
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 8: because because it's not true that the best actually win,

1415
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 8: because too many people get hurt during the night. And

1416
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 8: now the level of fighters, I mean, these guys get

1417
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 8: banged up, they're not ready again for you know, they're

1418
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 8: not even moving again for two and a half weeks

1419
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 8: after some of these fights. But one of the things

1420
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 8: that I really had to do early on it was this.

1421
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 8: I flew to la yesterday and was doing some pr

1422
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 8: out there, and I did some radio. So in the beginning,

1423
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 8: I flew all around the country and I was speaking

1424
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 8: with you know, remember this, when we bought this thing,

1425
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 8: newspapers were still around, right, Newspapers was how everybody got

1426
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 8: their news. So I had to fly around and meet

1427
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 8: with these sixty five year old editors explaining the UFC

1428
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 8: and why it was gonna be. And all these guys

1429
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 8: cared about was ball and stick sports. So not only

1430
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 8: did we buy our way onto television, nobody would cover us,

1431
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 8: so we bought our way onto radio. Right now, radio

1432
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 8: was massive then and you had to be good radio. Well,

1433
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 8: we'd have these fighters waking up at six in the

1434
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 8: morning or three four in the morning getting dropped into

1435
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 8: the East coast. Yeah, right, and these guys be like, oh,

1436
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 8: you know, they were terrible radios. So none of the

1437
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 8: radio wanted to talk to any of the fighters. So

1438
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 8: every pay per view we would switch. I would get

1439
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 8: up at three thirty in the morning and do a

1440
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 8: whole radio satellite tour. Then the next one, Joe Rogan

1441
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 8: would get up at three thirty in the morning and

1442
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 8: do a fullse you know, because we both loved the sport.

1443
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 8: We were both passionate about it and we both could

1444
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 8: talk about it, and that was how we really got

1445
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 8: started too. I mean, there's so many different pieces to

1446
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 8: this puzzle on getting this business to where we are today.

1447
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 8: And radio was just as big as buying our way

1448
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 8: onto Spike TV.

1449
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: So get Congress approval because a lot of states you

1450
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: couldn't you couldn't you couldn't participate in it, and so

1451
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: you had to go before Congress and you had to

1452
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: get legislation. And now, if I'm not mistaken, you'll think

1453
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: you was.

1454
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 8: Sanctioned and all the and a couple of the states, Uh,

1455
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 8: it was actually illegal. So not only do we have

1456
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 8: to get regulated and and and and be a part

1457
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 8: of the their state athletic commission, we had to undo

1458
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 8: like some laws like.

1459
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 6: It was illegal.

1460
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it was.

1461
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 8: It's been a lot of work to see. It's fun

1462
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 8: to say, oh, they bought it for two million and

1463
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 8: now it's worth you know, they instead a seven billion

1464
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 8: dollars or eight billion dollar deal. You were telling me,

1465
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 8: there's been a lot of work to get to where

1466
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 8: we are today.

1467
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: All the things that you've done, is that and all

1468
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: the things that because you're and I don't think. I

1469
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: don't think you're done. I don't think I don't know

1470
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: what you would actually do. Wait till you see what

1471
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: we do in the next three years.

1472
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 8: Just every time people think that, you know, all for instance,

1473
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 8: when we sold for four point zero two five billion, right, yeah,

1474
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 8: everybody said, you know, they overpay like this, things that

1475
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 8: beyond the peak, blah blahlah. I love the negativity and

1476
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 8: I love that talk. And if you look at where

1477
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 8: we are now and what we've accomplished, wait to see

1478
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 8: what we do in the next couple of years.

1479
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: Wow, I can't I can't wait. I don't How much

1480
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: longer is Dana White gonna be gonna be captain in

1481
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: this ship? I can't imagine you doing anything else. You so,

1482
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you pop out of bed because this is

1483
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: not work for you. You look forward to wake it

1484
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: up in the morning. Lord, please let me put my

1485
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: feet on the floor and let me go do my

1486
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: job in the morning. How much longer does Dana White? What?

1487
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 8: So it's funny when when got out of you, I'm

1488
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 8: fifty seven, all right, So when guys it might be

1489
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 8: the same for him. But when guys like you and

1490
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 8: I were growing up, right, you always had the older

1491
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 8: generation talking about I'm gonna retire and I'm gonna be

1492
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 8: drinking you know, pinacle Oudas on the beach and all

1493
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 8: this shit right, go away for ten days? How many

1494
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 8: pinacle Oders can you drink? And and I'll be on

1495
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 8: these great vacations that are unbelievable. YEA, after day seven,

1496
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 8: I'm like, if I have to put suntan lotion on

1497
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 8: my body one more time, and if I drink one

1498
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 8: more of these drinks, and if I eat another crappy meal,

1499
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna I can't wait to get back to work, right.

1500
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 8: It was all an illusion for those poor guys, you know.

1501
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: And you have to do you do? Tell me about

1502
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: ten days?

1503
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: You think I'm gonna do this for the next thirty years?

1504
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 8: No way in hell, I listen, whoever is gonna take

1505
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 8: this over after me, I'm gonna have to die for

1506
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 8: them to come in.

1507
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: And you know what I had. I had a teacher

1508
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: that did that. He was a teacher for like forty years.

1509
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: He retired a week later.

1510
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 6: Yep. I hear those stories all the time too, and

1511
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 6: I get it, yes, because it does.

1512
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: Next.

1513
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 8: What are you gonna do nothing, especially when you do

1514
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 8: things at the level that we've done them right, But

1515
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 8: you about what you've done and what it must have

1516
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 8: been like for you guys to run out of that

1517
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,919
Speaker 8: tunnel on game day and go out and just destroy

1518
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 8: the team and win and all the stuff that goes

1519
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 8: along with it. Who the hell wants to walk away

1520
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 8: from that? Nobody know what he does. That's the answer

1521
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 8: to that question.

1522
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: Well, you definitely have the best job of the house. Ladies, gentlemen,

1523
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, Dana, Thanks for having regulations

1524
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: man a. Hopefully this thing is as big Saturday Night

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: as the build up to it, and if we get

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Speaker 1: anything close to what we think is gonna be, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: Here's what I can promise you when I say this

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Speaker 8: all the time, I'm the bells and whistles guy. I

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Speaker 8: will put on the greatest bells and whistles you've ever

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Speaker 8: seen Saturday Night, whether they're live or watching on TV.

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Speaker 8: And then I hand the baton off to the fighters

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Speaker 8: and they got to go into the Dana. Thanks for

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Speaker 8: joining us, all right, Thanks for having me all right, guys,

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Speaker 8: thank you for joining us. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We want to thank all the guests that stop by

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Speaker 1: andre Ward, Roy Jones, you you're Dana White, Fernando Vargas

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Speaker 1: Junior and Senior. Stopped by Antonio Tarboro, Caleb Plant and

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Speaker 1: Jim Gray. Thank you guys for joining us, Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for watching. Thank you for your support. CO see

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Speaker 1: tonight after the game Watchington Green Bay. We're back in

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Speaker 1: five hours. Please call me