1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Bill Courtney with an army and normal folks. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: And we continue now with part two of our conversation 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: with Don Wetrick. Right after these brief messages from our 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: general sponsors. 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Well, it just dawned me when you're telling about this 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: awesome organization, Society of Entrepreneurs here in Memphis. That was 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: my rule three. Your rule three was my rule three. 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: It is the same rules. It's one of the reasons 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: why last, because we had three rules and they're not 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: that dissimilar. 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, it's your real three. And I think 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: that that was also when students, especially it's current generation 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Z is awesome. I really like gen Z. They really 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: if you point them in the right direction and you 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: can kind of bring back things to first principles. They 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: do want to make a difference, and or sometimes in 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: the process of making a difference, they realize, oh what 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: am I fighting for here upon further inspection, this is 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: maybe not what I thought. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Well, and you are more apt to help other people 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: and engage in society and places that need help when 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: you're engaged in things that actually interest you. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah everything, yeah, yeah, me duh. Although I will say 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: so I was having this debate about like some classes 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: you have to take in college. Easily one of my 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: favorite classes I never would have taken unless I had 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: to get a certain credit, and I took World Mythologies 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: and Religions, and it was there I learned about Joseph 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: Campbell and my life has forever changed. 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna have to enlighten me. 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Oh man, you don't, oh oh, oh man. We're going 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: to become friends now for life. Joseph Campbell was a 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 2: historian and literally kind of an I won't say authority figure, 34 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: but like he was very acknowledged and understanding of world 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: mythologies from endig myths to you know, Grecianity and Christianity 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: and everything else like religions and mythologies, and he really 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: found a lot of commonalities. The Hero's Journey is the 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: same movie we've seen again and again and again, whether that. 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: Luke Scott Walker's with the protagonist Darth Rader. 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: And they have to leave their home to go to 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: a new world, fail die, get reborn again, and even 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: when they win, that's not good enough. They have to 43 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: go back home to bring a new reality. I do 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: have to get into what an open source learning was 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: because this is where the magic started happen, Like from 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: a public sense, kids are starting to work on things. 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: Not everyone, by the way, I'm not going to glorify 48 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: it this. There are some kids that just. 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Are slackers and everything well I mean, or there kids 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: that are like just want an a yes. 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely right, absolutely, and and God bless those kids. I 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: loved him, but they had a hard time, like I 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: don't understand why I have to do this, and I'm like, 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: what do you want to do? And I want to 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: get an aad. 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: I got it. Which is interesting as you say that, 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: because you think about in high school, we all went 58 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: to school with them, those ultra unbelievable straight a kids 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: that at forty five you would have thought in high 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: school were going to be the most successful kids in 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: the world that are just doing okay. And then that 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: weird creative kid who didn't make really good grades, who 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: is the one that invented something and is mega rich. 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: It's the same thing in your class. Really, it's just 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: exploring it earlier. 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Learning how to fail in a place where failure is 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: not normally accepted. So that's interesting, And so I do 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: have to back up and tell this last story. So 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: I had a young lady, super nice and she had 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: straight a's and it was getting close to great time. 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: And again every two weeks we would go over your 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: process and we would assign ourselves a grade. And she 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: was honest with herself. I don't know C or B. 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: She was going through the motions. Ever really nothing was 75 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: ever dawning on her. So she would say, this is 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: what I worked on and I don't know. I guess 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: this is blah blah blah and super sweet girl. And 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: so we had close to the last conference of the 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: semester and she was starting to like try not to cry, 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's wrong. She's like, mister chick, like 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: this is the only bee I have. And I go, oh, okay. 82 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: She's like, well, like, what can I do to prove 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: to get an A? I said, do the things that 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: you feel compelled to do and grow on them. I don't. 85 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, And I go, do you want 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: an A? She's ah, I said, then I'll give you that. 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: Now I feel guilty, I said, listen, I don't want 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: this to hurt your GPA if that's what you really 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: want to go for, But my heart tells me that 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: I hope someday you work on the things that you 91 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: want to do, not just for the sake of compliance. 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: And again, sweet girl, but I might as well have 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: said it in another language. She didn't speak, and when 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: I said and she did, she felt like genuinely bad. 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, don't worry about I'll give you a name now. Ethically, 96 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: like you could say, oh, she didn't deserve it, but like, 97 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: the whole point was for you to grow. And she 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: and by the way, she didn't didn't take the class. 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: It's in the semester. I mean that was it was 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: supposed to be a two semester classes. I'm just gonna 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: part ways. Absolutely, I don't want to get in the 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: kids away. She wanted to get into the best school 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: possible and to be would have heard things. But just 104 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: it hurt my heart that instead of like using the 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: class to do the things that you want to do, 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: she still just played the game up. I just want 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: a good grade. Well, it also speaks to the fact 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: that some people for their own prison. Yes, it's exactly right. 109 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: So people do prefer their own prison. It's better to 110 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: be in prison than experience the unknown. Yeah, I shouldn't 111 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: have compared school to prison. 112 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: No, it's not, but it's it's it it It explains 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: the difference in people that are. 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: Systemized first creative thinkers afraid to step out. Yeah yeah yeah. 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: So along those lines of creativity and it's in here. 116 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: I think it's before we and then we're stepping on. 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting the perspective on a twentieth 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: century requirement for earning and keeping and advancing in a 119 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: job or profession versus twenty first century kind of model. 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: I think everybody knew where they were when they first 122 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: discovered and tried on chat GPT. Okay, I started doing 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: things like I actually had a podcast and I was 124 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: doing things live and I was on with my best 125 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: friend Jamal, and like I was typing in things about 126 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: myself and Jamal and it was spinning out, like information 127 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: about me. I said, create a short story about Don Jamal, 128 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: and like it just was figuring out. It was shocking. 129 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: The jobs of the future allow on discernment and creativity, 130 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: and there are so many things that are shockingly moving 131 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: fast that there's there's no class right now, Like teachers 132 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: right now figuring out in real time how how to 133 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: detect an essay written by chat Cheapt. Ironically enough, I'm 134 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: asking like why did you make them write that essay? 135 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: And like because like they can tell me what I 136 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: want to hear, which is normally what you have in 137 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: an essay, like this is what you're supposed to take 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: from it. But if they could have chat Cheapt do 139 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: that for them, they're asking the like, really the students past, 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm just going to jump to this hoop, like 141 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: are you solving a problem? Is I think what some 142 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: of the students are going for and that, like you know, 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: you want me to write an essay about this, I will, 144 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: and they put in a chat scheept and it's done well. 145 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of merit for you to 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: use your own creativity. This is very similar to like 147 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: don't use a calculator on this math problem. Why it's 148 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: there for a reason. It's a great tool. How to 149 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: use it is something different. So I think a lot 150 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: of things we're just learning in real time, and there's 151 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: going to be so many jobs unbelievably disrupted. Do we 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: have to figure it out? 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I think that's interesting because I'm sitting here thinking about 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: like AI as the new big thing in business, right. Yep, 155 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm in the lumber business and I'm about to spend 156 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: an inordant amount of money to integrate AI into my systems. 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: But if you're learning AI today in school as a freshman, 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: by the time you're three years which would be seven 159 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: years later into a job at an AI business, what 160 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: you learned is probably completely obsolete by them. Absolutely, And 161 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: that is that is completely different. It's just the information 162 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,479 Speaker 1: and the flow and the turnover of of information, creativity 163 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: and everything in the twenty first century. It's nothing like 164 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: from the nineteen sixties to the nineteen nineties, when you know, 165 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: we just didn't have that speed in manufacturing and in 166 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: creativity and all of that. And so what you're saying 167 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: is is we'd better be turning out students who are 168 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: autonomous and can be creative, or they're not going to 169 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: be prepared for the twenty first century marketplace. 170 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: Right. If they can use you learn how to use 171 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: that tool to adapt, then they may be onto something. 172 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: If you're saying I borrow you from using it. First 173 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: of all, the kids are going to use it, but 174 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: it's also like figuring out how to either be way 175 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: more productive. Although that's in itself a problem too. I like, 176 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm deeply, deeply, deeply concerned about a lot of this, 177 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: so I'm not trying to glamorize that AI as the solution. 178 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it could be. There's a lot of 179 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: things are going to be bad, and even on the 180 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: creative Like the creative side, I had two alumni of 181 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: Innovate within host a workshop and they're going through all 182 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: these different works that these different platforms and things you 183 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: can use. One of them is that it writes songs 184 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: for you. It's shocking. So we were messing around and 185 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: I said, okay, write a song and I was made 186 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: up something like in the style of thrash metal and 187 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: reggae fusion, writing about the rocky mountains and the beauty 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: in December. And the song it spit out was amazing, 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: Really fifteen seconds. That's scary. We kept messing around with it. 190 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: You could tell it now. Sometimes some of them have 191 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: like if you put in somebody specific, they're trying not 192 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: to do that now. So if you said, you know, 193 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: create a song that sounds like corn but it is 194 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: in the musical lyrical stylings of John Lennon and make 195 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: the you know, the chorus of the song say something 196 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: about Christmas in July and and like, but but it 197 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: does it. It's shocking. So I'm also I'm not trying 198 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: to take it too hard of a left turn here, 199 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: but like those creatives that know how people think and 200 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: feel can now write things instantly as opposed to somebody, 201 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: so like as opposed to somebody. This puts in a 202 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: general prompt. 203 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Some could argue, then it is even more important than 204 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: we have human beings that are keeping up with the creative. 205 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because humans are still humans, right and and and 206 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: a great this is why like prompt writers are going 207 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: to be a bigger thing. But eventually the AI is 208 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: also going to learn how to create its own good prompts. 209 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to say that like life is 210 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: starting to become like what is that Disney film Wally Wally? 211 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: Remember Wally. I'm like, I'm sorry to get a little 212 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: bit concerned here, but yes, but yes, there. 213 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: Because I can get it now. I didn't get that. 214 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get the relation until you said that, Yes. 215 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: Dation that just like flies around space and watches TV 216 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: because there's nothing else left to do except the entertainers. 217 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, so here's the weird thing. We've 218 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: heard all this all right, and then I read this. 219 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Donna has lectured across the US, Europe, South America, and 220 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: Africa about collaboration, social media use, and work environments that 221 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: enable innovation. Through his travel, he's worked with hundreds of 222 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs from Silicon Valley to Donna and seeks to bring 223 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: that entrepreneur mindset into classrooms. Don works with educator, students 224 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and entrepreneurs bring innovation and collaborate skills and education. Okay, 225 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like a guy teacher in high school, 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: So there was a a professional shift and it's time 227 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: to get to that. The other thing is all of 228 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: this is very cool, but you're a teacher, right, It 229 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: doesn't really fit yet the mold of an army of 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: normal folks, which is a guy who sees an area 231 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: need and fills it outside of what he does for 232 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: a living. And so we've given the background to set 233 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: up all of what's going up now with started up, 234 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: which is spelled start it up. 235 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: The ad is a little bit yeah, the startup mentality 236 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: is squeezing a little bit of the education. 237 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: She's a little bit of the education. Start education up, 238 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: start it Up. So tell me when you made the 239 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: fundamental shift from being a high school educator to what 240 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: you decided to do and what has led to all 241 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: of what I just said and the started Up foundation 242 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: and who are we serving? Yeah, what are we doing? 243 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: And how's it going? 244 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh man, thank you for asking that because it's yeah, 245 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: this is really important. 246 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Because it was certain faith and a risk your part. 247 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: You were leaving a job, yeah, and one I loved. 248 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: I think part of the origins of Started Up really 249 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: started with how we got attention from some people. So 250 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: again the meaning as you were still teaching, Yeah, we 251 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: started getting some press. Like one thing that really drove 252 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: me nuts is when we as educators go, the press 253 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: doesn't cover the good stuff. They only cover the bad stuff. 254 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: We'll call them you're slow news days and every now 255 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: and then, like student will do like that's cool, all right, 256 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: call the local affiliate. They may show up, they may not. 257 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: So I was a show boat for sure. I'm like, 258 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: you gotta go see what this kid did, right. I 259 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: was never afraid to call. But the open source learning 260 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: part is where I got crazy. So because I kind 261 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: of modeled it. The whole thing was based on Dan 262 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: Ping's Ted talk. So I was thinking, well, I should 263 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: call it. I didn't know that he's semi famous, right, 264 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: and the author world is a pretty big deal. So 265 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to call this guy and 266 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: tell him I want to start a class and maybe 267 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: maybe it'll help me. And I did, and he did 268 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: that's cool, and he's like, good for you. That's that's awesome. 269 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: And so as I was mentioned before, some of the 270 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: students were like telling me who these thought leaders were, 271 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: and let's call him now. I have to say I 272 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: was in the right place at the right time. This 273 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: is right when YouTube started to monetize. So sometimes these 274 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: people that are legendarily awesome YouTubers, like my favorite Zach King, 275 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: he was a sophomoe maybe a junior in college, and 276 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: he was calling in my class. Another guy, Chris Milk, 277 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: who had done all the music videos for like You 278 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: two and Kanye's call my video class. We're open sourcing 279 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: or learning. And maybe one of the most pivotal moments 280 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: was two things that just blew us away. I had 281 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: them read a section of Tim Ferris' is for Our 282 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: work Week, and I forget which chapter was, but basically 283 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: talked about he visited a college classroom, and he says, 284 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: who would you want to talk to? Who would you 285 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: want to work with? And I think he offered up 286 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: like a two thousand dollars bonus whoever could get to 287 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: that person, And he wrote in the book he's like, 288 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: no one even tried. 289 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I even try. 290 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, no one's going to respond to 291 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: me now. Mind you again, social media wasn't as big 292 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: as it was, but supposedly they try. So I'm having 293 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: the students read this and they go, I go, well, 294 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: who do you guys want to reach out to? And 295 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: they're like, let's try Tim Ferris. 296 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, we'll be right back. 297 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: So we get on Twitter and we started tweeting at 298 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: him nothing and I was like, ah, let's shoot somebody else. 299 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: And so a girl came out to me the next 300 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: day or two days later, she has I got an idea. 301 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: She says, how about we do this. She says, I'm 302 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: gonna get three other students and we're gonna like, look 303 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: really sad and you put hey at Tea Ferris, We're 304 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: so disappointed and sad that we're taking your advice and 305 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: you're not getting back with us. And so we're sitting 306 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: in class and I send it and we're like, this 307 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: is a kid who came up absolutely and this is 308 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: also the genius part of the class. I think there's 309 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: like twenty five thirty students in that class, so all 310 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: thirty of them retweet it, and so it's so it 311 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: gets bumped up. And I happened to I had a 312 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: lucky break, right, I had a blue check mark, and 313 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: so that also kind of gets helped too. And so 314 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: this is before you get to buy a check mark, 315 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: which I don't need more because I don't want to 316 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: buy it. But uh so all of a sudden, a 317 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: notification goes off DM dun Tim Ferris follows you. Oh 318 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: my gosh, guys, and the kids were like oh and 319 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, like twenty seconds later, Tim 320 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: dum DM from t Ferris, Haha, you got me. Let's 321 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: go ahead and schedule a skype tomorrow. 322 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: I love it now. 323 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: My kids were like, we can get to anybody our reach. 324 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: Thing I liked about these were kids that were fan 325 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: born on Tim Ferris. I would dare say, there's not 326 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: all the high schools like Tim Ferris. It's cool, but 327 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: that's the that's the culture we wanted to go for. 328 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, not Kim Kardashian. 329 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: Oh can I can we put a pin on that. 330 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you later about that whole 331 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: We'll put a pin on that, okay, and how it 332 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: relates to my daughter. So who's next? I mean, we 333 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: have Tim. He gave us two hours. Thank you Tim 334 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: Ferris for watching this. So kids were like, again, this 335 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: is like ten years ago, and they're like, Ninja, Let's 336 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: see if we can get a hold of Ninja. So 337 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: Ninja was a video game streamer and basically we send 338 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: out a request to him. I mean, he's got this 339 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 2: is at his height, and once again, all of a sudden, 340 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: he likes it, sends a video back to us responding, 341 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: and the kids just like, we can do anything. It is, 342 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: but it was that thing. 343 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: But how about that? How about a bunch of kids 344 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: in high school screaming we can do anything? Yeah, that's cool. 345 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: And so then they started like the intrigue of the 346 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: class was the draw. So then my kids got really 347 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: good at saying, hey, famous YouTuber or whoever they wanted 348 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: to connect with. Sometimes it was a CEO that I 349 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: had never heard of, and that's fine. It was in 350 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: their genre. I had this class where we're supposed to 351 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: connect and open source, are learning through really awesome people, 352 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: and you're that awesome person. Would you call into our 353 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: classroom or just set up a private Skype with me? 354 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: Now that if that doesn't touch your heart, I mean, 355 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: by the way, some people still either didn't respond to it, 356 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: Like we weren't batting one hundred percent, but we were. 357 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: We were hitting better than Ted Williams. 358 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: That's unreal. 359 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: And again, we're the right place at the right time. 360 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: This was early, this was when social media was a 361 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: little bit more wholesome. But you know, it's back to that. Hey, 362 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm just a kid like me and Joe Green signed 363 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: my jersey, right, it's I am a high school student 364 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: and my class is predicated on talking to you. Do 365 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: you want to help? Yeah, which is awesome absolutely, So 366 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: back to your question. Sorry, I had to take a 367 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: side step there. The States Innovation Chief Information Officer David 368 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: Roberts was with a group called the Indian Economic Development 369 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: Corporation IDC and he had heard and seen some things 370 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: that we had done your class in my class. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 371 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 2: And so he approached us and he says, hey, the 372 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: i DC has been kicking around this idea of wanting 373 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: to start a shark tank for kids for Indiana, and 374 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: I go, good luck, those are dumb, thank you what? 375 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for asking? Because I had seen things that 376 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: they were. They were speech competitions and they would say 377 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: something big, grandiose, like I'm going to cure world hunger 378 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: through an app that I don't know how to write, yeah, 379 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: or the most cliche thing, I want to start a 380 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: food truck even though I don't know why or what 381 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: the costs are. And I said, you know, I just 382 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't have time, and they go, what would you 383 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: do differently? And I go, probably make it a lot 384 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: more practical, and I'd like would have them solve smaller 385 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: problems because they can always learn how to scale up. 386 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: And they go help us out. So in year one 387 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: there's this thing called Innovate within Capital I n for 388 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Indiana and we had one hundred students that in year 389 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: one it was it was still a big idea of competition. 390 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: In year two they said, if you like, you know, 391 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: we'd like for you to like stand side side by 392 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: side with us. And in year three they go, hey, minutes, 393 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: it's yours. We think an educational thing should be ran 394 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: by an educator. And that's how started Up was born, 395 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: really with a great partnership through the States Chamber, I 396 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: mean the Commerce Secretary and David Roberts, and we ran 397 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: with it. And so year one it was one hundred 398 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: and now it's over three thousand. 399 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: What is it? 400 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: It is a pitch competition where you see a problem 401 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: as an opportunity and and for that reason, it is 402 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: all over the place. 403 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Which is, by the way, exactly what we talk about. 404 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: See a problem, view it as an opportunity and fill 405 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: the need. Yes, and that is exactly what you're doing. Kids, 406 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: So tell me stories. How long do you have. 407 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: I'll give you some of my favorites. Ok, I told 408 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: you this would this would be so one of my 409 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: I shouldn't play favorites, but here we are. I'll start 410 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: with the one that's sweet and wholesome. So in our career. 411 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: By the way, the first couple of years this was 412 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: for schools that were upper middle class, suburban so we 413 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: decided that if a kid from the inner city or 414 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: rural participated, they were stumped on the judge's first question, 415 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: which is usually what is your product market fit? What 416 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: is your market validation? What are you called? They can't 417 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: answer a question because they answer to the question. So 418 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: we put out curriculum and immediately inner city shoots up 419 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: matter Gary, Indiana, like just grew is our fastest area 420 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: of growth. Gary, which by the way, Gary is a 421 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: great city that is on the it's on the rebound. 422 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: That's good news. It is. 423 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: That's it is, it is. 424 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: I really I really didn't know that. 425 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: That. Shout out to our girls from iron Works. I 426 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: had two students that went through this and they end 427 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: up starting there. So they just graduated from Purdue and 428 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: they have a young entrepreneurial hub and Gary. Two twenty 429 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 2: two year old girls are doing destinations and kind of 430 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: dojos for start young startups. Iron Works love you see again, 431 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: I have a d D. They didn't have that term 432 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: when I was I'm fifty two and I just turned 433 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: fifty two, so what was I saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 434 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: So ironically know these these girls were from Gary, these 435 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: other girls arerom Gary. So in the curriculum, we're like, 436 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: solve a problem. And so they were working with their 437 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: their teacher, who was a legendary teacher, Dan Schultz from 438 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: Hobart High School, and they said our problem is our 439 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: our Humane Society is a no kill shelter and they're 440 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: lacking funds. It's a no kill shelter, so so what 441 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: are they doing just mounting up animals everywhere trying to 442 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: get them adopted and like begging fosters like they it's 443 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: it was a problem. That was a problem, and so 444 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: Dan was like, all right, what are you gonna do? 445 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: And the like we want to like sell like dog toys, 446 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll take the money from the dog toys 447 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: sell and then that'll we'll give the money to the 448 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: Humane Society. And so what they decide to do is 449 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: Dan asked, and I'm I'm I'm maybe getting some of 450 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: the facts on what they came up with, what mister 451 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: Schultz came up with. So I apologized to the patch 452 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: Balls girls, but they said second problem was that they 453 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: also didn't like upsych they didn't like fashion that you 454 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: throw away. And so the girls went to the farmer's market. 455 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: Because this is factually I'm getting this correct, So they 456 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: wanted to start selling at their local farmer's market. But 457 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 2: the first thing they started asking for is donations of 458 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: jeans and old t shirts that you were going to 459 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: throw out, and so they started shredding the T shirts 460 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: and the jeans pattern they'd cut out to make a 461 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: little bone pattern, and they were stuffing them with old 462 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: shirts and using the jeens, and then they'd go to 463 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: the farmer's market and sell out immediately, so much so 464 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: that people were giving them money even though they didn't 465 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: have any bones. So their problem was they couldn't keep 466 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: up with capacity. So this is where it gets really 467 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: fun why I like using tax dollars for good. Part 468 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: of the process is if you make it past round one, 469 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: you are required to meet with your Small Business Development Center. 470 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: And these girls were like, we got a problem in 471 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 2: our hands. People love our product. They love that it's 472 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: helping the local humane society, and they love because it's 473 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: getting fast fashion out of landfills. How wholesome is this? Waight? 474 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: It gets better? So this SBDC counselor goes, so your 475 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: problem is assembly in production. They go, yeah, and there 476 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: she is, Oh my gosh, about ten miles from your 477 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: I don't only think is that far very close proximity 478 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: to your high school. There is an organization called trade Wins, 479 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: and they hire special needs adults to sow and assemble 480 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: things together, two fifteen year old girls solved three problems, 481 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: helping your main society, getting landfill off of landfill, and 482 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: helping employ the most underemployed. I couldn't script a better 483 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: movie than that. And they wins the first time freshman won. 484 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: That may be forever hard to beat that story. That's 485 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: I'll start shopping phenomenal. I'm hoping to try to shop 486 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: that to like NBC's making a difference. 487 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: That's a great story. And so all of this comes 488 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: from was that part of started up? Yeah, that's from 489 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: this thing. 490 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: Yes, part of our curriculum, see a problem, solve it, 491 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: And because of great teachers, like part of that's from us. 492 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: They had ten year old girls go on to do 493 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: it their life after that, they're still in high school. 494 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: They're still hitting yes. 495 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh you keep asking the most great questions because now 496 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: it's going to sound even better. They haven't participated in 497 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: innovate within because they already won. And so their mentors, 498 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: their mentors for students that are older than. 499 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Them, teaching them. How started up? Stuff amazing and and 500 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: and and one of the universal was started up? Now 501 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: an organization that you're the executive director of or whatever 502 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: how's that work, the CEO, and so that you're now 503 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: running this is it an annual competition? Yeah? 504 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: Man, I wish I could always do interviews this accommodating. Yes, 505 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: our big, our big, one of our big things is 506 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: innovate within that is the big Pitch competition that is statewide. 507 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: We have six regions. So if you took a map 508 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: of Indiana and you bowled it in half and you 509 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: cut it in thirds, those of our six regions. So 510 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: we get thousands of teams to apply and then we 511 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: boil them down through a rubric and a lot of 512 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: judging that we break down a top ten in every region. 513 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: We have those in now we have sixty groop okay. 514 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: And then. 515 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: Those competitions are pretty I bet they are amazing once 516 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: you boil it down to them again with our partners 517 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: at the Small Business Development Centers, they all like help 518 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: coach them. A lot of legacy teams like these kids 519 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: come back and coach up their schools. Right. And so 520 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: from there we have six finalists and we have four 521 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: wild cards. And luckily for us, there was a consistent 522 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: judge at all six with the SBDCs and the IDC, 523 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: and so we basically have four because in some cases 524 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: second place it's too good, So we have a top 525 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: ten team. My favorite thing is those kids. I'm hoping 526 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: to know that. By the way, if you made it 527 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: to the top sixty, we have an alumni association. I 528 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: hope to know them for the next twenty years, which 529 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: will make me seventy two. You kid, no no no. 530 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: By Governor Holcombe asking for it slight turn again, people 531 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: are like, dear god, this man's add But one year 532 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: he was listening to this girl. So he shows up early. 533 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: And I'll say this about Governor Holkum. He really loves 534 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: innovate with them and started up and so he was 535 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: talking to this one young lady and he looks at me. 536 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: He goes, she just made me feel so stupid. This 537 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: is awesome. And he goes, where is she going? And 538 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, don't worry about it. She's going to 539 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: Indiana University. She's going to you no, no, no no. 540 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: In five years. Where's she going? And I was like, 541 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. And he goes, are you going to 542 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: keep in contact with her? And I go, actually, this 543 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: was like the year three or four, and I go, 544 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: we actually do stay in contact. Of a lot of them, 545 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: and he goes, you should have like a better tracking 546 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: and so we started an alumni association to really refer 547 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: and then when we get into other people we're dealing 548 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: with and working with, they want referrals to other people, 549 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: and we do that for them. And then the other 550 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: big thing we do is though those top ten teams, 551 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: whether you came in first or tenth, they all go 552 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: to another city ironically to incentivize them to stay in Indiana 553 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: the last two years. So the first year is in 554 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: New York City and we're trying to show them, like 555 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: they got to meet so and so they got to 556 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: meet Seth Godin and John Ford of CNBC and these 557 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: other cool like cool things, and then they're meeting a 558 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: great network and we're like we're over their side, like 559 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: whispering there, but you should still like stay in Indiana 560 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: because like you know them now and it's cheaper to 561 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: stay here, and your mom and dad love you, so 562 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: don't leave, right, And so that's that's the Crown Jewel 563 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: is innovate with then, and that kind of belief. 564 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: There's kids standing in line to be part of this. 565 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Oh, at some schools, this is this will go down 566 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: as my favorite interview ever. 567 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Thank you dude. 568 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: You're just serving and you weren't. 569 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: We weren't. 570 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: We didn't rehearse. We not rehearsed, you would think. And 571 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: at some schools it is becoming popular. 572 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: By the way, because of what you just said. I 573 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: will not be flying to your house and washing your floors. 574 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: Okay, A good, good, good. This is the thing that 575 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: this one of the reasons why we now have this 576 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: teacher fellowship. In the beginning, when we put out the curriculum, 577 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: we started to see some growth in certain schools. When 578 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: we looked at it, it was not the school, it 579 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: was an individual teacher that was absolute trojan horse. I 580 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: was talking about Dan Schultz, says Sarah Ackerman. Jose Mota. 581 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: These absolute sellar and so we then started having more 582 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: conversations with them on how do we grow it? And 583 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: they were the pied pipers, and I will say our 584 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: Secretary of Education and just our doe in general, they 585 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: take some risks. We had some changes in our new 586 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: requirements and we're being criticized for them, but in a 587 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: lot of ways they're very friendly towards the trades. So 588 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: I personally think that people are I think what Ada 589 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: is doing is wonderful. But I asked her, hey, I'm 590 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: starting to identify these unbelievably great teachers. Let's start a fellowship. 591 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: Plus a friend of ours and now one of our 592 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: newest board members, he is a White House fellow, and 593 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: he's telling me about if you make things like fellowships 594 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: are powerful, and so we propose that we have this 595 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: fellowship of innovative Educators. It's exclusive. Like I'm talking, we're 596 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: trying to get some awesome things for you. It's a 597 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: bad business model, but it's good for teachers. So a 598 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: lot of times I'll bring in money and I'll pay 599 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: them more because and it's not a whole lot, but 600 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: it's better than working thirty forty football games and basketball 601 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: games at the gate. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 602 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: You should still work the gate. But we also gave 603 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: them other incentives. Every now and then it'd be like 604 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: a panel speaking thing, and we wanted the teachers to go. 605 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: We had a couple and this is where hopefully people 606 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: are like you, lucky son of a We're in Indianapolis, 607 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: so it's the motor sports capital. There is a wonderful 608 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: company called Delara. They're the innovation leaders and motorsports, and 609 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 2: they're in the Italian motor Valley, and so they liked 610 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: some of our teachers and students and we went out 611 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: to Italy. Teachers didn't pay for that, and and you know, 612 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: we've had other opportunities where we would get crazy relationships 613 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: and we wanted to make sure the teachers got to 614 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: work or talk to them. Just this last year, thank 615 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: you Indiana Pacers, the Indianapolis. The Indiana Pacers hosted the 616 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game this year and they broke her 617 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: tot awesome biod this with fifty and fifty cent sponsored 618 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: one to sponsor two teams from certain high schools around 619 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis era, and so some teachers and students got 620 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: to meet fifty. We want we want to celebritize great teachers. 621 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: And if you celebritize them enough, they get picked up. 622 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: So you're like, all right, let's bust our butt to 623 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: have better incentives for them, because like, schools can't pay 624 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: you for like ironically, schools normally don't do like bonus 625 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: pay for turning out amazing stuff. But I can. 626 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right back, all right, So last year, 627 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: let's just take last year all right. 628 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: Last year, there's the sixty teams. 629 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, or are they teams? Yeah? All right, sixty teams? Sorry? 630 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: That is that usually two students? Is this gonna say? 631 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes they're solopreneurs. We actually pay out a little bit 632 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: more if you're a team. 633 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So there's sixty competitors, all right, do they 634 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: all present at the same place? And who do they 635 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: present to? 636 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: Uh So, depending on the location. A lot of times 637 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 2: they're at universities. We had wanted a maker space this year, 638 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: but they all top ten teams for that region won. 639 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: The consistent judge was Anne Marie. She was from the IDC, 640 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: and then a lot of times it was like a 641 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 2: university president or provost or sometimes like the business department lead, 642 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: but they weren't us. So yeah, so they would these 643 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: top ten teams would make that pitch, and again a 644 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: lot of these people had business backgrounds, so they were 645 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: asking him real questions. Yeah, and it it. I think 646 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: that's why it has gotten so competitive. It's also where 647 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: it breaks my heart because competitions make everything better. But 648 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: they also like like I hate see you know, kids 649 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: like walk away to dejected. Like last year, I started 650 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: freaking crying at state finals because I felt so bad. 651 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: It's like like all ten teams were amazing and I 652 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: was like the second police team. I was like trying 653 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: not to because I'm way emotional. 654 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So how long are these presentations that they did? Yeah? 655 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: Six minutes with four minutes Q and A. 656 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: So these kids could work conceivably all year, and they 657 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: first identify an issue, and then they come up with 658 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: a solution, and then they implement that solution. 659 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: And then they get shot down by their teacher fellow. 660 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: I think what they have the superpower is is they 661 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: have them the power to say this is not good. 662 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: Start over, and. 663 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: So they do until they come up with a problem, 664 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: a solution, and an implementation yet worked yep. And then they, 665 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: in six minutes, after working conceivably a year on this, 666 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: stand in front of some adults that are judging them, 667 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: and they have six minutes to sell you on this 668 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 1: is a real problem. This is the way we're going 669 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: to innovate to solve the problem, and here is how 670 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: we implemented it. I don't think you could learn any better. 671 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: Could I add just one more thing on that please 672 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: the harsh real First of all, this is every pitch competition, right, 673 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 2: you boil things down and you have to be concise. 674 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 2: But most of the top teams, and this is again 675 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm not pandering to my governor, but he pointed it 676 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: out last year. He goes, he took the stage and 677 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: after all of them, he says, all ten teams had 678 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: advisory boards and they weren't moms and dads and aunts 679 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 2: and uncles. That's also part of our curriculum. Understand your network. 680 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: Who do you reach out to, who you get advice from? 681 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: Good advice, not like my dad says. You know, of 682 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: course I had. 683 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: That's the reality of the world. 684 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 2: But they have gotten to be so savvy. We've had 685 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: several kids this year as they were going through their 686 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: slides and they'd show a graph on expenses and like, 687 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: here's basically a snapshot of our expenses. I'd love to 688 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 2: go into more detail. In Q and A, they're baiting 689 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: the judges to ask. 690 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: What is wrong with that? 691 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: I love it. It's again you watching like I am 692 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: stupid at this age. I was trying to impress my girlfriends, 693 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 2: who thank god is my wife now. But like you 694 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: go like what and and and why? Actually there's like 695 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: two or three teams that they go later and they're 696 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: all live stream because like all of ours are live 697 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: streams and there's other so man first mover advantage is 698 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: not a first mover advantage. So God bless the kids 699 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: in Region one because I know that Region three they're 700 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: literally like popcorn watching. Maybe they don't starve popmarn, but 701 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: that they're all watching and they're like, ah, that's good. 702 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: And so they there's been a couple of kids that 703 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 2: blaze the trail of I'd love to go into more detail. 704 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: You can ask me that in Q and A later, 705 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, follow up, But that's like it. 706 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: So after they make the espressation, then there's a panel 707 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: of judges that then get to do the shark trait drilling, 708 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: and they've got to snap off answers and if they 709 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: if they try to, if they try to snow it 710 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: or don't have real answers, it's it shows. 711 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: Matter of fact, we've even kind of coached them up 712 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: of like there's nothing wrong with admitting I don't know 713 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: that answer. 714 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's better than a snow job. 715 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: And and then I think the other really interesting part 716 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: of the the Q and A is just I think 717 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: it's worth it's one and lost. 718 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: That's what I would expect, especially anything body can make 719 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: a nice power point, how. 720 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: Do you respond to the real questions? And and those 721 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: who have really had mentors that are in this and 722 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: and and then there's certain high schools that it has 723 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: become so competitive, like that's their that's their sport. 724 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: Now has any of these become ongoing entities? 725 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: Tell me one my oh, again, not trying to show favoritism, 726 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: but probably one of our bigger success stories. And the one, 727 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 2: the one that you're talking about, like it it doesn't 728 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 2: have to be good looking slides and well, first you 729 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: just have to have something that makes sense. We had 730 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: two young men. I mean this lovingly. They would start 731 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: They're the kind of young men they would start off 732 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: a sentence with I'm tell you what, I'll tell you what, 733 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: tell you what. They were they're good country boys, got it. 734 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: And this was at the state finals where things were polished, 735 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: slides look good. A lot of times kids were in suits. 736 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: These young men were in car hearts. 737 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: Right. 738 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: Their problems by the way, all right, oh that's my guy. 739 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: What would I say? 740 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: What? 741 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: Like you'll get what their problem is? So their problem 742 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: was their problem was uh the lures you get at 743 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: the walmarts. Ye aren't right. Color and consistency for crappie 744 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: fishing in the spring in Indiana. 745 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Well that's a problem. 746 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: So they started SIBCO, which stands for Southern Indiana Bay Company. 747 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: And what they were doing is they were listening to 748 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: fishermen and what color combinations work best for crappie and 749 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: then bass and then so I think now they're point 750 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: of sale. They have like fifty different products. 751 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? 752 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: They made their own plastic injection molded chad worms, crawdads, 753 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 2: I mean, like yes, frogs. 754 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: The problem they made themselves problem is the tackle out 755 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: there available to attack crappie. You're telling me the people 756 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: that made those for a living had not figured out 757 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: the best scholar combinations. 758 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: Probably had in a general mass market. But they started 759 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 2: off hyper niche. They started off wanting to help Southern 760 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: Indiana fishermen. 761 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: Southern Indiana fishermen for the crappie and those fonds. 762 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 2: And now they have sales in all fifty states in Europe. 763 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: You are hitting me, by the way. 764 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 2: He also, I am if I'm getting this wrong, Zion, 765 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 2: I apologize. I think that he also started the best 766 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 2: team at his high school and now he is among 767 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: the I don't know, I don't know if he's the president, 768 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: but he also helps run the Beast team at Purdue. 769 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: Is it a business, sibco is? Yeah, And they started 770 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: from this thing in high school. And let's talk. 771 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: About and the boys go to like their other thing 772 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 2: is they listen to fishermen and what do they do 773 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: most of their money is because they do trade shows. 774 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: They're on tour during trade shows. 775 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: And these are country kids in cars that and it 776 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: have never ever ever gone down that path that it's 777 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: not been. 778 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: Therefore and ironic, well, no, no, these boys were they 779 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: were destined for this. They already started it in a 780 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: minor way and then they kept expanding it. So credit 781 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 2: where credits due. These were inventive young men brothers by 782 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: the way, Zion and Xavier. But their ability to listen 783 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: to fishermen and work trade shows and honestly, what is 784 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: their secret sauce their age? You made these and then 785 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: the process of learning how to package and make sure 786 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 2: the packaging looks good and everything else. So uh again, 787 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: like I last year's winners, right, they came up because 788 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: they had a legendarily awesome teacher Craig. 789 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: What was there? What was their problem? 790 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: There was a they weren't a BioMed class, so they 791 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 2: went BioMed. So they went to a hospital and started 792 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: asking a lot of questions. 793 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: And what they found was the problem. 794 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: Right, So they they they realized that a lot of 795 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: people that had catheters and lots of people at the site, right, 796 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: you'll get infected. And then how do you know you 797 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: have infection? It gets it gets warm and it gets 798 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: red around where the. 799 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: Body. 800 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: Right, So they're like, yeah, that's a real problem. Right. 801 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 2: And normally when you detective, you're like, why is the sore? 802 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: So they're like, why isn't there like a little interceptor 803 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: in the tube you can tell an affection before it 804 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: gets bad? 805 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: Wow? 806 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 2: And some people are like, it's actually not rocket science. 807 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: Why aren't we weren't we doing that? 808 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 3: And and they they won Are some of these kids 809 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: like patent and yes, as that is And do they 810 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: have help to copywriter platten whatever they're doing. 811 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: Yes, as a matter of fact, so you can tell 812 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: me a high school kid figured out what. 813 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh, it still needs more research, make no mistake about that. 814 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: One. 815 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 2: Like the things that are in the BioMed area. You 816 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: have to be careful sure now that what they have 817 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: was basically like an and egen tester, like it's an interceptor, 818 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 2: so it really doesn't affect it's it can be done 819 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 2: a little bit easier. So if they said I've got 820 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: a cure for. 821 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: Still the fact that these kids are walking around hospitals 822 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: asking what's the problem and then coming up with solutions, 823 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: that is that's the thing. But that's learning. That's education. Yes, 824 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: that's it's education in standing in front of people. It's 825 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: education entrepreneurship. It's education and being creative. It's education and 826 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: asking questions. It's education developing relationships. It's education on entry 827 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: to market. It's education budgeting. 828 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: How to invest in, how to spend investor money in finance. 829 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, fund the kids that 830 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 2: win regional. No, again, they watched the years before. 831 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: They know that. 832 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: One of the statements that all the judges like to see, 833 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: how did you spend your regional money? Research and development 834 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: marketing paid theirselves back because like, if you win the region, 835 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 2: it's one thousand dollars per person per team, plus an 836 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: all expense trip to this year's Washington DC. And so 837 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 2: the the prize money should not go to you know, 838 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: Mountain dew and whatever. As a matter of fact, at 839 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 2: the state level, it's a twenty five thousand dollars seed fund. 840 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: We take zero percent equity. But there was a joke 841 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: in year one, what happens when you give a kid 842 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 2: a twenty five thousand dollars check, he buys a used Mustang. 843 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 2: So now the expectation isn't because sophistication has gotten better. 844 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 2: They know that that's an investment in them, so they're 845 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 2: not going to go buy a used guard. They're like, 846 00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to grow. 847 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: This thing will be right back. 848 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 2: Fun fact, this year's crop of Forbes thirty under thirty 849 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 2: we have two. This year's crop of Forbes thirty under 850 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: thirty two came from this nineteen years old. 851 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: You are kidding me. This should be done in every state. 852 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 2: I would like your help. It's been a lonely, weird existence. 853 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: It's it's which is why I was so excited to 854 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 2: do this podcast, because you're leading an army normal people, 855 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: and normal people will go why why isn't my son's 856 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 2: school doing that? And yet it's it's it's been really 857 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: been private schools being homeschool cohort school is awesome. Yes, yeah, 858 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: you had a guest on them about homeschool cohort so yeah, 859 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, yes, I I want every high schooler 860 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: to at least have this option. And by the way, 861 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: i'm giving you the best case scenario. We still get 862 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of really bad pitches, but they're thinking, Okay, 863 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: who cares. Exactly. 864 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: There's part of education also to be told that's a 865 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: bad goal, that's not a proper dream. But I like 866 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: your thought process, refine it and come back. Yeah, which 867 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: is exactly what a bank's going to say to me 868 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: when I want to start a business. Yeah, and you 869 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 1: might as well learn. 870 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: That now exactly. I'm gonna for those watching on videos, 871 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 2: I know it's mostly an audio. I'm gonna do exactly. 872 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: So round one is a video pitch because we have 873 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 2: to go over a lot of them. Yeah, and this 874 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 2: is one young man from a school that did not 875 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: have a lot gave the one thousand yards stare and 876 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: the video looked like this. He looked at the camera, 877 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 2: he goes, I've been listening to people complaining I think 878 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 2: I'm onto something. Here's a thousand yards stare. Seriously, in 879 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: that moment, I knew that the mindset was there in 880 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: his eyes. He was like already reflecting, like this cool, 881 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 2: and I just love the fact that our theme has 882 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: been see a problem as an opportunity. And he's like, 883 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: I've been listening to complain people complain. I think that 884 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm onto something like that was everything to us. He 885 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 2: didn't go on and win, he didn't make it the regionals, 886 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 2: but it's that beginning muscle memory of saying, like we 887 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 2: say this again and again and again in our in 888 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 2: our in our in our curriculum, people of influence solve 889 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: people's problems. The gold standard right now for kids in 890 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 2: entrepreneurship is mister Beast. Is what mister Beast? He is 891 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,959 Speaker 2: the gold standard. This guy years ago was doing dumb 892 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 2: things on I shouldn't say dumb. He was doing stunts 893 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 2: on Twitch like I'm going to watch the Macarena for 894 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,479 Speaker 2: forty eight hours and live stream it. But he would 895 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: make money and people would feel sorry, I give him 896 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 2: five bucks here, ten bucks there, a thing and he's like, hey, 897 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to plant ten thousand trees now from the money. 898 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: And this guy is the biggest YouTube influence, Like he 899 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: makes more, he's making bank I think he may be 900 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 2: with the B now not just the m Wow. He 901 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 2: is making more money than anybody, anybody, And like a 902 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 2: couple of my favorites, he wants to buy here, pay 903 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: here a lot. Matter of fact, fact check me. It 904 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 2: may have been in Tennessee a lot of times. They're 905 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 2: in North Carolina, but he wants to buy here, pay 906 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 2: her a lot. Obviously in a buy here, pay her 907 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 2: a lot. Not great area. And he bought every car, 908 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 2: and he started putting in window stickers that said one 909 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: dollar and five dollars, and people are like, they had 910 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 2: cameras and people like, are you what are you doing? 911 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 2: Is you drive a hard bargain. I'll give you twenty 912 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 2: thousand dollars take it off our hands. For people that 913 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 2: needed it, went to a grocery store like an IgA, 914 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 2: a smaller one, bought, bought the grocery store. Everything in it. 915 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 2: Got the p's like, hey, if anybody here shopping, you 916 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 2: just could go ahead and leave. We're just going to 917 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: pay for all of it one end. Some of his 918 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 2: fans love it. His fans brought in like refrigerated box trucks, 919 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 2: took in all the food and they started making deliveries 920 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 2: to food shelters. 921 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you're kidding. 922 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 2: This guy has monetized nice got it, so a lot 923 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 2: of times he'll do good things. So people were like, 924 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 2: you know, he's making all his money off YouTube. No 925 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,919 Speaker 2: he's not. He's he sells merchandise. I have a Mister 926 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 2: Beast hoodie and I'm fifty two years old. I have 927 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 2: a Mister Beasts hat because when people see, like, especially 928 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: when he was first like not too popular, it's like 929 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 2: if you know, you know, so when I'd wear my 930 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 2: mister Beasts hoodie, the kids are like, ah, what track? 931 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: All right, hold on, it's time to introduce somebody else. 932 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: If you're a listener of an army normal folks, you 933 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:48,479 Speaker 1: know Alex, who is our producer and often my straight man, 934 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: who I like to make fun of. But there's another 935 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: guy named Cassius who's our videographer. Cassius owns ISF Productions, 936 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: and if this podcast where we do men of our podcast, 937 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: which you can attest to, pretty cool. 938 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, very nice out that right. 939 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, when you said mister Bees, that's the first time 940 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: I've ever heard you say a word doing record cash 941 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: Just you know, mister b is you watched him, really 942 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: is he hilarious. All right, So what you're saying is 943 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: your kids are all like mister Bees. 944 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 2: He's the gold standard beast, Like he's the beast, mister Beast. 945 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 946 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 2: But when I go into school sometimes that I want 947 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: to like, I'm making a lot of school business. 948 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 1: This is my thing. 949 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: I like, I love my team, they're fantastic. My actually 950 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 2: my former students, one of my co founder. 951 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 952 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: But I want to go and visit schools and so 953 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 2: a lot of times like who's this older guy and 954 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, And I'm like, hey, guys, have ever 955 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 2: heard of entrepreneurship? And I started them off really boring 956 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, ask me who my favorite 957 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 2: entrepreneur is. They're like, is it Elon or is it Jeff? 958 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: I guess? I go it's Jimmy. And they because if 959 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: you know who Jimmy is, they're like, you know what 960 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many names and so they're like, 961 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 2: what do you mean. I go, he's an entrepreneur and like, 962 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: no he's not. He's a YouTuber. 963 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: No, he's an entrepreneur. 964 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 2: And I break it down. They're like, that's what I 965 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 2: want to do because he because here we go this 966 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 2: episode called because he does Rule number three. Nothing that 967 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,240 Speaker 2: he does is about just him. It's about helping others. 968 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: He has monetized nice, which now we're going to get 969 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 2: to the Kim Kardashian thing. This is a new high 970 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: for me and remembering my add and circling back to 971 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 2: something years ago. I had my daughter. She just wanted 972 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 2: to have a day off school. So I had released 973 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 2: a book and I was starting to speak a little bit. 974 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 2: One of them was going to be in Chicago, so 975 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 2: I was going to drive to it. So Ava was like, hey, Dad, 976 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: can I kind of go with you? And here you speak. 977 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 2: I've never heard you speak. She just wanted to get 978 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: out school. God bless her. So we're driving and uh, 979 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 2: Celebrity Gossip Brady comes on and they're talking about and 980 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 2: I think it was Kanye and Kim or whatever, and 981 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 2: about somebody getting a divorce. And my daughter turns off 982 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,720 Speaker 2: the radio and she goes that that's my generation's problem. 983 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: And I go, what what do you mean? And she 984 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: is we're looking up to the wrong people. And I 985 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I agree. She's like gen Z just 986 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 2: needs better mentors, and she went mentors, mentor I should 987 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: start a podcast called Mentors with a Z on the end, 988 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: and I should interview better mentors for Generation Z and 989 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 2: not just like make it Kim and Kanye stuff. And 990 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 2: she launched it. You're at age sixteen or maybe she 991 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 2: was fifteenth time. 992 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, kid, she. 993 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 2: Thought it was cool because dad was starting to do 994 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 2: and she's like, well, we mean like plus, she's just 995 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 2: like that person got back to you. Maybe you can 996 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 2: ask him to be on my show, but like, but 997 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: she's like it started off by her being dis gusted 998 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 2: and going back to that, my kids were introducing me 999 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 2: to thought leaders who's Gary Vee? Because they were getting 1000 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 2: into this learning advice from people that weren't just show voting. 1001 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's why mister B so cool, I 1002 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: would argue started off with her dad, And I would 1003 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 1: say that disinfectious disease called innovation and creativity can be contagious, 1004 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 1: but in the most positive, amazing way. Do you ever think, 1005 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: holy crap, I was teaching language arts and now we're 1006 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: doing this. Do you ever think you know I was 1007 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: teaching language arts and I guess, what's what's the fifteen 1008 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: twenty years how long from when you started in education? 1009 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: To when I think started up started. 1010 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 2: I think I was in ironically, and I think it 1011 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 2: was in the year twenty or twenty one. So my 1012 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 2: dad's prophetic words unbelievable. Yeah, I actually think it was 1013 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 2: exactly that is. 1014 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: That is, Yeah, well you took us advice, but I mean, 1015 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 1: what a trip? 1016 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the true Yeah, what's next? Ironically? Enough, again, 1017 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 2: thank you for asking these questions. They're deeply personal with me. 1018 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, I'm trying to build what 1019 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 2: I wanted when I was a classroom teacher. In a 1020 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: lot of ways, I wanted access to my local mayor. 1021 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: I wanted access to great leaders in my community because 1022 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 2: therefore my students had access. And and that's what we're 1023 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 2: trying to do. I've been unusually blessed with having strange 1024 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 2: encounters and now a network of like I can't believe 1025 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 2: that I get to meet with Blank. It's been strange, 1026 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 2: like three weeks ago. Never mind, it's just stupid. I 1027 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 2: met Richard Branson met Richard Branson. How cool is that? 1028 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 2: That's a longer story, but like because and by somebody 1029 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 2: even online, like how do you do that? And I said, 1030 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: the best thing I can answer is people want it 1031 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 2: was a stroke of series of good luck in a 1032 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 2: board member, but it's something he said. I appreciate what 1033 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 2: you're trying to build where there's trying a lot of 1034 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 2: people are like, dude, you're trying to take on education. 1035 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 2: And so I am looking for one trojan horse in 1036 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: a high school. If it's a huge high school, i'd 1037 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 2: like two or three. And so that's what's next. I 1038 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 2: want an army of exceptional teachers that are normal people, 1039 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: because they see their riding on a wall. They see 1040 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 2: that some kids that like just went through it and 1041 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 2: graduated and have all the debt and none of the 1042 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 2: skills to not their fault. And so we're trying to 1043 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 2: build an army of teachers that are our trojan horses. 1044 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 2: They get inside the school walls. To your credit, they 1045 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 2: make it infectious. Problem solving can be cool, and it 1046 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: takes leadership, and leadership means you have to be accountable 1047 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 2: to somebody, and that is your teacher. If I can 1048 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: build that army, then I am happy, and I will 1049 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 2: live up to my dad's legacy. And that's what I want. 1050 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 2: I like more than anything. Probably one of the most 1051 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 2: like and I don't know how much he remembers of this, 1052 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 2: but like back when there's a thing called them all, 1053 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 2: like kids would see my dad and it was funny 1054 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 2: because like when you're a kid, when you see your 1055 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 2: teacher outside the school walls, you're like, oh my gosh, 1056 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 2: you don't live in school. But I just remember this 1057 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 2: one encounter where a student stopped my dad and he 1058 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 2: just start talking to him, and he looked at me 1059 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 2: and he goes, it must be so awesome to have 1060 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: a dad like you. Wow, And I think that's sorry. 1061 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: There's so many teachers out there that are that, and 1062 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 2: I want them to have more, And then I don't 1063 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: want to have to them to say I mean, like 1064 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 2: I wish I could do this for every teacher, but 1065 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 2: for right now, I want those creative trojan horses to 1066 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,959 Speaker 2: go in and really disrupt education, maybe in a kinder way, 1067 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 2: maybe in a less of truce way of how I started. 1068 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 2: But if we do that, you get students to really 1069 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 2: work on things that are impactful. And that's what we're 1070 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: going to do in time. It just takes me longer 1071 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: than what I thought. 1072 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal. Thank you. If somebody listening wants to what's 1073 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: to one support, what you're doing. Or two and even 1074 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: maybe more impactful, wants you to share with them how 1075 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: this all works in Dana for their state. Or three 1076 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: is an educator that just wants to do this in 1077 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: their class. Or four is the president of some big 1078 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: school district that says we need to do this in 1079 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: our city school system or whatever. Because I mean, my gosh, 1080 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: as I listened to you, I think about fifty different 1081 00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: places this model could be apply. How do they get 1082 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: in touch with you? 1083 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 2: There's always email, So d Wetric d W E. T. 1084 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 2: T or I C k at started up Foundation dot org. 1085 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 2: Sorry about how long that is? 1086 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: That's good? Uh? 1087 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: Don Wetrick on on LinkedIn. I think those are the 1088 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 2: two best ways. 1089 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: And how do you find out more about startup foundations their. 1090 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 2: Website start ed upfoundation dot org. And yeah, and then 1091 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 2: we're relaunching. I used to have a podcast. It's done 1092 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 2: a two year pause, so I'm going to be starting 1093 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: that back up the next month. Started up podcast. We 1094 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 2: have two different segments, so one is today's guest Teacher. 1095 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to be a guest teacher and we'll 1096 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: make sure we record that. So we have some people 1097 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 2: of influence that that they're they're teaching today's lesson. 1098 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: Got it? 1099 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 2: And then we have another section calling finding Purpose, and 1100 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 2: we feature teachers because I'm hoping that we have on 1101 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 2: some really cool guests and the teacher goes, I was 1102 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 2: on the same podcast as so and so, so. 1103 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: That would be awesome. And you know, on an army 1104 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: normal folks, we do the small blips of chop talk. 1105 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: I thank you. I think wouldn't it be cool if 1106 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: you had small blips of students who've participated just tell 1107 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: their experience too, Ye? 1108 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, noted do that? That would be interesting, Yeah, 1109 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, the proofs in that putting. 1110 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Don Thanks for coming to Memphis, Thanks for 1111 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: telling the story, Thanks for the work that you're doing. 1112 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,959 Speaker 1: Was started up, and beyond all of that, there's lots 1113 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: of different ways to get to places, and I just 1114 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: feel like there's so many kids in our school system 1115 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: that just kind of go through the motions that get lost, 1116 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: and this thing creates so much more and it is 1117 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: a different way to learn. And so thanks for all 1118 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: that you do and thanks for starting up, but more importantly, 1119 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: thanks for what you figured out from I'm a ted 1120 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Talk and then you institute in your school and now 1121 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: you're institutent in your state that genuinely positively affects kids. 1122 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,959 Speaker 1: That is a phenomenal thing. 1123 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: Back at you, last little donism we want. I was 1124 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 2: wanting our students to be producers, not just consumers. Producing 1125 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 2: now has never been easier. You can upload your world 1126 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: to YouTube and influence people. I since Weston introduced me 1127 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: to you, when I started digging in your podcast, the 1128 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 2: people that are sometimes too humble to brag, the people 1129 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 2: that are doing the real stuff. When I saw that 1130 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: that was a thing, and then I saw that you 1131 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 2: had the documentary and all this sort of things, like 1132 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 2: you're giving a voice. I don't want to say the voiceless, 1133 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 2: but you're giving a voice too. Like people are like 1134 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 2: you're doing that. So back at you, I just I 1135 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 2: love that when everybody else has chased celebrities, you are 1136 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 2: chasing people with purpose and I got you. 1137 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: Man well, I humbly say thank you for that. But 1138 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: it was Alex's idea. And all I do is talk 1139 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: to the people that he worked so hard defined. 1140 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 2: So it's a lot more than just me say almos 1141 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,439 Speaker 2: on me thanks for joining us. 1142 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: On an army and normal folks dude, and I will 1143 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: absolutely keep up with you. And next time I'm in Indie, 1144 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: which won't be long from now, maybe we maybe we 1145 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: go get a bite to eat at Saint Alma's. All right, buddy, 1146 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Boom, and thank you for 1147 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: joining us this week. Guys, if God, Wetrick or another 1148 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: guest has inspired you in general, or better yet, to 1149 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: take action by bringing genius time, open source learning, or 1150 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: started up to your commune unity, donating to them, or 1151 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: something else entirely, please let me know. I'd love to 1152 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: hear about it. You can write me anytime at Bill 1153 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: at normalfolks dot us and ask around. I will respond. 1154 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with friends 1155 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: and on social subscribe to the podcast, rate and review it. 1156 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 1: Become a premium member at normalfolks dot us. Do all 1157 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: these things that will help us grow an army of 1158 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: normal folks. The more of you out there, the more 1159 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: impact we can have. I'm Bill Courtney. I'll see you 1160 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 1: next week.