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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back man season two of All the Smoke. We got

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Speaker 1: a real special guys, what's up with your Brodie with

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Speaker 1: the virtual handshake? I'm gonna tell you something that I

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Speaker 1: never told you back Smoke. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: of All the Smoke, our first recorded episode of one.

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Speaker 1: We got a good one for you today. We got

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Speaker 1: Deer and Fox and his agent Chris guest and appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys. Man, thanks for your time. Yes, supposed to

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Speaker 1: do this. We're supposed to do this a while ago. Yeah, so, dear,

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Speaker 1: and let's just get right to your richest funk now.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations a five years, a hundred and sixty three million

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Speaker 1: dollar extension. Man, congratulations on that. Um that happened fast.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're what the third year, this yr, third year,

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Speaker 1: and fourth year, fourth year? It's my fourth man, So

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Speaker 1: congratulations man, How how how is that own, although we're

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Speaker 1: in a pandemic, kind of changed your life? I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of people hitting you up and

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Speaker 1: congratulating and asking for ship, like, how is your life

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Speaker 1: changed since you signed to you know, man, enough money

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Speaker 1: to take care of your family for the rest of

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Speaker 1: your life. Actually, nah, I mean since I've been in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, man, it's kind of been it's been easy.

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Speaker 1: It's really been easy. Like you know, you hear the

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Speaker 1: stories about people always having people out of get your number,

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Speaker 1: hit you up, ask for your stuff. But I never

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Speaker 1: really had that problem. It's crazy as it sounds. I've

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Speaker 1: never really had that problems. You know, California taking half

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Speaker 1: of that ship. So that's what people don't understand. Like

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Speaker 1: right from the jump, whatever number you see, slice that

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Speaker 1: right down the middle and then they're still in California.

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Speaker 1: You're slicing more than half of that for real, understand

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Speaker 1: So Chris as someone who's trained him and now you're

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Speaker 1: his agent, I mean, there's got to be rewarding for

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Speaker 1: you as well, for you know, for to to see

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Speaker 1: you know, a good friend of yours, a client, a brother,

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Speaker 1: signed a max contract only in this fortune. Man, it's

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Speaker 1: a great feeling. But be honest, was almost like a

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Speaker 1: side relief man because everything that could have happened last year,

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Speaker 1: happy man. I mean, at the beginning of the year

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Speaker 1: then Corona hit. So we're like, man, the season gonna

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Speaker 1: get complete in the bubble happened, then Bloody div I

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Speaker 1: got fired to dude I've been talking to for the

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Speaker 1: past two years, something like, Man, this is crazy. We

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Speaker 1: had we had June circle on our calendar if I

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Speaker 1: just kept getting pushed back further and further, further and back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So man, when it happened, we was like, Man, we celebrated. Man,

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Speaker 1: we celebrated. It was you know, I got on my

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Speaker 1: knees and thank God, and we celebrated absolutely. Darren, you

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Speaker 1: also just uh proposed to your now fiance in September,

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Speaker 1: so engaged. Man, uh father new contract. Life is good.

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Speaker 1: It looks like outside of obviously the pandemic being crazy,

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Speaker 1: you been able to manage everything? Hold on, Hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, Chris Matt he good because I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you. He he tell you, he tell But

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Speaker 1: I saw him at Turkey Ladhood. I seen him and

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Speaker 1: people and for the world. Was a lot of blessings

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Speaker 1: for me. So Ship, I just I just keep calling

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Speaker 1: my blessings. I wasn't hurting you said. I got engaged,

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Speaker 1: I signed a contract. I played well in the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the bubble, what was that situation like going

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Speaker 1: obviously safety first and foremost, basketball next, and then also

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Speaker 1: carrying on a social justice message which I know you're

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Speaker 1: prominent with because you were out of March that my

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Speaker 1: We rather wish we didn't have to do it, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's cool just being able to do that type

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Speaker 1: of stuff. Absolutely. Um, what was it like to actually

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Speaker 1: The bubble man, the bubble is totally different from what

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Speaker 1: it's it kind of felt like a theater, super dark

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Speaker 1: But like Dames said, I mean, you're gonna see teams

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Speaker 1: Nobody can help you. Yeah, for real, for real. So Chris,

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Speaker 1: your your journey, let's talk about your story. Um, obviously

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Speaker 1: That's why I really wanted to come on this show, man,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm realized like, man, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: mean you sit in the media where, especially in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: with guys that get suspended for now, everybody making fun

425
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: of them smoking weed, like yeah, it's it's like, come

426
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: on now, it ain't even it's really not serious. It's

427
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: not that serious. Yeah. Absolutely, shout out to my mom.

428
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: And she offen right now to shout out to my mama.

429
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: She back on one now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Judy Jude, Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

430
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: So let's take it back to your roots. You know,

431
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: came up in New Orleans with the high school in

432
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: Texas we were was basketball always the goal? Did you

433
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: play other sports? Talk us through growing up and finding

434
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: your footing in basketball? So, man, I started with football.

435
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: Football is my first sport. I can imagine a little

436
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: atas back, he asked my I was nice, nice quarterback, QB, receiver, safety, corner, whatever, whatever, kickoff, return, pump,

437
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: whatever you needed me to do, what takes it, he

438
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: will do for the Saints. That's that's my day. Yeah,

439
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: that's motherfucker could throw the ball up to itself, go

440
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: catch that ball. I did all that, but yeah, I

441
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: started with football. Then um we got some middle school

442
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: and I started thinking, man, and I was already Houston

443
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: at the time, so I'm like, man, it's hot as

444
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: ship outside. Say you know in middle school. Second day

445
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: of school is tryalf so I actually had my cleats

446
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: and everything, like, yam, I'll still play like this one.

447
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: This would be one of my last years. I go

448
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: out there. Man, they were sorry as fuck, so I

449
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: swear to you they were trash eight seventh grade. Eighth

450
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: grade didn't win a game. So I'm like, yo, I'm

451
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: not playing right. I'm gonna just stick to basketball and

452
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: then ship from there. It's sky rocket hell Baylor. Baylor

453
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: was in my gym, was in my middle school gym

454
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Speaker 1: in eighth grade. So I'm like, maybe I picked the

455
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: I picked the right sport. But I'll say the reason

456
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: I really quit playing football because it was hot as hell.

457
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: It was too hot in the gym. We control the temperature,

458
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: and in football, say fun that coaches be football such

459
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: a ross sport. Coaches becaussing you out for no reason.

460
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: They talked just to hear themselves talk. I'm like, y'

461
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this because I'm gonna end up saying

462
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: something back. And that was it was it for me

463
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: in football. You gotta be from you gotta be from Texas,

464
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: that that Gulf Coast area to know that heat he's

465
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: talking about. You ain't talking about when you go outside.

466
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: Oh y'all go with shorts today. No, this is the

467
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: heat where you're taking two or three showers a day

468
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: because every time you go outside, you damn did a

469
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: car to heat stroke on car of heat stroke. I'm

470
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Speaker 1: telling it's bad, hot bro that water coming out that

471
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: he coming off that gulf is one of a kind, man.

472
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Speaker 1: And you know what you needed back then, Jack was

473
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: the Manskape package with the ball Towner in the ball

474
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: white because you wouldn't do it. And then as soon

475
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: as you got side again and you're gonna start sweating again,

476
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 1: you might have to use the ball. Wife's under your

477
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: arm and ship too, like you're gonna need that pretty

478
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: boy miss more than anything. Cool yea, yeah, yeah, man,

479
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna need that more than anything. It's just blowing

480
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: that nasty ass heat right back on you. So it

481
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: wasn't so highly decorated in high school. Uh as far

482
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: as basketball accolades, playing in every game one m vps.

483
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: When it comes down to recruiting, who were your final

484
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: four or five teams? And you really gave consideration to

485
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: going to school for so my last my final was Kentucky, Louisville, Kansas,

486
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: l s U, Arizon. So funny thing I knew her,

487
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Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of times kids just

488
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Speaker 1: waste time, you know, saying we want to take visits

489
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Speaker 1: to visit these campuses, do all this ship. So I

490
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: knew where I was going the whole time. So I'm like,

491
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to go, you know, spend the colleges money

492
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: and it ain't on me and go have a good time.

493
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Speaker 1: Take my parents say, whoever want to go on these

494
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Speaker 1: official visits. But the whole time I knew I was

495
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: going to Kentucky. So the whole month of October my

496
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Speaker 1: senior year, I went, I went camp. I wanted to

497
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Speaker 1: visit to h L s U. Kansas, went to US

498
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Speaker 1: A little US A mini camp in October. Then I

499
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Speaker 1: went to h Louisville, Kentucky, and I say, yeah, I'm

500
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: tired as fun like I'm tired all this traveling. This

501
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: was weekend after weekend for five straight weekends. And then

502
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: I had to go to Arizona and I canceled the visit.

503
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: Already knew where I was going, so I canceled that

504
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: and ended up committing to Kentucky and November. What was

505
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: it about Kentucky that had your mind made up from

506
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: the jump? Was it the one and done pipeline? Was

507
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: that something you had told yourself you wanted to try

508
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: to do? That was definitely the main reason. Second reason,

509
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: that was actually the only place I uh, that was

510
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: the place I knew I was gonna play. So Louisville

511
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: had just got in trouble for the stripper ship. So

512
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Speaker 1: my mom was like, you ain't going there? Uhay there.

513
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Speaker 1: If you knew about some stripper ship, I would have

514
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Speaker 1: signed that, man, I would have signed that day. Oh

515
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: y'all got the program damn hooping. Yeah. So my mom's

516
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: was like, you ain't going there? Uh tell you visit

517
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: l s U. Because I wanted to go to Baton

518
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: Rouge for a weekend. Um, I mean and in Kansas,

519
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, Bill self ain't playing old freshman over juniors

520
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: and seniors because they had Davonte ram and uh and

521
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: um Frank Mason at the time, who was about to

522
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: be a senior. So I knew I wasn't gonna play there.

523
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: So can tell you it was like Kentucky was the

524
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: only real choice. I knew I was gonna play as

525
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: hard as as crazy as that sounds. When you tell

526
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: kids to go where you know you're gonna play, Kentucky

527
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: was the place that I knew I was gonna start.

528
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna play. And that's that's what

529
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: it was. Really. I took all the visits just to

530
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Speaker 1: take them. Really kids do it. Although it was only

531
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: one year, what was that Kentucky experience? I can playing

532
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: for coach cow Man, it was great, y'all. Like I

533
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: love Kyle. I still talked to col to this day. Um,

534
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: and I mean he really just man. He lets you rock,

535
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: he go. That's why he wants guards like John and

536
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: myself and and be night. Um. You know Tyler Euless,

537
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: the way that he coaches is it's it's like absolute freedom.

538
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: We go out there, we He'll put exits and those back.

539
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: End of the day, everything is gonna end up in

540
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: a pick and roll or isolation. That's that's what the

541
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: NBA is too. So you know, when he's able to

542
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: get those guys, I mean, you find success. Kyle couldn't

543
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: give a damn about you know, winning college basketball games.

544
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, if he if he's getting guys who he

545
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: knows he could end up developing into the NBA players.

546
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: You automatically gonna win thirty games a year just from

547
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: that alone. So that's I mean, that's what I love.

548
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: That's what I loved. He you came in, you earned everything.

549
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: He made you work and ship. At the end of

550
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: the day, I was a top five pick. Bam and

551
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Malik were a lot of your picks. And that's all

552
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: you can ask. What we lost in the early eight

553
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Obviously we as mad as hell, but that wasn't gonna

554
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: make me say it. Actually, so we lost by a

555
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: buzzer beater. Cayle brings us in about twenty minutes after

556
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: he said all y'all are gone, he brought he brought

557
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: us all in there. He said, Yo, y'all are done.

558
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Y'all not coming back. If y'all need us, y'all got

559
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: our numbers, will help you all with whatever, but y'all

560
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: not playing another college basketball game that was you, bam

561
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: and who else? Who was the third leg? Month? Yeah,

562
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: I said, Cal, you ain't gotta tell me twice and

563
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming back anyways. So uh take it back

564
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: real quick before you guys bounce, you guys SEC Tournament

565
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: m v P. You obviously make a run to the

566
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: Elite eight. You have a big matchup in the sweet

567
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: sixteen against my alumni and Alonzo Ball who was you

568
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: know it was you too at the time. As far

569
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 1: as point guards go. You go out there and drop

570
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: thirty nine? What was that? Oh my remember that game

571
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: like yesterday? Man, man, oh my god, that was bad

572
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: for that. It's um real quick though, because U c

573
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: l A came into Kentucky earlier that right, Yeah, so

574
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: they beat us at home. We were number one. We're

575
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: number one team in the country at the time. We

576
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: were averaging the most points in the country at the time,

577
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: and they came in and beat us. So and the

578
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: fund up. Actually, the funked up thing about this too

579
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: is yo, our role to get to the championship was

580
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: so hard. You know, we played we played U c

581
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: l A, who was the number three seed. They were

582
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: top ten team at nont on a fucking uh on

583
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: a Friday night. And then we come back and played

584
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: North Carolina at like two o'clock on Sunday, who was

585
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: the number one team in the country at the time,

586
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: so our ship was our And then we had Wichita

587
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: State in the second round, who I think they were

588
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: like a thirteen seed, shouldn't have been a thirteen seed.

589
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: And we won that game by like two or three.

590
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: So our road was crazy and uh but yeah, now

591
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: that game we just I mean I thought about them

592
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: come into, you know, to our crib and beating us.

593
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: That was the So that team and then North Carolina

594
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: were the two teams we played twice in that year.

595
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: And um, I mean just goes to show man, it's

596
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: hard to be the team twice. It's really hard. But

597
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: you you know, you was thinking, man, I've been I'm

598
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: tired of hearing all this ball, this ball that man,

599
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: listen this Mino Imano. Let me go and show up

600
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: right now because this is gonna help me give to

601
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: what I need to be. He wasn't thinking that. I mean,

602
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: of course that was so for me though. That was

603
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: the only NBA guard that I played that year. Really,

604
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: so like Alonzo played Marquel Uh, Dennis was playing guys

605
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: I can do. Uh, he was a a CC so

606
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: playing Dukee and Ship. I didn't even play another NBA

607
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: guard the whole year, so that was the only matchup

608
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: that they could really, I guess base it off of.

609
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I guess if you go with U, you can say

610
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: the Kansas game too, But I mean Alonso was the

611
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: only starting point guard in the NBA that I played

612
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: when I was in college. Yeah. Yeah, that was a

613
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: big game. Everybody was watching that game. Yeah she was though. Yeah. Yeah.

614
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: So fast forward, Uh, you and BAM end up signing

615
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: your extensions, same money, same time. What is it like

616
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: getting it with one of your brothers, even though obviously

617
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: you guys played for different teams, but going to school

618
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: each for a year, coming out doing your thing, and

619
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: then BAM max deals going into your fourth year. That's

620
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: got to be special, man, to be real, all of us, Uh, Bam, Donovan, Jason.

621
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: I've known Jason since, uh since I was in fourth grade.

622
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: So for all of us to be able to do that, man,

623
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Uh. First person to call me right after

624
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: the news went out, Donovan Face Tommy. Then Um, Donovan,

625
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Jason and I we all have a group. We we

626
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: had a group FaceTime, you know, everybody just kind of celebrating.

627
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: You know, what's what's that check called richest fun? What's

628
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: the what? What's that check out? I might change the name.

629
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I might need to change your name, that young money man.

630
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: We got it, we got it, we got it. It's crazy.

631
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: It's really crazy just just seeing us all kind of

632
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: kind of come up through middle school, high school together

633
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: and they'd be able to do that. Man, it's one.

634
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: It's a blessing for us to all get drafted the

635
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: same draft, all lottery picks. Then we all, you know,

636
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: signed signed this max extension, which ain't easy, you know

637
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All it takes, it takes a lot

638
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: to do that ship. We all know the work. They

639
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: ain't done yet, but man, it's it was really a

640
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: blessing for us. And we talked to each other a lot,

641
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: very frequently. In man, I love them dudes, and I'm

642
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: happy for them just as much as you know they're

643
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: happy for me. So two thousand pick overall by the

644
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings. What was your draft night experience like? And

645
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: did you think you were going somewhere else? No? So

646
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: crazy thing is man, I kind of knew I was

647
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: going file uh because the way it went, Philly was

648
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: trading up to one to get killed. Uh, Alonzo was

649
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: going to no matter what. UM. I knew Boston didn't

650
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: need a point guard. They had actually at Kyrie at

651
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: the time, so they took Jason. Actually canceled my workout

652
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: in Phoenix because they had b night bled uh Tyler

653
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Uless at the time, they had three point guards. I'm like,

654
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: why if I would go to Phoenix, So I cancel

655
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: that workout and then uh Sack was there. I'm like, man,

656
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: you know what it would be like to turn around

657
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: a franchise like that, That would be crazy. So I was.

658
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: I was excited to go there. I didn't work out

659
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: for Orlando, who was after that, or Chicago. Those are

660
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: the worked out for three teams and Lakers, which I

661
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't worked out for that was really wasted tom

662
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: uh Phoenix and then and then it sacked and you

663
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: knew there was there, So I was, you know, up

664
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area and then moved to Sack at nine.

665
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Was always a huge Laker fan, but once I got

666
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: there and and understood how passionate those fans are about

667
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: their team because there ain't sh else out there. Like

668
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: as you know now, there ain't much to do out there.

669
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Obviously in COVID there's nothing to do, but there's not

670
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: much to do. But the one thing I will say

671
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: is that fan base is special. And when you're a

672
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: young player and leave it out out there on the court,

673
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna love you. So what has that been like?

674
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: Obviously this year being different, but your first couple of

675
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: years in the process of trying to turn the team around.

676
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: But what was that fan base and how supportive if

677
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: they bene view ship? My first year we were bad.

678
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: We were real bad. And you know we're selling out

679
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: just about every home game every night though it you

680
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you anywhere you go, you're gonna

681
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: have sack fans. You're on from Sacramento, man, I love

682
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: the Kings. You know, everybody to bring up the obviously

683
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: you know the Chris Webber and the Mike Bibbie days

684
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: and you know, wishing to get back to that, and

685
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm trying to do. That's what

686
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring back to this city. And um,

687
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean you really just hear the passion in these

688
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: in these guys man, it's it's it's like it's it's

689
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: a different type of love for this team. You know,

690
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: obviously I think our our soccer team just went MLS.

691
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: But it's it's Kings, man, It's it's Kings fans all

692
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: over and there there yet really die hard. Mm hmmm.

693
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: So what's it like being only in your fourth theater

694
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: but being somewhat of a vet now you know you've

695
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: got a young player like Tyrese uh Hillaburton who's hurt

696
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: right now, but having younger guys turned to you for

697
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: advice when you're still a young guy. Hey, I'm be

698
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: feeling oldest. I'm twenty three, I'll be feeling Oh yeah,

699
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: I feel like i've been in the leaving come on,

700
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: come on, come on, hey, but uh what was you

701
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: doing there? Jack? Okay, I can't even do it. I

702
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: can't do it, man, I've been this, I got models.

703
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: This ain't even the episode to say what I was

704
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: doing at twenty three. Then this ain't even it. I've been.

705
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean i've been. I've been in there for a while.

706
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: And then Tyrese was born and I think two thousands

707
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: and thousand one, like that really makes me feel That

708
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: made me feel a little bit old with him today.

709
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, you don't even remember the president before

710
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: Obama like he was. That's how young you were. That's insane.

711
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: What if your thoughts been on him so far though?

712
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Who could possibly be the steel of the draft? Man,

713
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: six five wing, multidimensional, could shoot the ball. What have

714
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: your thoughts been on him so far? Hey, he's been great. Man,

715
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: It's you would have thought he's he's in his second

716
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: or third year, the way that he'd be out there,

717
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: that he's out there playing, and for them, for these

718
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: rookies to not get any summer league, a short training camp,

719
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: just come in, you got your team. You you found

720
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: out who you was playing with a month before the

721
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: season start. That's like, you know what I'm saying, that's

722
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of adversity that you really gotta go that

723
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: you really got to overcome. And Man, his first game

724
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: in the league, he played in an overtime game in Denver,

725
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it's tough to play in Denver, and

726
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: he was and he really he really showed that he's

727
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean that he's built for this and he really can. Man,

728
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: he he just he understands the game so well, he

729
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: runs pick and roll extremely well, he's he's a good shooter,

730
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: like you said, he does, he does everything extremely well

731
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: for us, and UM, I mean we're missing him right now. Um,

732
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: now follow me with this because I'm not I'm not

733
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: trying to be messy, but I just want to get

734
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Obviously with recently the Marvin Bagley father situation

735
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: and then and then and then your dad says something.

736
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: But Yo, when I read your response to what had

737
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: been said that, I really couldn't stop laughing at like

738
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: three straight you just said Jesus Christ with the ex

739
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: like what the fuck you? We're in a new age obviously,

740
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: where you know, I commend any fathers that have their

741
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: kids back, and I understand the whole thing, but not

742
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't think dad's because they're new to the social

743
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: media game, understanding the power they have at the palm

744
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: of their hands. So they're tweeting things that they may

745
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: tell your mom or your family or not even your family,

746
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: but other you know, Marcus, are Marvin's dad doing what

747
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: he does? How does that? How do you guys keep

748
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: that energy um out of the locker room and and

749
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: keep you you guys on the same page because the

750
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: parents think they're just speaking, but they're not realizing that

751
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: what they're saying is going to go around the world

752
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: and on every new station get all kinds of coverage. Yeah, man,

753
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I told I saw it. Fifteen minutes after the tweet

754
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: went up. Response, he just said, Jesus Christ. Next, what

755
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: the He's like, what the fun iscause y'all I started

756
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: getting I'm getting tagged and ship. I'm like, Yo, what's

757
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: going on? So I see you on Twitter FaceTime. I

758
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: was actually on FaceTime with my fiance at the time,

759
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: and uh, I see that ship. I'm like, Bro, what

760
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: the fuck? I'm like, Yeah, now I'm about to be

761
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: pulling in some ship that I didn't want to be involve. Man,

762
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: you're not like, So I text my dad and then

763
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: I text the group with my dad, mom, and brother

764
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, y'all, like, I can't do this ship

765
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: because regardless of regardless of anything y'all say, is not

766
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: gonna ask y'all. They don't ask me about it. And

767
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're like, y'all gotta start thinking about me

768
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: before y'all put anything on the internet exactly. And the

769
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: thing is like I know my pops, you know Mississippi

770
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: a Mississippi born and raised. The second he probably saw

771
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that tweet, he let me, let me tweet this ship.

772
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: I know he did. He ain't thinking twice about it, right,

773
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: But for your question, like with the locker room, we

774
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: we said something about it, but like nobody's really worried

775
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: about it. To be honest, his parents, it ain't nobody.

776
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: Nobody's thinking about that at all. Like and people think,

777
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to do like I'm just trying to,

778
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, say it to the media. But like I

779
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: told my people, like yo, no one fucking tweets Somebody

780
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: give a funk about that ship. Like nobody thinks we go.

781
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: We we had a practice, we had a game. Nobody's

782
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: thinking about that ship. Obviously we gotta ask what yesterday,

783
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: But we just gotta ask what. You know, what I'm saying,

784
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: fucking Kelly ain't made it. And I thought and me

785
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: and Kelly played together. We played air You together, but

786
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Kelly A Kelly's was sucking one for forty and he

787
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: hits four threes against us, you know, I mean it

788
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: just it was their night and they played better than us.

789
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: But as far as that tweet that the Twitter stuff

790
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: goes man, nobody, nobody was worried about that. That's but

791
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: if there's no room for none of that and the

792
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: locker room though, yeah, there's there's no room for none

793
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: of that. And then then again, Matt, you know, I'm

794
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: gonna say this, should if Marvin and throw hands been

795
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: up with with Dame Ship, ain't nobody been not throw hands?

796
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: Everything better be cool in the locker room? Well, I

797
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: think it's also you know, like a teaching moment, you know,

798
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: for parents, you know what I mean. Well, he had

799
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: to pull up on his mom, dad and brother, like

800
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: you have to realize, you know, although you may feel

801
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: this way, you know what I mean, it's me that

802
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: you have to think about because your name won't be

803
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: in the paper. They'll say, you know, obviously Dearran's dad,

804
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: but it's dear and this in the spotlight, you know.

805
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: And it's similar to criticism that that you know that

806
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: the LaVar is taking because he's speaking on behalf of

807
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: his sons, and his sons are like, yo, what the funk? Now?

808
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: People are thinking this is me, but it's not me.

809
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: And so it's like you said, it's a new age,

810
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna become the new norm.

811
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you guys were able to put the

812
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: fire out because you know, you've got to be able

813
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: to block the good and the bad out in that

814
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: locker room. Only the motherfucker's I saw Luke won't and

815
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: talk about I played with Luke, and I mean, I'm

816
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: old school, so I know the deals. All the outside noise.

817
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: This nick is crazy, it's crazy. But that that didn't

818
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: even more, that didn't even by, that didn't even bagle

819
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: him motor like here, laid back cat, you know what

820
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that ain't even him, Like that's the

821
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: that's the little homie, Like he ain't even know you

822
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, conversation a guy like that, You

823
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I knew, you know what

824
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That it was all It was all gonna

825
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: go away with just the fact that people on the outside,

826
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: like y'all said they gotta pay attention and stuff like that,

827
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: because it can't affect a locker room not knowing. Yeah,

828
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: and for us, man, if we if if we would

829
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: have won, that game should have been over. Nobody would

830
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: have talked about it, no more, most likely, but right

831
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: we got blown out and everybody think the chemistry sucked

832
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: up and now it's just a whole another thing that

833
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: you gotta listen to. The only way to the only

834
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: way to write that ship is to win. But what

835
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: was it like catching uh steps on the motherfucking tear

836
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: right now? People been talking crazy to him and your

837
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: team was one of the teams that had to pay

838
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: the consequences for it. Like playing, I mean you couldn't.

839
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: You could be the fastest dude in the NBA from

840
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: from in the end, but I played with Steph and

841
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: playing against step his his they say he runs almost

842
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: three miles of a game off just his movement alone.

843
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: What was it like having to chase his little ass

844
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: around and him drop thirty on you guys? Guarding him

845
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: is like hell? Because like yo, because they don't even

846
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: really I mean, they run a few plays, but if

847
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Steph don't have the ball, the person who got the

848
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: ball looking for Steph, if Steph don't have the ball,

849
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: and niggas who don't have the ball looking the screen

850
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: for Steff, he don't stop ever. Ever, if he starts walking,

851
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: you know he's about to take off. You know what,

852
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: You're in trouble catching him right after sixty. Don't don't.

853
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Don't let that happen to us. But the clothes line

854
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: this nig if he if he started, I step know

855
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: how I feel. I was on the wards when Brandon

856
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Jennis game fifty five, so he know how I feel too. Yeah,

857
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: But that fifty five was different from what he'd be doing.

858
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: Man was sick his movement always every game. He a

859
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: threat to get every game, ye now more than ever

860
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: because the rest of his weapons aren't really But I've

861
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: seen one play that was funny, and I knew it

862
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: was coming too, because you picked him up, maybe right

863
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: at half court, and he threw the ball to Draymond

864
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: on the blocking for one second you looked away and

865
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: he cut back door and got you on the back

866
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: door cut. And it just shows like he is always

867
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: live on everything. And that's the hardest thing is the

868
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: team that he has right now still doesn't know how

869
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: to play with them. So you've got a chance to

870
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: play with them. You know, when they won a championship

871
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: in seventeen and you had to chase him around with

872
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: other stars on the court, And like you said, when

873
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: you're not one of those main three scores, Clay, Katie

874
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: or Steph. You're looking to always screen for those guys

875
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: no matter what, and if you have the ball, you're

876
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: looking for them. Motherfucker. So to have to guard them

877
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: as a nightmare, said I Man playing them two years

878
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: ago when they had k and they had Katie. Hey,

879
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: that's the worst feeling over. That was the worst ship

880
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: ever because we uh so one of the years we

881
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: lost to them because you know, we're playing four times,

882
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: so we lost them four times by a total of ten.

883
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: Going into them games, man, it was like, yeah, these

884
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: things just want a championship, you know, like like you're

885
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: getting obviously you're getting, you're playing, you're trying to play

886
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 1: your best. If you play your best against that team,

887
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: they still have to play bad for you to really

888
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: win that game, real bad. And the way the dudes

889
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: were in the clutch, obviously having having played Stephen Katie, man,

890
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: it was we're playing great and it's impo. It was

891
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: like it felt like it was impossible to beat them.

892
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy, especially trying to go a shot for shot

893
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: with them because they had so many shot makers. As

894
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You gotta get steals and try

895
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: to turn them over as a young player coming into

896
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: the game, obviously everyone is a competitor now, But who

897
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: were some of the older point guard you looked up

898
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: to our possibly monitor your game after when you were

899
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: first coming into the league. So when I first got

900
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: the league, guys that I really wanted, just like Russ

901
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: Kai uh CP. Obviously, you know, they all played the

902
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: game extremely different from each other, but they all had

903
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: different ways of really affecting the game. You know, Russ

904
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: with the way he's coming at you, you know what

905
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, He's gonna come at you a thousand miles

906
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: per hour for forty minutes. Every second that he out there,

907
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: he going hard. Um CP just the way he really

908
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: manipulated the game. You know, he's he's a king of

909
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: pick and roll, even at thirty five years old. And

910
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: then Kai just the way that he could he can

911
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: come at you with different ways with pull ups, puts,

912
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: you drop, you get to the basket, the way he

913
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: can finish under the rim. You know. So those are

914
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: really three guys that I really I really tried to

915
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: study when I first got in the league. Well, you

916
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: came into a league that's driven by guards, Now, who

917
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: are some of the guys you look forward to? I

918
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: mean obviously every night as someone new, but who are

919
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: some of the guys like, okay, got like tonight, we

920
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: got Dame tonight, we got step Who are some of

921
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: the guys you're like, Okay, I gotta go tonight And

922
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: and this league in a right now every game, yes,

923
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: you gotta you ship. We play Chicago next and even

924
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: a kid like Kobe White can get thirty, you know

925
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: what I mean? After that, we got Toronto with Kyle.

926
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: It's every it'sn't every night thing trying to play this position.

927
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: If you ain't ready, you get your head cracked open

928
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: trying to trying to play higher. Well, that's how it was.

929
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: That's how it was with us with Wings when me

930
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: and Jack were coming in, it was a wing driven league.

931
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: Your twos and threes where your go to. Guys. Now

932
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: it's more point guards. But that's what I'm saying. Every

933
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: night for us, it was k D. Mellow, d Wade, Kobe, Jenobli,

934
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Mac t Mac Jack, our test like you name it.

935
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: Every night you had Paul Pierce. Every night, you had

936
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: your hand fulls. It was and that was as a

937
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: defensive player. I loved it. So I know that with

938
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: with it being such a heavy point guard driven league,

939
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: every night is just it's time to go. And then

940
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: for us man like you know, a lot of times

941
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: you'll put your in up, your best defender. So a

942
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of times I get like long the long athletic

943
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: wing guy garden me. So it's, uh, it's different because

944
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm actually guarding the guards. You know, I'm

945
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: guarding the trades and dames and stuffs and Kyrie's and

946
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm staying on those guys. So it's it's it's a lot.

947
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot to do that and then still

948
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, pick up, picking up on offense while trying

949
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: to stop these guys. It's should take a lot. Now,

950
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: people that go both fends, you know that that's definitely

951
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: an unsunk thing because some guys don't go both fends.

952
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: So to be able to guard someone on the other

953
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: end and the average night that it ain't no easy feat.

954
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: That's why you get the big bucks, slimp fella, That's

955
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: why you get the big bucks. Uh, talk to us

956
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: about Kobe Bryant. You wear shoes, went to a skill camp.

957
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: What did Kobe mean to you man. Kobe was big

958
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: m and crazy thing is we won one night um

959
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: in Portland's I was able to sit with Code in

960
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: a library for three hours. It was meet him and

961
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: maybe four other people, and I was able to sit

962
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: with him for about three or four hours man, from

963
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: like it was probably eleven pm to three am, just

964
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: sitting in there talking man. And that's that's one of

965
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: the that's something that kind of I mean, it sat

966
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: with me most obviously when he passed away, because this

967
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: is something that literally a year and a half before

968
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: it happened, I was able to have a sit down

969
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: with Code that even I actually didn't even tell my

970
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: brother about him, and he was he's a big Kobe fan.

971
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: But like, that's that's something that I'm extremely extremely grateful for,

972
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: you know what i mean, everybody don't get that, you know,

973
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: if some people might get a picture or autograph, one

974
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: little conversation, just being able to be there after Code

975
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: was done. Um, it was going into my second year

976
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: and man, that was that's something I always think about,

977
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, what if that didn't happen, you know then

978
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: and now the obviously the Kobe thing hit me even

979
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: even harder because I was able to actually have this

980
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: personal interaction with him. I mean, he was big, you

981
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: know what he what he did for the game, what

982
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: he did while he was playing, you know, I mean,

983
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: you know that motherfucker made tough shots and he got

984
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: the green light to shoot fifty of them. So it

985
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: was it's a it's a different animal when somebody at

986
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: a green like that light. He don't care if he

987
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: missed forty nine in a row. He's still gonna shoot that.

988
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing about a lot of guys now,

989
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: like Steph. It's when when when somebody can shoot that

990
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: many times and it don't matter, it's hard times harder

991
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: to guard. Absolutely. But I remember, I remember seeing all

992
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: the Christmas Day was showing all those holiday games. Man

993
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: nobody wanted problems with code. Man, nobody wanted problems with

994
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: cold on the holiday game. Everybody was going home. The biggest,

995
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: the bigger the stage, the better he was. He thrived

996
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: on those. He thrived on those. I mean, it's but

997
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: he was also someone that you said, you got you

998
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: know three for our conversation. He was someone that it

999
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: was weird like him and John Wooden and the handful

1000
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: of time I talked talked to Nipsey, it always seemed like,

1001
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: no matter what we were talking about, you were learning.

1002
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Did you give that feeling when you had that conversation

1003
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: with Code, whether you were talking about sports, a life

1004
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: for business, or family. I always felt like I was

1005
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: just sitting there soaking up game. Yeah, man, he I

1006
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: mean he was a teacher, you know what I mean,

1007
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Like he he was a student first when he grew up,

1008
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: when he was coming up, and then he became the teacher.

1009
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: And he's, like you said, like, man, when he had

1010
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: the camp, you know what I'm saying, that's that's from

1011
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: his own He just wants to teach guys that are

1012
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, and that's rare to think about,

1013
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: like a superstar that has this personal invite camp that

1014
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: wants to drop game to the next generation, Like that

1015
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: doesn't normally happen. Yeah, So that's why that's why I

1016
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: was big for for all the young guys that was there,

1017
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: And like I said, that's why Kobe has such an

1018
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: impact on the game today. M hmm. Alright, man. Quick

1019
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: hitters were at the end of the conversation. So we're

1020
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna give you a couple of quick hitters. First thing

1021
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: to come to mind. Let you know, let us know,

1022
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: so top five artists, you wouldn't mind being name dropped

1023
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: by top five artists? You gotta go all right, I'm

1024
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: from New Orleans, come on, you know that? So little Wayne,

1025
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: that's that's number one. Um, I'll go. I'll go Wayne,

1026
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: Nikki because the young money, uh Drake who wouldn't want

1027
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: to be named John by Drake right now? Right we're

1028
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: talking about right now just in general whatever. Actually, I'll

1029
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: go Ja jay Z and uh the one more probably

1030
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: probably Geez I love you. I really that would be

1031
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: my father. There you go, Wayne, Wayne was easy. Wayne

1032
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: was the easiest one of them. Yeah. Wayne was easy. Yeah,

1033
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: that's easy one. That's easy one for me. Okay, I

1034
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: hear that you big on the game. We're on live

1035
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: stream of your game. I am too. I play C

1036
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: O D A lot. What other games are you playing?

1037
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: You know what you're currently playing beside c L D Um,

1038
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I'll be on two k be on the park gets

1039
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: toxic as fuck. Um. I played Spider Man for a

1040
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, I was gonna get into Assassin's Creed

1041
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: just little one little story mode games because the online

1042
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm on either two kre or COD. That's what

1043
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: I played online. Everything else really just little uh little

1044
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: role playing games or g t A jack Jack thinks

1045
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: he's nice to call a duty. Yeah, yeah, we well

1046
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: we we ended our first tournament, but two weeks ago

1047
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: and we won the first tournament, so we're on our

1048
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: way there a little gaming league or what? Yeah, it

1049
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: was it actually the Cold Tournament. Twenty teams. That's tough.

1050
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: War zone yeah, war zone. Hey, let me let me

1051
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: actually not the question though, if you had to, if

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Speaker 1: you had to pick uh five players, five retired players

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00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: for your two K team, what would they be? Can

1054
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: you think it's played the game or not? Who would

1055
00:51:53,160 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: be on your team? Who retired players? Jordan Yes, Ai

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00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: Magic nice. Oh my god, I'm going KG. That's my

1057
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: all time favorite player, and uh I go shock oh

1058
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: man hands a good squad. Yeah. I was gonna throw

1059
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: some shooters in there. But the way the game was ship,

1060
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna punish people in the paint. We're gonna get

1061
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: that money. That's that's that's still how you win. You

1062
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you gotta punish people, straight sir, straight up.

1063
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: Top five point guards in your opinion in the history

1064
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: of the game. Who's real subjective? But we're gonna go magic.

1065
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: You gotta throw Steph in there. I don't care what

1066
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: nobody say. You gotta throw stuff in there now. Yeah,

1067
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: so Magic Steph. See, a lot of people are gonna

1068
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: be left out. We'll go Isaiah CP, m hmm, and

1069
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: one more Isaiah CP and UM A lot of guys.

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00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: Damn If i'mnna just throw one more, I'll go um

1071
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: top five man uh So I went Magic, Steph CP, Isaiah, Yeah,

1072
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: and I'll go Um. I'll really go Chauncey I think

1073
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: in his in his prom and then the way he

1074
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: the way he defended, like I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna throw.

1075
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean him and Isaiah. I'm gonna throw them defenders

1076
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: in there, even CP and he CP has been on

1077
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: multiple all defensive teams, ye, both sides of the ball

1078
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: and big shot. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with

1079
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: those five who could who could possibly beat you baseline?

1080
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: The baseline with the dribble, anybody with the dribble. I

1081
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: think you're still John Ai prim TP de Rose, Tony

1082
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: I hold on if you let Tony Parker put the

1083
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: ball his right hand ain't nobody be I'm sorry, I'm

1084
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: sorry if you got to go to the left, If

1085
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: you got to go to the left, are hes gonna

1086
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: knock everybody else down on the court. But if he

1087
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: could put it, if if you put in his right hand,

1088
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: can't nobody. He's the fastest thing on earth that. I

1089
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: definitely say that. I definitely say those four. I think

1090
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: I said for mm hmmm, fast as a motherfucker. Uh.

1091
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: If you had to do an outside game, you plus

1092
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: four people, who are you take into the park with

1093
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: you for a pickup game? Hey, I'm taking Kai Katie.

1094
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: I'm side game. See if I could take cold, I'm

1095
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: taking Cold. These are just people who can hope anywhere. Yeah, right,

1096
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. I'll take Will Barton, Philly guy

1097
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: buckets anywhere we'll get to. Uh, I'll take someone like uh,

1098
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: someone like a d you know what I'm saying. At

1099
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: least at least have a little big out there to

1100
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: do something. But the first one is Kai Katie, Will Barton,

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00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: Um them dude, you know that can hoop at the park.

1102
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: You know they don't get you. You know they're gonna

1103
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: get you. Buddies at the park. I love it. Five

1104
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: five dinner guests alive are deceased. Five dinner guests all

1105
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: UH athletes, all basketball players, know anybody, anybody, anybody you

1106
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: look up to, anybody, Who are you coming to your

1107
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: dinner table? Ship I got I'll go Kevin Hart, nice funny,

1108
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: I gotta have lass. Shit, I'm gonna pick one of y'all.

1109
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: Which one of y'all trying to come? We can just

1110
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: count this one. Yeah, I'm gonna put up both of y'all.

1111
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: So that's one that's too the first time we've that's dope.

1112
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: Appreciate k oh Um. I would go somebody like either

1113
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Malcolm X yes, h I would go like an artist

1114
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: like um, you know pop Hove, you know someone like that.

1115
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: So you got the comedian y'all to have comedians because

1116
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: n is funny. Then you got I'll just I'll say

1117
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Hove and then me. So that's fine. That's that's what's up,

1118
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: Jack Gold and finish this this your this is your

1119
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: questions ahead and finish it. Okay. Before you answer this

1120
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: question your answer, you have to help us with your answer.

1121
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: Did you get what I said? I gotta help you

1122
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: all with my answer? Yeah? Before I ask you this question.

1123
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: Whatever your answer is going to be, you have to

1124
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: help us with your answer. Do you make sense that

1125
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: ask the question? I'm just I'm just her. She understand

1126
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: that before I asked the question. All right, this is

1127
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: the question. Who would you like to see on all

1128
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: the smoke? Okay, okay, um, I'm trying to get y'all.

1129
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: N that's really gonna that's gonna really lie. You know

1130
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Not sure, cold nothing. Uh who I

1131
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: want to see on all smoke? I'll say, Uh, either

1132
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: j T justin I mean Jason or Bam. J We

1133
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: had j T. He blessed us too. Yeah, help us

1134
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: get BAM there and shout out to j T. To

1135
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: j T something his shirt that he wore to the

1136
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: playoffs with a picture of me and my clippers jersey

1137
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: with my with George Ford name on the back man,

1138
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: to show love to George. Yeah, he's something. I just

1139
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: got it last week, so I appreciate it. Bro word

1140
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: shout out man, Thank you dear for your time. Man.

1141
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the way. Chris, we appreciate

1142
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: your time as well. You can catch this something Showtime

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00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: Basketball YouTube. The I Heart Black Effects Network will catch

1144
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: you next week. Peace This is All a Smoke, A

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00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,360
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