WEBVTT - Chargers Weekly: Daniel Jeremiah’s 2025 NFL Draft Preview 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:13.319 Late fifteen to ten Touchdoup, Welcome to Chargers Weekly, and 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.120 what a special treat the broadcast team is together, even 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.880 though it is his busy season. Daniel Jeremiah kind enough 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:21.639 to join us for a little bit. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:21.920 Of a preview. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.079 We're gonna be out of the combine, so four days 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.960 there and certainly way too big of an ask for 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.800 DJ to swing by all of the responsibilities you'll have 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.920 on the NFL network and everything surrounding that. DJ, so 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.960 certainly appreciate you coming in here and giving us a 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:36.880 little bit of a preview of what we're going to 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.120 be looking at when we make our way out to Indianapolis. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.800 Going to do a daily show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, probably 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.080 multiple shows we'll have for you. So just I guess 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.599 first question overall is how's the class. The Chargers don't 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.239 need a quarterback, so I don't need to focus on that, 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.280 but otherwise, how is this draft class? 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.120 It's interesting, I think I would say maybe a little lopsided. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.280 There's some years where it's just kind of spread only 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.000 across the board. It's a not a great year for quarterbacks. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.679 I'll start with the negative, then I'll get to the positive. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.760 So it's not a great year for quarterbacks receiver. I've 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.119 got some more guys to watch there before we get there. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.560 But as we you know, stand right now in the process, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.840 i'd say it's a little bit down at the wide 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.840 receiver spot. So those are the ones where it's not 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.399 quite what you'd want it to be. Now, the strength 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.520 of it is, you've got defensive tackles galore. I mean, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.200 it's ridiculous. I tweeted this out the other day. I 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.080 had twenty four guys at that position that I gave 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.560 potential started grades. So I'm not saying slam dunk starters, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.600 but they at least had the potential to be starters. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.880 And for perspective, last year I had twelve. So it's 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.720 stacked at defensive tackle. It's a good group of edge rushers. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:47.000 It's running back is really really deep. Tight end has 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.400 a good seven or eight deep at the tight end position. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.720 So you get kind of a feel for it there 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.400 of what the strengths and weaknesses look like. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.480 So you look at you know, let's just focus then 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.880 in on the on the chargers. You talk about your 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.560 defensive tackles, right, and you have, like you said, some 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.600 really good ones. I was going through your top fifty 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.000 and you see Kenneth Grant and Walton I'm just thinking 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.520 of the guys that might be available when they pick 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.160 at twenty two, right, whether it's Walter Nolan. Know there's 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.880 some issues there off the field, but on the field, 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.799 incredible Kenneth Grant, Derek Harmon. Then you kind of I 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.000 get into your next tier with Alfred Collins and t J. Sanders, 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.400 and then I look at the free agent pool and 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.600 I see a guy that just dominated on Sunday at 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.280 the interior line position in terms of Milton Williams, and 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.919 you think about ODIGGI zooa, Like, so, how does that work? 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.000 As someone who's been in the front office, you see 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.359 what's available in the draft, you see these incredible players 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.560 available in free agency, you have all this money, Like, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.200 what is that combination for what Joe Hortiz is going through? 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:45.960 Yeah, it's both sides of it, right. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.079 So you've got on the side of the existing team 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.800 being the Philadelphia Eagles saying, man, we love Milton Williams 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.160 and that was a heck of a game, but there's 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.040 a whole bunch more detackles coming up, and we're going 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.280 to be able to move our money around other places, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.519 and so we wish you the best and off you go. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.919 And then if you're Joe Hortiz, you look at it 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.880 and say, okay, well, we want you know, we want 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.440 an impact defensive tackle. We know we can find one 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.000 in the draft here. But is this a situation where 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.560 we say that would free us up, that would free 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.200 us up for some of these other positions there in 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.959 the first round. So literally they are taking and I'll 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.240 just you know, take a card here. You are just 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:26.560 taking a piece of paper and you're gonna write option A, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.920 option B player one player two player one player two, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.560 and you're gonna put this up on the board and 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.600 you're gonna say, Okay, guys, which which package do we 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.400 like better? Do we like the veteran with the rookie 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.920 or the rookie with the veteran. And that's that's what 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:38.360 you're doing. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.120 So what do you think, you know, let's just kind 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.040 of go through that then. But just I don't know 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.400 how comfortably are you know, sharing your position, considering your 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.520 relationship with a lot of these guys in the front office. 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.040 But Punaford heck of a year on a bargain tier 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.280 tart heck of a year on a bargain deal. I 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.240 feel like Morgan Fox has been just great in that room, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.680 plays with effort, solid veteran presence. Kind of what do 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.080 you make of what's available to them, you know, considering 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.080 what they had last year and all this money they 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.160 have to spend, and how they might go about addressing 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.160 because to me, that might be position number one that 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.080 they're kind of in this conundrum with Yeah. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.520 You hear you know, we hear it with Jesse Minner 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.240 the way he talks about kind of building the run 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.400 wall and Puna Ford was the wall. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.840 I mean, he was outstanding in the job that he did. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.600 Tier Tart gave him some upfield penetration presence that they were, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.680 you know, sorely lacking. So those guys absolutely coming off 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.080 big years. I'm curious to see how it all works 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.520 out because my theory, and this is from seeing this 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.640 in years past, is that the high end market guys, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.320 and I think maybe Milton Williams might fall into that, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.760 they're going to get their eighteen to twenty million like that, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.920 the high end guys, even when the draft is loaded 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.920 the position, some team out there is going to pay 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.440 the top dollar for the top guys who's going to 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:53.120 get squeezed is that list right below them of real 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.280 solid starting players. But I could see some team saying, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.599 you know, we can get one a similar type player 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.400 in the third round this year. You know, maybe we 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.880 don't dole out that money, so it could end up 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.200 working out well for the Chargers and that maybe one 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.920 or two or both those guys you end up getting 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.599 back for in a normal year a price you wouldn't 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:14.120 be able to get. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.960 Them at in terms of them versus like you said 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.279 that next tier on Wuzo Rique Adiggy Zuoa, DJ Hill. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.480 Does it just when you're in the room and you're 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.880 building a team, is it, Hey, we got our guys, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.880 they played well. It makes more sense the money is 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.880 similar or maybe even a little less. Is that kind 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:31.600 of how it works. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.159 I'm one hundred percent a fan of certainty. You know 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.640 exactly how they fit. You know how they fit in 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.520 the scheme, you know how they fit in the locker room. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.960 You know what they do well and what they struggle with. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.839 You understand how to help and cover up those things. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.039 Unless it's I mean to me, if it's even or 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.200 even close to even you're keeping the guys you got 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.680 I mean, it's got to be a significant improvement if 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:52.839 you're going to swap out. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.560 That's stick on defense then an edge. And it's interesting 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.479 to see kind of you know, yours compared to some 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.120 of the other big boards that I've been cross referencing, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.919 and certainly the one name and I guess it just 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.680 depends on whether or not you view him as an edge, right, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.200 and that's Johah Campbell, and so kind of walk us 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:15.120 through if let's just say, Mike Green, if James Pierce slides, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.920 if they because that's the kind of to me, that's 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.760 the most interesting position group. Is Khalil Mack coming back. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.440 I feel like he's not unretiring or he's not staving 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.640 off retirement if he's not coming back, Yeah, what he 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 do with Joey's thirty six million bucks is truly ready 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.280 to be a full time star. And then I look 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:30.840 at this group and it feels like this is a 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.040 really deep group as well. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.359 Yeah, it's a fun group. And Campbell is an interesting 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.760 one because he plays both. He plays off the ball, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.279 he plays on the ball, And you're going to see 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.280 the same thing at the top of this draft with Walker, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.839 with Jalen Walker, who is someone who does both plays 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:45.680 on and off the ball. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:46.440 Man. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.800 When I watch Campbell rush, I'm sitting there and going, whoa, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.560 I could dream on that a little bit, like let 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.680 him just stay out there and let him rush full 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:53.800 time and see what he can do. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.040 I thought he was just a really really. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.080 Dynamic player who's long, explosive, and who can do so 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.560 many different things. And you know, one of the cool 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.720 things is is you watch the tape and you kind 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.680 of fall in love with the player, and then you 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.920 call the school and I'm talking to the guys at 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.560 Alabama and They're like, I'm like, man, this guy popped 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.560 like crazy. You know, I just you know what, you know, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.440 what was the difference and how did it go? He said, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.800 this guy came in here and we had Will Campbell 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.760 and then we had Gosh with the with the Vikings 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:22.920 last year their first round pick. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.680 Why am I blanking on his name? Money? Their edge 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.560 r Miles Turner. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.040 Oh, Miles Turner. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.440 Yeah. So they have both those. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.640 Guys, and You're sitting here going, well, we got two 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.480 first round picks, two high first round picks. So they 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:34.600 were like, well, we got to get this guy in 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.640 the field. He's too athletic, so they move him to 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.800 off the ball. He was an edge rusher in high school, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.000 they never really been an off the ball linebacker, and 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.160 turned himself into a first round player as an off 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.480 the ball linebacker. But I still think when I look 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.560 at him, I'm like, dude, this guy could still you 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.920 might put him outside. You might have something really special 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:50.280 with him. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.960 So let's uh, you know what, then let's just execute 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.880 this sort of that. Let's do this exercise right edge 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.640 interior lineman, uh wide receive. It was Dallas Turner, by 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.840 the way, Dallas Turner, that's what it center for the 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.200 Indiana Pacers. There you go, there you go. So and 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:09.880 you know what, First, let's get into the tight end group. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.200 You said seven or eight, But what's the gap? Because 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.240 you have Colston Lovelan as your number seven guy, I 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.160 can't remember what you had Tyler Warren. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.960 As he's up there above him. So I have there 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.360 five and seven. So I have Tyler Warren at five, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.120 I have Colston Loveland at seven. Then I have Mason 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.440 Taylor at thirty five, who I love, Elijah Royos at 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.560 forty nine. So those are the guys in my top fifty. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.040 But I mean that's a that's a great group and 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.720 of like in terms of the value there, right man, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.959 you get if you get Mason Taylor in the second round, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.240 I mean that's I mean, he's going to catch eighty 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.280 balls a year and it's going to be you know, 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.840 just reliable. He does not drop the ball. You know 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.960 where he's gonna be. He's got a big catch radius. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.160 He's a really quarterback friendly target. To me, I think 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.280 he's a he's going to be an outstanding value. So 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.120 that's that's kind of that. Do you think he'll be 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:56.920 there at fifty five? 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:57.920 I don't. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.360 I'm I'm a little doubtful on that coming off of 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.640 a strong senior ball. I'll tell you what I will. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.640 I will give you a firm yes or no after 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.319 the combine. Right, so let's run, he runs, Well, he 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.120 ain't gonna be there. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.720 So let's say what like what what to you is 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.920 more value getting Colston Lovelan, your number seven player at 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.280 twenty two if he's sitting there, if you think he's 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:19.800 and I don't know if you think he's gonna be 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.880 sitting there, or getting let's say Taylor's gone a royo 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.599 at fifty five, Like, what what sort of lines. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.920 I would I would I would look at love one 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.080 as the as the play there. Even though you have 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.800 some depth and even though man we can, we don't 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:33.600 have to take a tight end. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.200 I think we get someone like a Royo. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.640 You know, Fanning from Bowling Green's gonna be around in 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.320 that next you know, second third round you got Ferguson 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.920 from Oregon, who's an intriguing player. There's there's other guys 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.880 for sure, but I don't know that you're gonna get 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:49.640 the impact you're gonna get with Krin. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.520 So what like, what is he? What is he compared 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.120 to for people? Because it's not like there was great 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.920 quarterbacking there. The numbers aren't eye popping. So like if 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.120 you draft Colston Loveland, can you make that Hey, this 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.600 is sort of who we compares closest to in the NFL. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.959 Yeah, I'm gonna just do what you're not ever supposed 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.720 to do in this business and compare guys to Hall 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.000 of famers. But he is, like a Kelsey is the 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.280 type of player that you're dealing with. I mean that's 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.640 I just put tight ends and I say there's two trees. Right, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.480 You've got the Gronk tree, in the Kelsey tree. So 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.560 when you look at Tyler Warren, he comes from the 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.800 Gronk tree. You know, big physical seam runner can help 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.040 the run game. You know, he's gonna be just impossible 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.520 to get on the ground after they catch because of 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.080 his brute strength. And then you've got more of the 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.599 choice route option route field players with the quickness and 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.839 the suddenness. That's the Kelsey tree and that's where where 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.679 levelin falls. And I just I mean, if you want 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.760 to talk about matching up with him and you have 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.400 Mconkie in the in the slot, good luck man like 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.559 that that they are going to torture the middle of 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.640 the field. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:50.880 All right, So let's go to because there's a few 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.400 positions and heat tight end certainly feels like one two 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.319 I'd be. I'm hopeful that they'll bring back JK. Dobbins 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.400 thought that was just an incredible season from him, but 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.839 obviously with injury concern he ends up missing four games. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.199 You gotta sort of support that. It feels like it's 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.120 a great running back draft. So when you look at 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:12.359 running back, you know, let's say Ashton Genty's falls to 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.080 twenty two. If what do you do there. Now you've 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.959 got Loveland, You've got jet Like, do you think that's 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.160 a possibility that genty could fall the way to twenty 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:19.600 two or now? 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.200 I think it's possible just because of the position he plays. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.360 I don't technically own track spikes, but if I did, 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.480 I would probably put him on to run the card 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.040 up to the commissioner. I love Ashton gent Man. I 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.120 think he's one of the five best players in the draft. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.319 I think he's outstanding, so I would have no problem 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.920 with that. But again, that's the decision and the discussion 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.160 that takes place in the in the meeting room, which is, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.600 you know, similar to the one we just had, which is, okay, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.600 we have him grated up. Here be a great value 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.840 for us if we got him, but we could also 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.760 fill one of these shallower pools of players with our 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:55.439 first round pick. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.720 No on we have backscalore in this draft. We turn 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.000 around get one second or third. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.440 So give us a couple of names to keep it 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.079 for these guys, to keep it out for our listeners 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.240 to and viewers here on YouTube, to keep an eye 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.080 on in the in the at the combine, because like 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.400 you said, it's you got the two out of out 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.080 of Ohio State that we just saw perform at an 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.120 incredibly high level in Judkins and Henderson. If they're available, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.840 what is that a two? Are they a third? 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:18.720 You know? 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.559 And then you got I mean, I can throw Skataboo 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.440 as the one that everybody's excited about. I don't know 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.040 what his pro prospects are, but kind of walk us 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.760 through that position. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.880 Yeah, No, I'm a Scataboo is a fun one. I 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.280 think he's gonna you know, he's third. Fourth round is 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.200 where he's gonna go. He's there's a chance. I was, 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.480 you know, doing some homework and talking where these guys 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.400 are training and talking to a bunch of folks, and 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.120 it sounds like he's got a chance to run the 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.000 four fives. He runs in the four fives, he'll probably 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.640 run his way into the third round. He's a good 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.959 player to me when you look at the list, Treyvon 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.959 Henderson's got a chance to go in the first round 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.400 out of Ohio State because of the. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:52.960 Jamiir Gibbs factor. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.760 You know, people saw us a running back with big time, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.240 big time juice, explosiveness and the impact he made with Detroit, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.480 and I think there's you know, gonna be some of 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.480 those comparisons with Travon Henderson. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:04.679 I don't think he's as. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.079 Loose of a runner, like quite as fluid as Jamier Gibbs, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.440 but he's got tremendous value in the past game. He's 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.600 a home run hitter and really, you know, in that 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.760 pass game, probably one of the best pass protecting running 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.800 backs that I that I've evaluated in the last handful 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.439 of years. So he's gonna go twenty to thirty five 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.760 forty in that range would be my guess. If you 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.439 don't take him in the first if you're the charges, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.000 you're not going to see him in the second round. 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.920 I don't think Judkins is going to be in that 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.800 you know, probably mid to late two to, you know, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.280 middle three is. 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.040 The range for him. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.360 Omarion Hampton has got a chance to go in the 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.800 first round from North Carolina. He in talking to the 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.800 folks where he's training money. He's two hundred and twenty 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.840 three pounds, he's got six percent body fat and like 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.480 all of the power explosiveness stuff he does is like 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.120 in the one hundred percentile of the guys they've trained there. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.000 So he's a freak. So he's going to another one. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.360 I think with him and Henderson, both those guys are 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.680 going to go twenties thirty. So but for the charges, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.240 if you want to go down the line and find 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.440 some value, I like the idea of trying to, you know, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.400 bring back JK. Dobbins and then maybe pair him with 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.439 a real dynamic, explosive player, a home run hitter. And 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.040 you look at you know, Dylan Samson from Tennessee, he 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.520 can hit some home runs. Jayden Blue down the line 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.480 from Texas, who can really catch the heck out of 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.520 it out of the backfield. He's a little a little tight, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.120 but he's got huge, huge speed. Those are a couple 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.400 of interesting ones, and we'll see what Caleb Johnson runs 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.760 runs from Iowa. He's a big fast runner. Kind of 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.640 think of you know, if you think of the Chiefs 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.480 and what they had when it was going well with 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.240 them in the backfield, when you're like you look back 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.280 there and you go, okay, oh that's what that seventh 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.040 round pick. Oh my gosh, I can't believe that we 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.120 found this gem. But you know, it's there's limits there. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.440 It's just straight line speed. It's a little bit tight, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.560 but man, you hit a crease and you're gone. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.800 All right, let's go corner. Because certainly the front office, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.560 led by Joe Ortiz and Chad Alexander, found two gems 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.080 in Hart and Target guys that you put out there, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.840 and certainly, you know, maybe not elite level corners, but 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.720 great production. Especially tar He's still ball production. You would 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.800 assume going into next season they're they're in the conversation 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.000 as starters one outside. Maybe Tarheb's is your slot corner 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.120 there or your nickel corner, however you wanted to name him? 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:18.040 What about this? 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.920 I mean, you have a guy at corner in Barron 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.400 that every other big board, I don't see him anywhere 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:26.920 near where you have. You got him at seven. I 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.880 got other boards that have him in the forties. So 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.360 kind of walk us through that player, and I would 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.360 imagine that's going to change right after the combine and 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:35.560 as we get closer to the draft. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.600 I've done this a couple of times last few years. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.240 So I did it with Sauce Gardner and it was like, 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.800 oh my gosh, you're crazy. I did it with Devin 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.960 Witherspoon and he can't have that guy up there. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.160 He's tiny. What are you gonna do with him. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.680 This tape is so good and I'm just watching these 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.440 guys going through one after another, and he is unbelievable 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.120 as a nickel and coverage. He's got incredible ball skills. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.720 He does not his tackles. If you watch that Super 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.000 Bowl and saw Cooper Degene and what his impact was 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.600 in that game, this is a similar type of player 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.000 and Baron in what you're getting there. And if I 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.280 think the league had a do over, maybe Cooper Degene 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.280 doesn't fall to the fortieth pick. Brian Branch. Look at 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.680 the impact that he's had with the Detroit Lions. For 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.080 some reason, the league has decided, oh, we're not gonna 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:20.840 you know, we're not going to take those guys up high. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.840 I think it's idiotic. His tape is outstanding and right 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.080 you know, the question was, Wow, he's playing the nickel 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.040 because he can't really run, you know, That's that's why 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.560 they put him in there at nickel. And I'm like, well, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.440 I don't see any issues with him running when I'm 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.040 watching him on tape and when I talk to the 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.600 folks that are training him, and the second number starts 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.280 with a three, I don't know that seems. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:39.400 Good to me. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.800 Yeah, so behind him, you have him ahead of Will Johnson. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.120 Everybody's got Will Johnson is like a top seven. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.520 And Will Will could Will could. You know, Will could 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.160 easily end up going ahead of him just because he's 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:50.760 so big. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.920 My Will project is, once I get through watching all 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.000 these guys for the combine, I'm gonna circle back to 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.000