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We are joined tonight by a 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: very special guest, Claiar Dalone, legitimate rockstar slash basketball writer, 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: which is like the weirdest combination of things to. 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 5: Do ever, Claire. You can listen to Claire. 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: At Tiny Deaths on all streaming services, and she's also 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: NBA writer for The Guardian. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 5: Claire, thank you so much for hopping on with us. 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 6: We appreciate. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 7: Oh my god, thank you so much for having me. 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 7: I'm so excited, especially once I found out that this 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 7: was an official Rudy Gobert roast. 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 8: I was like, I'm so ready born, ready. 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: The stars. 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: Uh, that's Dragonfly Jones, that's the Jethro Jenkins. I'm Guardy 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: b reproduced as always by Jackson. But let's just jump 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: into it. I want to start with the game, and 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: the game is this. Who hates Rudy Gobert the most 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: of the four of us? 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: I don't. 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if I necessarily hate the guy. 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 8: I don't feel like the word I do. 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: Hate. 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 6: It's okay to hate because I hate this life. We 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 6: can hate them. 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Guys, But yeah, I mean, I'm not someone who I'm 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: above hating people. 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: I just don't hate Rudy. 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I do think that the fraud allegations have some merit 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: to them. 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: Let's let's put it that way. 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 8: Here's what I would say. 61 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 7: What we've learned in the last few weeks in the 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 7: discourse is that if you're gonna say you hate someone, 63 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 7: you better be ready to fucking hate them with your 64 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 7: whole chest, and you better be ready to release like 65 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 7: seven different songs over the course of three weeks about 66 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 7: how much you hate them. And I'm just not ready 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 7: to sit in front of the congregation today and say 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 7: that I hate capital h hate Rudy Gobert, ily dislike him. Yes, 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 7: do I think that he is not deserving of all 70 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 7: of his deepoys? 71 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 8: Also, yes, do. 72 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: You Okay, that's a bigger indictment on him than actually 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: hating him. Like, bro, I'm you don't you know, you 74 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: don't strike anything in me enough to hate you, you 75 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You're just there and you're just 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: kind of annoying and you know you're kind of frustrating it. 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: But you don't strike any any deep emotion at me. 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Like That's how I feel about Rude. 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 7: It's like the Don Draper meme, like the like I 80 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 7: feel sorry for you, Like I don't think about you 81 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 7: at all. 82 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: Exactly that. 83 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: Rudy Gobert seventy two first place votes. Defensive Player of 84 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: the Year, Victor webbin Yama nineteen first place votes, Bam three, 85 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: Anthony Davis four, Rudy go Bear seventy two first place 86 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: Deep is it me? Or was clearly trying to drink 87 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: his bone marrow on national TV. 88 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 7: To trying actively drinking. Yeah, in the mug, Rudy Gobar 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 7: bone broth in this bitch. He was like, this is 90 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 7: my lunch. 91 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy, But I gonna say we do 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: have to kind of shield Go Bear something that's playing 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: the world. 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 6: No, we don't. We've seen him get cooked in playoffs. 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: Before every playoff he gets exposed. 96 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 9: And I don't really hate him either, Like I don't, 97 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 9: there's very it's it's really hard for me to hate 98 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 9: anybody in this world. But like, I don't need a 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 9: person that can't play basketball, who's in the NBA before 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 9: because of their height, to get rewarded for that. 101 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 8: That's a little far. 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 7: I don't think I would say he can't play basketball, 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 7: like that's a step far even for me. 104 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 8: Someone who's like an avowed. 105 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: Rudy got he can't play at all, Like we're in 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: the group chat. 107 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 5: Like you're you're even. 108 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: And he was efficient because he knows enough to not 109 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: like to not run off his from but he has 110 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: turnovers where he like he's got a six foot five 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 4: defender on him and he brings the ball down below 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: his waist, where you're like, this is like first year shiit. 113 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 7: Like eleven tonight. I mean he was. I don't take 114 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 7: any second leading scorer on the timber. I'm just like he. 115 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 8: I think he There's two things that are true to me. 116 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 7: One, I don't think anybody in the world can stop 117 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 7: Nikolijokic when he wants to win a basketball game, when 118 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 7: he's like put all of his force and energy into 119 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 7: winning a basketball game, I think he's literally unbeatable. Right now, 120 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 7: I think they're going to repeat spoiler alert. But I 121 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 7: also think that Rudy Gobert would not be my choice 122 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 7: to guard him, Like he wouldn't even be you know, 123 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 7: top five probably choices. 124 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 8: So those are. 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: Both I mean, but you know, I person like eighty 126 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: is the best defended league and hell, he once against 127 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: a D two, Like you know what I mean, The 128 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: dude is inevitable. He's unstoppable, And like I said, I 129 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: feel like we have to shoot Gobert a little bit 130 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: of bail here because I think that you can't stop Yokis. 131 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: You can only hope to slow him down, right, And 132 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: Gobert has not been slowing Yokis down this series at all, 133 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean, I think that's a valid 134 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: criticism here. 135 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 6: But we've seen him. 136 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Win Defensive Player of the Year and get cooked by 137 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: not the MVP like every playoffs. It seems like he's 138 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: proven to be the weak link on the defensive end, 139 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: and we've seen like we're talking about, gets part of 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, pick and rolls and it'll be on an 141 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: island with the guard and that's hard for a seven 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: foot guy, right. But we're seeing him get his you know, 143 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: get cooked at his home where he's supposed to be 144 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: the most effective, get fucking smacked, you know what I mean. 145 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 6: And I don't even I don't expect you to stop. 146 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, The MVP, the best player 147 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: in the world, I don't expect that. 148 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: But slow down. Somewhat he looked like food. They were 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 6: making fun of fun of him, you know. 150 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: On bro. 151 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 6: He was like, dude, like. 152 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: That's not it, And that's what I'm saying, Like, bro, 153 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: like for any player to lick their lips when they 154 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: see you in the paint, you're how are you the 155 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: defensive player to year facts? 156 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And 157 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 6: then like they can get eight to eleven to night. 158 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: But like we see him on the offensive end, the 159 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: dude is like, has no feel for the game. If 160 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: he was not seven, he needs every fucking inch to 161 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: be to be a basketball player. 162 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 6: If he was fucking six to eleven, he wouldn't be 163 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 6: in the NBA. He'd be overseas, Like I. 164 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 7: Think the biggest indictment on Rudy is like he's consistently 165 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 7: ranked in those player strap poles as the number one 166 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 7: most overrated player in the NBA, like year over year, 167 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 7: it just keeps happening. And I'm like, if anybody knows basketball, 168 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 7: it's NBA players, Like they know who. 169 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 8: They respect them. 170 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: They all feel that way, and. 171 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 7: They all feel that way like unanimously, And it's not 172 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 7: just I don't think it's xenophobia. I genuinely think that 173 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 7: these guys are like, you can't touch me, Like I 174 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 7: don't know if anybody in the league is scared of 175 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 7: Rudy Gobert. 176 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 5: No with you. 177 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: And I think the issue with it is like you 178 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: guys mentioned like we've seen him get cooked by wings 179 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: where they're looking for the switch and they know he 180 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: can't play out to the perimeter. But then we've also 181 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: seen that like a lot of the best centers in 182 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: the league play better when they play against him. So 183 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: what is the specialty is help side blocks because of 184 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: the wingspan? 185 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 186 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: Like, I just don't understand. And again you talk about 187 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: Wemby had like double every stat that he had I 188 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: know the Spurs suck, but like. 189 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: What would they what would they have done worse against 190 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: the I think. 191 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 7: Rudy is an exemplary regular season player. I think that 192 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 7: you can't really deny that in the regular season he 193 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 7: elevates his team's defense. He does you know, get his numbers, 194 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 7: get his stats, what have you. On the defensive end, 195 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 7: I have yet to see a year where Rudy Gobert 196 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: puts any kind of fear in anyone past April period. 197 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 7: And if you're if I'm gonna respect somebody on like 198 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 7: a you've won Defensive Player of the Year, you know, 199 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 7: among the highest echelon of players who have won that 200 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 7: number of that, or you have to scare me April 201 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 7: and beyond period. Like at a certain point, the jig 202 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 7: is up, you know what I'm saying. 203 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: Like, I think the voters have made it very clear 204 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: that they are just going to consider, as in Rudy's case, 205 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, They're just going to consider defensive player 206 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: the year regular season awar. I mean, we saw that 207 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: man get cooked by fucking Reggie Jackson and Terrence man 208 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: Bro and he's won like two Defensive Player of the 209 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: Year since then. You know what, I'm saying, we saw 210 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: the Jazz get their season ended by those two dudes 211 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: playing tech and tag on that guy just hunting for 212 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: the switch, and he still has one Defensive Player of 213 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: the Awards at that So I think people are voters 214 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: are for sure just like Bro, we're just going to 215 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: keep it a regular season, a war. Where do you 216 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: think there's merit to that? You know, that's a whole 217 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: other discussion, but I mean, it's it's it is a 218 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: very odd thing about how he just goes into the 219 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: postseason and he looks like food And like you said, Claire, 220 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: he for sure elevates defenses during the regular season, but 221 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: it does not seem to translate in the postseason. 222 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 7: But justice for Anthony Davis because if we're talking about 223 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 7: the regular season, like to me, nobody has and I've 224 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 7: talked about this ad nauseum, so like, forgive me for 225 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 7: going off, but like, nobody has a heavier defensive and 226 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: offensive load on any given team every single night than 227 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 7: Anthony Davis. And because you know, we're judging people on 228 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 7: like Minnesotaver's the number one defense Lakers or you know, 229 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 7: bottom of the league and defense for the second half 230 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 7: of the year, like the rest of the team is 231 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 7: kind of dragging him down in that sense. But like 232 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 7: if you ask, like you know an NBA player, like 233 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 7: who they'd rather get into the post against Rudy Gobert 234 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 7: or Anthony Davis, Like, I don't think it's even an argument. 235 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: That's a ninety five percent Go Bear. I feel like, right, 236 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: I mean, that's it. Like, do y'all get the sense 237 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: because it feels a little. It feels a little like 238 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: jo Kids takes something about it personally. I don't know 239 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: if it's that he does not like Rudy Gobert personally. 240 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the because he's got the DPOY, 241 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: it's just how he's psyching himself up. But it looked 242 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: like he enjoys cooking Gobert more than he enjoys getting 243 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: a drop step around Nasriy, Like do you feel that? 244 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: Like it looks to me like he's really having fun 245 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: picking apart Rudy Gobert. 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: On national team. I mean, I feel like we have 247 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: it on record. 248 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: There is footage of Jamal Murray telling that story when 249 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: when when Yok was cooking Go Beart and Go Bear 250 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: got a bucket of talk shit and Nicholas said, my friend, 251 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I have forty seven, right, Like, I I think he 252 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't need you know, we talk about how we 253 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: can't necessarily hate Rudy. I don't see Nikola as a 254 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: dude who hates anyone, right, Like he's you do need 255 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: to kill guy? 256 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 8: He cares enough. 257 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 258 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: He's a very easy but I think he for sure, 259 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: you know, has a you know, get a load of 260 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: this fucking guy when he goes up against. 261 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 7: Rudy, and accurate, it's the get aload of this fucking guy. 262 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 7: It's not I hate you, it's like, can you believe 263 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 7: this guy I thinks he can guard me? 264 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 8: Like I roll, yeah, yeah. 265 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's that he hates him or 266 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 7: like enjoys going up against him, or like has a 267 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 7: personal vendetta as much as he's just like path of 268 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 7: least resistance, Like this guy can't stop me. 269 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 8: Guy can't stop me. I'm gonna go out him every time. 270 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: Right that being said, let's talk about Jokic did something 271 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: tonight forty points I think it was was a forty 272 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: points tennis zero turnovers. Chris Paul is the only other 273 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: player to have done that in the playoffs, and he 274 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: did it one time at the Cup tonight too, and 275 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: I thought we've seen some incredible games from Yokich. I 276 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: thought this was right up there as, if not the best, 277 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: among the very best, because you just felt the walk 278 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: down in the third quarter like a four hundred meter 279 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 4: race of like, Nope. 280 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: We're gonna run it through me. 281 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: Every possession, I'm gonna score or it's gonna be a 282 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: layup or dunk open for a teammate every possession. 283 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: What can we say about this dude that we that 284 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 5: we haven't said, Claire. 285 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm looking at his box score right now, 286 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 7: like fifteen for twenty two, sixty eight percent from the field. 287 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 7: I think it's the efficiency too, It's like the ease 288 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 7: with which he's doing it. I mean, we've seen guys 289 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 7: get it out the mud. We've seen Anthony Edwards get 290 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 7: it out the mud in this series, and he looked 291 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 7: like a superhero, but he also looked like he was 292 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 7: exerting every ounce of energy and willpower that he possibly 293 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 7: had to do that like, and it like a Nikola 294 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 7: Jokic forty point game looks so different than a forty 295 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 7: point game from really anybody else in the league. He 296 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 7: just makes it look so easy. He makes it look 297 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 7: so effortless. It's like another day hitt the office, you know, 298 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 7: and he you can watch. It's so fascinating. It's like, 299 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 7: really it's like some beautiful mind shit. Like watching him 300 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 7: pick apart the game. You know, he's like it took him, 301 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 7: you know, a game or two. You know, took him 302 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 7: two games, I guess against these Timberwolves. Like I feel 303 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 7: like the first game it wasn't really him like picking 304 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 7: them apart. It was more just like they didn't really 305 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 7: come ready. I feel like the Nuggets phoned in the 306 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 7: first five games with their postseason, or I mean first 307 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 7: six games of their postseason, and then game two, I 308 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 7: think that they got sucker punched. And then I think 309 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 7: Joki is smart enough to be like, Okay, I know 310 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 7: we're not going to win this one because we got 311 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 7: punched in the face. So let me like observe, let 312 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 7: me learn, and let me like upload this to my 313 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 7: supercomputer brain for the rest of the series. But it's 314 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 7: been so fascinating to watch him just like figure out 315 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 7: exactly what it is they do and just pick it 316 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 7: apart with such precision and efficacy, and to me, I was. 317 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 7: I compared him, I think in a tweet to like 318 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 7: watching a lion and a hunt. It's like he's so 319 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 7: calm and collected and he's just watching his prey and 320 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 7: like watching like how they want to move and what 321 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 7: they want to do, and then he just pounces, like 322 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 7: when you just when you think you're comfy, when you 323 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 7: think you're up to zero, you know, like I doubted 324 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 7: Denver in this series. The dumbest fucking call I've ever 325 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 7: made in my life. I thought Minnesota was gonna win 326 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 7: the series after going up to nothing. 327 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 6: But I mean, I think he's world. Did you feel me? Like, yeah, yeah, 328 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: we're all dumb, for sure, We're all dumb. 329 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 8: Like why do we ever doubt this guy? 330 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 7: This is one of the I think he's going to 331 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 7: go down as you know, one of the greatest to 332 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 7: ever play the game. And like it's to me, it's 333 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 7: the like the watching his mind work is so fast 334 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 7: to me because he's really sort of just like hacked 335 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 7: into the mainframe of basketball in a way that's really 336 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 7: fascinating to watch. 337 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible basketball mine. 338 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: And going back to like what you said, like the 339 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: first seven games of this postseason for the Nuggets. 340 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: It was like, hey, they look pretty vulnerable. 341 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, but you know, after seeing the 342 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: performance last two games, Bro, they weren't vulnerable. 343 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: They were just bored. 344 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Now they're locked in, and now you know that back 345 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: to back is inevitable. It looks like to me, like 346 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be so wild to me because I 347 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: do think that they're going to end this and six. 348 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: So Minnesota is going to start their postseason winn is 349 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: six straight and losing four straight to end it. 350 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: That is wild, bro. 351 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: But and so I know Claire has roots in Minnesota, 352 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: so I wanted to bring that up because we mentioned 353 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: that Minnesota, the whole state is haunted in sports on 354 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: the last podcast, and my friend who's from Minnesota, texted me, 355 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: you put all the stats together. I didn't realize how 356 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: dramatic it was. In the last thirty three years, not 357 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: one trip to the finals in any of the four 358 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: major sports, even though they have all four major sports, 359 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: not one trip to the finals. 360 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 8: Except for the Links. Put some respect on the Links, yes, yes, but. 361 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: Of the of the of this, of the curse sports, 362 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: Like whenever people do that, I always say women's sports 363 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: aren't cursed, like. 364 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 8: The men are letting down the people of Minnesota one. 365 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: Hundred one hundred percent. 366 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: But like, and then on top of that, there the 367 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: whole state is crazy about hockey, and their hockey team 368 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: moved to Texas and won a championship, which would be 369 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: like a Texas football team winning the Idaho and winning 370 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: a championship. It's like, that's like, you're Minnesota, You're the 371 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: hockey team, you know what I mean. 372 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 7: I mean, the Wild had definitely been I think the 373 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 7: most successful of all the like men's major sports there, 374 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 7: so they still do have like a hockey team to 375 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 7: root for. But I mean, the Lord knows the Vikings, 376 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 7: the Twins, and the Timberwolves have historically not been had 377 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 7: a stellar stellar record. I mean, like all you need, 378 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 7: the only fact you need to know about the Timberwolves 379 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 7: is that this is their first time getting to the 380 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 7: second round since Kevin Garnett was there. So I mean, 381 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 7: like that's abysmal as far as a track record goes. 382 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 7: My thing is, I do think, I you know, I 383 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 7: I think that Minnesota fans should be really proud of 384 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 7: this team. Still, I do agree with you that I 385 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 7: think Denver will take care of business. I think this 386 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 7: is going to be over in six games personally, and 387 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 7: that's coming from someone who thought Minnesota was gonna win 388 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 7: this series. But I think just seeing this version of Yokichen, 389 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 7: the fact that Jamal Murray looks like pretty much back 390 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 7: to himself now, I think is a game changer. But 391 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 7: they should still be really proud of, like having such 392 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 7: an incredible regular season. Like Anthony Edwards is twenty two, 393 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 7: I think he's one of the best leaders in sports, 394 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 7: like in the NBA already, Like he galvanizes his team 395 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 7: unlike many other players in the league. So you have 396 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 7: an incredible leader who like looks like the second coming 397 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 7: of MJ on his best nights, and he's twenty two 398 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 7: years old. You have you know, like I think you 399 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 7: have space to move Kat this summer if that's what 400 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 7: you're planning to do to get some more offense. 401 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 8: And yeah, the future is bright. 402 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 7: So I don't think they should hang their heads, but 403 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 7: I do think, like it does feel real Minnesota sports 404 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 7: to go up to nothing and then lose four games 405 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 7: in overall. 406 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: Well, it's time for to win six straight and then 407 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: lose fourgner. I mean, it's just. 408 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 8: It's Phoenix team. Can we be honest. 409 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 7: Can we be honest honest about Phoenix, Like they were 410 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 7: beating themselves a little bit like that was that was 411 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 7: pretty That was hard to watch. 412 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 6: I thought they were slowing down Joker. 413 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: That's why we thought they could win, right because they 414 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: were giving Joker trouble at this point. 415 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 6: Do you know what I'm saying? We had never seen 416 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 6: that before. 417 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 8: He was beating up Joker. 418 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 7: He shook, he looked panicked, and I've never seen him 419 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 7: look panic before. But that's the thing about his his 420 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 7: basketball brain is he's so even keeled. He can be like, oh, 421 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 7: I got my ass whip and he's like, all right, 422 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 7: how do I never do that again? 423 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 5: You know? 424 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 8: So I think that's to me. 425 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 7: I was like posting about this last night, like I 426 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 7: think the Denver Nuggets superpower and their Achilles Hill are 427 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 7: one and the same, which is that they do not 428 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 7: get rattled really and sometimes like getting rattled is sort 429 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 7: of what the moment calls for, Like sometimes you really 430 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 7: need somebody, you know, on that bench being like we're 431 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 7: not going to fucking go out like this, like we're 432 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 7: not gonna let Minnesota whoop our ass. And I don't 433 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: know if they really have somebody like that. However, that 434 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 7: even keeledness and that innate calm is what enabled them 435 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 7: to go down two in that fashion and then come 436 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 7: back and win three three straight games. They never got 437 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 7: they never lost sense of who they were. They never 438 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 7: got fully like thrown off their axis. And that's I 439 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 7: think a credit to Jokic. Like I think that's just 440 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 7: the kind of guy he is, Like he's never gonna 441 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 7: get too high or too low in any circumstance. 442 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: I think Michael Lohane's coaching his ass off too, man, 443 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That double team has aunt frustrated. 444 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: His body language today, Yeah was. I mean, I don't 445 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: know if I've seen Ant have that type of body 446 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: language and the playoffs definitely not, you know what I mean? 447 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 6: He was. 448 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: He was completely you know, frustrated. That double team hasn't frustrated. 449 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, and then like Joker reminds me of Bron 450 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: and how involved he is in everything. Yes, on the offense, 451 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, Like everything that was good, 452 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: like during like the run they had when they like 453 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: stretched out, everything was going through Joker. 454 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 6: The last time I've seen that was Lebron James. Yes, 455 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 6: you feel. 456 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: Reads from there everything goes through you. 457 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: Feel me, and so like, i'ven't seen that since Lebron, 458 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: So I mean he's I mean, it's just a special player. 459 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 6: And he looked incredible tonight. 460 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: But I mean, like I said, it's just weird seeing 461 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: defensive Player of the Year look like, you know, like 462 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: all again joking, you know what I mean. 463 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 6: Rudy's on me again, you feel Yeah. 464 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 5: That's like I tweet it right before we hopped on 465 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: like that. 466 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: You know, Jokic is a native to America, so he's 467 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: not up on all our customs. He didn't know we 468 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: give barbecue chicken Defensive Player of the Year. 469 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 5: Every year, Like that's he where he comes from. 470 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year probably goes to a guy 471 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: who plays defense and intimidates you or makes you makes. 472 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 6: It harder at least uncomfortable. 473 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: It would at least make you uncomfortable in some way, 474 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: you feel me. 475 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 4: Claire mentioned that the supercomputer on Jokich, and I love 476 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: that because I do feel like he's he's like one 477 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: of the like comic book villains who like can see 478 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: see you do something one time and just boo boop, 479 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 4: like straight into the brain and there was a stretch 480 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 4: in the third quarter. I think Reggie Miller actually caught 481 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: it out where it almost felt intentional, like he was 482 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: doing the dream shake and then he was doing the skyhook, 483 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: and then he was getting a shack, you know, forty 484 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: foot long drop step around the bottom of nasria. 485 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 5: Like it he did. 486 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: He went through such a succession of moves on consecutive possessions, 487 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 4: and he did tonight. 488 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: What I what to me is his. 489 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: Signature offensive move, which is to get the fuck out 490 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 4: of here three pointer with point five seconds left of 491 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 4: the shot, climbing the. 492 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 5: Soccer throw is throw shot? 493 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: Isn't that shit? 494 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: To Anthony Davis and literally broke my brain that Like 495 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: it was just like, all right, fuck this, bro I. 496 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 7: Tweet about I tweeted about this tonight. But that shot 497 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 7: looks like when they pick someone out of the crowd 498 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 7: at Staples Center to try and make a half court 499 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 7: shot for one hundred thousand dollars. Like his form on 500 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 7: that is just like Steve from section two ten. But 501 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 7: it goes in every time, and I never doubt it either. 502 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 7: Like the second he goes like this, I'm like, oh, 503 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 7: that's cash, Like I don't it's the ugliest jump shot 504 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 7: I've ever seen in my life. And I'm never not 505 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 7: even jump shot. It's the ugliest, like just long rain shocks. 506 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 7: I don't even think he really jumps on it, but 507 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 7: like I never have a question about I'm shocked when 508 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 7: it doesn't go in. And a few times in game 509 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 7: two when he missed a couple of those, I was like, what, 510 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 7: I didn't even know you could miss that. 511 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 8: That's automatic. 512 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: You can't block it because he's shooting it from behind 513 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: his head, you know what I mean. 514 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 6: It's unblockable. 515 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 4: You know. 516 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 8: I can't wait to go down to like the Park 517 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 8: this summer and. 518 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: Just like that, all the trainers in southern California, that's 519 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: what they should be. 520 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 5: Give me a thousand dollars. I'll teach your son bullshit. 521 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 8: Like Philip Seymour Hoffman and along King Polly. 522 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: Yeah all right, what. 523 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: A special player though, what a fucking special seriously, you 524 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like as much as I'm rooting 525 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: for the Timberwolves, you know, I just love Aunt. I 526 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: wanted to see them, you know, pull it off. You 527 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: just get caught up in the beauty of Joker, you 528 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like in the and like Oh 529 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: my god, this is unbelievable. You feel me like I'm 530 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: I was bombed watching because I was like, dam I 531 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: didn't want him go out like this, you know, going 532 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour, winning six in a row 533 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: and they didn't a brick wall and losing four in 534 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: a row is rough, you know what I mean? 535 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 6: But which is what we think is gonna happen. 536 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, goh, what he's doing is justh 537 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: I gave up. 538 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 5: I gave up tonight rooting it. I'm just rooting for 539 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 5: the Nuggets at this point. 540 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm just rooting for them to embarrass the Celtics as 541 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: like aggressively as possible. 542 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: That's me. That's the roomain. 543 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 7: They definitely will, Oh, they definitely will, definitely will. The 544 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: thing I know is that Anthony Edwards is definitely gonna 545 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 7: win a championship at some point, and he's definitely gonna 546 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 7: win an MVP at some point. 547 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 8: I feel so certain about that fact. 548 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 7: I mean even ten years from now, he'll be thirty two, 549 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, So like that shit is 550 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 7: gonna happen, and I I really do think it's an 551 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 7: important part of your villain origin story to run into 552 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 7: one of the greatest of all time at the absolute 553 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 7: peak of his powers. I think every great player has 554 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 7: had that happen to them. 555 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 6: Sos, you know what I'm saying. 556 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, everyone has had that, So I think it's it's 557 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 7: going to be important to his development, and I have 558 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 7: no doubt that he's the kind of like basketball Sico 559 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 7: that's just going to use it as motivation. He's going 560 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 7: to get in the lab this summer and he's going 561 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 7: to come back even better, which is a terrifying idea, 562 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 7: like an even better Anthony Edwards. 563 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 8: He's already so so good. 564 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: But I think you made a great point that I 565 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: wanted to touch on with him again on leadership. Kat 566 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: played like a different guy this year with the Anthony origin. 567 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: I think he's had that effect on people who are 568 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 4: older than him. It's kind of insane that he's been 569 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 4: able to do that at twenty two years old. But 570 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: I think I think you're exactly right. Like this series, 571 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 4: you he sees the limitations of that you can turn 572 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 4: someone into the best version of themselves for X amount 573 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: of time, but you're going to run into an opponent 574 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 4: where you can't turn them into a different person. And 575 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 4: that's what it feels like happened to me in this series. 576 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, No, for sure, And I 577 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 7: think to me, I've spoken on this before, but I 578 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 7: think the most impressive thing about Anthony Edwards is his leadership. 579 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 7: You know, I think all the other stuff that he's 580 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 7: obviously a freak athlete, I think he's actually his basketball, 581 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 7: Like we've watched it grow, even in this postseason. 582 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 8: I've watched it grow. He's an incredible basketball player. 583 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 7: But like you listen to him in those postgame press 584 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 7: conferences and the way his emotional intelligence when he's like 585 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 7: trying to bring the best out of his team and 586 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 7: his teammates, and like it's really it would be amazing 587 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 7: at any age really, and for a twenty two year old, 588 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: it's like mind boggling, honestly. 589 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 8: So so impressed with him. 590 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: So authentic. 591 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: He's not the lead with cliches type dude. Like like 592 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: you mentioned in this post game he had Cat rights out. 593 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: He's like, Cat, what I'll tell you, I as stop balon. 594 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: Ain't that what I told you? 595 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. 596 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like he was trying to put a 597 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: more spotied though under the bus you could sell. That 598 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: was like private conversation he had where he was coaching 599 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: them up and they would have a you need a 600 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: laugh about it. So yeah, I'm very much impressed with 601 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: his leadership as well, because, like I said, it's so genuine, 602 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: and for him to be that genuine, like I said, 603 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: had that emotional intelligence at such a young age. 604 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 605 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 7: He was so smart in that same press conference too, 606 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 7: because on the one hand, he made sure to call 607 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 7: out Kat publicly about the fouling, but then he said, 608 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 7: because it's so important for you to be on the 609 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 7: floor because you're our best offensive player, so we need 610 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 7: you out there and they can't stop you when you're 611 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 7: out there. And like any of us who've worked with 612 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 7: people forget in basketball anywhere, knows like that is brilliant 613 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 7: to like Couch that feedback with a compliment and with 614 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 7: building him up in that way so that you don't 615 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 7: you make sure he doesn't lose that confidence, and to 616 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 7: have that emotional intelligence at twenty two is just like incredible. 617 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 4: I didn't know about the compliment Sandwich when I was 618 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 4: twenty two years old. 619 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 620 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Hey, if you could do this and then hey, 621 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 4: because we need you to you know, yeah, it really. 622 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 8: Is this offensive player, Like that's not even true, dude. 623 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 6: I mean you got Yeah, it was a little bit 624 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 6: of a lie, but it sound very believable. So even 625 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: if he's not telling the truth, that sounds. 626 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: And believed it when he heard it all for solutely 627 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: believed it. 628 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and he knows his personnel, like he 629 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 7: knows who he's working with. Like you know, he was 630 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 7: like when Denver one Game three, you know, Ant was 631 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 7: on the sidelines being like, it's a series, guys, it's 632 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 7: a series. Like we're good, We're good. I'm not worried, 633 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 7: like you know, he wasn't melting down. He wasn't sitting 634 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 7: there with his head in his hands like shaking his head, 635 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 7: you know, Like his body language was still like super 636 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 7: on point. And I just like, to me, you know, 637 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 7: athleticism aside, like basketball, I Q aside, like the sky's 638 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 7: the limit for a kid that age with those leadership qualities, 639 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 7: Like I really think that the sky is the roof 640 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 7: for sure. 641 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: The sky was not the limit for the Indiana Pacers tonight. 642 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: I think we were all hoping for a much better 643 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: game than what we got that nixt won by thirty points. Uh, 644 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: it was too too Game five of person that, you know, 645 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: team that wins that is usually winning the series. I 646 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: feel like every time I looked at my group chat, 647 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 4: it was just a bunch of people screaming, why is 648 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: Tyrese Halibert not understanding what moment this game is in 649 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: his career? Took nine shots tonight, five of nine for 650 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: thirteen points in a must win Game five on the road. 651 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson not his most efficient scoring night, but clearly 652 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: understood the moment. Took thirty five shots to score forty 653 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: four points. 654 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 655 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 5: How disappointing was this guy? 656 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: I really was hoping for a lot more from the 657 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 4: running gun Pacers and the pace that they've played with 658 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: than to put up this kind of a performance. 659 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 7: Well, I'm personally just so in love with this next 660 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 7: team that it's really coloring my analysis of the series 661 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 7: because I've just fallen, like head over heels in love 662 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 7: with this team. I don't know how you couldn't unless 663 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 7: you're already a Pacers fan. Like they're everything that's good 664 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 7: about basketball. They play so hard, they play for each other, 665 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 7: They're like such a team you know what I mean, 666 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 7: Like it obviously jaylen Brunson is transit, but it's really 667 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 7: not even just about his transcendence. Like they're such a 668 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 7: team and they play for each other and they do 669 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 7: all the little stuff and like the dirty work. They're 670 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 7: diving on the ground for loose balls, like they're so 671 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 7: New York too, Like it's just, oh, it's beautiful. Knicks 672 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 7: fans deserve this, Like we were talking about how tortured 673 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 7: Timberwolves fans are, like Knicks fans are right there as 674 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 7: far as like not having a whole lot to cheer 675 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 7: for in the last couple decades. So I'm really happy 676 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 7: for them, and I do think, yeah, part of it 677 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 7: is the Pacers did not rise to the moment, and 678 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 7: Tyre's Halliburton doesn't seem like he understands that, like he 679 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 7: needs to be aggressive for them to be good, period, Like. 680 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 8: That's that's the formula. 681 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, But then I also think the Knicks just like 682 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 7: we knew they weren't going to go out like that, 683 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 7: like they weren't going to get embarrassed like that and 684 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: come back and not put on like an incredible performance. 685 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 8: So that was my take home for sure. 686 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're such a tough team. 687 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: Like I feel like their obituary's written like three or 688 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: four times this postseason already, and they come back and 689 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: just fight and claw and scratch the next game and 690 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: get a win every freaking time. 691 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: And it's just like, you know, like you said that, 692 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: they're just so New York. They're just so tough, they're 693 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: so gretty. 694 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: They're they're like like I've seen next fans saying this 695 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: is their favorite next team that they've seen, and they're like, oh, 696 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: and I completely understand because they embody so much of 697 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: what Knicks basketball is. They're gritty, they're tough, they're fearless, 698 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: like you know Dante and you know Dante Miles Turner 699 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: about to go out of Dante wasn't scared of at all, Like. 700 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: Brot says, he was confused. 701 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 8: Like really, they so fearless. 702 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 6: He called the man a bitch and he's a foot 703 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 6: tall than him. It was like like you know what 704 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like it's crazy, but you're. 705 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: For so for Tye is interested though, because we had 706 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: like had taken two shots like in the middle of 707 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: the like clost at the end of the. 708 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 5: Second like you were going to throw your phone. He's 709 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 5: taking I've. 710 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: Been talking about this all series. You know what I mean, 711 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: Like when when ty Reese is I mean, they can't. 712 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: They're at their best when ty Reche is aggressive, period. 713 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: You know I mean, they got out work tonight. They 714 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: got out work tonight, period. 715 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. 716 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: I think, like like there was what's what's on the 717 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: big man? Hart and Son hard though Hertenstein had had 718 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: more offensive rebounds and they had rebounds at one point. 719 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 6: In the game. You feel what I'm saying, Like they 720 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 6: just got they got they got out work tonight. You 721 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 6: feel what I'm saying. 722 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: But like Tyree's at minimum, you have to be aggressive 723 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: for them to win. 724 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 6: They have no chances. 725 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: He's not aggressive, and so it's just odd to see 726 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: a player have, like as good as he is, to 727 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: be so passive in a moment like this. 728 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: You just you mentioned the rebounding stat We've talked a 729 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: lot about how demoralizing it is to have that offensive 730 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: rebound margin. You have eleven offensive rebounds the Knicks to 731 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: Night had, Yeah, he had twelve, The Knicks to Night 732 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: had twenty. 733 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: Hartenstein had twelve. 734 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: They had twenty offensive rebounds to twenty nine total rebounds 735 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: by the Pacers. 736 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: That's funny. 737 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 7: You're not going to win a game that way, especially 738 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 7: not Massive Square Garden. I thought it was similar. Actually, 739 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 7: it was like a similar sort of young person in 740 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 7: learning curve moment. The way the Pacers responded to that 741 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 7: blowout game and how they came out in the next game, 742 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 7: and the timberwol same thing after game two, how they 743 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 7: came out in game three. Like I think that there 744 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 7: is something to like not having been there before, like 745 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 7: that youth and inexperience to thinking like shit, sweet after 746 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 7: you blow a team out and embarrass them and then 747 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 7: you come back the next game and like you forget 748 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 7: that these are not only NBA players but NBA players 749 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 7: in the second round of the playoffs. Like you're not 750 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 7: gonna cakewalk anywhere in the playoffs, Like you have to 751 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 7: it's zero zero every single game. 752 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 8: That's the only way you can approach it. 753 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: Jackson just texted me there's a quote from Dante DiVincenzo 754 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: after the game. They're trying to be tough guys. That's 755 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: not their identity. 756 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 6: I believe, bro. 757 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: I know Dante is a foot shorter and turner, but 758 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: Dante seemed more believable in that situation. You know what 759 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I was gonna turner like you really ay, 760 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: you know, like it seemed like a hold me backshit. 761 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying any I don't notice. Man, you 762 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 6: know he. 763 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Might be like that, you feel me, But the energy 764 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: I was getting it made it made sense for him 765 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: to say that, you know what I mean, in that altercation. 766 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: But if you were talking about them like feeling like 767 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: shits sweet, I kind of feel like the Timberwolves did 768 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: the same thing, but timbolves the first two games out work, 769 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. The Nuggets point blank, you 770 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: feel me? They were I mean they were to national defense. 771 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: They put so much pressure you know what I'm saying 772 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: on offense and then they got comfortable. 773 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's interesting. 774 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 5: Well versus yeah, versus. 775 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: You listen to what Kid said after the game tonight, 776 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: and one of the unfortunate things about sports is that 777 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: like the like coach speak is true, right, Like and 778 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 4: jo Kic after the game, they're like, oh, you know, 779 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: you guys played with desperation and he cut the interview. 780 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: He was like, we're still desperate. Our back is still 781 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: against the wall. Where they get like. 782 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: And and it's not Michae alone Michael. He's not bullshitting 783 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 5: you know, no, no, no. 784 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 6: But I think he doesn't like people call him Mic. 785 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 7: Right like it because he embarrassed Cassidy Hubbers on TV. 786 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 7: I think it was in the bubble. She was like, yeah, 787 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 7: like coach Mike Malone. He's like, it's Michael. And I'm like, 788 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 7: you could have done that off TV. 789 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 5: You didn't need to do that, you could have done 790 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 5: it off TV. 791 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: And also we had a lot of fun with him 792 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: at that point, clear because it's like, who wants to 793 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: be a Michael like? 794 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 5: And I it's like I've. 795 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: Never known and I actually he seems like obviously a 796 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: great coach, he seems like a good dude, but like, 797 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 4: I've never known a person in real life who wanted 798 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 4: to be called by Michael who is not an just 799 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: an enormous asshole. 800 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. 801 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: I think that's like you can see Jokic really believes 802 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 4: that he's not just saying it because he heard his 803 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 4: coach say he knows it. He's really saying no, no, no, no, 804 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: they woke us up. We were down oh two, and 805 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 4: we're not gonna feel like we're not desperate until halfway 806 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: through the parade, Like that's just where they're going to 807 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 4: be coming from. And you know that there's a genuine 808 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: power to that. And I agree with you. It feels 809 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 4: like the Knicks are very tapped into that right now. 810 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 4: And I hope they get it done. I hope they 811 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 4: can give this self the series. But you know, the 812 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 4: Celtics limp right into the fucking thresher that is the Nuggets. 813 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 5: That's fine with me too. 814 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I honestly think the Knicks would have 815 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 7: I think the Knicks would be in the finals this 816 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 7: year if they had og and Obi and Mitchell Robinson. 817 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 8: Like, I don't have any faith in the Celtics team. 818 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 7: I've been banging that, like seeing that from the rooftops 819 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 7: all year long. I think that they you know, when 820 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 7: when things are going well, when they're front running, when. 821 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 5: They get off lead total, they. 822 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 8: Play incredible and they look unstoppable. 823 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 7: At the first sign of adversity, they completely abandon everything 824 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 7: that makes them good. 825 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 8: They play dumb iso ball. 826 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 7: I was telling some friends tonight, like, to me, the 827 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 7: Celtics look like the absolute best guys at the y 828 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 7: playing pick up like They're all really good, really good. Sorry, 829 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 7: I like them so disgusted by them that I like 830 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 7: you threw up in your mouth a little talking about 831 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 7: the Celtics. 832 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 6: Office made you gag. 833 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 4: Truly, No, I'm gonna just start doing that when we're 834 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: talking about the Celtics. 835 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I love that. That was awesome. 836 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 7: But they they really do just look like a bunch 837 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 7: of very talented guys playing together versus like the Knicks, 838 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 7: like I said, are like a capital T team. And 839 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 7: I really think the Knicks could have taken them at 840 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 7: full strength even with Krisaps if Kris Sabs was there. 841 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 7: I would take the Knicks fully healthy in a seven 842 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 7: game series against the Celtics, fully healthy. Not because of talent, 843 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 7: because obviously the Celtics are the more talented team in 844 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 7: that case, but just because, like when the going gets tough, 845 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 7: when the other team is like the grittier, tougher team, 846 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 7: the Celtics have shown time and time again that they 847 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 7: will abandon what works. 848 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 8: So I don't trust him. 849 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 2: I think May had him, Like I think when em 850 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: was coaching, he gave him that grittiness, you know what 851 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean. 852 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 6: Like I think he like Jason Tatum. 853 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: You know he's like, yo, bro, like fuck all that 854 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: cute shit, Jason Tatum was the biggest loser of e 855 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: may being a freaky frog. You know what I'm saying, Like, 856 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, what's the what's the biggest loser? 857 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 6: For sure? I'm just saying like I'm just saying. 858 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: Bro, Like, I mean, a man, a man was moving 859 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 2: real real, real nasty. 860 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 861 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 6: We were real nasty. 862 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, I think Jason because losing Jason Tatum's 863 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: whole legacy, Bro, I mean, he. 864 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 6: Might they might have had a dynasty at this point, 865 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 866 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: Like if Jason Tatum like was playing tough like and 867 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: big moments, you know, that'd be that'd be crazy. So 868 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, man, but yeah, I agree with They're just 869 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: when when when the ship you know, when the ship 870 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: is hot, Bro, they just they just crumble. 871 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 4: We have got to talk about because I know all 872 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 4: four of us are painfully invested in the Lakers coaching search, 873 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 4: which officially hit today. 874 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 8: Coach K. 875 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, so coach K is on as a consultant. 876 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 8: Where did he coach again? Sorry I can't remember. I 877 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 8: don't want to refresh my memory there he. 878 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 5: Coached Sam Cassell. I think, didn't he coach Sam Cassell? Claire? 879 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 5: I think was it? You tweeted out the video of 880 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 5: Bron's hypothetical, so yes that this is so funny. 881 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 4: Claire tweeted out on their podcast Broun asking JJ Reddick 882 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 4: hypothetically like when you're coaching your kids, do you like 883 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: more threes or do you like I mean, but he 884 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 4: even was doing his fucking Bron face of like, yeah, 885 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 4: I'm so cute, Like this is gonna be so funny 886 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 4: when you end up being the head coach of the 887 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: Lakers in two months. 888 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 5: And there was a. 889 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 7: Between coaching your kids like hypothetically when you're coaching your 890 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 7: kids your kids, and then JJ just started like hysterically 891 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 7: laughing because it was the most unsubtle. 892 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, that was awesome. 893 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 7: I love their podcast for the record, but it's really good. 894 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 5: Are you excited to watch eighty two games of it 895 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 5: next year? 896 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 7: Well, I mean I end up covering like so I'm 897 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 7: technically a national writer, but I end up covering like 898 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 7: a lot of Lakers just because like I live in 899 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 7: La right, and so I will be I'm sure attending 900 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 7: you know, forty something. JJ Reddick postgame prest conferences next year. 901 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 7: I think I'm of of the available coaches. Honestly, I 902 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 7: think it's the best choice. I really do like without 903 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 7: a shred of irony, I don't I don't think. I 904 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 7: don't think you need like a super experienced coach in 905 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 7: this role. I think you need a guy that these 906 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 7: guys respect and that they're going to listen to, and 907 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 7: that has a good basketball mind. And also the most 908 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 7: important thing, which I do think he's smart enough and 909 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 7: self aware enough to know, is like when to reverse course, 910 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 7: when to humble yourself, and you know, take advice. And 911 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 7: if he has a great supporting coaching staff around him, 912 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 7: and he's willing to listen to like what the players 913 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 7: think like I do think that's you have one of 914 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 7: the greatest basketball minds in all time and Lebron James 915 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 7: like on your team. I don't think you need to 916 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 7: be like Spoe to be a competent coach for this team. 917 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 7: I think you need to be able to make in 918 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 7: game adjustments. I think you need to be able to 919 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 7: detect who your best five players are more them play 920 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 7: them more than the other players who aren't as good 921 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 7: and aren't making as much money, and I think you 922 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 7: need to understand your personnel and understand like you know, 923 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 7: I think Darvin had a coaching philosophy that was he 924 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 7: was very you know, it was very committed to, and 925 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 7: I don't think he had the personnel that match that philosophy, 926 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 7: and instead of adjusting to his personnel, he tried to 927 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 7: adjust the personnel to the philosophy. 928 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 8: Like I think he's just about guards who can run fast. 929 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 7: I think that's what he wants to see on the court, 930 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 7: and that's what he believes in. And the Lakers strength 931 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 7: was always the bigger that those lineups were, the better 932 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 7: they were. 933 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: So I. 934 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: Think with Bron, he wants a coach who is on 935 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: the same page with him. He doesn't want a coach 936 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: to lead him or to teach him. He wants a 937 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: coach who sees the game the same way he does. 938 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: And I think came in JJC the game the same way. 939 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: And he knows that, you know, because we remember that 940 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: moment where it was after a Lakers lost this season 941 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: and Bron you know, was about to answer question, but 942 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: he said, no, no, I'm gonna stop myself right there 943 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: because he knew the answer. He knew what should have 944 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: been done in that game, right, But Darvin Half, for 945 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: whatever reason, was not on the same page with him. 946 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: So Bron isn't looking for someone out there to give 947 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: him a guy and sort of be a teacher. He's 948 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: looking for someone to be on the same page. And 949 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: I think him and JJ are for showing the same page. 950 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: And I think jj'ss guy. And I've said that ever 951 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: since the dots started connecting on why he started that 952 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: podcast with him? Yeah, that whole podcast has just been 953 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: one big piece of campaign material. 954 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 2: Bro. 955 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 8: Yes, brilliantly. 956 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 4: Jason Gallagher the best campaign manager out there. GA Gallagher 957 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 4: for the successful campaign managing of the JJ Reddick twenty 958 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 4: twenty four. 959 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 8: I'm the president of the Jason Gallagher Fan Club. 960 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 4: I think I think Jackson's the vice president. We all 961 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 4: love Jason for sure. It's just funny. It's like it's 962 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 4: genuinely such a great podcast. But it does increase, like yeah, 963 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 4: like the QVC, like did you like this podcast called 964 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: one eight hundred JJ Reddick to order him as your 965 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 4: coach tonight? 966 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 5: Like, oh my god. 967 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 7: The other one I think is an important I just 968 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 7: want to say real quick while we're still on the 969 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 7: Lakers coaching topic. 970 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 8: Like the other thing I think is really. 971 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 7: Important for a coach of specifically the Lakers and also 972 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 7: just a Lebron James team in general. To be that 973 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 7: Darvinham was not is like willing to fall on the sword, 974 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 7: even if it's not even if you don't actually believe 975 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 7: it's your fault, Like you have to be willing to 976 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 7: take some accountability. It's just the nature of the job, 977 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 7: especially especially the Lakers. Honestly, with anyone on it, without Lebron, 978 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 7: it's such a high profile franchise and Darvin was always 979 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 7: so reticent to accept any responsibility and it was always 980 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 7: like deflecting blame and like, oh we just when we 981 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 7: get whole, or like oh we need to play with 982 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 7: more energy, or oh just tip your cap to the 983 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 7: other team. 984 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 8: They're just better tonight, you know. 985 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 7: And so I think JJ's media savvy, he's smart, he 986 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 7: knows how to work a press conference, and I think 987 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 7: that's a really important like understand quality of Lakers head coat. 988 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 6: I think Darvin always knew his head was on a 989 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 6: chopping block though, you know what I mean. 990 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 5: Well, he was over I think he was in over 991 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 5: his head and he was. 992 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 7: Always was trying to project really dude though, by the way, 993 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 7: I just feel like I should say that as I'm 994 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 7: like sitting on him, right, huge fan. 995 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 4: Of him as a prayer We said that, We said 996 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 4: that when we did our celebration Balloons Dropping podcast that 997 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 4: he got fired. It was like, I think he's a 998 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 4: great guy. His life story is unbelievable. Yeah, A big 999 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 4: fan of him as a person. It just has nothing to 1000 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 4: do with being the head coach at the Lakers without 1001 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 4: due respect. 1002 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: Right, So, how do you feel about JJ Mike, how 1003 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 2: do you feel? I know we've been talking about we 1004 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: want to frame. 1005 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wanted jj Reddick, as we all discussed, 1006 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 4: would not have been that experiment, would not be how 1007 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 4: I would want the next couple of years ago. I 1008 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 4: don't I'm personally I would be very happy if they 1009 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 4: hired Sam Kassel jj Reddick. I think to Claire's point, 1010 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 4: I don't disagree that he would not necessarily be the 1011 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 4: best option number one. First off, he keeps Lebron, and 1012 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 4: he keeps Lebron happy. They're just they're all in on 1013 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 4: that at this point, right, There's no version of this 1014 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 4: team that I'm excited to watch next year. 1015 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 5: That's just not it's just not the way things currently look. 1016 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 4: That being said, this is the story of the Lakers 1017 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 4: in the last couple of decades is they get up 1018 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 4: to the plate, they do not watch strikes, They swing 1019 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 4: as hard as they can, and they are gonna hit 1020 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 4: a home run or they are gonna strike out and 1021 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: miss the ball by two feet in one direction or another. 1022 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 4: Steve Nash and Dwight Howard. Obviously bringing in Bron ad 1023 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 4: is great the baby Lakers with the braby, but then 1024 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 4: you bring in Russell Westbrook big strikeout, you know you 1025 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 4: you go, Okay, we're gonna give this guy. I mean, 1026 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: think about really how crazy it is to give Darvin 1027 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 4: Ham his first shot at being an NBA head coach 1028 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 4: with potentially the end of Lebron James's career. Like you know, 1029 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean, like that really that's a big swing and 1030 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 4: it didn't work out. He was not necessarily like in 1031 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 4: the position or ready for that job. So jj Reddick, 1032 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 4: he could be pat Riley, I mean, like that's the 1033 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 4: best case scenario, or he could be another guy where 1034 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 4: it's a second time in a row you try to 1035 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 4: give someone their first head coaching job. With Liberty the 1036 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 4: tail end of Lebron James's career. I'm at this point, 1037 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm sort of resigned to that until the Lakers become 1038 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 4: owned by the Guggenheim group that owns the Dodgers and 1039 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 4: everything else in LA, that runs everything off of an 1040 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 4: AI model that's correct about everything. This is what the 1041 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 4: Lakers are. It's gonna be big swings and fuck it 1042 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 4: like it'll be interesting. 1043 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: Is never boring. 1044 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 8: What I've heard. 1045 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 7: What I've heard that is heartening is that they're willing 1046 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 7: to when they entered this coaching search, they were willing 1047 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 7: to pay whatever for like the best candidate possible. And 1048 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 7: that was really heartening to me because obviously, I think 1049 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 7: the Russ move was the worst mistake they've made, and 1050 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 7: I mean it was one of the worst NBA like 1051 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 7: front office mistakes ever honestly, like historically. But I think 1052 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 7: the second worst mistake they've made in Lebron's tenure was 1053 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 7: not was like, uh, giving TYLERU an offensively low offer 1054 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 7: like ty and making him and because honestly, like I 1055 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 7: really believe in my heart of hearts that if Tyler 1056 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 7: had been the Lakers coach this whole time, they would 1057 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 7: have multiple Championships, Like I really. 1058 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 8: I think that's kind of just objective fact honestly, And. 1059 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 4: You wouldn't have let them get rid of he would 1060 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 4: have like he would have grabbed himself around kcp's leg 1061 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 4: and been like no. 1062 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 8: So many things wouldn't have happened. 1063 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 5: I mean. 1064 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 7: And also he wouldn't have lost the locker room that 1065 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 7: was because that was Frank Vogel's biggest downfall is that 1066 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 7: he lost locker room. 1067 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 8: Same thing obviously happened in Phoenix. 1068 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 7: It's not that Frank Vogel is not an excellent NBA 1069 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 7: head coach, but the problem is, like managing egos and 1070 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 7: managing superstars is a huge part of coaching beside like 1071 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 7: x's and O's aside, And he lost that locker room, 1072 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 7: and I like, just knowing TYLERU, he would not like, 1073 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 7: that's not Tyler's bag. Like, if he's going to do anything, 1074 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 7: he's going to have these guys respect. So that to 1075 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 7: me is like shaking fist at Sky the Lakers for 1076 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 7: not paying that man, because I don't think that they're 1077 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 7: going to lure him away from the Clippers. I think 1078 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 7: Steve Balmer is gonna throw whatever bag he needs to 1079 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 7: at him to keep him. 1080 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 4: We made him an extra couple million dollars with the Clippers. 1081 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 4: I feel like that's. 1082 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 8: What we did basically, and he deserves every penny's. 1083 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 5: Wait, well, yeah, you're you're, you're. 1084 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 4: You're tapping into a lot of well worn storylines on 1085 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 4: this podcast. Okay, a couple of non basketball things to 1086 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 4: talk about. Did you guys see this portal that they 1087 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 4: opened from New York to Dublin. 1088 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 3: Why did they do that? 1089 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 5: What we want you see? 1090 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 6: The immediately they opened. 1091 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 4: They opened this it's like a big circular screen with 1092 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 4: a live camera in I don't know if it was 1093 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 4: Times Square somewhere else, like you know, dense in a 1094 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 4: densely populated part of New York and it was just 1095 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 4: on a live camera to Dublin, so people in Ireland 1096 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 4: and people in New York could go and like someone 1097 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 4: in Dublin put up a picture on their phone and 1098 00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 4: held it up to the camera. 1099 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 5: Nine to eleven, someone in New York flashed. The woman 1100 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 5: flashed her chest at the people in Dublin. 1101 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 4: I think it made it like sixteen hours before they 1102 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 4: shut it down, and we're like human beings. 1103 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: The woman who in New York who flashed her chest 1104 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: asked them, how do you like these potatoes? 1105 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 3: I am not making that up. That is exactly what 1106 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 3: she said. There's footy. You can check for yourself. The 1107 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 3: worst ever. Know. 1108 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 4: I respect, I respect people who trust human beings enough 1109 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 4: to put something up like this. 1110 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 5: I just don't understand them. 1111 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 7: I just you in New Yorker who trusts human beings? 1112 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 7: That That's what I don't understand. 1113 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 8: How have you lived in New York City? 1114 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 7: Like you have to keep your head on a swivel 1115 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 7: at all times in New York like nobody trusts anybody there. 1116 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1117 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 6: They revealed the purpose? Have they revealed the purpose of this? 1118 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 6: It was just like a fun little experiment. Let's just 1119 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 6: see what happens time show. 1120 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 8: That's what they said when they made Jurassic Park. 1121 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 5: So it kind of was a sick Parks yeah situation. Okay. 1122 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 4: The last thing was, did y'all see the graduation speech 1123 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 4: that Harrison Butker gave the Chiefs the Chiefs punter? 1124 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 8: Yea, I saw some of it? 1125 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I. 1126 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: Think I saw like a little snippet that did y'all 1127 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: drop that in the group to was y'all? 1128 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 6: Or that might be another one? 1129 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 5: I think so. 1130 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 4: Harrison Bucker went into his barber first of all and said, 1131 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 4: give me the most obnoxious ship on the on the 1132 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 4: fucking charts at the moment. 1133 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 5: But yeah, one hundred percent. 1134 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 4: But it's like you can see what he was seeing 1135 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 4: in his head of like, this is the day I 1136 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 4: launched my eventual presidential candidacy by going on stage and 1137 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 4: talking about how women should not have careers and how 1138 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 4: men have been lied to about masculinity being toxic. What's 1139 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 4: who was this, Bena Dickkine College? 1140 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 5: I do believe that. 1141 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I. 1142 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 4: Don't know, Tyler. What was your reaction to Harrison Bucker's 1143 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 4: graduation speech? 1144 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: First thing I saw? I thought, when I saw this, buddy, 1145 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: we are about to do some kicker shaming. Like that 1146 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: was my very first thought, and that has been the 1147 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: direct point of attack that everyone's coming with. Like I 1148 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: saw someone say, we're having a kicker preach to us 1149 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: about what the peak of masculinity is, and like, I 1150 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: think that's all they needs to be said here. 1151 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like you're a kicker, that's it. 1152 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 7: You're like the you're like the pansiest like football player 1153 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 7: that there are. 1154 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: Like your coworkers don't even respect you, Bro. 1155 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 4: No NFL players feel about kickers the way NBA players 1156 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 4: feel about Rudy Gobert. 1157 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 5: That's a fact. 1158 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 8: That's that's fact. Even the good ones. 1159 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: Iran Meyer, old ass was abusing a kicker, like they 1160 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: said he would just run up to the kicker and 1161 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: just kick him in his shins, like sixty year old 1162 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer thought you was somebody to just steal off. 1163 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 3: All Bro, you're literally. 1164 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 7: You're playing like the most violent high contact sport on Earth, 1165 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 7: and you're the only player who is guaranteed that no 1166 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 7: one can lay a finger on you. 1167 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 8: Like that's soft as ship, I mean. 1168 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 4: Not allowed to touch him, can't do it anyway. I 1169 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 4: had to make fun of Harrison Butker also a bad name. 1170 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 4: It looks like a type of Butler. Every time I 1171 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 4: see it, I think someone missed type of butler. 1172 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I hope he gets waved for saying that stuff. 1173 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 7: He probably won't because you know football, but I he 1174 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 7: shouldn't be allowed to because he that was I mean, 1175 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 7: he said so many incredibly out of pocket things that 1176 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 7: I won't repeat. But yeah, in any like respectable job 1177 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 7: in America, forget like sports, just anywhere, like publicly saying 1178 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 7: on the record, all the stuff he said today should 1179 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 7: get you fired. 1180 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 5: So with this face, God, yes, you've been lied to. 1181 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 8: He took like three yig bombs then. 1182 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 7: Not on stage, just said the dumbest stuff that anyone's 1183 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 7: ever said. 1184 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 5: He wrote it out too, that. 1185 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,959 Speaker 6: You're gonna be discussed, be disgusted for sure. I gotta 1186 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 6: see that face just imitated it. 1187 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: Just had they just it's every time these guys do 1188 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 4: this fucking like alpha male ship, it's they just have 1189 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 4: this face like you can see that they're picturing what 1190 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 4: they look like. 1191 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 5: On TV, you know what I mean. 1192 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 4: That's like I said, like whether it's he wants to 1193 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 4: be president or he wants to be Joe Rogan or whatever, 1194 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 4: it's just like you can see him like this is 1195 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 4: my moment. 1196 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell the truth. That's so true. It cracks 1197 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 5: the world in half. You're saying, stupid ship. 1198 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 6: What were people in the crowd saying? 1199 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 8: What were they like stunned silence? 1200 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 9: I think mostly oh really it was Yeah, was he 1201 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 9: a kicker there at the school or something? 1202 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 6: Like why did they invite this man? He seems like 1203 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 6: an idiot. 1204 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm looking at I'm doing some I'm doing some Benedictine 1205 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 4: College googling. 1206 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 7: Also, this is a side note, but why you know 1207 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 7: what you're saying, those guys always look like so proud 1208 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 7: of themselves and like he got the dumbest haircut and 1209 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 7: he could he felt really good about it, am I 1210 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 7: tripping are only always sun burnt too. I feel like 1211 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 7: those guys just always are like just like a little 1212 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 7: red and like they're just like they look flushed, but 1213 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,439 Speaker 7: in a way that's like they decided not to wear 1214 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 7: SPF the day before. 1215 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really that deer antler in 1216 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 2: their veins. 1217 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 6: I know what I'm saying that Joe Rogan told them 1218 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 6: to buy You. 1219 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: Feel me got the like the sixteen year old Golden 1220 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: Retriever face, you know when they get old, like they 1221 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: get a little pale around as and shit, that's what 1222 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: they'd be looking like. 1223 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, Jackson just told us what. It's a small Christian 1224 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 7: school in Kansas. 1225 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's possible to some people. 1226 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it was. 1227 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 4: I don't think it was poorly received by Benedictine College. 1228 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 4: But and I'm looking at their oh I'm looking at 1229 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 4: their logo. They put a cross in the letter. 1230 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 8: B that was branding. 1231 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 6: I kind of feel like they might have loved it. 1232 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 5: You know, we get we could get a real froggy 1233 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 5: on Kansas right now. 1234 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 4: This is a city called Atkinson, Kansas, population ten eighty five. 1235 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 4: So here here's so here's what they felt. They felt 1236 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 4: does not register as a statistically significant emotion. That's what 1237 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 4: they felt. 1238 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 7: What was that thing from succession like no real person 1239 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 7: involved or whatever? 1240 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, that's a 1241 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 5: student's two thought. 1242 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 4: Hold on, there's two thousand students and they're calling this 1243 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 4: a college. Bro, that's half as many people as went. 1244 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 5: To my high school. 1245 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 4: Dog Vinnie is going to a middle school with eighteen 1246 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 4: hundred kids next year. 1247 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 5: There's two thousand people at this college. God damn it. 1248 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 5: I feel like now I feel like we got caught 1249 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 5: by the engagement farming. You know what I mean. 1250 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: We are talking right now to more people, like more 1251 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 4: people listening to us. Say this, then go to that college. 1252 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 4: Give us a thirty seven million dollar in down moon, 1253 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,439 Speaker 4: God damn it. All right, Okay, that's all the time 1254 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 4: we got. 1255 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 5: Claire. 1256 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 4: Thank you so much to Claire to Looon for hopping 1257 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 4: on with us again. Tiny desk lipetite di morte, is 1258 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 4: that right? 1259 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1260 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 4: Okay, all on all streaming, sir, I don't know how 1261 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 4: to do French, but on all streaming services. You can 1262 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 4: also find her at Claire mpls on Twitter, where she 1263 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 4: is trapped with the rest of the lunatics, including the 1264 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 4: three hosts of this show. But Claire, thank you so 1265 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 4: much for happing out with us. 1266 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 5: That was awesome for having me this much fun. 1267 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 4: All right, y'all, we will be back at a date 1268 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 4: that we are going to discuss right after we get off, 1269 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 4: and we will see all that. 1270 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 5: Bye bye. The Volume