1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free Agents, presented by Toyota. I'm 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal alongside my friend of me, Daniel Jeremiah aka 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Moved the Sticks aka the best draft analyst in the 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: business DJ. When we last taped your mock draft three 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: point zero was about to come out, what was the response? 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: What was the pick that the most people got mad at? 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Without question, Chiefs taking a tackle at nine? They did 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: not want that? 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Why not? 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: They were upset because I think because they paid more 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: in free agency last year. And then you know Simmons 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: is a rookie, played well when he was out there, 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: wasn't out there the whole time. And my whole thing 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: was I watched more play, was not not in love 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: with what I saw from that video. So this to 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: me was a major upgrade at right tackle. But inevitably 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: half the comments are we were taking a pass rusher, 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: what are you doing? And I'm like, I don't. I 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: don't interact with these anymore. I used to, but that's 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: the useless. But when the top three guys are gone, 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: so then you're going to take a key Mesador with 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: the ninth pick? So are you okay with taking a 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: key Mesador? Because the other three guys are gone. I'm 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: not going to have those conversations on there. And then 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: I just I also put in there that Andy Andy 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: Reid has a very close relationship with Kyle Whittingham, and 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham, you know, is going to give him a 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: glowing endorsement of this player, and that'll matter. Kyle Whittingham's 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: son works for Andy. He's on the staff there and people. 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: And then so the response was like, just because he's 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: a Mormon doesn't mean that he's going to take only 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: a month. It's like, well, okay, that's that's the that's 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: what you get in some of the comments there. 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Hey, being a Mormon doesn't hurt though. Look news flash, 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs fans, Andy Reid loves taking big guys up front. 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: And I hate to break it to you, Jalen Moore 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract might not be 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: your long term tackle. I think they'll take the best player. 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: I like that. I said. The Patriots fans were a 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: little upset. 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: You got it. 42 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: You went for a news tackle. But maybe just because 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: just because follow them on Twitter, We're. 44 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Hold on real quick, because I was gonna look that up. Okay, 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: I didn't have any glaring. There was no glaring in 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: your face stat there that would appoint me in that direction. 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: So fair, fair criticism from the Patriot fans, But to me, 48 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: it's a nice compliment to what they have there. You 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: want Milton to get up the field and see what 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: barmore those guys are up the field guys, and now 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: you got somebody who can just do all the dirty 52 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: work that McDonald just eat up blocks. 53 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Also, it's absolutely a type of defensive lineman that they 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: that they like. And that's thirty one. You can't get 55 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: mad about anything. 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: Taking what's there? What are we doing today? 57 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: Greg Our show today is going to be teams without 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: a first round pick. So all your average draft shows 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: out there are focusing on the teams with picks a plenty, 60 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: But today we're going to give a little love to 61 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the teams that don't have any first round picks because 62 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: of the trades that they made. Kind of look at 63 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: where they are at after free agency and what they 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: can get done in the draft. So let's start with 65 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons. They do not have a first round pick 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: as a result of that twenty twenty five draft trade 67 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: for James Pierce where they moved up with the Rams. 68 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: They're really have a pick in the next three rounds, 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: the second, third, and fourth. They don't have a fifth 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: round pick, they're fourth and sixth. They're actually from Philadelphia 71 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: because of a separate trade. So look, they don't have 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital. And that James Pierce trade 73 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I thought looked bad when they made it. Then it 74 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: started looking better as the season went along. Although you know, 75 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: they had a mediocre season. You'd love to have the 76 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: first round pick, and now it looks terrible because of 77 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: the off field legal situation that he's facing. His status 78 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six is totally up in the air, 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: and they have a new regime DJ that we don't 80 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: know what exactly they're going to do, and they don't 81 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: have a first round pick. To you, is because of 82 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: the previous regime. 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you look at the thought process behind 84 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: this particular podcast, it's like, look, there's a lot of 85 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: college basketball podcasts right now. Hey, March madness, March madness, 86 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: but no, no March sadness. Let's talk about the teams 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: didn't make the tournament, you know what I mean? Like, 88 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: that's the vibe that we're going for here, and I 89 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: dig it I was a fan of it. I was 90 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: proponent of it. So when you look at the Falcons, 91 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the wide receiver position for them, and 92 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: at pick number forty eight, it just so happens my 93 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: forty eighth players Antonio Williams out of Clemson. Now they're 94 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: you know, not all those forty seven other guys are 95 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 2: going to go. There'll be some other guys that fall 96 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 2: around there. But I do think that's a good range 97 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: to find a complimentary receiver that could really help them out. 98 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: Antonio Williams ultra, ultra quick, competitive, great after the catch, 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: just a really solid player there at Clemson. I think 100 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: would fit in well in that offense. 101 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did kind of want to go through, 102 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: like what are their biggest needs? And we're on the 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: same page. I don't know if you saw my notes. 104 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Our preducedent crew. 105 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Said put the notes into the docs, so I did 106 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: it this time. I think their biggest needs number one 107 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So they do pick up a couple of 108 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers in free agency. A Lamite z Akias and 109 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: then Johan Dotson, who you know right now, are two 110 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: three on their list. Probably on a best case scenario, 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: would be three to four on an NFL team, So 112 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: they have some receivers, but I had corner back after 113 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: that where Mike Cues was getting torched quite a bit. 114 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Last year, they lost Cayden Ellis in free agency linebacker, 115 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I really have kind of a bigger question 116 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: for this team, which is like, what is this regime's 117 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: vision gonna be. I don't think free agency gave us 118 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: a ton to work off because they were really going 119 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: for guys at the margins. They got to a tongue 120 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: of Iloa at quarterback, they get Samson ebacom as an 121 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: edge and Deshaun Han. I thought they did an okay 122 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: job filling in some just huge holes so they can 123 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: draft wherever. But it's also a team when I look 124 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: at a DJ where they don't have a lot of 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: clear strengths, like what are the Falcons really good at 126 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: right now? 127 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think you look at some of the key players, 128 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: obviously with Bijon the offense running through him. But it 129 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: feels to me like they've almost in some ways with 130 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: what they've done in freegency, built around the style of 131 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Tua more so than the style of Pennix, where Pennix 132 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: is more of a drive the ball down the field. 133 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: Two is going to be more about run after catch, 134 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: quick decisions, get the ball out, be accurate, and the 135 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: kind of guys they've added so far to run after 136 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: the catch guys. So that's another reason why I've put 137 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: Antonio Williams in there. But that seems to be more 138 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: The identity is we're going to play in space. We're 139 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: gonna get our athletes, We're gonna get Beejon out in space, 140 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: pits London, you know, add some more weapons there, but 141 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: we want to get the ball out quick, get it 142 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: to them and let them go. 143 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Stefanski inherits the exact same offensive line as 144 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: a year ago. I think that's a strength for them overall. 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: And they lose a lot of players who played a 146 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: lot for them last year. Darnell Mooney, Tyler Elzier, David On, Yamada, Kanellis, Arnold, Debacchetti. 147 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: Like these guys were resourceful, good players for them a 148 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: year ago. They're a team where I look at them, 149 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to see like why are they better right now? 150 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: It's a team that could use extra draft picks and 151 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: instead because of the situation that they're hearing they're light 152 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: right here, so I feel like they could go in 153 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: a few directions and I still don't know, like what 154 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: is a Matt Ryan team. It does surprise me. Are 155 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: you a little surprised that they've been very hands off 156 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: with committing to Pennix to the point where it's almost disrespectful, 157 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: like they're kind of making it clear that Tua is 158 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: probably the leader in the clubhouse and that Penix will 159 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: have to earn that job back whenever he does get healthy. 160 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is interesting because when I talk to some 161 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: of their folks at the combine in the organization, I 162 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: thought they were excited about Pennex, but there was some 163 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: trepidation there of like, you know, hey, if if he 164 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: stays healthy, we feel like we can, you know, we 165 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: can win this division. And that was before they brought 166 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: in Tua. And then it was like, okay, was that 167 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: insurance or competition or replacement? And it definitely leaning more 168 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: away from the insurance side of that argument. 169 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: They also traded for Sydney Brown, the safety from the Eagles, 170 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: over the weekend. They're pretty good at safety with Jesse 171 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Bates Xavier Watts there, but like I said, like they 172 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: signed these guys Christian Harris at linebacker from the Texan. 173 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: That's not necessarily a starter. You could certainly use another 174 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: starting edge and then I mean a starting linebacker and 175 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: then yet edge. They signed Ebacom and Hand, who are 176 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: useful players. Again, but I think it speaks to that 177 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: you can't count on James Pierce. I don't know about 178 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: this team. I kind of slot them unless they have 179 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: like a great rest of the offseason behind the Saints 180 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and the Bucks and maybe even the Panthers in that division. Wow, 181 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: team in transition? Crazy? What are they excited about? Even Bajohn, 182 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: who's amazing. They don't have a backup running back. You 183 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: can find one, but that's a position I would say 184 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: they could absolutely use. All right, let's go to the Colts. 185 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: They do not have a first round pick as a 186 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: result of the Sauce Gardner trade with the Jets. They 187 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: have a second, third, a fourth, They have a couple sevens. 188 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: In general, they just have their regular picks. They did 189 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: get a sixth back from the Michael Pittman trade, but 190 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: that was just a swap. In free agency, they've they've 191 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: watched some good players go out the door. They traded 192 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: Zion Franklin they traded Pittman away, Quitty pay and Brandon 193 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Braden Smith and Nick Cross all got paid elsewhere. So 194 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: it's another team to me, kind of like the Falcons, 195 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: who on paper they don't They're a rare that I 196 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: don't think their fans even can look at them and say, oh, 197 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: we're better than we were at the end of the season. 198 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: The linebacker the Colts took in the second round that 199 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: was Rookie of the Year. When they also took the guard, right, 200 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: they both didn't they get the offense and defensive Rookie 201 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: of the year. This is going back Leonard Jack. Yeah. 202 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at this team and I'm going, Okay, 203 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: he's gonna revisit the past and he's going to try 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: and take a linebacker in the second round that could 205 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: very easily be the defensive rookie of the year. And 206 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: Jacob Rodriguez out of Texas Tech. So that's the one 207 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: that I like for them. Ultra ultra productive, instinctive, all 208 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: the all the all that stuff that doesn't require the athleticism, 209 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: and then he goes out and ran I think four 210 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: five to seven and proved he was a better athlete 211 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: than people thought. So all all that stuff together. I 212 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: remember Shack Lenard watched him coming out. He was two 213 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen pounds, but it was like, this guy 214 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: is just a stat stuffer. Like there's picks, there's force fumbles, 215 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: there's sacks. Like Rodriguez is not as long as him, 216 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: a little different body type, but the same type of 217 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: stat stuffing. So to me, I think that's that would 218 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: kind of be on brand for them. In the second round, that. 219 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: Would be an interesting pick. Now they pick up forty seventh, 220 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: that's actually one pick ahead of the Falcons, who I 221 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: think could use an off ball linebacker. So maybe they'll 222 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: be maybe they'll be sniping the Falcons with that pick. 223 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: There you go in the DJ mack. When do you 224 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: have to do like a two round mock? Do you 225 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: ever have to do that? 226 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: Never? 227 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: You're not slumming it like that. They got Eric Kettel. 228 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing like seven rounds or something. 229 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Oh dude, they get after it. They get after it 230 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: on those I much respect for Chad Ryder for doing that. 231 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: What what do you think about this team overall? Because look, 232 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: they are a team that in free agency they were 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: supposedly going to be in on Trey Hendrickson. They thought 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: they had a chance for him. He ends up going 235 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: to Baltimore instead. They signed Arden Key and Michael Clemens 236 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: to kind of replace Quitty Pay. They bring back, you know, 237 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: a couple of really low wattage guys, Cam Taylor Britt 238 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: who was with lou An Arumo in Cincinnati. They have 239 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook. Akini Like, that's a downgrade from Michael. That's why, Like, 240 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,239 Speaker 1: even though I like what they've done developing their offensive 241 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: linemen in general, this is a team that I don't 242 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: quite see the vision because it's kind of like, hey, 243 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: we're bringing back the gang, except we have our two 244 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: best players, Daniel Jones and sasgarter or maybe our most 245 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: important players. They should say. When it comes to Jones 246 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: coming off major injuries, You're like, yeah, we get them back, 247 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: but are they gonna be as good as they were before? 248 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one for me because look at 249 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: some of these other teams inside of the division. You 250 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: see them trending trending north. Now we'll see what happens 251 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: with the Texans and the offensive line with the swap 252 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: out and the swap in. If that's if that's an 253 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: upgrade at all, for them, But I think Jacksonville is 254 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: going to be better. Tennessee's got no choice but to 255 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: be better, and they're gonna have more resources to throw 256 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: at their roster after an aggressive free agency. I don't 257 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 2: really see this team as improved over last year, and 258 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: so as everybody else is getting better and you're kind 259 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: of staying still, that's not a great combination. 260 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: Do you think they believe in Riley Leonard more than 261 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: the outside believes in Riley. 262 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: Leonard to start, Yeah, to start early in the season. 263 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: I think that. I think all signs point towards that. 264 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I haven't been in on anybody 265 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: so or they believe in the superhealing powers of Daniel Jones, 266 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: one of the two. 267 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he'll be back at some point, and then 268 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's early in the season, but you have to 269 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: at least be ready. And at this point, Riley Leonard's 270 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: taking first team snaps. I'll be interested to see who 271 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: they sign. At some point, they should sign someone. Anthony 272 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: Richardson is still on the roster. I also think they 273 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: need some defensive tackles. They've been trotty out Buckner, who 274 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: was talking about was he going to even retire. Potentially, 275 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: he's still there. Grover Stewart is on the roster. They 276 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: lost Nick Cross. There's kind of a hole at safety. 277 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: I actually think they need a wide receiver. I think 278 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: that's a sneaky position for them because you trade Pittman 279 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: away and now Josh Downs is hitting free agency. You 280 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: also traded Ady Mitchell away in the Sauce Gardner deal. Suddenly, 281 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: that actually is kind of a thin position. And he's 282 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: been great at drafting wide receivers. So wouldn't shock me 283 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: if they look wide receiver in the second round. 284 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. I like that idea. There'll be 285 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: good options, so we just talked about that in that range. 286 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: So there'll be tons of white House. If you want 287 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: a white I think you can afford to wait on 288 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: that one. 289 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: And they're another team that needs a backup running back. 290 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Don't really have anyone behind Jonathan Taylor. Right now, let's 291 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: talk about the Packers, who have no pick as a 292 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: result of the Micah Parsons trade with the Cowboys. They also, 293 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, will be sending next year's first to the Packers. 294 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: They could go in a lot of directions. I counted 295 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: seven starters that they lost in free agency DJ. I 296 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: think that's the most of any team. In addition to 297 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: trading away Colby Wooden, who's a young rotational defensive tackle 298 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: who helped them losing their backup quarterback in Malik Willis, 299 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: losing their backup running back and Emanuel Wilson. That has 300 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of contributors. They have been a draft and 301 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: develop team. Like to me, they have a lot of needs. 302 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Where do you think they look first. 303 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 2: Well, at the running back position. If Jadarian Price was 304 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: somehow there, would I would take him there because I 305 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: just think he's a really, really good player. I think 306 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: this is a two running back, so I would imagine 307 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: he won't be there, But that would be a fun 308 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: one two punch there if they brought him in there. 309 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: And he's already used to being a you know, complimentary 310 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: back after being with Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame, so 311 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: be kind of a fun be a fun fit there 312 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: for that offense. But I'm gonna go edge rusher, getting 313 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: another guy they can roll through there. I think you 314 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: are going to see in terms of the copycat thing 315 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: we talk about every year with the last two teams, 316 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, being so deep along the front, having so 317 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: many waves of guys. I think you are going to 318 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: see teams really really reinforce the trenches. So I'll go 319 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: our Mason Thomas at fifty two edge rusher out of Oklahoma. 320 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: He's a little bit light, but he's got big time juice, 321 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: plays extremely hard and someone I think as you're rolling 322 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: guys through, I think he you know, think about how 323 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: Chennanawosu you know, is used, and how he's played and 324 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: what he's been I could see our Mason Thomas having 325 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: that type of impact. 326 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what the R in our Mason Thomas 327 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: stands for? 328 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: Nothing? 329 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you beat me to this. I thought I 330 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: would have one little nugget that No, that was it. 331 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: It just sounds cool. 332 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: Does sound cool? Like I said at the combine, it 333 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: sounds like the name of an author to go back 334 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: to our library. 335 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 336 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: And I brought that up to somebody in the league 337 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: and they said his best selling novel would be to 338 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: Kill a Quarterback? And I thought, I wish I would 339 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: have thought of that before you did, but I will 340 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: steal it. 341 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy to me, like the answer of 342 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: where they go it was I agree, like by far, 343 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: their biggest need is edge. I mean, you just traded 344 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: for Michael Parsons and it's not even close. Like Michael Parsons, 345 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: you got to assume is not going to be ready 346 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: for Week one. Lucas van Ness is your number two. 347 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: He's been a disappointment overall. Like he's an NFL player, 348 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: but he hasn't really developed in the way that you 349 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: would hope someone with his skill set would. And you 350 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: don't have a number three. Their number three edge right 351 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: now is Baron Sorel. Is that pronounced correctly. I don't 352 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: know if you remember. You're, yeah, like a Day three pick, 353 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and they don't really have a fourth. That's at this point. 354 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: If you had to play a game, that's your Week 355 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: one starting edge, Baron's route. I assume they're going to 356 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: get in the middle. For some of these veterans that 357 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: are out there, they're a team that screams for second wave. 358 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: On's the compic for you, Joey Bosa, Joey Bosa, Clowney like, 359 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: get like two of these guys. Cam Jordan is still 360 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: out there. There's still a decent amount of people. They 361 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: just need NFL players and they need they need their 362 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: first round picks. Like some of their old picks to 363 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: step up to. Jordan Morgan is now going to be 364 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: their left tackle. Did you remember your Jordan Morgan? 365 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of Arizona. Out of Arizona they've used it 366 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: was two years ago. 367 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: Right, he's going to be entering his third year. So 368 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: that's a twenty four draft pick, right, and they've used 369 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: them a lot at guard. This is me talking to 370 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: fill in the time. 371 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep going, get up. 372 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Okay, And this year they say goodbye to Rashid Walker 373 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and they're basically saying, all right, big boy, you've developed. 374 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Now you're going to be our left tackle. 375 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: All right. Jordan Morgan Arizona. He was six five, three eleven. 376 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: He just under thirty three in charms, left tackle coming 377 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: off an eight cel quick feet and absorbed twists, redirect 378 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: a little bit soft with the inside shoulder. Does have 379 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: good FBI football intelligence. He can recover plays with takes 380 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: good angles, plays with balance. He was my forty seventh 381 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: player in that draft. So there you go. 382 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: So you thought they had a little bit of a 383 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: reach and so far his relative lack of playing time, 384 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, would indicate me. Would you suggest that, Yeah, 385 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: I have a question, who is this is this is 386 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: one asked from our producer Drew. Do you think Josh 387 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: Jacobs could be a tradable asset to maybe get more 388 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: picks if they got a running back. 389 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the problem is is just there's no it's 390 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: a two running back draft, so last year there's a 391 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 2: lot more options there to do something like that. So, 392 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I don't think i'd I'd 393 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: be partying with the running back of any skill at 394 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: this point in time, with this class that we have 395 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: in front. 396 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Of us, I have to say I'm confused by their 397 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: offseason because usually they are all about the young guys. 398 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: They are still the youngest in the entire NFL, so 399 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: they are a draft and developed team. Their entire offensive 400 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: line was drafted except for Aaron Banks. All those receivers 401 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: were drafted in the last four or five years. Tucker 402 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Craft obviously like, these are all there guys. But then 403 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: they trade for guysz Ayer Franklin and Javon Hargrave who 404 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: were coming off kind of bad years. The guys the 405 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: teams that just had them didn't really want. I'm just 406 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: just a little confused about where the Packers are at. 407 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: I want I want them to be like better than 408 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: they are better than this. 409 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: See yeah, well it'll be uh, it'll be a big 410 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: year for them in that division because Chicago is not 411 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: getting any worse. They're just they're in continue to build 412 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: mode right now. And Minnesota is going to be fun 413 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: if nothing else. We'll see what Kyler, what that looks like. 414 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: It's an intriguing division and Detroit's going to be all 415 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: ticked off coming off last year. See what they do. 416 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting division year. 417 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: I think Jordan Love's just going to be full Jordan 418 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: Love and be like in the MVP conversation, with three 419 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: weeks left of the season, maybe that will be six. 420 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break as you suggested, DJ, and 421 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: we'll come back with little Broncos talk. It is time 422 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: for all in presented by Toyota. And yes, the Denver 423 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: Broncos fit that description. After the big Jalen Wattle trade 424 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: that messed with our podcast, that messed with your mock 425 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: draft at the last second, that is the ultimate all 426 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: in move, I think, DJ, let's just start with that 427 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: because I want to hear how you think that impacts them. 428 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: They not only lose their first round pick, they lose 429 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: their third round pick. And it's in an off season 430 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: where they've essentially done nothing else other than bring everyone back, 431 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: and then they're putting a lot of pressure on this 432 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: Wattle move as the move that kind of takes this 433 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: offense over the top. How do you see him kind 434 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: of fitting in before we get to the draft picks 435 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: of it all? 436 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally got it. I just when I was 437 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: going through the mock draft process when you get to them, 438 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: of all the teams, like there's just nothing staring you 439 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: right in the face other than you know, I think 440 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: they'd like to upgrade the running back or the tight end. 441 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: But they've got guys there. I mean, RG Harvey's a 442 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: good player. They bring back JK. Dobbins, his thing is 443 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: just hasn't been able to stay healthy. They've got Evan 444 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Ingram who's just been a little underwhelming from what the 445 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: expectations were there. But just about everywhere else when you 446 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: look at the roster, they're in good shape, Like they 447 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 2: have solid players across the board. So it's like, Okay, well, 448 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: who moves the needle for him? You're coming off of 449 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: a year last year where Jedai Baron didn't even start 450 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: for him as a first round pick, they're just not 451 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: many holes. So if you're trying to find impact and 452 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: impact right now on a team that's very close to, 453 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: you know, get into a Super Bowl, I thought it 454 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: made sense to identify a veteran you thought could come 455 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: in and impact you right away. And I do think Waddle's, 456 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, a great fit there, not only for some 457 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: of the run after catch stuff with you go back 458 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: to bow Nix and watch him in college at Oregon. 459 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff that they asked Wattle to 460 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: do in Miami's the stuff that Bo's really comfortable and 461 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 2: good with. And then you're gonna have all those design 462 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: schemed up winners where you're gonna have some of those 463 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: throwbacks and things like that. And I mean, he's gonna 464 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: be a fun toy for Sean Payton to play with. 465 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: He's gonna be fantastic because he doesn't even have to, 466 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: as you said, kind of win one on one anymore. 467 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Peyton is so good at getting guys open over the 468 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: middle of the field. I think of obviously very different 469 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: style players, but Michael Thomas and Lance Moore and Waddle, 470 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: like with a little space, I think end Up will 471 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: be a true number one by production I actually think, yeah, 472 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: people kind of look, Okay, it's him in Courtland Sutton, 473 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, one A, one B. I think it's gonna 474 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: be a pretty clear one in terms of volume. I 475 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: can just see Wattle really making it happen. So I 476 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: agree with you on all that, And yet history tells 477 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: us I'm a little wary of teams that just run 478 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: it back. What about the idea that like, yeah, their 479 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive line has been as good as any team, 480 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I would say, the last two years if you kind 481 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: of combine them and rank them, but you gotta find 482 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: your next generation of guys along those lines or else 483 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: suddenly it gets stale. A lot of times I've said like, Okay, 484 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: this is the best roster in the league, and then 485 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: a couple of years later it's no longer there. So 486 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: do you think that is where they end up looking 487 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: with their second round pick along one of the lines, 488 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 1: just building for the future, even if it's not a 489 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: huge need right now. 490 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just I don't love the defensive 491 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: tackle group in this draft, but there are some there's 492 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: some interesting guys along the edge that you could throw 493 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: into this pot here and just continue to have more 494 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: guys just kind of mix in and again go with 495 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: that same theory we've been talking about, which is just 496 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: waves and waves of guys. So when you're picking there 497 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: at pick sixty two, there's a couple interesting Michigan guys 498 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: that I think kind of falling around that range, And 499 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: Derek Moore and Jayshawn Barham they're both kind of in 500 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: that range for me. Gave Acus is another one, but 501 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna actually go with keiroon Crawford from 502 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: Auburn because they they are about juice, they're about get off, 503 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: and that's kind of what he does. He's raw, he 504 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 2: hasn't played a ton of football, so his best as 505 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: ahead of him, which again matches their timeline. You don't 506 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: need him to be some impact player right now. So 507 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: if trading the first round pick is to help you 508 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: for today, I think with pick sixty two they can 509 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: play a little bit more of that long game and say, Okay, 510 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: this is a player for twenty twenty seven. 511 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes all the sense in the world. 512 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad you know we're on the same Patriot. They 513 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: could look at right tackle, but the value might not 514 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: be there. Mike mcglinchy. I don't know if it's like 515 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: a long, long term answer, but you're shaking your head 516 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: that by the eyes. 517 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the tackles all run off the board. 518 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: Then I think there's a little bit of a lull 519 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: after that first group, and. 520 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if they take another swing at 521 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: running back. I know the Broncos fans probably want like 522 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: more of a premium player. I think the Broncos kind 523 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: of wanted more of a premium player. They were in 524 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: on some of the Travis etn like Kenneth Walker talks. 525 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: It just didn't happen. They got they got out spent 526 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: in the end. But I wouldn't be surprised if they 527 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: add to that position as well. But man, they're really 528 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: counting on Vance Joseph to keep providing a schematic advantage 529 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of these same guys to just stay 530 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: at that same level. It's a little dangerous. But if 531 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: you look at the additions and the departures, it was 532 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: all about re signings. No team had fewer, like they 533 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: literally have not signed an outside free agent yet. Jalen 534 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Watta was a trade, and then they only lost a 535 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: couple guys Jonathan Franklin, Meyers, Dre Greenlaw who was a 536 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: cut in PJ Lock. So you're basically getting the same 537 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: team back and they're gonna be one of the favorites 538 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. 539 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: So they could be in that next wave though, like 540 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier, that next wave of veterans 541 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: that could be in that mix. 542 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up with the Jaguars, team that, 543 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: similar to the Broncos, hasn't made a ton of moves. 544 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: They've only signed one outside free agent. That was Chris 545 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: Rodriguez from the Commanders, who's a running back who will 546 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: probably be the one bee behind Basel two and they'll 547 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: share the workload there. He's more of like a tough guy. Now, 548 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: that's the bad news. And they also traded their first 549 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: round pick in a Travis Hunter deal that I still 550 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: will defend, but right now it's not looking amazing. What's 551 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: good about the Jags? And I don't know if this 552 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: was intentional or not, but they do have still four 553 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: picks in the top one hundred three between eighty one 554 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: and one hundred and when I look at that, DJ, 555 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: and I listen to what you've been talking about, where 556 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: the meat of this draft is do you think they're 557 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: actually in a good spot there in this draft in 558 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: particular to get quality players versus some other drafts. 559 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Gladstone taking what he learned from the 560 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: Rams too. I mean, think about some of those years 561 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: where the Rams had a bunch of picks in this 562 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: range of the draft, which, if you're very you know, 563 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: there's two things about it. If you know what you're 564 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: looking at, you can find the great value there of 565 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: getting starters at a very cheap price. But there's also 566 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: the fact when you don't have a first round pick, 567 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: and I've been on a team a year where we 568 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: didn't have a first round pick, you get to spend 569 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: more time on this crop of players than the other 570 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: teams do. The other team's trying to sort out, you know, 571 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: if they're picking twenty seven who you know, they had 572 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: to really hone in on those twenty seven guys or 573 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: really probably those twelve guys think will be in their 574 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: pick range and do tons of homework on them. Where 575 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: they're taking that same microscope to the group of players 576 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: in this range of the draft. So I think it 577 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: helps your hit rate when you're in that spot. And 578 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 2: I do think in this particular draft, they can get 579 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 2: a lot of players, a lot of starters in that range. 580 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: So I think it's whether it was totally planned out 581 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: this way or for Tuitis. Either way, it's going to 582 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: work out well for him. 583 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a trade during the draft from the 584 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: Lions which netted them those extra third round picks in 585 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: addition to their own, so they now kind of look 586 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: ahead to this draft. And here's where I went with needs. 587 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: I would say guard is and again, this is not 588 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: a team I think with screaming needs. I think they 589 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: go into twenty twenty six with good enough starters almost 590 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: at every position, but many that could be upgraded. And 591 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: I would start with guard. I would think about edge 592 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: because Travon Walker is entering his free agent year and 593 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: they don't really have a third guy, and I just 594 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: think they're a team that's going to really value that. 595 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: But you could also say defensive tackle, really anywhere along 596 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Those are probably the primary ones, and 597 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: then cornerback, off ball linebacker would also be on my 598 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: long list of needs there. 599 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, the perfect fit and player is Keelan 600 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: Rutlige from Georgia Tech, who's a guard who I thinks 601 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: outstanding and plug and play, ready to go right now. 602 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: The tape's really really good. He plays, you know, I 603 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: think Tony Boselli will love him as someone who just 604 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: finishes and he's got a little nastiness to him, a 605 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: little edge to him. They are one of the more 606 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: physical teams. I've seen them a couple of times over 607 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: the last couple of years doing Charger games, and the 608 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: two of the more physical teams. I would say that 609 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: I don't know that they get talked about like that. Jacksonville. 610 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: Jacksonville and Tampa are too when you're there in the 611 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: building watching them like they're physical line of scrimmage teams 612 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: and this kind of fits that mode. 613 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: Well, you know who's listening right now and saying I 614 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: did that Trent valk I mean a little bit of 615 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: a vindication if Trent Balki had had a type, whether 616 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: it was in San Francisco or Jacksonville, and he was, 617 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: you know, persona non grada by the end. In Jacksonville 618 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: it was big, strong, physical guys and frankly, if you 619 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: think about what they did last year, wasn't a lot 620 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: of new players. They had a couple of free agent signings, 621 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: that worked out like Jordan Lewis, But for the most part, 622 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: they took the players that were there and just helped 623 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: them get better. And it is it is a big, 624 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: physical team. 625 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, so this that's a fit that I like 626 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: for them, big big guard at Georgia Tech. 627 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: How about the fact that on almost every one of 628 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: your picks you picked my first biggest need. It's like, 629 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: we're we're becoming. 630 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem here, here's the problem. When I 631 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: saw the original rundown, I thought Drew had been compiling 632 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: the list of needs, and so I was a little 633 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: bit working off of my faith and belief and Drew 634 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: to use that as a little bit of a guide. 635 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: But then I find out it was your list. Yeah, 636 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: and so we're probably gonna have to retake this thing. 637 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: We are not going to be retaping anything. I need 638 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: to run in and tape an NFL daily. 639 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 640 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this Jags team, by the way, I 641 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: think be fun. And I you know, I was thinking, like, 642 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: do they need a cornerback? And then I thought, oh, 643 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: Travis Honnor full time, you know, right. I was gonna 644 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: say the way their roster is set up, the fact 645 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: that they haven't traded Brian Thomas Junior. I don't think 646 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: they're going to trade Brian Thomas Junior in the end. 647 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: I think they were maybe willing to listen if they 648 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: got a godfather offer, but that doesn't happened. He really, 649 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: he really makes more sense for them at cornerback. That 650 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: defense looks pretty good. If he's at cornerback, let's go. 651 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's going to happen. He'll sprinkle on 652 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: a little offense, just a little sprinkle. 653 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, speaking of a guy who can, you know, 654 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: do multiple things. Check out Daniel Jeremiah on Move the 655 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Sticks on NFL Network and then on forties and free 656 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: agents in a week. We'll see that