1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, let's kiss you. 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcasts one 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: of them productions iHeartRadio. One on one interview with my 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: sister Liz Danes. Kathleen Wilhoyt Here she comes. Let me 6 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: give you some of her staffs. She played the role 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: of Liz for sixteen episodes two thousand and four two 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. First appearance season four, episode twelve, A 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Family Matter. Last appearance, season seven, episode twenty two, bon Voyage. 10 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Liz is the younger sister of Luke Danes. She was 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: born and raised and stars Hollow. Follow her mother's death, 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Liz began to cut loose and get into trouble, including 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: smoking pot. She met Jimmy Mariano at a festival. The 14 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: two married and Liz gave birth to a son, Jess Marianno. 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy left her right after the birth of Jess, and 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Liz began a series of bad relationships, drug problems, had 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: trouble keeping a job, and was unsure of how to 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: raise her son. Let me tell you something a little 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: bit about Kathleen Wilhoyd's career, and it's an amazing one. 20 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: She began acting in theatrical production as a child the 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara Youth Theater. She attended the University of Southern 22 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: California before studying acting at the Lease Strasbourg Institute in 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. She made her feature film debut in Private 24 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: School nineteen eighty three, before having a leading role in 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Murphy's Law nineteen eighty six, followed by supporting parts in 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Witchboard in nineteen eighty six, Crossing Delancey nineteen eighty eight, 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Roadhouse nineteen eighty nine with Patrick Swayze, Lorenzo's Oil nineteen 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: ninety two. Show also had notable guest starring roles on 29 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: several series during this time, including Twin Peaks nineteen ninety. 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Beginning in nineteen ninety four, will Hoyd appeared as Chloe 31 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Lewis in the recurring guest staring role on the series 32 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Er and voiced the role of the titular character on 33 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the ABC animated series Pepper Ann nineteen ninety seven to 34 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: two thousand. Other notable film roles during the nineties include 35 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: science fiction thriller Fire in This Guy in nineteen ninety three, 36 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: and the survival film The Edge nineteen ninety seven. In 37 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, she was cast in a recurring 38 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: role as Liz Danes on Gilmore Girls, and has subsequently 39 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: had guest staring roles on Criminal Minds, Grey's Anatomy, Jane 40 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: the Virgin, and in twenty twenty she a guest starred 41 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: on an episode of Yellowstone and Coat. Can most recently 42 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: be seen in CSI Vegas, Ladies and Gentlemen, I give 43 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: you my sister, Kathleen Willhoyd. There she is, Hi, Sis, 44 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: you doing good looking, great, great backgrounds. We uh you 45 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: know the fan we are just such huge fans. The 46 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: the there needs there needed to be more Liz more TJ. 47 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: It was the most hilarious stuff. Uh. We are lauding 48 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: the performances. Just absolute comic genius and just heartfelt great stuff. 49 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Tell us how you got your start in show business? 50 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: How did it all begin? 51 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh? Uh, I was a kid that came out of 52 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: the shoots saying watch me. So I was like a 53 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: natural born theater dork. And I started singing in my 54 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: church choir as a you know, in kindergarten, and I'd 55 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: get the solos, so, you know, whatever, I started getting 56 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: involved in musical theater, just a theater kind of dork 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: dorky kid. And then in high school I dated Tony 58 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Edwards and Eric Stoltz, you know, at first and then 59 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: Eric and both those guys were working in to Anthony 60 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Edwards and Eric Stoltz. Anthony or Tony had an age 61 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: and manager. They had the same manager, this guy Gary, 62 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: And they invited Gary to my senior class play was 63 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: House of Blue Leaves, and Gary came to the play 64 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: and I didn't hear from him. And then I went 65 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: down to college at USC. I was there for about 66 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: six weeks. Gary calls me. He's like, listen, they want 67 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: a comedian to play sixteen. Why don't you go to 68 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: this address? And they want to meet you. So I 69 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: go to the address. It was a huge house, as 70 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: this guy ben Ephrem's house. They were having a party, 71 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: so I just almost assumed I had the part. I 72 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: didn't even know that it was necessarily an audition, and 73 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: they said, hey, will you read with Phoebe Kate's I 74 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: was like sure, but you know, just that kind of 75 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: bullet proof naive ta. I just didn't have any I 76 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: never really beat the streets. I wasn't like nervous, because 77 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. I just went from lead in the high 78 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: school play to of course they want me kind of 79 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: a mentality. Since then, I've had rumorous humbling blows time. 80 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: I was like pretty freaking bulletproof. And then I just 81 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: so I went upstairs red with Phoebe. She was great fun. 82 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: And then that was on a Friday, and then drove 83 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: to the set on a Monday. So yeah, so my 84 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: whole life changed in a weekend. 85 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: It was meant to be. 86 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, I didn't really think that I 87 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: was going to do anything else, but I just liked 88 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: singing and acting. 89 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: Right, So do you remember the audition for Liz. 90 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: No, because there wasn't an audition. I was. They offered 91 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: me the part, and I I love getting offers and 92 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 2: not auditioning to such an extent that if they offered 93 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: me the part of you know, a day player person 94 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: who changes porta potties, I would take it. I was 95 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: just like, what audition I'm in? And so I I, uh, yeah, 96 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: they offered me the part. I was thrilled. And then 97 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: I do have a memory with you because day one 98 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: was the eight page scene I think around I feel 99 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: like it was all about finding pot or something. But 100 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: it was an eight page scene. That's not anything that 101 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: I was ever used to at the on Er or 102 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: any of the other shows. You sit in the makeup 103 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: trailer trailer, you look at your lines. I got it, 104 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: and then you put on the set because you have 105 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: like two three lines in a big scene. This was 106 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: a mind screw, like a mind. 107 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: I know what you want. 108 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 109 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like duck, yes. 110 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: My duck, and you you know you are doing a 111 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: First of all, it's totally stylized, which my age. They 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: told me before I showed up on the set, they 113 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: were like, listen, you gotta talk fast. That's the style 114 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: of this. It's like doing Moliere, is what I tell 115 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: my students. Doing Gilmore Girls is like doing a period piece. 116 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: It's a different language and you have to know it. 117 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: You have to be word perfect. So it was a 118 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: huge trial by fire for me to be to have 119 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: to do an eight page scene from my very first 120 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: scene with an offer, only because I always feel like 121 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to get fired, like they're going to find out, 122 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, no talent that I am 123 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: or whatever. And but you were very patient with me, 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: and there was a lot of like back to one, 125 00:07:53,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: like you said, uh instead of like what yeah, you said, Uh, 126 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: It's it's okay. Back to one here we come. 127 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Perfect. 128 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: The minute my head hit the pillow, I was like, 129 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: it was crazy. That's hard work. My hat's off to you. 130 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: You did that for years and years. You must be 131 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: really good, Lauren said. It's like a muscle, and you 132 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: just get really good at at memorizing, you know, right, 133 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: you know. 134 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Being It's like it starts out like you said, it 135 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: starts out as panic, yeah, and then you just get 136 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: acclimated to it and then it just becomes like She's right, 137 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: it's like a muscle, and it's short term memory. You 138 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: don't remember a thing you did the day before, maybe 139 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: maybe twenty forty eight hours. It's just washed out to 140 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: make room for the new stuff to come in. Because 141 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's just kind of how you function. Yeah, it's odd, 142 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: it's odd, that's. 143 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Crazy, and you did that for years. Did so what 144 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: was your preparation for a scene, like for that eight 145 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: page scene, like, did you get into a a big 146 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: kind of thing? How'd you prepare? 147 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Just mainly it was George Bell. We'd just run it 148 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: until it was sop bulletproof. You know, just run it 149 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: and run it to death, and run it to death, 150 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: and run it to death. And you know, I always, 151 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: I always knew the acting would take care of itself 152 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: because there wasn't a lot of acting going on. It 153 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of blocking and attitude and tone and 154 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: pace and that sort of like served everything that. I mean, 155 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: it filled and filled in everything you needed to fill in. 156 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: But it was really just like I remember Gavin Palone 157 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: had this conversation with me season one because there were 158 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: a couple first couple episodes we were all kind of 159 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: getting we were a little clunky, you know, and we 160 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: were kind of blowing takes and stuff, and like one 161 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: day I was just really strong and I just was 162 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: like it was you know, you get that you start sweating, 163 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: like I'm not going to be able, and so he said, 164 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: just just listen, just come in cold. You got to 165 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: know it cold. And I and I know that I 166 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: always did that in theater in New York and I 167 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: knew it, but this this was a different animal. It 168 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: was You're right, it was the pace of it that 169 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: you had to get used to. It's like it's like 170 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: what they described, you know, college players going into the 171 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: NFL freaking out because it was like, these guys are 172 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: so fast, the game is so fast. I can't adjust. 173 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: So you have to make that adjustment. And you know 174 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: if they I think anybody could do it, you know, 175 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: you're you're put your back against the wall and you're 176 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: forced to do it or else lose your job, lose 177 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: your livelihood, lose your career. You know you're going to 178 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: do it right, So you figure out a way. So 179 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: you have been part Uh and this is from Jessica 180 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: from Saint Louis. You've been part of so many other 181 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: TV series. What still stands out to you about your 182 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: time on Gilmore Girls? Okay, I really have to ask. 183 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: What was it like working with Michael Dea Louise. 184 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: Oh, Michael is fantastic. 185 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 186 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: We were fast friends, you know if they cast a 187 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: show correctly. Uh, there's chemistry, like he is my cup 188 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: of tea, I'm his cup of tea. We had a 189 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 2: blast hanging out. He's peculiar in a way that I 190 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: feel like I understand I'm peculiar in a way that 191 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: he understands. He became a very good friend. Now since 192 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: Gilmore girls. You know how, I don't see him. He's 193 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: not a part of my life at all, you know, 194 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: other than I have like if he posts something like 195 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: when his father died or his mother died, I was like, oh, 196 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: that's got to kill that guy, because I know how 197 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: she was so important to him. And David Delouise was 198 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: also on the show for a while, but he was 199 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: a very good friend, easy hang. We would run lines 200 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: together all the time. Working with Michael was great fun. 201 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: When we did the wedding scene and his brother came 202 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: on the show, then I got to see the Delaise 203 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: kind of family dynamic, which is just full of love 204 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: and ploy and silliness and laughter. I mean that is 205 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: quite a family and anyway, so I really enjoyed that. 206 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: But I remember the highlights for me were Carol King 207 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: was on the set once and Sebastian Bach and Carol 208 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: King were on a golf cart driving. I don't know 209 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: where they were going, and I was about one hundred 210 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: yards away and Sebastian Bach says, Kathleen and I turn around. 211 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: I might have been with friend or something. And I 212 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: turned around and I was like, he goes, come in here. 213 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: I said, hold on a second. Oh, he says, Carol 214 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: wants to meet you or something. So I'm just like 215 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: swirly eyes. You know, I've been a huge Carol King 216 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: fan my whole life. I run to the golf cart 217 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: and then he looks at me and he sort of 218 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: blinks and he was like and then who like looks 219 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: and then I said, Hi, I'm Kathleen. He goes, no, 220 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: not you. The PA. I was like, and then the 221 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: pa who I was with or something she was like, Oh, Carol, 222 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: that's Kathleen Sebastian. This is Kathleen too. She's in the 223 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: cast or whatever it was. But getting to meet Carol 224 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: King was huge highlight. I've been a huge fan my 225 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: whole life. 226 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: So did you so you met she was on the Uh? 227 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: Well it was that during the series of the reboot 228 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: because I met her on the reboot. I never met 229 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: her on the series. 230 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Oh, she was at the she was on the lot. 231 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if she was on, but I didn't 232 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: get to be on the reboot. And my agent called 233 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: me and she said you need to call Amy and 234 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: say you should be on the reboot. And I'm like, 235 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going to call her, and like, if she's 236 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: not putting me on, then she doesn't want me on. Gross, 237 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. 238 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: You know. That's what it needed. It needed, it needed 239 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: Lizen TJ. It needed. It really did well. 240 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: It turns out I'm available. 241 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: Was there one particular scene that was your favorite to film. 242 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: And Gilmore girls one particular scenes? 243 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that wedding was hysterical. 244 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, the wedding was really Oh you know what 245 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: was fun too was working with you and Ventimiglia Milo. 246 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, I felt like. 247 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: We created you and me and Milo. I felt like 248 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: we created a you know, i' meanto the moments, and 249 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: I felt like we created a real family, kind of 250 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: acrimonious but but heartfelt relationship. So you know, that's a 251 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: that's a testament to your acting ability and to Milo's 252 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: acting ability and to mind, you know whatever. It's good. 253 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: But I mean, I did feel like that dynamic was 254 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: at play when we did our scenes together. And by 255 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: that time, I'd already gotten my my muscles, I'd gotten 256 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: better at my preparation, so I could just really focus 257 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: in on the sending and receiving part of the acting 258 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: task with the two of you guys. So that was 259 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: fun for me too. 260 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were very spirited, fun scenes and Luke. Luke 261 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: was always very happy, you know, the one that watching it. 262 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: I didn't like some of the things Luke was doing. 263 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: We could talk about this all day, but when you 264 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: were setting up your earrings and your jewelry in the 265 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: day because you were moving to town to be close 266 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: to Jess, and then I sort of had this attitude 267 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: like I don't like this, I don't want this. Get 268 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: him out of here. And I thought that was a 269 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: little much, and I didn't like what it did to 270 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: the character, because it's like, you know, you're here now 271 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: and the past is the past, and you've figured it out, 272 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: and you've got a relationship, and you know, why not 273 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: live and let live? I did not. I was highly 274 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: critical of Luke's behavior in that because you always because 275 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Luke's behavior when Liz was around was always so up 276 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: and energetic and happy, and you never really saw Luke 277 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: that way, especially in the first four seasons. But so, 278 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: why do you think Kathleen will Hoyt? Why do you 279 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: think Kathleen Because people want to know why Gilmour Girls 280 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: has stood the test of time. 281 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: Ah, what a great question. I recently I've been asked 282 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: to do Gilmore Girls Reunion fan things for years and 283 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: years and years, and I never do them because I 284 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: don't like fan things. They embarrassed me. I feel like 285 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: I'm not a big enough star to do that kind 286 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: of thing. I'm not being humble pie, I'm just telling 287 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: you the truth. I did a twin Peaks one years ago, 288 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: and nobody came to my table. I'm like, no, I'm 289 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: not doing this anymore. So I resisted, resisted, resisted, and 290 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: then finally somebody sent me an email that just felt 291 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: right and I needed the dough and I was like, 292 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: you know, pay me and I'll do anything, but I 293 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: need the dough. So they paid me and I went 294 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: and I was so delighted by the fans. I was 295 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: so enchanted. They weren't, you know, I don't know what 296 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: I expected, but there were mothers and daughters primarily, and 297 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: sensitive dudes. They were though, so sweet, and the whole time, 298 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: even picking up the airport, I was just like, oh, Mike, 299 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm oh my god. 300 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 2: And then when I got to the hotel, it was 301 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: the day for my autograph signing, and I I said 302 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: to the person who runs the thing. I was like, 303 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna come to my table. Whatever, thank you for 304 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: paying me. And my had a line around the block 305 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: of people who were so sweet and funny and delightful 306 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: and excited by it. So Amy Palladino tapped into some 307 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: sort of zeitgeist poles between mothers and daughters, and in fact, 308 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 2: I was so moved by that experience. I wrote Amy 309 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: an email and I never heard back. Whatever, I don't care. 310 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: I just needed her to know that she wrote something 311 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: that stands the test of time, that isn't just words 312 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: on a page, that lifted up off of the television 313 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: screen into the hearts and minds of a whole bunch 314 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: of really cool people. And I felt like she should 315 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: know what she created because it was moving to see people. 316 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do these conventions and the fans show up 317 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: and they are as you describe, these are wonderful, sweet people. 318 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: It's a mother daughter celebration and they want to share 319 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: with you their feelings about the show and how it 320 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: helped their relationship and now they're great friends, and you know, 321 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: it was just it's wonderful. So how do you as 322 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: a mother now and almost a grandmother and we'll get 323 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: into that. How do you feel about Liz as a mom? 324 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: That's funny, Well, you know, I have been a mother 325 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety five, is when my oldest son was born. 326 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Prior to I have really had a career of playing 327 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: horrible mothers. I've sold babies for crack, I've I have 328 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: kidnapped babies. I've I've tied them up and beaten them. 329 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I have a career of playing archetypal horrible, 330 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: horrible mothers. So as a mother, playing those kinds of roles, 331 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: I always approach every character that I play with the 332 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: mindset that they are doing the best they can with 333 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 2: what they have. And you know, for for Liz, you know, 334 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: she I would say clearly was probably somebody a candidate 335 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: for medication for certainly ADHD, and she and Amy had 336 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: written that in the character. The character was all over 337 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: the place. You know, I talk about this, and then 338 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: I talk about that, and then I talk about this, 339 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: and that, I talk about that, and then you know, 340 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: maybe she was a drug addict, which you know, I 341 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: certainly have been sober thirty one years, but I certainly 342 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: can bring that to the table. So there's plenty of 343 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: the mom things that I can easily bring to the 344 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: table to use from my crappy mom characters. 345 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Has your daughter Ruby seen the show? 346 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not one of my biggest fans. No, so 347 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: she likes the show, I think pretty much up until 348 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: I come on and then she's like Cake. You know, 349 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: she's very sweet my daughter, But I think it's weird 350 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: for her to see me. I don't know, she's she's 351 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: not one of my biggests. 352 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: She doesn't want to see you that way or something 353 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: like that. 354 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. One time, here's a funny story. 355 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: One time somebody was watching a TV show and it 356 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: was a part I was on a show called cop 357 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: Rock where I sing a song and I trade my 358 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: baby for crack. And my son was about seven and 359 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: a half eight years old at the time, and the 360 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: neighbor friend was like, Jimmy, come to my mom's on 361 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: TV and he comes in sees me sing this song 362 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: then trade my baby for crack, and he just was 363 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: like it was that me. Oh they came and I 364 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: was like, no, no, no, that was just acting acting. 365 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. You should have gotten Stephen Botchko on the 366 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: line and said, talk to my daughter tell him it's 367 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: your fault. You know you wrote it. We just discussed 368 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: cop Rock in the last episode because it was a 369 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: reference in the last episode because they had a night 370 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: where they ate all this junk food and they were 371 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: going to watch cop cop Rock Marathon, Laurela, Laura and Laurela. 372 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: What a show, what a concept, right little ahead of 373 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: its time. When't you say. 374 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: It's a drama musical? Yeah, no, it was great fun. 375 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: I love doing com. 376 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it was. 377 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: I've had a good run, you know. Gilmore Girls was fun. 378 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: We had a good time. I mean I felt like 379 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: at closet of my house, I've thoroughly enjoyed doing that show. 380 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I can't I can't have you on and not talk 381 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: about Patrick Swayzey. I cannot do it because you know 382 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: you did Roadhouse with him. You know, you did one 383 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: of the big movies of his career and one of 384 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: the big movies of your career as well. You were 385 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: great in it. And I did a film. I played 386 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: a minor role. I worked a ton of days in 387 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: a minor role in Martha Coolidge did a film with 388 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: Patrick in the lead and Mary Elizabeth Bestor Antonio as 389 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: a married woman living in the nineteen fifties suburbs of 390 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: outside of New York. It was called Three Wishes, and 391 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Patrick played this sort of mysterious traveler, stranger kind of 392 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: a guy, obviously a World War Two vet who was, 393 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, getting very spiritual and very centered, and he 394 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: showed up in town and really affected people's lives and 395 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: affected her life and her marriage and the whole thing. 396 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: And I had the opportunity to see him work and 397 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: to be on set while he was working, and he 398 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: stayed in character pretty much the whole time as this 399 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: sort of you know, this centered, balanced, mysterious guy. And 400 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: we had lunch a couple of times, and I asked 401 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: him about the career, and he was just so generous 402 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: and so lovely, and it it I wasn't thinking at 403 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: that point of leaving the business, but it was. You know, 404 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: it's a hard road. You know. It's not everybody can 405 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: just step into the business and all of a sudden 406 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: have success, you know how that is. It's just it 407 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: takes a while. So I was struggling along and he 408 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: kept me. He just said, keep your head down and 409 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: keep grinding, and you're gonna get there, you know. And 410 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: he took. But the thing that impressed me so much, 411 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: a star of that stature took the time to talk 412 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: and actually have lunch with some little nobody in the cast. 413 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: I didn't matter, my role didn't matter, it was all 414 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: background stuff, and he just just what a lovely guy. 415 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: What was your experience like with him? 416 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 2: Yes, he's absolutely lovely and you know in Roadhouse he 417 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: played a great dancer, super hot Texas, tough guy, heart 418 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: of gold, you know. And I think so that apple 419 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: didn't fall far from the tree. He's a lot like that, 420 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: you know, a lot like his characters. So I did 421 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: not see him do that, you know, staying in character thing. 422 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: I say that, you know, you have a lot of 423 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: similar qualities that Patrick has, So it doesn't surprise me. 424 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: Again back if I circle back to they cast Gilmore girls, well, 425 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: when they cast Michael DeLuise to play my husband, because 426 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: he's my cup of tea, So it doesn't surprise me 427 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: that Patrick would find you interesting and worth his time 428 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: to seek out a little bit of a friendship have 429 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: some lunch with you. Interestingly, I would imagine he's a 430 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: little older than you are, but you two would have 431 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: occupied a similar space in like had he not blown 432 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: up into such a huge star. You know, there wouldn't 433 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: have been this huge Like you were just a little 434 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: guy on the set and he was a big movie star. 435 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: I think that if he were guesting on The Gilmore Girls, 436 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: the two of you would probably have been friends. That 437 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me, because there's a you have a similar 438 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: vibe and energy. I think Patrick. One of the things 439 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: that I do is I play a kid's sister in 440 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: terms of the set politics. That's just my default position, 441 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: my super technique. So on a set that was driven 442 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: by testosterone. That set was about sex, drugs, and rock 443 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: and roll, no question if you want to know about 444 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: you know, decadent Hollywood. That movie because sex, drugs and 445 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: rock and roll, pokers, guns, cocaine, alcohol shenanigans, and I 446 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: love that I have one of those in my uh, 447 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: in my memory. I hope I never lose my mind 448 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: and forget about that because it was extraordinary and a blast. However, 449 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: that guy did not I that I was aware of, 450 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 2: and I partied with everybody the whole time because I 451 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: was still drinking and doing drugs back then. You know, 452 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: like I said, I've been sober thirty one years, but 453 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 2: he he was true to his wife. He has was 454 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: very principled. He was quick to laugh, generous to me. 455 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: But again he I assumed roll a kid's sister kind 456 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: of thing with that guy, and with with with Joel 457 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: silver To, who's a Hollywood mogul guy. I found all 458 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: of those guys really very charming and enchanting and I 459 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: had a blast. 460 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: So that that was eight That was in the eighties, right, 461 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: that was late eighties. What mid eighties? Right, Yeah, I 462 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: don't know. 463 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got sober ninety one, so I was not 464 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: sober when I. 465 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's heard. I've heard a lot of stories about 466 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: mid eighties cocaine fueled sets. 467 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the craft service person is the coke dealer, right. 468 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: A little different now. 469 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, now it's spent. I mean, I find 470 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: it very moving to work on a set now in 471 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: terms of the doors that have opened for so many 472 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: different kinds of people, diversity. I mean, it's just it's 473 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: so different than it was in the eighties, where the 474 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: doors were locked, that locked a whole bunch of people 475 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: out get to play, And now that's not the case. 476 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: And it's quite lovely and moving to me to have 477 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: to really be able to see what it was like 478 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: and what it's like now. And it's great now. I 479 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: worked more, you know, I kind of aged out. I'm like, 480 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: I can't be the mom of teenagers anymore. I don't know, 481 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: I just don't. I feel like I was. 482 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: Well, you're going to be a grandmother. Tells about that. 483 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh my son, my oldest kid. He's twenty eight. He 484 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: married a tremendous person, this girl, Brianna. I love them, 485 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: and uh, they're gonna have a baby Lana. They're naming 486 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: her and I'm so tickled. I cannot wait. Did you 487 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: end up getting married and having kids or no? 488 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Sure? Yeah. I have a nine year old boy. 489 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: He just turned nine. 490 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh nice. Oh that's so sweet. 491 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very sweet. 492 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: He's so happy because you did not have kids. 493 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: When no, No, I was with the same girl, same woman. Nice. Yeah, 494 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: we've been together since two thousand. Oh yeah. Yeah. We 495 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: have a beautiful boy, Nicholas, and he's just the joy 496 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: of our life. And you know, I miss him when 497 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: he goes to school, you know what I mean. 498 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: That's so sweet. 499 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 500 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Every thing I always say is like the most wonderful, fabulous, hideous, 501 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: horrific thing I've ever embarked upon. Yeah, because it's rough. Well, 502 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: you got a nine year old, they wake up and 503 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: they're thirteen years It gets harry, but then they come 504 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: out of it like now my life seventeen and he's fantastic. 505 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: We're looking at schools and yeah, collegen, you know, it's 506 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: just it's I wouldn't trade it for anything, but not 507 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: it's no. 508 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: I know, another couple of years, I know it's gonna 509 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: get dicey, but. 510 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: He still likes you right now, so that's good. You 511 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: got to enjoy it. 512 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. And I know there's going to 513 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: be that time when the rebellion comes. Ah, it's gonna 514 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: be hard. 515 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: It's like what happened to my baby? 516 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it is, I know, I know. But what are 517 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: you working on now? You're working on anything now? Yeah? 518 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote a script. I like to write stories. 519 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: I wrote a script and I am at the moment. 520 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: I did a zoom read through and I'm editing it 521 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: together because I feel like I have been bumping into 522 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: walls about trying to get people to read my script. 523 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: So now I can get actors to do read throughs 524 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: because I'm friends with actors, but to get to that 525 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: next level to get financing. I feel like I have 526 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: to I don't know, I have to do a little 527 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: put some effort into presenting something just to get them 528 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: to turn the page, you know, because I say, oh, well, 529 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: you read my script, and I don't believe it gets read. 530 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: So that's frustrating. But I very much am enjoying the process. 531 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: I also teach acting for the camera at cal Arts 532 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh wow, which I wow, really enjoy and I taught 533 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: at UCSB acting for the for the camera. I did, 534 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: like an intensive showbiz thing ATSB, and I've taught. I 535 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: went away for a year and taught at a school 536 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: called Savannah College of Art and Design SCAD in Savannah. 537 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: I realized that I can't be away from my family. 538 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: I broke, right, So I did. I satisfied my year contract. 539 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: I was a full time professor there, and then I 540 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: was like, I can't do it. I gotta be broke. 541 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: If that's what the case is, I'm going to be 542 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: broken and be with my husband and my kids. 543 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: Right right right. But cal Arts that's a big deal 544 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of place. 545 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: It is a big deal, and the students are freaking amazing, 546 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: are so talented. Wait, many times I'll see them. They'll 547 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: do a scene in front of the camera and I'll 548 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, well I got nothing that was stupid. 549 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: Next that was to do that, And you'll be fine. 550 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: It ain't You're good to go. Thanks for playing. 551 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, talented kids, Well. 552 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: Good for them. I wish them all the best. All right, 553 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: We're going to do a little section here called rapid fire. 554 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily fast, we just call it rapid fire. 555 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why we ever called it rap I 556 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: think I used to do it quickly and then fans 557 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: would write and say, could you slow it down? We 558 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: don't understand what's going on. So I'm going to ask 559 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: you a series of Gilmore related questions and just answer 560 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: them at your leisure. Okay, okay, and here I go. 561 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: How do you like your coffee? 562 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: You mean this for the like related to my character? 563 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: No, to you, to me as Kathleen. 564 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: Not my character, because I'm like, I don't remember the 565 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: character liked your coffee? I like my coffee. I'm picky 566 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: about it because I don't you know, I do caffeine 567 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: like crazy. So I have like a coffee bean of 568 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: the month. I'm in a coffee bean of the month. Club. 569 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: So I like a brown bean if it's too I 570 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: don't like black, greasy French rust. I'm a Kona kind 571 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: of brown bean and teleg kind of bean. I have 572 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: a grinder. I steam my milk, and my husband and 573 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 2: I sit out on our veranda and we look out 574 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: on the San Fernando Valley and I drink you know, 575 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: I drink my coffee and read my book there. That's 576 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: how I like my coffee. 577 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: Have you binged the entire Gilmore Girls series? 578 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: No, I don't like to watch myself. I see when 579 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: I see myself on TV, I see like a chin. 580 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 2: She's a long chin, a big fat butt and a high, 581 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: squeaky voice. And I just see, like I could blur 582 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: my swirly eyes watching a chin on a butt floating 583 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: around me. No, so I do not watch myself. So no, 584 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: like I don't watch myself. 585 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have that in common. I can. You know 586 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: I started this podcast based on I've never seen the 587 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: show for that very reason. You know, I do not 588 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: want to watch what I do. But now it's you know, 589 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: it's twenty three years removed. I can. I can kind 590 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: of deal with it because it's like a different person. 591 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: It's like I you know, I vaguely remember that guy. 592 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Are you team Logan, Team Jess or 593 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: Team Dean? I think we know? Yes, Yeah, there you go? 594 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: And uh, what would you order at Luke's diner? 595 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: Oh, grilled cheese sandwich like the Luke Steiner would make 596 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: the perfect grilled cheese sandwich and probably cup of coffee 597 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: and h and I do a side salad with the 598 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 2: probably ranch dressing. 599 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Harvard or Yale? 600 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yale because of drama. 601 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, uh sure yes. Luke's nickname in high school 602 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: was Butch. What's your nickname the character? No you Kathleen? 603 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: Oh well, I went by Kathy for years and I've 604 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: been called like will beIN high cath Mm Kathy, I'm 605 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: not very nothing really very funny. I can't think of anything. 606 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: It's who would you? Who from Gilmore? Would you not 607 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: want to be stuck on a desert island with? 608 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: You know? I only worked with you and uh Belise 609 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: and you guys are nice Soulian. 610 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh jeez, I lose that fight. Best memory of Gilmore girls, Oh. 611 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: The wedding and being with you guys and everybody. 612 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: The wedding was just classic. I'm still trying to remember 613 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: that line that TJ said when he walked by. He 614 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: leaned in and said something really funny. Show your binge 615 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: watching right now. 616 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Oh the Gemstones are also the bear. 617 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: Okay cast member you texted most recently. 618 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't keep in touch with anyone. I think I 619 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: facetimed or not FaceTime. Facebook messaged Michael Delawis and his mom. 620 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: Passed, mm hmmm something in your life you are all 621 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: in on. 622 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: I like to write. I write right right, right right. 623 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: I get my novels, my plays, my movies. I write 624 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: like when everybody else is off doing whatever they do. 625 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm probably home in front of my computer writing my stuff. 626 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: Kathleen Wilhoyt, it has been a pleasure. Brilliant performances, Liz, 627 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: brilliant career. Keep it going. Thank you for your time. 628 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: This was really fun. The fans are going to love 629 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: this and keep on keeping on and and congratulations. 630 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: Then. 631 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's appropriate to congratulate you for 632 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: being your grandmother, but it's it's a great feeling that 633 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: must be. 634 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: It's been crazy. I mean I got a T shirt 635 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 2: that said my daughter in law's baby shower that says 636 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: somebody's fine ass Grandma. 637 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: You go, Kathleen, best of luck with everything, and we 638 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: will probably want to have you back on I got 639 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: a feeling this is going to get a big response 640 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: in the fan base anyway. 641 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: All the best, all right, all right, take care, all. 642 00:39:31,320 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: Right, take care. Hey, everybody, don't forget. Follow us on 643 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: Instagram at im all In Podcast, and email us at 644 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.