1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we can't wait to see 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: what the Season one cliffhanger is going to be from 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the SeeU next Tuesday crew, Yes, for the last time 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: in season one. I don't know why we're calling it 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: season one. It's Greg Rosenthal, Jordan Rodriege of The Athletic, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: and Colleen Wolf in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: What is happening? 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 3: Can't believe it's been a year. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: We are yeah, I mean kind of a year as 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: a crew. I went back and checked, but we are 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: breaking at least for a few weeks. It's the NFL 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: off season. We've got an exciting series that's going to 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: be coming up on NFL Daily. But it'll be a 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: little while before we all get back together. They'll probably 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: be sending you around during training camp to all over 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: the place, so I don't know when we'll be back 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: together again. So, yes, this is the season one finale. 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Greg. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 4: This is called celebrating an anniversary. Yes, okay, so like this, 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: this is what you do you celebrate friendship. 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: It's been one year. 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: Technically it's a couple weeks where a couple weeks away. Gift. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: I don't know where you you took a couple more 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: weeks to show up, if I. 25 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: Remember correctly, to the Future of this World I. 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: Met last year. But yeah, I didn't hear about that. 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: How was the Drexel commencements. 28 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 4: Oh it was good. I haven't posted anything yet. I'm 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: really backlocked, so I have to go back. But it 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: was nice. It was fun. 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: It was good. 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: It turned out not too bad. I got some laughs, 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 4: some of my jokes landed. Got an applause when I 34 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: even went into a political situation that was very risky and. 35 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 5: It worked so off love that. 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh that is amazing. 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: It's very cool. 38 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: It was really life moment. And for your dad to 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: be able to I watched that. I can only imagine 40 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: how how proud you well. 41 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: And I apologize to my dad for telling him that 42 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: H and M was a bookstore on campus when it 43 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: came up on the credit card, because that just, you know, 44 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: to get them. I needed to get that off my shoulders. 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: That's on him, right, I know. 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: But it was. It was awesome. 47 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: It was so hot in Phendelphia and it was like 48 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: ninety five degrees it was outside but covered. And then 49 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 4: they were like, okay, and here's your regalia and it 50 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: was this like polyesterh Yeah, there all gown and I 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: was wearing this light khaki set like a pants and best. 52 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: I sweat all the way through it. And then I 53 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: had to give the gown back to that gross and 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: I wanted to die because I what was a light 55 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: khaki set was now a dark khaki set in select spots. 56 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: It was really cool. 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: She's got rain. Hey how about that he wave country? 58 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: You know, uh, get in the toxins. Now you had 59 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: a big moment. 60 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Last week. I was in Massachusetts visiting my parents. I 61 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: got to see my son beat my father in tennis. 62 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Now I got to see him like one on one. 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: They were building it up as the match of the century. 64 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: My dad was very confident he could still get it done. 65 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: So to see that sort of passing of the torch 66 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: and my dad handle the loss just as poorly as 67 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: when we would beat him like as kids. 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Oh stuff was amazing. 69 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 5: I love that. 70 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 6: I was in Brooklyn. I was helping my twin sister, Maddie, 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 6: the scientist. We've talked about her on the show before, 72 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 6: helping her move. I don't recommend carrying boxes of couches 73 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: up a third floor walk up, but I. 74 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: Feel like boxes of couches. 75 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 5: Yet her couch. 76 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 6: Came in six different pieces, so each one of the pieces, 77 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 6: you know, goes up the three sets of stairs in 78 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 6: a heat wave. Might I also add, but I love her? 79 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 5: I love her. 80 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: It also seems like that's the last time that I'll 81 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: have at a certain point in life. You realize, like, 82 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: let's grow up and get some help with these movies. 83 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: But you're I'll accept it. 84 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: I was the help. 85 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: You're not quite there. I know I'm the same she did. 86 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm telling her to grow up. 87 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: You to grow up, and like, next time around, We're 88 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: not doing it this way. I'm excited about this show. 89 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what we've learned in this 90 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: year together. How do you even quantify it in terms 91 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: of the see you next Tuesday crew. It could be life, 92 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: It can be football. Some of it definitely should be football, 93 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: but it can be anything, anything that you've learned over 94 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the last year. And one of the things that I've 95 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: learned is we can't take one of these shows on 96 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Tuesday without having an Aaron Rodgers story. Whether it was 97 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: like Robert Salad getting fired, it's Aaron Rodgers adjacent. There 98 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: was all this other jet stuff that was always happening 99 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It's been a lot of Rogers talk this 100 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: offseason in general, and so we'll just start there because 101 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: that's the news of it all. But that is one 102 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: thing I learned was just like that Tuesday is a 103 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: day to talk Rogers, and he was on the Pat 104 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: McAfee Show on Tuesday. 105 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: Let's listen to what he had to say. 106 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 7: I didn't need this, you know, I didn't need it 107 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 7: at all. I don't feel the need to prove anything 108 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 7: to anybody, or don't have any chip on my shoulder 109 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 7: that I need to hold on to. I don't want 110 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 7: the attention. I know that's a narrative out there. When 111 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 7: this is all done, it's Kaisers said, you won't see me. 112 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 7: I won't be in the public I don't want to 113 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 7: live a public. 114 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Life, promise. 115 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 5: This sounds like a job for CJ consulting. 116 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: It does, it does? 117 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: That's Colleen and Jordan consulting for anyone out there that 118 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: needs any type of consulting, any title. 119 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: Literally, any type of consulting. We got it all. 120 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: He says that it's likely his final season in the 121 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: NFL on the on the Pat McVie Show, I'm pretty 122 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: sure it is, and then we won't see him. And 123 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: one way I think the consulting firm could make their 124 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: money is and say, like, if you don't like a 125 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: narrative that's out there, don't say the narrative that's out 126 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: there and push against it. It makes you seem like 127 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: that it bothers. 128 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: You on the internet that I'm mad. Yeah. 129 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 6: The interesting thing is, Okay, So this is a man 130 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 6: who has been in the public eye for over twenty 131 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: years at this point, certainly at the highest level of 132 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 6: the NFL, but also for other reasons, his own his beliefs, 133 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 6: his personal opinions and comments that are often shared on 134 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 6: the Pat McAfee show every week, and also was a 135 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 6: possible and sort of leaked candidate for like a vice 136 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 6: presidential campaign as well. 137 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: So I'm my point of all of this, I really am. 138 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 6: I really want to know what if he's being if 139 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 6: he's being honest here, what shifted, because this was very 140 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 6: much a person who was in the spotlight and wants 141 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 6: to be in the public eye for him, if he's 142 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 6: being truthful about what he's saying now, I am I'm 143 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: deeply curious to know kind of what's been happening over 144 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 6: the last couple of months, or. 145 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: You nobody watched his Netflix doc. 146 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 5: In his heath that was it in his life. 147 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 6: Really, I'm really curious to know, like what the psychological 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 6: shift here was, if there indeed is one, right. 149 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that going on McAfee every week 150 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: is something that he's choosing to do while saying that 151 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: he doesn't want the extra attention, and he goes on 152 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: McAfee and talks about all sorts of stuff. So if 153 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: you don't want to be in the public eye, you 154 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: could just be a quarterback that doesn't do any of 155 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: the extra curricular things. It doesn't seem like he needs 156 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: the money or just exactly you could be a little 157 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: bit more anonymous. But he is Aaron Rodgers and that 158 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: comes with a territory. He's had a great career. He's 159 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: still a really good well talent in terms of when 160 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: you look back at all of the quarterbacks that have 161 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: played in this league. 162 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: But he's so polarizing. 163 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: And when he says that he doesn't have a chip 164 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: on his shoulder, and he says it in a way 165 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: that you are like, of course, you have a chip 166 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: on your shoulder, it sounds like you have a chip 167 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: on your shoulder. 168 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 6: Like, and it's okay to have a chip on your 169 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 6: shoulder you're a football player, Like you need to build 170 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: those kind of like false ghosts or enemies up. All 171 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: of the greats, all the legends in the sport have 172 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 6: done that in order to push themselves into more competitive territory. 173 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: I think it's fine if he had like this whole 174 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 6: like seeking peace. I think there's like a duality happening 175 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 6: here with him. And I'm not going to try to 176 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 6: psychoanalyze this person, I promise, But like I remember watching 177 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 6: Andrew Whitworth and the preparation that he took in the 178 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 6: off season when he knew it was going to be 179 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 6: his last year, and he knew that the RAM we're 180 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 6: going to try to go for a Super Bowl, and 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: he was forty years old and he's going to be 182 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: the oldest left tackle playing in history, and like he 183 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 6: he put his body and his mind through absolute, uh, 184 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 6: just the most exaggerated regimen and training and like made 185 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 6: it very clear that this was he's going all out. 186 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: This is not a this is not a seeking of peace, 187 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: of joy, of happiness kind of the things that Aaron 188 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 6: Rodgers is talking about he wants and it's okay to 189 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 6: want those things, but if you're trying to go out 190 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 6: without the bad taste in your mouth, the rare thing 191 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 6: that nobody in football, almost nobody gets to do that, 192 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 6: very small outliers such as Andrew Whitworth got to do 193 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 6: win a Super Bowl and then say he's retiring, like 194 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: you have to, you have to let the demon out 195 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 6: a little bit. 196 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: I think it's okay. 197 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I think he's just lowering expectations. It's to himself too. 198 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: I think he The main reason he's coming back seems 199 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: to be he wants to go out on a better note. Yeah, 200 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: on a better note, but yeah, he he knows there's 201 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: got to be part of him that's not fully confident 202 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: in that because of the way that he played last 203 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: year and the way it went, And so he's going 204 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: into it saying, this is likely my last year. Ultimately, 205 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: this is kind of a nothing burger of a story 206 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: because a, it would be likely his last year if 207 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: he didn't play well anyways, and then me, he's saying likely, 208 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: so if he played, you know, he might change his 209 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: mind because he if he does play well. But it 210 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: seems to be setting the expectations low enough that no 211 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: matter what happens, he's gonna be okay with that because 212 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: he knows in his heart like he's going to have 213 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: to be okay with it. He doesn't know if it's 214 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna go well, And it just seems like a bad 215 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: way if you're a Steelers fan and you're hearing like, 216 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: this is probably it. 217 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: I've only got one more where I don't really need 218 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: to do this. 219 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: You keep hearing that phrase that it's a cliche, But 220 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: it's a cliche because because it's true that like, once 221 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: you're already thinking about retirement, you're kind of you're kind 222 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: of half retired, and I just don't expect it to 223 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: go well. 224 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: Also, he just sounds so defeated, and in terms of 225 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: just energy and people and vibes that you're putting out there, 226 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 4: he just doesn't sound ever like he's happy. He always 227 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 4: sounds like there's like he's just like underlying, he's just angry. 228 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: And I hate that for him, And so I'm doing 229 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 4: essentially the thing that I hate that men do to 230 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: women when they're like why. 231 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: Don't you smile? More like why why are you so angry? 232 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: But I'm kind of like I don't know, like if 233 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: the vibes were a little bit more positive, maybe we 234 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: would be more positive. 235 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean everyone like he's hanging out with the coaches. 236 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 6: I'm i gonna regret this listening to the Trexel speech 237 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 6: right now. 238 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: All right, that's enough time on Aaron Rodgers. We did it. 239 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: We did it, uh well, all year all year long. 240 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: But it is an interesting way to frame this season 241 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: for Rogers. We'll see if he makes it through, we 242 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: might we might see will Hart Howard starting games by 243 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: the end of the Steelers season. If it does not 244 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: go well. All right, what we've learned this is very 245 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: open ended. Why don't we start with with Colleen It can. 246 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: Be in okay. 247 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: I will then start with defensive coordinators, new defensive coordinators. 248 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: Year one defensive coordinators. 249 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: They made a fantastic first impression. I feel like last 250 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: year when you look around the league in Baltimore, in Miami, 251 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 4: in Green Bay with the Chargers, even though Mike McDonald 252 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: is a defensive coach, in Seattle, even his DC did 253 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: a really good job. And all of those places, they 254 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: all made a significant change to the defense. They kind 255 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: of put their own stamp on it and all finished 256 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: as top ten defenses in EPA. So when you think 257 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: about what zach Orr did in Baltimore, he made those 258 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: changes to the secondary and then all of a sudden 259 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: that looked like a totally different unit. And then in 260 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: Miami after mcfangio, Miami. 261 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: Why do I do it? 262 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: I don't know in my head every time when mcfangio left, 263 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: just the change there, they kind of went back to 264 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: basics and made things a little bit simpler. And then 265 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: obviously the Chargers they moved Derwin James around. So just 266 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: all of these first year defensive coordinators kind of made 267 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: their mark on the defenses and did a really good job. 268 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: So I'm interested to. 269 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 4: See how that plays with some of the new DC's 270 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 4: coming in this year. 271 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I Liam, Yeah, yeah, I liked. I like 272 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 6: this point too, because you noted the adjustments that several 273 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 6: of these coordinators had to make. 274 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 5: Midway through the year. 275 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: Zach Orr was just getting piled on locally for the 276 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 6: way that the nationally even too with the way that 277 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 6: so he had to come in and lost almost all 278 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: of the relevant assistant coaches on that staff because they 279 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 6: all got hired out at the same time. 280 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald got hired out. 281 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 6: He has to come in and not only coach up 282 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: and prepare and like onboard new assistants to him, but 283 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 6: also learned this job for the first time, a very 284 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 6: young still in his thirties defensive coordinator, former player, and 285 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 6: then goes and makes these adjustments. And there was like 286 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 6: some chatter externally about like Dan P's and his involvement, 287 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 6: and what I know to be true based on asking 288 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 6: some questions into that situation is no, zach Orr took 289 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 6: a very egolest and technical approach to like, hey, this 290 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 6: isn't working, so we have to change this. And zach 291 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: Orr led the way on those things and kept the 292 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 6: team together and kept the defense together. And I think 293 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 6: him and Jesse Minter and Kris Shula in Los Angeles, 294 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 6: those three, even though statistically the Rams still finished on 295 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 6: shaky ground in terms of especially their run defense, one 296 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 6: of the worst in the league, but you could see 297 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 6: all of these young new defensive coordinators and Mike McDonald's 298 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 6: unit in Seattle develop over time and get better and 299 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 6: better and start to build that momentum forward and they 300 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: hope clearly to carry that through into twenty twenty. 301 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: Five as well. 302 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like or kind of follow the same path as 303 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: as Mike McDonald there and Baltimore who struggled early in 304 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: the succeeded late. And so I was thinking, Okay, this trend, 305 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: spinning it forward a little bit, thinking about the new 306 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: dcs this year. 307 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: Cincinnati, a lot of them. 308 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Al Golden is a good pick to potentially turn 309 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: things around, and a guy who hasn't been in the NFL, 310 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, as a coordinator. 311 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: He's coming from Notre Dame most recently. 312 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: But a lot of the names who are being asked 313 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: to turn things around are guys who have done it before. 314 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes is the Jets defensive coordinator. I feel like 315 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten any pop, but has a lot of 316 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: good players to work with. Matt Eberflus is now the 317 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys defensive coordinator. I've talked about Dennis Allen on this 318 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: show a little bit. You've got the Mike Rabel slash 319 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Terrell Williams combo in with the Patriots. So we'll see, 320 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: like out of that group, which new defensive coordinat Brandon 321 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Staley's back back in Our Lives, It's a lot of 322 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: guys who. 323 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 6: Are the interesting last year, second time around, the year 324 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 6: of the new. This year will be the year of 325 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 6: the retread, but in a positive way, I think, because 326 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 6: I think. 327 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: All Sala is another one yet. 328 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think all. 329 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 6: Those people you named, I think they were really good 330 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 6: defensive coordinators when they were defensive coordinators specifically. So oh, 331 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: I think this is going to be exciting and the 332 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: league needs it. You know, the league is seeing this 333 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 6: defensive renaissance where defenses are right on pace with what 334 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 6: offenses are trying to do. It's not this ripple effect 335 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 6: of it takes you a couple of years to now 336 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 6: adjust to. The schematic shifts in the league right now 337 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 6: are neck and neck right now, and I just think 338 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: it's interesting because offensive coaches will then have to find 339 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 6: another edge. 340 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: I am going to go with something I learned for 341 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: our season finale, and that's that Sam Darnold has mein character, 342 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: energy and I. 343 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: Just didn't expect it. Now. 344 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: How that plays out moving forward, I don't know. But he, 345 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I feel like, was the player most talked about on 346 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: this show, mam man. 347 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Other than Aaron Rodgers. 348 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: He proved you so right and made me apologize and 349 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: proved me so wrong until he didn't, and then he 350 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: was like the worst of all Sam Donald's when it 351 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: mattered the most, and now it's spinning it forward like 352 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: you couldn't write it up any better than he's literally 353 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: displacing my guy Gino Smith in sort of this one 354 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: on one battle of like, all right, who's who's really 355 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: going to be better here? Obviously it's like a different 356 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: situation now, but I like it. Yeah, it's in a 357 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: different system, but it's it's much in my head, and 358 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: it is a big change for a guy who, yes, 359 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: he was talked about a lot for his standing in 360 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, but statistically, you know, over the first six 361 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: years of his careers, he either wasn't playing or was 362 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: one of the worst players at his position in the league. 363 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: And I just did not necessarily expect that he would 364 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: have a part of his career where he truly was 365 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: one of the main characters of the NFL last season, 366 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: and I think is going to be this season, and 367 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: certainly was in the offseason. So like, if nothing else, 368 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: he's conquered See you next Tuesday. 369 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: Just so many surprises await us happening in the future 370 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: and next season. 371 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: No one expected that to happen. I love it. 372 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: No, almost no one. No press is bat effected, right, 373 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: but Colleen predicted it. 374 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, can you really I haven't and Sam Darnol 375 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: I have the text. No, I know, but when he 376 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: played like two of the worst games by any quarterback 377 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: in the biggest of spots, can you really like stand 378 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: up and be like that was amazing? 379 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: I do? 380 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: I look at the full body of work. 381 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Greg he actually yeah, he copped to it. Mike Silver 382 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: wrote a good piece in The Athletic where he talked about, like, hey, look, 383 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: I know what the defenses did to me in the 384 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. 385 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: We were problematic, and I am going to try to 386 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: fix them. 387 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, And that kind of leads me to what I 388 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 6: learned in my first year of See You Next Tuesday Shows, 389 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 6: which is I cannot wait for season two of Quarterback Island. 390 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: You guys, Oh my god. 391 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 6: It's not only did I learn so much about both 392 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 6: of you psychologically as well as our puddy Steve Wish, 393 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 6: but it was like such a fun year to have 394 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 6: this type of dialogue where you're not necessarily ranking quarterbacks 395 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 6: one after another after another, but talking about like the 396 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 6: halves versus the have nots, and like between the strong 397 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 6: rookie seasons from several of the year's draftees, Jaden Daniels 398 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 6: who made it onto the Island at the end of 399 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 6: the year, Drake May entering year two as one of 400 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 6: the more exciting quarterbacks, and like bo Nix, who got 401 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 6: a such a strong argument made for him for the 402 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 6: Island by our friend Steve Wish, did not make it 403 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: on but really could at some point early next season, 404 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 6: and then maybe Caleb Williams also finally gets his feet 405 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 6: under him. The year two quarterbacks. Oh, I want you 406 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 6: to read Colleen screen. I'm reading her screen right now. 407 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 6: It says quarterback Island. I learned that quarterback Island is 408 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: confusing and can only exist in the Bermuda triangle. It's true, 409 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: it is true, and we had certain people try to 410 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 6: cheat last year as well. 411 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 5: We won't get into that. 412 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 6: But I love the dynamics that we're getting into, Like 413 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 6: I think we're in like this golden era of quarterbacking. Really, 414 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 6: I think that we're seeing so many ways to do this, 415 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 6: so many ways to do this job at such an 416 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 6: elite level, at such an ex despite the fact that 417 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 6: passing is down across the league right now, It's so 418 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 6: much fun because you have this like dichotomy of these 419 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 6: second year players that are coming in that are very very, 420 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: very exciting. 421 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 5: Mike Panics. I've talked a lot about him as well. 422 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 6: And then you have like the old guard, the guy, 423 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: a guy like Aaron Rodgers who we have talked about 424 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: almost every week on this show, who is trying to 425 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 6: go out on a positive note. You also have like 426 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: old badasses like Matthew Stafford, like Gino Smith, who one 427 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: of whom G know is is on a new team 428 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 6: and trying to really leave his mark there. And Matthew 429 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 6: Stafford who's trying to go out, you know, on a 430 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame note. And I just think this is 431 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 6: going to be such a fascinating year of quarterback play 432 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 6: cam Ward coming in, It's just going to be really, 433 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 6: really fun. And I learned that as chaotic as the 434 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 6: show can be, and as some people betray me to 435 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 6: my core w with their with their cheating, you. 436 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: Know, it's I don't remember any any. 437 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: Two words, ripcord, ripcord. 438 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: And the rules are all very complicated, like no one, 439 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: no one even remember the rules in the moment we 440 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: will have to clarify. 441 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: Yet, So if you missed QUB Island. 442 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: It is the exercise where, yeah, we keep the very 443 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league on the island, who defines 444 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: the position? Started out at twelve. We reduced the number 445 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: at some point. I don't remember how much too, And 446 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: that was one of my takeaways too, I guess how 447 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: could it not be QB Island? Was that a quarterback 448 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: can be unworthy of QB Island and you can win 449 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: a championship, huh, which is really and I don't think 450 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: I actually don't think that those things that they are 451 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: necessarily at odds. It's just been a while so we 452 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable with that. But I don't think over the 453 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: course of the regular season, which is the last time 454 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: we had done Quarterback Island, that Jalen Hurts deserve to 455 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: be on there. And if we go through historically, it 456 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: used to happen more often. So I went through this century. 457 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: You did OK. 458 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: In a fictional world where we were doing Quarterback Island 459 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: back then, I found seven or eight guys who won 460 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that wouldn't have been on Quarterback Island 461 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: their season. 462 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: Nick Foles, of course wouldn't. 463 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you're not playing great when you win the 464 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl because Jalen Hurts played his best and. 465 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 3: The very place he's on a dinghy next to the eye. 466 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: He played his best. 467 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: If he had played like that all season, like he 468 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: was there, Peyton Manning in twenty fifteen wouldn't have been 469 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: anywhere close. 470 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco again absolutely. 471 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Incredible in the playoffs, but he would not have been 472 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: on quarterback Eli Manning had a really bad O seven 473 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: before that run that he had. 474 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: He was kind of incredible in eleven. 475 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: I'll give him that, and then what Brad Johnson in 476 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: two whatever, the Ravens were thrown out there, Trent Dilfer 477 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: by the end in two thousand. So it happens, And 478 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: that's my way of defending Jalen Hurts not being on. 479 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 6: It's almost like quarterback island, as opposed to the typical 480 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 6: rankings so often released, is a much more nuanced and 481 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: valuable vessel by which to discuss the absolute range of 482 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 6: not only quarterbacks but the teams around them in a 483 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 6: way that does not limit them into one thing or another, 484 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 6: or a box with a number next to it, but 485 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 6: instead an island island. 486 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that said, if he had been playing where he 487 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: would have like earned Oh, for sure, a box at 488 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: like six by most metric, like he would have been 489 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: on the island three years before when they made the 490 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 491 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel bad about that. 492 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 6: I mean, well, he's a shoe. He's a shoe in 493 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 6: for our first vote. Honestly for this next season. 494 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: That's true. 495 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: He will be on it, all right, everyone on the island. 496 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes one's going to be off. 497 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes he's a quarterback, can be, you know, a facilitator, 498 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: a product of the people around him, like lean on 499 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: them and the running game. 500 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 3: Are you saying he's a system quarterback. 501 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean I'm saying they built well around him. Let's 502 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll go do some more lessons 503 00:22:52,760 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: from this season after this back on NFL Daily. It's 504 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: clear nobody knows the rules. It's a quarterback. I was 505 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: told it's not the rip chord. It's the ripped tide. 506 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 6: Yes, but you called it the rip chord when you 507 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 6: pulled the most diabolical of all moves to get Gino 508 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 6: on the isisland. 509 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: We'll get everyone on the same page for season two. 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: I think a little bit of mystery is good, a 511 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: little bit of misunderstanding. 512 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good. Podcast. 513 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: It seems like chaos a bit. 514 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: I love chaos. Let's let's talk what else we learned. 515 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: Okay, I learned that I was wrong about the Colts again. 516 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: I'll just throw out a couple quick ones. That Liam 517 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: Cohen can sing. We like that, that there's no tapping 518 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: out in football. Annie Richardson can't do that. That the 519 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: Eagles don't have a passing game problem. That's that was solved. 520 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Jordan, we're like fourteenth in DVOA in the regular Dan. 521 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: I learned that you're a gamer. 522 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: Right. 523 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: Didn't you talk about some video game one episode? 524 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 6: No? 525 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: What wasn't it? 526 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 6: Like? 527 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: All right, it's like softwriting here. It was Settlers of Catan, 528 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: a board game. 529 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: She's a gamer, everybody. 530 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, old school, you know. 531 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: I had no idea it was a game. Okay, scratch 532 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: that one. 533 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: Weirdly, that actually makes you seem way cooler that you 534 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: didn't know what. 535 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're still learning. 536 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 537 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 6: I learned something about you, was your Colleen. I learned that, 538 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 6: by any means necessary, if I have the opportunity to 539 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 6: tee you up to roast the New York Giants, I 540 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: have to take set opportunities. So Colleen, well, I have 541 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: you yeah, do you have any comments about the New 542 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 6: York Giants. 543 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: Well, I actually learned that the Giants fans need a 544 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: lot of self care, and whether that's like going to Belmar, 545 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 4: the Beach or Asbury Park. Just there's been a lot 546 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: of l's that Giants fans have taken and and I'm 547 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: worried about you guys, honestly, like I want the best 548 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: for you. Uh you know, Saquon Barkley, the Eagles winning 549 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, Daniel Jones getting cut despite that large 550 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: like guaranteed contract, just so many things. 551 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 8: So maybe take a book. No, oh, you could take 552 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 8: a book out of the Eagles library and maybe read 553 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 8: a little in her excellence. 554 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: See where that takes. 555 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 2: You, not not the Giants fan strength. 556 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: No read Oh okay, I didn't say that too far, all. 557 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: Right, called dare you? 558 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: I mean these are people. 559 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: Also, I learned that Jordan tries to suppress her dark side, 560 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: but it's way more fun when. 561 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: She embraces it. I love it. 562 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 8: And she's got a lot of problems with your tumbler 563 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 8: over there, that thermous. 564 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: Can you too? 565 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 3: I hate it? 566 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 6: So it's just okay, So Greg, we've been on a journey. 567 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 6: He has a he has a new, a new tumbler today. Yes, 568 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 6: we've been on a journey because they're off screen, off camera, 569 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 6: behind the screen that we're looking at right now, there 570 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 6: is a large stanley. 571 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: Should I go get it? 572 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a large Stanley. It's a great They're. 573 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: Amazing, fascinating stuff. 574 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 6: It's yeah, well you're just you're just mad because you 575 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 6: you've been noticed doing all of these things, right, So 576 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: it is, it's massive, it's a great, it's a great stanley. 577 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 6: Now I will say it has not been washed. 578 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: It also had a leg. 579 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 6: It had a lid with a straw, but Greg removed 580 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 6: the lid with the straw because he felt that sipping 581 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 6: out of a straw was infantilizing. So uh, then now 582 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: it's been this open container just sitting here that he 583 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: leaves in the studio and it drives me absolutely insane. 584 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 5: It is. It drives me nuts. 585 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: So it's four next, it's it's empty. 586 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 5: It's just this thing that sits here with no cover. 587 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 6: It's open and it just sits here in the studio 588 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 6: and it's just like it's not I mean, if you 589 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 6: look at it. 590 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: Right, But why would that be interesting to the listener? 591 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: Because Colleen brought it up something she learned about you? 592 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you something actually? Something I learned about both 593 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: of you today. 594 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean you're taking shots at at what was a 595 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: gift from my wife that that though it. 596 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 6: Is a great gift me is awesome. Your treatment of 597 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 6: the Stanley is what I. 598 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: What am I going to do with it? Leave it 599 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: in a glass case or something. What are you supposed 600 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: to do? 601 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 5: It's you're supposed to take care of it. 602 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I wash it. They have they have the little where. 603 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: Is the lid slid clean? 604 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: To you get rid of that's you know, that's questionable. 605 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: It will not be used anymore though, because Jordan has 606 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: has replaced it, which is controversial, Like this is a beautiful. 607 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 6: It doesn't have Okay, I looked for I looked for 608 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 6: one without a sippy straw, Greg, because you went on 609 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 6: a whole rant about how infantalizing the sippy straw. 610 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 5: It's so good. 611 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: I can't we see you? It does. There is something 612 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: about yes, sucking out of a big wow. What seems 613 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: like it's like what babies did. 614 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: Right in infant? Yeah, yeah, that's the root word. 615 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 8: Anyway, real run game has been revitalized. The revitalization of 616 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 8: run games in top offenses across the league, and how 617 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 8: offenses all over not only are running the ball more, 618 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 8: but they're doing it more successfully, and they're using it 619 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 8: as an emphasis to develop more chunk plays. And we 620 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 8: just haven't seen it at the rate that they did 621 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 8: it last year in a while. 622 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love this. I had something on this too 623 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 6: about what we learned. We learned something about where scheme 624 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: is going every year, and that's what's so fun about 625 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 6: the NFL is it changes faster than ever. And this 626 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 6: year and last year as well, it certainly did. I 627 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 6: think we learned right now exactly where we are in 628 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 6: terms of the constant cyclical nature of the league. It's 629 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 6: almost like if you were just going to draw a 630 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: giant circular timeline and have these little flash points on 631 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 6: around it like a clock. Where we're at right now 632 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 6: is passing is down. The revitalization of the run game, 633 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 6: like you said, Colleen, and the shift toward larger personnel, 634 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 6: particularly on the interior of the offensive lines, and a 635 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 6: more diverse running scheme than ever. And so what I 636 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 6: think NFL teams, which are led largely by offensive minded 637 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 6: coaches and helmed by better quarterback play than we've seen 638 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 6: in decades, if ever in the NFL. I think that 639 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 6: they're not going to be able to take this. They're 640 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 6: not going to be able to bear it. That passing 641 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 6: is down, and I think that you're going to want 642 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 6: to see them want to keep the physicality that they've 643 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 6: established with the run game, which will lead to another 644 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 6: point in the cycle that we have seen return over 645 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: and over, which is the resurgence of multiple tight ends. 646 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 6: You saw how teams drafted this year bringing in one 647 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 6: or two or adding a dynamic pass catching tight end 648 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 6: to their roster, especially as early as some of these 649 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 6: tight ends and like Joker tight ends went in the draft. 650 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 6: This I think you're going to start to see that 651 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 6: so you can keep the physicality of the run game. 652 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 6: Heavier personnel sets. Again, this all has happened before, but 653 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 6: we're at this point now where you're going to see 654 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 6: more tight ends, more tight end. You should more twelve personnel, 655 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 6: but hybrid like eleven and a half where you could 656 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: see those one of those players be a receiver, a 657 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 6: power slot. I think you're still going to see the 658 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: power slot. And then of course defenses react. We started 659 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 6: seeing you three safeties being used all over the league. 660 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 5: Last year you mentioned Derwin James. 661 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: Earlier, Colleen started seeing, especially these ascending young coordinators using 662 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: their safeties in particular close to the line of scrimmage 663 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: in the box while not sacrificing, you know, the extra 664 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 6: players defending the pass. Is it happens every seven or 665 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 6: eight years or so. But I do think that what 666 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 6: is so crystal clear because of the amount of information 667 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: we have, the amount of film we have access to, 668 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 6: and the way that things can move faster than ever, 669 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 6: we're able to see like exactly the moment, exactly the 670 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 6: flashpoint that we are at in the league right now. 671 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating. That's really well said. 672 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: And the thing is, like passing is still extremely efficient 673 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: compared to almost all historical comparisons. So it's a little 674 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: overstated because running has made attempts are down right, running 675 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: has made attempts that running has made some games in 676 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: terms of its efficiency, but compared to the history of 677 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: the league, like, passing is still extremely efficient. 678 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: It's just like a slower sport. 679 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: So points are down like a little bit, but we're 680 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: nowhere near where we were, like let's say at two 681 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: thousand or even at like two thousand and eight or 682 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: it's nothing like that. So I am curious to see if, 683 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: like it does keep cranking up, and whether there are 684 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: there are ways for the defenses to stop and whether 685 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: and I think running dominates more. 686 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 6: I think that quarterbacks are too good right now to 687 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 6: have this not break wide open at some point, Like 688 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 6: teams want their quarterbacks to run their offense, they want 689 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 6: to pass the ball. Coaches offensive mining coaches cannot stand 690 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 6: to not pass explosively like they have to do it. 691 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 6: But I do think it's interesting because you're going to 692 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 6: see a lot of that, Like when I say we're 693 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 6: going back to like the multiple tight ends, that's we 694 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 6: certainly can see that trending that way with a lot 695 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 6: of these different teams. But I don't think they're going 696 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 6: to use you know, heavy personnel to run the ball 697 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 6: or get short yardage gains just you know, up the 698 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 6: middle of the field. I think you're going to see 699 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 6: a combination of all of these eleven personnel concepts that 700 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 6: have taken the league by storm over the last almost 701 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 6: a decade, and you're going to also see them start 702 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 6: to be run through these hybrid players. A lot of 703 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 6: them will be tight ends or larger receivers. You're seeing 704 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 6: all these trends, the way that Vegas drafted, the way 705 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 6: that the Bills drafted, the way that uh yeah, the 706 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 6: way that Chicago drafted, the way that the Packers have 707 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 6: been playing, a little bit, the way that the Rams 708 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 6: have been playing. The forty nine ers were doing this 709 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 6: with much heavier personnel years ago, Like you're going to 710 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 6: start to see that. And then, of course defenses now 711 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 6: are trying to stay ahead of that curve and draft 712 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 6: these about fullback, big safeties. 713 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: Full backs. They're kind of coming back. 714 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: It's like they kind of always are. 715 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 5: They are always hanging on credit. 716 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: Think'st one now, but yeah, there's a couple of them 717 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: hanging around. I learned that see you next Tuesday means 718 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: something different In Australia. 719 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: We are we are aware of that, and what you 720 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: don't want to know. We didn't know. 721 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: That and sweep me and tell me what it means. 722 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Right, We're not gonna just change what we do, but 723 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: now we're aware and and maybe maybe we will change 724 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: it in the future. 725 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not up to us. We're just dumb. 726 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: Americal under pressure. 727 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: I thought it was just America our group chat. 728 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, because that's what we say when we leave Tuesday 729 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 8: the studios. 730 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: What does it mean it's with an s C. 731 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Colleen, I learned that Greg doesn't need to sleep 732 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: after international trips, which sets a terrible precedent for everyone 733 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: else at the company. 734 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that. 735 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god, who needs it? 736 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 5: What a week that was? 737 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, was wild Greg? 738 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: That you That sets up something else that that I 739 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: learned too, which is like I can I can lean 740 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: on you guys on these shows. 741 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: So I thank you very much for that. 742 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: You're welcome, because even on a normal Tuesday, it was 743 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: very much. You know, you have the Sunday show, you 744 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: got the doubleheader. Sometimes I'm doing the Monday night football 745 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: thing in London and then another and then this show 746 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: is like very fast the next morning, and so I 747 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: just I just show up and I just like you 748 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: guys carry the way, so you know, it's very It's 749 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: like Jay, I'm like in that case, it's like a 750 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: bad Jalen Hurts game and you guys are the offensive 751 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: line Barkley, AJ Brown, you guys are just carrying me. 752 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 6: On that note, though, I will say one thing I've 753 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 6: learned from the both of you is like the discipline 754 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 6: and infrastructure of preparation, of. 755 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 5: Work of being. 756 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 6: So I mean, you guys should see you've seen him, Greg, 757 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 6: but the listeners you need to see Colleen's notes at 758 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 6: some point because there are pages. I mean, the preparation 759 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 6: I too well. I love being around people who work 760 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 6: so hard, Like I love that, and I know this 761 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 6: is I'm being overly earnest whatever, but like I have 762 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 6: learned that from you. I've learned courage from you, and 763 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 6: I've learned discipline and like how to push uh and 764 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 6: innovate from you. And I just that's something that's been 765 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 6: so cool for me this year. It's just getting to 766 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 6: be around you guys every week. 767 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: Oh Jordan, it's so sweet. 768 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: You're You're too nice. And now I think you've reached 769 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: the part of the show. Greg. 770 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: Feel really I always learned new words from Jordan, and 771 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm always like, oh, I want that one, and I 772 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: gotta I gotta work that one into the lexicon. 773 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 8: That's a cool word, Like what's that one? So yeah, 774 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 8: it's been a real learning experience. 775 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: It has been amazing. 776 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: And and this this little tumbler that I put water 777 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: in what do you call it. 778 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's about symbolic and it came with 779 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: a car card. 780 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 3: Centializing cards. 781 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: Cards were a big part of the year because we 782 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: learned from our listeners. 783 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 5: That that was one of my favorite Everyone. 784 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: Deserves at Christmas start Oh my God episode Everyone Deserves 785 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: a Christmas Card. So if you want to start sending 786 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: your holiday cards to Colleen Wolf care of NFL Network, 787 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: uh in early, you know, you can start sending them now. 788 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: But that was very nice. Yeah, and Jordan's Jordan gave 789 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: a card here, uh with the tumblr. 790 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 6: With the tumblr also, just to be clear to the listener, 791 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 6: I know we joked about the the tumblr, the grossness 792 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 6: of the old one, the way that it was treated. 793 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 6: It's a great gift, but the mistreatment of it bothered me. 794 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 6: So we have one without a straw and with a lid. 795 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 6: And it was a part of a thank you gift 796 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 6: to Greg okay. 797 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: And you you guys suggested to read this. 798 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't actually, I want to be clear, I 799 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 6: don't remember quite remember what I wrote in it. 800 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: So so you said, at the risk of being earnest, 801 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: but no, this this uh, this Tuesday has been a 802 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: beautiful oasis of great vibes and picks me up and 803 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: has been really fun, and we're gonna do it again, 804 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: and there's there is no we're going to run. There 805 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: is no cliffhanger here. Jordan, you're going to be back, 806 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: and Colleen you're not going anywhere, so we'll get to 807 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: do this again. 808 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: There is no dramatic Cliffin. 809 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 5: Tuesday season two. 810 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 6: You go. 811 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: Are you sure you want me to read? I don't know. 812 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: Let me read it first to make sure with all. 813 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: It's I'm sure it's great. 814 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could read this, Okay, yeah, yeah, Thank 815 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: you for making me. 816 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it's really more about me. I thought it was 817 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: going to be. 818 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 5: It's a thank you card. 819 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for. 820 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Making me smarter, a harder worker, better thinker, a person 821 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: who thinks about a collaborative partnership, a better friend, less fearful, 822 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: and for changing my life twice this year. Oh, your 823 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: only flaws in my mind are your baker disdain and 824 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: your water bottle situation. Luckily I can fix one of 825 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: these issues. 826 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: Cheers to the future. 827 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: Jordan, Oh what a season one this was? What are 828 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: you crying? 829 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 2: I'm not crying. He's not even close to cry. 830 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 5: I'm thinking about. 831 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: How he doesn't have a harp. 832 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 6: I'm he's thinking about how hard I'm going to come 833 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 6: after him on the baker Stuff Next Island. 834 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: It definitely made me feel a little emotional. 835 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: I felt something. 836 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: I feel things all the time. 837 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 4: I can't what would one do if you were to cry? 838 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: It's always happening, Like I just need to be like 839 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: watching something. Have you guys watched the Pit yet? I 840 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching the Pit. I am at a 841 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: permanent state of like there are just kind of tears 842 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: sitting there and then every fifteen minutes or so, because 843 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: it's like life and death all the time. 844 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 6: Greg tell you one of the things he learned about 845 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 6: me this year is that I schedule my cries. What 846 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 6: like get a I do a real good reset cry, 847 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 6: like I'll read something a book that's like really really sad, 848 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 6: or watch like I do a reset. It's like I 849 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 6: schedule it's on the calendar. 850 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: Girl, I don't need to schedule my cries. They just 851 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 3: go naturally. 852 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 6: Get Another topic we addressed at our company c J Consulting. 853 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, look forward to season two, can't Wait. Colleen cries 854 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: emotionally stable, and. 855 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: It's not just because of what's going to happen to 856 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles next season. 857 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 2: We will be back. 858 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: This is not our last episode before we go to 859 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: that series that I'm excited about. By the way, we 860 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: have some exciting guests for the series. Kevin Harlan's going 861 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: to be on Mean Chimes is going to be on 862 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger, so that's going to be running starting next week. 863 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 2: But we do have one more show to. 864 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: Go this week or this will be the last one, Okanks, Guys, 865 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't know when we'll be back together. We're back 866 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: daily July twenty first, but the three of us when 867 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: we'll be back together, who. 868 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: Knows, maybe before Tuesday. I hope you will pull the 869 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: last one on everyone. 870 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: We could do it somewhere else. Thank you Jordan for 871 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: the card for the bottle. 872 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 2: Football's not back.