1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Well, we am come in your city, don't pay a 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: guitars and saying you a conscious will be dire And 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: if you want a little banging, Uni, I come along. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: That's why today I am directing our House Committee to 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: open a formal impeachment inquiry to President Joe Biden. 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: I love voting. I'm not voting to fund the government 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: because Republicans and Democrats have spent too much. 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: Like I think holding hostage and impeachment inquiry is wrong. 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: You may have a game plan, he just hasn't shared 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 2: it with me. But I tell you what I don't 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: know about you. But I'm going to go to bed. 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 4: Freedom is back in the style, Welcome to the revolution, coming. 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: To your city, don't the way against and saying you 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: a conscious self. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: The news Sean Hennity show, more him the scenes, information 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: on freaking news, and. 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: More bold inspired solutions for America. Stay right here for 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: our final news roundup and Information Overload. Hi News round 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Up and Information Overload hour. Let me give you our 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: toll free number. It's eight hundred and nine to four one. Sean. 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program. We 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: love to hear from you this hour. So I said 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: this I think back, we should pull a tape. Linda, right, 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: what did I say about the Maureen Dowd column being 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: she excoriated and she never excoriates Democrats excoriated Joe Biden 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: but not recognizing his four year old, innocent, little granddaughter 27 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: in Arkansas. And I said, that's the canarian the call mine. 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Then I noticed, all of a sudden, one particular weekend, 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: maybe three four weeks ago, Politico, the New York Times, 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: and the Washington Post actually had real stories involving what 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: we're calling the Joe Biden bribery and money laundering scandal allegations. 32 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: And they all moved this story in their own way. 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: And then we noticed last week, what do we talk about? 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: More canaries in the coal mine? And that was you know, 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: in one week you get criticisms from very prominent voices 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: within Democratic Party ranks, Van Jones and David Axelrod and 37 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: James Carville, culminating in today the Washington Post column opinion 38 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: column by David Ignatius, probably oh one of the biggest 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: Biden supporters in all the mainstream left wing media. Now 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: you got a domino effect happening. And I said, once 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: we get to this point, and once you hear the 42 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: first Democratic elected official say something similar I said, at 43 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: that point, you'll know it's over. At some point, somehow, 44 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: some way, Joe Biden is going to be pushed out 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: and make an announcement that he will not be running 46 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: for re election. That is my prediction. Mark Penn managing 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: a partner with the Staguol Group, private equity firm specializing 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: in marketing services companies. But he's really well known for 49 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: being Bill Clinton and the Clinton's pollsters for years. Sir her, 50 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: are you welcome back? 51 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: Good? Thank you? 52 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: Why are so many Democrats afraid to talk to me? 53 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: You've been on my show a ton? Have I ever 54 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: been mean to you? 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: No, I'm always happy to talk to you, I. 56 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: Know, But but did did anyone ever ask you, like 57 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: why do you go on that idiot Hannity's program? Did 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: anyone ever ask you sometimes sometimes like every time? 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 5: Right? 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: And what do you just answering like, well, I get 61 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: to talk to a different audience than the people that 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: think the way I do, right, and you've. 63 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 5: Got one of the biggest audiences. 64 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: And TV, thank you, and radio we're on seven hundred 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: and almost thirty stations now. All right, So You're well 66 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: known to be a really really good You really help 67 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton out during his impeachment period. You've been there 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: for the Clinton family all these years. You've you've always 69 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: been a voice of moderation for the Democratic Party. I 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: would argue that the Democratic Party does not in any 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: way represent the Bill Clinton that you polled for as president, 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: but we could deal with that another day. So I 73 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: think it started with Maureen Dawd, It continued with Van Jones, 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: David Axod, James Carville, and now David Ignatius. Do you 75 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: agree with me that it looks like dominoes are falling 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: in a way that it's going to be Democrats that 77 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: are going to be pushing Joe Biden out and not 78 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: wanting them to run for reelection. 79 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 5: Well, first, I think, as as the litany, you left 80 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: out the. 81 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: CNN Paul, the CNN poll. One other thing I left out. 82 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough said every every single Democrat that he and 83 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: Mika Brazinski talked to say by is too old to run. 84 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: Now. Look, I wrote many months ago that I thought 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: neither Trump nor Biden should run. They both decided to run. Uh, 86 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: and I don't think either one of them is getting out. 87 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: You don't. You don't think Donald Trump will be the 88 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: nomine We'll get to that in a minute. 89 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 5: Uh. You know, I thought months ago that when when 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 5: Joe Biden got to this month September, he would have 91 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 5: to make a decision based on, you know, the economy improved, 92 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 5: that he built his numbers during the summer and so forth. 93 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: By the way biden Omics. What happened today, Inflation went up, 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: What happened yesterday, poverty rate increases for the first time 95 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: since twenty ten. Not good numbers. 96 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 5: So I think you're right about the pylons across the board. 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: I've always been a little puzzled now as to why 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: the Republicans of Pyligod give her the divers sort. But 99 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: I don't see any movement here. No Democrat is coming 100 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: forward to challenge. He's consolidated the Democratic vote within the primary. 101 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: I have a poll coming on in two days. I'll 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 5: be curious to see. And I asked all of these 103 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 5: questions in out what do you think, etc. Whether or 104 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: not people have moved after Labor Day, because I think 105 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: families get together. But I think you're right. There's a 106 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 5: big tile on it's across the board. But the Democratic Party, however, 107 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: is still it's still consolidated around him, and I just 108 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 5: don't see it cracking as I thought it might a 109 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: few months ago. 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: So there's a Wall Street Journal opinion piece out today 111 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: by Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and I had him on 112 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: TV just So Happens last night, and he talks about 113 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: how the Democratic Party is rigging the primaries to help 114 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and New Hampshire and Iowa, you know, pushed aside. 115 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: He wants the first contest to be in the state 116 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: that saved him the last time, in that being South Carolina, 117 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: which I don't think. I agree with Kennedy that they're 118 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: making it impossible for him to be a contender. Now, 119 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: the question is if they want him off the ticket, 120 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: mark my words, If they start sounding like me on 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: these on the bribery money laundering scandal allegations, you'll know 122 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: for a fact that he's out that that's not happening 123 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: among Democratic pundits or the Democratic media. Yet. 124 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: Well, remember the party is generally controlled by the president 125 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: in office. Generally the president office makes the party appointments. 126 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: So it's you know, surprised when you have an incumbent 127 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: president the party is going to be and I think 128 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 5: that's going to be true in the Democrat and Republican side. 129 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 5: The party is going to be tilted in favor of 130 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: the administration and not letting the primary season, you know, 131 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: break with the president, because as you know, it's almost 132 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: unprecedented for sitting presidents not to get renominated, no matter 133 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: what condition they're in. 134 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: So let me go to Vietnam this week. And you 135 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: know me well enough. I think I've been way ahead 136 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: of the curve about what I believe is Joe Biden's 137 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: very weak, frail physical state and his cognitive decline. I 138 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: believe it has gotten, you know, dramatically worse, culminating in 139 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: his own staff having to cut his mic in Vietnam 140 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: after And it's a rather long tape, but I really 141 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: want you to hear it because it's so bad and 142 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: for me, as an American, it's humiliating. I want you 143 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: to listen and to comment on it. 144 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Well, Good evening, Vietnam. My brother loves having there's famous 145 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: lions and movies that he always quotes, you know, and 146 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: one of them is, there's there's a movie about John 147 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Wayne Isn't in Scout Cout The Indian looks at John 148 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: Wayne and points to the Unions, says he's a lion, 149 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: dog faced pony soldier. Well, there's a lot of line, 150 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: dog faced pony soldiers out there about the rewarming. But 151 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: I tell you what, I don't about you. But I'm 152 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: going to go to bed. It wasn't confrontational at all. 153 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: Becoming very thank for everybody depends account press office. 154 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: Thanks everyone, I can thank. 155 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: You the political coverage. It looks some of the political 156 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: players and some of them. Let me ask rtorical questions. 157 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: No, Mark Penn, you're not going to like me to 158 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: ask this question. No democrat likes this question. Are you 159 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: really going to say that he's cognitively strong enough to 160 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: be president? 161 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 5: Well, look, I'm going to say it is a twelve 162 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 5: hour time zone slip. I don't know if he has 163 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 5: taken these one day international time slips. 164 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: I've been to Vietnam, I've bent to Singapore. I did 165 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: my TV show at nine am. I urge you to 166 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: go look at it, and I promise you I brought 167 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: the same energy at nine am as I bring locally 168 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: at nine pm. Do you think this man is cognitively 169 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: strong enough to be president? 170 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: Look? I think you're going to see a campaign here 171 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: and during a campaign. Look, he's going to have to 172 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 5: get out in campaign. 173 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: I like you, Mark, but you're dodging my question. I 174 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: love you, but you're really dodging. 175 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: My question because look, it's obviously not you know, a 176 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 5: president's finest hour and a tape like that in a 177 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: time zone. 178 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: Okay, the last part of that I was not from Vietnam. 179 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: The very last part that I played with the music 180 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't Vietnam. No time laps there. 181 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: I hadn't heard the I hadn't heard the last clip. 182 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: But yes, well, let me play it again and then 183 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: you tell me. Listen the political coverage. 184 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Looks some of the political players and some of them. 185 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask quetorical questions. Anyway, We've had many moments 186 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: like that, Mark, is he cognitively strong enough to be 187 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: our president? 188 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: Look, I can just tell you that right now, most 189 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: people in the country are questioning that, and he's going 190 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: to have to answer that question. You're not alone. We 191 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 5: know what the polls are showing. My poll included shows 192 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: that most people think that he may be too old 193 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: right now. You saw the CNN poll, and he's going 194 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: to have to confront that President Reagan successfully confronted that 195 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: when he was questioned, and he is obviously going to 196 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 5: have to confront that in the campaign and answer it 197 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 5: satisfactory to the voters in a way if he's going 198 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: to run this campaign, and he's going to have to 199 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 5: do that because the number are pretty clear. But it's 200 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: interesting those people who believe that are still voting for him. 201 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: When well, slow down, that's not what the CNM polls 202 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: showed sixty seven percent the week before poll. Democrats don't 203 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: want him to run. 204 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 5: Well, but he's still getting a forty in that poll. 205 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: I believe about a forty six. 206 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, they had thirty nine in the other poll. That's 207 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: for a sitting president, not a not a high mark, 208 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: so you're. 209 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: Not seeing it quite cheap over to the vote. No, 210 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: that's right. His job rating is thirty nine. A lot 211 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 5: of people are questioning his age. My poll shows that 212 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: as well, but they haven't shown him them defect from 213 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: voting from him yet because he's still about even with 214 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. My polls actually showed Trump a couple of 215 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 5: points ahead, but they haven't seen them put into action 216 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 5: that finding. So so the public, you know the public 217 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: is a smart public. They will resolve these questions. These 218 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: are real questions, and I think you're going to see 219 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 5: that resolve itself in the next month or two one 220 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 5: way or the other. 221 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Quick break on the other side, more with Democratic polster 222 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: Mark Penn. As we continue the newsmakers, you won't hear 223 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: anywhere else. This is the Sean Hannity Show. The opinion 224 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Now with Democratic polster Mark Penn is with us. Why 225 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: do you believe Donald Trump leading is having as large 226 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: a lead as he does. Why do you think he's 227 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: not going to be the candidate? 228 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 5: I think that his support hovers very close to fifty percent. 229 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: I believe this is very interesting. I thought the Wall 230 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 5: Street Journal poll of Republican primary voter showed that it's 231 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 5: primarily a suburban party. I thought it was interesting that 232 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,359 Speaker 5: Nicky Haley was beating Trump by six or seven points. 233 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: And I think she wasn't beating him directly. They had 234 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: hypothetical matchups with every Republican primary candidate. 235 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 5: Yes, she was beating Biden by six points, and you 236 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: know so, it said to me, there's still a lot 237 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: of room here. If the Republican opposition to Trump consolidated 238 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: to give Trump a real source rate but. 239 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: If he has fifty percent of the vote, let me 240 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: ask you this. You and I, Look, we're not novices 241 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: at this. It's not a first rodeo. I've never seen 242 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: anything like this. It defies all conventional political gravity. And 243 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: that is when a candidate gets arrested, arraigned four separate 244 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: times and the poll numbers go up. Do you think 245 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: there has been a level of overreach here, which I 246 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: believe has been way past that, that there is going 247 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: to be who would ever think Donald Trump a sympathetic figure? Right, 248 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: that it's going to result in people seeing this for 249 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: being purely political, and that there'll be a backlash to it. 250 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: Look, a lot of voters do see it as period 251 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: of political and I've seen the Department of Justice image, 252 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 5: you know, sink considerably to below fifty percent. 253 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: As low as I saw it below I saw in 254 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: the thirties. 255 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: Yes, some my pot's below fifty. But look, Donald Trump 256 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: has consolidated the very conservative vote. He's got I think 257 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: sixty eight percent of the very conservative vote of the 258 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 5: Republican Party. In the past, he actually didn't have the 259 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: very conservative vote. And so, yes, is there a base 260 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: that he has has it been inflamed is that a majority. No, 261 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,239 Speaker 5: I think the big issue is the economy. 262 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Who would be the best Democrat to replace Biden? My 263 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: last question. 264 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: I think we don't know who the best. I think 265 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: there are three or four governors. I think you know 266 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 5: you interviewed Governor Newsom and it made a pretty good performance, 267 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 5: I thought on on your show, right. 268 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: I thought it did great, but I knew he would 269 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: do well. But I also gave him room to talk 270 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: because I promised him. 271 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: I would do that you did, and then look, Kamala 272 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: Harris would be the vice president. As you see Joe 273 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 5: Biden Walter Mondale, she's. 274 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Just a wordsmith. I mean her words salads are almost 275 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: as bad as Biden's win or lose. 276 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: Democrats typically to give vice presidents a chance. That's how 277 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 5: Joe Biden is. 278 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're historically, you're dead on accurate. We 279 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: always appreciate you coming on, Mark Penn. I give credit 280 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: to any Democrat that comes on this show because they 281 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: take a lot of Adam shipp for coming on this show, 282 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: and it's just ridiculous. Anyway, Mark, good to talk to 283 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: you man, Thank you, thanks for having me. Eight hundred 284 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: and ninety four one show on number. You want to 285 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: be a part of the program, all right? Joining us now, 286 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: former governor of the Great State of South Carolina and 287 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: former UN ambassador now a Republican presidential candidate, Nicky Haley 288 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: is back with us. I'm grateful to have you, especially 289 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: from your capacity as UN ambassador. I don't know if 290 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm the only person upset about this. I think everybody 291 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: should be upset about this. But you know, we have 292 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: the Biden administration now paying what they're claiming to be 293 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: a six billion dollar cash ransom for Americans held hostage 294 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: in Iran. To me, that will only encourage further hostage taking. Now, 295 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: in June and July, the administration on froze more than 296 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: ten billion of Iranian assets held in Iraq, allowing Baghdad 297 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: to move their payments there. There's other articles saying that 298 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the total amount of this deal may ultimately add up 299 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: to as much as fifty million dollars of fifty billion 300 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: dollars regardless. You know, we're looking at a country governor 301 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: that can produce ten nuclear bombs in four months, according 302 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: to the Washington Free Beacon this week, and now we're 303 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: giving them the money to accelerate. Not only being the 304 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: number one state sponsor of terror, but accelerate the nuclear program. 305 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: It's horrific, Sean. I mean, you look at the fact 306 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: that they just put a bounty on every American's head. 307 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: So think about you know, my husband's deployed overseas. Every 308 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: military man and woman is now in more jeopardy. You've 309 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: got all these foreign service officers that we have working 310 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: in American embassies on the ground, they are now in 311 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 3: jeopardy because every enemy we have from North Korea, Iran, 312 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 3: China to Russia just saw how much money they can 313 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: get for taking American hostages. And I'll be the first one. 314 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: I worked with the Namazis, some of the ones that 315 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: are coming home, and we want our Americans to come home. 316 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: But when you do it this way, you have to 317 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: remember you're dealing with a regime that says death to 318 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: America every day. And we saw this in the Obama administration. 319 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: He gave all this money. You can't change a culture 320 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: by throwing money at it. All you're doing is spreading terrorism. 321 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: We saw with Obama they basically paid the Huthis to 322 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: do more trouble in Yemen, Hesbla and Lebanon. 323 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Oh, they were fighting a proxy war against the Saudis. 324 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: With that, absolutely, Iraq, Syria, they just went and made 325 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: the world less safe. But they went and put a 326 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: bounty on every American's head. And it just you can't 327 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: buy friends, you can't pay off enemies, and Biden has 328 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: not learned that rule at all. 329 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, let me talk a little bit about where 330 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: we are in terms of this presidential primary. The reviews 331 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: you got on the debate were pretty phenomenal. Probably I 332 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: guess the most controversial thing to come out of the 333 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: debate was you saying something that I've been saying that 334 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: I know makes a lot of people mad. Because I 335 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: am in my heart, I am pro life. I believe 336 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: in the sanctity of life. I believe life begins a conception. 337 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: We have an advertiser on this program, Preborn, and what 338 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: they offer free four D ultrasounds to any expecting mom, 339 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: and through the science of ultrasound, when they introduce expecting 340 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: moms to the miracle that's growing inside them and they 341 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: can hear heartbeats and see and count fingers and toes 342 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: and see facial features, it changes their hearts. I've always said, 343 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: abortion to me is going to end up being a 344 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: heart issue. Now that it's back in the States as 345 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: a result of the decision, and every state will decide 346 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: what their laws will be. You know, you made a 347 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: point that I have been making in spite of my 348 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: personal beliefs. I don't believe this is where the country is. 349 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I think the country's more in the first trimester, maybe 350 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: the Dobs fifteen week area. Certainly not late term abortion, 351 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: certainly not abortion up to the moment of birth, and 352 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: certainly not Governor Northam's you know, post birth, you know, 353 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: infanticide and murder, which was insanity, but you actually said 354 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: that Republicans better understand the reality of this because there 355 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: is an electorate out there, especially in swing states. I 356 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: don't think it would matter in South Carolina, but it 357 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: will certainly matter in Pennsylvania. We saw Doug Mostreno get destroyed. 358 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: He didn't even make exceptions for rape, incest of the 359 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: mother's life. He lost by more to a non incumbent 360 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: Democratic gubernatorial candidate than any other candidate since the nineteen 361 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: forties and dragged the whole ticket down with them. You know, 362 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: Oz was able to get double digit you know, tickets splitting, 363 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: and he couldn't make up or compensate the sixteen points 364 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: that Mostrano lost by. 365 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'll tell you I spoke my truth 366 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: at the debate, and that is that I am unapologetically prolite, 367 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: not because the Republican Party tells me to be, but 368 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: because my husband was adopted and I had trouble having 369 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: both of my children. So I am surrounded by blessings. 370 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: But you have to tell the American people the truth. 371 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: You have to stop demonizing this issue because it's personal 372 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: for every woman and every man. And I believe that, 373 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: you know, a right happened when we took on elected 374 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: justices and they stopped making the decision and we gave 375 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: it into the hands of the people. And so we 376 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: have seen states become more pro life, and I welcome 377 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: that we've seen some states go more towards the abortion site. 378 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: I wish that wasn't the case, but the people have decided. 379 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: But when we're talking about should there be a federal law, 380 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: let's be honest with the American people on what it takes. 381 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: It takes a majority of the House, it takes sixty 382 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: six zero Senate votes, and it takes the signature of 383 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: a president. We haven't had sixty Republican senators. In over 384 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: one hundred years, we might have forty five pro life senators. 385 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than 386 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: a Democrat president can ban any of these state laws. 387 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: So what can we agree on. We can all agree 388 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: that we don't want late term abortions. We can all 389 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: agree that we want adoptions and good quality adoptions. We 390 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: can all agree that doctors and nurses who don't believe 391 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: in abortions shouldn't have to perform them. We can all 392 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 3: agree that contraception should be accessible, and we should all 393 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: agree that no state law can say a woman who 394 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: got an abortion should get the death penalty or go 395 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: to jail. Let's start there. Let's humanize the situation. I 396 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: had a roommate who was raped in college. I wouldn't 397 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 3: wish what she went through wondering if she was pregnant 398 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: on anyone. Every person has a story. Let's be respectful 399 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: of their story. At the end of the day, what 400 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: do all Americans want and what should we want? How 401 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: do we save as many babies as possible and support 402 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: as many moms as possible? So let's do that by 403 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: coming together with plans instead of demonizing each other on it. 404 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be a part of it. I 405 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: don't think the Fellows have handled it well, but I 406 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: think it's important that we start talking about By the. 407 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: Way, I like that line. I don't think the Fellows 408 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: have handled its well. That's pretty funny, actually, but I 409 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: tend to agree with your sentiment on it. And look, 410 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: Republicans have got to look for a Republican to win 411 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: the White House. Governor. I'm not telling you any you 412 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, it used to be Florida and Ohio. 413 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about those states anymore. But you 414 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: know what we do have to concern ourselves now with Georgia. 415 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm very worried about Georgia. You have to fight in 416 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: North Carolina, as you know, and you have to fight 417 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: for Pennsylvania. That's never an easy win for a Republican. 418 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: The same with you know, states like Michigan and Wisconsin, 419 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: in Arizona, Nevada. I mean, it is hard. You have 420 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: to run the table as the Republican to become president. 421 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: I mean, Sean, we were in a room yesterday with 422 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: over one hundred, one hundred and twenty five women in Georgia, Republicans, Independents, 423 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: and a few Democrats. We want every person in the room, 424 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: every single person, because they want to hear the hard trues. 425 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: They want to know exactly what's going on. They want transparency, 426 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: They want to know that we're going to be honest 427 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: with them. You know, let's be honest that we didn't 428 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: get into this thirty two trillion dollar hole with just Biden. 429 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: Our Republicans did that to us too. Let's be honest. 430 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: We have to have transparency in the classroom. We don't 431 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: want to turn custody of our kids over to the teachers' 432 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 3: unions and school bureaucrats. Let's make sure that we bring 433 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: law and order back to our country and require prosecutors 434 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: to prosecute according to the law. Let's acknowledge the lawlessness 435 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: on the border and say that it cannot stand and 436 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: start securing this border by instead of catching the lease, 437 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: going to catch and deport, putting more border patrol on 438 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: the ground and letting them do their job. And let's 439 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: acknowledge that we've got national security threats all around us 440 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: and America can't be so arrogant to think we don't 441 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: need friends. We need friends, and we've got to start 442 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: pulling alliances so that we. 443 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 4: Can do this. 444 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: And that's what we're telling people. And it's resonating all 445 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: over the country. And you know, I think the debate 446 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: certainly woke things up, but we've seen nothing but momentum 447 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: ever since. And I think it's because Americans are tired 448 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: of working for government. They want government to be working 449 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: for them, and we're determined to make that happen. 450 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because a lot of people say, well, 451 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: Donald Trump should debate. If I was running a race 452 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump was in the race, look, the guy 453 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: tends to take a lot of the oxygen out of 454 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: the room. I don't think you dispute that. I would 455 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: almost think it's an opportunity for people to get their 456 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: message out a lot more if he doesn't show up 457 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: at the debate. But you know that's my feeling, what's yours? 458 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: You know, I go based on what people have said. 459 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: I mean, people want to see him on the debate. 460 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: You know, debates are great because they show you your options, 461 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: They allow you to see how you know, people respond, 462 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: what their answers are. 463 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 5: All of that. 464 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: But I think that you know, people aren't going to 465 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: let someone who's absent. They want to see you fight 466 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: for them. They want to see what you're going to do. 467 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: And I think that he needs to get on that 468 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: debate stage. I'll welcome him on it. I think that 469 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: it's good for our country for them to see him 470 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: as one of those options and see what's going to happen. 471 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: And I think you don't want to be you know, 472 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: it's so confident that you think just because you're pulling 473 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 3: well now, that you're going to continue polling well by 474 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: not showing up. So you know, look, I think he 475 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: needs to be on the stage. I would love to 476 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 3: have him on the stage. I don't think he's going 477 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 3: to do the September one, but I hope that you'll 478 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 3: consider doing the October one. 479 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: All Right, Nicki Helly, former South Carolina governor and presidential 480 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: candidate for the Republicans and former UN ambassador. We always 481 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: love having you, Governor. Great to talk to you again. 482 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 3: Thank you. Go to Nicki Hayley dot com. Let's get 483 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: our country back. 484 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine foot one, Shawn our number. You 485 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. Logan is 486 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: in the Free State of Florida. Logan, how are you 487 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: tell you. How you doing, sir, I'm good. What's gone? 488 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: What's happening? 489 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 6: Well, I took a little bit of issue with something 490 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 6: you said yesterday about the government shutdown, and it's not 491 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 6: that you were wrong instead of with slightly misleading, And 492 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 6: i'd like to clarify, if you don't mind, go right ahead. 493 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: When when there's a furlough, which is what we called it, 494 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 6: I was active duty for seventeen years. When there's a furlough, 495 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 6: your correct is thing was still show up to work. 496 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 6: But they're a lot of benefits that are taken away 497 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 6: from troops, from even federal penitentiary. Worker's friend of mine 498 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: got out. He was a Marine Reserve, he worked in 499 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 6: the federal penitentiary. Furlough happened when we were still in 500 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 6: and he lost his truck. So to say that government 501 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 6: still works, our service members still show up to. 502 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: How long was that shutdown to lose your truck? Usually 503 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: shutdowns don't last that long. And once you tell any 504 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: lending institution that you're on furlough, they every single time 505 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: in my career that I can recall that everyone's been 506 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: given back pay. So it's not something that's not going 507 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: to be resolved. That just a matter of that. They 508 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: fear monger it like it's the worst thing in the world, 509 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: but it ends up all these people end up getting 510 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: free vacations. 511 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 4: Well so, and again when I was active duty, we didn't. 512 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: I got advanced my paycheck from my bank, but it 513 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: was essentially a interest free payday loan. And that happened 514 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: a couple times when I was on active duty. So 515 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: while I do agree the elected officials need to be 516 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: held to task and they need to do their jobs 517 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: that we sent them. 518 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: To go and do. 519 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily know if forcing that function by utilizing. 520 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta put pressure, you know, to get to 521 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: make real change. And I think that's what I was 522 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: trying to infer here. I'm not afraid of it. 523 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: But white pay starts to get looked at, dive paid, 524 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: jump pay, EOD pay, all those special incentives and benefits, 525 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: they start to get looked at if you start to 526 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: have a furlough. So there's you know, make as an 527 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: E three making thirty six grand a year. You know 528 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: those checks do matter. So thank you for your time. 529 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: So I do appreciate it. 530 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for your service, Thanks for what you're doing. Okay, 531 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: and no problem, sir, all right, eight hundred and nine 532 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: four one, Shawn our number if you want to be 533 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: a part of the program that's going to wrap things 534 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: up at today Hannity Tonight Live Audience Show nine needs 535 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: to an on box break News. John Solomon, Congressman Jim 536 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Jordan will weigh in. By the way, when do we 537 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: get to hear from the Biden family members like Hunter? 538 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Also Speaker Kevin McCarthy on the impeachment inquiry, how they're 539 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: gonna get budget deals done? 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