1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephan 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: I never told you production of I Heart Radio and 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: welcome too. I hope it's been okay for all of 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: you listeners so far. This is our first recording session 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: of Yeah, Happy New Year. Yes, Happy New Year. And 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: in traditional Sminty fashion, we are not starting off in 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: the new year with organizational tips or resolutions. We are 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: going to look at the physical and mental toll the 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: pandemic is having on women. So yeah, I mean it's 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: never ending, so why not it's never ending? Uh? And 11 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something about, you know, being two 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: years into a pandemic almost and seeing all these ads 13 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: for exercising or getting i don't know, getting a bitter 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: shape or eating better and just being like, right, I 15 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: mean essentially with a new variant, I'm like, well, I'm 16 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: still not working out because I will not go to 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: the gym. No, I'm not prepared for this obviously, so 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: I will continue to stay home and just pretend like 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: it's been the last two years. Still. Yes, Yes, And 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: we're you know, big proponents of taking care of yourselves 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: and ourselves. You know. Sometimes I don't write the mark, 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: but you're gonna be talking about. I will say, I 23 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: totally understand there's no real trigger warning. We are going 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: to be talking about mental, mental health, and physical health 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: around all of this, but I totally get if you're 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: tired and don't want to hear it right now. But 27 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: with the caveat that, even though what we're talking about 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily fun, it actually for me at least was 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: kind for relief because I was like, yes that, yes, yeah, 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean you and I talked about this episode before 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: we left to have a kind of a holiday, which 32 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: is hilarious because we don't really do holidays in general 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: time off, but we were like, oh my gosh, there's 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: so many things that I was like, what is wrong 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: with me? What's wrong with my body? And then finding 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: these articles that jump out and you're like, You're not 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: the only one. It makes me feel a lot better. 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping maybe there's a turnaround, or at least I'm 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: not the only one. So when we would see each other, 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the people who are going through the same things as 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been going through the last two years, 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: that's been like my body has changed significantly, What is 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: happening to have that commodity of like, okay, okay, it's 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: not just me. It's cool, cool, cool, cool good to know. Yes, yes, exactly, exactly. 45 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Oh good, this isn't all on my head. So, as 46 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: we have been in this pandemic for a while, we 47 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: have looked at a lot of aspects of it um 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: and how particularly those aspects have impacted women, including domestic violence, 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: childcare jobs, um. And since we have been in this 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: for a while, more research is coming out about the 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: toll that the pandemic is having on women particularly, And 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: we're going to break this down into physical and mental 53 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: health outcomes, but very important to remember the two are 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: closely connected, and we're going to talk about that throughout. 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: And that's actually why I didn't ask a question at 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: the top, Samantic, because I know you and I are 57 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: going to be discussing some of our personal stuff as 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: we go through this. But let's start with some of 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: the physical impacts. So, as I said, we have discussed 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: a few health impacts the pandemic has had and how 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: stress in general can cause negative health outcomes. And I 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: would go out on a limb and say almost all 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: of us are fairly stressed right now. Women are likelier 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: to experience long COVID, for example, as high as eight 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: percent more likely to experience We talked about that a 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: little bit um, and women are likelier to report having 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: more severe reactions to the vaccine. There are a few 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: theories as to why that is, um, including women having 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: higher rates of autoimmune diseases and having more reactive une systems. 70 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Antibody responses are up two times up to two times 71 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: higher for women. On top of this, women are more 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: likely to have gone without health care during the pandemic, 73 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: including preventative care, and are more likely to experience worsening 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: health conditions. Women in fair to poor health are less 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: likely to get recommended test, treatments or prescriptions filled as 76 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: compared to women in good health, probably because they are 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: at a higher risk of contracting a more severe case 78 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen. A part of this is the gender difference. 79 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Um are that it might be a part of it 80 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: because women in general were more likely to seek out 81 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: healthcare pre pandemic, so the drop is larger for them. 82 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: That's us one theory. Anyway, these numbers are worse for 83 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: women of color as well, and insurance and income are 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: key factors to all of this, um, yeah, and I'll 85 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: say I haven't. I kept putting things off, and I 86 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: kept saying, I'll get this checked when the pandemic ends. 87 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: And the pandemic like I look at my might, pretend 88 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: to watch I'm like, oh gosh, still going right. Keep 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: Last year, you and I were like do we go 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: to get a physical to lessen our premium or do 91 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: we just risk it? And we risk it because we 92 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, I guess we will have to pay 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: out a pocket which sucks, especially because yes, for anyone 94 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: all this wellness thing, come on, that's a whole different conversation, 95 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 1: but in that level of yeah, but is it worth 96 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: going to a very high risk area. Yes for some 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: and as unfortunate and I hate that. I hate this 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: whole system, as we've talked about before. But for us, 99 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: we were like, Okay, well, I guess we're just gonna 100 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: have to eat it and then also never go see 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: a doctor again because what if we get an infection? 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: In general, yeah, yeah, which is not not a great 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: situation to be in at all. Studies have also found 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: that more and more women are dolaying getting birth control, 105 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: or that they're reporting that they don't have access to it. 106 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: We discussed this in a past episode and how it's 107 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: a problem worldwide and has caused an increase in unwanted 108 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: pregnancies in the millions. Um STI Stilbur's maternal death and 109 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: maternal depression. Other research found changes in menstrual periods like 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: delayed periods, um more symptoms with periods, and heavier flow, 111 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: which does impact health and wellness. Experts think that this 112 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: is due to the stress of the pandemic. One survey 113 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: found sixty one of Americans experience unwanted weight changes during 114 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: the pandemic, which also impacts health. Alcohol related hospital emissions 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: have skyrocketed during this pandemic as well. About one in 116 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: four Americans reported drinking more alcohol to cope with pandemic stress. Specifically, 117 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: that number is even higher for parents of early elementary 118 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: school students at fifty and this jump has been larger 119 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: for women in general. And I know um past hosted 120 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: an episode on women drinking more during the previous president's 121 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: presidency and it was how to name it was like 122 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: patriarchy stress disorder. Oh yeah, we talked about well, we 123 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: talked about voting stress disorder. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, 124 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: that's interesting because absolutely I can absolutely see why this 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: is happening in this whole level of coping mechanism and 126 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: having that taken away from you, whether it's being able 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: to leave the house or being able to have kids 128 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: go to school, or being able to do happy things. 129 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: And so if you're stuck and you're thinking what else 130 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: can I do? But oh, great, that's a glass of wine? 131 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Let me have that? Yeah, exactly. And I know, um, 132 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: I've seen this is one of the interesting I won't 133 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: call it a perk, but it's the only word coming 134 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: to mind. Perks of the job is are you research 135 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: something and then Google thinks you're into that your problem? Yes? 136 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: And I know I saw a lot of articles popping 137 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: up in my news feed from moms who were really 138 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: connecting to Miranda's storyline with alcohol on and just like 139 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: that sex in the city. Um, so I was like, 140 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: huh interesting. Yeah, we'll have to come back to that 141 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: because there's been a back and forth about whether it's 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: problematic the portrayal or whether it was two on the nose. 143 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering because I haven't watched that episode yet. Okay, yes, 144 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: that's all I'll say. Um. And another thing, one recent 145 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: study making headlines found that Americans blood pressure has risen 146 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: significantly during the pandemic, especially for women. Experts again think 147 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: this is because of the outsized burden the pandemic is 148 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: having on women, though they do note it's not so 149 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: much weight gain or chronic stress that are likely the culprits, 150 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: but diet, sleep, not taking the proper medication, and drug 151 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: and alcohol abuse. With the caveat that chronic stress cannon 152 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: often does impact all of those things. A Canadian study 153 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: of more than twenty eight thousand women found that women 154 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: with low SO participation or who were alone during the 155 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: pandemic were at a higher risk of having high blood pressure. Interestingly, 156 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: the result was the opposite for men. That's interesting. I 157 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: know I would have not thought of that. I recently 158 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Annie went and got my physical because yes, well, I 159 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I can't afford the higher costs, 160 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: so let me go do this. UM and I went 161 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: and got my blood pressure checked. We were talking about 162 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: the holidays, and we were talking about everything that's happened, 163 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the nurse or the medical 164 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: systemt I can't remember, was like, as she was looking 165 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: at my blood pressure and the number she's like, we 166 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: need to redo that. I was like what. She was like, 167 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: I think you need to stop talking, and I was 168 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: like what. And it turned out the numbers that were 169 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: showing were showing that she would have had to sent 170 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: me into the hospital had that came back up again. 171 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh wow, I have never had 172 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: high blood pressure ever in my life. And then all 173 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden it went to the point that she 174 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: was like, we need to remeasure this. So it was 175 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: really interesting to see it was still higher than I've 176 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: ever had it, but it was healthier and like, okay, 177 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: you're okay. When I stopped talking about my holiday plan, yes, 178 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: so I was like, well, damn, okay. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, 179 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: this is of the health effects I've noticed during the pandemic. 180 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: For me, my heart races. It races all the time, 181 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and I feel like I can't breathe normally, like I 182 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: have to think to breathe. It's all just suddenly gasp. 183 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: So that's been I haven't gotten my blood pressure checked. 184 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm just assuming it's pretty high, but my heart does 185 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: race and it makes me really lightheaded. Uh, and this 186 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: kind of it wasn't great for my heart either. Learning this, 187 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: but having higher blood pressure increases the risk of stroke 188 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: and heart attack to the leading causes of death in 189 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the US. Stud women found that women with high job strain, 190 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: high stressful life events, and high social strain were very 191 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: highly asociated with greater risk of heart attack and there 192 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: was a increase of this risk. Early data suggest that 193 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: during the pandemic, women are at a greater risk for 194 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: heart disease. That's not great and the signs are different 195 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: for women, and so people can't recognize her because it 196 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: is also a lot of misinformation when it comes to 197 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: signs of a heart attack. My mother was a victim 198 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: of that, and the doctor would not listen when he 199 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: was like, my jawline hurts. I don't understand. Was sit home, 200 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: went back again because it wouldn't stop, and then she 201 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: had no chest pains at the time, but she's like 202 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: getting dizzy and my jaw hurts. Her main artery was 203 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: clogged to the point that they're like, this is the 204 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: widow maker. You almost died and had to have a 205 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: major surgery immediately. Was she was properly diagnosed, but had 206 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: been having having symptoms for like a week, and no 207 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: one listened to her because it did not seem like 208 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: the normal signs. Yeah, I'm still very angry about this, 209 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: but anywhere should be. She's okay, she's okay, But it 210 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: took that long for someone to figure out what's going on, 211 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: And honestly, it educated me and be like, okay, yeah, 212 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: it's her heart risk. Different guys should have known, right. Ah. 213 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: So another thing making the news and making me there's 214 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: my mind a little bit is the pandemic related hair loss, 215 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: especially for women. And yeah, there's been tons of articles 216 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: about this. So thousands of people, if not more, have 217 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: experienced hair loss during the pandemic that experts believe pandemic 218 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: stress has cost a lot of as well as post 219 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: viral inflammation caused by COVID nineteen also the stress of 220 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: having COVID. I haven't had COVID so far that I've known. 221 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: Every time I've tested it's been negative. But I have 222 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: had a large amount of hair loss to the point 223 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: that I have panicked and started like googling, what do 224 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: I do? Clumps of it? Y'all is bad. So in 225 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: the first year of the pandemic, a Google searches, including 226 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: from me, for hair loss increased eight percent, with an 227 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: average of eight hundred twenty nine thousand a month in 228 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: the US, and Alissa Melana posted about it, so you 229 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: know celebrities are going through this too, Okay. Temporary hair 230 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: loss related to stress or illness is called intelligent effluvium 231 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: that push his hair into the shedding face more quickly 232 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: than the hair's life cycle. Due to the shock, the 233 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: body shuts down processes not necessary for survival like this 234 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: one because of the cycle. It could be confusing because 235 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the event that costs that might have happened several months ago, right, 236 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: it usually resolves itself within six months. Nope, And that's 237 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: important to note. With a lot of things we're talking about, 238 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: they are versible. I will say, and we should do 239 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: an episode. I think have we done an episode? Has 240 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: there been an episode about women in hair loss? I 241 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: believe so, But I think we should come back and 242 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: and talk about and talk about it again, just because 243 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: there is so much stigma around it and like this 244 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: fear and this panic. Yes. And I will say, as 245 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: an Asian woman growing up where my one identifier is 246 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: my race that includes uh, my ethnicity, being like black hair, 247 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: all of that, one of the things I got the 248 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: most compliments on and growing up was my thick black hair, 249 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: and that was one of my prouder personality traits, I 250 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: guess for me when I was ashamed to be Asian. 251 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: But you know, people love my hair and I was like, okay, cool, 252 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: that's something I can be proud of. And all of 253 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, it feels like it's being taken away from me. 254 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: That's a whole different conversation. And that's part of the 255 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: stigma that we do want to readdress because also we 256 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: know that aging causes hair loss too, and it's okay, 257 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be okay without panicking, but I definitely 258 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: still panicking anyway. So hair loss is generally more associated 259 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: with men, but telligent if flu the them is more 260 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: common among women, especially after childbirth. I have heard this, 261 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: but any type of stress can set it off, and 262 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the pandemic has been more stressful for women and women 263 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: of color, a point that keeps coming up over and 264 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: over again with all of this, and again this also 265 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: has something to do with economically socially, who is being 266 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: impacted by COVID and the pandemic, and we know that 267 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: it is women of color specifically, So there are articles 268 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: out there about how to tackle this. If it's something 269 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: you're experiencing. But check your sources and do your research 270 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: because a lot of companies are cashing in on this 271 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: and you' all the amount of ads because I googled 272 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: it that I get that seems so ridiculous and sometimes 273 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: to still buy into it. But still there's a lot 274 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: of bad information, a lot, a lot, a lot, a 275 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: lot um and experts recommend seeing a professional who specializes 276 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: in hair and hair loss. Also, stigma around hair loss 277 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: is a whole thing again we want to come back 278 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: to because it is it's very upsetting for a lot 279 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: of fols. And like I said, for the longest time, 280 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: I pinned my confidence on my hair because that's a 281 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: little little that I had. Literally, I was a chubby 282 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: Asian girl, uh, living in a very white rural area. 283 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: So the one thing that I felt like I had 284 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: also attaining abilities, which is what I was so proud 285 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: of the longest time, and then growing up and feeling 286 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: like I had to make it like an effort to 287 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: become more confident. My hair was always a part of that, 288 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: and losing it it feels, yeah, yeah, it feels like 289 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm being stripped a little bit of my own personality. 290 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: And that, and it's a shame that that's the case 291 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: for anything, obviously, especially when it comes to physical looks. 292 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: But because we were taught so much that this does 293 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: matter when you lose it, not because something that's of course, 294 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: the amount of stress that piles on top of back, 295 00:16:53,000 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: like stress, it's getting worse. I don't know this, yes, yes, 296 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean there's so much to talk about with women's hair, 297 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of people echoed what you're saying, Samantha, like, 298 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's such a big part of me. Um, 299 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: and then we have all of that cultural baggage around, 300 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, youth and fertility with thick, long hair usually um. 301 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: And I do think it's really interesting. This is a 302 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: kind of a separate conversation, but just to drive the 303 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: point at home that this is such a big thing. 304 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that when a celebrity like cuts 305 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: their hair, a female celebrity, what did she do? Well? Yeah, 306 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: people lose their mind, have so many opinions and then 307 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: feel like they can have those opinions as if they 308 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: are facts and then discredit someone for it. Specifically, like 309 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: think about Felicity the show Carrie Russell, she had the 310 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: long curly locks. Uh, and then she cut it off. 311 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: Everybody lost their mind. I think this is a little 312 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: before your you know, your time, Annie, But I remember 313 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: the amount criticism that was plastered in teen magazine The 314 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Shame Factor, and I was like, wow, really her hair 315 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: goes back. I don't understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I 316 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: think there's also uh again, as far as I know, 317 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: I haven't experienced this, but I totally get why. It's 318 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: very stressful, very panic inducing. But also just be careful 319 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's kind of verging on. I 320 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: guess able is um. But you know, the people who 321 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: get sick and have like chemos there, right, um lose hair. 322 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: So just you know, always keep those kinds of things 323 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: in mind. I mean, yeah, things like that in Alpecia 324 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: and everybody just really going in for the jokes. It's 325 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: it's really cruel in itself because you don't know what 326 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: people are going through. Joan Rivers made a criticism of 327 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: an actress for wearing a hat and hating her whole 328 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: outfit and talking about how her hair. I can't remember 329 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: if she was wearing a wig or if she had 330 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: actually was going bald, but it went after her and 331 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: turned out she had gone through severe chemo treatments and 332 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: had lost her hair, and like, I think she actually apologized, 333 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: but the headlines that it made I still remember to 334 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: this day because it was just like, oh my god, 335 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: calm down, you don't know what this is about. And 336 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: the woman really like had a meltdown and and and 337 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: finally came out. I was like, hey, I was trying 338 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: not to say anything. I was trying to live my life, 339 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: but you're doing this and putting me on blasts and yeah, 340 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: it is absolutely able ism, and everything about that is 341 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: Again we talked about the role of hair. We've talked 342 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: about the level of personal space that people think that 343 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: they can push, like touching. I've had so many people 344 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: touch my hair and all sometimes if I know you, 345 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: it's fine. I've had complete strangers come through and put 346 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: their hand and like pull all my hair and I'm like, 347 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And then when I would cut it, 348 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: instead of saying oh, well you've got a haircut in 349 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: the story or not even acknowledge it, being like, oh 350 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: your beautiful hair. What you do? Yes? So yeah, definitely 351 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: something bigger that we need to come back about, Yeah, 352 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: for sure, But to up up this kind of physical 353 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: impact of pandemic section. We've got to kind of grab 354 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: bag a few random things that I was interested in. 355 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: We couldn't find too much data that shows they necessarily 356 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: impact women more, but it's definitely impacting women. UM. One 357 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: area is teeth. Numbers from the American Dental Association found 358 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: dentists across the country reported a rise in bruxism or 359 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: teeth grinding our clenching in their patients during the pandemic, 360 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: which can lead to temporo mandibular disorder. And I put 361 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: that in there. I knew I was going to struggle 362 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: with pronunciation if I didn't push it entirely. UM which 363 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: is a disorder with symptoms like jock clicking, pain and headaches, 364 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: and it's also on the rise during the pandemic, according 365 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: to six of these dentists. They also reported a rise 366 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: in chipped or cracked teeth as well from grinding. And 367 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: I I've always had a problem with my jaw is 368 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: not properly aligned, so I have a lot of job 369 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: pain and a lot of like clicking, and I have 370 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: been grinding my teeth. My jaw hurts. It hurts every 371 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: day because I'm just so tense oh yeah. Well on 372 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: top of that, Yeah, I have found myself clinching and 373 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't realize I'm clinching um to the point until 374 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: I feel the temple of my head like hurting him, 375 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: like why what's happening, um, and not realizing that I've 376 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: done that. I've also clinching to the point that I 377 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: bite my cheek and I don't realize it. But there 378 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: is a permanent, like scar tissue that I can feel 379 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: right now as I'm talking to you, And I was like, oh, 380 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: that's fun. Um. But even on top of that, I 381 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: have really bad teeth, literally have an enamel deficiency which 382 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: costs thousands and thousands of dollars. When I came in 383 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: from the u S, I just started pulling teeth. They're like, yeah, 384 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: this is bad. And I was told that I would 385 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: need to like cap all of my teeth at eighteen, 386 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: and I didn't because nobody could afford and my parents 387 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: cutting eye cuttn't. But with that, because of the pandemic, 388 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going to a dentist and I've 389 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: had so many like different points of pain in my mouth, um, 390 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: and I'm no, it's dangerous, and I'm sure people are 391 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: gonna be like, what are you doing? Trying to do 392 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: home remedies. I'm like, Listenerina is my friend, which I know, 393 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: I know, don't go win, but I try to kill 394 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: out any of the bad germs. But yeah, part of 395 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: that is me. Yes, I hate the dinnist, but be like, 396 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: even though I know I need to go, Like do 397 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: I want to risk yeah again going into a high 398 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: high risk area to get the stud even though I 399 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: know it's important. Yeah, yeah, no, same, And it's I 400 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: hate it because I know a lot of people, a 401 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: lot of people listeners are in the same boat. And 402 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to pay for this later. It's 403 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna be so bad. It's going to be worse than 404 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: if I had gone. But I'm also yeah, I'm just 405 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: afraid to go. And it hurts every day. It hurts 406 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: right now. Um. Also, gastro intestinal and skin conditions have worsened. 407 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: There's been an increase in reports of tendon strains and 408 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: plants are fasciitis. My mom just was dealing with this. 409 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: I had to buy new socks because I've been in 410 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: so much pain. Oh no, I'm sorry, I don't mean 411 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: to laugh, but I wasn't expecting socks. Look, there are 412 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: things that you can buy that helps to compress the hill, 413 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: and it has been a godsend because I've been taping 414 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: it up. But just like it hurts worse weirdly enough 415 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: in tennis shoes because of the way my hill hits. 416 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: But when I try to go back to work out, 417 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: I had to stop again because the pole. And I 418 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know it was a name, you 419 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: know when you started googling symptoms and you're like plant 420 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: or fasts, Like great, let's add that to the ailments. Yes, yes, um, 421 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: it's still fun. I've I've had it, and I still 422 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: have my knee runners knee, and it makes me unger 423 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: because I'm not running anymore. But um. Some people have 424 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: reported foot spread, um, and that their shoes no longer fit. 425 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: Some experts say that that might be more likely that 426 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: they never really fit in the first place, and we're 427 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: just used to being uncomfortable and now we're like, what 428 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: is this? Can we talk about why we really find 429 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: that for so many that slim feet are supposed to 430 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: be the thing, because I have very very very very 431 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: wide feet, Like to the point that one person was like, 432 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: I think you did in the d width and I 433 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: was like, how dare you? I would never felt really 434 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: insulted by it, which is not an insult, but yeah, 435 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: it is like a standard of beauty to have small 436 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: slender feet for women obviously is the opposite. They have 437 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: to be bigger. And you're like, why is this a 438 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: beauty standard its feet? It's it's definitely a feminine indicator, 439 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: like small feet that should be women big feet. I adapt, Um, Well, 440 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: going back to that planet cyar fascist thing, I should say, um, 441 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: they experts think that's because we're walking around and flams 442 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: your foot where our barefoot more often. Um. Also to 443 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: expe on on that skin condition point, it's pretty much 444 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: every skin condition, including acne, which I have seen much 445 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: worst I needed. But they did say, like masskne, it's 446 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: not really a thing. It's more we're stressed again or 447 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: just not up keeping ourselves as much or you know, 448 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: sheets because that's been shown to right, and I'm definitely 449 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: doing a laundry way less now than I was. Right. Also, 450 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: f y, I feel you're reusing the same mask and 451 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: not cleaning it not necessarily that won't necessarily affect skin. 452 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not professional, but it definitely not 453 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: good for your skin. Also not effective, but yeah, also 454 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: usually stinks after a while, so watch those masks. I 455 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: had one mass that smelled like coffee because it's sat 456 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: next to a candle for so long. Is that smelled 457 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: like coffee? So I was like, what is happening? Yeah? 458 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: Well I had that one that smelled like garlic, and 459 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: you were you were there for that. That was funny. 460 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, I've made a mistake. I 461 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: love garlic, but I don't want this. While there have 462 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: been no specific studies about the pandemic on this one 463 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: that we could find, chronic stress has been linked to 464 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: the physical shrinking of the hippocampus, which is part of 465 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: the brain integral with memory and learning. UM and that 466 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: did come up in a lot of articles I read 467 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: about how people think this is impacting our bodies. That 468 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: is reversible. But they were saying because a lot of 469 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: people have also reported difficulty concentrating, are you know, remembering things? 470 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: But that's also stress can be a part of that 471 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: and not getting great sleep, and they called it left 472 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: COVID fog. Covid fog. Yeah, another thing. More people are 473 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: experiencing things like arthritis and carpal tunnel. And I was 474 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: telling Samantha on my hands, like lock up now. And 475 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: that's also because we're at our computers or devices all 476 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: the time, and all that screen time is giving us 477 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: drier eyes and blurrier vision, two which I have experienced. 478 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: And I'm glad. I was very glad to know this 479 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: because I was I was thinking, my lasic is given out. 480 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? I'm not a sponsor, but 481 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: that is true, um, and many of us are. Because 482 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: you like to sponsor me, I would be glass take it. 483 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: It was nice. And many of us are experiencing an 484 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: increase in back and nickpain. Oh yes, yes, yes, it's true. UM. 485 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know about you. I have been glued 486 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: to my phone to the point that I'm like, hey, 487 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: what is wrong with you, Samantha, put the phone down, 488 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: and I've had to put a timer on TikTok essentially 489 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: so it'll stop me. Does it stop me? Not all 490 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: the time, but it makes me think. But because of this, yes, 491 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: my eyes get blurry or it gets really dry, or 492 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: it feels fuzzy, and I get really tired, which I 493 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: know has been a thing with screen time. We've been 494 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: talking about it for years. Um, but to the point 495 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: that I'm like, hey, Samantha, you're already depressive as well 496 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: as sleepy all the time. Maybe not the best route 497 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, and I know you're not the only 498 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: one with that either, especially TikTok minus fan fiction. Yours 499 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: is TikTok still show with me. Let's move into the 500 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: mental health birth. Yeah. Now that we've established all the 501 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: physical impact stress can have on our bodies, and then 502 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: there's probably a lot more that we haven't even dug into, 503 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: let's dig into the mental health aspect of this conversation 504 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: a bit more. Yes. So. At the beginning of the pandemic, 505 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: multiple studies found that American women experienced increased health related 506 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: socio economic risk or h r s rs like food 507 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: and security, housing instability, transportation challenges, and domestic violence, which 508 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: was associated with quote alarmingly high rates of mental health 509 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: problems like depression or anxiety, and or harmful coping mechan 510 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: is ms like alcohol or drug abuse. And we've talked 511 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: about a lot of this through this. A survey conducted 512 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: in April found that of the three thousand two women 513 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: participating had experienced at least one h R s R 514 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: in the past year as compared to prior to the pandemic. 515 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: Nearly half of the women reported experiencing a new or 516 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: worsening h R s R since the pandemic started. Reported 517 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: symptoms of anxiety and or depression, almost twice the estimated 518 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: national average for women pre pandemic. One in six displayed 519 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: symptoms of PTSD. Other researchers found that women have experienced 520 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: higher rates of insomnia and other sleep issues. And yes, yes, yes, right, 521 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: these studies are found in the US, right, M yeah, 522 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I wonder what these numbers are internationally. Don't get me wrong, 523 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: because the US doesn't have great numbers anyway outside of 524 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: the pandemic when it comes to women, and all of 525 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: these UH alarming risks, because there's tons of it in 526 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: the US, does not do much for the lower economics 527 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: social status. We know this UM and the divide is huge. 528 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: But when we're talking about internationally, when we talk about 529 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: the small stils that have happened in different UH countries, 530 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: we know that the numbers were higher than the U S. 531 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what those numbers look like now, especially 532 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: since they've been diverting. The numbers that that diverting the 533 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: funds two different areas. So I'm really scared to find 534 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: out those numbers because it's getting worse and worse, and 535 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: they're having a harder time getting accurate numbers again because 536 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: they don't have access to these communities and or the 537 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: communities don't have access to give this information. So but 538 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: since then, several studies have been have backed this up 539 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: again and found that the pandemic has had an outsized 540 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: impact on women's mental health as compared to men's cares 541 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: Rapid Gender Analysis, a survey of thirty eight countries conducted 542 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: in one found that three times as many women reported 543 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: a negative mental health impact compared to men. Those always 544 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: keeping in mind that depends on people reporting it, because 545 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: we also know the more likely that women are going 546 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: to be the ones responding as well as more honest, 547 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: because we know that mental health is somewhat somehow feminized, 548 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: uh and weaponized in gender is odd. We don't know why, 549 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: we do know why, but it's such a sad thing 550 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: that we talked about self care episode recently, right, yeah, so, 551 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: but you know, twenty one of women reported increased stressed 552 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: anxiety and or other mental health struggles and again, like 553 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: I said, yes, it's based on who is reporting, who's 554 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: being honest, who's actually taken the time to fill hew 555 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: these reports. That's another part um, as well as the 556 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: fact that, yeah, a lot of the workload has but 557 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: labor load has been placed on women as well. So yeah, 558 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and we're being pretty general here, but you 559 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: can find breakdowns of specifically like for health care workers 560 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: or for people who work at grocery stores. You can 561 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: find really specific umbers. I mean, we don't have a 562 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: lot of them because, um, while it does feel like 563 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: we've been in this for decades now, two years is 564 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: not that long the time to gather data, but there is, 565 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: there have been people looking into it. It does exist, 566 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: just not a lot. Also, newly being said, what was 567 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: once essential workers and giving things have been suddenly called 568 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: low skill workers. Uh. And it has a lot to 569 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: do with the great resignation, I think in part as 570 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: well as we'll talk a little bit about the unions 571 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: and strikes that are happening all across across the country, 572 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: because there this has obviously shown the lack of respect 573 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: and humanity given to essential workers as well as just 574 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: most workers, but those who are on the lower pay skill. 575 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: It says a lot. Oh, yeah, it does. According to 576 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: some numbers, thirty of women have experienced moderate to severe 577 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: depression during the pandemic, as compared to nineteen percent of men. 578 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: Twenty seven percent of women have experienced moderate to severe 579 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: stress compared to ten percent of men. Seven percent of 580 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: women aged eighteen to twenty four reported experiencing suicidal thoughts 581 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: compared to seventeen percent of men, and women were more 582 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: likely to report feelings of nervousness, loneliness, and that everything 583 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: was an effort. Fifty percent of women reported that the 584 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: pandemic has had a negative impact on their mental health 585 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: compared to thirty seven percent of men, and those numbers 586 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: are worse when it comes to women with children under eighteen. 587 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: I fill those numbers of my soul. Recent studies into 588 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: the mental health impact of the pandemic on pregnant and 589 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: lactating women painted a similar picture, and experts warned that 590 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: this could lead to increased rates of postpardon depression and 591 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: prenatal infection and illness. Yeah, and there there was a 592 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: lot of interesting studies on on pregnant women during all 593 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: of this because, as we've discussed before, uh, there's a 594 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: lot of medical trials or service studies can't be done 595 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: on pregnant women, and because of that, it's not good. 596 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: It's not good in a lot of things. Um but anyway, 597 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: one stud he found that older women with a history 598 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: of intimate partner violence and or childhood abuse experience significantly 599 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: greater rates of depression, anxiety, and sleep disorders during the pandemic. 600 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: The researchers were specifically looking at how a history of 601 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: trauma impacted negative health outcomes of COVID nineteen. Since again, 602 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: women are more impacted by intimate partner violence and trauma, 603 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: this is another way this is impacting women disproportionately, and 604 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: women typically report higher levels of empathy, which researchers think 605 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: is contributing to higher rates of negative mental health outcomes 606 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. One that he found that higher rates 607 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: of empathy were associated with higher rates of depression, anxiety, 608 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: and trauma. And you and I were talking about that recently, Yes, 609 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: we did, and we we did a little episode about 610 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: like everything filling overwhelming anyways and coming back into the 611 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: reality of like what is this? Um but yeah, that 612 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: that you and I had this conversation about you know, 613 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: if you're really an impact. It's really hard because you 614 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: don't know why. But when you hear the trauma going 615 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: on to someone you love and or anything around, it 616 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: breaks you. Um And that's part of being empathetic in itself. 617 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: And we're not trying to be catching and saying we're impacts. 618 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: That's a whole different conversation, but being pathetic and understanding 619 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: what is happening and just knowing that it resonates because 620 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: you know trauma, that in itself has brought me to 621 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: a whole new point of like I give off, which 622 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: we've both talked about, because there is no there's no 623 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: way to rest from that, especially in times of continued trauma, 624 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: and we've seen it for a long while now, and 625 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: because we also have access to social media, seeing that 626 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: in the first firsthand account from that view is a 627 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: whole different conversation too. Yeah, And for a lot of 628 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: these surveys, they referenced other um traumatic of events, like 629 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: they a lot of people talked about stars and there 630 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: we studies around that and the stress of stars and 631 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: what happened because of that, and then um weather events 632 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: like Katrina September eleven. But for a lot of us, 633 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, Katrina. If you're in it, that's cute stress 634 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: and ongoing chronic stress. But if you're not in it, 635 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a cute stress where it's one 636 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: and done, whereas this pandemic is continually chronic for everybody. 637 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Um So it's kind of a new It was just 638 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: interesting to like they were like, we have this data 639 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: from stars, but stars didn't do this. No, yeah, we 640 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: don't see this political level that has brought this huge divide, 641 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: which really has brought on a whole new stress. And 642 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: we've talked about that in itself and what that looks like, 643 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: especially if it brings up your family. Yeah, that's stressful. 644 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: Stressful anyway. So another piece of this is um as 645 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: we moved to tell health, which in many ways is great, 646 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: we have to remember not everyone has access to that, 647 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: and since women are experiencing these physical and mental impacts 648 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: at a higher rate, that also impacts us more. Yeah. 649 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: As beautiful as this is, again, who has access to it? 650 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: Who has an ability to get to it? Um This 651 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: is expounded by the closing of in person services one 652 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: the Alfred Hospital reported a two thousand, eight hund increase 653 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: in demand the women's mental health clinic. Yeah, so I 654 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: mean it's also a staffing issue at that point, because yeah, yes, 655 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: and also, as we said, women make up a majority 656 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: of yes, the essential workers, and that has had significant 657 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: impact on mental health. And you know, on top of that, 658 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: we keep seeing this thread of children but also taking 659 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: up that extra child care um or taking just in 660 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: general taking care of the house. Because we've talked about 661 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: that a lot, that the still skewed towards women do 662 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: much of that work. And yes, a lot of us 663 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: have experienced loss during this pandemic. I've allowed to want 664 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: to pet a job normalcy whatever it is, um, and 665 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: that's impacting our mental health too, write um And just 666 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of going back to the essential workers, it's not 667 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: even adding on to the fact of the privileged slash 668 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: entitled customers who come through to make them to torture people. 669 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: Since it's what I see, whether it's the new and 670 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: I know it's not a lot, but there's plenty of 671 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: the conspiracy theorists who are anti maskers coming in purposefully 672 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: trying to rile up. And there's nothing that an employee 673 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: can do, essentially like causing this ruckus to make themselves 674 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: look like they're politically fighting. I can't imagine being in 675 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: customer service right now, just working as a bartender for 676 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: a little while and having drunk people to deal with, 677 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: having drunk, entitled people who really think they're making a 678 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: statement and they're making a move. I don't get it. 679 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand. And then again, like I said, when 680 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: we talk about all of a sudden, they're being referenced 681 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: as low skilled workers. And I know that was out 682 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: of one context of conversation, but it was a big 683 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: conversation because again when we see things like the Build 684 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: Back Better pet plan was halted again, and part of 685 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: that was that they didn't want to do living wages 686 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: because is it Munchen who said, uh that he thinks 687 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna waste it on drugs? Oh much? I can't remember. 688 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: We're talking about different person. I think that's funny. Are 689 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: you talking about too many? A different guy? But yeah, 690 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: he literally supposedly said that he wasn't in support of 691 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: it because he thinks that these essential workers who are 692 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: living barely on minimum wage shouldn't get raised because they 693 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: might expend it on drugs. Racist. Racist, So I'm just 694 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna I really didn't did think his name was munched, 695 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: and I'm to leave it at that. You know, I 696 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: support you. Sorry. The bigger piece of this conversation is 697 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: the fact that we as a country and and even 698 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: most of the world don't fund mental health care resources 699 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: and don't place it as a priority. Yeah, so that's 700 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: one of the first things to go when it comes 701 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: to budgeting. The U N and World Health Organizations have 702 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: found that for mental to low income families, mental health 703 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: accounts for one point six percent of all the household 704 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: healthcare budget. That study from the four found only of 705 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: those who reported negative mental health outcomes due to the 706 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: pandemic sought out mental health care. Though of course access 707 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: again is a big part of that. And like I said, 708 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: that's one of the first things that's probably cut. That's 709 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: what was happening essentially all around the world when it 710 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: comes that in uh, women reproductive race, well, when into 711 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: the protective rise, that's already a fight, like even but 712 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: it is good, but like women's safety is immediately cut 713 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: as we've seen. Yeah, and I think from my experience 714 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: as an American, it's insurance. I didn't even know you 715 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: could get that covered, and it's so expensive without insurance. Um, 716 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: so I think that people are getting more aware of that, 717 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: but it's still, yeah, I can totally see why the 718 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: number is so so low, right, And of course we're 719 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: talking about things being cut, we should also go ahead 720 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: and mention things being cut for people in the LGBTQ, 721 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: people of color, any services that are not deemed essential. 722 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: And when I stay essential, it's essentially I don't even 723 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: because child care is not a part of that. Held again, 724 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: is not really a part of that. Food is barely 725 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: a part of that. So uh guess, yeah, there's definitely essential. 726 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: You just don't get it. Sorry, just make do and 727 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: don't come plain about it. And uh, self care, we've 728 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: talked about a lot before, is one of the first 729 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: things that goes for a lot of us. But it 730 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: is important to remember that mental health is more than 731 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: just therapy. Um. And I say this because I read 732 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially mothers, who were saying, like, 733 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: I can't it's the first thing on my list that 734 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: goes because I have to do all this other stuff. 735 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: And I totally get that, but I think it is 736 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: important to remember, you know, there are other things you 737 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: can try to carve out, even just a little bit, 738 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: to try to help me your mental your mental health. 739 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: And also I wanted to add in here because it 740 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of made me laugh. Many articles recommended the things 741 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: we've all heard before, mindfulness, taking time for yourself, exercise, 742 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: but it's all with the caveat that there's a reason 743 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of us have stopped doing those things or 744 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: struggle with those things right now. And one of my 745 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: favorite was it was like, if you're too afraid to 746 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: go outside, which I generally am, go on a walk 747 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: in your house. And I was like, well, if seen second, tash, 748 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: I'll be done with my walk. Your entire bedroom is 749 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: like a mattress that you can't get past, so that 750 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: even cuts one room out. Yeah. Absolutely, that made me laugh. 751 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: I get what they're saying, but you just doing back 752 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: and for a loop over again, Like all of these 753 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: things are nice and thought, but if you're a parent 754 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: of one, two, three, four, five, six, eight children, yea, 755 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: you you really don't have privacy. Like you can try 756 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: to lock yourself in the bathroom, but eventually someone's gonna 757 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: come pounding, most likely if you're at home and you 758 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: have been stay at home mom um and then everybody's 759 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: there demanding was already a full time job without people 760 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: demanding I can't imagine that level. But again, so either way, 761 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: you're doing double duty and with the expectation that you 762 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: should be doing these things on top of it, and 763 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: that's really gross in every way. I would hope that 764 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: you have a really equal relationship where you can divide. 765 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: That would be the dream, but even that is stressful. 766 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um, and I mean we're talking about this 767 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: as you know, big cities across the country suddenly announced 768 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: like we're going back to virtual schooling. Uh. It's just 769 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: totally chaotic. People trying to figure out these childcare things, um, 770 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: which is expensive. But also yes, there is this great 771 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: resignation of people quitting, so it's a lot in our bodies, 772 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: in our minds are suffering for it. Um And I 773 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I said, it made me feel better 774 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: to know, but it is. It also scared me because 775 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna have I knew it 776 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: was not great and it's going to have an impact, 777 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: but it's really going to have an impact, right. I 778 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: mean I really would like to see the differences in 779 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: which the countries are supporting citizen's instead of just saying 780 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: may do figure out. Yeah. Essentially with the stimulus is 781 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: and the different the stimulus is stimuli, the stimist. I'm 782 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna call it the stimies because I don't know what 783 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: else to call it. Um but essentially financial support, which 784 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: we had what two checks, three checks, and it depended 785 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: a lot of facts. Better to pay your taxes if 786 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: you didn't pay before, and if you're in a serving job, 787 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: you probably had to pay back taxes at which you 788 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: can't afford to pay back because hey, service industry is 789 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: really hard and you don't make a lot of money 790 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: off of it. And then when you get shut down 791 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: completely and you're at a at will state with no 792 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: unionization or any opportunity to do so, you're really screwed. 793 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: So the level of downward spiral we're having and people 794 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: thinking it's okay is absurd, uh absurd, And I know, 795 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: I feel like when we have somewhat stabilized with all 796 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: the vaccines and people finally whatever happens happens, and just 797 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: having to resign to the fact whether this is our 798 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: life for the rest of our lives and going on 799 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: with it and or having a solution and actual solution. 800 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: I would like to see what happens and who that 801 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: came out on top because it's not a competition. But 802 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: who came out Okay, yeah, I mean that's when who 803 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: knows when we will revisit this, Samantha, but that will 804 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: be interesting. And um, I also wanted to throw in 805 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: here before we wrap up because I forgot to mention it. 806 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: But this is also something I've been experiencing headaches. Increase 807 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 1: in headaches they have found, uh yeah, and especially because 808 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: I get migraines, but I usually want to get them 809 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: like two to four times a year. Um. I think 810 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: last year I had at least eight, uh and I 811 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: have I have one right now. And so, you know, 812 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: awesome related to your jaw and a lot of stuff 813 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about, but just another thing to add on there. 814 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: Mine has everything to do with my vision. And I 815 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: don't call my migraines because it doesn't I don't know. 816 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that severe, but it's pretty severe. Yeah, 817 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, a bad headache is no joke no matter what. 818 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: Do you wake up every morning with a headache. I 819 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: wake up every morning with a headache. Can someone tell 820 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: me about that? I guess we have to research a 821 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: he know, we want to help me. 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