WEBVTT - All Eyes On Demetrius Shipp Jr! 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.560 From my arm radio Common Enemy contenderm with TV they 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:15.680 Pal Podcast Pal Hey Pal with Jared and Hey Pal, 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:21.160 Hey Pal, come Oistas. I don't know, just how are 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.480 you just keep going? I wanted you told me we're 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.520 gonna start this week off, you know, smooth, nice like, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.760 let's let's just go. Let's just go. Come o stasybian 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.920 you too. Oh see that was smooth. You know I 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.960 was gonna pull out, Yeah, I Devin Grade spannest. So 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.279 I want to talk to you about what do you 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:44.279 miss about? Obviously you just went serious I did. It's 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.920 about about normal life. What are things that you miss 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.560 about normal life? Because I'm gonna tell you what I 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.960 missed the most. Can I start with what I don't 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.760 miss about normal life? And that's hanging out with you. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:59.160 I mean, that's been a blessing. I'm so thankful. I'm 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.200 very thankful I have not had to hang out with you. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.720 I'm just kidding. Things that I miss I don't know. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.679 I miss, I miss sports, I miss going places. I 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.080 don't I don't know. I mean playing sports. By the way, Yeah, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.280 well going places is obviously, you know, probably number one 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.600 on the list we missed going places, But one of 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.720 the things that I really miss and I'm not even kidding. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.160 Is I miss uh Target runs? You've missed. I missed 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.120 going to Target. I missed going to tar j as 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.920 some people call it, what is your What do you 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.120 think that you love most about tar J? Well, I 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:29.680 haven't been able to do it in a long time 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.040 because you know, you and I suffer from the same 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.080 ailment of being single. But one of my favorite things 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.720 in life target with with a girlfriend. It's so much fun. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.480 But you haven't had one of those twenty years target 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.360 in twenty years. I mean, I've got a Oh you've 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.360 got a load of kid but I'm saying this is 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.280 something that you miss and I miss. Yeah, so this 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.880 is actually even outside of I thought we were talking 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.240 about the pandemic. No, I just missed going to target. Anything. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.280 If you go back to like, you know, broken Pal, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.760 I get it. But we've moved own from that, right, 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.600 we're trying to block that. We are trying, but um, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.240 I missed going to Target. And what's incredible about Target 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.640 is sometimes there's amazing stories that come out of Target. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.440 Sometimes there are amazing stories that come out of Target. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.400 Are you are you leading into our guests right now? 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.040 I think, and I'd like you to tell our audience 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.920 what I'm talking about. Pal. Well, look, I didn't know 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.320 that you were going to go there, but since you 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.080 went there, Yes, I missed target too. We all miss target. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.800 The only person who doesn't miss target, Dave with which 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.760 I wish our audience could see, would be the owner 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.560 of Walmart. Would be would be Kyle Tequila because we 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.079 know that with the way he dresses in that hair. Yeah, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.639 he wouldn't dare step into target me and you will 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.760 step into Target. He's going to like Jay Crew and 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:49.320 Tommy Hill figure and like all that. Um. Anyways, I 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.160 just want to go on to Kyle Rant. Yes, our 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.680 next guest. He uh, he did work at Target, which 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.400 is crazy. That's where he got found. He basically was 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.480 working at a Target and and uh and then that 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.560 is when he got approached and was talked about, you know, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.919 to go audition for this Tupac movie. By the way, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.480 you know what else is crazy about that? And by 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.760 the way, I was doing some some reading, you know 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.400 that Nicole Yokich. By the way, I know this seems 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.920 a little off topic, but the Center for the Denver Nuggets, Well, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.320 I'm just it's off topic because I thought you were 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.760 only at a doctor Seuss reading level, and that's why 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.800 it's off topic. Well, you said I was doing some 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.520 reading like you like, well, like you are. You are right, Dave. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.280 I found out that he was riding horses before. We 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.760 never played basketball, so that wasn't hard to read a 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.520 picture of a horse. I love it. No, no, no, 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.920 in all serious, Joker was a horse jockey. How crazy 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.440 is that? No, I'm being serious. Look, I was doing 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.080 some research and and at age ten, he played basketball 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.520 for the first time. He didn't like it. Okay, he 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.960 stopped playing basketball for like five years, and he just 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.880 and he starts riding horses. And then at fifteen, his 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.240 dad was like, are you sure you don't want to 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.000 play basketball? So he goes back and he says, before 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.920 I'm gonna play, I go and he goes and watches 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.560 all these YouTube clips of of Magic Johnson and sees 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.400 how Magic moves on the court and all this stuff, 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.400 and then he just started to play basketball. But it's 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.160 kind of crazy because Demetrius, like you were saying, you know, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.400 we were talking about target and and you're you know, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.720 your your long lost girlfriends or lack thereof that you 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.680 would go to targets with, you know, he he sort of. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.039 Demetrius started very late and you know, just kind of 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.120 got found in the target and Nicola Yokitchen started late 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:31.599 and got found on a horse. Amazing. I feel like 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.240 you don't like this story. Should we just get into 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.440 our guests? No? I I love the story, and let's 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.520 just let's just move on. Let's get to our guests. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.520 Um our next guest rose to fame in the two 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.920 thousand seventeen film All Eyes on Me, where he portrayed 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.480 Tupac as the film's lead character, and has absolutely been 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.880 on fire ever since. Uh since then. He has been 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.680 the antagonist in season one, in season two of the 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.600 highly talked about TV show All American, and Just How 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.960 a Movie Come Out, where he plays opposite Ethan Hawk, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.600 Terrence Howard, t I Wesley Snipes in Cutthroat City, directed 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.240 by Hey Pal guest Mr Rizza, Please give a Hey 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.039 Pal podcast, Welcome to Our Pal to meet your ship, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:16.680 Junior D. How are you doing? What's going on? I'm great? 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.320 Are you know what? That was very nice? Him down. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.719 Nobody ever asked us how we're doing. That's true. He's 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.240 a very well mannered young man. Thank you to Beatris. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.599 Thank you. I'm doing very well. How are you? You 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.600 know what? You know what de Beatris, I'm doing very 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.080 well too. Thank you very much for asking. I'm glad 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.080 to hear it. Man um So, d I know that 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.599 you've talked about your story a million times and we 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.280 can get into a little bit of it, of of 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.320 you being at a working at a target and and 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.600 like all that stuff. But what what Dave and I 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.520 were just talking about at the top of the show is, uh, 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:56.320 you know, like Nicola Yokich who plays for the Denver Nuggets, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.000 he didn't really start playing basketball till he was fifteen. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.880 And we were talking about how like when he he 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.720 was actually uh racing horses, right, Dave, believe it or not, 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.360 it was racing horse. He was I don't know what 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.479 he was gonna do the horse. The horse wouldn't have lasted, 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:19.800 but he was racing. It really shock being a jockey, like, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.520 come on the horse. It's very it's very true. And 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.120 we were talking about how like what he decided to 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.760 do when he picked up basketball fifteam was he he 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.960 was just obsessive about watching Magic Johnson, you know, YouTube 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.120 clips and how magic. Johnson moved on the court and 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.320 and just just everything about magic until he until he 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.120 then felt good about it, and then he went on 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.719 the court and started applying those moves. So our question 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.320 for you is, look, you weren't acting right, like you 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.840 weren't in classes. You didn't really have any aspirations at 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.479 first about it, and then all of a sudden you're 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.680 just thrust it into the world of Hey, you have 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.920 to now go an audition for Tupac, which you and 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.400 which you then you know, eventually get And so when 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.080 you get it, what did you decide to do to 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.480 prepare for Did you watch a bunch of Tupac videos 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.920 or did you decide to I'm gonna go watch a 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.160 bunch of acting videos first and then to Tupac. Can 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.520 you take us through that process? In preparation, I would 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.200 stand I would sit side by side the TV and 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:27.280 record myself doing the interviews, various interviews from Tupac. I 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.320 would write them down. I would I would listen to 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.320 him a bunch of times, write it down, and then 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.720 once I felt comfortable with you know the words, I 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.200 was sitting next to the TV and record myself doing 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.440 the interviews along with him, And what that was able 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.040 to give me was I wanted to be able to 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.760 get the cadences and how he spoke, you know, down 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.560 and then I also wanted to be able to get 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.800 the hand gestures and movements and you know, just different 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.800 nuances that he had. But that's that's what I started 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.040 doing it through, like once the guy to beginning serious, Yeah, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.400 that's what's So did you decide to did you know, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.520 did you just to then go watch any any films 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.760 or anything like where you wanted to study different kinks 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.600 or different you know, movements from different actors or did 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.440 you just stick to Pok since you were about to 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.120 play Tupac on the biggest stage. Well, yeah, because it 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.280 was about poct, I just stuck within him, you know 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:17.840 what I'm saying, just just all of his stuff. I 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.920 think I might have watched some of his movies, um, 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.960 but that was about as far as I went in 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.560 terms of like the acting. But it's just it was 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.920 such huge shoes to feel that I wanted to make 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.080 sure I had every you know, nuance down and I 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.160 possibly could. Was there a particular time where you kind 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.640 of it clicked for you and you knew, like I 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.160 got this down, like I am this guy, Like, was 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:47.520 there a moment when that happened for you? Um? Yeah. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.000 I think when I did one of the interviews, it 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.640 was like this Christmas interview, So that was the one 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.240 that I was really proud of. Um, it's like a 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.760 nine eight nine minute interview. Is I condensed it to 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:04.480 me like six? Um? But I got it down and 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:09.360 I watched it and I'm like, yeah, I'm there. The 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.319 more importantly, Dave. More importantly, Dave did he ride any 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.600 horses in the process? Was there any horse riding involved 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:23.120 any Kentucky Derby Preakness? You know, I don't know if 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.440 I could see uh, Demetrius ship Junior as a horse jockey, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.640 It's it's possible. I mean I couldn't see Nicole Yoki 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.080 as a as a disc jockey either, So I don't 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:37.079 know what as a disc jockey you as a DJ. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.560 I haven't heard that word. How old are you? I 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:46.280 haven't heard the word disc jockey in fifty years. Precocious? 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.760 You are very precocious. Don't go anywhere, Hey, Pam will 0:09:50.760 --> 0:10:00.600 be right back after a word from horse sponsors, all right, now, 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.079 d Oftentimes, when athletes go on the road for a game, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.080 they're they're the bad guy, the crowds rooting against them, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.120 and when they come home in front of the home crowd, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.640 they're the hero, their beloved. Now you've done both in acting, 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.679 where you've been the bad guy like you are on 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.839 All American, and you've been the good guy. You know 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.160 where you your Tupac. So tell us about that, the 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.640 differences in all the different perspectives of what that brings 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.160 U and which one, which one do you like more? D? 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.200 Do you like like in our analogy? Do you like 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.840 home games more? Or do you like road games more? 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.640 In my experience, now I love the tyrone. You love 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.920 the bad guy. He loves going on the road and 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:45.440 going into someone else's stadium and pissing off the crowd. Okay, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:50.560 D's it's a little, it's it's it's more to it 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.439 than just that. Though for me, honestly, um, it comes 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.760 because one being playing that. I play such an iconic 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.000 figure in Tupac, such a huge role, right. Um. The 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.840 big looming question, even prior to me going in, and 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.000 even more so after I got done with that role, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.520 you know, was how do I come out of that? 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.760 How do I not become pigeonholed, and how do I 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.040 not only just be known as a guy that played 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.960 Tupac um. And I don't think anybody had the answer 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.160 to that, like my agings at the time, my manager's friends, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.000 nobody really had a direct line up. This is what 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.640 we do to make sure that you don't become just 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.439 that guy, right, And everything just played out in perfect 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.800 timing and harmony. And you know, I'm blessed that I 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.120 got All American and that it went and did very 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:40.480 very good on Netflix two seasons straight. Um. And that's 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.520 where it was like, I'm not even I'm no longer 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.440 like Tupac, like people will see me as Tupac or 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.560 people will see me as Tyrone and not even though 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.440 that I played Tupac, And that's amazing. And so for me, 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.040 I was like, uh, I love it. And also, you know, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.040 along the lines of what you're what we're saying in 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.520 the analogy, UM, people are when they seem there like 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.280 I hate you Tyrone, like I can't stand right. Yeah, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.280 but that but I love that because that actually, you know, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.560 that's more pinpoints to just me. I didn't have to 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.520 portray anybody else. That's just a character that I that 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.520 I brought to life in my own way, with my 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.360 own flavor and you know, my own abilities. Um, and 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.480 for that to resonate with people where it's like, you know, wow, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.960 I really don't like you. Seeing you in person makes 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.440 me uncomfortable. Seeing you in person scares me or whatever. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.480 Like my kids, my daughter when I go to their school, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.600 like some of the kids are like scared of me 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.840 because they've watched All American and they love me a tyrone. Yeah. Well, 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.560 that's also a testament to your talent and to your 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.480 ability that you could play two such different characters, you 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.559 know what I mean. And it says a lot about 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.560 your ability as an actor that you could do either or, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.520 which is great. So so what about so d what 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.480 about if we just handed you a script? Right? You 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.720 love this script and there's a protest agonist and an antagonist, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.040 and you can either play the lead guy, the hero, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.360 or there's just as much as meet with the bad 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.439 guy in the villain. So it's a two hander. Who 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.320 who is to meet your ship? Gonna go for the 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.680 good guy or the bad guy? I'm always go for 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:22.120 the good guy. That I have to be, okay, because 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.400 you know, when I watch movies you know, you're rooting 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.640 for the I want the character that people are going 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.880 to root for, you know what I mean. And then 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.520 you it's a little different sentiment and a little bit 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.120 of a different connection when you're rooting and you're hoping 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.160 and it's like, oh man, alright, you you've been in 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.000 that situation and it's something relatable that you can you know, um, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.320 draw too for your own life. Uh, it's it's I 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.599 definitely would like to go for that because that's ultimately 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.720 my I don't know if this is a question, but 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.720 a dream role of mine is to play something along 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.880 the lines of like, you know, the guy that people earned, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.720 um pursuit of happiness. You know, that's the role that 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.200 I want to I really would like to have one day. Yeah. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.000 That's a I mean it's a great that's a great 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.760 comp Yeah, um so. D So, our next question for 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:12.400 you is you came onto the scene with all eyes 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.400 on me, and that was kind of like making it 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.600 to the big leagues, Right, you're here, then you then 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.280 you get you know, all American and that's that's sort 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.760 of like you know the playoffs that we like to 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.800 say as you made it, you made it to the playoffs, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.080 and in between you went and did a movie called 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:33.400 Cutthroat City, and you were opposite these this all star cast, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.800 right like t I and Terrence Howard and Ethan Hawk 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.040 and Wesley Snips and Shamik More and just I mean, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.960 you know, it goes it goes on and on and on, 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.560 and that kind of feels like in in in our world, 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.600 like the All Star Game, right when you get on 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.160 a set and you're looking all around you and it's 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.040 all these stars and it feels like an All Star game. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.360 Do you just take a deep breath and you you 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.840 kind of like soak it in and go, Okay, I 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.120 I've made it. Like now I finally realized like I'm 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.880 here and I'm here to stay, or like, what what 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.840 was that feeling like for you to be surrounded by 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.120 by so many people you probably grew up even watching 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:16.360 um that feeling was crazy. And I just actually tweeted 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.560 something like that, like I said, I mean, I'm really 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.360 alongside Ethan Hawk and Wesley's Knights in the movie where 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.000 I grew up watching these guys, like Training Days one 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:31.640 of my all time favorite movies. UM So coming up 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:36.520 and being amongst that it is like Wow, I have actually, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:41.200 you know, I made something happening life, Like I've done 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.240 something that a lot of people won't even you know, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.000 we'll dream about, we'll never get the opportunity to do. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.880 So it's like really like a surreal, um just amazing, blessing, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.640 blessed feeling. Is you know how I was. Some of 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.080 the seems like it seems like you feel like having 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.160 that opportunity and working with those type of individuals is 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.120 an actor. That's really when you were like, okay, like 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.840 I'm really here. Even though you did you know, the 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.440 amazing iconic role as Tupac, and even though you did 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.160 the successful show All American, it seems to me listen 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.520 to you talk about it, that was a big moment 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.640 for you where you're like, wow, like now I've actually 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.520 really really made it, you know what I mean, Well, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.080 that's what I was. That's what I was gonna say. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.280 It's like it feels like, wow, I have arrived. Like 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.680 when when we talk to these athletes, right, they're like, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.480 yeah I got drafted right, or yeah we made the 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.240 playoffs my second year. But but when they when they 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.280 finally made the All Star Game, they're looking start and 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.480 they're going like Wow, these are my these really are 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.080 my peers. Now that's when they're like, I've I've arrived, 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.120 Like and you have arrived. Yeah, I definitely feel like 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.560 that that last scene with myself and Eathan Hawking cut 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:53.240 through city, I'm like, yeah, almost, like yeah, it's gonna 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.120 you can't really you know, it's it's not areating anyway, 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.640 but it's like, yo, that's you know, I've I've I've 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.920 definitely come a long way, you know what I mean. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.480 And uh, it's like again, not a lot of people 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.240 are going to be able to experience that, you know 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.439 that just that full three sixty from watching you know 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.240 Ethan Hawk is a child, to being alongside him and 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.439 then just soaking the game and then just watching him 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.040 and then all yet the whole time drawing inspiration from it, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.919 you know, because now I looked at it when I 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.120 watched it recently, I'm like, I want to be able 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.560 to have that type of career, you know where it's like, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.960 you know, they are household names that they have had 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.080 these fans of careers from, you know, however far back 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.960 they go to even right now, like they're still doing 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.880 it at the highest level. Um, and that's amazing. So 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.560 it's more inspiration now to like really be the best 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.080 that I can be in the crab every time I'm 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.399 to play like a younger athlete that they get to 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.720 play against the players that they looked up to, they're 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.200 able to take something from that and learn from them. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.720 So you being in those situations with Ethan, with Wesley, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.280 what were you able to observe and kind of learn 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.119 and take from them? Watching them, you know, work on 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:06.520 their craft. Um, there's power and just taking your time. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.159 That's the one thing I watched t I or not 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.520 tis not to just credit to your but Um Terrence. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.119 I watched Terence closely. I watched Um Wesley closely, and 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:23.919 I watched Ethan of course, and they were very comfortable 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.280 in what they were doing, and they were just taking 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.000 their time. They were owning all of what they were 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.880 doing and not owning it in terms of like just 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.160 trying to get it done. But it was like, this 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.760 is mine, this is my time, and I'm taking all 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.080 the time that I need to get it right, you 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.000 know what I mean, not to get it right, but 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.199 just to feel it and be any So Um, and 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.840 then when you watch it and then they I'm like Wow, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.280 it's so powerful to watch them take their time, and 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.679 it's it's that thing. And I think Jared and I 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.879 spoke about this before, uh with Denzel and how like 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.600 he doesn't really rush his scenes. He takes a lot 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.800 of time in his scenes. But that's what's so powerful 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.320 about all of his performances is that he takes his time. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.240 He owns it, it's his and you feel it. Yeah, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:13.760 And so that's what I took from it, is like 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.400 every time I want to, you know, on on set now, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.719 I want to make sure that I'm owning my character 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:23.920 and that I'm not just trying to act, but I'm 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.080 really just taking my time owning it and just putting 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.879 it together, filling it out. Well, it sounds like it 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.359 raises the level of professionalism too, because I know, like 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.040 everyone I've spoken to you that's worked with Denzel, they're 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.439 like the one thing about working with Denzel is I 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.480 have to be prepared. I have to have my ship 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.560 together because I know when he steps out on set, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.520 he's he's he's a pro, he's ready to go, you 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.359 know what I mean. So there's no opportunity screw up 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.400 or mess around, Like you have to bring your a game, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.359 but you certain you are right to meet yours on 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.359 taking your time, and we probably, you know, the younger actors, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.560 they don't really know that, you know. And and the 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.840 reason that these actors become that and know that is 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.520 because they spend more time on set and they realized 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.760 the process. You know. I remember when I first made 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.600 my my short film. I was on set thinking like, ah, 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.520 this isn't gonna work and this is and then I 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.760 get in there in the editing room with Kyle, who's 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.520 just a wizard in there, and he's like, oh, I 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.800 can do this, this and this, and I'm like, oh yeah, 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.960 Like I don't have to perfect it on set, right, 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.320 Like you can do your thing right. You can take 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.760 your deep breath, take your time. You know, it doesn't 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.440 have to all be beat beat for beat, beat perfect 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.680 and then they can cut it up in the and 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:32.879 you just have to make sure that the performance is 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.679 there and the emotion is there, and however long that 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:37.639 takes you to get there, you're you're you're right. It's 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.480 like taking your time with so much power in that. Yeah. 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.920 They I didn't watch the Russia scene at all, and 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.639