WEBVTT - BONUS EP: Conversations About Decisions (Dre or Pac?)

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sellings Podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses, Malone, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can see you then putting no phone up in that room.

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<v Speaker 2>Still it's phone across from me. What do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would I have phone behind me?

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<v Speaker 3>Because because I can still hear the echo.

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear the echo on your shit too.

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<v Speaker 1>No you can't, Yes, Igain, that's just this Sony C

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred microphone that I do my podcast on it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a level of clarity that you don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't heard such clarity feel me through a podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>What's crazy is now? My podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Now No Sellans Pete is finally gonna go top twenty

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<v Speaker 1>because we're investing into the quality of sound.

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<v Speaker 4>It took us a long time to get in on

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<v Speaker 4>that infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>Microphone has anything, brother, because people love to record shit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's the commentary that you have, brother, it's my

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<v Speaker 2>voice sounds so much silkier. So now you can hear

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<v Speaker 2>every annunciation of every letter, so people don't they're not

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<v Speaker 2>confused on what I'm saying any longer.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that our audience demography is going to change?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>And gravitate more towards a group of people that are

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<v Speaker 4>mostly just interested in the silkiness of your newfound voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we're gonna keep our audience, our no

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<v Speaker 1>Sillings family, but also we're gonna get people like Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Z, people who understand such levels of clare like

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<v Speaker 1>economically valuable voices, got very nice. Yeah, when you project,

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<v Speaker 1>like if Donald Trump did a podcast, he would do

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<v Speaker 1>it through a C.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight hundred, I could see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Donald Trump is about to go to zeal So.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, Kennedy almost has enough? Does he have

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<v Speaker 2>enough signatures?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Peter the where he can run?

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<v Speaker 4>He is running. He absolutely running.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be a sleeper.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna be a sleep He's gonna be a spoiler. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he gonna fuck up on votes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think he got action that winning, zero chance

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<v Speaker 2>of winning. Nobody really wants to vote for Biden, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't want to vote for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants to vote for Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's they do on this goddamn podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably on this podcast they do, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think everybody does. Bro and.

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<v Speaker 4>The Trump's floor is like forty and there's just not

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<v Speaker 4>enough space for Kennedy to make that up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, man, I don't care. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just paid twenty dollars for a double cheeseburger special,

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<v Speaker 3>So I care.

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<v Speaker 2>I care too. We need to get Biden the hell

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<v Speaker 2>out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo, how did you go to get that special?

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<v Speaker 1>You did that shit? Remember we was on still last

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<v Speaker 1>and Still was trying to get Trump out of there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like Biden, I'm like, Biden horrible, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted anybody but Trump because he was scared because people

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<v Speaker 1>was angry. Well guess what now, we got twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>double cheeseburger specials at doubles.

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<v Speaker 2>Still I used to I just spend thirty dollars at

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<v Speaker 2>MacDonald's and didn't get what I wanted. They said they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any more apple pies, which is the story

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<v Speaker 2>of their life.

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<v Speaker 3>When I go over there, this is your fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what the young man told me. He says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>when they run out, we just don't make it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, So you're a twenty four hour McDonalds and

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<v Speaker 2>just you won't have pies with like twelve hours out

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<v Speaker 2>the day.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your faults. This is your fault.

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<v Speaker 2>You did this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was you and my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I kept telling y'all Trump is okay in office, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to like him, but at least you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna say Trump is a death pudding and

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<v Speaker 2>waiting what he's a death but a potential despot. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a dictator.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Charlottagne y'all put that level of fear out

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<v Speaker 1>here to make people not vote for him, to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that man is going to be a I'm telling you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you he gets in office, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>bad for us. You couldn't hardly get the man out

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<v Speaker 2>of the office when you lost last time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because no one would take a court case. He

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<v Speaker 4>didn't do anything other than asterphile court cases, get denied

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<v Speaker 4>by judges and walk out the door.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all he did.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, man, Americas in sad shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you put Biden in office and now we got

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why your party to the problem. Yes, people like

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<v Speaker 3>your mind your mine, No, your mind too.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't like them any less.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys did this shit because y'all saw them white

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<v Speaker 1>people out in the Carolinas with them Walmore torches, Walmart torches,

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<v Speaker 1>and thought they was the real thing and got your

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<v Speaker 1>scary ass and.

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<v Speaker 3>You put a real fuck up in office. This motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>The fucking double cheeseburger was nineteen dollars and twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>cent at dozen like a place like tams Oh call

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<v Speaker 1>a double cheeseburger used to be eight dollars and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three cent because of steals. Fucking vote, the fucking fucking

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<v Speaker 1>steals vote, a fucking double cheeseburger is nineteen dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three cents. Fucking gas is seven dollars and twelve cent.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the fuck is going on. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you talking about this motherfucker that's in office.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at what the fuck you did.

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<v Speaker 4>The funniest thing about it is you think that Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's gonna be a dictator where you have a guy

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<v Speaker 4>in office who's trying to send his opposition to prison,

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<v Speaker 4>one one whose family comes from a group of people

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<v Speaker 4>that all kind assassinated, who's he's referring to give them

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<v Speaker 4>secret service protections.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you biting is terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not done yet. Let this man make his point.

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<v Speaker 4>You're you're concerned one guy's gonna be a dictator when

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<v Speaker 4>the other is trying to send his two send his

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<v Speaker 4>chief opposition to prison, his secondary opposition. He's not affording

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<v Speaker 4>him the right to secret service protection. He's flaunting the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court making he is. He is making executive decisions

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<v Speaker 4>that are not backed by law and that have been

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<v Speaker 4>shot them by the court, and he's doing them anyway

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<v Speaker 4>in spite of the Supreme Court. That's dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you and fucking the double cheese Barker's nineteen dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty three six. Only Hitler would have did some

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<v Speaker 1>shit like this. Thank you, fucking Steele, Thank you for your.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you this right now, we in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of hurt either way. No Trump's tyroneas once he

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<v Speaker 2>getting off, get done with everything. You go see because

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't gonna be no more cheeseburger stands. We gonnall

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<v Speaker 2>be we gonna be ass up.

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<v Speaker 4>He lives on cheeseburgers, that's all cheeseburgers.

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<v Speaker 3>And dont coke.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot admit right now that the that the world

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit better for us when Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>in office than it is right now. You can't really

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<v Speaker 1>admit you know what it is you mother. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>this is no silings gl my man, Peter. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my big brother Steel. We got him in here because

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<v Speaker 1>we want him to fucking admit he fucked up, fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>So what will show?

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is not what we're doing, oh show, But

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get this fucking off. You're going to fucking

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<v Speaker 1>admit that your emotional fucking shit being hurt because you worried,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Trump hurt my feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>It's white people who don't like me. Du they have

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<v Speaker 3>the tiki torches.

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<v Speaker 1>A fucking double cheeseburger combo is nineteen dollars and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three cents.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to read to him the root of the

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<v Speaker 4>definition of his hysteria. Happy to do with the uterus.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna tell you who I do like. I

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<v Speaker 2>like Nicole Shanahan a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to win. You have to chill between

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<v Speaker 3>Biden and Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a billionaire Marxists. She is the quintessential Bentley Bentley Bolshevik.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, man, I think they have a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna benefit Trump more than it's gonna benefit Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as I'll be honest with you, I rather

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<v Speaker 2>have Trump in office than Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's all I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't rather have Trump. And now I've said that

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<v Speaker 2>that was a very that was a mistake of ethic

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<v Speaker 2>immense proportions.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I wanted, the truth, Undershook.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm gonna tell you right now, man, our country

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<v Speaker 2>is in shambles. Man. The dollar is going to ship.

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<v Speaker 2>The dollar is taking the dump right now. Anytime you

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<v Speaker 2>go to McDonald's, man, you My dad was just here

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<v Speaker 2>a few days ago, gee, and we stopped her to

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<v Speaker 2>make Donald's for breakfast on the way home. And I

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<v Speaker 2>picked them up that morning and they and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I got it And he said forty dollars. He said

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<v Speaker 2>for what did we buy? What do we Is this

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake? I said, no, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So fucking fuck you and that fucking Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I got the nerve to be a super predator,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fucking double cheeseburgers nineteen dollars and twenty three cents.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you pay that much for a burger at.

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<v Speaker 1>Doubles and you know paaramount doubles doubles for a burger

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<v Speaker 1>just for a burger buy double cheeseburger combo was nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and twenty three cents.

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<v Speaker 2>What the problem is with that? The moment they said

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<v Speaker 2>that all fast food workers have to get paid a

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<v Speaker 2>minimum of twenty dollars an hour, that's what messed that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know whippers on they mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some California shit too.

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<v Speaker 3>But see in California problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Trump was. If Trump was in office, he

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<v Speaker 2>would with your burger. That's this motherfucking office out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, hold up, not before we get on Gavin,

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get on Gavin, Trump would have challenged his ass.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we need somebody because Gavin Newsom is like

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<v Speaker 2>the worst government in the world. First of all, he's

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<v Speaker 2>worried about everywhere else. He's so worried about changing George's

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<v Speaker 2>gun laws that he can't manage his own state.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what he has to do. He has to divert

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<v Speaker 4>and deflect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the best thing about him is he trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get all you poor coons up out of here and

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<v Speaker 1>replace y'all with Hispanic people who will work.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he got one of the multiple family right e.

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<v Speaker 2>Hispanic people next summer, Next summer, I am gone, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's just rich people they getting you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yours had to go to because I'm serious, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see where Glasses Malone fits in this new world

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<v Speaker 2>out here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm rich, are you yeah, I'm rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot me a few doubts over here.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you wait till, wait till the state Wealth tax

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<v Speaker 4>comes calling for Glasses alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Already? Oh nothing, text, they send me letters every other day, nog.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you, I'm getting out this motherfucker dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting out of here. California is done for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't nobody need to be out here. California the

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<v Speaker 2>worst state in the Union.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is okay, I'm not gonna go that far,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the only compar be what like.

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<v Speaker 3>Vermont, New York is pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Homeless people and you know what, they're giving homeless people

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<v Speaker 2>chacks to come out here. That's why you got motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 2>coming from Idaho, from Iowa, from everywhere else is making

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<v Speaker 2>a pilgrimage out west.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's happening. You know how like the funding

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<v Speaker 4>for public education is based off of the number of

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<v Speaker 4>students in each class. That's what's happening with the homeless.

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<v Speaker 4>The funding to help the homeless is based off of

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of homeless. So they keep just increased the

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<v Speaker 4>amount of homeless to keep the amount of funding for

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<v Speaker 4>homeless always on the upper trajectory.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, man, it's like I feel like I'm living in

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<v Speaker 2>a black mirror episode now it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, So let's let's get to uh ship, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to ship. I had a thought. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about Donald Trump, so rulers who people fear

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<v Speaker 1>and get a bad rap. Donald Trump is definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>president that that got a bad rap, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong. He's some shit and and he

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<v Speaker 3>definitely doesn't walk with the esteem we were like the

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<v Speaker 3>the front man of the United States of America to

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<v Speaker 3>walk with. But what I enjoyed about him is he

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<v Speaker 3>was a man of the people. Like he was tweeting

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<v Speaker 3>from an android. Like when he talked, he cracked jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, it's funny because I used to see

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<v Speaker 1>so many people upset with him on Twitter, like why

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<v Speaker 1>is a president on Twitter? Why are you on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>Every I always like my presidents still to be men

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<v Speaker 1>of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my three favorite presidents right is Lincoln, Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump. You know what, I like those three presidents

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<v Speaker 1>the best for because they was men of the people.

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<v Speaker 2>A Lincoln who Lincoln was the man of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, yeah, he was right, motherfucker's back. That was That

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<v Speaker 1>was all right, all right, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he wasn't. He wasn't the arner. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>but but also he wasn't the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't our people? We talking about white people. We talking

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<v Speaker 1>about peak people, not well, not peat people because theyre familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>Were talking about regular white people. Nobody's a man of

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<v Speaker 1>black people. Why the hell would you be a man

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<v Speaker 1>of black people as a president if Yeah, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never be president, because I'd be a man of

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<v Speaker 1>black people. And now that ain't gonna do good with

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<v Speaker 1>the That's like, you have nine daughters and one son

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<v Speaker 1>and you keep buying shit for boys. I know that fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like just you ca' just son. You could

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<v Speaker 1>wear the skirt that fugg No. But I think Trump

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<v Speaker 1>takes a bad rap as a president. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he was the greatest president, but I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>very much the perfect indication of where America was socially,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he represented it perfect at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you get the presidents like like, shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>To Obama, He's the president of where America wants to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So Obama would look like a fantastic president in ten

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<v Speaker 1>years from now. Like in ten years, Obama gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>like the best thing that happened to America. Biden is

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<v Speaker 1>like a president like, uh, the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>I would put him in fucking Nixon Nixon right right together.

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<v Speaker 2>Him and Nixon the worst two motherfuckers able to run

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Nixon wasn't a bad prob thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a bad president, just a dirty president.

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<v Speaker 4>He just yeah, he just sleazy. He didn't do a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of bad A lot of bad shit happened.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And Biden is just old, you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>I think This illustrates the dichotomy between Trump and Biden's presidencies. Sure,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump went into office believing that the presidency was what

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<v Speaker 4>we think it is, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 4>he wouldn't like Trump would have been a very impactful

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<v Speaker 4>president in nineteen fifty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny, somebody asked me that and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think Trump is a is a president of

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<v Speaker 1>the past. I'm like, no, Trump is a fundamental type

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<v Speaker 1>of president. Everything constitutional. President Biden is what America was like.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have his ideas would have fixed America eighty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, seven years ago, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>these ideas would be cool seven years ago, when he

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<v Speaker 1>could have took minimum wage from I don't know, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight sent to adopt today that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't That's just not smart.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the issue also is he thought, well, I,

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<v Speaker 4>as the president, could come in here and I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>charge of the executive branch.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not quite so true. Sure, and not based

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<v Speaker 3>on the constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean based on the there's the Constitution, and

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<v Speaker 4>then there's a bazillion laws after the Constitution that all

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<v Speaker 4>should fight out in court. And your term is only

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<v Speaker 4>so long, you know, so all everything he tried to

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<v Speaker 4>do got bogged down in court for the whole duration.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the term.

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<v Speaker 4>And Biden is a perfect illustration of what the presidency

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<v Speaker 4>actually is Biden's not like seriously, he's he is as

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<v Speaker 4>much the acting leader of this country as this bottle

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<v Speaker 4>of lemonade is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he's purely a god figure.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, he's a figurehead while a million plus manned

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<v Speaker 4>fourth bureaucratic branch of government runs everything autonomously without having

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<v Speaker 4>to be bothered by a transient guy who's here on

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<v Speaker 4>a four year contract.

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<v Speaker 1>H I could respect that, but I do, But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think Trump gets a bad rap as a president,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a ruler, right, as a front man and

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a company, the company that's united, stay

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<v Speaker 1>is in America, Sug I think gets the bad rap

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Right, Sug was probably one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>black execs in the history of all black music.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>You wasn't gonna stay in jail if you are a

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<v Speaker 1>Sug artist, Right you you got a monthly stipend even

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<v Speaker 1>when you for sure had ran out of rooties based

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<v Speaker 1>off the contract you signed. Like, right, you still was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a monthly stipen he financed, Like I listen

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<v Speaker 1>to people tell the story of Shug right and they'll say, oh, man, well,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the stuff was in Sug Night name. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the the house was in sug Night name, the

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<v Speaker 1>cars was in sug Night name.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying to explain it to somebody, like that

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<v Speaker 1>means you get a free monthly stipend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that means.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to pay for my car like I

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<v Speaker 1>wish Birdman paid for my house and my cars, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna put them in cash money fucking name the

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<v Speaker 1>whole fucking time. I don't fucking care. The fuck cares,

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<v Speaker 1>who the fuck cares? Guess what that means. The day

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of it, I can just walk away. That

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<v Speaker 1>means I can save all of my stipend money and

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<v Speaker 1>I have free money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, yeah, you know what. Man should definitely get

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<v Speaker 2>some bad rep when I set up here and hear

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<v Speaker 2>these artists talk about them, because the irony of it is,

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<v Speaker 2>these guys all went over there and seigned contracts. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them sold. They publishing that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get back now, and I'm like, you sold it, Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it should. It should be in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not in perpetuity, right, It's nothing perpectuity.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do you think about it like this,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say we do a business deal. You come to

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<v Speaker 2>me and say, still, you know what, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>you two fifty for your publishing because it's a co

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<v Speaker 2>pub deal. He didn't take all the published, He just

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<v Speaker 2>took a percentage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's illegal to write shout out to my big brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Still big brother still ran a wing of a publishing

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<v Speaker 1>department for a few years, so he understands publishing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than me, and definitely a lot more than Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what it deal was, bro. When you

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<v Speaker 2>sign a publishing deal with someone, if you sign a

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<v Speaker 2>co pub deal, that means that they're usually getting, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty to fifty percent of your half. Right. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>sign nobody in perpetuity. You can't sign to them for whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm pretty sure it shoulg may have had maybe

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirty years on that stuff, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>depends on how much money he gave them and what

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<v Speaker 2>they signed. But they signed for it though, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They signed for it. I don't think should put a

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<v Speaker 2>bullet most and most of these people came to Shug

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<v Speaker 2>asking for that because they need the money.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think sug As an executive, gets a really

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<v Speaker 1>bad rap. Don't get me wrong, I think he did

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<v Speaker 1>some shit like any motherfucking body that pretty much everybody

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<v Speaker 1>obviously were looking at Puff now.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've always said I thought, Pops get a bad rap.

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<v Speaker 1>And what fucks me up is it all really comes

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<v Speaker 1>down The one thing that I feel like we can

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a fair discussion is the decision, the most

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<v Speaker 1>important decision that ever happened to death Row, the decision

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<v Speaker 1>of do I focus on Pop or do I fix

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<v Speaker 1>in repair the relationship with doctor Dre at all costs Pop,

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<v Speaker 1>who is blossoming inside of what's going on to death Row,

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 1>the whole you know, the whole element, the street element,

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>pack is blossoming inside of it. I mean, he's flourishing,

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>He's becoming obviously at this point, the biggest and greatest

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 1>art in the world. You know, if you look to

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<v Speaker 1>all eyes on me, it actually took his career to

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<v Speaker 1>a final level. It interjected him with a level to me,

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<v Speaker 1>a street that might have been missing previously before. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though he had street records, it was a different element

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<v Speaker 1>having that death Row energy around him. Right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>doctor dre hold on Doctor dre who was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like revoting against where the energy was going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you gotta remember, Bro, prior to death row Puk

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<v Speaker 2>was more of a more of a radical, more of

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<v Speaker 2>a pro black radical. You feel what I'm saying. The

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to Chuck d You know, he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the struggle, which was fine, which you know had a

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<v Speaker 2>certain level of danger to it as well, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what Chuck d D. Yeah, I think definitely when he

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<v Speaker 2>came to death row Man it started turning more. Punk

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<v Speaker 2>was a sponge. He absorbed whoever was around him.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a kid. He's twenty some years old, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, And I think we forget about how young he

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<v Speaker 2>was when he passed away. He definitely, you know, made mistakes, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't think those mistakes take away from him

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<v Speaker 2>being one of the greatest poets of our time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, did he really make mistakes?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, he did stuff that young people do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he follows some wrong people. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>put his hands on the wrong man that ultimately costs

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<v Speaker 2>him his life.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if I would even consider that

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. If you saying somebody is your friend and

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<v Speaker 1>you standing up for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he should have been involved in that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends still if y'all friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still he is an asset at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>he's an artist. I wouldn't have my artists out there

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for no fucking body.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's about your artist. First off, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody is your slave.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't by your slave. But I would have fired

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<v Speaker 2>every last one of them. Dudes. They over there allowed

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<v Speaker 2>him to go over there and punk as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>he got the wall, especially him knowing that man's reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as he the one that did that out

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<v Speaker 2>put him in the foot. Nelson drugs ass back over

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<v Speaker 2>there said, look, dudes, you was about to call some

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<v Speaker 2>major ship because I'm gonna tell you this gen had

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 2>that been bunchry and all of them to jump on

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 2>that dude, this is a part of the game that

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<v Speaker 2>would have wait until they got back to Compton. It

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been all that that night, sure, but because

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<v Speaker 2>it was Tupac, I'm pretty sure that we discussed this.

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<v Speaker 2>That guy said, man, because you know what, it's embarrassing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time to get back to La Man. You

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 2>know Tupac put hands on a HAMMYE.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Sure, it's embarrassing.

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>He man, I can't you know? You had to writing

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the song, bro, So.

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 3>This should make an incorrect decision.

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>If we could say it's about the decision, right, pt

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:44.440
<v Speaker 1>he made the wrong decision?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, Oh, he definitely made it wrong. You I

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>told you that early. You always stick with the producer.

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but nobody ever sticks with the producer.

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 4>And I think a lot of time also, the producers

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:00.439
<v Speaker 4>are a little harder to retain.

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Why you Why do you feel that harder to retain?

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Because at some point in time, the prisoner has to

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 4>realize their own value and their capacity to spin off

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 4>to the into their own direction.

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 3>It's easier than an artist.

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, ultimately, Drake had a reputation. Every person that dra

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 2>was with prior to Shug, he left, He walked away from.

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let me ask let me ask you a question.

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask the question how long she?

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Let me just show you the pattern. He was with Lorenzo,

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.479
<v Speaker 2>He walked away from Lorenzo, went over there with Easy,

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 2>with Easy, he left Easy and went to Shug, left

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Sug and went to Jimmy. You know, there's nowhere to

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 2>go after this. He's at you. Feel what I'm saying,

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 2>he's where you want to be, I guess, And I'm

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 2>not mad at that. I'm just speaking facts.

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm saying it's also because it's a certain

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>level of value, like why wouldn't Okay, so if your

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>should night now, Dre's coming to you. Let's say hypothetically, Dre's.

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Coming to you.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>He said, Hey, man, I don't like the direction of

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 1>death Row, but y'all riding high. Still, y'all are riding high,

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>right you? You you're coming off of a triple platinum

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>album in the chronic or double platinum album at the time.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.719
<v Speaker 1>You're coming off the greatest album in hip hop, the

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>most successful you know.

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Album and hip hop.

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, Boring beastis Hammer, you know, maybe a Vanilla

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I some stuff that that that that is being marketed

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>more novelty.

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Versus just the streets.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Right you?

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You coming off that, You're coming off all these soundtracks

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're loading up Tupac, who looks like you have

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>an album that's going to be one of the greatest

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>hip hop albums. Ever, how do you pull back? How

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>do you say? What's your decision at that point. Now

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you got pocmatic Dre, like, hey, Dre is blah blah blah.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with this if you should? What

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 1>if the energy is coming out? How do you what

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>do you do to make Dre happy at that point?

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if there's anything you can do.

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's a lot of other mitigating factors to this thing,

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>because you got to remember, he was messing with the

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>man's baby mama too.

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Pay He's a perfect example, you feel what I'm saying.

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 2>So it was just a lot of shit that was

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 2>really man with all the genius that should was, he

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 2>made mistakes. He was a human being, sure.

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if he I don't know if

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he made mistakes again versus making decisions. It's easy to

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>say right now, we you know, we in today's time,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>we're in twenty twenty four saying you know, pop's fucked up?

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Back then, you feel me that's not really fair because

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 1>it's like everything is going correctly. He now has the

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>biggest hip hop label not named Deaf Jam in the

0:26:56.040 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>music business. They didn't already sold roughly you know, ten

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>twelve million albums with Pac in the Q pock is

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Q and they just sold you know, somewhere

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>between seven and ten million albums or something like that.

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>With Pac in the Q, he's in the Q. He

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>ain't even they ain't even shot the gun yet he's

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Q. They he's at the top of the clip.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 2>And think about this ge. You know, you're talking about

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>their numbers. Let's talk about Coach Ro impact exactly. Because

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of companies, you know, like Bad Boys,

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 2>sold some good records, but they didn't have the coach

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>real impact that Differro had.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>But I don't even know if bad Boy bad Boy

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>had an album that sold three million and then another

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>album that sold four or five million, like dogs.

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>About it, I don't think they sold as many as

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 2>different did. They sold some records though.

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of records. But I'm saying, how do it's

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>easy for us. Let's go back in that time, Pete,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back in that time. You just sold you

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>coming off the Chronic doing two or three million, You're

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>coming off Doggy Style doing triple to five million. You're

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>coming off multiple platinum and double platinum soundtracks. Murder was

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 1>the case? Was that double platinum? So that's roughly, you know,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>ten million records. Then you got a couple soundtracks that's

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>doing incredible. You got the Dog Pound album that just

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>went double platinum. So you you know, we're talking about

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety five, ninety six.

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean before Tupac you already you know twelve million plus.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 3>How is he making mistakes? Now?

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>He even made two many mistakes now as far as being

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 2>the CEO.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm asking you like, how do you please Okay,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>let's say Drake, Okay, okay, for sure, you back up.

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't knock down Michelle, right, you leave Michelle alone.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>That's not it's off limits because Doctor Dre is the

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>most important thing at this record label, more important than Snoop,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>more important than Tupac, because Doctor Dre is the reason

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>we get Snoop Dogg and Tupac at this level, at

0:28:59.000 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>this level.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm sure sure Tupac would it.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Sug would have been I mean, Snoop would

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>have been successful with anybody. You know, how successful is different,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>but he would have been successful. If Hutch did his out,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>he probably would have went go because he was that

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>type of talent.

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 3>And Poc was already successful before death Row.

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But doctor Dre's version of both artists are the versions

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of the artists that we remember the most. Right, So

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the sug branded version of Snoop Dogg and the sug

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>branded version of Tupac. Right where those brands fit with

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>death Row wanted to push and then the music that

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>doctor Dre allowed to come out and cultivated, you know,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>through mixing and whatever else stuff he touched on. Right,

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>we get the greatest versions of these artists. If you

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>shug what if Dre Dre's complaining to you, He like, hey, man,

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the direction this gangs and shit is going.

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>How do you make a different choice besides going with pop?

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you do differently?

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Like? What this baby?

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>How does bird Man? How the Stunner keep shout out

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to Stunnard? But how the stunner keep Maddy fresh happen?

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you just give him the company? Do you say, hey,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what?

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what I think with that? See, Dre's sting

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>wasn't money. Manny's thing was money. Many wanted more money.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm said regardless, right, I mean, we could go through

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the hit men, we could go through beasts by the pound.

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I think you pay these motherfuckers. You have to to

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>within a reason, you feel what I'm saying, because these

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>guys are the backbone if you think about it. Bro

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>when Beasts by the Pound left and I love master

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>P and everything he's staying for, but that it was

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>over with at that point. They did still no more

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>records after that. Baby one thing the Baby's credit. He

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>always was able to do. Baby always had somebody in Q.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think I think Baby had Wayne, and

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>he was able to put the whole company.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 3>On young and young money.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And because if you think about it, if you think,

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, cash money maybe didn't break

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>any more artists after Manny Fresh left up, every young

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>money begins to break all that acts.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was all young money.

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And again that you're right that that's a great point

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>because what did Birdman do to keep little Wayne around.

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 3>He gave him the company.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>He gave him the company and then you know, and

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>that's like the only one though, But you know what,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>though he was even he wasn't even no longer to

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>say that he had to give. You know, we went

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to the whole thing where Wayne was like, I want

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>my money.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, that was after Yeah, that and that's a little

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>bit more complex because and I don't think you know.

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>What I'm gonna say this, I don't think that was

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>all bird necessarily because when Wayne did get his money,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>he came from universe.

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, that's the only person who could pay him.

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it ain't like Listen, the belief is they're

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>giving should Knight like people think should Knight had a

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>bank account with one hundred million dollars or should Knight

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>had a bank account with thirty million dollars?

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the case the stife, and it was a

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what it sounded like to me, it sounded

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like it was just a really grand stipend every month

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>to whar you got so much money every month and

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you got everybody often you've got to you know, wait

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>for that. Let's say they was giving Shugar half a million,

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a million dollars a month.

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I heard it was a lot closer to a million

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 3>dollars a month.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>And the hey day, you know, he getting a million

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>dollars a month, which is you know what it is, right,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and they putting his records out and everything. It's not

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>a bad It's definitely not a bad deal.

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you gotta you gotta pay Drake, right, So what

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>does Drake get one hundred two hundred some thousand a month?

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you pay slew seventy to one hundred thousand

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a month? What you paying a dog pack? What are

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you paying your studio?

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Bit?

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>What you're paying for? What's the studio they was working at?

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Can What are you.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Paying KNM at that time when it's twenty five hundred

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars days.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you think about it, they had to recoup

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>against all those albums, right, you know you got the

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>prison coast back then and see this area they you

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>know when people talk about the good old days and

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>see these preston could be expensive sometimes, you.

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Know what, I got to do a power with Shug Man.

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because I want to talk to Shug

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>for real, Like I don't want to talk to Shug

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>about none of this bullshit everybody talk to him about.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I really want to.

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Talk to him about how the business was really going,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I would love to have a real conversation with him.

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have a real conversation with him

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>about how that business is doing.

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, we know I know how to get in

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>touch with him.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure and we know, uh day, So Shug

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>just did didn't he just do like Patrick Beth David

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, Like.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't even we can get the shoes directly

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>without talking to that dude.

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, but I'm saying, yeah, but I don't see.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>To me, everybody wastes excuse me, everybody wastes time with Shug.

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 4>They want to hear the same stupid story over and

0:33:58.760 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 4>over and over again.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>This gossip, this, this gossip, that, this about gossip. I

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to him about how he structured the

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>business with Jimmy at that time.

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I'll be very compelling.

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he had you know what, it's not a bad

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a bad deal because I'm gonna tell you, man,

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>that was the heyday. Man. He was really great, bro,

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And I hate that his legacy is always gonna be

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>defined about, you know, from the bullshit. You know, yeah

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>what you good?

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 4>That's that's part of what made it so popular though,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying, mm hmm, like if if

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 4>you were at a square shop.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say it made I think it made

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>him polarizing, though it made him like he had definitely

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>had a mystique around him.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 4>There was, but there's there's value in that mystique. Am

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 4>I saying without value?

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Should only this ship? The motherfuckers really did deserve it.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 2>Shug was one of it. Should is one of the

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 2>coolest motherfuckers you ever want to meet.

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 3>That's true.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>He's funny. You're like, I've never feel threatened being around Shugar.

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>He was always just like a dude that was cool.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>He like, you see, to be honest with you, and

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, he just didn't everybody that Sugar did something

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>too in some manner away cross gangs. What they don't

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 2>talk about. They don't talk about the people that called

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Sugar two in the morning he shug, my mama about

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 2>to lose her house. I need this come up to

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>they check tomorrow, pick up seventy five thousand. No, I

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>got you back. They don't talk about that. Most of

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>them people didn't want to pay him back his money.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>What's crazy is I think people are not really gonna

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>give him his credit to theday dies.

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Sure, you know what I'm saying. I think that's what's

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna happen.

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 1>So again about that decision, So we all agree that

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>he should have chose doctor Dre. Whatever it took to

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>make doctor Dre happy, that was a correct decision. But

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>what if what if you you what if Pac looked

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>at that as weaknesses, right, as a weakness. Pac is

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 1>getting out of prison, right, He's gassed up, he's fired.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Up, he's pumped up, you know.

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean he he ready to go to war and

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Dre is like, YO were not going to war.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I think Pap wouldn't have had no choice but to

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>sit back and just to come enjoy the show. What

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>is he gonna do?

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>He can't builds into this conversation.

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>He's on the contract though, you feel what I mean,

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like where can he go? And then the thing else,

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, one of the things like to him,

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Pac was planning to leave that forro. He wanted to

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.479
<v Speaker 2>leave that for right. See that's the thing about these

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>ungrateful ass artists. Man, you get motherfuckers out of jail

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and all this shit, then they want to leave you.

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I don't think honestly like Pac. You can

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 4>say what you want, like let's say, but let's do

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 4>a hypothetical based on poking every shot.

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he was.

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 4>A bottle rocket career to trajectory that then three years

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 4>was gonna be back in film. It's sam wrong. He

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 4>had a few hot albums in them and it was

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 4>gonna be back in film.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I've said multiple times, I think if Park is alive mcavelly,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>if mcavelly is an album, it'sconsidered a it's considered a flop,

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>like like the way people mistreat dog Father. You know,

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you come back with two number one album. You know,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you come back off an album that got two number

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 1>one singles all these blockbuster songs to an album that's

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>more of a thematic album that doesn't have, you know,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>really big records. I think he takes a lot of criticism,

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Kendrick took with Mister Morale after Damn,

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>where people felt like, oh they ain't you know that.

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot of you know, criticism to the

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>success of that album because it's coming off of Damn.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I see, you know what I

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>see the mcavillia al Mans. I see that as a

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>almost like a mixtape kind of.

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I think they said that was the idea for it.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I think I definitely think if he wouldn't have died,

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>they would have just something that was feeding the streets

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>with because that's what it sounded like. It wasn't. I

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>actually enjoyed an album because it sound.

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite Tupac album. But I also understood that

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>him passing away and and and the climbing at that

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 1>time made it a million times more enjoyable. Then it

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>went from being just music because it's it's always more

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>than just music, and it's a lot of culture. But

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that album, the music almost didn't matter because it was

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like we thought it was our last.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Offering from him.

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Was a hit record.

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, and no a hit record, yes, but

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>not a hit record compared to California Love No.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 3>But how do you want it California?

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Because you got to remember he took this pro West

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 2>coach Fance and he made and you know, especially when

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he said it wouldn't be La without the Mexicans, you

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>can tell he was really just prime embraced La with

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that song. So I think it served as purpose.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think he Again, I'm not saying that

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have successful cuts on there. I'm saying compared

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to this last compared to coming off of all lies

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>on Me that had you feel what I'm.

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Saying all lies on Me and even that, I'm gonna

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>tell you what that if they would have made that

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>just one album. Gee, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the cuts, but if they just took all the song

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 2>songs and made just one thirteen fourteen song disc, it

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>would have been one of the best rap albums in

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 2>the history of hip hop.

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>It is already even with the two discs it is.

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I just think that Motherfucker is a jam and ass album.

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Though, So where does pop go without Johnny Jan and

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Drayden? How does Pac make another successful big album?

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I don't think Pak needed Doctor Dre

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>as crazy as that sound. I think he already.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Had his guy Wow, but he lost Johnny J.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I think he could have you know, you think about it, bro,

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 2>who couldn't have produced for Tupac Doog?

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the people who did the next album because they

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't have none of the ship. Remember the two singles

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>off of All Lines on Me is Doctor Dre and

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Johnny J.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 2>But Drake had. But what the fuck am I saying

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Drake for.

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Beginning is that he just got his ass whooped.

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And you remember that I remember was one of the

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 1>greatest whoopings in the history of hip hop.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Those were Drey's records that he gave Tupac Right. Sure,

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, those of his records that he

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 2>gave him Pod had hits prior to that, though, prior

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 2>to him coming to Death Row.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he didn't have hits, but I'm saying,

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>without Johnny j Right, without doctor Dre your signed to

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>death Row, where do you get these smashes from?

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Mmmm?

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a deep question, man, I don't know. I agree,

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 2>go back to this other.

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Ship, but at death Row, right, because remember so the

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>person who did dear that was a smash shot G.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think SHAHG was participating in the death ro

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.280
<v Speaker 1>shit SHOTG had some on California.

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm all eyes on me.

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Did Shock have one on there? No, you know what

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 3>he did.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>And I know Bobcat had one on there, because you

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 2>gotta remember priors to that, Bobcat did strictly for my niggas.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>That was him and pulling them.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 3>And then Shock did I get around and shad so

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 3>many tears?

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you get the boogeymen back together, Maybe you get

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 2>pool a combination of when they most deadly at their best.

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got Bob on the drums, Pooh on

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the motherfucking but the music, and you could Muffler and

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>all them. Maybe he could have pulled some shit out.

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Those are very formidable producers.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but remember they wouldn't. They wasn't getting back together.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Remember at this point Pool is doing Snoops project, which

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is The dog Father.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and which The dog Father gets a lot of

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 2>dishtain that you shouldn't get. The dog Father wasn't a

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>bad album. I don't know why people like justif you.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 4>Go from a thirteen on a scale of one to

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 4>ten to an eight, it's a what a massive off.

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this, me being on both sides of

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the coin creating albums like The Crime Can, The Chrimic

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and Dog Doggy Style, those are those albums are anomalies.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 3>You may get one of those, not for Doctor dre

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 3>or not.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>But Doctor Drake can't think of him one out. He

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 2>can't think. That's his problem though, he can't think of

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>none the top that ship.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 4>He's fifty five years old, sixty years old.

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Sixty years old.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>It don't matter, dog he could matter.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 3>The fuck is getting ship at sixty.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 4>It matters in this business tremendously. But look at how large.

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, maybe I could be wrong. I don't know.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 4>I thought he did a lot of the first eminem shit,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 4>in the first fifty shit, and the game shit, and

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 4>and Snoop's comeback ship.

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Drake chasing his own ghost. Dude, he's a he has

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>a very unenviable task. Bro. I wouldn't want to be

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 2>in that position to try to chase that shit thog.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I don't that, but I don't think Dre

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>is chasing anything. I just think dre goal is to

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>not make a bad album.

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Much, and I think honestly he didn't want to. Cock

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 2>was seasoned enough to where you gotta remember when Drake

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>left Snoop, Snoop was still kind of like almost even

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 2>though he was a mega star, he was kind of

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>stealing developmental stage. He wasn't who he became. Yet you

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>feel what I'm saying.

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 4>That's where I was gonna go. I feel like this

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 4>question largely hinges the most off of does a restructuring

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 4>of Death Row around a doctor dre paradigm keep Snoop there?

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 4>And if that's the case, then this is not even

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 4>a discussion.

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Well they got really Snoop. You gotta remember, Snoop didn't

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 2>going no where. They dropped Snoop.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, they didn't drop him, they sold him.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 2>They but pretty much.

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Because he wanted out of there after the court cases that.

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.479
<v Speaker 2>It was, they thought it was over with. They thought

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 2>he was over after what's his name.

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's true.

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they just came to a bad situation where

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>remember Sugar end up going to jail. It just was

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a bad situation, especially especially for Sug because you lose

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Sug if you Snoop Dogg, you lose Sug and you

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>lose doctor Dre Like this is how you walk. So

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 1>there's no d OC you know who who have joined

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And Dads is still a baby.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Dads is still working on becoming a producer that that

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we like, you know, that's still two three years away.

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 2>It's hard, bro. You gotta think about it, man, think

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 2>about it like this right, Snoop is still in developmental stages.

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Poc W was season. You know, Pac was already three

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 2>or four hours in already by the time he came

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to death. Bro, I'm pretty sure they would have found

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.439
<v Speaker 2>somebody to, he'd still probably made SMIT records, you feel

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, either made some MIT records.

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>The dude knew how to write records. You know what

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. He knew how to make records, not seeing

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 2>that Snoop didn't. But Snoop had a lot of help

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>at first in he was a kid, you know, and

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what else to come in this game. You're

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 2>figuring stuff out.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Man, I know better than everybody.

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 2>You feel what I'm saying. He would have found somebody, bro.

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think that. I definitely think though, I would

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>have kept rocking with Dre because outd have told at

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, you know, pock you in

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the contract, shut the fuck up. It sounds good that

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you want to leave, but you ain't going no damn where.

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Hm hmm.

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Sounds I used to spend all his money to get

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<v Speaker 2>your ass out of jail. You're not going nowhere. You

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<v Speaker 2>go stay over here and we go down on this business. Drey,

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<v Speaker 2>go in there and do what you do. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you this, man. Yeah, it's funny when

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<v Speaker 2>when it's funny when you think back on it, man,

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<v Speaker 2>because all of this stuff Jimmy wins all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like it's almost like none of this impacts

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<v Speaker 2>him anyway, where the house always wins. Jimmy is not

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<v Speaker 2>over enter scope. Nowhere is he gen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he had Apple or if he even in music,

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 3>he was a Apple last time I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when you think about it, right, when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, whenever artist leaves the label, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they bring us in a street exact sin and they

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately wind up taking the artist anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, the artist is gonna leave everybody anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would the artist stay with you to do listen?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is true? Which is the point I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get at. Nothing is meant to be forever. Roland is

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<v Speaker 2>in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think Berdman, I think Birdman made the correct

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Birdman got it right more than any brother exec.

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<v Speaker 3>In the history of the music business.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you just turn over the label to your to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the to the bread winner, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that never happened. I mean, you know, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see a Researchency cash Money where Manny Fresh is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, on the up end of

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the financial and burd just makes the decisions. I think

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 1>the hit I think bad Boy changes the hit man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the cook, if the cook is actually in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think a fair parallel on these structures is

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<v Speaker 4>sports teams. Good players last a little shorter than good coaches,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 4>which lasts a little shorter than good gms, which lasts

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<v Speaker 4>a little shorter than good owners.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>And as soon as one guy tries to be more

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<v Speaker 4>than he's supposed to be, I e. Jerry Jones, Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>Jones was nothing with Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson made that roster.

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Johnson put that together, you know, he got him

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<v Speaker 4>out of there and they won one kind of half

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 4>passed with the same team with Switzer. But once all

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 4>those Jimmy Johnson people were gone, it's never been good again,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's Jerry West.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry West did it in multiple locations real well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as a GM he did.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like it just has to do with the

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<v Speaker 4>with the foundational layering of how a lot of that

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<v Speaker 4>stuff kind of works.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair if if you could pinpoint one thing, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were Shug Night and you could change one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you felt he did.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that one thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Still?

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<v Speaker 3>You would change that he did if you were sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, there's one thing you could be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go back and you can say you could

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<v Speaker 1>redirect him.

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<v Speaker 3>He don't do that. What would be one thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? You know what if I had to pick one thing, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy to sound never opened sixty six two six

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<v Speaker 2>six two wound up being a root of a lot

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of his problems. Right when you think about it, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six two. He probably wouldn't be in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>Not your fighting or you get on the plane after

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<v Speaker 3>the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you probably right back, there's no reason for you

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>to be hanging out. Count you feel what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it had been one of those things. Probably I opened

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:39.399
<v Speaker 2>up sixty six too.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then I think I think, uh, Reggie

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:47.239
<v Speaker 1>said it only opened like seven times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it only opens the radically, Doug. But every time

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it opened, there was always some bullshit up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so not open six six to two. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing people.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other thing, Bro. I think what happened with him

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, the whole accident with the car man,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.280
<v Speaker 2>you know when he ran when my man got ran over. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go up there, man, lead that shit alone, dog like,

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 2>leave all that alone. You feel what I'm saying. If

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I could talk the shug lead the bullshit alone, though

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<v Speaker 2>you still got to action, you shoug.

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<v Speaker 3>Night, Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>If one thing you can go back, even though still

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>said two things. If there's one thing, Pete you could do,

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you can go back and you could turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Pop say like he don't do that? What would be

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<v Speaker 3>that one thing?

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<v Speaker 4>I would just say, just always keep in mind the

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 4>difference between the sun and the moon. Meaning when you're assessing.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck all that one incident, Pete, when it's I don't

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>know this man's life like that.

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean the things that you do know.

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>As a matter as a rule of thumb, if you're

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:05.800
<v Speaker 4>a bigger guy, don't be between don't have a smaller

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 4>guy between you and the shooter.

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<v Speaker 3>He got very.

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Lucky man Like one thing, man, Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say this, understand who brings more talent around them?

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Who did Tupac ever bring around nobody? Dre has a

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 4>history of bringing people around him even before he got there.

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, So whatever to make doctor Dre happy, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Dre has done it. Before he had a collective talent

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 4>around him. At NWA, he assembled a collection of talent

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 4>around him. At death Row, he assembled a collection of

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 4>talent around him. After that, That's what he does. Who

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 4>did tupac wing around the outlaws? I mean, I don't

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 4>know those guys, but they didn't take off like Snoop

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<v Speaker 4>and M and M and Ice Cube.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure without laws some little keyds with marginal talent. And

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>people think that's this, but they.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know all this marginal talent. They were just

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<v Speaker 3>little kids.

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<v Speaker 4>They were in the wrong place at the wrong time,

0:51:58.560 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 4>in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 2>They was just little kids.

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Was little kids they were.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 2>They were really literally little kids, like you're said, very young.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Pete, if you should say not leading

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<v Speaker 2>leading Michelle alone.

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Pete would devastate those ship like that.

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