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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her Radio. It is another episode of the almost

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Speaker 1: famous podcast. We are here with Ashley and there's somebody snoring.

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Speaker 1: Ashley in your lap. So if the listeners hear it,

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Speaker 1: who's hanging out with you today? His dozen. He's always

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Speaker 1: hanging out with me. Literally, he loves his little chest

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Speaker 1: carrier pouch thing. Shout out to already Pop for giving

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Speaker 1: me this. It's been the greatest gift we have received,

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Speaker 1: no offense to all the other gifts. This thing keeps

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Speaker 1: him content when he's going his most wild. Really, he's

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Speaker 1: having a total scream attack. Doesn't want to bottle, doesn't

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Speaker 1: want a pacifier, doesn't like his swing, his bounce or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. This has not failed us once, so

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Speaker 1: knock on wood. We've always had a solution to his crying.

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Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha. That's a big deal. It's a

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Speaker 1: really big deal. I'm sure it will fail us one

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Speaker 1: day and I will freak out. But then I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna put him in the bath because his other favorite

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Speaker 1: spot in the entire world is the bathtub. When he's

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Speaker 1: even near the bathtub, like when I lay him on

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Speaker 1: a towel before he gets in, he calms down like

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Speaker 1: he knows he's getting in. It's his favorite time of

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Speaker 1: We do it a couple of times a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: puts him to sleep really well at night. Well that

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Speaker 1: is uh, that's also Jessica's favorite place is the bath,

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Speaker 1: Like if she's stressed, start that's Jared's chairy place. That's funny, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because if like, if I want to be a good

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Speaker 1: bath and all of a sudden she's happy and she's like,

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Speaker 1: just turned on some water in the night, little bubble

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Speaker 1: seem like you know, that says you care. Yeah, still

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out Whalen's favorite thing that calms him

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Speaker 1: down he's gotten in a mood, Actually tell me this,

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Speaker 1: When he has to go to the bathroom now instead

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Speaker 1: like nips at my heels. Is that a thing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I have not experienced that, but you're lucky that he

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Speaker 1: tells you. And I'm in lucky, yeah, because he gets

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Speaker 1: bigger and his his his bathroom breaks get bigger, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's not doing in the house. How how

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Speaker 1: Every I mean, he's really such a good pup. He's

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Speaker 1: so much fun. And last night I got home. My

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Speaker 1: feel the exact same way. It's been like that for

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Speaker 1: Coming home and we had a great time Ashley playing golf.

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Speaker 1: like you're having a happy moment. That is absolutely awesome. Well, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: ton of juicy content to talk about this week. We've

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Speaker 1: break down Bachelor headlines. Starting out Bachelor headlines this week,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a Kardashian. A Kardashian that is

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Speaker 1: flirting with potentially becoming the bachelorrett We've talked about it

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Speaker 1: for a while. Let's see if it's true. The headline

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Speaker 1: reads this, Chloe Kardashian speak on dating and if she's

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Speaker 1: ready to be the Bachelorette. This according to US Weekly.

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Speaker 1: You guys might remember when Mike Flice took to Twitter

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Speaker 1: saying that, like, Chloe was in like contract negotiations to

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Speaker 1: be the Bachelorette. This is like two or three years ago.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty silly. There was no merit to it,

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Speaker 1: even Chloe and I think I think that Kim say

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Speaker 1: And then she was interrupted by Kim who said it

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Speaker 1: the Kardashian clan may want her to be the Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: but Chloe herself doesn't really think that she can pull

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Speaker 1: people that very easily could have been the Bachelor, with Blake, Jason,

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Speaker 1: and Colton. I think it was a it was kind

424
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: of a crapshoot, like, I don't know who they're going

425
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: to choose, and they ended up choosing Colton. That was

426
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: the last season where it was just like whoa, Who's

427
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: going to be the Bachelor? Of all these guys good options.

428
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Michelle kind of had that a little bit like Michelle

429
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: had a few like the Rodney's of the world, Um

430
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: kind of came in and obviously, um, they chose Clayton,

431
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: who was like, wasn't even in the top of that list,

432
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: but they did. They did have a few options there,

433
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a that was a tough one.

434
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: You didn't know who was going to be the Bachelor

435
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: from that. Yeah. I also want to say that Jared

436
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: and I went to Jason's Restart Roadmap book event in

437
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Boston on Thursday, and it was awesome. It wasn't just

438
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: like a regular book signing. It was kind of like

439
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: a small seminar to teach you and inspire you to,

440
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, create a fresh start, whether it's in your career,

441
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: in your personal life, or anything like that. And he

442
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: is perfect for events like that. You know, he's such

443
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: a great public speaker and he really is truly motivating

444
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: and He's just the sweetest. It would be crazy if

445
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: he were the bachelor, because who would have known where

446
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: he and Caitlin to be today? I agree, and then

447
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: they make a lot of sense and it's really fun

448
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: to follow them well. On the next headline, uh, Kristin

449
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: Cavaliery shares a kiss with Bachelor Nations Tyler Cameron on set.

450
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: This according to e Okay, when I first saw these pictures,

451
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I was like, that looks like a set. Everybody was

452
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: geeking out because they thought that maybe they were dating,

453
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: but it was so setty. I was like, if Tyler

454
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: does kiss like that in just a real life scenario,

455
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: then he really is like that romantic movie lead. And

456
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: I was right. They were on photo shoot for Uncommon

457
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: James Her brand, which does you know like apparel and

458
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: home goods and jewelry and stuff. Um, and Kristen came

459
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: out and said, sweetest guy ever, Like, wow, what an

460
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: amazing guy. Loved being around him. But we are not dating.

461
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: He's just a hunk that's brought in for the campaign. Yep.

462
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: And he has the perfect look for that, doesn't he Ben.

463
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: We didn't really talk about this, but you interviewed him

464
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: when I was on my two week alternity leave. He

465
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: came across so wonderfully. He's like really grounded and down

466
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: to earth for what a celebrity he's become. Yeah, I

467
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: think so. I think that's what was so attractive about him,

468
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: um and endearing because I kind of came in that

469
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: interview thinking, Okay, I'm interviewing more of like a celebrity

470
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: more than somebody from our world. And he know, he

471
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: talked a lot about it in the interview. Even it's

472
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: worth going back and listen to, like, you know, he's

473
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: building homes now, and he i know, focusing on Florida

474
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: and where his families and his friendships, and it kind

475
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: of feels like, I mean, this might come off poorly.

476
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing fine and there's gonna be a

477
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: lot of more opportunities to come his way, but it

478
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: almost feels like, Okay, I've ran my race and it's

479
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: been fun, and I've done the things, and I've walked

480
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: the red carpets, and I've lived in New York and

481
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I've dated all those things, and now I see what's

482
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: important to me. And what I think he was saying

483
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: was it's the simple things in life, and that is

484
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: a great place to get to. I think any person

485
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: of any kind said, you know, when they find that out,

486
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: life gets really exciting when you can enjoy the small

487
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: little moments as I was talking about at the beginning

488
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: of the episode. And I'm just starting to learn that.

489
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: I can't even say I have yet, but I'm just

490
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: starting to learn that. And uh, it was a good

491
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: interview and he was very grounded. I think it's a

492
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: good word to use their um. But when Kristin Cavalley

493
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: comes calling and says, Hey, what are you doing? Ad

494
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: with me and make out with me, I'm sure he's

495
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: like I was gonna say, Wow, Tyler, just continue to

496
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: prove to women that you are that Nicholas Sparks character,

497
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: because he's like, all I want is to move home

498
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: and build houses with my dad with my bare hands.

499
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: Ye didn't he quote Nicholas Sparks or like have a

500
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: something in his season with Hannah Brown that was like

501
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: very Nicholas Sparks as sitting on the cliff side. Yeah,

502
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: like every moment he had he was like paddling boats

503
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and stuff. Good for him. Yeah, some guys just can't

504
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: lose um. The next inline is this Marissa Gunn reveals

505
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: she's still looking for love after breakup with Riley Christian.

506
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: This according to Bachelor Nation. Okay, there's a little shade

507
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: in these quotes. Let me know if you pick it up.

508
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to read a verbate him and I want

509
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: you to see if you you hear what I hear.

510
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: She said, We've decided. You know this is back in

511
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, January decided that our separate ways. Never did

512
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: imagine this. He came to a point where we need

513
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: to work on ourselves. And now she is talking to

514
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: baschel nation dot com, which is like the official like

515
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: bachelor news source, you know, associated with the franchise. Now,

516
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: guess'd be if you know we are an official Bachelor

517
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: news site you know, uh organization as well. Um, she said,

518
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: I want Bachelor Nation to know I'm still looking for love.

519
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: Love is the most important thing to me. I want

520
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: a husband. Seriously. It sucks. It really sucks coming out

521
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: of an experience where you think everyone is looking for that,

522
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: especially when you think you found it like a ring

523
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: on your finger and everything. She was, I know this

524
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: experience can work, but it takes two to make it work.

525
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmmb. But she's looking for love. That's good for her.

526
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: She deserves it. She's basically insinuating that Riley was on

527
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: the show not for love. Oh don't you hear that?

528
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: I hear it. Um, you know if you think everyone

529
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: is looking for that? And then she said it takes

530
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: two to make it work, so oh well, we wish

531
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Speaker 1: her the best. I know that she was at Batchel

532
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: Live on stage, or at least I think. I can't

533
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: say I know because I saw a video and I

534
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: believe she was there. Um, but maybe she wasn't. But

535
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I believe she was at Bachelor Live on stage recently.

536
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: And I have a headline about bachel Live on Stage

537
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: more importantly about our friends here Booth. Because Tia Booth

538
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: gets engaged this week at Bachelor Live on stage to

539
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. It's a big deal. It's something to celebrate.

540
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: And also, come on, what is spot to get engaged

541
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: in front of I don't know, a thousand of your

542
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: biggest fans. I know, I wonder why her boyfriend Taylor

543
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: decided to do that. I'm sure he was able to

544
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: figure out the kind of engagement that you would want.

545
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool that he made it

546
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: like a full circle moment for The Bachelor, because Tia

547
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: is definitely one of the things we one of the

548
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: people that we think of when we think of like

549
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: the most recent seasons of The Bachelor, she's probably been

550
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: like one of the more interesting storyline to follow, and

551
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: she didn't. She was obsessed with Colton, you know, and

552
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: now we see her where that went. So they got engaged,

553
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: And a little bit more about their story. I put yeah,

554
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: by the way, like I opened up Instagram today and

555
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: it was the first thing I saw and I was like,

556
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so exciting. It kind of

557
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: felt fast, but also like I think when you're a

558
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: certain age, it's just like, oh, nine months of dating,

559
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: it's probably good. It's probably good enough. So a little

560
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: bit about their backstory. They met last January, like January

561
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: at a party in Nashville. He had just moved from California,

562
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: and they were like hanging out in the same group

563
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: of friends. He apparently one day got the balls. T

564
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: says to hit on her and get him to hang

565
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: get her to hang out with him. But she goes, Sweetie,

566
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm going on Bachelor in Paradise. I'll see you later.

567
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: And then when she came back to Nashville and she

568
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: was still single. She was like, Holy, well, this guy

569
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: has been here all this whole time, and you know,

570
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: she gave it a shot, and she said that that's

571
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: been been so great ever since. She also says that

572
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: this guy truly doesn't get enough credit for what I've

573
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: put him through. Um. She came into my life during

574
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the most difficult season I've ever faced, and he hasn't wavered.

575
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I've tried to push him away more times than I

576
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: can count, but he stuck with me through it all. Um.

577
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: She also says, maybe we're when we're on the other

578
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: side of it, I'll write a book to explain. But

579
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: for now, here's some genuine soft smiles. So now that

580
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: they're on the other side of things, it'll be interesting

581
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: to see if she does write a book. And the

582
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: time that she's talking about being difficult is because she

583
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: lost her dad about a month ago, so sad. I

584
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: feel so bad for um, But it seems like this

585
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: guy Taylor has really been a rock through it all.

586
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for her. The engagement happened at the

587
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: Fox Theater in Atlanta, UM on yeah, yesterday on the tenth,

588
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: So exciting and really happy for her. Uh, And I'm

589
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: sure having like I think her best friend Becca as

590
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: the host of that show probably helped Taylor make this

591
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: decision too, because they're so close, and knowing that Becca

592
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: could help cultivate an incredible moment for Tia, I'm sure

593
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: played into it. So congratulations at Tia and Taylor on

594
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: their recent engagement. Very recent engagement. Actually not much of

595
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: a headline here, but just some update that we should

596
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: um communicate to all the listeners. Bachelor creator uh says

597
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: that there's no drama between Gabby and Rachel in the

598
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: new season. That's a big update. Actually, if you read

599
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: into that is so far. I don't hear so far

600
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: in that, but I it kind of to me actuley

601
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: tell me if you think I'm wrong. It's hinting that

602
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: the show doesn't want drama, They're not going to try

603
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: to cultivate any drama between the two, and that the

604
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: drayma won't come from the two leads, it will come

605
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: more from the cast. I'm hoping that's the case. Actually,

606
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: I like that idea better than the opposite. This definitely

607
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: seems like something that Mike Plaice is trying to perpetuate

608
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, really emphasized to fans that there's that there's

609
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: no drama between the two, probably because of the past.

610
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: You know what Caitlin was saying in a headline last week.

611
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: It just always seems like there's like two bachelorettes. You know,

612
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: there was Katie and then Michelle, and it seemed like

613
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: they really wanted Michelle to be the lead, but they

614
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: had to stall and wait for her until school is over,

615
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: and then you know, both Caitlin and and Britt you

616
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: know that they the audience really thinks they messed up

617
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: there pitting two women against each other, having guys vote

618
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: on which one they liked more like, that's just like

619
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine if they announced something like that today.

620
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: How much has changed in the past seven years. It's crazy.

621
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, I'm actually thinking that because he said this,

622
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I feel like multiple times, and the production crew just

623
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: has to know how um poorly it'll go over if

624
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: they pick them against each other. I think there might

625
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: not be any I'm hoping maybe to a small certain degree,

626
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: but like I don't think it's going to be like

627
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: an ongoing storyline. Yeah, and maybe the show will try

628
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: to do everything they can to keep it calm and collected,

629
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: and maybe the setup of the show this year is

630
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: not even allowing those two to really compete, which it

631
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: would be odd to me if they had those two

632
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor that's competing over anything at all. It just doesn't

633
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: seem right, It doesn't seem fair, and it seems super

634
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: awkward to watch. If your two leads are like battling

635
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: it out for some reason, that's just weird. I'm hoping

636
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't end in this. Actually, this is my hope. Okay,

637
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: call me whatever you want to call me. From this naive,

638
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm hoping there's not a scenario at the end, like

639
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: they both like the same person and that person has

640
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: to choose. Um. Like, I'm hoping it's not how this

641
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: is going down, and that the last episode will be

642
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: this play up of you know, we'll see the teaser

643
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: of the two leads crying, and I just think that

644
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: would be so hard to watch and not fun for

645
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: me to watch. I don't want to see that. I

646
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: don't want to even experience that moment where somebody's putting

647
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: the scenario and those two women are putting this scenario

648
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: to have to choose it seems odd. Yeah, It would

649
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: be a real full circle moment though, for a guy

650
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: to say, again, I'm in love with both of you, right,

651
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: But hopefully that's not their goal. I just can't think

652
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: of a set up in which if they they the

653
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: guys don't have to choose. I feel like at some

654
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: point the guys are gonna have to choose or and

655
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: even if they do and it's just like, okay, it's

656
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: the Gabby camp and Rachel camp, it's still gonna be

657
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: like awkward. If one girl has more guys on her

658
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: team than the other girl, it's gonna be super awkward. Yeah,

659
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: and still unnecessary will be the thing I would say

660
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: is like, it's just unnecessary there. It's still kind of

661
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: like voting. Yeah, it is. Get to see how both,

662
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, seasons are going to play out, because it'll

663
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: be like two seasons in one and I know myself

664
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: like if I was one of them, it would be

665
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: a competition and my insecurity of feeling like, hey, once

666
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: people really get to know me, they aren't gonna like me,

667
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: and once people all that stuff like that would be

668
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: playing out. As I'm on a show that is already

669
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: hard enough to try to navigate, I'd be looking around

670
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: be like, oh, she has twelve, I have ten, and

671
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: her twelve seem to be having a lot better time

672
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: than my tin, and I just that's just a mind

673
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: game that brings out insecurities that just isn't necessary. And

674
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I don't. I don't like

675
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: that for them. Who knows. This is all speculation. It

676
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: could they could figure out the perfect balance here and

677
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: we could all be wrong. I don't know. Kind of

678
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: crazy that we have to wait till July to figure

679
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: out how they're going to handle this. Yeah, I'll be honest,

680
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about it too much. I mean, I've

681
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: joined this offseason. We watched a lot of Bachelor for

682
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: the last year of my life. Couple of love updates

683
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: before we get to the big headline of the week.

684
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: Let's actually pause here, actually before we even get to

685
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: the love updates. Take a break. When we come back,

686
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: we have two more updates, and then we're gonna talk

687
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: about Clayton uh and the mess that was TikTok and

688
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: Clayton and um, I don't know, some human on TikTok

689
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: this last week and rumors that she sparked put the

690
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: internet and uproar. We'll come back talking about it in

691
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: just a second. Alright, Ashley first love headline, interesting headline

692
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: one that I'm I don't know call evil or what.

693
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm super just intrigued with the storyline. I don't know

694
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: how it worked out, and I don't know the details

695
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: of it, but I I'm enjoying it. H Hannah Brown

696
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: talks brother Patrick's upcoming wedding to Jed Wyatt's ex Hailey

697
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: stevens Uh. Family trauma is the word that's used this

698
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: according to US Weekly, all Right, do you remind anybody

699
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: who doesn't remember or tell anybody who doesn't know. Hannah

700
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: Brown's brother is now engaged to the girl that Jed

701
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: was dating back at home when he got engaged to

702
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: Hannah on the Bachelorette. Really crazy, weird, small world. A

703
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, she said, I just want my

704
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: brother to be happy, and yeah they're getting married, I'll

705
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: be there. She sounds thrilled. She says, I just want

706
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: to support my brother continuing to grow and if they

707
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: make each other happy, I'm happy for them. Okay, So yeah,

708
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: that was back in November, and now more recently she's saying,

709
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: you can love your family and still know that there

710
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: are things that can be triggering. Because we love our family.

711
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: We're not going to say anything or like you said,

712
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you can't choose family, but the way that we grow

713
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: up is so pivotal to these patterns that we find

714
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: ourselves in. So it can be helpful if you could

715
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: write in toowards like what your relationship with your mom,

716
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: um or dad or siblings are, and then you can

717
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: connect the dots with some patterns that you might have

718
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: in your life. Um. She says that the more I

719
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: go to therapy, the more I've realized when I go

720
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: back home, there's this anxiety that I don't understand why

721
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: it's creeping up. And it's not like I don't love

722
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: my family, but every family things can be triggering or upsetting.

723
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: To be able to actually set a boundary with your family,

724
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: to be able to better communicate instead of continuing to

725
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: build up these walls is really helpful. She says. Of

726
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: course I wanted to put that in this journal because

727
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: she's talking about how she's launching her a little like

728
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: a spinoff of her book, which is God Bless this Mess.

729
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: So it's now that God Bless this Mess journal where

730
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: you'd like kind of like work out your issues and

731
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: all your mess right in the journal. And so she's

732
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, putting things down on paper and

733
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: how that can be therapeutic. So she says, I wanted

734
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: to put that on my journal because you can't choose

735
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: your family or what you're born into. You can choose

736
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: how to communicate and the boundaries that you set and

737
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: how you love one another and how you show up

738
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: for your family. So I think, like, basically, like I'm

739
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: not trying to put words into hand his mouth, but

740
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: like maybe it's not like the most ideal situation. I

741
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't imagine her. I think it's very fair to say

742
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ideal. It's gonna happen. It sounds

743
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: like and it's something that I'm sure she's going to celebrate,

744
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: But I don't think she's like, this is the coolest

745
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: thing ever. Yeah, super weird. Um Hey, you know what,

746
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: it's better than her having a sister and the sister

747
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: marrying Jed. That would be really weird. Yes you are actually,

748
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: um hey, big headline here, Knda Long comes out publicly

749
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: with her new boyfriend. This is something to celebrate. There's

750
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: not a headline where it we're just breaking the news

751
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: here on the Almost Famous podcast. She came out publicly

752
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: on social media, sharing a bunch of really cute pictures

753
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: of the two of them, um being weird together, which

754
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: is perfect, uh in something ideal, But yes, Kendall Long

755
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: has came out with a new boyfriend who she seems

756
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: to care about a lot. Yeah, I mean, we don't

757
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: know much about him, um, but we do know, like

758
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: we know his name because she's tagged him in things.

759
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: But it was really exciting because well, when we were

760
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: all rooting for Kendall over the summer, you know, maybe

761
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: not to end up with Joe, but we were we

762
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: were like hoping for her happiness, so we felt bad

763
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: she was having to watch her ex, the like the

764
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: guy that she it was like the big love of

765
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: her life fall in love with somebody else. Like that's

766
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: just like, like I had so much sympathy empathy for

767
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: and now she is in a happy relationship with a

768
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: guy named Mitch. And I love the way she captioned

769
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: this picture or this set of pictures with the two

770
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: of them, which are all looking like pretty quirky, like

771
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: very on par with what I'd expect Kendall to be

772
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: with the captain reads this by the way, I'm in

773
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: love and just like our relationship, these pictures get progressively weirder,

774
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: so so cute, so so happy for them. I can't

775
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: wait to continue to watch that love bloom on social No.

776
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: So great for her, She's somebody really love on the show.

777
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: And uh, really exciting that she found somebody to get

778
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: quirky with, because she is quirky, like she admits that

779
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: she is. She's but she's fun and she's exciting and

780
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: she's interesting, and so it's nice that she feels like

781
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: she's found somebody um to be that with, especially following

782
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: batch from Paradise this year. Uh hey, Ashley, before we

783
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: get to the big heabine, I do just want to

784
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: mention to you and ask your thoughts on Dancing with

785
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: the Stars getting dropped by ABC after thirty seasons. Is

786
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: that a big deal to you when a second year

787
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: drop you? This on me? I didn't know that you

788
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: didn't know, crap. I know that they announced their lineup

789
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: today because other headline, Bachelor in Paradise is renewed for

790
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: an eighth season. You don't know the timeline necessarily of

791
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: when it's going to be shot in and on TV.

792
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: But it is. It's happening like I predicted it would

793
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: be the past two weeks. But holy crap. Then wow, Yeah,

794
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. It's going to Disney Plus. Uh

795
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: so now it's only going to be on a streaming service,

796
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: which is a down It's it's a big deal. A

797
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: little bit of a down grid, Oh, a little bit,

798
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: it's I think it's a big down grade. Um. And uh,

799
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole new world for for Dance

800
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: at the Stars. It's also I don't know how much

801
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: of their demo has Disney Plus, right, I mean a

802
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of their demo is similar to The Bachelor. Yeah,

803
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: it's an older demographic, so how many of those are

804
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: streaming Disney Plus. It's always that's a bit of question.

805
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: It's been talked about. It's kind of I mean, I

806
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: don't believe streaming is where shows are going to go

807
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: to die, right. I think most things, if I were

808
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: to predict, are going to move over to streaming um

809
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: in the next few years. However, this does seem like, uh,

810
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: it's preemptive to win. Streaming will actually be the main

811
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: outlet to which we watch television, and so it feels

812
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: like shows are going there as they kind of say

813
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: goodbye to the world, and it's kind of the last hurrah.

814
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. So that's what I thought was

815
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: going to happen to Paradise, because you know, there was

816
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: a speculation that it may not be happening, and I

817
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think they're just gonna drop it.

818
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: But I could have seen them going and putting it

819
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: on Hulu. Yeah, definitely, I could have seen that too.

820
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: But I'm glad Paradise is back. It's obviously a really

821
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: fun show. I did not Yeah, I did not ask

822
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Wells at all. I was with him for the last

823
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: four days. I didn't ask him one thing about Paradise,

824
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: mostly because I'm sure everybody asked him about Paradise, and

825
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's always questions and speculation around us to

826
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: see it. You know, we're here to play golf, we're

827
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: here to be ends, um. So I didn't ask him

828
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: at all, even though there was times I wanted to,

829
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: but it never got brought up, um, And I think

830
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: that's probably healthy and good. But I am excited that

831
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: it is coming back, and I hope we see Wells

832
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: on Paradise. It doesn't feel like Paradise without Wells now

833
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: behind the bar, which originally, um, you know, when he

834
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the bartender, it was kind of this, like how

835
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: is well Is gonna fit in here? Now it's like, no,

836
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: Wills is Paradise. He's he is in a lot of ways.

837
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the host. We'll say,

838
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: that's just what my gut tells me. I wouldn't be

839
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: mad about it. I don't think Batchel Nation would be

840
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: bad about it, No, definitely not. I think it'd be

841
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: a great host. Well. Um, final headline, Actually, we're gonna

842
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: spend a little bit of time on this, not too

843
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: much because um, it's all filtered its way through now,

844
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: but it is a wild story. We're gonna see if

845
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Speaker 1: we can make sense of it all. Um. But the

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Speaker 1: headline reads this, It's one of the bigger headlines that

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Speaker 1: have came through Batchel Nation, um in the last few months.

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Speaker 1: And I'm actually kind of shocked it became a big headline,

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Speaker 1: quite honest. And I'll tell you why. I have to

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Speaker 1: we break it down. But the Bachelor's star Clayton Eckert

851
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Speaker 1: addresses cheating accusations from TikTok user. His comment is this

852
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. According to insider, Ashley, walk us through this

853
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Speaker 1: and then I'll tell you why I'm confused on how

854
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Speaker 1: this even became a thing. Okay, first off, sounds in

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00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: the background are Dawson on the bottle, So try not

856
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: to be annoyed at the slurping. Isn't it funny the

857
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: way that like baby slurping, baby chewing, it's not annoying,

858
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: it's not gross, it's adorable. Same with dog chewing human chewing.

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Speaker 1: Discussing anyway, moving on to the headline. Yeah, so there's

860
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: this girl on TikTok. Her name is Sasha. She posted

861
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: a video on Saturday saying that she was at a

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00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: bar with Clayton and he basically hit on her and

863
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: wanted to take her home, and that he pretty much

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00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: much cheated on Susie. To be super clear, she says

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00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: these are the quotes. She goes, so we're kind of flirting,

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Speaker 1: and then he proceeds to ask me do you watch

867
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: The Bachelor? And then I go no because I've never

868
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: seen it before. And then she said that they were

869
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: chatting and they hung out later together. He was very

870
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Speaker 1: like sneaky, meaning he was very adamant about being quiet.

871
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, like keeping this affair

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00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: quiet or like being physically quiet. I don't know. And

873
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: then she says, right when it was time for me

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Speaker 1: to go, he made it very clear that I couldn't

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Speaker 1: stay over. So it sounds like she was like, you

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00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: need to be quiet about this rondezvous. Uh, you can't

877
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: stay over. And yeah, so this came out. The girl

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00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: thinks that she was hooking up with Clinton, but I've

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Speaker 1: got to say, I don't think she did, because both

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00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: Clinton and Susie came out defending you know, their party. Now.

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Speaker 1: I went to go watch the original TikTok from this

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Speaker 1: girl Sasha, and it no longer exists anymore, so Susan.

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Speaker 1: But I did get to watch Susie's um where she

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Speaker 1: defends him. So she shows texts and calls, like a

885
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: FaceTime call from Clayton at the time in which she

886
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: was supposedly cheating on her on Saturday or on like

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Speaker 1: Friday night or whatnot. She was like, no, this is

888
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: Clayton facetiving meat from Arizona, not New York City, where

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00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: this girl is claiming to have hooked up with him,

890
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: and then to further approve she had him like on

891
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: find my Friends or whatever, find my iPhone, and it

892
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: proved to Susie that he was in Arizona at the

893
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: time of this alleged cheating, not New York. And I

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00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: don't think you can argue with that, right, It's not

895
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: like he has a burner phone that he's keeping in

896
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Speaker 1: Arizona so that Susie can see that he's in a

897
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: different state than where he's hooking up with some other

898
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Speaker 1: random person. And the fact that the video was taken

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Speaker 1: down kind of makes me feel like it was also illegitimate.

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Speaker 1: It's not like TikTok is, you know, doing some fact

901
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: checking or whatnot. But I feel like a little defamation there.

902
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, here's my comment and

903
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: you can maybe tell me and wait before you go

904
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Speaker 1: into that, can I just say, I don't think that,

905
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: like he would be so dumb as you do this

906
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: so soon? Yeah, And I think he's into Susie, like

907
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: why in the world, like would he do this? But

908
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know Clayton that well. We've had him on

909
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: the podcast obviously when he was in the midst of

910
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: kind of like his tornado of chaos during the season,

911
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: but he's he's came out of that now he seems

912
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: very happy. Um, I don't know how this became a story.

913
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Speaker 1: And that's where I'm confused here, because accusations like this

914
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: happened all the time and are they're mostly false. Uh.

915
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: They just you know, people like to make a headline

916
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: and they'll come on TikTok and they make a video

917
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: about so and so flirted with me at the bar

918
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: from this show or this actor or this actress or

919
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of times it happens from the bachelor franchise,

920
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: because bachelor franchises will be you known for love, and

921
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: people think you're just in it for fame and not

922
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: for the relationship, and so people come off and people

923
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: like they're not really together. In fact, we were flirting

924
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: at the bar last night. Okay, that happened, people have.

925
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. Uh, And and a lot

926
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: of times you never even know about it unless you're

927
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: the person getting blamed and accused of And then you

928
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: see it because it pops up on your messages and

929
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: be or send somebody sends you the little video and

930
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: you're like, no, that's not true. I'm just going to

931
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: ignore it. Why did Clayton feel like he had to

932
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: respond to this? Was it getting enough momentum even before

933
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: his response that he was like, oh my gosh, people

934
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: are believing this. It must have been. It must have

935
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: been going viral on TikTok. I think because it's charable, okay,

936
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Speaker 1: that it was probably just being seen too too much. Yeah,

937
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: it could be. I didn't know. I mean, I haven't

938
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Speaker 1: seen the video itself, and I saw the apology video

939
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Speaker 1: that the girl posted is like, yeah, we was confirmed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She's like, we confirmed it's not Clayton. The footage that Clayton,

941
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Susie and myself have shows a different person. Uh, you know,

942
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: maybe it was this guy pretending to be Clayton must

943
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: have been or somebody in the franchise. It's like a

944
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: look alike who's trying to be Clayton. Yeah, I know.

945
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Speaker 1: She never says in this TikTok, the original one, she

946
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: never she never says, I met a guy named Clayton

947
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Speaker 1: who was on the Bachelor, who was the Bachelor. It's

948
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: just this guy, says, do you watch the Bachelor? Yeah? Yeah,

949
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean it could have just been another Bachelor dude,

950
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: and like totally been another Bachelor guy. I mean even

951
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: a nobody who was like two episodes. I mean that

952
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: would be my guest's you know, that's probably the best

953
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: pickup line for somebody's there two weeks is hey, have

954
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: you ever watched a Bachelor? I was on it and

955
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: there's no fault up to it. Oh my gosh, how

956
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: many weeks? Then this girl was probably like thinking, oh,

957
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: you were the Bachelor, like not thinking oh you could

958
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: have been one of the thirty. Yeah, I mean I

959
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm assuming that's how this played out. I

960
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't put it past anybody from the franchise

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Speaker 1: to use that as a pickup line, especially if you're

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00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: single in New York. Yeah. Yeah. And she also said

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00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: something along the lines of, um, I didn't know I

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00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: was ruining a marriage, So like she was going on,

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00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: that's really aggressive to like what a comment and like

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00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: how and I don't know, like how do you even

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00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: say that and like do it with us? Like that

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00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: would be awful? You made a TikTok thinking that you

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00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: ruined a marriage, and you're like, I didn't know I

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00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: was ruined a marriage. But sorry, like this I don't know,

971
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: absolutely messy, so weird, but it did go all through

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Speaker 1: the internet. It was everywhere reality. Steve got involved, he

973
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: was wanting to interview her. Maybe he ended up interviewing her. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was just a big old mess of a situation.

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Speaker 1: And it's uh, it's all clear now, so we can

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Speaker 1: move on and go past it. Ashley, that's all the

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Speaker 1: headlines we have for everybody to date. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of headlines, a lot going on in bachel Nation. We

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Speaker 1: want to say thank you to everybody from bachel Nation

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00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: for continuing to create these stories that we can get

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Speaker 1: behind and celebrate, and some of them we can talk about. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we were just able to do an almost hour long

983
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Speaker 1: podcast just because of headlines this week. Unbelievable, unbelievable. What Hey,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week breaking down more headlines, talking

985
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: about more things from the Bachelor, catching up on everybody's life. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be great. We're gonna

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00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: keep you informed and get you motivated and ramped up

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00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: for a new season of the Bachelorette that will be

989
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: coming in July of this year. Hey, until then, i've

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Speaker 1: been been I've been Ashley by followed the Benn and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or

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