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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire?

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Speaker 3: Pay up, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight oh year or Thursday,

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Speaker 3: December fourth, Oh my goodness, great Thursday night football game

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Speaker 3: tonight Detroit Dallas. We already talked about it earlier in

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Speaker 3: the week. I'm on the Cowboys plus three like it

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Speaker 3: a lot. I do think the over could be in play,

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Speaker 3: but unfortunately we're not going to dig into that much

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Speaker 3: because we have a great guest today, Chris Fialka, college

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Speaker 3: football dude talking about Miami versus Notre Dame had a

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Speaker 3: beat championship weekend. So you'll enjoy that interview. It's about

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Speaker 3: thirty five minutes, high quality stuff. He even throws in

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Speaker 3: some NFL bets, sorry NBA bets and NFL bets. You'll

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Speaker 3: love it. But real quick, I haven't chopped it up

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Speaker 3: with Rob g in a minute. So as we record

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Speaker 3: this the middle of Wednesday afternoon, the news just broke

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Speaker 3: a few hours ago from and anybody paying attention could

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Speaker 3: have seen this coming. The loss to Washington by the

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Speaker 3: Bucks this week pretty much broke the camel's back. Chams

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Speaker 3: is reporting that, and I think I guess Brian Winhurst

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Speaker 3: was on this as well.

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Speaker 4: In some capacity.

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Speaker 3: Jannis and his agent have started conversations with the Bucks

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Speaker 3: about his future, whether his best fit is staying or elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: A resolution is expected in the coming weeks. Now that

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Speaker 3: sounds goofy because you lose to Washington with Jannis, and

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Speaker 3: Washington was a two win team. That's humiliating. The Bucks

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Speaker 3: are not very good. They're on the outside of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: There's no path to them winning. I think they're one

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Speaker 3: in five when he doesn't play, They're just a talent.

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Speaker 3: You we could see this coming a mile away. But

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Speaker 3: this is my hot take, and I don't even think

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Speaker 3: this is that hot of a take. The Bucks need

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Speaker 3: to move Jannis before the deadline. Do not wait until

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Speaker 3: next summer. The price will go down, the market of

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Speaker 3: teams will go down. Now, obviously a huge wrinkle here

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Speaker 3: would be if Janna said I only want to go

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Speaker 3: to the Knicks. I don't see that happening. He's not

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Speaker 3: that kind of guy. I'm sure the Knicks would be

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Speaker 3: at the forefront. But you're telling me pat Riley can't

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Speaker 3: sell Giannis on South Beach. I don't think Giannis would

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Speaker 3: go to OKC. The Thunder, the best team in the league,

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Speaker 3: defending champs, best record, draft AMMO. As of right now,

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Speaker 3: the Thunder would have two top ten picks coming to them,

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Speaker 3: and they've got young guys. They can't pay all those

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Speaker 4: I mean, the OKAC Thunder is.

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Speaker 3: Sitting in a great spot, and I know that nobody

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Speaker 3: wants to talk about it, but I do believe the

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Speaker 3: Lakers could get in the mix. Hey, uh, Bucks, how

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Speaker 3: badly do you want to clean up your books?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Obviously you want as big of a haul for Giannice

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Speaker 3: as you can get. It would be nice to get

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Speaker 3: a bunch of picks, but not a lot of the

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Speaker 3: contenders have picks. It'd be decent to get players. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you want Karl Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 5: Is there a world where the Milwaukee Bucks say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we would take Lebron and then we're out of the

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Speaker 5: Lebron business after this year we start to clean up

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Speaker 5: our books, which they did the Miles Turner deal. Fine,

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Speaker 5: they did the waven stretch for Damon Lillard, so they're

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Speaker 5: gonna be a mess anyway. The problem is what is

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Speaker 5: their path back to becoming a factor in the East.

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Speaker 3: This was the year they could have made a run.

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Speaker 3: They tried it, they gave it their best effort. Remember,

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Speaker 3: Celtics are down. Pacers who were Game seven of the Finals,

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Speaker 3: are not even gonna make the playoffs. The Knicks are there,

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Speaker 3: the Pistons.

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's a believer. I think you gotta move Giannis at

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Speaker 3: the deadline. And I'll tell you right now. Toronto Raptors

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Speaker 3: are one of the hottest teams in the league. They

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Speaker 3: play the Lakers tonight. They've got some young talent. I

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Speaker 3: personally don't think much of the Raptors, but the reality

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Speaker 3: you know, the Kawhi Leonard if you will, the way

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Speaker 3: don't think so, but I think any discussion for Yanna obviously,

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Speaker 3: both the Knicks, obviously, both the heat I think the

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Speaker 3: Toronto Raptors who got I mean, listen, Minue. They got

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Speaker 3: I mean they got six guys averaging.

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Speaker 4: In double figures. So I'll turn it to you, Rob.

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Speaker 3: I would say there's three or four teams in the

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Speaker 4: People will scoff at that. That's fine. I don't give

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Speaker 3: The reality is everybody who thinks they've got any shot

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Speaker 3: at Yannis gets in the mix at the deadline.

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Speaker 4: But that does not happen in the summer.

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Speaker 2: Big facts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you believe that your team has even a

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Speaker 6: five percent chance of getting honest, you submit your offer,

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Speaker 6: like before this podcast even airs. Like you send the

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Speaker 6: text out and say, Hey, what's it gonna take to

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Speaker 6: get him to the Orange and Blue? What's gonna take

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Speaker 6: to get him here down the South, what's gonna take

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Speaker 6: to get him alongside? Look, whatever your team is, you

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Speaker 6: make the call immediately because guys like him historically do

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Speaker 6: not come around very often. If you exclude the Luca Tree,

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Speaker 6: because that happened the dead of night. That happened between

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Speaker 6: two guys who had a handshake deal that nobody else

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Speaker 6: knew about. When you have guys of this caliber becoming available,

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Speaker 6: the feeding frenzy is out of this world.

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Speaker 4: And for good reason.

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Speaker 6: Look, Giannis, I know they haven't had a lot of

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Speaker 6: playoff success since that championship. I think get three straight

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Speaker 6: one and dones actually, but a lot of it was

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Speaker 6: either number one Yannis was hurt, Number two Middleton was hurt,

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Speaker 6: you kind of almost forget how good Yiannis is until

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Speaker 6: the regular season starts the next year and you're like,

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Speaker 6: oh shit, like this guy's the real deal. Yannis just

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Speaker 6: looking at his Wikipedia page right, Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 6: You know, like, as long as he wants to play

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Speaker 6: So if you have a chance to get him, you

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Speaker 6: don't wait till the summer. You don't wait until Milwaukee

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Speaker 6: keep him happy. No, you got to strike while the

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Speaker 6: iron is hot, and to your go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say the stroke. I weren't in

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Speaker 3: lockstep here before the deadline. But Rob, the only argument

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Speaker 3: to wait is that this draft is loaded. There's like

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like Peterson.

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Speaker 3: I hear people saying he looks like Kobe, Like that's

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Speaker 3: a bridge too far from me, the kid from Kansas

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Speaker 3: one pick?

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Speaker 4: Based on that?

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Speaker 3: You say, we want the number one pick. We'll take

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Speaker 3: on bad contracts just so we get a young potential

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Speaker 4: I mean the kid Boozer a duke is very good.

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Speaker 4: It's a loaded draft. That would be the only argument

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Speaker 4: for waiting. Would you agree, Yes?

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Speaker 6: But here's the thing is, I don't believe the Milwaukee

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Speaker 6: earlier in the day there was a big hullablu about

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Speaker 6: and all kinds of things like that.

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Speaker 4: And I don't believe that.

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Speaker 6: The Bucks are like the Clippers, whe they're gonna be

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Speaker 6: cut through by any means necessary, where they're gonna disrespect

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Speaker 6: and like Chris Paul earlier on Wednesday. I could see

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Speaker 6: them saying, Giannis, we want to keep you first and foremost.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna do whatever we can to keep you. We'll

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Speaker 6: we'll try to talk you in, We'll do whatever we

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Speaker 6: have to do, but if you are how bent on leaving,

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Speaker 6: we will do our best to get you where you

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Speaker 6: want to go. Because he means that much to that franchise,

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Speaker 6: He means that much to that city, And so I

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Speaker 6: could see him saying, obviously, I want to go to

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Speaker 6: the Knicks. That's my first preference. I think he's made

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Speaker 6: that clear over the summer. But if you're gonna open

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Speaker 3: Do you think Memphis tries to pedal Jah Morant to

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Speaker 3: the Bucks.

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Speaker 4: Probably, I'm sure the Bucks will.

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Speaker 3: Just be like, yeah, that's a hard pass. The problem

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Speaker 3: with Yannis, let me just check. Hey, he's thirty right,

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Speaker 3: I think he's thirty one.

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Speaker 4: So that's the thing. This is a turn thirty one

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is not easy, Rob, Are you giving

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Speaker 3: up the number one pick to get Yanis? Because the

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Speaker 3: number one pick is going to be eight, nineteen or twenty,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have him for a long ass time. He's

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Speaker 3: maybe your guy for the next ten fifteen years Yannis,

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Speaker 4: Guess three more prime years, maybe four.

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Speaker 3: When you put it that way, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I would rather have Like it's Janis bringing let's just

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Speaker 3: say the Kings get the tight get the number one pick.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Even if you get.

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Speaker 3: Yannis and you can dump off zak Levine or whoever

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Speaker 3: you want on load, there's no infrastructure there for a title,

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Speaker 3: is there. So I don't know if it if it's

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Speaker 3: as easy as hey. With some of these bad teams,

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Speaker 3: they want to take a chance on you to build

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Speaker 3: around you quickly, Like I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: But he's not in a position to say I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to freakin' Charlotte. It's not gonna work.

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Speaker 3: Like, hey, LaMelo ball, I don't want to play with

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Speaker 3: Brandon Miller and Bridges.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know. Maybe you're right, Maybe it is

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Speaker 4: just the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: Carl Anthony gets it done, Karl Anthony Towns all the

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Speaker 3: picks you've got, and I don't know who else balances

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Speaker 3: it out. I'm not giving up Josh Hart Bridge. I'm

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Speaker 3: not giving up the farm for you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's basically I think with the contract, i'mbout

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Speaker 6: have to do a deep dive into this, you know,

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Speaker 6: later on after we record. I think you can kind

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Speaker 6: of do it with cat and picks, like just numbers wise,

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Speaker 6: I think the salaries match up.

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Speaker 3: The Bucks fans would just be outraged.

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Speaker 6: Sure, and that and and that's why I think if

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Speaker 6: you're in Milwaukee said, I don't want Carl Anthony Towns,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would, But at would they do?

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Speaker 4: How about this? This is spicy.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you noticed, but the Atlanta

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Speaker 4: Is that something you'd want again? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You want to see Jannis in the East? What four

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Speaker 6: Yana situation. Hey, yan Is, we didn't work with Dames Like,

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Speaker 3: Oh, we'll take Trey Young, you take all our pooty exactly.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. Since we've been recording, I've been

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Did we do that in the summer. We may have.

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Speaker 3: So the Warriors are kind of struggling. They don't look

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Speaker 3: Right after the Super Bowl, rob right into NBA trade

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports dance wants.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome back to Straight Fire, a college

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Speaker 3: football fixture for the last couple decades. He's on Big

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Speaker 3: Noon Kickoff, He's got the Bare Bets Podcast, Chris Felika.

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Speaker 3: He is also a long suffering Jets fan we'll save

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Speaker 3: the Jets for the very end of the pod about

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Speaker 3: whether he wants Simpson or Mendoza or neither, and how

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Speaker 3: let's start with college football. That's your wheelhouse, Chris. Obviously

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised that they moved All miss up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that was confirmation of when Charlie

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Speaker 2: affects on other results. As well if you go back

435
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Speaker 2: a couple of years. And I only know this because

436
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: I was very strongly in that the Alabama and Texas

437
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: should both be in. The prices on Florida State to

438
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: make the field that year were massive minuses, and the

439
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: prices on Alabama to make the field were massive pluses.

440
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: And that was a field day for me because I

441
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: really knew, just having an understanding of how this system worked,

442
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: what was going to happen. So if you're a Miami

443
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 2: fan out there, don't give up hope. And if you're

444
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 2: a Notre Dame fan, I think your best path in

445
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: would be a big Georgia Wayne over Alabama to give

446
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: Alabama a third loss and maybe give the committee to

447
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: re examine their resume.

448
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Speaker 3: So I don't know how the committee looks at the

449
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: season in total. I view it as like a kind

450
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: of two cars racing, right. So Miami beat Notre Dame

451
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: in the opener, they surge ahead, Notre Dame falls back,

452
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 3: Notre Dame f falls further back after the close lost

453
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Speaker 3: A and m But as the season goes on, you

454
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: inch up from Notre Dame's perspective, and then Miami starts dropping.

455
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Speaker 3: When you lose as a double digit favorite at home

456
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Speaker 3: to Louisville. That's a big drop. Then you lose again

457
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Speaker 3: as a double digit favorite. I guess a good smuteam,

458
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: but I think the line was ten and a half

459
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Speaker 3: or eleven something like that. So you're losing and Notre

460
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: Dame is just obliterating everyone, so they keep moving up.

461
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: Is now past Miami.

462
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: Yes, the head to head matters, but that was again

463
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: one hundred days ago practically, and now we're at the

464
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 3: point it's like, okay, so we still think.

465
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 4: Miami is behind Notre Dame.

466
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: Miami's behind BYU, but then you remove BYU and suddenly

467
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: Miami's better. When none of the ACC teams in the

468
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: championship played Miami this season, the only thing, the only

469
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Speaker 3: thing I can see movement is Notre Dame gets a

470
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Speaker 3: small bump. If Boise wins on Friday, I don't thinking,

471
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Speaker 3: but it's an actual result, like it's a data point

472
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Speaker 3: that hey, oh they beat Poise.

473
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Speaker 4: Bois's not trash.

474
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: They won the MWC, which is better than nothing, right,

475
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: that's got to be worth something, right.

476
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Speaker 2: I mean, it would probably help them as a minute,

477
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Speaker 2: like in straight the schedule, it might help them look

478
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: a little bit better, but this isn't a great Boise team.

479
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Speaker 2: And I don't think I agree.

480
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Speaker 4: I don't think agree, I don't.

481
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Speaker 2: I don't think that ultimately will do it. I just

482
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: am basing it on committee habits, committee history, and once

483
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: you remove by you from the from the equation, and

484
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: I think BYU is there kind of a buffer between

485
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 2: the two that will.

486
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: Get people talking.

487
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: Maybe you hit on that right there. This is a

488
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: TV show and they are making it up as they

489
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Speaker 2: go along. I am not saying that the Committee and

490
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: ESPN are in cahoots, but I think the Committee is

491
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: putting off making a definitive decision for as long as possible.

492
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say at Miami's biggest crime

493
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: is that they lost the conference road game in overtime

494
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: three days before the first college football Playoff rankings. They

495
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: were anchoring the initial ranking at the lowest possible point.

496
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: I think at that time there was probably a little

497
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Speaker 2: bit of a narrative and a little bit of a

498
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: belief from the Committee that Miami would just lose again

499
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: and who could blame them? Honestly, Miami had been four

500
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: to eleven in games in November or later under Crystal.

501
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 2: Weal sure they were going to lose either at Pitt

502
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: or Virginia Tech Day. They're absolutely, but then a funny

503
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: thing happened. They're actually playing their best ball of the year.

504
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: And if you look at a lot of the top

505
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: four or five since that loss, in terms like you

506
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: hard to play, differential points per drive, differential number one sack,

507
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: differential complete two percentage touchdown passes the number one. So

508
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: they are clicking right now on all cellars, and I

509
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: think that really is causing the committee to kind of

510
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 2: re examine things. And I get it from a Notre

511
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: Dame standpoint, like having the rug pulled out from Undie,

512
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: you kind of sucks.

513
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems a little goofy.

514
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 2: Well, I understood.

515
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: I was with you on the Florida state. I didn't

516
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: think they deserve to be in I was one hundred percent.

517
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: Now I didn't bet it. But now with your logic,

518
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: are you advising hurricane fans to go bet there?

519
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean yes, yeah, I think I have.

520
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: And I have been because I could. I brought this

521
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: up on Big Noon three weeks ago about how this

522
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 2: ultimately was going to play out where you Miami needed

523
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: BYU to lose and there was someone else was in

524
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: either utah to lose and they did, or they looked

525
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: bad and fell behind. Like b it was that you

526
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: could see the path and from Notre Dame. And you

527
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: have to draw a distinction here, like best power reading teams,

528
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: best teams. Notre Dame is one of them, so is Miami.

529
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: The resume for Notre Name is kind of flimsy, like

530
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: you look, their case for the playoff is, oh, we

531
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: lost two close games to two top ten teams and

532
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: now we're better. Okay, Well, I.

533
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: Think they beat everybody by double digits right the rest

534
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: of the way.

535
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: I believe that they the game the game against BC

536
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: was twelve ten late in the third quarter, was under

537
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: a minute to go against a BC team that was

538
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: one and seven at the time, and then they wound

539
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: up up winning. I believe it was twenty five to ten.

540
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: But when you're hanging your hat on that and then oh,

541
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: we're better now, well Miami's better now too.

542
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Now what way are they?

543
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

544
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: Wait then in the beginning of the season, yes, unquestionably, despite.

545
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: The two losses, as did your favorites.

546
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: Right now, as they are, they are better. They had

547
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: like six daughters down in the SMU game. So I

548
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: mean that doesn't get really brought up and I'm not

549
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: going to rely on that as a clutch. That still

550
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: should have won the game. But that game, they had

551
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: eight new defensive starters with a first time defensive coordinator,

552
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: Malachai Toni, a true freshman. It was his first career game.

553
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: He's now turned in he's the ACC Freshman of the Year.

554
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: He's turned into one of the most dynamic players in

555
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: college football. Gerard Pringle didn't play it down in that game.

556
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Another freshman who is now there go to running back.

557
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: They are a different team, a better team now too

558
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: than what they were earlier in the year.

559
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: So I mean Notre Dame was starting to quarterback his

560
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: first big time start in the rain on the road.

561
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: So again, like there's no right answer, let me ask

562
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: you this, is there a world where Miami and Notre

563
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: Dame both get in and the committee pulls the rug

564
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: out from us someone else?

565
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Yes? I think there is. I think if Alabama were

566
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: to lose and lose.

567
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 4: Or something okay in.

568
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: Soiling, yeah, I think that may. While I don't, I

569
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: think it'd be extremely hard for them to knock the

570
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: knock a team that played in the SEC title game

571
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: out because they want to continue these title games and

572
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: they want to value them. But at the same time,

573
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: Alabama hasn't played good football in a month. Alabama nearly

574
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: lost to South Carolina, probably should have lost in South

575
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: Carolina very easily, could have lost last week at Jordan

576
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: Hair blowing a big league turn the ball over three times,

577
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: and an embarrassing loss at home to Oklahoma kind of

578
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: slug past LSU a little bit. Ty Simpsons really struggled lately.

579
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Oh turned the ball out a bunch.

580
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 4: The Oklahoma game was a rough one for it.

581
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, gaated by two hundred yards somehow.

582
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: When they lose the game, you could argue that, like

583
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: everybody's given one mulligan, right, you don't have a good game,

584
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I mean Miami had you could I guess the Louisville game, right,

585
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: double digit think coronovers exactly that you would probably use

586
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: that as the mulligan if you were Alabama.

587
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: Hey man, the gauntlet it's tough.

588
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Materier was garbage coming off the injury against Texas, right,

589
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: and everyone other than Ohio State I should I should say, yeah.

590
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: And the thing about Alabama you talked about the Oklahoma

591
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: game being their mulligan. They've got the worst loss of

592
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: any of these contenders. They lost at five and seven

593
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: Florida States, Right, really really game.

594
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: That was the first game of the season too, right, Wow?

595
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, and so was Miami Notre Dame. So what

596
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: he was going to eliminate eliminate the first week of

597
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: the season from County.

598
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: I think you're right.

599
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: Both teams are dramatically different. I mean, Ohio State Texas

600
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: like Texas. If you do that rematch, I mean it

601
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: spread certainly under a touchdown, right, I mean that's that's

602
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: a hell of it. And so I don't know. The

603
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: whole relying on a head to head in week one

604
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: or two to me just strikes as like you said,

605
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: teams can't get better and improve. Yeah, it's a crappy situation.

606
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody's gonna get screwed here. I mean, you

607
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: make up a strong argument that maybe it is Notre

608
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: Dame to get shafted.

609
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were in the title game last year.

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: I would argue, if you know, if they're if they're

611
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: facing in the second, you know, if they're facing Old

612
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: Miss followed by Indiana.

613
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: I'm feeling confident. Notre Dame win in both of those so.

614
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: And I feel confident about Miami and this is doing

615
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: the same that. That's why this is a very rare year. Yeah,

616
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: I was not pro expansion. I thought four was a

617
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 2: good number. I thought it should be hard and elite

618
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: to get into this thing.

619
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: Who would the four have been this year?

620
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: Do we know? And that's the great question. Are you

621
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: gonna take all three teams from the Big ten? Because

622
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: in my recent power rank, oh, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon one, two, three.

623
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Now, now that's gonna get people pissed off

624
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: now that you're with Big Noon, would you have.

625
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Or I'm glad you brought that up. I'm hm, we

626
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: can't get thought about that. Oregon's defense is fantastic, and

627
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna get to Corey and Moore back, They're gonna

628
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: get Brian back, They're gonna get their offensive line healthy.

629
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: The Committee likes to talk about the best, most complete teams.

630
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: And in the midst of my sitting around on Sunday

631
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: afternoon having my eyes burned while having jeffs Falcons on

632
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: the TV, I started doing a bunch of sorts and

633
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of filters, and I was like, okay, best,

634
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 2: best and best, most complete, most deserving. Okay, let's take

635
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: a look teams that are in the top thirty and

636
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: straight the schedule. Teams that have a top twenty offense

637
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: and a top twenty defense in terms of efficiency, Teams

638
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: that are in the top nine of saggarin FPI and

639
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: SP plus power ratings, best teams sos I believe give

640
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: a tough schedule, and then top ten in game control,

641
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: which is I test numerical representation of the eye test

642
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: and dominance of a team. There are two teams that

643
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: meet all four of those criteria. Number one is Oregon

644
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: and number two is Miami. It's pretty and I wasn't.

645
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: Wait, Ohio State's not in there.

646
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State schedule is like outside the top fifty, so

647
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: that's yeah.

648
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: What what about india other schedule as well?

649
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: The Indiana's schedule is bad too, So.

650
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: How did Oregon schedule so much more difficult?

651
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Oregon has had a bunch of road games against top

652
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: twenty Sagarin teams. Washington was a road game against the

653
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: top twenty sagarin Iowa was Penn State. Still, despite the

654
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: six and six record, is a top twenty Sagarin team

655
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: and then they had Indiana, so they had four teams

656
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: in the top eighteen of Sagarin, three on the road,

657
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: so that kind of offset the poor non conference schedule

658
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: that they had. So it is interesting that the two

659
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: teams that kind of met the criteria for these most complete,

660
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: most dominant best Oregon in Miami, based on a little

661
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: bit of schedule adjustment. So we'll see what happens.

662
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: Wow. All right, so final, let's see hypothetical Alabama beat Georgia.

663
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: I have bet Alabama two and a half. I know

664
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people like Georgia.

665
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: That's fine.

666
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: Then I would assume Georgia falls out of three. For

667
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: Indiana loses to Ohio State, they fall out. Let's say

668
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: Texas Tech wins, so it goes to Ohio State one,

669
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: Texas Tech two, Oregon three.

670
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd move Oregon ahead of Indiana just

671
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: because Indiana went to Oregon and went one.

672
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: Mine.

673
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I think.

674
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: You'd have Indiana three, and then the debate for four

675
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: would be either Oregon or move Alabama all the way

676
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: up to four over Georgia and the rest of the

677
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: SEC club.

678
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: Interesting.

679
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: All right, let's get down to the games Indiana, Ohio State.

680
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm on the Buckeyes here minus four and a half.

681
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: I think if you like the Buckeyes, you probably should

682
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: bet Julian Saying to win the Heisman right now.

683
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: I just I love Mendoza.

684
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: I really like him, Chris, I'm worried about him and

685
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: is a tough spot for the kid. I say kid,

686
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 3: but he's you know, a double business mode to graduate

687
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: school degrees already. I like him as a pro. I

688
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: just think this is a difficult spot for him. I'm curious,

689
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: do you think there's any home field advantage.

690
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: If you will for uh, no, for the Hoosiers. Okay,

691
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: it will be.

692
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: It will be. It will be a large abound of

693
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: Buckeye fans.

694
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: Way, so the only argument would be Buckeyees fans know, hey,

695
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: we got to save up for the national semifinal and

696
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: the championship because we're going I don't know that Indiana

697
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: fans would do that. And what are the next time they're.

698
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 4: Going to be in the Big Ten championship game?

699
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, that is the biggest concern I have. In

700
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: the last part part of what you said, this is

701
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: like the crowning moment for Indiana. When are they ever

702
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: going to get an opportunity to go thirteen to zero,

703
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: win the Big Ten Championship, be the number one seed

704
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: in the College Football Playoff, that it would be number

705
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: ranked number one in the country, and the eight people like,

706
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: when is that going to happen again? And you couple

707
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: that with Ohio state emotional win beyond belief last week. Exhale,

708
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: you finally beat Michigan. Now you gotta go play this

709
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: game knowing that win or lose the Big Ten Championship game,

710
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: you're getting a first round by You're the ranning national champion.

711
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: You're gearing up to put your focus on repeating as

712
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: national champion. So the emotional kind of is it a

713
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: lightdown spot for Ohio State. That would have me a

714
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: little concerned, But I still think they're better. I worry

715
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: about Indiana's ability to run the ball against good team.

716
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: You look at Indiana's their running game really makes things

717
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: go against their bigger name opponents. This year, they kind

718
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: of struggled running the ball, and I'm not sure if

719
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: that happens. If Mendoza, despite that final drive that he

720
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: had against Penn State, if he can really carry this

721
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: team on his back to win over sixty minutes against

722
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: a defense that hasn't allowed more than sixteen points all year.

723
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I laid three and a half a couple

724
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: of weeks ago on the headline, on the look aheadline,

725
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: expecting this to run out to six or six and

726
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: a half and be able to potentially buy a little

727
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: bit back in Indiana did not. And the fact that

728
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: this keeps coming down. If you like India, if you

729
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: like Ohio State, he might just want to wait a

730
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: little bit longer because there's a there's a good chance

731
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: this hits four, maybe even comes back to three and

732
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: a half.

733
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like a public dog a little bit.

734
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: And drilled down on that Oregon game because I you know,

735
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: it's that happened a while ago. So Oregon had a

736
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 3: turnover on downs, missed the field goal, and through two

737
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: interceptions in their own end. Yes, like that was a

738
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: and I know the defense showed well for Indiana and

739
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: and more More had his worst game in the season,

740
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: but it was pretty clearly like, Hey, I don't want

741
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: to say they got a gift, but Oregon did everything

742
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: wrong in that game. It felt like I don't I

743
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: don't see OHI to stake beating themselves. But you had

744
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: a reaction to say and to win the Heisman? Where

745
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: are you on that heisman?

746
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: I think there is a case to be made for Diego.

747
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: Pavia Vanderbilt kid.

748
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: I did not necessarily think this two weeks ago, but

749
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: having sat and thought about it, the way the Heisman

750
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: voting is constructed, it is all regional. There's no other

751
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: candidate in the SEC in the Southeast. Povey is going

752
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: to get essentially every first place vote.

753
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: Nott region, Georgia does. Georgia does not have any not

754
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: the running back Oklahoma materrms. Too many games arts can't

755
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: get in.

756
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wow.

757
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So he's gonna be the SEC guy. He's going

758
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: to be named on every ballot and probably in first

759
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: on a majority, if not nearly every ballot. He's probably

760
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of the West Coast votes. People

761
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: are going to remember him from being in New Mexico

762
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 2: State and familiarity there. Mendoza saying, Jeremiah love Midwest Big ten.

763
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: They're probably going to cancel a lot of each other's

764
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: votes out now. I think it's Ohio State wins, saying

765
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: will probably get a lot of first place votes, but

766
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: he hasn't. People like I don't necessarily think it's wholly true,

767
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: entirely true, or it's mandatory. People like to talk about,

768
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: oh he didn't have a Heisman moment. He's a really

769
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: good player, but the fact that Ohio's state season has

770
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: been so drama less, he hasn't been in a massively

771
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: difficult spot. Now you could say, I guess on the

772
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: road down six nothing in ann Arbor last week, ye

773
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: touchdown touchdown pass to Smith, the touchdown pass to Tate,

774
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: that that that would be it. But I think there's

775
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: an avenue for for Diego Pobby to win if Ohio

776
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: State wins a big team, if.

777
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: The voting blocks are interesting. Who's favored right now? Honestly,

778
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: I haven't bet it.

779
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: Mendoze is favorite, and I think if if Indiana wins,

780
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: I think Mendoza will ultimately Yeah. So, but that wager

781
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 2: is really incorporating Ohio State. If you're looking to bet uha, I.

782
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: Like that regional angle.

783
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: That's good because it is the vote. It comes down

784
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: to the voters, and listen to some of.

785
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: The just to let people who are listening out there.

786
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't vote in this thing I have no I

787
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: can't be influencing anything with a specific vote. I can

788
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: just put information in my thought out there.

789
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,360
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790
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793
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't think Sayan's been the best

794
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: player in the country, but this is what we do

795
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: for awards now, NBA, NFL, are you the best player

796
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: on the best team, Let's give it to him.

797
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: Right, Drake may might win the NFL MVP.

798
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: There's no way he's the best player in the league.

799
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: No way.

800
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: That is a market that I think is wide open

801
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: right now to bet it could. Yeah, I don't know who.

802
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should be betting Dak. I

803
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: don't know if I should be betting someone else, Like

804
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: the Colts. Coults are gonna miss the playoffs, I think,

805
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: so you're not gonna give it to Jonathan Taylor, no

806
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: JSN like Sam Darnold, that's not gonna connelp you like

807
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna continue to fall down, Like who's it gonna

808
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 2: be after that? Like I think Dak at like eleven

809
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: or twelve to one right now, if the Cowboys were

810
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: to win that division and rip off about what eight

811
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: eight straight wins to end the year, he's gonna have

812
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: a great case.

813
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: Did you look at their last five? They might go

814
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: five and oh if they beat the Lions here Thursday.

815
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. I actually bet George Pickens last week

816
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: at one hundred and fifty to one to the offensive

817
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: player of the year.

818
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: No way, wow.

819
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: I bet the Cowboys at ten to one to win

820
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: the division.

821
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, let me look.

822
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: Let me see what I can find on Dak MVP

823
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: right now, because that's interesting.

824
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's eleven to one or twelve to one, or.

825
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: It could be dead Friday morning. If they lose to

826
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: the Lions is dead. But I've already bet them against

827
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: the Lions. I don't know where you are on that game.

828
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: I think the guy like the Cowboys in the game too,

829
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: and I hate being prisoner of the moment, but right

830
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: now they're better. The Lions have a ton offensive line injuries,

831
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: and now I'm going to catch the ball like I

832
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: was highing the Lions at the start of the year.

833
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: But hey, give me give the Cowboys credit. The trades

834
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: that they made have panned out for him.

835
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: So here we go.

836
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: Dak plus thirteen forty five.

837
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: That is not bad.

838
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: Win. If they beat the Lions, that's gonna be seven

839
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: to one.

840
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: So I think you gotta I'll take that.

841
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: I'll take some Jordan love as well. I'm a believer

842
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: to get read here back shortly. And who's the other guy,

843
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: the other receiver? Matthew Golden Golden, Yes, Golden, who's been

844
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: a bit of a Disappointment'm sure you've seen the numbers.

845
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 3: All right, I got sidetracked. Let's go back to college,

846
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: pab We're good. Do you have anything on Alabama Georgia.

847
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: I am concerned about liking Georgia here. I hate laying

848
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: two and a half. I hate laying numbers under a

849
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: field goal. But I just go back to that first meeting.

850
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: Alabama had a great first half and then Georgia ultimately

851
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: figured them out. Georgia's defense has gotten better. Georgia did

852
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: not have either of their starting offensive tackles in that game.

853
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: They may not have starting center Drew Bobo in this game,

854
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: which could be a problem trying to block up Tip

855
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: Keenan upfront. Frasier. They running back only had four carries

856
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: because he fumbled, they got benched. Right, Alabama has not

857
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: been everything. Logically in my head says that Georgia is

858
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: the right side here to get revenge. But I'm having

859
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: a hard time getting there. I went back and looked,

860
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: you know, from following my Twitter feed and stuff like,

861
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: if you favorites of three points are fewer in power

862
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: in conference title games the last five years, three and eleven.

863
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: Oh right up, straight up, Yeah, the market's telling you, hey,

864
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: we're not given three I know it's not home field,

865
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 3: but that I don't know who has homefield advantage.

866
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 4: It is in the state.

867
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Georgia maybe a little bit. But look at last year.

868
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: Texas was a two and a half point favorite in

869
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: this game, lost out right. SMU was a two and

870
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: a half point favorite against Clemson, lost out right. Iowa

871
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: State was a point and a half favorite against Arizona State,

872
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: got blown out. Louisville was favored over Florida State in

873
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three with the with the backup quarterback game

874
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: lost so fourteen and twenty four all time, three and

875
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: eleven the last five years.

876
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, point, this one's out of left field. But Joel

877
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: Klett did say it on The Herd on Wednesday. He

878
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: said that he believes Penn State is circling a coach

879
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: who's still playing currently still in like the playoff mix,

880
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: and he was going through names and he said, what

881
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: about Kaylen Deboor. I was gobsmacked, and I'm thinking kayland Boor.

882
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: First of all, he's a Sexton client, which sounds apparently

883
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: Sexton doesn't like Penn State.

884
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: Now that's the rumor.

885
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what's up with that, but listen, I

886
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: know Kaylen de Boor probably doesn't love the reaction in

887
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: the Deep South, like they're ready to fire him after

888
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: the FSU lost. Then he's a hero because he beats Georgie.

889
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: It's a little goofy. I think Debor is awesome. I

890
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: would be floored if he went to Penn State. Your

891
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: thoughts on that and then the Penn State search.

892
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: I would not be I would be surprised. I think

893
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: the path there is Alabama losing the SEC Championship game

894
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: and not making the College Football Playoff. I think that's

895
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: the path. If that were to happen, then Penn State

896
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: kind of gives him uh soft landing spot where hey

897
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: parachute him. You want to deal with this anymore come

898
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: out and Tea appreciated it. I don't. I ultimately don't

899
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: think it will. I think I think Penn State really

900
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: thought that they were going to get Clownie Sataki. I

901
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: thought they felt like they were in a good position

902
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: to do so, and then Crumble Cookies came in and

903
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: spoiled the party.

904
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: So we wait, let's let's back up a sec this

905
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: whole Penn State firing. Are you of the belief that

906
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 3: when they got rid of Franklin they thought Signetti was

907
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: in the bag, because you have to have a game

908
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: plan when you run off somebody like that.

909
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: No, I think it was I don't think they're regretting

910
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: firing James. I think they just it was just a

911
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: general like it was so toxic there amongst the fans

912
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: and his ability to win a big game and then

913
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: to completely fall apart again against U C. L A

914
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: and in Northwestern it was like, Okay, this is this

915
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: is done. But I do think that they thought they

916
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: would be able to get one of the big names

917
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: in there, whether whether it was who rules Signetti, but who,

918
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: And now that they're not, I think they're just gonna

919
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: ultimate land on Terry Smith, an alum. No team has

920
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: been playing great. I don't know Brahm is staying at Louisville.

921
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: I saw Heartline is going to us.

922
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: That's a whiff, Heartlines going to us. FU me. Brian

923
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: Gables name has been out there.

924
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think of that?

925
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they had success with a with an offensive

926
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: pro and offensive coordinator pro coach before when they when

927
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 2: they brought in Bill Brian and then the lowest point

928
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: in the program's history.

929
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: Christian Hackenberg days.

930
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: I believe right.

931
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I was so excited when the Jets drafted Christian.

932
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: I thought we were I thought we were on our way.

933
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 3: What about Dan Mullian. We had someone I'm not gonna

934
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to call him out, who came on

935
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 3: the pod and uh I started asking a round about

936
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: Dan Mullen. They were like, apparently some shady stuff went

937
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: down at Florida that isn't public. I don't exactly know

938
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: what it was, but why isn't anybody kicking the Dan

939
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: Mullen tyres?

940
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: I think probably. I mean, I wouldn't say year one

941
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: in EU n l V, but yeah, there must be

942
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: something there. I mean, I thought he did a good

943
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: job at Florida. He certainly a great coordinator as well.

944
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: How I would hire Dan and a hartbeat but maybe

945
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: just the behold, is he really gonna bolt on on

946
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: UNLV after one year? And I think he's kind of

947
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: come out and said, I'm happy here, but hey, happiness

948
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: yeah haply you bring out, you bring up like check

949
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: ye have happiness? Change?

950
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: All right?

951
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: Final?

952
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: When Texas Tech BYU twelve and a half, I'm seating

953
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: up to thirteen in some spots. Now you mentioned the

954
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: coach and the dalliance with Penn State, I would assume

955
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: they're locked in. It's tough to route a team twice

956
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: in a season, or maybe that's just a mind game

957
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: we tell ourselves.

958
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: But by he's going to be am for this.

959
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: Texas Tech knows it's clear and in onmadically best season

960
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: in program history.

961
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: Is there a world where BYU dials.

962
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: Up some interesting stuff here and they get the cover?

963
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: I can't yeah, cover, I could see. I can't see

964
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: them winning at right. If you look at the Power

965
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: five championship history with double digit favorites, they're four and

966
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: thirty four, the underdogs are and the last twenty six

967
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: have lost.

968
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 3: Out Right, you got to go back to twenty six

969
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: in a row six.

970
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: Two thousand and five Florida State over Virginia Tech. And

971
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: the last five years there have been five double digit favorites,

972
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: all of them won by at least twenty points. So

973
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: I think they're up against it. The teams may change,

974
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: but the type of teams don't change. Just in what

975
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: I think I said earlier, like Chase Roberts, their best

976
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: wide receiver may not play. Tech left a lot of

977
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: points on the board in that first meeting, and I

978
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: think just how good they are upfront in the trenches.

979
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: People think about Texas Tech and you think of Mike

980
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: Leach and offense and Patrick Mahomes in Kingsbury. This is

981
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: the number one ranked team the country in terms of

982
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: defensive defensive efficiency. They went hard in the portal on

983
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: defense on the defensive line there. They dominated the game

984
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: in the first meeting, holding by You like two hundred

985
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: and forty yards. I think it was I just have

986
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: a hard time seeing by You managed to score enough

987
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: points there, even though it is not in Lubbock but

988
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: a neutral set. I would be very very surprised if

989
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 2: BYU won this game.

990
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we could wrap up I know you

991
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: love gambling. The Yannis situation that started to develop, he

992
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: and his agent have started conversations about departing Milwaukee. I'm

993
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: of the belief they need to do this deal before

994
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: the deadline. If you wait until the summer, I think

995
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: the pool of teams shrinks considerably. I don't. I mean, again,

996
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: the Toronto Raptors are having.

997
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: A crazy season.

998
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: I doubt they would go all in for you, honest,

999
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: but I mean they did it for Kawhi and it

1000
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: worked out. Any thoughts on Giannis and how you would

1001
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 3: handle betting into that market.

1002
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean apparently like the only team he said

1003
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: he wants to go to was the Knicks.

1004
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: Right, that was earlier, but yes, that may still hold true.

1005
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean I actually bet NBA Finals a straight result

1006
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: Thunder over Knicks, OH Eastern twelfth to one. I mean,

1007
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference is very, very weak. I mean, I

1008
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: don't think any of those teams.

1009
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: Hey Detroit, put some respect on their name.

1010
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: Leak.

1011
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: Come on, Pistons, Look, Kate Cunningham's a star.

1012
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: I had Kate Cutt last year. I had a Pistons

1013
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: win total over and I had Kate Cunningham most improved player.

1014
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: And wow, this is why I didn't even know you

1015
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: bet NBA like that.

1016
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: I bet futures, Oh yeah, awards, awards and futures. I'll bet.

1017
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, night in and night out. No shot.

1018
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: I've been loaded. My guy Will Hill, who we have

1019
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: with the bar Bets Pod and does some writing for

1020
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Fox sports dot Com, we've been We've been betting the

1021
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: Thunder from twenty five to one all the way down

1022
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: to break the record to win seventy four games, and

1023
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: I think as of today, I think it's now down

1024
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: to five to one.

1025
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, and then the Jets, I say,

1026
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: it looks like we I'm gonna say we are not

1027
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 3: going to get Mendoza.

1028
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: I mean, hell, I think the Jets might beat the

1029
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: Dolphins this weekend.

1030
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: Frankly, the weather looks like it's gonna be cold. I

1031
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: don't I don't know.

1032
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: He all of a sudden love the Dolphins.

1033
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not much love.

1034
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: If anybody watched that Saints game, Oh my god, Toua

1035
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: looks washed. Anyways, the Jets, I don't think they can

1036
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: get Mendoza. Right, There's just too many quarterback needy teams

1037
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: ahead of them. Raiders, Browns, Saints. However, is there another

1038
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: quarterback you'd look at?

1039
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: Ty Simpson? Not not that early, but.

1040
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: The interesting name that if he comes out. We've seen

1041
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: Dante More suddenly mocked in like the top five again, Like,

1042
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: if he comes out, that that would be the guy

1043
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: that I would be very interesting in potentially taking.

1044
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: But it doesn't seem like he's coming out right.

1045
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: Hey, if he's mocked in the top five, he's probably

1046
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: got to come out right.

1047
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: Possibly.

1048
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: I know.

1049
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: I know Oregon and I know Nike. They got all

1050
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: the money in the world out there to be able

1051
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: to try and keep him. But I don't know. Wouldn't

1052
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't you, wouldn't you?

1053
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: I think he should come out.

1054
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: I just I'm not one hundred percent sure. Let me

1055
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: give you a name that I think will rise up.

1056
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: You're mister college football. You know all these boys, guys

1057
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: Sawyer Robertson at Baylor. I keep hearing good things, huge arm,

1058
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 3: multi year starter. You seem nonplus like a mid round pick.

1059
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, mid mid round, shot.

1060
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: Five, third, fourth, fifth, take a flyer.

1061
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: Exactly, That's what we're talking. Yeah, and nothing nothing earlier.

1062
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: And then I think I think the Jets are probably

1063
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: now in the position where where they're picking, you take

1064
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: the best available player that you can, whether it's whomever,

1065
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: if who along that.

1066
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't love Caleb Downs. I love Caleb Downs, but

1067
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: not that early. Sorry three someone.

1068
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: Like that at that reek. They have to happen to fall.

1069
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they're there. But the fact that you got seven

1070
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: picks in the in the first couple of rounds the

1071
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: next couple of years, that's where you go next year,

1072
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: hopefully knock on wood. You've got a chance maybe to

1073
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: take Julian saying you've got maybe an opportunity to take

1074
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: Dante more if he comes back. I think arch we don't,

1075
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't, we'll see. But I would

1076
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: let all of the quarterback needy and greedy teams have

1077
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: at it and just go for it.

1078
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: And would you trade up forre Mendoza. No, I wouldn't either.

1079
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: Let me ask you the other thing. So you mentioned

1080
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: saying you're you're on the field, you're at the stadiums

1081
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: I got to ask Julian, Sayan's listed at six to one.

1082
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: He looks like he's maybe six one.

1083
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: No, no way, it's like sixtek tall.

1084
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: So you're taking Julian saying number one is six foot quarterback.

1085
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: Probably not no way. I know.

1086
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Speaker 3: I listen. I like him, he's great, you might win

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Speaker 3: the Heisman. I'm not taking him in the first round.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: No. And I think you've seen this struggles that Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young has had. His height has been a big problem,

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Speaker 2: I think, and successful.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we could do this all day, but it's

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Speaker 3: got a real job. Chris FeliCa Bare Bets Podcast. He

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Speaker 3: will be on the ground, boots on the ground for

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Speaker 3: Indiana Ohio state.

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Speaker 4: It should be. It should be a barn burner, Chris.

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Speaker 3: You know, Happy holidays to you and the family.

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Speaker 4: A good chatting up.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely same teacher Meck