1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to our special Friday holiday edition of The Giants 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Little Podcast, brought to you by citizens Official Bank of 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the Giants. I am John Schmilch. Thank you so much 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: for being with us today. Everybody. Hope everyone had a 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: great Christmas to those that celebrate, and you are now 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: relaxing after a lot of the fun but also hard 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: work if you have children is done. Now. A little 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: bit of a trunkcated episode today, given the holiday week, 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: I didn't want to bother somebody out in Las Vegas 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: with the time change and all that stuff. In terms 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: of doing a hardcore opponing game preview, giving these two 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: teams records, I didn't think that was worth it this week. 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: So we're just gonna have the coach interview with Bob Papa. 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: He'll interview Mike Kafka. That'll be our second interview on 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: today's show. But we're gonna lead off with one of 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: the giants best position players this year on offense, one 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: of their skill guys, Wander Robinson, closing in on the 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: possibility of a thousand yards receiving for the first time 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: in his career. This is my conversation with him, joined 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: by Giants wide receiver Wando Robinson, Wandel Mary Chrismis Man. 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: How are you, Mary, christ I'm doing well. How was 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: your alladay? 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: It was good, I said, you know, you got the chill. 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: And then next week a lot of my family will 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: be up here for my birthday. Day after the. 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Dallas game is my birthday, so oh very good. 27 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: So they'll be up here to celebrate both of those. 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: And but no, that was good, though. 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: What'd you do? Uh? 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: I just really chilled at home, watch, watched all the games, 31 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: watch football. It's about it. 32 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: At a lot of backup quarterbacks. Christmas Day? 33 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: Huh, it was a lot of backups. But you know, 34 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, still still good to 35 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: watch the. 36 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Football, Absolutely no doubt about it. So what was it 37 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: like growing up? Did you like having the birthday and 38 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: the Christmas like close together? Or you wanted to kids 39 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: get that, you know that kind of get annoyed by that. 40 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: I kind of got a little because my mom would 41 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: always tell me you're getting half of your gifts for 42 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: christ another half for your birthday. So I'm like, okay, 43 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: well because they're ten days apart. But now I don't 44 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: mind it too much, you know, just knock him out 45 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: both around the same time. 46 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: So absolutely, Well, let's let's talk at your quarterback. Jacksons 47 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: are furth. We just talked about a lot of backups. 48 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: You have, your starting quarterbacks are ready to go. What 49 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: has it been like kind of seeing him develop live 50 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: and in person? You've been around a lot of quarterbacks 51 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: year as a member of the Giants. What has it 52 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: been like kind of see him coming to his own 53 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and figuring out how to play quarterback in the National 54 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Football League. It's been great. 55 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, you know he's gonna have his ups and downs, 56 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: but you know he comes and prepares the right way 57 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: and does everything that you want your quarterback to do. 58 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: And you know, you can just see each week that 59 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: he's kind of growing in certain some aspect of the game. 60 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: And I think that's all you can ask of him. 61 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: What was the adjustment you had to make going from 62 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: dj to Russ then to Jackson, given how unique all 63 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: kind of three of their play styles are. 64 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I say he probably has a little bit 65 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: more spin on the ball than those three es. He 66 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: can spin it whenever he wants to put some heat 67 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: on it. And then also I say, obviously you know 68 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: his legs just the way he's so mobile, and you know, 69 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: no play is dead with Jackson back there. So luckily, 70 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: a couple of the big plays that I've had have 71 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: come off him just you know, creating outside the pocket 72 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: and me just making sure that I find finding him 73 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: and finding them where he's got to go. 74 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, they're called out of structure plays, right, That's 75 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: what people got to call them. But how much structure 76 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: is there too? Out of structure plays? You know what 77 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, how much do you guys really kind 78 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: of practice all right, well, if this play, if I'm 79 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: rolling right, this is what I want you to do, 80 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: how much do you guys really kind of work through 81 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff? 82 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: I'd say earlier, whenever he started, it was definitely a 83 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: bigger emphasis. But now you know, we've kind of had 84 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: that chemistry that we don't really have to really talk 85 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: about it. I think, I know, if if I have 86 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: a guy beat and I know that I can get 87 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: him going down the field, just go ahead and go 88 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: that way. Or if I you know, I got to 89 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: shut it down to make sure that he just has 90 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: a valuable target. 91 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Do you know on a certain play where the space 92 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: is going to be if he does either climb the 93 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: pocket or roll out, so you kind of know where 94 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: you can find space in those situations. 95 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: I would say a lot of times just knowing all 96 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: the route concepts that are on the field and knowing 97 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: where certain guys are going to be. You know, if 98 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: I know nobody's really kind of behind me or anything 99 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: like that, I know I have a chance of going 100 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: deep and even if there is somebody behind me, just 101 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: kind of giving that threat that I am going to 102 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: run past you, but set it down and go come sure. 103 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: So it feel like to the main choices right either 104 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: to your point, and I guess it's for a receiver 105 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: this is probably perferctble. You want to get over the 106 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: top down. If somebody got you know, someone starts looking 107 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: back in the backfield, they lose tracking, you can get 108 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: to get behind them. Other times you want to work 109 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: your way back towards the court back to give an option. 110 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: So how do you kind of figure out on which 111 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: play which is the kind of the better option few use? 112 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: I'd say a lot of it kind of depends on 113 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: the doubt and just since obviously you know third down 114 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: and really just trying to make sure that I get 115 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: to where the sticks are and making sure that we 116 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: get the first and being a little bit more aggressive 117 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: on first and second now you know, just wanted to 118 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: hit that big play. 119 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Have you seen teams now that they've kind of seen 120 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Jackson do what he does out of structure, get out 121 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: of the pocket, and by the time, have you seen 122 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: teams adjust not only what they're doing up front to container, 123 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: but also what they're doing back in to make sure 124 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: you guys can't find that space over the top. 125 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean you definitely start to 126 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: see teams a little bit they're staying keeping more contained, 127 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: maybe throwing a little bit more spy at them, and 128 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: then you know, just guys making sure that they're trying 129 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: to get get their hands on us whenever he breaks 130 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: the pocket, just to make sure you can't create a 131 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: bigger place. 132 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about you. You're one hundred yards away from 133 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: a thousand be your first one thousand yard year, sir. 134 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know a lot of players don't like 135 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: to do the season is over, But have you had 136 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: a chance to kind of look at your year and 137 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: think about why, besides obviously being healthy the whole year, 138 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: you've been able to kind of take that jump this 139 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: year and have your best years of pro and youre four. 140 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 2: I'd say it's just being able to run all different 141 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: kinds of routes, you know, not just really being in 142 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: the underneath throw like I was. I felt like last 143 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: year and this year, and they kind of let me 144 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: start running some bigger routes and playing on the outside, 145 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: doing a little bit more of everything. So you know, 146 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: it's been great. 147 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, your average George for catch is way up from 148 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: what it was last year. How much of that is 149 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: the fact that the team has gone to a lot 150 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: more too tight end stuff, which to a point has 151 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it forced the outside, but it 152 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: certainly has. Since you're one of the team's the world 153 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: wide receivers, you're gonna be in there in an outside 154 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: role because they're playing tight two tight ends. So much. 155 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say, I mean, I think it has a 156 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: great deal to do with it, you know, getting that 157 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: twelve personnel said and play action coming off of that, 158 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: just being able to run the ball well, and you know, 159 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: they're just giving me the opportunities to go out there 160 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: and get open kind of one on one out there 161 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: on the island. So it's been great. 162 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: Though, I mean, and I imagine the tight ends, you 163 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: take some of that underneath stuff, right, so there's more 164 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: stuff the top. 165 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: Of the right, more stuff. I get to go down 166 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: the field running crossers, kind of throwback routes, so like 167 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: faking a little cross during going back out and just 168 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: doing things like that. 169 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like this year they've really leaned 170 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: into I mean, I'm sure as a wide receiver, you 171 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: see a play and you have that deep over route, 172 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: that's probably you're like, all right, yeah, now I got 173 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: a chance. I got open field. There's a positive corners 174 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: playing outside technique. Especially he's not to go hang me 175 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: across the field. And then to your point, you start 176 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: showing that, well if I fake that and I go 177 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: back to the flag, then they get to over pursue. 178 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: So when you see kind of those longer developing route concepts, 179 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: you just start salvating a little bits of wide receiver 180 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: that this is my chance to make a play. Yeah, 181 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: no doubt. 182 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: Especially you know you kind of see single high and 183 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: you know that you're one on one with the corner. 184 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: You're like and especially like sometimes they give me an 185 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: option where I can go to the cross or or 186 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: I can break it back out, so I get the 187 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: option of whatever I want to do and just kind 188 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: of how I want to play with the route. 189 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: So really, even though you know everyone thinks of the 190 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: option routes is you're on the slot, you're one on one, 191 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: you can either the inside or out or stick and whatever. 192 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: So you're giving the option on some of these deep concepts. 193 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: You can read the corner in safety and run whatever 194 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: you want. 195 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I say, I get to go basically a 196 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: fifteen yard option route, and just at the end of 197 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: the day, they're just like, go get open. So all 198 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: I can ask for for my coaches, you know, like 199 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: I said, they're putting me in great positions to go 200 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: out there and get open. 201 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: I've talked to you a lot about the advantages of 202 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: playing the slot, two wags and all that sort of stuff. 203 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: As you've played more outside wide receiver this year. What 204 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: are some of the advantages you think a wide receiver 205 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: has being able to play closer to the sideline on 206 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: the perimeter. 207 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: I feel like you don't get brad. I feel like 208 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: whenever I'm in the slot now I get a couple 209 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: more bracket coverages and things like that. God's pushing to me, 210 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: especially in zones on the outside. You know, sometimes it's 211 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: just more like, you know, you just got to go win, 212 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: and you know, sometimes that's exactly what I want to do. 213 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: What kind of additions did you have to make to 214 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: your game, whether it's maybe releases and stuff like that. 215 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Did you have to make this offseason to have the 216 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: type of success playing that non slot role that you've 217 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: had this year. 218 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say I definitely added a couple more releases 219 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: to my package, and you know, just focused on being 220 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: a complete receiver. Was down in Atlanta, didn't really take 221 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 2: any breaks, you know, just was kind of full throttle ahead, 222 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: just training and just doing everything that I could just 223 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: to make sure I was a well round the receiver. 224 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Now you've been through some changes year. What has it 225 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: been like just just for you dealing with all the changes, 226 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: whether it's a head coach, the offensive corner, or just 227 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, kind of go through the whole gamut as 228 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: to all the changes you've had to deal with over 229 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: the course of the year. 230 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: It hasn't been too bad, obviously, I say. Luckily, I 231 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: have a pretty good relationship with Cap, had a pretty 232 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: good relationship with Daves, and so I was always able 233 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: to talk to them about anything that was going on 234 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: and about what I wanted any game plan, or how 235 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: I felt about a certain route. So it's been at 236 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's still been pretty good 237 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: for me. But you know, everybody still has to adjust 238 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: to how everything's going. 239 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about the Raiders. Patrick Graham runs a lot 240 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: of different types of zones. Season allowed to cover three 241 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: this year. If if I remember that the percentages, right, 242 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that that he does 243 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: with that pass defense, Because it's actually been pretty good 244 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: this year, even though they've strolled a little bit as 245 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: a team. What do they do from a pass defense 246 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: perspective that might give your pass offense a little bit 247 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: of a trouble. 248 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: Today, I'm in they like you said, they just are 249 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: able to match and they match some stuff pretty well. 250 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: And you know, they play like they're really smart their 251 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: sticks awareness, especially on third down and stuff like that. 252 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: And you know, they got the they got some guys 253 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: that can run in I say at the linebacker level. 254 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: You know, they can run and carry, carry crosses and 255 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: stuff like that, which you would think would be those 256 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: covered three things. But you know, just being able to 257 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: find that space and get. 258 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Open and no big plays. They really kind of put 259 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: a little over it over the top. What is it 260 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: about the way they play that allows them to prevent 261 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: those big plays? 262 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like those corners they're getting, the're getting up out 263 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: of there, the safeties they play pretty deep too, and 264 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: then whenever they want to change it up there, like 265 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: you said, they're just keeping a shell on top of 266 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: the defense and not really trying to let guys get open. 267 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: Is that the importance of being patient in a week 268 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: like this where don't try to force it. If you know, 269 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: if they're giving me that seven yard stop, I'll take 270 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: the seven yard stop. Yeah. 271 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: So you just got to kind of take what they 272 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: can give you. And you know, we like to say 273 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: this is going to be a big run after catch 274 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: the game. You know, find find the find the voids, 275 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: and you got to make your magic happen after the catch. 276 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Is it really important for you to get to a 277 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: thousand yards? Is that like is that something you've thought 278 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: about that some people matter, some people. 279 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: A Yeah, I mean i'd say it for me for sure. 280 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: I say, you know, gout my size, you usually don't 281 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: see guys going for a thousand yards and you know 282 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: so and so slot guys, and you know, I think 283 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: it's just big for me to hit that accomplishment. I 284 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: think every receiver it will tell you that that's an 285 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: accomplishment that they all want to want to hit. And 286 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: you know, just being really really close, you know, I'm 287 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: shopping to get it. 288 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Finally, have you thought at all about what this 289 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: offseason might look like for you just in terms of 290 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: like big decisions and by the way, and some of 291 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: your decisions, some of the team decisions, see whatever happens happens. 292 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: But have you kind of thought about what this might 293 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: be like the first time you've ever like, I know 294 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: you transfer to column, but it's really the first time 295 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: you've a free agency, you know what I mean. 296 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've thought about it a little bit, but try 297 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: not too too much. At the end of the day, 298 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: you know, let my agents and stuff handle handle everything. 299 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: And right now, just trying to go out there and 300 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: play my best football and then everything else will take 301 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: care of itself from there. 302 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: And I know we've spoken before. Obviously you like being 303 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: here right being there. 304 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: I love New York. I love being up here. 305 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Mondo, good stuff, man, good luck on something. Sim 306 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Robinson Gihn's wide receiver. Hop get in here. If you're 307 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: lined up here, you gotta go over the middle with 308 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: at the score great. How do we make that happen? 309 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, but. 310 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: Does it makes sense if your money with CITIS since 311 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: official bank of Eli manning great So. 312 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: From one though Robinson there just to remind their Johnsontal 313 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the official bank 314 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: of the Giants. From game day celebrations to your everyday 315 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: financial needs, Big New Fans can get the most out 316 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: of everyone with Citizens. Learn more at Citizens bank dot 317 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: com slash Giants. All right, now let's get to the 318 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: interview with the hey coach of the New York Giants, 319 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka Bob Popas spoke to him. 320 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: We're joined by the head coach of the New York Giants, 321 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: Mike kafkan uh coach. First of all, belated Merry Christmas 322 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: to you and your family. I know you had a 323 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: little different week as far as the schedule was concerned 324 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: with the players. Just talk a little bit about how 325 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: that whole thing unfolded and sort of the way you 326 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: feel it all played out this week. 327 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to 328 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: you as well. Yeah, so this you know, this week, 329 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: you know, had an opportunity to talk with the leadership 330 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: Council and talk through the week and you know, really 331 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 3: kind of lay the schedule for how we want to 332 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: handle the holidays. And it's I think it's a unique 333 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: it's unique things that happens again, you know, in the 334 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: middle of the week, kind of middle of the work week. 335 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: So we made a decision and talk with the guys, 336 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: and we thought it was important that you know, we 337 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: kind of pushed our weekly schedule up one day, so 338 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: instead of giving an off day on Tuesday, we give 339 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: them the off day on Thursday, which happened to be Christmas. 340 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: And you know, it all worked out. We you know, 341 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: we thought that was the right thing to do in 342 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: terms of our our team, our guys and the Leadership 343 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 3: Council and our coaches, and I think it worked out well. 344 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: It was good to kind of get, you know, get 345 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: the bulk of the install first, second down, third down 346 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: stuff early in the week, have a day off, enjoy 347 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: with our families, and then here we go. We're back. 348 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: We're back in on Friday and rolling. 349 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: All right, so let's talk about this game that you're 350 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: taking on the Raiders today here in Las Vegas. This 351 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: is a Raider team that obviously has had their woes 352 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: this year and a record that's the same as yours. 353 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: But when you put the tape on it and you 354 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: watch the way they competed last week against Houston, or 355 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: you'd look at you know, the fact that their game 356 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: against Jacksonville was a one point game, and so many 357 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 4: other games that they had this year that they've been 358 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: in it. What are some of the things that you 359 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: watch this team that say, hey, this goes on the 360 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: board right here. If we don't do this, this team 361 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 4: can really hurt us here. 362 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think overall all three phases, these guys do 363 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: a really nice job. But obviously they're well coached with 364 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: coach Pete Carroll, he does a great job. He's got 365 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: a winning pedigree and a championship pedigree that he's carried 366 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: with his entire career. I got a lot of respect 367 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: for him and how he operates. And these guys just 368 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: play their tail off. You see it all over the tape. 369 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: You see it on offense, see on defense, special teams, 370 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: or tackleing on the run around. They play with great 371 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: team speed, and so you know, these are just these 372 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: are just the things that are just popping off on 373 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: tape for me. But on top of that, you gotta 374 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: you handle, you know, just the elite players they have, 375 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: and I know for the offensive side, and you know 376 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: Max Crosby and the way he operates and the way 377 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: he plays, He's he's certainly you know, a guy you 378 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: gotta know where he's at on every single play. 379 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. From a defensive standpoint, would you would you say 380 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: that they're a moderate blitzed level team. Do they bring 381 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 4: a lot of heat at least tendencies that they've shown 382 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: so far. 383 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say their defensive coordinator Patrick Graham, he does 384 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: a nice job mixing it up. Not every game is 385 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: the same. I don't think they're trying to hit a 386 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: quota or anything like that. I think they're going to 387 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: have a you know, a specific game plan for how 388 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: they want to attack us. 389 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: And whether it's a. 390 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: Lot of pressure, whether it's a little pressure. We've got 391 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: to be able to handle both of those and have 392 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: and have the ability to adjust to whatever they want 393 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: to throw at us. 394 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: Coach, I thought last week, speaking of pressure as you 395 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: went against Minnesota, I thought the old line did a 396 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: really nice job last week for the most part. I mean, 397 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: you're not going to shut shut down talented players completely. 398 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: But when you look back on it, how would you 399 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: assess the performance of your old line under pressure considering 400 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: that they're probably going to face some more this week. 401 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been really proud of how our offensive lines 402 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: played this entire season. You know, no one game will 403 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: define us, regardless of what the result is. But I think, 404 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: you know, our guys have been there. We have a 405 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: veteran group guys stepping up now. You know, we'll see 406 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: how things shake out this week. But I think it's 407 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: been a great room. I'm really excited about it, really 408 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: excited about the room there. And they're playing their butts 409 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: off man in run game, in the past game, pass protecting, 410 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: and going against some of the elite top end rushers 411 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: in this league and doing a really nice job with him. 412 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: Coach, I want to ask you about Wandelle Robinson, who 413 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: has a chance to get over a thousand yards for 414 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: the first time in his career. He's obviously been really 415 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: tough for you this year. It takes a lot of shots. 416 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: He's made some big plays for you. Can you just 417 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: talk a little bit about because you've been around him 418 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: since he's been here, sort of his maturation as a player. 419 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I love Wandell. He's kind of 420 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: the heartbeat of the offense in terms of just creating energy, 421 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: doing everything the right way. I'd love for him to get, 422 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: you know, to get that milestone in terms of a thousand. 423 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: I know, you know, talking with him, he wants the 424 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: w you know, he wants he wants us to get 425 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: win first and foremost and let those other personal accolades 426 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: kind of. 427 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Come with it. 428 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: But you know, I think I'd love for that. I'd 429 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: love that for him just because I've been around for 430 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: such a long time. I know what this guy means 431 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: to the team. I know what he means to me, 432 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: and that'd be cool. That'd be cool for him to get. 433 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: That, you know, Coach Jackson dart last week against Minnesota, 434 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: the numbers weren't there, but with that said, there was 435 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: an opportunity to win the football game once again, you know, 436 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: like breaking that seal as a player, especially when you're 437 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: a young player, to get one of these fourth quarter drives, 438 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: to get one of these things under his belt. Is 439 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: that one of those things where you feel like once 440 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: he and this team, you know, sort of get a 441 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: taste of it, that it becomes learned behavior. 442 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, obviously, you know you don't want you 443 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: want to win the games. You want to be able 444 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: to win these games without having to do that. But 445 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: I mean that'd be ideal, But. 446 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: It is the NFL, Right, it's the NFL. 447 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: They're all close, They're all going to be one point 448 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: one score, probably come down to the last drive type 449 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I think the more you're in 450 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: these situations, and we try to do this in practice, right, 451 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: we try to simulate these situations in practice, and you 452 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: know there's a winner and loser. It's not like we 453 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: just go and just leave. Like we try to make 454 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: it as competitive as possible and either an offense is 455 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: gonna win or the defense is going to win that drill. 456 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: And so yeah, you build those you build those learning pathways, 457 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: you build those opportunities for growth, and then when you 458 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: get into the game, now you go and nail that situation. 459 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, the more times we're in it, 460 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: the better off will be. And I think Jackson will 461 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: continue to learn and grow from those. 462 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 4: Coach we appreciate a couple of minutes. As always, we'll 463 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: do it again next week. Best of luck today against 464 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: the Raiders. 465 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: Sounds great. Thank you very much. 466 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 467 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man. But if you're 468 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk 469 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd 470 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: like to learn about a Mollia routine. Yes, I knew 471 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: I could help make sense of your money with Citizens. 472 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: Really good stuff from Mike Kafka. Thank you to him 473 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: and Wandell Robinson and Bob Pop as always for joining 474 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: us on this Friday edition of the Giants Total Podcast. 475 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Of course, both these teams on long losing streaks. They're 476 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: tied for the worst record in the National Football League, 477 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: so not a lot of stake record wise, but two 478 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: young teams trying to continue to play better football and 479 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: try to close their season on a winning note. Of course, 480 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: for those that are interested, there is the draft implications 481 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: in this game as well. The loser of this game 482 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: good chance they will have the top overall pick in 483 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: the draft. For the Raiders, that could very well mean 484 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback, whether it's Finana Mendoza or somebody else. 485 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: If it's the Giants, more likely than not, that's an 486 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to trade down out of that top overall pick. 487 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: Find the team looking for a quarterback. Stack draft picks, 488 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and try to put yourself in good position moving forward 489 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: to continue to fill out this roster. If you're the 490 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, but of course the Giants trying 491 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: to win this football game on Sunday in Las Vegas, 492 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: the final road game of the year for the New 493 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: York Football Giants. Thank you for joining us today, everybody 494 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: on the Giants Totle Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, 495 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: the official bank of the Giants, in the Hackensack Boney 496 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Hill Podcast. To you keep getting better, I'm John Schmelch 497 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: again thanks to Bob Popp and Mike Cafkin Wanda Robinson. 498 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: We will talk to you next week.