1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Well come. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: In Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show all hell 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: is broken loose after Joe Biden decided to pardon Hunter. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: So many people out there on the left in media 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: have no idea how to react because they have been 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: abjectly humiliated on so many different fronts for so long. First, 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: they were required or felt obligated to tell you all 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: that Biden was sharp as attack behind closed doors. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Remember the cheap fake wide of argument. Buck. 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: It feels like so long ago, but it was only 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: in June of twenty twenty four that they decided to 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: trot out all those videos you see of Joe Biden 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: looking mentally and physically unable to do the job. 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Those aren't real, that's just cheap fakes. 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Remember that phrase that they tried to trot out there, 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Biden's actually sharpest attack. And then the June twenty seventh 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: presidential debate happened, and overnight they all pivoted and said, actually, 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: you know what, we've got to replace him. They put 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: all the pressure on the replacement. Then they came out 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: and they told you that Kamala Harris was the greatest 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: presidential candidate ever. Even on election night, Joy Reid was 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: telling us that Kamala Harris had run a flawless campaign 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: and that it was brat summer and everybody was overwhelmed 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: by how good of a job Kamala Harris was doing. 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: That was the next argument they told us. Then they 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: told all of you that Trump was going to murder 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: everybody in firing squads. And then Kamala got squashed and 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: they said, well, you know, we'll see what happens here. 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, they also argued that nobody 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: was above the law for the past two years. And 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: then Joe Biden on Thanksgiving weekend on Sunday, It now 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: is clear Buck didn't even go through the usual pardon process. 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: There is a part in review board ish that you're 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: supposed to involve in the presidential and pardon process. Biden 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: just said, screw it, I'm gonna pardon a hunter. They 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: leaked it like five minutes beforehand. I was talking to 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: some people last night, Buck. They said, even the entire 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: Biden administration didn't know until like five minutes beforehand. 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: So he just threw everybody under the bus. 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: And now we've talked about this, Buck, and I do 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: think it's important for everybody out there to understand. 42 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Being made to look like a moron personally. 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: Is where many people in media will draw the line 44 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: and finally show that they do have some backbone. Because 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: being intelligent and being respected for their intelligence, for their erudition, 46 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: it's a huge part of the self worth of the 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: talking head class. And so when you have abjectly humiliated 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: them and they feel like you have thrown them under 49 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: the bus, they actually will suddenly show up and say 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: the things that you and I normally say every day 51 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: on the radio. 52 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 3: And they lost, right, so it's all for nothing. They 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: will abide endless humiliation. Democrat journals, partisans, activists, all the 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: same thing. They'll say absolutely they they did. They said 55 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: that somebody with obvious dementia that they now agree is 56 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: obvious dementia did not have dementia because it served their 57 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: political interest at the time. 58 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Right. 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: They will say absolutely anything in the service of power. 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: And so when they lose now and we knew this 61 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: is going to happen, right, there was the initial couple 62 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: of weeks of just wow, what an incredible victory for 63 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: Trump and a lot of Republicans, by the way, a 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: lot of close, a lot of great Senate races we 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: won a lot of House seats that could have gone 66 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: either way. I wish we had won a little bit 67 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: more of a majority, but anyway, but you know some 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: very big wins. The biggest win of all of course, 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, huge sweeping win. But we knew that then 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: Clay was going to transition into this. And I have 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: to say this part of the process, which is the 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: metaphorical circular firing squad of Democrats at this point, like 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: trying to figure out. We'll talk about it someone else 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: talking about firing squads a little bit later since Yames. 75 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: But the Democrats doing this finger pointing exercise of who's 76 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: responsible for all of this? It's even more insane than 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: I had prepared myself for because they were even crazier 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: than I remember at this point, which is saying a lot. 79 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: And this can bring us to do you want to do, 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: Dan Goldman right now, because this is how bad it's gotten. 81 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: They are now at CNN and MSNBC even willing to 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: humiliate Democrat congress people for what they said on the program. 83 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: So let's play the flashback here. This is May of 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Representative Dan Goldman, Democrat of New York, 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: the most zealous Biden defenders tells ABC's Jean Carl Biden 86 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't pardon Hunter. 87 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 4: Listen, do you think a pardon for his son would 88 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: be a mistake? Yes, And I don't think there's any 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: chance that President Biden is going to do that, unlike 90 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: his predecessor, who pardoned all of his friends and anyone 91 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: who had any access to him. And I think you 92 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: see that in this case where he kept on and 93 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: Merrick Garland kept on. A Trump appointed US attorney to 94 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: investigate the president's son. If there is not an indication 95 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: of the independence of the Department of Justice, beyond that, 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: I don't know what we could look for. 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 98 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: To her credit, Brianna Kyler, I might be mispronounced Keeler. 99 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: All right, No, no, you knew either. CNN's morning host. 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 2: I think she's the morning host. 101 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: Now. 102 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: She made Dan Goldman this is really funny, Buck. I 103 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: gotta admit that I watched this and I this like 104 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: this is good television. She made Dan Goldman watch video 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: of himself claiming Biden wouldn't pardon his son, and then said, 106 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: what does that feel like? 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Listen? 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: You took him at his word, So what does that 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 5: feel like knowing that he's gone back on it. 110 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 6: I said many times that if Hunter Biden were not 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: Hunter Biden, he would never be charged with these crimes. 112 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 6: And when you start to see what Donald Trump is 113 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 6: planning to do with his Department of Justice and with 114 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 6: his FBI, and the degree to which Hunter Biden has 115 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 6: already been shamelessly attacked as a private citizen by Republicans, 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: I certainly understand why the President felt like this miscarriage 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 6: of justice should not carry forward and that he should 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 6: not be at risk of retributive prosecution for political reasons. 119 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that actually clip is not her pushing him as 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: aggressively as she did. To her credit, the clip that 121 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: I watched a couple of times, Bucks, she like actually 122 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: called him out as he was answering no. 123 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: She basically like, no, no, no, seriously, how does it feel? 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 6: Like? 125 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: She kept going back to, like, we get your version 126 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: of it too. That was a longer form version, a 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: little bit different. But it goes to our larger point here, Buck, 128 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: which is even the journalists are embarrassed to have been 129 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: involved in this right now. 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: So a couple of two things here. On your point 131 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: about the embarrassment, this is a little bit like, and 132 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I haven't married long and I'm 133 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: not saying this has happened to me, but I have 134 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: been in the car before driving with perhaps a woman 135 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: also in the car. 136 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it was my wife. Maybe this is many many 137 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: years ago. And you say pre gps. 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Because that's how old I am. I know where I'm going, 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: it's fine. And then you get so lost and you 140 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: can feel just the seething anger and irritation at whoever 141 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: is sitting next to you in that car because you 142 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 3: have now taken them into the middle. 143 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: Clay my family, my. 144 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: Dad, if he's listening, he's gonna yell at me for this. 145 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: We used to go visit my family in Charlottesville. Are 146 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: our other family in Charlottesville every year for Thanksgiving for 147 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: many many years maker we would get lost and end 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: up in the Battle of Manassas Battlefield every year somehow 149 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: at like midnight too because of all the traffic, so 150 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: we're like running out of gas. Battle of Manassas Battlefield, 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: how you used to visit historically, by the way, in 152 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: northern Virginia, not far from DC. 153 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: It is not Charlottesville. Yes, that's accurate. 154 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: But I remember my Mom's sitting there and you can 155 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: feel that is how these journals now feel about these 156 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: Democrats who have led them across the middle and thrown 157 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: a wobbly pass football. Oh there you go, yesk you 158 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: and the other thing though, and maybe this is a 159 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: more important point, Clay. Here's this guy Goldman. He's a lawyer, 160 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: he's a member of Congress. He was the hero of 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: impeachment two point zero for Democrats. 162 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: He's acting like hunter. Biden didn't do all of these things. 163 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: It is not. 164 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: Persecution if you broke the law and everybody he knows it, 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: and there's serious laws that other people go to prison for. 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: Here is something that I would say is the most 167 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: underutilized phrase in American life today. 168 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: I was wrong. 169 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: This congressman, if he weren't so self serious, could have 170 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: watched himself make a fool of himself and say, how 171 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: does that feel. I mean, that's a very valid question. 172 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: That's something that CNN should actually do, and he should 173 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: say I was wrong. And Joe Biden turned his back 174 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: on the entire argument that he made and that I 175 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: tried to make on his behalf, that Democrats stood for 176 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: the rule of law and Republicans did not. I think 177 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: he made a poor choice, and I wouldn't defend him, 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to defend him. I still believe 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: what I said six months ago, a year ago. Why 180 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: could nobody say that? Why do you have to objectly 181 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: ritually humiliate yourself Sometimes people do dumb things. When you 182 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: do something really stupid, everyone in America appreciates when you 183 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: just say I was wrong. Buck, you were talking about 184 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: being in a relationship. I don't know if I said 185 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: it on this program or I said it on an 186 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: interview I did with a comedian. Recently, people say the 187 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: three most powerful words in a relationship or I love you, 188 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: They're totally, incompletely wrong. You expect that the person you're 189 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: in a relationship with loves you. I was wrong is 190 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: actually the far more powerful three word phrase. Every married 191 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: woman in America would rather her husband say I was 192 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: wrong than I love you. And the ones who are 193 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: listening to me right now and don't agree are lying. 194 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: They would all rather you say I was wrong. Why 195 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: can't someone on television. I had to do this all 196 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: the time, Buck, when I gambled on sports, I had 197 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: to come on TV sixty percent of the time be like, 198 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, what. 199 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm a moron. I was wrong. I thought this was 200 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: going to happen, and something else happened. That's life. 201 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: You have to change your opinion and react to what occurred. 202 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: Why can't this Goldman guy just say, you know what, 203 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: I was right? Biden turned his back on us, He 204 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: blew it. Why can't he just be honest. 205 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: If he actually believes it. 206 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: There's a part of me that feels like the Democrats 207 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: and the Democrat media getting away with being entirely wrong 208 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: and lying about everything COVID related gave them a new 209 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: level of hubris, you know, almost like if we could 210 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: get away with that and not have to do a 211 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: public accountability apology tour, we can get away with anything. 212 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: I know, I'm maybe I'm connecting two disparate things, but 213 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: I do think that there was an unrivaled arrogance of 214 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: the so called media elites in this election. They were 215 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: living on another planet and they were saying things that 216 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: were blatantly and obviously false. They were delusional. They had 217 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: been made to believe delusions and made other people believe delusions, 218 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: which is what we're seeing now this I can't believe 219 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 3: to that point, we now have Brianna Keeler, who is 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: a Democrat partisan posing as a journalist or a journalist 221 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: posing as a whatever Democrat partisan. Here she is pushing 222 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: Congressman Goldman as you were describing play it. 223 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 5: What does that feel like watching yourself back then reassuring 224 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: people that Biden was not going to issue a pardon 225 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 5: for his son. 226 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that if that Plea agreement and 227 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: that Plea deal had gone through, there would be no pardon. 228 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 6: That was a satisfactory outcome. 229 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 5: Has already fallen Sorry, when you reacted, this was when 230 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: the deal had fallen through. And I hear what you're 231 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: saying about the cash Patel appointment, but you know you 232 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 5: took him at his word. So what does that feel 233 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 5: like knowing that he's gone back on it? 234 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 6: Well, as I said, I'm disappointed. 235 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So credit to her for pushing back some there, buck, 236 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: But that's what don't you think? 237 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: That's what people want to hear be accountable for what 238 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: you said and have to answer questions when you are 239 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: completely and totally wrong and you've been defending someone who 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: lied to the American public. 241 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: Yes. 242 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: I think really that the media had just gotten so 243 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: used to getting away with the most egregious lies. And 244 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: then also there's another part of this that we shouldn't forget, 245 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: which is that once you have no integrity to protect, 246 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: what's the difference. Yeah, and I think that after the 247 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: dementia lie broke in front of the whole nation in 248 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: a way that no, you will not find a single 249 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: person who will go on TV now from the Democrat 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: side and say Joe Biden actually was totally fine. Why 251 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: did everyone They might say he would win, which I 252 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: still or you know that he would have done better 253 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: than Kamala. I believe he would have done better than Kamala, 254 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: but still would have lost. But no one will say 255 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: that once you've lit your credibility on fire like that. 256 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: But what's the difference with saying Kamala is the greatest 257 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: nominee in the history of the country or whatever. Right, 258 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: It's all the same when you've told that kind of lie. 259 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: And again, there should be consequences when you are wrong. 260 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: And I wish he would have just stood on the 261 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: principle if your position is that you should accept what 262 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: decisions the courts make, and somebody else it wasn't Goldman's 263 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: decision to pardon his son and somebody else rejects that 264 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: you should stay committed to the principle and call out 265 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: your party into Some Democrats have been willing to do that, 266 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: but the most partisan are not, because they just immediately 267 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: shift and they will defend every decision even when it 268 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: is in fact indefensible. We'll take some of your calls 269 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: on this eight hundred and two two eight A two 270 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: as we roll through today's program. But if you're trying 271 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: to save money, and there's probably a lot of you 272 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: starting to save money because we're into December, and what 273 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: do we have, like basically what twenty three days? Is 274 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: that right now? Twenty three days ish until we get 275 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: to Christmas. It's crazy how quickly Christmas is going to 276 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: be here. After Thanksgiving was a late in the November Thanksgiving. 277 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: You're probably trying to save some money. 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Save a bundle for 290 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: the holidays right now, Pound two five. 291 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 7: Zero, saving America one thought at a time and Clay, 292 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 7: Travis and fuck sex to them. 293 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: Find them on the free. 294 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 295 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us. 296 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: I want to bring you a little bit of the 297 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: conversation on the CNN side of the equation. 298 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: I did watch over at MSNBC. 299 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: This morning, and Clay, let's be honest, they kind of 300 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: need me, you know what I mean? Now, all of 301 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: a sudden, being an MSNBC watcher is like being a 302 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: Florida voter circa two thousand, Like, oh man, they need 303 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: every single one they can get because every vote counts, 304 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: every viewer counts. Over there, they're having a rough one. 305 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: But I've also been seeing a lot of the way 306 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: they're trying to process this on CNN and the way 307 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: that they're trying to line up the arguments against now 308 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: they're really honed in. They've they made almost no noise 309 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: at all about Christy nom at DHS, which I think 310 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: is interesting. They're not she's not on the Democrats hate 311 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: list right now for nominees at all. They don't even 312 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: talk about it Tom Home and well Tom's super duper 313 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: qualified to do exactly what he does. So you know, 314 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: they they can't go If they can't go after qualifications 315 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: at all, what are they really going to say, we 316 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: don't like him because he's going to actually enforce the law. Well, 317 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: that's like an advertisement for him. They're going after hag Seth, 318 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: and they're going after cash Betel a lot, and I 319 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: don't think that they're breaking through with any new arguments 320 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 3: or or changing any people's minds about this. 321 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: We shall see though. 322 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: In the meantime, it has been very interesting over there 323 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: as they try to deal with this new reality and 324 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: the reality this week of the Biden Pardon You had 325 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: Jeffery Tubin's he is he. 326 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Back at seeing I thought he was He's back. He's back, 327 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: He's back. Wow. 328 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: Infamous Tubin as perhaps he could be known, we could 329 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: come up with some other names, but this is a 330 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: family show, so we keep a family friendly all the air. 331 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: But Jeffrey Tubin the first thing you google when you 332 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: see tub and we'll make sure you have your Google 333 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: filters on Tubit is a famous guy for certain reasons. 334 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: Some people are saying famous guy certain reasons. And here 335 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: he is pointing out that JA six pardons because this 336 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: is on the upside of the Hunter Biden pardon, other 337 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: than us getting to marinate in their agony this week 338 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: overlooking like such idiots in the media. 339 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Ooh, there's never going to pardon his son. 340 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew we would, But Clay, the possibility of 341 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: JA six pardons going up substantially is also tied to this. 342 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: This is cut seven to the point about the January 343 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: sixth people have been convicted. Do you think this kind 344 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: of opens the door for that. 345 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 8: It makes it more likely, and I think it already 346 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 8: was likely. You know, they're fifteen hundred people convicted in 347 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 8: the you know, broad January sixth investigation. Whether he pardons 348 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 8: every single one of them or just several hundred, I 349 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 8: think is is certain. 350 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: Most of them have already most of them have completed. 351 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 8: Their sentences or they weren't sentenced to prison in the 352 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 8: first place. But there are several hundreds still in prison, 353 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 8: including some for extreme crimes of violence. Will Trump pardon 354 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 8: them all? I don't know, but I think the likelihood 355 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 8: of a substantial number of pardons went up today because 356 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 8: of what Biden did yesterday. 357 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: I like that that's recognized as a side effect, if 358 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: you will, of the Hunter of Biden parton McLay. 359 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Can I just point out there are. 360 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: Many people We've talked a lot to Julie Kelly about this, 361 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: We've covered this a lot on the show. We've consistently 362 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: been highlighting the unfair treatment, the unjust treatment of j 363 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 3: six individuals Justice involved individuals from the sixth of January. 364 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: Perhaps we could call them although it. 365 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: Was injustice that they got, the fact that they were 366 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: prosecuted federally for trespassing. Yeah, is when you actually take 367 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: a step back, and I know that it's been normalized 368 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: for this stuff to happen to our side in the media, 369 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: and I know that we're supposed to think even though 370 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: we don't, we don't buy it, but you know, we're 371 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: supposed to think that in some way this is you know, 372 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: the law is the law. People had the FBI raiding 373 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: their homes because they walked and we've seen the videos 374 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: they walked into the Capitol building when a lot of 375 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: them were actually kind of waved through by Capitol Hill police, 376 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: and they walked in and they took photos. I mean 377 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: there's that photo of them like respecting the ropes in 378 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: the Statuary Hall or whatever. I mean, we've seen this stuff, 379 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: and the FBI went and hunted them down like they're 380 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: members of al Qaida. 381 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: They absolutely should be part and they must be parted. 382 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is one where if they were asking 383 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: me advice, I told you what my advice would have 384 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: been for Joe Biden. Pardon Trump and when you're going 385 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: to pardon your son, this is one where I would 386 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: say to the Trump team, do everything on day one 387 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: remotely possible under U presidential powers, flood the zone. Because 388 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to be alarmist, but I think the 389 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: likelihood is you have to think about the trajectory of 390 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: where the country is headed. Democrats have a very good 391 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: chance of taking back the House in twenty twenty six. 392 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: Typically off president election years do not go well for 393 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: the party in power. We know that they have to 394 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: a large extent, rigged many different blue states. 395 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to say. 396 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: Oh, look at how unfair the jerrymandering is in Florida 397 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: or North Carolina. I mean, you got states where it's 398 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: almost impossible for Republicans to win any seats at all. 399 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 2: So both sides have jury rigged the House such that 400 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: it's almost impossible for the party that is not in 401 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: power in those states to get very many seats at all. 402 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: So we only have twenty five or thirty seats that 403 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: are actually in play in a four hundred and thirty 404 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: five sea House of Representatives. That's the reality. I think 405 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: there's a good chance, given it's going to be two 406 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: twenty to two fifteen, that they will flip three seats 407 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: take back control of the House. You've got to do 408 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: everything in the first year. Everything. I want every Senator 409 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: sleeping in Washington, DC every night. I want every member 410 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: of the House of Representatives sleeping every night in Washington, 411 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: d C. You've got basically a year to get everything done. 412 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: And a big part of this buck is you have 413 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: to pardon I mean this clearly. I don't even want 414 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: anybody to misrepresent this. Every single January sixth defendant should 415 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: be pardoned on day one, every single one of them. 416 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: And this is important because they're going to say, what 417 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: about people who engaged in crimes of violence. They've been 418 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: over punished under DC law relative to what other violent 419 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: criminals are going to do, Wipe and clean. 420 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: If they were wearing BLM shirts and sang in America's 421 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: racist while they were punching the cops, MSNBC would have 422 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: been cheering for them. That's just the truth. We all 423 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: saw it. We saw it in twenty twenty. I witnessed this. 424 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: We witnessed this. It happened on my own block in 425 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: the city. I have not forgotten and I am not forgiving. 426 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: This needs to happen because there has been no accounting 427 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: for that disparity that occurring. People say, oh, it's stopping 428 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: the peaceful transfer. Oh you know, take a walk off. 429 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: It's over. 430 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: This is with buck Hunter Biden's pardon opened the door 431 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: to no, there's no counter argument anymore. Oh what about 432 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: January sixth, like Rachel Maddow, like falling down like the 433 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 2: wicked witch of the West when she gets water thrown 434 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: on her, Like they're all done, They're all done. Hunter 435 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Biden I think that's why they're so angry. Buck the Hunter, 436 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: Biden pardon, cut their legs out from underneath. 437 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: What's the arguments they're supposed to make? Now, where's this 438 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: sort of sanctimonious lib goes on TV. Look, it's about 439 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: our democracy, really, because I think it's about your scumbag 440 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: son raising tens of millions of dollars illegally, stashing it, 441 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: not paying taxes on it, money laundering it from China 442 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 3: and Barisma, which we have not forgotten about either, by 443 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: the way, and of course is covered by this part in. 444 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think we all know what was really 445 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: going on here, but also we're talking j six think for. 446 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: A second, Clay about what we have been shown through 447 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: actions over the last twelve months. Donald Trump should face 448 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: prison time thirty seven count felony conviction. He should face 449 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: prison time for writing that an NDA payment that was 450 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: legal was like attorney fee instead of NDA fee or 451 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: something on his and didn't file it in the election 452 00:24:54,320 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: committee paperwork, which was defrauding the and people, and therefore 453 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: it's a felony. 454 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: It's insane, it's insane. You can't even say with a 455 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: straight face. 456 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: That is conduct that Donald Trump should face the music 457 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: for a federal prosecutor or you know, a felony prosecution, 458 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: not federal state. But and then Hunter Biden should be 459 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: able to sell out his. 460 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Country with tens of millions. 461 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: Of dollars collected as a bagman for influence, pedaling illegally 462 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: by a firearm, illegally used drugs, illegally, pay for prostitutes, 463 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 3: and walk away scott free. That is the justice system 464 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: that these sanctimonious libs for years now. 465 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: Have been saying we stand in defense of and they 466 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: know Clay. 467 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: Unless you are a totally deluded lunatic, you see this 468 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: for what it is. 469 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: How about also a reassessment of Jan six eighty one 470 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: million votes. A lot of the people who showed up 471 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: on Jan. Six felt like Democrats cheated in the twenty 472 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: twenty election, maybe one hundred percent of them. Now that 473 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: we've had the twenty twenty four election and seven million 474 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: fewer votes for Kamala have come in the first time 475 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: since nineteen thirty two. This is the data that I 476 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: have seen and if the team can confirm at one 477 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: hundred percent, I've seen in a variety of different sources, 478 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: not one county flipped to Kamala. A lot of you 479 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 2: are skeptical in twenty twenty when the election results came in. 480 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: I get it, eighty one million out of nowhere for 481 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. But now that we have twenty twenty four 482 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: and we can consider the entire Trump era, we can 483 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: look at the twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty twenty 484 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: four vote totals as part of a larger mosaic. I 485 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: don't believe there's any way that Joe Biden legally got 486 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: eighty one million votes. 487 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: I just don't. 488 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 2: And some people are going to say, oh, my goodness, 489 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: you can't say my opinion is eighty one million. You 490 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: have to raise a real eyebrow when you look at 491 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four and smack dab in 492 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: the middle is twenty twenty. My point on that for 493 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: those January sixth defendants, I'm never going to defend anybody 494 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: for breaking the law because BLM. You could be upset 495 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: about what you believed was mistreatment of George Floyd or 496 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: whatever else, and that doesn't justify you breaking the law. 497 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: You could be upset about the twenty twenty election. It 498 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: doesn't justify you breaking the law, but I definitely think 499 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: a reassessment. 500 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 6: Now. 501 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: I think they're probably right about the eighty one million 502 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: not being cast legally. 503 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 504 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: Percentage of them, but the fact that Kamala is seven 505 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: million fewer votes, the fact that Trump went up two 506 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: and a half or three million votes, the Trump votes 507 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: look a lot more legit in the wake of twenty 508 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: twenty four. The twenty twenty Trump votes do than the 509 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Biden votes do. I mean, if we had 510 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: an honest media, a lot more people would be saying, hey, 511 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: let's just look at the data. Does this add up. 512 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I would pardon on day one every 513 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: single January sixth defendant if I were Donald Trump, and 514 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: I would advise him to do so as well. 515 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: I think that he will. And if I'm wrong on 516 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: this one, I'll come on air and eat humble pie. 517 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: And you know, I think Trump will. I mean when 518 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: I say will, maybe it's gonna be phase's individual cases, 519 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: but I think he's going to get there. I think 520 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: you're going to see almost all, if not all, January 521 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: six individuals pardoned or commuted, which I would also note 522 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: was another possibility for Hunter Biden. He didn't have to 523 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: pardon his son, right, he could have waited until well, 524 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: I guess it depends when the sentencing is. But theoretically right, 525 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: he could have commuted any sentence that he can. You 526 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: commute preemptively. I've never seen that. 527 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: It's a great point because they're trying to say, well, Trump, 528 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: this is the argument they're now left with. Trump pardoned 529 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: his his son in laws father, right, the Kushner father. 530 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: But he actually served all of his prison requirements. There's 531 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: a difference between pardoning someone after they've already served a punishment. 532 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: It basically just kind of cleans the deck, but you 533 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: actually did have to go and do some sort of penance. 534 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: Hunter didn't do anything right. Hunter has never had to 535 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: spend a night in a jail cell. Hunter has never 536 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: been handcuffed, to my knowledge ever in his life. 537 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: This is what I've said all along. 538 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: Guy's not going to spend a single day in prison, 539 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: a single day in jail guaranteed, and he has not. So, yeah, 540 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: he evaded a count. He evaded accountability entirely, one hundred 541 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: percent evasion of account unless you want to say. 542 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Oh, but his public reputation. 543 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: The guy's a crack addict public reputation, I mean talking 544 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: about you know, it's insane, all right. 545 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: I hope that some of those people who invested in 546 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: those paintings, remember the guy who gave Hunter like seven 547 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: million dollars. Mmm, I don't know that was a good investment. Buck, 548 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: I would be a little bit nervous. You might see 549 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: some of them on eBay for like ten bucks. 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Daniel Penny 594 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: for the incident on the subway where he stepped in 595 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: the crazy guy shouting He's gonna kill everybody in the train. 596 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Penny puts him in a headlock. 597 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: And then Jordan Neely dies at the scene. Penny says 598 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: he did not mean to compress his neck and did 599 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: not mean to use lethal fours. The City of New 600 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: York watching this very closely. We will bring you any developments, 601 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: any updates that we see or hear on that as 602 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: they come in the meantime. Also on the criminal justice front, 603 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: Cash Patel named as the likely next FBI director under Trump. 604 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: I say likely because there are a couple of things 605 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: that have to happen. One is you've got Christopher Ray, 606 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: who the Democrats like, so unfortunately, that's a huge strike 607 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: against him. And there are a lot of things that I 608 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: think you could say or strikes against him. I think, 609 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, was he was he the one 610 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: who said Antifa is an idea or something like that, 611 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: it's not an organization. I can't remember which FBI director 612 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: said that, but anyway, I think it was him. A 613 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: lot of strikes against him. The usage of the FBI 614 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: to terrorize pro life activists who didn't hurt anybody, but 615 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: you know, block the access, like stood in the way 616 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: or you know, sat in a hallway or something for 617 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: abortion clinics. 618 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: Things like that. 619 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: The FBI has been abused as a tool of pouls 620 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: on his watch, and he's got to go. Trump can fight, Yes, sir. 621 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: I actually want your expert analysis on this because I 622 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: meant to ask it yesterday. You worked in the CIA. 623 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: You know how big these bureaucracies are. How much can 624 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: the director or the leader of an FBI or a 625 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: CIA change the underlying dynamic at play in bureaucracies these big? 626 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: This big? 627 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: In other words, what is reasonable to expect based on 628 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: a new leader. 629 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: That's a great question, and that's something that I've been 630 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: thinking about a lot because of some of the mandates 631 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 3: that these incoming Trump cabinet officials have to really shake 632 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: things up. I mean, I think one of the people 633 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: who has the among the hardest jobs in the incoming 634 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: Trump administration would be Tulsea Gabbert at d and I, 635 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 3: because the entire Intel Complex apparatus is very very good 636 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: at doing what it is has always done and ignoring 637 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: whoever's in charge. Yeah, so I think at the FBI, 638 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: and I haven't worked at the FBI, so I'm just 639 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: speaking from colleagues and you know, friends of mine who 640 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: have been there for many years. I think at the FBI, 641 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: if you have a director, I think you can set 642 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 3: the tone and the culture and that that filters down 643 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: in substantial ways. But you have to be really clear 644 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: about it, and you have to be relentless, and if 645 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 3: you're taking on the system in some way, be ready 646 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: for a lot of slow roll. People always say, what 647 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 3: about the pushback or the blowback? It's not that so much, 648 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 3: it's they just don't do what you tell them to do, 649 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: and dare you to do something about it? And that's 650 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: very hard, right, if you know, when people defy you 651 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: in a bureaucracy, there can be consequences when people just say, yeah, 652 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm on it, I'm working on it, you know what 653 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying that that's the big challenge. So now Cash 654 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 3: is going to go in there. I think he's assuming 655 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: he gets in, which means he's got to get Republicans 656 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: in the Senate to go along with this. Remember we 657 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 3: got Collins Murkowski. There's some very shaky votes right out 658 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: of the gate for anybody who's taking on the system. 659 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: Clay and I both said Cash is the guy that 660 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 3: we think should have the job. So that's we're on record. 661 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: That was before Trump announced this, so that that obviously stands. Clay, 662 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: I think he's going to run into some some substantial 663 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: pushback from people who are institutionalists or people who are 664 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: very much believers in the system. And the thing that 665 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 3: Cash is going to have to do is show them, 666 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: assuming he gets in, show them as FBI director, the 667 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: real hard proof that exists of the kinds of politicization 668 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: and weaponization that happened. Now, remember he built his name 669 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: alongside Devin Newnest looking into a Russia collusion, so he 670 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 3: knows this stuff. It's not like he's coming in here. 671 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 3: I like Tulci a lot. I think she's a good person, 672 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: a good patriot and everything else. She does not know 673 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: the intel community. She's going to have a very hard 674 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 3: time in that job. It's not a knock on her. 675 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: It's just gonna be very tough. Cash knows where I 676 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: don't want to say where the bodies are buried, but 677 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, he knows where the skeletons are hidden. 678 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of the same thing. You know 679 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: what I mean. 680 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: My analysis, and I'm curious if you would sign on 681 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: to it is there are lots of good lower level 682 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 2: FBI guys and gals out there all over the country 683 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: that join the FBI because they want to catch bad guys. 684 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: And as you move up the food chain, the FBI, 685 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: like many other organizations, becomes constrained by the bureaucracy, and 686 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: there are lots of guys and gals in the middle 687 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: tier and upper management that basically consider the FBI to 688 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 2: be their career job and it doesn't matter who their 689 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 2: boss is. To your point, they can slow roll it. 690 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: Presidents only get four years. They got thirty and forty 691 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: year careers, and they are the impediment to actual justice 692 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: in the United States. It's not the seventy percent of 693 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: people that are going out there trying to catch bad 694 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: guys on a regular basis. It's the thirty percent in 695 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: management structure that is hard to get through. If you 696 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: are somebody who's taken over this organization. 697 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis is somebody who understands what it is to 698 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 3: go against the bureaucratic blob, in his case, standing against 699 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: the CDC during COVID and the madness of Fauciism and 700 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: all that, and also really just whipping Florida into shape. 701 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: I mean not just because I live here. This place. 702 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: Florida just kind of adds to its awesomeness every year now, 703 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 3: and it's because a lot of great people from all 704 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 3: over the country, particularly the Northeastern corridor, have moved to 705 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: Florida because they want more of what Florida has been offering. 706 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 3: So I'm just saying Ron knows results. He's gotten results 707 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: in his state, and he underderstands what cash Betel is 708 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: up against. And I wanted you to hear Governor DeSantis's 709 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: analysis of Cash Battel at FBI play fourteen. 710 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 9: Cash Pattel understands the problems with the FBI and he 711 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 9: is a reformer that will not be captured by the bureaucrats. 712 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 9: Contrast that to our current FBI director Christopher Ray. We 713 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 9: remember when he got appointed back in twenty seventeen, he 714 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 9: immediately became a company man and was captured by that institution. 715 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 9: He has not reformed it in any way, shape or form. 716 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 9: And so I actually think Cash has a lot of 717 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 9: very significant experience that's important here, but put that aside. 718 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 9: You can be the smartest guy in the world. You 719 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 9: can have all this experience, if you don't understand that 720 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 9: the institution needs to be reformed. If you get captured, 721 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 9: then you're done. You're not going to be effective. 722 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the whole game, right now, That's the 723 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: whole situation. 724 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: And this is why I would just reiterate, and I'm 725 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: going to keep slamming it. And I know you are. 726 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: You got to move fast and break things. And this 727 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: is where I worry a little bit. If you ask me, Okay, Clay, 728 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: what do you think about Elon and Vivek and their 729 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: attempt to make government more efficient? We all need that 730 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: to happen. My concern is, I so Elon is the 731 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: best to ever create rockets to go to space. He 732 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: is the best to ever reconsider how to make a 733 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 2: vehicle propel itself right. He replaced the combustion engine. He 734 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: has done two things already in his life that people 735 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: would have said to him, you are crazy if you're 736 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: trying to do it. My concern is, when you're an executive, 737 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: you can break things and move fast. 738 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: That's why I liked. 739 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: Running my own media company, not because I made every 740 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: decision perfectly, but because sometimes even making the wrong decision 741 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: is better than inertia. It's so I hate meetings. I 742 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: hate meetings in government and big business. All you do 743 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: is sit in meetings all day and talk about ideas 744 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 2: of things you might do instead of actually doing them. 745 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: My concern buck is that Elon is just going to 746 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: get impatient, and he's going to say this is so 747 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: inefficient I can do I can make things happen quicker 748 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: in the private sector, and he's just going to get 749 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: burned out. 750 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's why he's. 751 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 2: Trying to get so many people in positions and advocating 752 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 2: for people who will move fast and break things. Because 753 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: that's better than just sitting still. 754 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 3: I feel like Elon has signed up to be he 755 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 3: thinks the personal trainer for somebody who needs to lose 756 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: you know, twenty or thirty pounds, and the client's going 757 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 3: to show up on the first day and the client 758 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 3: where it weighs like twelve hundred pounds. 759 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: Like, I think he has no. 760 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 3: Idea how bad scope and slovenly, you know, nature of 761 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: the federal governments. I mean I shouldn't say no idea. 762 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 3: He obviously he's taking the song because he understands. But 763 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 3: I mean, once you get in and you start to 764 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 3: look under the hood, it's going to get really ugly 765 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 3: really fast. So I do have I have that concern 766 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 3: about Elon, and I think with cash at at FBI, 767 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: it's critical that he moves very quickly because this is 768 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: all going to get bogged down in politics really fast, 769 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: meaning you know, members of Congress are going to start 770 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: to lose their sense of urgency, you know, sense of urgency. 771 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: Kerry and I went to a very you know, it 772 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: was kind of a holiday treat for us. Went to 773 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: a very nice restaurant, a fancy place in New York, 774 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: and we actually got a tour of the kitchen, and 775 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: they said, yeah, it was per se. 776 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: I've never been before, it is. 777 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: Are they fans of the show? Why did you get 778 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: the tour of the kitchen. That's a nice additional benefit. 779 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 3: Honestly, because my wife is pretty and very nice. 780 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: I think that was why. 781 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 2: By the way, be it pretty and very nice can 782 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 2: get a woman very far. That's a good, very good combination. 783 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: I think they're like, she's pretty and she's very polite 784 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: and friendly to all the staff, so they gave us. 785 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: I bring it up though, because in this kitchen. This 786 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: is a three Michelin star restaurant, so there's only two 787 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 3: of them in New York City. And look, I've you know, 788 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 3: I've never been before. We'd always wanted to go, we'd 789 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: never been to get a reservation. It's kind of a 790 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 3: it's a special occasion place. People are there for their birthdays, 791 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: people are there for anniversaries, right, and that's really the 792 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 3: And they had one plaque on the wall, just randomly, 793 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 3: one thing sense of urgency, and that really stuck out 794 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: in my mind because that is apt to operate at 795 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 3: that level. I know you're saying, oh, it's like a 796 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 3: kitchen whenever you're work in a kitchen. No, it can 797 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 3: either be a Swiss watch or it can be total chaos. Right, 798 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 3: this place was a Swiss watch at the highest level. 799 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: This place was absolute precision, no surprise, one of those 800 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 3: famous restaurants in the world, Thomas Keller place. 801 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: Sense of urgency. 802 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: That is what should be in every government office, everywhere 803 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: in the country, for whatever the mission is, whether you're 804 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 3: a Department of agriculture, and if it doesn't make sense 805 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 3: to you, why you should have a sense of urgency. 806 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 3: You either shouldn't be working there or the place shouldn't exist, 807 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And that is what they're 808 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 3: going to be fighting in the whole federal bureaucracy. 809 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's my thing in general with what I'm 810 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: afraid Elon is going to run into is, you know, 811 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 2: move fast and break things. Is the dynamic of many 812 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 2: of you out there that are entrepreneurs. Try something, it 813 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: might work. If it doesn't, you can pivot and try 814 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: something else. That is the entire concept, and it's the 815 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: antithesis of everything that our government has come to represent. 816 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 2: And so that's my concern with Cash, It's my concern 817 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: with anybody taking over these agencies. Even if you have 818 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: the right ideas, there is and this is one worse 819 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: Trump got to completely right, there is a swamp that 820 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 2: doesn't really want to do anything, at least in business. 821 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: In theory, the goal is to make a profit. 822 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the. 823 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: Goal is of most bit of most of our government 824 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: other than for those people to have jobs. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 885 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 886 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 2: The continued fallout of the Joe Biden decision to part 887 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 2: in Hunter will take some of your calls. We also 888 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: should mention and we have that right now, the jury 889 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: is deliberating in the Daniel Penny case in New York 890 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: City that so many of you certainly listening to us 891 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 2: on WR in the New York City area, have been 892 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 2: following closely. But also I feel this is a case 893 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: the subway marauding individual that Daniel Penny put into a 894 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: choke hold that died, that many of you out there 895 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 2: have been following as sort of a idea of what 896 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 2: is actually permissible inside of a Democrat city. Oh, you 897 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 2: can decide that you're going to commit any crime of 898 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 2: violence that you want, but if anyone tries to step 899 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 2: forward as a civilian and offer protection, oh, those are 900 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: the people that we are going to decide to prosecute 901 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,720 Speaker 2: to the fullest extent of the law. In Alvin Braggs, 902 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 2: New York, in LA in so many different blue cities 903 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 2: inside of blue states. That is the reality, and so 904 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 2: we will keep you updated. But certainly we believe Daniel 905 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 2: Penny should be based on the evidence that I have seen, 906 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen, Buck be found not guilty of 907 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: these charges that were brought against him. And we will 908 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 2: see what a New York City jury, to be fair, 909 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 2: is not the jury that I would want to be 910 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 2: judged by in any case, what a New York City 911 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 2: jury does big picture. One of the questions we've been 912 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: talking about since Trump won the popular vote and romp 913 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: to three hundred and twelve electoral College votes, since Republicans 914 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 2: won the Senate and the House, is how would Democrats 915 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 2: handle the red tsunami sweeping over them. I mentioned it 916 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: is true that Kamala Harris became the first president presidential candidate. 917 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: This is nineteen thirty two not to flip a single county. 918 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: Think about how crazy that is. She got worse in 919 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 2: all fifty states, but there's not even a county that 920 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: was a red voting county in twenty twenty that flipped 921 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: to blue in twenty twenty four. 922 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: Unprecedented. How would Democrats respond? 923 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 2: Would they rationally look in the mirror and say, hey, 924 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 2: we got our ass kicked because we had a poor 925 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: candidate who ran on issues by and large that the 926 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: American public did not feel addressed the vast majority of 927 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: the challenges that they were facing. Or would they decide 928 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 2: that they weren't left wing enough and that the real 929 00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 2: reason was racism, sexism, identity politics working against them, And 930 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 2: would they in any way try to embrace the truth 931 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: or would they continue to spread lies? So far buck 932 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 2: the spread lies. Choice has won. CNN and MSNBC's ratings 933 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 2: are tanking, and they're now defending the decision. On CNN, 934 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 2: at least one woman is for Hunter Biden to have 935 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: been pardoned because Trump is going to bring firing squads 936 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: for his political enemies. This is legitimately what was said 937 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 2: on CNN last night. 938 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: Listen. Wasn't it a lie? 939 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 10: I mean, you can defend it, but wasn't it a 940 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 10: lie that he was not going to pardon it? 941 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 6: No. 942 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 10: I believe the circumstances have changed. I think that we 943 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 10: now have a president coming into office who's talking about 944 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 10: firing squads, who's talking about running people around the country 945 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 10: and making sure that everyone who's his enemy is going 946 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 10: to be punished and Hunter Biden lied about his drug 947 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 10: use on a government for him when he was buying 948 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 10: a gun, and he failed to file and pay taxes 949 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 10: when he was a drug addict. He paid back those 950 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 10: taxes with interest. Johnald Trump himself was indicted for seventeen 951 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 10: counts of criminal tax fraud, more than Hunters. And he's 952 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 10: going to be the president of the UNIDOS seven. 953 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So well, I want to go back to the 954 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 2: firing squad line. Many of you will remember, I would 955 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 2: say this was peaud dishonesty. Buck In the frenzy of 956 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 2: the final few days of the campaign, Liz Cheney herself 957 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 2: tried to spread the argument that Trump was saying he 958 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: was going to put her in front of a firing squad. Actually, 959 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 2: for anyone who listened to that, Trump said that there 960 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: are a lot of chickenhawks, that is, people who want 961 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 2: to have your sons and daughters put in mortal peril 962 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: and wars, that they themselves would not be willing to fight, 963 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 2: and that they themselves would not be willing to put 964 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 2: their own families forward to fight. It's a very common 965 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: argument in favor of peace and against war. And they 966 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: tried to argue that Liz Cheney was being threatened with 967 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: a firing squad by Donald Trump, when it was actually 968 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: the exact opposite. He didn't want anybody to be facing 969 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 2: weapons of war. He wants peace. And so the fact 970 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: that they are continuing to spread this and let me 971 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 2: just say, also on CNN, which claims to care so 972 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 2: much about fact checking, why would Abby Phillip allow that 973 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 2: comment to be made and not immediately step in and say, actually, 974 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: that's untrue. I think again, in the larger accounting buck, 975 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 2: what we have seen is MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, 976 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 2: Washington Post, ABCNBCCBS, all of these legacy media outlets. 977 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: Their legitimacy has collapsed. 978 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 2: And in the same way that we just played that 979 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 2: audio of Kashptel being attacked as if he is the 980 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 2: sort of the embodiment of MAGA. Actually, when you get 981 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 2: attacked by these people, it helps now because everyone has 982 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: seen that they are so transparently dishonest. 983 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 3: It makes me think, who is the most effective person 984 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 3: in public life right now making the case against Trump 985 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 3: and against trump Ism. If we had to pull together 986 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 3: an all star team such as it is, okay you 987 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 3: could say, don't call them all stars. But if you 988 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 3: asked me to put together the Communist Avengers, the anti 989 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 3: Trump resistance superstars, I don't know who would. 990 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: Be on that list. 991 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 3: Politicians or pundits right now because they've been so humiliated 992 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: by the events of the last year. Humiliated by the 993 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 3: prosecutions of Donald Trump that went nowhere, in fact, probably 994 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 3: elevated him to untouchable heights in the primary, the Republican primary, 995 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 3: and then galvanized the Republican Party behind him like never before. 996 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 3: You know, they were humiliated with that, they were humiliated 997 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 3: by the Joe Biden dementia issue. Then by pretending that 998 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris wasn't the worst tendidate we've ever seen. I've 999 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 3: never seen anything like this before in my life, right, 1000 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 3: I don't think any of us have where after this election. 1001 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 3: Now they're trying to say, notice, how we're not saying 1002 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 3: the election stolen? Yes, because everybody knows you got your 1003 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 3: asses kicked, like it's not even a question, it's not 1004 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 3: even close. So when you add all this together, who 1005 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 3: can we look to right now? 1006 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: And the only people coming. 1007 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 3: Forward are the crazies. I've never heard of this woman before. 1008 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, she looks you just look at her eyes. 1009 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 3: She looks like a wacko and she's talking about firing squads. 1010 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane. 1011 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 3: This is the kind of stuff that you should say 1012 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,439 Speaker 3: and people should have to do like a wellness check 1013 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 3: on you. 1014 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 1: It makes no sense whatsoever. 1015 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 3: And I think that the Democrat Party is just licking 1016 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 3: their wounds in a way that, like I said, we've 1017 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 3: never seen before. 1018 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: And who's even the I watched Morning Joe this morning. 1019 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: It's it's sad. It's sad. They're like cash Buttelo is 1020 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: gonna be so mean to us. Yes, that's the point. 1021 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 2: I also think what you have seen as these historic 1022 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: legacy media organizations have their influence collapse around them, you're 1023 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 2: also seeing how few people are actually will to do 1024 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 2: the barest amount of homework to go on television. A 1025 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 2: lot of people don't go to the primary sources. They 1026 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: comment on the commentary. This is really important. I remember 1027 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 2: I had a law professor and he was talking about contracts, 1028 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: and he said, you know what the three most important 1029 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: things are when you get involved in. 1030 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 3: The contract, contract to contract. I know this story. I 1031 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: like this one. 1032 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 2: It's exactly right. The contract to contract to contract. I 1033 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: think about that all the time. Whenever I'm trying to 1034 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 2: build whatever opinions I have, I want to go to 1035 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 2: the primary sources. I don't want to hear someone reacting 1036 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 2: to a primary source and then react to them. I 1037 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: want to at least have seen the primary source myself and. 1038 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: What you see. 1039 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of these people are getting 1040 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: exposed on social media now because X is more of 1041 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 2: a fair forum. Is many of these people like that 1042 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 2: woman saying, oh, he wants to bring firing squads. Did 1043 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 2: she actually even take the time to watch the video 1044 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,959 Speaker 2: so that she could see for herself. I think many 1045 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 2: of these people buck because they controlled the narrative wheels, 1046 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 2: the very fine people hoax which they were able to 1047 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 2: propagate to define Trump as a racist, white supremacist, neo Nazi. 1048 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: They got cocky because they controlled all the mechanisms of 1049 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 2: distribution in a top down way, and if somebody came 1050 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 2: on and read off a teleprompter, oh, Trump said that 1051 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 2: neo Nazis are very fine people. They were allowed to 1052 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 2: set the parameters of debate, And now suddenly many of 1053 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 2: you and some of us are able to look at 1054 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: that and say, wait a minute, you're distorting the reality 1055 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 2: in order to create your own narrative, and that is 1056 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 2: collapsing around them. They don't have that ability anymore. 1057 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 3: I also think the same way that college Republicans are 1058 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 3: so many of them. I mean I remember back in 1059 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 3: the day when I was a college Republican. So many 1060 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 3: of them are ready to go on Fox News by 1061 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 3: like freshman year at college, sophomore year at college, because 1062 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 3: they've been fighting against the tide ideologically for years at 1063 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 3: that point, and that makes them better by the time 1064 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 3: they graduate. Certainly, people who have been open conservatives in college, 1065 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 3: assuming they don't go to like you know, the rare 1066 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 3: sane conservative colleges that are out there, it's it's indicative, 1067 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 3: I think clay of people who have had to fight 1068 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 3: for their ideas and are adept at doing so. I 1069 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 3: think a similar reality has played out in the media. 1070 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 3: I think that conservative media because we've been and this 1071 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 3: is a little sounds a little self congratulatory, but I 1072 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 3: think it's the truth. You look at what our team 1073 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 3: has had to do with people on our side have 1074 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 3: had to put up with, particularly the last ten years 1075 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 3: or so, with the social media stuff and the you know, 1076 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: the absolute all in to destroy Trump from Washington Post, 1077 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: the New York Times. We've been having to fight, and 1078 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 3: we're kind of like seasoned veterans of media awards at 1079 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 3: this point. These people you see going on the cable 1080 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 3: news channels like MSNBCC at N and the people from 1081 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 3: the New York Times go on them and from the 1082 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 3: Washington Post, and they kind of so called elite Democrat media, 1083 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 3: they're just not very good at this. Well, just can't 1084 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 3: make the argument, you know what I'm saying. Like they're 1085 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 3: like weeken flabby, and they're going up against a bunch 1086 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 3: of conservative chads, you know, guys who have been bench 1087 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 3: pressing all day. 1088 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean at his most basic level. 1089 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 2: My oldest son is in high school debate and you 1090 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 2: did debate. 1091 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: I did not. 1092 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 2: But you can't win an argument unless you can make 1093 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: the other side's argument better than the other side can. 1094 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 2: And I thought you saw this really distilled. Certainly you 1095 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 2: see it every night with Scott Jennings going up against 1096 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 2: these guys. But I also think Scott Jennings is, by 1097 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 2: the way, just smarter than a lot of the people 1098 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: he's going up Again, I don't think Gavin Newsom is 1099 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: a moron. He got exposed by Ron DeSantis and the 1100 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Sean Hannity debate. I thought that distinctly crystallized the difference. 1101 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,959 Speaker 2: I also thought you saw it with Tim Walls and 1102 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 2: with JD. 1103 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Vance. 1104 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Jade Vance wiped the floor with Tim Walls, just like 1105 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Ron De Santis wiped the floor with Gavin Newsom. 1106 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: It's because Newsome. 1107 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 2: And Walls don't really know the arguments of Vance and DeSantis. 1108 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 2: They don't live in a world where they see those arguments. 1109 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: And as a result, you're faster and quicker on your feet, 1110 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 2: and to your point, from a boxing perspective, you've bit 1111 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 2: in the ring and taken some punches, and so you 1112 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 2: don't have a glass jaw, and you're prepared for the 1113 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 2: counter punch. And a lot of these liberal outlets they 1114 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 2: just throw punches and they never have to worry about 1115 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: somebody else coming back the other way, good boxers think 1116 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 2: as much or more of about the CounterPunch then they 1117 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 2: do the punch, because you can take a big swing, 1118 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 2: but buddy, if you leave yourself open, the CounterPunch can 1119 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 2: knock you out. And so many leftists don't ever have 1120 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 2: to worry about the CounterPunch because they convince themselves that 1121 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: they're so right that they think of themselves as these 1122 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 2: battlers of democratic justice, and the reality is they're getting 1123 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 2: wrecked because they don't know what they're fighting against. 1124 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 3: That's totally what I'm what I'm seeing here and laying out, 1125 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 3: and it's why I think it has actually been to 1126 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 3: the detriment of libs like you and I will go anyway, 1127 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 3: Like if you got invited to the view tomorrow, by 1128 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 3: the way, I would have to I don't know, I'd 1129 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 3: have to like get a guest host because I'd have 1130 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 3: to watch live in the audience between. 1131 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 2: I would be there to your point they invited me, 1132 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 2: I would be there with bells on, ready to roll. 1133 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1134 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 3: I did this on Bill Maher's show. Yeah, you know, 1135 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 3: you go into places. Our side is used to making 1136 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 3: the case not only to opposition, but oftentimes in an 1137 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 3: ambush situation. Right, So we have become art and I 1138 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 3: don't just mean me and Clay. You know, obviously we're 1139 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 3: in the house that Rush built. Russia did this for 1140 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 3: so many years and built this incredible movement. But I'm 1141 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 3: talking about our contemporaries right now as well, a lot 1142 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 3: of them. I mean, they're I could rattle off ten 1143 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 3: conservative media people off the top of my head that 1144 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 3: are super smart and squared and more than ten, by 1145 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 3: the way. But I'm saying I could fill out a 1146 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 3: roster of people who can make all the arguments, who 1147 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 3: can debate, who are quick on their feet. 1148 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: The Libs are insane. 1149 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 3: I mean, they're just talking nonsense all the time. 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