WEBVTT - "takin ' a walk" introduces you to "The Celebrity Jobber Podcast" 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:01.280 Taking a Walk. 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.800 I'm Buzznight the host of the Taking a Walk podcast, 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.680 and once in a while we love to share some 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:10.080 other podcasts that we think that you'd like to check out. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.200 Jeff Zito is a dear friend of mine. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.640 He has one of the most successful Apple podcasts called 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:21.400 Celebrity Jobber. Check out this new episode with an actor 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.320 comedian who has been in some of the quintessential movies 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.920 of our time, Anthony Michael Hall. He was known as 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:36.040 a member of Hollywood's brat Pack Remember Sixteen Candles, Weird Science, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.160 The Breakfast Club also spend some time as a cast 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:45.720 member on Saturday Night Live. Here's Jeff Zito's Celebrity Jobber 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.960 with Anthony Michael Hall. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.320 Hey, it's Jeff Zito and thanks for listening to another 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:58.720 episode of the Celebrity Jobber podcast. Dreaming on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:04.240 iHeart wherever you listen to podcasts, Please subscribe with love 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.880 a five star rating and leave a review. You could 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.400 check out past episodes online Celebrity Jobber dot com. Also 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:16.240 you can follow on Instagram Celebrity Underscore Jobb or Underscore 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:21.160 podcast or YouTube dot com slash the ad sign Celebrity 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:26.399 Jobber Who were these celebrities before they were famous? What 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.600 was their life like? What did they do? What about 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.399 a first job? Some of these celebrities worked in the 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:39.119 world of advertising and marketing or had their own upholstery business, 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.600 and then one day their big break came along and 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.759 that was it. You know Anthony Michael Hall from movies 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:52.680 like National Lampoons, Vacation, Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club. But 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.840 who was he before all that? What was his first job? 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.200 What was his big break? We're gonna find out. Well, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.760 Anthony Michael Hall is my guest this week on Celebrity 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.160 jobb Or. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.000 It's the Celebrity job Or podcast with Jeff Zito. If 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.400 you like what you hear, please subscribe, give a five 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.760 star rating and leave a review. Check out all our 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.560 past episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you pupped. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.520 What if these celebrities weren't famous, what would they have become? 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.320 What was their first job? We're about to find out. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.880 Now here's a good here's a great way to break 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.400 the ice. What if people call you? Do they call 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.360 you am h, Do they call you Anthony? 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:34.800 They called you? What do your friends call you? 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.000 But give it? First name? Is Mike or Michael. But yeah, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.120 I hear you all three. I get amahs, Michael or Anthony. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:40.799 It's all good. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.519 All yeah, nice to meet you too, man. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.280 I mean, obviously I'm a you know, a huge fan, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.880 and I've known about you my whole life. I'm having 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.920 a midlife crisis because I just turned fifty. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.480 And you know, I don't know. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.679 I don't know if you've ever had that midlife crisis 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.880 at any point, But do you have any do you 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.920 have any suggestions any way to get. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.040 Through that kind of I wouldn't treat it as a crisis, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:04.560 first of all. Well also, I just got a joke too. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.239 I'm in show business, so I think every year is 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.799 a new crisis because you never know where the work's. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.600 Coming, right, right. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.000 I'm a little bit older than you at fifty seven, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.320 but I wouldn't. Yeah, I would just you know, look 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:18.880 at it as a speed bump, not a dead end, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.040 you know what I mean. You got to keep rocking 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.240 and rolling. You're still a young man. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.359 Yeah, I know people do say that, but I just don't. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:24.919 I don't know. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.200 I don't see it yet. But we'll get through it. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.520 So let me let me ask you this. Michael, can 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.079 I call you Michael sure man, So let me let 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.120 me ask you. I do a podcast that's like about 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.000 celebrities before they were famous and like what their life 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.480 was before they were famous. This is going to be 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.800 a really interesting question for you because I feel like 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.720 you've been famous your whole life, right, I mean, what 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:50.840 when did you started like acting? 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.360 When you were what eight years old? 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.720 Yeah? I did. I did. It's so funny because when 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.680 I was in New York, I was celebrating the SNL 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.080 fiftieth and I was taking part in those festivities and 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.760 it took My wife was great, but I was on 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.800 the red carpet doing some interviews and it really started 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.600 to hit me right there. Actually when I was in 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.400 the interviews, and you know, I started nineteen seventy six. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.600 I got my first job. I was hired by Steve Allen, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.640 the late great Steve Allen. So yeah, I mean my 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.560 career goes back to that, and that's the beginning of 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.919 it for me. So that was a real blessing, you know, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.719 starting that young. I think a lot of it attribute 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.360 to my mother. I had a very strong, willed mother 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.320 who was a single parent at the time. She wound 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.440 up remarrying when I was about twelve, and I had 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.200 my sister and my stepfather who raised us. But my 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.480 mother was also an artist. She was a singer and 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.720 you know, raised me, you know, singing for my supper 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.280 literally because she was a jazz and blues singer. So, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.640 you know, coming from a creative family when you asked 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.440 me that question. In my life before that was just 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.120 growing up in New York City, you know, but I 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.560 was really exposed because of my mother's life and career 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.840 to a lot as a result of that. So, I mean, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.880 I studied the arts. You know. I did everything from 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.479 taking karate to studying drawing at the Art Students League, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.360 to taking you know, music lessons and playing drums. I mean, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.200 all kinds of things that I did as a kid 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.440 that were really helpful and helped me build a foundation 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:04.520 for a life of the arts. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.640 You're very first paying gig was being a young Steve 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.159 Allen in a movie that was like, yeah, because a 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.960 lot of people's first jobs are you know, the newspaper 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.600 delivery boy or a babysitter. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.279 Yours was in the business as an actor. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.799 Yeah, yeah, exactly, I mean, and that was very fortunate 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.080 for that reason. You know, so absolutely. You know, I 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.240 was doing the play with Summer Stock with Steve Allen. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.640 I was such a little kid, you know, and then 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.440 from there I did commercials and it led to you know, 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.000 the film and TV work that I got as a 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.800 young teenager. But at that point had already been in 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.400 the business for seven or eight years. So yeah, I've 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.719 been a long career. So I thank God for that. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.359 So when you cut to Roswelt Delirium, you know, it 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.440 was an amazing experience because some you know, here I 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.800 am forty something years later and I'm a producer on 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.520 the project. But it was great to see these kids. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.720 They came to work so prepared, they were so refreshing 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.200 that they were so committed to do a good job 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.560 and they were really prepared. But also just to see 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.359 their joy at work, to see them having fun with 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.240 what they were doing, and to see the light in 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.160 their eyes, you know, at the beginning of their careers. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.599 So I could certainly to that and it was wonderful 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.440 to see, you know, to see them do a great job. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.279 So when you're when you're talking about what you're doing 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.720 right now, which is Roswell Delirium, and do you have 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.400 other jobs within not just being an actor, but is 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.919 there other things that you do in this film, Like 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.880 did you mention directing it? 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.000 No? No. I produced the film, and I produced it 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.640 with the filmmaker who's a writer director named Rick Bakewell. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.760 So it's both of our companies that came together in 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.200 my company's Manhattan Films and Rix's Light Force Pictures. So 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.760 we joined forces and we made this project and we 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.400 shot in La a couple of years ago, and we 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:36.960 just got this great cast. So we have a lot 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.279 of really wonderful performances from some really great known actress 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.400 to like d Wallace Stone and Sam Jones, Lisa welschol 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.040 Original Bell Johnson. So a lot of really great people 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.240 came in and supporting roles to flesh out our cast. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.080 But primarily it's a bunch of young child actors that 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.480 did a beautiful job, you know, and if anything, they 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.240 were reminding us all on set, you know, to kind 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.640 of be prepared and to have fun work. That was 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.880 great to see that from their perspective as they went 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:03.880 to work and did the film. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.719 Celebrity Jobber the Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Ziito and. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.800 Over time, do you just pick up. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.000 Like you're in the biz, You're in all these films, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.800 you're in these commercials, but like overtime in your career 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.680 has progressed to where it is now you're doing Roswell Delirium, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.320 which by the way, is on Amazon Prime right now. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.600 Do you figure out these these other skills of being 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.600 a producer, Like I don't know what all you know, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.560 you see the you know at the very end of 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.720 a film, it's like key grip, best boy. I have 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.760 no idea what all these little things are. But like 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.160 do you pick up? Do you pick it up over time? 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:41.920 But there's just things that you learn on the job. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.200 So yeah, absolutely, I mean that's one of the things 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.400 you do learn is when you're working actor. You come 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.080 on set and you see everybody doing all these different jobs, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.720 and so to have that sort of healthy respect for 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.360 all those technical abilities in those technicians is really important, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.080 you know. So there's a lot so producing is something. Yeah, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.600 I mean I've worked with a number of producers over decades, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.200 so you know, I had a lot of training on 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.200 the job, which is the most beneficial I feel, you know, 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.440 and that served me well in this situation too, where 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.679 I was going to work and producing my company's second film. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.160 You know, so what your experience, what. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.040 Is your favorite outside of acting and being in front 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.960 of the camera. Is there another part of the business 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.280 that you really enjoy? 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.840 Well, oh, okay, you're going to say business. Yeah, I 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.480 was going to say my family, because I've become a 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.679 family man here later in life. So I'm happily married. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.440 I have a beautiful wife, and we have a son. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:31.840 I have a two year old. Believe me or not, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.360 at this age right on loving that aspect of it, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.640 I do. Yeah, our son is almost will be two 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.920 next month. So to see my life from you know, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.480 from a new perspective and through my son's eyes is 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.600 so beautiful, as all parents will, I'm sure it can 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.520 attest to you know, you just get fresh eyes and 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.679 it gives you a fresh perspective on life and not 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.280 what to appreciate it what matters, you know. But in 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.200 terms of what I like to do, yeah, I mean, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.240 you know, producing is great, and I also want to 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.120 get behind the camera start directing. So I have a 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.040 bunch of projects that developing in Manhattan Films, and I 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.080 have partners and we're raising funds and you know, full 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.160 steam ahead. In terms of building out the company. So 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:08.880 that's the goal, you know, so because I want to 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.880 be able to produce stuff and co produce things, and 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.679 and also direct some films and projects and hopefully give 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.199 other people opportunities down the line. So that's a you know, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.199 a good aspiration and worth working towards. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.839 Celebrity Jobber The Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Ziito. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.719 What do you think it was that really helped you? 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.559 I mean, you you've worked in the business for a 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.120 long time and being persistent, but and I could guess, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.920 but I want you to tell me. Was there a 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.839 particular role, There was a situation, a big break, if 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.840 you will, that really put you. I mean, you were 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.440 the youngest cast member on Saturday Night Live. You didn't 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.280 just get that by by accident. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:48.280 What do you think it was? 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.800 Yeah, it's a good question. I think working with John Hughes, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.840 you know, when I did Vacation, it was interesting because 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.079 John Hughes wrote the national input in Vacation, but I 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.520 did not meet him on that film. It was directed 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.760 by Harold Ramis. Who was you know, I often think 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.400 of that. I guess it's Isaac Newton and said that 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.600 we're all standing on the shoulders of giants at some point, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.240 you know, my life was it was those giants were 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.800 Steve Allen, they were Harold Ramis, John Hughes, Mattie Simmons, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.160 the founder of National improm people that saw something in 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.120 me as a kid that gave me an opportunity to 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.439 be myself, you know, and as a kid, I was 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.160 kind of a funny kid, and they saw something in me, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.079 which I'm so grateful for and that's spawned a career. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.800 So the idea of returning that favor or paying it 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.640 back and helping others is primary to me. It's important, 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.720 so not only my own creative aspirations, but the idea 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:37.720 of building a company to help others is really important 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:37.880 to me. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.680 And you just mentioned that, you know, you're a pretty 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.360 funny kid, and I'm glad you said that because with 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.360 being the youngest cast member on Saturday Night Live at 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.160 seventeen years old, and then you know, Rusty Griswold, I 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.520 believe you are thirteen years old and you delivered the line. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:53.719 Though. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.240 The thing that's so great about you when you were 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.520 that age is you're like, You're not expecting a little 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.360 kid to be like funny like this, So where did 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:04.640 you get your sense of humor? 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.040 And was that role like you, Well, this is. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.240 Funny because this goes into my own biography. Like I'll 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:11.839 tell you the truth. When I was a kid, it's 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.880 like that old ADYE. Murphy movie in the eighties, Raw 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.840 when they had that opening sequel and you see at 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.079 the child actor playing him and he was doing shows 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.559 for the family. I mean that was me. Even though 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.480 I didn't ultimately become a comic as a kid, I 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.480 was one of those kids doing shows for the family, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.000 you know. So I would get up and imitate my 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.480 aunts and uncles and whoever the hell else it was. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.199 And it was if I was at a funeral or 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.320 if it might have been a wedding or at somebody's house. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.920 It was always a relevant's house. You know, it's not 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.160 my grandparents' house. So that is really how it started 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.880 for me, you know, kind of being a hammy little 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.679 kid that wanted to make people laugh. And I think 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.760 that that's what John hughesaw on me, and also Maddie 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.599 Simmons and Harold Ramis and those guys. I think I 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.640 had a sense of kind of fearlessness, maybe because I 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.719 loved to make people laugh and it was fun for 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.080 me and very natural, you know. And as I get 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.559 into high school back in the eighties, I started really 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.679 honing in on comics that I loved. So heroes of 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.240 mine were like George Carlin, your prior you know. Later 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.199 I learned about Lenny Bruce on records, you know. So 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.679 I've always loved comedians and comedy and comedic film, so 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.079 I think that was also a big inspiration. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.679 Do you think there was ever a point in time 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.559 where you were like, because you're so involved with the 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.240 arts and your mother was is a great singer, would 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.600 you ever consider being in music? Did that ever tickle 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.440 your fancy at any point? Yeah? 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.720 Yeah, I did, and have to produce music at different 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.199 times in my life, and I do. I love that 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.319 and people will ask me that question a lot over 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.280 the years. I think something creative absolutely, you know, whether 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:35.480 it be a musician or maybe something with camera. You know, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.480 I've grown up around cameras now and I know some 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.559 things about that, you know. I think just having a 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.440 creative life is is both challenging and scared of people, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.600 but at the same time, it's it's very liberating too. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.839 So the idea that you know, if you can do 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.679 something that you love, the old adage, you know, you 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.160 never work a day in your life, and it's and 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.400 it's true, it's it's not as simplistic as that, but 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.439 it certainly is the grounds for something. Then if you 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.640 if you pursue something with passion that you love, you 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.760 know it won't feel like work. And so I just 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.280 feel grateful and thankful to God that I've had such 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.920 a long career and it's endured over these decades. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.679 You know, was there ever a point in time where 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.520 you're like, oh man, it's because it's got to be 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.120 hard get you know, going on these calls and being 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.599 rejected and it's got to be a tough one and 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:19.480 a strange life. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.199 Were you ever like, hey, what should I be doing 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.040 something different? 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:24.599 Yeah, it's your question. You have to deal with a 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.960 lot of rejection. You have to be sort of built 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.240 for that and that the doubts that no one thinks 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.240 that they are. But you know, you learn it to 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.360 have a tough skin, and you learn to be persistent 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.040 and you learn a lot of great lessons that I 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.839 think apply whether you're in the corporate world or in 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.800 the world of sports. Or anything, you know, the idea 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.320 of being determined, making decisions, you know, creating good habit 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.360 through yourself and just persisting. And I think that that's 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.120 something no one can teach you. That's something that you 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.480 just have to enact within yourself and have that in you. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.120 And if you don't, then it may not be what's 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.480 for you, you know, in life. But those are things 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.800 that taught me. Well, So I'm grateful again. I think 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.679 thought that this is the gift in himself, is to 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.880 have the long jevity and to be still doing it. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:05.920 You know, I'm grateful to God. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.800 The Celebrity Jobber Podcast with Jeff Zido Celebrity Jobber. 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.320 I would definitely see you being being a stand up 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.320 comedian and I can see you transitioning into that world. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:19.480 Do you ever do you ever think about that? 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.160 No, I mean not really, not really. I mean, that's 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.360 a hard life, that's challenging, you know, but I do 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.240 respect and I have a lot of love for people 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.360 that do that. You know, I've been It's funny because 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.400 you know you just mentioned that stand up. But when 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.040 I was at the SNL fiftieth I Bill Burke came 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.160 up to me. We were chatting, and it's led to 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:37.720 you know, we struck a bit of a friendship. So 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.720 we've been been in talks and he has a film 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.200 he wants me to do later this year with him. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.800 So I'll probably make that film with Bill. But you know, look, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.560 that's a real that's a real lifestyle, a commitment to 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.440 You got to greatly respect comics because again, there's no 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.040 leg to stand down there. You're going up there with 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.800 your wits and your brain and again that sense of 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.120 determination to kind of put yourself out there, you know, 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.200 and it takes a lot not up. But everybody is not. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.120 Everybody's built for that. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.720 You know, talk politics with Bill Burr. I don't think 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:02.560 you guys will get along. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.120 Yeah, let's just not talk politics perience. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:11.720 Look, man, it was a pleasure, and I urge everybody 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:16.000 to go to Amazon Prime and check out the latest 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.280 which is it's called Roswell Delirium and Anthony Michael Hall 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.840 amh Michael, good talk, Russ. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.160 Good talk with me. Man. I appreciate the time, and 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.320 thank you for supporting the picture. I really appreciate it. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:31.240 MA, take care of yourself. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.560 Thanks man Born Michael, Anthony Thomas, Charles Hall. That's a 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.960 lot of names. He kind of flipped the Anthony and 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.840 the Michael around because I guess there was already a 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.280 Michael Hall in show business. He's from Boston, the only 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.080 child of a blues jazz singer. Her name was Mercedes Hall, 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.120 and she got divorced from Michael's father, Larry, who owned 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.000 an autobody shop, like when he was six months old. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.560 So when he was a very young man, they relocated 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.800 to the West Coast where his mom found work as 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.920 a singer, and I think it was a year and 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.600 a half later they eventually moved back to the East 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.200 Coast and New York City. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.240 That's where he grew up. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.440 But he was in show business from the time he 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.040 was a kid, and his mom actually managed him. He 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.360 was acting at the age of eight years old, when 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.160 a lot of kids their first job was, you know, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.600 maybe working in a restaurant or delivering newspapers or babysitting 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:28.280 something like that. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.280 His very first gig. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.400 Was as the young Steve Allen in a semi autobiographical 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.800 play called The Wake, and he also did some commercials 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.640 around that time. He was the Honeycomb serial Kid. He 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.800 was in some commercials for toys and Bounty paper towels. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:51.000 So his very first jobs were in acting, and that's 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.840 what he's done his entire career. I mean, his job 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.680 when he was seventeen years old was as a cast 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.480 member of Saturday Night Live, and to date, I believe 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:06.440 the youngest cast member ever on SNL. Of course I 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.080 knew the answer, but I needed him to tell us. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:14.040 You know, his big break Rusty Griswold in National Lampoon's Vacation. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.960 He might have noticed, if you know the film. I 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.200 got him right there at the end where I said, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.840 good talk Russ, famous line delivered by Chevy Chase in 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:23.359 the movie. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.159 Think I might have caught him off guard with that 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.240 one there. That was his big break. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.719 I didn't know that John Hughes was the film screenwriter, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.840 And of course you know, John Hughes went to direct 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:40.040 some like unbelievable movies in the eighties. Sixteen Candles another 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.200 huge one for Anthony Michael Hall The Breakfast Club. He 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.480 was a member of Hollywood's brat pack, and I guess 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.639 to avoid being type cast, Hall turned down roles for 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.399 him by John Hughes. In Ferris Mueller's Day Off, he 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.680 was offered the role of Cameron Fry and also in 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.359 Pretty in Pink, where he was offered the role of Ducky. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.760 You know, this guy was never going to be a carpenter, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.680 a real estate agent, or an accountant. This guy was artistic. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.119 It came from his mom. She was a singer. 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.840