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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in fourteen hours up on into the fifteenth hour

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Speaker 2: of the week. We appreciate all of you who've been

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Speaker 2: listening to us all week long. Hope that you are

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Speaker 2: going to have fantastic weekends. We'll certainly be back with

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Speaker 2: you on Monday. But there's been a lot of negativity

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Speaker 2: out there. I, who were usually a huge optimist, have

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Speaker 2: undoubtedly succumbed to some elements of negativity. Whether it's Arizona

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Speaker 2: associated with an eighteen sixty four law on abortion being

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Speaker 2: elevated to the law of the land there, whether it's

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Speaker 2: Frankly OJ dying and spending time going back thinking about

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Speaker 2: thirty years ago and how OJ might be covered today.

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Speaker 2: But I want to give you some optimism as we

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Speaker 2: roll into this third hour and as we head into

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Speaker 2: the weekend. A couple of stories out there that got

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Speaker 2: my eye, one in the Wall Street Journal, one in

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Speaker 2: the New York Times. Buck, let's start with the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal, and I mentioned this I think off the

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Speaker 2: top of the show and said I was going to

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Speaker 2: discuss it. I said on this show that I thought

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent of black men might be willing to

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Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. That would

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Speaker 2: be a substantial jump from what the numbers reflected in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty And I said, that's why I think Trump

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Speaker 2: is going to pick Tim Scott as his running mate

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Speaker 2: South Carolina Senator Tim Scott because I think Trump sees this,

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Speaker 2: and he sees an opportunity to make inroads into Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's base primarily through black men.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to.

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Speaker 2: Be harder to move black women, who are really the

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Speaker 2: focal point of the Democrat Party ninety six percent of

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Speaker 2: them vote Democrat, unprecedented across racial and gender lines anywhere

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Speaker 2: to have a monolithic support of that nature. But I

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Speaker 2: think the black men's support is starting to crack. And

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Speaker 2: there was a big article in the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 2: today's edition saying that in their seven state swing state

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Speaker 2: poll that is North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada,

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Speaker 2: and Arizona, the seven states where this election is going

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Speaker 2: to be decided, Joe Biden was getting fifty seven percent

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Speaker 2: of the black mail vote, thirty percent going to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: That would represent a seismic difference from twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 2: if Trump were able to get thirty percent of the

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Speaker 2: black vote in those seven states, Donald Trump would be

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Speaker 2: president of the United States. So, if you want to

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Speaker 2: craft a positive narrative, I think you're going to be

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Speaker 2: the rain on a sunny day here buck. Do you

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Speaker 2: buy it? Do you think there is legitimacy? There is

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Speaker 2: this poll accurate? Is it going to change in the

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Speaker 2: next six and a half months. How do you assess

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal data that's out today?

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Speaker 3: I think Clay can see the storm clouds. Get yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was afraid of this. I was afraid of it.

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Speaker 3: Go through this every four years, Republicans start to believe

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Speaker 3: and it's always different. This time it's different, always different,

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Speaker 3: that there will be a greater percentage and a difference

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Speaker 3: making percentage. I think that's really the key, right, Does

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Speaker 3: a shift in the black vote make a change in

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Speaker 3: a state or perhaps even in the entire election, so

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Speaker 3: that a Republican wins. We went through this last time,

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Speaker 3: we went through this, and certainly in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, and it has not happened. It has been

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Speaker 3: a remarkably durable support that the black community gives to

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Party somewhere along the lines of ninety percent. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's basically added around ninety percent every election site, the

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Speaker 3: numbers that you're looking at, Clay and you're pointing to

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Speaker 3: and look, Wall Street Journal is writing this piece because

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Speaker 3: it does seem noteworthy this time, even more perhaps than

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Speaker 3: last time, that there's a shift among black male support

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Speaker 3: for Donald. The black female vote is not expected to

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Speaker 3: break for Trump. Really, it's not going to move in

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Speaker 3: a noticeable fashion. And I think it's fair to say

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Speaker 3: it is. And it's not older black men either who

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Speaker 3: are more inclined, it seems, this time around, to vote Republican,

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Speaker 3: vote for Trump for president. And and the the rationale

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Speaker 3: on it. I think that's that's where the storm clouds

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Speaker 3: this one. Everybody, Oh, you know, Trump's gonna get thirty

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Speaker 3: or something whatever it is. I mean, I think it's still.

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Speaker 2: I said, twenty five percent is my prediction, by the way,

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm super optimistic.

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Speaker 3: Right, Let's I'm gonna write this. You know, I keep

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Speaker 3: a little a little journal of some of the of

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Speaker 3: some of the predictions on the show. So you think

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Speaker 3: of the black black male vote period not not like

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Speaker 3: not you know, under forty or something. Okay, yeah, second

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Speaker 2: Reports are that he got twelve percent of the blackmail

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Speaker 2: vote in twenty twenty. So I'm effectively saying I think

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Speaker 2: he can double his black mail so, which would be huge.

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Speaker 3: And would mean that he's basically present. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be president. That I can't have itself, would mean he's present.

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Speaker 3: So so you're calling a shot into the upper deck here,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're you're before we even before we even

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Speaker 3: the parking lot. All right, we'll see. But here's where

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Speaker 3: I think it it is. There's an explanation for this

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Speaker 3: The illegal immigration issue is so profoundly troubling right now.

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Speaker 3: And it's so obvious in the major cities where you are,

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Speaker 3: the resources you see. I think it's a Denver right

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Speaker 3: now is saying they're pulling police funds to pay for migrants.

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Speaker 3: So so imagine now, you know we were talking Memphis before.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Denver is not Memphis. It is not not a

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Speaker 3: super dangerous city at all. But imagine that you live

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Speaker 3: in a part of the city where you just want more,

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Speaker 3: you know, you just want more public resources and public

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Speaker 3: attention for what's going on, and you're finding out that

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Speaker 3: migrants are getting some share of the budget that makes

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Speaker 3: it impossible for you. You find out that migrants are

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Speaker 3: getting work permits and are being told to go and

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Speaker 3: I think is where you have an issue here. That's

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Speaker 3: where I think I think the migrant issue may be

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Speaker 3: if it is different this time around, I think that

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Speaker 3: will be the primary reason it's different this time around.

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Speaker 2: My thesis is that the Democrat Party has become incredibly effeminate,

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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of black men see that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's why Hispanic men, Asian men, white men,

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Speaker 2: white overall men are going to vote roughly sixty forty

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Speaker 3: I mean, as we're talking about big gender.

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Speaker 2: Gap here, and I think some of this, Hey, if

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Speaker 2: BS is cutting through the noise in the black community.

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Speaker 2: And there are cultural issues now that are anti masculine

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Speaker 2: that I think are also registering. By the way, in

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do something I don't think we've done

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Speaker 2: before on the show, only black callers. You are listening

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Speaker 2: for Trump. Maybe you're voting for RFK. Maybe you are

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Speaker 2: a traditional Democrat who's someone like me and has been

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Speaker 2: redpilled over time. Do you believe these numbers in the

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal? I think we had Jewish callers when

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Speaker 2: we were talking about how there's talk that the Jewish

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Speaker 2: community has moved. I'm curious Black callers right now, you

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Speaker 3: Two do you buy it?

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Speaker 2: And I'll also say this, Buck, I think a lot

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Speaker 2: This is where I have some caught cautious optimism when

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Speaker 2: people like Whoope Goldberg on the View are saying Republicans

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Speaker 2: arguments have gotten so outlandish that there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of people saying, wait a minute, what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: I think we have what be Goldberg from the view, Buck,

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Speaker 2: did you hear this? This is what be Goldberg saying

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Speaker 2: Republicans basically still believe in slavery.

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Speaker 4: I take a look at the things that they're rolling back.

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Speaker 3: Remember I said ages ago.

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Speaker 4: You know they in their minds they want to pretty

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Speaker 4: slavery back.

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Speaker 3: They're okay with.

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Speaker 4: It because you see things change. You know, one of

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Speaker 4: the good things about the Supreme Court is you can

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Speaker 4: fight to make sure you make stuff better. You don't

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Speaker 4: generally fight to make stuff worse. And to me or

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Speaker 4: to roll back. And to me, if you're okay rolling

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Speaker 4: that back when things were not even a state, when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, how's that going to roll? How's that going

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Speaker 3: to roll. What's the next thing.

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Speaker 2: Republican Party ended slavery. It's pretty remarkable that what be

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Speaker 2: Goldberg would be saying, Republicans want to bring back slavery.

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Speaker 2: But this is what Joe Biden said. Remember Joe Biden said,

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Speaker 2: if you vote for the other guy, he'll put you

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Speaker 2: in chains. Basically I'm paraphrasing him. I think those kind

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Speaker 2: remember you tell me, Buck, I don't remember when Mitt

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Speaker 2: why I'm concerned that we've gone back in time in

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Speaker 2: some ways in our race relations. But I'm hopeful that

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Speaker 2: repudiated in twenty four.

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Speaker 3: You're less optimistic. I think you are. I love where

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Speaker 3: your head's at before we go into the weekend. But

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Speaker 3: I think unfortunately this stuff works, the scare tactics, the

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Speaker 3: you've got Donald Trump, who they have really convinced a

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Speaker 3: lot of people still is racist. Right. This is the

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Speaker 3: that's one of the main attacks they use against Trump.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't see it changing in a in

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Speaker 3: a dramatic way for this election. If it does play,

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Speaker 3: it is a whole election, and so you know what, it

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Speaker 3: will be a real, really telling aspect of this. Do

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Speaker 3: you start to see the signs of Democrats being worried

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Speaker 3: about their turnout or about you know, black voters going well.

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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal article says that they're spending twenty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars the Biden campaign is specifically on black

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Speaker 2: men to try to get out the vote. That's a

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Speaker 2: sign that they're seeing numbers that would suggest that that

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Speaker 3: I don't remember. But they need again, they have to.

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Speaker 3: The Democrat Party gets ninety percent of the black voter,

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Speaker 3: they lose basically, I mean, you know, if they get

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of the black vote, they lose, right, they

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Speaker 3: need ninety percent, especially when when you look at the

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Speaker 3: states that are in play for the swing states, they're

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Speaker 3: mostly states with a white population. A black population are

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Speaker 3: large enough that either you know, that's what it's not. Actually,

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Speaker 3: the Latino populations are in the big ones are in California,

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Speaker 2: That they kill pack Nevada, Nevada, and.

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Speaker 3: Little Brazonia, but not east of the Mississippi problem. Not

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Speaker 3: none of the none of the Pennsylvania. The Latino vote

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Speaker 3: So Trump got twelve percent. You think he'll get twenty

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take some.

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Speaker 2: More of your calls reacting to that Wall Street Journal story.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to play. There was a moment during

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Speaker 2: a Trump supporter there named MICHAELA. Montgomery hugged Trump and

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Speaker 3: Here is a cut from that that I'm going to

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Speaker 3: take your calls the.

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Speaker 11: General consensus or social media. What have you thinking that

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Speaker 11: He was very welcome, people were excited to see him,

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Speaker 11: Of course, we're from all four institutions within the AAEC,

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's an interesting take.

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Speaker 2: We're taking your calls eight hundred and two to two

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I think that

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Speaker 8: one other thing I want to say, I think it'll

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Speaker 3: To that, do you think?

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Speaker 2: I'm curious? So that's interesting. Do you think when your conversation,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you are open to Trump or voting

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, Now.

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Speaker 3: What do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 2: What do you think the black male voter who is

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Speaker 2: that would be an increase over twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is motivating that change?

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Speaker 8: I think black men a little bit more. They're not

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Speaker 2: Hold your dad seventies, So how do you so you

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Speaker 2: think generationally, because this is what the data would reflect,

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Speaker 2: thank you. The data would reflect that black men under

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Speaker 2: the age of forty do not have the same attachment

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Speaker 2: How do you assess what we're talking about right now?

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Speaker 3: What do you see?

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Speaker 12: I think that number, I think it's pretty good. I

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Speaker 12: And I think that really did happen in between twenty

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Speaker 3: So what are you attribute it to?

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Speaker 2: Are you a black woman who will be voting for

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Speaker 12: Well, I cross I mean I became. I mean I

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Speaker 12: I think a lot of black women are more married

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Speaker 12: Democrats say is good for them.

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Speaker 3: What about black men, what do you think they're moving.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was just curious what the the conversations are.

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Speaker 2: But we got other callers who went away and who

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Speaker 2: you got up next? Maurice in Charleston, South Carolina. Welcome, Maurice.

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Speaker 13: Well, thank you for having me always listen to the

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Speaker 13: show and have a lot of fun doing so.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: What you buy my argument? Do you see black men

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Speaker 2: moving towards Trump? Or do you buy buck that it's

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Speaker 2: not going to be as prominent as as this Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal pole would suggest.

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Speaker 13: I think it's going to be very prominent towards your

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Speaker 13: physician at the Wall Street Journal article. I'm hearing it

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Speaker 13: every day. His funding and support, historic funding to HBCUs

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Speaker 13: across the country, opportunity zones that he and Tim Scott

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Speaker 13: partnered on faith based initiatives throughout the America, especially here

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Speaker 13: in South Carolina. And he's speaking to real economics interests

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Speaker 13: of black people, not race, not hate, not fear mongering

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Speaker 13: as the Democratic Party does all too often.

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Speaker 3: I hope, yeah, thank you very much. I certainly hope

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Speaker 3: that this is what happens. It would be wouldn't it

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Speaker 3: be magnificent? If the there's like a poetic justice to

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Speaker 3: it if the Trump campaign turns into the Trump presidency,

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Speaker 3: if he wins twenty twenty four, Clay because the black

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Speaker 3: vote goes for him in unprecedented numbers, especially given that

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Party has been trying to convince the country

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Speaker 3: for now going on eight years that Trump is a

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Speaker 3: uniquely racist threat to the country and specifically racist against

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Speaker 3: Black Americans. Right, do you see what I mean? It

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Speaker 3: would be No, I think black it would be great.

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Speaker 2: It could be you could have a record black and

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Speaker 2: Hispanic turnout that gave Trump the presidency. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how the left wing media would respond, Lee and Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they wouldn't be happy. Yes, that's

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Speaker 2: a spoiler, that's true. Yeah, Lee, thanks for calling in

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Speaker 2: what you got for us?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, basically I want the weigh in on the survey

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Speaker 10: talking about the black voters. I'm used to be a Democrat,

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Speaker 10: now I'm independent. Basically, what I see is that definitely

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Speaker 10: black men are more for Trump, for sure. You know,

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Speaker 10: I would say that would be in the sixties, sixty, seventy.

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Speaker 10: But the women, the women are still in the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 10: Black women are still in the Democratic Party's camp. Ninety percent.

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Speaker 10: I would say ninety percent. And basically, I think it's

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Speaker 10: due to emotional It's an emotional attachment to the Democratic

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Speaker 10: Party being raised that way. And then when you start

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Speaker 10: talking about race discrimination and you know that I hate

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Speaker 10: the black the black people are being out here, are murdered,

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Speaker 10: all this this rhetoric that comes out, they get emotional

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Speaker 10: and they vote Democrat and they're not coming. I don't

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Speaker 10: see them coming out of that camp unless basically the

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Speaker 10: whole world just start crashing down on the black community,

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Speaker 10: which I feel it is. But with black men, I

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Speaker 10: feel like we always have been conservative. You know, we

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Speaker 10: believe in marriage basically between a man and a woman.

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Speaker 10: We believe as only two genders male and see male,

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Speaker 10: and most of us have gold grew up in the church,

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Speaker 10: and so that way we understand that, Hey, this part

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Speaker 10: the Democratic Party is swinging too far left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lee, I was gonna ask you what pushed you

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Speaker 3: away from being a Democrat to an independent.

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Speaker 10: I start seeing, I start seeing that they weren't delivering.

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Speaker 10: They weren't delivering on what they were saying. I'm looking

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Speaker 10: in the inner city. They control everything in the cities

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Speaker 10: and nothing has changed, if anything has gotten worse. I

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Speaker 10: start doing my research on history, looking at the history

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Speaker 10: of the party, the welfare state, which has really destroyed

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Speaker 10: the black community. So all these things weighing in, all

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Speaker 10: these different things, I say, hey, I can't be a

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Speaker 10: part of this. And then basically, I'm more conservative than liberal.

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Speaker 10: I was raised a certain way, and basically it goes

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Speaker 10: it goes at anathetical against what we believe in.

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Speaker 3: And most Blacks, if you really ask.

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Speaker 10: Them key questions, they would be more conservative than liberal,

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Speaker 10: but they still vote liberal because hey, the parents brought

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Speaker 10: them up that way. Basically, the Civil rights era, a

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Speaker 10: lot of people are still stuck in the sixties. You

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Speaker 10: still have some of the sixties leaders leading.

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Speaker 8: The black community.

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Speaker 10: Guy Al Sharpton, he's still prominent in the in the

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Speaker 10: black community. So all these different things have kept black

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Speaker 10: people from really seeing what is happening in our community

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Speaker 10: and still staying with the Democrat Party because basically, you

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Speaker 10: throughout race, you throughout discrimination, you throw out They're gonna

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Speaker 10: keep y'all in changed, They're gonna take away voting, all

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Speaker 10: that emotional stuff, keep some voting Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Please, thank you so much, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: calling in. I mean Clay a lot of insight and

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Speaker 3: a lot of I think a student analysis about the

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Speaker 3: trajectory right now of of voting in this country, especially

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Speaker 3: when it comes to the Democrat Party not being able

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Speaker 3: to follow through on promises, and how long can they

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Speaker 3: promise the same things and keep failing before everybody realizes

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Speaker 3: what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a couple more quick ones in here, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll close up shop with everybody. Lucille in Columbia,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, what you got, de Cecio, I apologize, I

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Speaker 2: got Lucille, But cecil, what you got for us columbiaself?

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Speaker 8: Come?

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Speaker 9: I left New York in ninety eight. I was born

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Speaker 9: and raised up there. I was born and raised the Democrat.

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Speaker 9: In twenty sixteen, God opened up my eyes and I

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Speaker 9: voted for Donald Trump. Donald Trump came out of Jamaica,

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Speaker 9: Queen's New York. I came out of Jamaica Queen's New York.

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump is not a racist. Al Sharpton needs to

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Speaker 9: stop that foolishness. Al Sharpton was all up in Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump's business when Donald before Donald Trump became president.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the call, Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 2: Columbia, South Carolina she's a New Yorker, and we'll take

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Speaker 2: a couple more of your calls loaded lines. A lot

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Speaker 2: of you want to weigh in. This fantastic. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: all the different feedback. Again, we're reacting to the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal.

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Speaker 3: Peace.

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Speaker 3: UF here you have Jason in California. What's going on? Jason?

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Speaker 6: How are you guys?

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Speaker 3: We're good, fantastic.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting you're talking about this.

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Speaker 5: I actually wrote an article in Stamblation Maggan called Same

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Speaker 5: as It Ever, was kind of going over what I

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Speaker 5: on in twenty twenty for a victory that will be

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Speaker 5: losses in twenty twenty four. And you kind of touched

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Speaker 5: on it a little bit with immigration. If you remember,

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Speaker 5: the first big thing that Trump did was his remain

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Speaker 5: in Mexico policy where you get the kids in cages.

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Speaker 6: And after that the backlash.

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Speaker 5: From liberal cities where we're going to claim these places

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Speaker 5: to be sanctuary cities.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if you guys.

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Speaker 5: Remember, at about twenty eighteen, there was an article that

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Speaker 5: came out in the Washington coast where Trump actually wanted

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Speaker 5: to do what DeSantis and some of the other governors did,

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Speaker 5: which was drop off caravans migrants to these quote unquote

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Speaker 5: sanctuary cities. There's not too many real sanctuary cities. A

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Speaker 5: lot of it's just rhetorical and they will work with

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Speaker 5: federal institutions like ICE. But places like where I'm from,

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Speaker 5: the San Francisco area, certain parts of Illinois actually eliminated

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Speaker 5: a lot of databases and will not work with ICE,

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Speaker 5: and they are true sanctuary cities. So that's why in

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Speaker 5: New York to a certain extent as well, But that's

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Speaker 5: why those places got the front of the migrant drop off.

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Speaker 2: And you you think all of this is impacting black

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Speaker 2: voters in your mind, the failure at the border. They're

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Speaker 2: seeing the money being spent in cities on non citizens,

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Speaker 2: and they're recognizing Democrats are responsible for it.

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Speaker 6: Why it's been reported right.

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Speaker 5: The way you're reporting it is, oh, well, look we're

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Speaker 5: spending these resources on them and not you. And first

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Speaker 5: of all, you have to ask the question, well, what

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Speaker 5: resources do you feel you need?

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Speaker 6: A and B. Why does the reporting change? And it's

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Speaker 6: not you know, people in in tournament camps.

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Speaker 5: For the most part, it's not like these migrants got

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Speaker 5: dropped off and got put in houses and got jobs

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Speaker 5: that can vote.

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Speaker 14: You have a.

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Speaker 5: Captain workforce that has no rights. So that's a win

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Speaker 5: for capital all the way around. And it's a strategic win.

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Speaker 5: Is it affecting black people. Yes, By the way it's.

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Speaker 6: Being reported, which really really horrible.

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Speaker 5: President of the NAACP in Illinois echoed Donald Trump's statements

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Speaker 5: by saying they're rapists and murderers quote unquote. She has

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Speaker 5: since kind of took back that comment and apologize it's

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Speaker 5: still been said. Also, crime is being reported extremely differently

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Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. It's the George Floyd summer.

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Speaker 5: You get a lot of police conduct. The George Floyd

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Speaker 5: murder was shown over a billion times.

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Speaker 2: In the We're gonna get this some more callers here

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Speaker 2: appreciate the feedback Mike d the Rev Doctor Mike and Florida.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 14: Okay? I think good afternoon. First of all, thank you

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Speaker 14: all for opening up to lang force. I think it

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Speaker 14: is anywhere between sixty to sixty five percent and the

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Speaker 14: black community of black mail votes, I think it's just

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Speaker 14: that high.

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Speaker 3: If that were to happen, it would be an earthquake.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Last caller Jordan in Cincinnati, buck that is even off off.

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Speaker 3: The charge, boxing me out. He's not even letting me

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Speaker 3: respond to some of these crazy numbers.

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Speaker 2: Jordan in Cincinnati really quick, he got twenty seconds.

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Speaker 15: I just want to say, I'm a jump black mail

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Speaker 15: voter twenty eight and I think I think my counterpart

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Speaker 15: was going to wake up and we're going to buck

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Speaker 15: against the get Democratic Party. Donald Trump put up in

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Speaker 15: Atlanta yesterday and he was received well, and you would

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Speaker 15: think he would not get every sption, you know, with

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Speaker 15: all the with all the wits on on social media.

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Speaker 15: So thanks for opening up the wises, honor and approvement.

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Speaker 3: Y'all were great to you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, fantastic calls, have fantastic weekends.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys,