1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: This is like a little bit of a dream. I 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: feel like I'm dreaming right now, thank you, because you 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: and I are in bed together with a giant Teddy 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: giant bear. 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Guys. Yeah, perverse fantasy. You never knew you need. 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: She's been wanting to say perverse for like perverse. I 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: kept trying to think of that word forever, like what's 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: the word for this? Nailed? 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: It is the word. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: And I'm wearing your t shirt. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: I love that so much. Yeah, and this is kind 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: of fitting because the I had a giant, well not 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: this giant, but a Teddy Bear on my first album. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Cover my gosh, I own that album. 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: I had the tape, I had the tape, the cassette, 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I love that. How many pencils did We always loved 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: that cassettes when they came loose and you had to 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: get perform. I forgot there's an Instagram post with that 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: where there's like surgeons with a cassette really on the 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: operating table with the vessel. 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: I think I ever. I think I just moved on 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: to a new tape. I don't think I ever. Yeah, 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: I'd have my little cassette player and I used to 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: listen to your music. For some reason, I used to 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: like to go into my bathroom and sit on the 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: toilet and. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is information I never knew. 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: I know, I did. No, I wasn't even like peeing 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: or pooping. I would just sit in there because I 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: love to listen to your music and cry because it 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: was like it felt like this, like oh, this speaks 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: to me, this is my life as a teenager. So 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I would just like sit there and. 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Like, oh, I love that so much. I put on music. 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: I have music I put on now that like it 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: purposely it's a cry yeah. 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Or it just makes you feel something. It makes 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: you feel like you're like in a movie. 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I do that. I put movie Life on the Beach 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: and yes, go into the movie montage, just being in 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: your emotions. And I'm so like when I hear that 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: my music did that for you or for anybody out there, 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: it's still mind blowing to me. 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: It's really Surreal's that, like, is this still shocking to think? 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: Like you've had such a huge impact on millions and 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: gazillions of people's life. 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: It's insane to me. 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: Like I and you're so normal. 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's what I really know. 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: You guys like aw yeah. 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: And as for you, like I showed up here today 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: and we're just like, hey, yeah, yeah, it's that's what 56 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I really pride myself on, because it's just I don't know, 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to just be like a 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: good grounded person in life first and foremost. I think 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: that's the mission. But yeah, like I've been doing these 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Electric f thirty fifth Aniverse three shows, right, and I'm 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: always up there, Like literally I could cry because I 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I wrote those songs as really my passion and my 63 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: hobby originally. And then to think, you know, thirty seven 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: years into us all knowing this music together, we're in 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: this theater at this venue or whatever, and I think, 66 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: just like what you just said, how many collective memories 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: are in this room this one song? You know, I 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: sing Foolish Beat or I thing lost in your Eyes? 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: And I think people tell me you know everything from 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, my first kiss, my first slow dance. Oh 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: this hearing your voice helped me come out like people 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: it's and back then it was just considered this fun 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: kind of bubblegummy hooky music, but like the impact of 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: whatever that was for people is so it has been profound, 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: and so I cant yeah, I kind I can't believe 76 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: this is my life get. 77 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: And it's amazing that it like surpasses generations because now, 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like my kids, I was playing 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: your music, so I was like, this is my friend 80 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: the podcast, and they're like, oh, we know, we know 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: her mom, we know music. It's on TikTok because now 82 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: people like I love that the younger generation. I love 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: the people now because you know, so everything's in again. 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: You love the bear. 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I love the bear. I mean it's a little I'm trying. 86 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: To like get cozy. 87 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's better? 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: Is that better? 89 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: That's maybe a little better. 90 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: It's weight, it's do you want to sit between his legs? 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Kind of want to? Oh that's comfortable. 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so cute. 93 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: That's comfy. 94 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Hi she was She was singing before we started, and 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this would be so nice. 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: I I can maybe go off ambient. If I had 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Debbie Gibson in my bed every night just singing me 98 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: a lullaby, I. 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: Made it should be an ANI commercial. 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: I used to take Ambien, Like, so, I that's truth 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: and advertising. My assistant's jotting down. 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: Ambient to sell ambient. 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: That's a really good Why haven't I done any sleep 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: sleeping pill commercials with? Yes? That is? 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: Wait, do I get a referral fear or something? 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: You get something fat of that? I don't know. I 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: mean I won't take much something sleep. 109 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Wait did you ever eat on Ambien? 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: Not that type of Amien taking, I don't think so. 112 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I think it just put me right out. Okay, Oh 113 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah. I have a good friend that takes 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Ambient and he'll call on Ambien and it's really fun. Oh, 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: I mean he just kind of yeah, or he'll be 116 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: like walking around like he used to live in New 117 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: York and be like I just walked around. 118 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: Because it literally takes your memory from you, like you, 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: I know, people were like you said this or that, 120 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: and you're like you You're like, I don't remember. 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I think I flirted really inappropriately with 122 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: with one of my friends who I should not have 123 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: been doing that with on an ambient call. I'm not 124 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: friends with him anymore, not because of that. It was 125 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: just someone of a certain time. But yeah, I did that, 126 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I totally didn't remember what I said. 127 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: I sleep pretty well now now I'm like, if I 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: don't sleep all through the night, I think I'm supposed 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: to be up processing something and I just go with 130 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: it now really, Oh yeah, I don't take anything anymore. 131 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: I just I just make really strange recipes on anbion. 132 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: It's anything that you wouldn't think goes together somehow goes 133 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: perfectly when I'm concocting. 134 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: So funny. 135 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's I had this thing. I was like, 136 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: I want it because I wouldn't tell my friends. They'd 137 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: be like, oh, here's what I made last night. I'm like, 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we should put a cookbook together, like 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: an ambient cookbook. 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ambien needs to be like sponsoring your 141 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: podcast and my tour now because we've just we've just 142 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: given them so much love and airtime. Oh oh my god, 143 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: that's hysterical. I love that you have Missus Beasley over 144 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: there too. 145 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: I do, and Missus Beasley in the corner and a 146 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: cabbage patch and a cabbage tack. 147 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: I have an original cabbage patch from when my grandma 148 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: braved all the the Grandma's the stampede to get the 149 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: cabbage point right. His name is Homer. He's a bald premie. 150 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: His name's what Homer, Homer, Homer Homer. 151 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: I forgot his middle name and he's a bald premie. 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I wanted a bald PREMI do you. 153 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: Know what mine's name is? 154 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: What? 155 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: It's me? Victoria Davey. Oh mom. My mom had a 156 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: store in the eighties and she carried cabbage patch dolls there. 157 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: And Xavier Roberts, who created it, actually signed They're all 158 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: on the tush have a stamp of his name. This 159 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: one's actually signed by him as well. 160 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know date the Davy part, how do you 161 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: spell it? D A V. E. 162 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: Y is my middle name and it's after my grandfather 163 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: who passed my name with David. So I've kind of 164 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: gone with that with my kids. 165 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: They have. 166 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I like middle names. Are people that have passed 167 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: that we loved. 168 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I love the male female twist names like that. 169 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And my my second youngest son, his name is 170 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Finn Davy. Because we had so many kids, we ran 171 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: out of loved ones that have passed. 172 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: So, oh my god, how you do it? Everybody out 173 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: there parents. Hats off to you. I have two docs 174 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: ands and I need to help take I need people 175 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: helping me take care of my wife. It's I don't 176 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: know how y'all. 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Do it hard. Docksin didn't like me. 178 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: No, he's just you know, it's always the little ones 179 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: that they puff out their chest. And I wish imitate 180 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: you that he would have. He would have been on 181 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: your lap in five minutes. But he just was, I. 182 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: Know, not j his job. Yeah, I'm a people pleaser, 183 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: but I'm also like a huge dog lover, so I 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: do get bum when dogs don't like me. 185 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: No, no, no, he would. 186 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: He wouldn't understand. I love you. 187 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: When we have our sleepover party where you're making crazy 188 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: recipes and I'm yeah singing and. 189 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: You're singing to me. 190 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: We well, bring Joe, I'll warm up to you. 191 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm actually watching this in my head right now and 192 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: it's really good. 193 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 194 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: Should should we like live stream it just for Shure singing? Totally? Should? 195 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is that another really funny. 196 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh we create good ideas. 197 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: We have to go out on the town. T Are 198 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: you single? 199 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: See you single? 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Me too? Let's do it? Could you imagine us out 201 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: on the don't. I don't really go out a lot though, 202 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: I just I'm such a I don't know. I either 203 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: do plans with really good friends, but I'm super low 204 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: key about the same. Usually if I'm in well out here, 205 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: I do my RV. Like, so I live technically I 206 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: live in Vegas, that's where my home is. But I 207 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: live in my RV and I'm out here. 208 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: So how often are you in LA I'm. 209 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: In a lot. I mean, like, if I'm not touring, 210 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: which is a lot, like I have twenty six or 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: so shows coming up for the rest of the year, 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: which is nuts, then I'm between Vegas and here. But 213 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: then it like kind of started to become more here 214 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: than there, because who doesn't want to wake up looking 215 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: at I mean, I was never a beach baby. And 216 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: my late mom, she was originally from Florida, she was like, 217 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, the beach, the beach, the beach. She grew 218 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: up in Florida, spent her childhood years there, and I 219 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: was like, I'll get it. I just don't get it. 220 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I was in New York, you know, give 221 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: me the city. And then I discovered it my way, 222 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: which is this way with the r V. And it's 223 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: still very kind of bohemian and I love it so much. 224 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: I always wanted to live there and then I had. 225 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Really it's really fun. 226 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: I'd have to have a million RVs. 227 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I do you need like a tour 228 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: bus which and they come there too, they they pull 229 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: in there. It's really really cool. I just love the 230 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: I love the freedom in it. But yeah, I'm I'm 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: out here quite a bit now, so I'm there part 232 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: of the year. 233 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I love it. So why originally. 234 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: Vegas my ex my now ex, Well, yeah, so I 235 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: was living I was living here, I was living in 236 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: la and then I moved in with him and then 237 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: we were back and forth to Vegas a lot. It's 238 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, the suburbs of Vegas are kind of like 239 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: living in any nice mountain town. Like I like it 240 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: better than most suburbs in the world because it doesn't 241 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: feel that so again, it feels mountainy, like you wake 242 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: up every day and you see them. You know, I'm 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: not far from Red Rocks, and like, I've learned to 244 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: love the West Coast and nature and sunshine. And then 245 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: you've got the Strip twenty to thirty minutes away. If 246 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: you want it, right, And every now and again, like 247 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: the weird thing is, I'll wake up and I'll be like, 248 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: like if it's super hot, like it's summertime, I'll be like, 249 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: I feel like walking. You just you can go to 250 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: a casino, you can go to Caesars and just like 251 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: walk around and kind of lose yourself. Like it's weird 252 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: to have a place like that to go twenty four hours. 253 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: So every now and again I use Vegas for weird 254 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that, Right, but you can always get a 255 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: nice meal or go to a nice show, or you 256 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: don't have to go anywhere near the stream. 257 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: It's true. 258 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: So it's really cool. I mean too, they have best rest, 259 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: great food, and you're just a hop, skip and a 260 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: jump from here anyway. 261 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's like me living in the valley. 262 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm hop skipping a jump to the West side. Yeah, 263 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: but I never go. But we're gonna go. 264 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna go do something. 265 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Are we going out in La or Vegas? 266 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Two blondes on the town. We're bringing this teddy Bear, 267 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: No kidding, We're gonna go. Well, every want we can 268 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: go both, we can do both. Mm hmmmm. 269 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: So I mean you're so busy, do you feel like 270 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: you even have time to date? 271 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question. I'm not really a 272 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: dater anyway. I'm more of like a meet someone, connect 273 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: with someone, connect you know. I'm just like it's on. 274 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: So I've never been a dater either. 275 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it's I kind of know when I 276 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: meet someone if it's you know, I don't know. I'm 277 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: so picky with my time and energy, which sounds as 278 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: you should be just am, I'm I'm. 279 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Your Debbie Gibson. 280 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: Of course, thank you. Now, I feel like you know 281 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: my life. My life is so idealic, like I've set 282 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: up my life so that it's designed exactly how I 283 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: like it. So if something falls short of that in 284 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: any area, I don't want to bother like dating or whatever. 285 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: And so, but I'm at the point where I have 286 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: found like I feel like it's the person that comes 287 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: along and suddenly are creating this space for them, you know. 288 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to I want to keep talking 289 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: about dating, but I want to go back to you've 290 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: designed your life, you share somebody, I could do that 291 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: with my life, how do you? 292 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's easier because it's easier because I 293 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: don't have kids, so for sure that makes it easier. 294 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: But I will say this, like for me and my career, 295 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: which I feel like you're doing by having a podcast, 296 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: it feels like you're doing just a lesson behold and 297 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: you could be to people and to any big machines. 298 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion, the better your life becomes. And the 299 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: thing about it is like, so my badass manager, Heather 300 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: who I who was like my mom's protege for eight 301 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: nine years in the nineties early two thousands, took over 302 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: for my mom to go over the management and we 303 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: really have been We have hand picked who's on our 304 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: team and everything I do. Like, if I ever vent 305 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: about the schedule being crazy, it's mine. I created the schedule, 306 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: so you know, I really look at things. I look 307 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: at like on tour, I'm not a how many shows 308 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: can I do in a row? I'm a realist. I'm like, 309 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm singing top of my range, like I have to 310 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: have these kinds of day these days off. I also 311 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: now that I have the RV that's like my mini 312 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: tour bus, and I want to see things I don't 313 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: want to just I love doing shows, but I don't 314 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: want to live just for the shows anymore. I really 315 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: look at my life with like how can I balance it? 316 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: And how can I leave time for unexpected things to happen? 317 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: And how can I really rest? You know, people say 318 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: I'll sleep when i'm I'm like, yeah, but I want 319 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: to be rested while I'm here to enjoy things. And 320 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: I need to sleep a lot. So I built in 321 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: nap time and sleep time. 322 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: And this blows me away. Wait have you always been 323 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: this way? 324 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I was with Atlantic Records. I'm working 325 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: on my book and I talk a lot about this 326 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: in the book. So I was with Atlantic Records. You 327 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: know those I get the first year. I love that. Yes, 328 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: you can do that. Listen to the audiobook. I will 329 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: do an audiobook. 330 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Well can you read it to me? Like just a 331 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: couple of times here with all were. 332 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Perfect? Oh my god. So you know, I started on 333 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: a major label and all that, and and eventually it's 334 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: like the fun and confusing part about being me, or 335 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: maybe to the outside world, is like I'm a mainstream 336 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: artist and how I write songs and how I like 337 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: to put on a show and all that, but I 338 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: have an indie spirit. So it's like, you know, I'm 339 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: doing things the hard way, but in a way where 340 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: like when people come to a show of mine, they're 341 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: stepping into my world. Like it's a world that's so 342 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: specific to me. It's not like one of the big promoters, 343 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of had anything to say, or I 344 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: look at every website of every venue and go is 345 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: this the right venue for this particular show, and like 346 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: everything's just you know, I think, like I told you 347 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: about my Diamond debheads, my core fan group. They're my community. 348 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: They are like my family. They're with me because of that, 349 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: like we have this unique experience that we're all in together. 350 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: I feel like New Kids does it too, and they've 351 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: done it now on this huge scale with like my 352 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: summer tour, a mixtape tour which I was part of. 353 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: And. 354 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Like they would never find a label that would understand 355 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: their fandom and what they have developed. It's like we've 356 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: all built our thing over many, many years and over 357 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: because we're being authentic and I think our audiences know that. 358 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, So there came a point in my career 359 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: where I literally walked away from ten million dollars in 360 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: advance of money and said I can't sleep at night 361 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: doing it your way, my way, but my way, but 362 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: your way. But like it's you start feeling like you're 363 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: selling your soul and the audience starts going, I thought, 364 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I know who you were, But now I'm a little confused, 365 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, me too, because I'm it's that 366 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: art and commerce balance, you know. So for me, it's 367 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: that getting the RV was this hugely freeing thing. For me, 368 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: it was like, let me explore my adventure, like that's 369 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: my form of adventure. 370 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: And I didn't really understand. Sorry, you literally travel in 371 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: the RV from Vegas here. 372 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Yes, but I try. I've put thirty thousand miles on 373 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: it around the country with a driver. But then I 374 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: get behind that when I'm not napping on it between shows, 375 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: I'll get behind the wheel. Like last tour, I learned 376 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: how to downshift in this the same way Washington and Oregon. 377 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 378 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: So it's become this little it's I feel like I 379 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: don't even know how how I would have been touring 380 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: the last couple of years without it, because tour buses, 381 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: the rental and the union drivers and the like, it's 382 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: a whole thing. So I've just figured out how do 383 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: you look. 384 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: To pay for that? 385 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, what like, we'll put it this way. So 386 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: when I did the mixtape tour with New Kids, like, 387 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: they pay me a lovely sum of money, but a 388 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: lot of it is going to the tour bus and 389 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: the driver, and the driver has to be in a 390 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: union and you can only drive certain hours and you 391 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: can I didn't. Girl. I parked this in a Walmart 392 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: parking lot. Me and my driver go, do you want 393 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: to sleep a few hours? You will sleep a few hours. 394 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: You get up and I jokingly say, you buy a 395 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: They make the best French cruller anywhere in Walmart. You 396 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: wake up and you're having your French Crawler and you're 397 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: buying like ten dollars pajamas you didn't know you needed. Yes, French, 398 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: is that which one is? It's like the no, it's 399 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: like the fluffy like Duncan makes it now in only 400 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: parts of the country. I know way too much about 401 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: the French croller. Maybe there's a recipe when we can 402 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: make our own wit something. They're kind of like just 403 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: fluffy or yes, they're kind of they're round, but they're 404 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: a little twisty, like yeah, they're they have like like 405 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: lind ridges in them, but they're like lighter than a 406 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: regular donut. They just are different. I don't know, a croller, 407 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: a French croler. It's like see ru e ll e r. 408 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: I think we have a picture. But yeah, so like 409 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: there's just a there's like a free flow in my 410 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: life right now. Anything that I don't oh, okay, anything 411 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: that I don't have to put on a schedule, I 412 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: don't want to, Like if I can play things to 413 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: the last minute and I'm gonna drive here or just 414 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: let like I just live my life in a way 415 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: that agrees with me, and I just I just design 416 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: it as best as I can. And yeah, I mean, 417 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: I just I look at I look at some artists 418 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, on Instagram and whatever, and I think, oh 419 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: my god, Like I love Kylie Minogue and I think 420 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: she's like having the best career moment of her life. 421 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: And I also say, okay, the type a career woman 422 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: and me like wants to have that year. And then 423 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: I go that also suddenly looks exhausting to me. And 424 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: people think I'm working all the time, and they think, 425 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, You're on the road all the time 426 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: and coming up it gets a little more intense. It's 427 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: still not as intense as most. I just make it 428 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: so that it's so like I love to think every 429 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: time I go out, I'm elevating. I'm elevating and I'm 430 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: creating moments and I'm doing things very specifically, and so 431 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: it feels bigger, faster, better, But it's actually not. It's 432 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: actually like I'm conserving my energy and then I'm like 433 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: high output. But it's in a very intentional way, and 434 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: it's it. 435 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. 436 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm kind of just more peaceful and more comfortable in 437 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: my skin and happier with my art and all of 438 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: it than I've ever been. It's all very connected. 439 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: When you were young, was it just like you just 440 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: want My stomach is going not saying oh yeah, I 441 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: know that's okay. It wants a croller right there you go, yes, 442 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: but I kind of want it savory, like can they 443 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: make that and drizzle like savory over it? 444 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: I have to shift like the sweet and savory this. 445 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: Take your boots off, get cozy, we're keeping all. I 446 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: have a heated weight at blanket. Would you like one? Okay? Good? 447 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: I want to get up. 448 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: I do. 449 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: I totally forgot I have the tension span of a gnat, Like, uh. 450 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't know, it's really good. 451 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: We don't fall off to bed. 452 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: His moment, I was. 453 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: Saying, when you were younger, Oh yeah, yeah. 454 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, was it like was it crazy? Was it? 455 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: Is it just like go o go and in your 456 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: mind at the time, where you like, I have to 457 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: keep going because. 458 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: Yes, everything's momentum based, and I'm sure it was for you. 459 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: Right, Look in the video you look very tall, and 460 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: I look like this little person here very. 461 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: It's very Alice in Wonderland. So yeah, I mean I 462 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: think about like the tour bus days when I was younger, 463 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't take anything in. It was just the 464 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: country was going by outside the window, and I didn't. 465 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I was so fixated on being perfect on stage and 466 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the schedule, and I was anxious all the time. And 467 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: I'm still a little anxious, but like some an adrenaline girl. 468 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I just didn't. I didn't realize all 469 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: the things that life had to offer, you know, and now. 470 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: Could you You were young, you were going going going like. 471 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: And it's kind of like a practice too, like like 472 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: I do meet in greets, right, and I'll meet one 473 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: hundred people before my show or after my show. It 474 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: before and it's weirdly more energy. Yet it's more energy 475 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: than the sh I swear it is because every my 476 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: mom used to do this unbelievable impersonation of me at 477 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: meet and greets. And you've done a million autograph signings 478 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and things where you know, you reset for every person. 479 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: You're like hi, and you and You're aware, I'm aware 480 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: this is this person's minute, you know, And I want 481 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm like so engaged and so present. 482 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: I want to I want because they want to meet me, 483 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: but they want me to meet them. They want to 484 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: know Share said it like she said, they want they 485 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: want to know I met that. They want this is 486 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: somebody's moment to tell me their story and I want 487 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: to hear it, and so like, it's that that requires 488 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: like I don't know how teachers do what they do 489 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: because I like taught summer camps and programs and things. 490 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: It's like but it's that level of engagement. But it's 491 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: like you as a mom, right, I'm. 492 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: Not that engaged anymore. Wait, I feel like I gave 493 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: my best spears since oh my. 494 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: God, But you know that present, like you're so in 495 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: it you don't even know how tired you are till 496 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: you're done. You're tired. I mean, so where's the show. 497 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm a little more in control of that output, and 498 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: it's just different, you know. 499 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, meeting your fans. It's people can't quite 500 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: understand it because I know, like i'd been doing conventions now, 501 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: which I hadn't done a lot in the last few years. 502 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: We've been doing them, and they'll always be like, your 503 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: people are waiting too long. You got to go faster, 504 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can't. I can't go faster. 505 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: Because they tried to curfews at venues in a I know, 506 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: I want them. 507 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: Each to have that time. How can you say no, 508 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: like you know, you signed something and. 509 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: Go I know, and for you, like you think about 510 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: people were in You were in people's living rooms in 511 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: their most formative years, and I mean, it's so special 512 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: that they get to meet you. 513 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm the though I still don't see it, like how 514 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: you know, influential we were as a TV show on 515 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: people's childhoods and lives and yeah, I can't see it either, 516 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Like I understand it, right, but like you're talking about 517 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: it I'm like, well, yeah, like I can see like 518 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: for you as an outsider, I'm like, yes, it's huge 519 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: for people, but it's so hard to see it when 520 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: it's yourself, right right, It's just well, i'm here to 521 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: tell you, and I'm here to tell you made a. 522 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Huge impact on people, and you were yeah, I mean 523 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: that show is just that show is really special. 524 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: Same sister, same. But see, what's great is a musician 525 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: you can keep going as an artist like. 526 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: And yes, it's a real like you know, people use 527 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: the word reinvent. I don't know if it's reinvent, but 528 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: it is, like you listen, it's again it's hard. I'm 529 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's like my manager and I always 530 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: are like kind of. 531 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: Like are we there yet? 532 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: Just when I think like, oh, maybe I'll get a 533 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: little easier, like we'll go to that next echelon. And 534 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: then by the way, I said the what I said 535 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: earlier about big machines, but when you establish the thing 536 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: the way you want to, like, I did an album 537 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: called The Body Remembers, and I did a couple of 538 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: tours and now I'd want to partner. It's kind of 539 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: like being a romantic, right when you know who you are. 540 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: You're like, well, now I'd welcome the right partner because 541 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: we've already created the thing with the way we want 542 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: and you can't mess with that. But but if someone's 543 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: going to come along understand my creative vision and help 544 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: elevate it, I'm ready for that, you know, right, But like, yeah, no, 545 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: it's hard, and we're doing it the hard way. It's 546 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: like every venue and every like I have a small 547 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: team and everyone's doing like customer service all the time, 548 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: like with the venues and the fans and that, like 549 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: we just really it's it's really personal. You get what 550 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: you want, but it really is satisfying yourself and you do. 551 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: Like I heard Taylor. 552 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Swift talking about this recently too, It's like it's the 553 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the stuff people don't see you 554 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: do that allows for that five percent magical time I 555 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: get to spend on stage, which is like the big 556 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: payoff for me. But the ninety five percent of like 557 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: the fourteen business hats you're wearing is the tiring part. 558 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: That's the hard part. And then you're and then I'm 559 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, shoot, I haven't worked on my 560 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: voice or the actual songs I'm doing the show are 561 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: because I'm busy putting it all, putting it all together. 562 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: So I'd like that to get a little easier. It's 563 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: a boy to be honest. But we're still making it 564 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: work and bringing a lot of joy to people. And 565 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm rebuilding my touring career because I went into I 566 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: did a lot of theater, I did a lot of Broadway, 567 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: and so to come back and go, oh right, this 568 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: is really you know, this is what I started off doing, 569 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: and it's a rebuild, and there's people who are stuck 570 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: with me for many, many years. People were circling back 571 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: after three decades of losing track of me, and it's 572 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: really fun, it's really meaningful. It's really been a blast. 573 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Did you ever get nervous performing? 574 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, Like I said, I'm like, I'm an anxious person. 575 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: Like the most nerve wracking thing I'm about to do 576 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: as this acoustic tour because when I do, I'm an 577 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: adrenaline girl. And so usually i'd come out and I 578 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: do three big energy you know, high energy numbers. I'm 579 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: dancing whatever, and then I ease my way into the ballads. 580 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: This is me coming out a piano I might bring 581 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: one musician with me. I haven't decided, but it's like 582 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: it's on me, and it's I have to be grounded 583 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: and in this certain place. I've done things like this before, 584 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: but not in a long time, so I know I'm 585 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: going to be like I have to figure out the 586 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: new way of preparing for this particular show to kind 587 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: of be set in a in a kind of zending 588 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: place before I go out. So yeah, that's I do 589 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: I get as a kid where you like, like, what 590 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: was your first big performance? 591 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: Like how many? Like massive? 592 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was kind of a build 593 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: because I would perform in clubs for you know, two 594 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: hundred people at a time or whatever, two hundred of 595 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: drunken people at a time trying to pick someone up, 596 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: going like who's this little white chick trying to sing 597 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: some song about dream shot? And uh, I just always 598 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: just had that like ambition. I just always wanted to 599 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: get like shut up and listen to the music people 600 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: and uh. But the biggest I mean I just remember 601 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: some of like the radio shows I started performing at, 602 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: like I remember was so random. I remember doing one 603 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: in Tampa at the Zoo with the Monkeys. It was 604 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: like one of those big crowds as far as the 605 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: I can see. But it kind of built to where 606 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: I was doing like clubs and then colleges and then 607 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: like you know the tour where I did Radio City 608 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: and I did the Greek and then it went into 609 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: the arenas and it was like relatively fast. But also 610 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: it was so I did clubs for like nine months. 611 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: I did like three shows a night, four nights a week, 612 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: and so nine months into my career, I was like 613 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: exhausted and people were just hearing about me, right, So 614 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: it's interesting because things were a little different from my perspective. 615 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, but then I did like the Rock and 616 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: Rio festival, you know, like seventy five thousand people and 617 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people. But it's weird. The bigger, the 618 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: bigger the crowd, the easier it was, really, yeah, because 619 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: it's just built on many people. 620 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: What do you see, Like, what is it from your perspective? 621 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just kind of this wall of energy 622 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: and adrenaline excitement, So like that makes it, in my opinion, 623 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: makes it makes it easier. Again, it's when you have 624 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: to me, when you have to hold a smaller, more 625 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: discerning room That's why doing Broadway like doing a miz 626 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, you get out there to sing on my own, 627 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: pretending he's this side. You know, the pie notes coming. 628 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Everyone's seated, they're in toxes, They've paid a lot of money, 629 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: they know what they're like, They're expecting something specific, and 630 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: like that's where nerve. I mean, I was always nervous 631 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: before Broadway performances, and I had a very regimented life 632 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: and routine. And you know if people say, like, are 633 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: you coming back to Broadway, and I'm like, again, like 634 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: the things you have to sacrifice to do eight shows 635 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: a week, it's kind of sing like you live like 636 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: a monk, Like you can't. It's your living for that, 637 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, that pristine kind of thing that both like, 638 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's intense, and I did a lot 639 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: of it. 640 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: So I'm again anxiety. 641 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: You talk about it, Yeah, Wow, it's like doing the anthem. 642 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: I did the anthem at the World Series when Kirk 643 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Gibson hit the winning run eighty eight I think it 644 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: was eighty eight. It was the most petrifying minute and 645 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty seconds of my entire life, and uh yeah, and 646 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: usually what would happen with me is I'd get myself 647 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: to the place to do the thing, and then afterwards 648 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: I'd fall apart. Really oh yeah, I'd be like come 649 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: out of here, geme me out here. I need a 650 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: brown paper breathing in a brown paper bag, xanax all 651 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: of it. Because I was. I was really anxious all 652 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: the time, and I was fatigued. Yes, I do not often, 653 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: but when I. 654 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: Do, whoo And did they come on from? Like stress? Anxiety? 655 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: Like work thousand percent? Like stress? 656 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: I have that moment down You're just like. 657 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Yes and g I like if I'm not eating great 658 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: and I'm stressed and yeah, yeah, Like I went recently 659 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: went to see Neo's concert in at the Wind in Vegas. 660 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I had a migraine the next day. And I think 661 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: it's because I ate Asian food, which I don't usually eat. 662 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm in that recycled air and all the smoke and 663 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: the chemicals and you know, people are smoking pot everywhere 664 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: in rooms and like it's chemistry for me. That gets 665 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: me too. 666 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: I can't believe you were going to be fifty four. 667 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: I am. 668 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: She has like barely any makeup on her skin is perfect. 669 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: This is oh my god, No, I have line I 670 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: have lines. Listen. Last year I had a little disport, 671 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: and I'm always like I would say to my dancers 672 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: Buddy and Eddie, who are too, They're my choreographers, choreographers 673 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: and my besties. I'm always like I miss my old forehead. 674 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: But again, like me and chemistry, like weird things happen, 675 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: and so I'm like entertaining it again because when you're 676 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: touring and people are just pictures and videos and everything's 677 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: so close up, and I know I look at myself 678 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: and off. 679 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: But I'm here to say I'm sitting literally right in 680 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: front of her and she looks gay, thank you. But 681 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: I know that perfect forehead that when I watch TV 682 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: shows there's actresses our age and I'm like, wait, how 683 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: did they have the perfect forehead? Like what I know, 684 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: where did they go? What did they use? 685 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: And when they use too much and nothing moves, I'm 686 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: really not happy. You're just like I'm expressing internally, but 687 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: I might want a little light light something again, just 688 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: because I start looking like you can't see this is 689 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: not close up, but between like I do the nose 690 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: scrunch and then like I have the. 691 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: Call that the rabbit is it? The rabbit ears oh, I. 692 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: Don't know, and then I have deviated septums, so I 693 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: just start looking like a crazy person right here right there. 694 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, But I still look like me. And 695 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: that's why I like, I just want to always walk 696 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: that line, because I do think people want to see. 697 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah you people say I've had like gazillion plastic surgeries 698 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: face and I'm like, it's so weird to me because 699 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: I have and I've had my nose done and yeah, 700 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: I mean I've had but. 701 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: You had a time like when you're kicking right, I 702 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: was like to me, Yeah, it's totally crooked. 703 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm like scared to do it again because I'm like, 704 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: what if it doesn't look like me? 705 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: No, you look great? You look great? Do you have 706 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: hardly any makeup on today? Too? 707 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: And yoursense great. 708 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: I feel like this generation I say this like to 709 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: my audience all the time. I feel like we're like 710 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: just it's We're a super vital generation that does not 711 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: want to be put out to pasture. I'm just so 712 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: tired of like I remember growing up with the like 713 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: after forty you can't wear this, and you know, like right, 714 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: I might, you know, as a choice sometime wear Chanel 715 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: suit or something, but not likely, Like I'm usually not 716 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: happy in a blazer. I'm not happy in a I'm not. 717 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm just I have a youthful now. 718 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had for. 719 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: Rock and roll kind of and you should always keep that. 720 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because I'm not doing it for someone else. 721 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: I like how I look and I feel good. And 722 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: when I want to wear something different, I'll wear something different. 723 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna dress because I'm told i should 724 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 2: dress a certain way. 725 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely not. 726 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: And she looks so hot, you guys, like, thank you. 727 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: We were outside in front of my house and I 728 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: was sitting on the ground and you were squatting, literally squatting, 729 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: and she held that post while we talked for how long? 730 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was so jealous. 731 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 732 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: Ah, your body is insane. 733 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: Ah, thank you. I don't know, I just I've become 734 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: more relaxed about my body though, Like right now, I 735 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: have like I have like the fun I wear what 736 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, flatters it, but I have like the five 737 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: to seven whatever. But I'm like, you know what, I'm 738 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: enjoying eating bread and not caring and like there's just 739 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: a balance. I always say there's just a balance and 740 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: it's and it's decisions. It's like, you know what, I 741 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: might not be able to fit in that pair of 742 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: jeans right now, but I enjoy the freedom of eating 743 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: the way I want, you know, within whatever the parameters 744 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: I set for myself are and all the things. And 745 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: but that freedom shows up in your being, doesn't it? 746 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: Like it again, if your life is agreeing with you. 747 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. 748 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not like rigid. 749 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: Do you work out a lot? 750 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't, That's the thing. So I was the over 751 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: worker out were you like the tybo and the yoga 752 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: and the cardio on that because I used to do 753 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: all the like over like tibo. 754 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: I with all my friends and I was always the 755 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: first one to leave or go hide in the corner. 756 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: But you know when we used to do the like over, 757 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, join the Rebok Sports club and do the Yeah. 758 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: And what I learned about that was like my back 759 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: started going out because my adrenals were crashing, like you 760 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: can't when you end for women of a certain age, 761 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: if your cortisol is getting if you're like so, if 762 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: you're over working out, like I find, it's like so 763 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: much of it is eating for me to keep myself 764 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: looking how I want. But it's you know, I just 765 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: eat things in moderation, but also flowy things like I 766 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: do like a nice walk jog walk, jog on the beach, 767 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: you know. I jump on the peloton a little. I 768 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: dance in my I just try to stay in motion. 769 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: But when I get like on stage, I output to 770 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: the point where, like I mean, my lungs are like 771 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: are you freaking kidding me? But if I even with that, 772 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: I swear to you, a day or two later, I 773 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: look like I have more weight on me because the 774 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: cortisol levels are doing that, and so it's not about 775 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: intensely working out for me anymore. But I have like muscle, 776 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: like I have biceps from the twenty thirty years I 777 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: did biceps and now it's just muscle memory. 778 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: You have no skin under your arm too. 779 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: I have a little bit a little bit. Yeah. 780 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: My mom used to They would her and her friends 781 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: would joke when I was young, like oh the wave 782 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 2: goodbye on ye, Like Mom, that's so embarrassing. I don't 783 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: even know what she's saw. And I'm like, holy only. 784 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: That's that again. That's that margin where like for me, 785 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: I have to be underweight for that to go away. 786 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, but no, I'm not doing like 787 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: triceps these days and all that, but I and I 788 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: should do a little probably, But I'm telling you my 789 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: energy is always like I have an on season and 790 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: an off season, and my body doesn't want me to 791 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: work too hard physically in the off season. I have 792 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: to kind of save it up a little bit and 793 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: just do everything kind of light. 794 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: I love that you know yourself so well. 795 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: But that's the thing too, So you know what I 796 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: feel like everybody like that's the thing. Because I've had 797 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: friends go like, you need to drink lemon water. I'm like, no, 798 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: you need to drink lemon water, because what happens when 799 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: I drink it just goes right, Like my stomach acts 800 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: like I have an ulcer all the time, Like I 801 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: have to be at bland. And so there's no one 802 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: size fits all any thing. 803 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: True. 804 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: You have to know yourself, you know. 805 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but also just what you want in life. 806 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: One thousand percent one thousand percent. 807 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: Like I just turned fifty one and I'm still like, wait, 808 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 2: what is it I want in life? 809 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: Like and what is it you want next? Like do 810 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: you have a thing that and how old is your 811 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: youngest child, Devin, Wow, so you have a little while 812 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: do you have ten years? 813 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 814 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: Of yeah, super hands on. But see sixty one these 815 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: days is young, so you're gonna have this whole other chapter. 816 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: Tell me sixty one when you're sixty one, So you're 817 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: fifty one now, two years right when you're youngest to seventeen. 818 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: That's still like a whole fresh I look at my my, 819 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, pop singer peers like Belinda Carlisle, like she's like, 820 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: what sixty four sixty five, like these women who are 821 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: just rocking it in their shah yah. Right, So you're 822 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: gonna have this whole it's different now, yeah, but it 823 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: sounds like also you have right because your your single 824 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: now again. But yeah, what I don't know, Like for 825 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: me the r V, I didn't know I wanted that adventure, 826 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: but I started seeing them on the road and I 827 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: got this little thing in my head about it, and 828 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: then I just once I get the thing in my head, 829 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: I have to do it really yeah, but it ends 830 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: up happening. Do you have any of those types of Oh. 831 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean there's so much I want to do. 832 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's more like I'm very work driven so 833 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: it is hard for me to find that balance between 834 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: children and work and then finding a little bit of 835 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: myself somewhere there. And I think having gone through my 836 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 2: X and I sweating up and really doing that, I'm 837 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: able to see a little bit more of myself there 838 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: because I'm finally like, okay, I have to put myself 839 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 2: out free, you know, free, whoa I'm like just coming out. 840 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: That's okay, don't at it. 841 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I guess that's what my body wanted to say. 842 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, a thousand per se. But really I 843 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: would imagine like every partnership, like I wasn't a ten 844 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: year thing, and he and I are still friends, but yeah, 845 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: do you live your life differently? You know? And again 846 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: I speaking from somebody who's been solo for most of 847 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: my life really and especially the last five years. It's fun, 848 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: it's nice. And again, I know you have the kids 849 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: in their schedule and everything. 850 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: So it's the oldest one writing ten years. So let's 851 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 2: say he's seventeen. Let's say when he's eighteen, I'm sixty two. 852 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: I could then maybe meet somebody and have like a 853 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: whole life because the kids will be out there else, 854 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: they'll be on their own doing their own thing, although 855 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't really want them to leave. I don't want 856 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: to go really. 857 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 1: And in the meantime you can meet people now too, 858 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: but again you can also just do things for you. 859 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm not very good at being alone. 860 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: You think, just because you're used to it, or well, 861 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: I say. 862 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: That, but I don't really know. I've never been alone. 863 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: Maybe I would be great at. 864 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: It, And I'm like the weirdly the opposite. So I 865 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: keep saying, Oh, I think I really want a partner now, 866 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: and then when it's eight PM and I'm watching a 867 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: movie with my two dogs ands, I'm like, I'm so 868 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: glad nobody's here right now. Now. A lot of that, 869 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: weirdly is because I use my voice a lot for 870 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: singing and sometimes I don't want to talk. 871 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 2: I love that a lot. 872 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: Excessively, and so like the fantasy is that I have 873 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: this partner who totally understands that, like like I would 874 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: like I do want I do want to have someone 875 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: where I could just be like, be quiet, just be 876 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: in somebody's presence and be comfortable, relaxed, and that does 877 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: appeal to me. Now, Like I put that to the universe, 878 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: that i'd want that now. 879 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's not after eight pm, like they just 880 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 2: hang with you and then they leave it. 881 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: Eight the right, it's just quiet time. 882 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never quite in my house. Like you just 883 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: reference that like being in bed with your dogs and 884 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: it's eight o'clock and I'm like, oh. 885 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: I know, because I hear from my sisters with kids. 886 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I know. It's a very I live 887 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: a very different life, but I also sometimes have the 888 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 1: opposite feeling where I'm like, oh, it would be fun 889 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: to have a little crew around right now. It's built 890 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: in energy, right, and it's built in focus because sometimes 891 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm also so alone with my thoughts and my emotions. 892 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: It's like stupid because it's like nobody should be this, 893 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: it should have this much time alone with their Especially 894 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: in that RV. I'm always like it's just a recipe 895 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: for being in your feelings. It's like four walls twenty 896 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: five feet and you're just like there's nothing to do 897 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: but cry. Like that's what happens sometimes to me. 898 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you watch movies, Well, what do you mean you can? 899 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: I mean I do, but yeah, it is a lot 900 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: of like introspection to a degree, there's like probably a 901 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: balance between your scenario and my scenario. 902 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, imagine if we like trade it lives 903 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: for a week. 904 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm feeling it's another idea Hallmark movie. 905 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 2: We're trading one Hallmark. 906 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm way Tootflix. I know I've done some Hallmark 907 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, I think I'm on the edge for Hallmark 908 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: these days too, weirdly, like I'm not the edgiest person, 909 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 1: but for Hallmarks sometimes, yeah, I think maybe. But okay, 910 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: so we'll bring it to Netflix and trade lives. We're 911 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: switching lives. You're going on the road to Yeah, harvy girl. 912 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if I could tour. 913 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 1: I grew in your concert, and I would not send 914 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: your kids out to school looking like they're supposed to do, 915 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't dress a kid for school 916 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Oh my god, it's so bad. 917 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: I've gotten so lazy with my youngest one because there's 918 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: so many at night. I put him in his clothes 919 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: for the day next day and convinced. 920 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: It's cool to do that. My god, that is so funny. 921 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 2: Yes, dinner, he takes his back, oh my god. Sometimes, 922 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: and I'm just kidding. He always takes his bad it's hysterical. 923 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But then I'll be like he dude, 924 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: Like I rationalize with him, and he's good at that. 925 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, it'll save like an extra 926 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: five minutes if we get dressed now, and then you 927 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: sleep later and I can sleep later. Wink wink. And yeah, 928 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 2: he's so he sleeps in his clothes. That is really funny. 929 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 2: My bad, mom, No. 930 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 1: I think listen. I think if you're getting through it, 931 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: you're good every day school, very few days, so we'll 932 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: see how it goes. But so far, so good. Any 933 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: plans for your birthday? You know, I did this really 934 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: awesome friends dinner last year with like thirty people at 935 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: this great French restaurant Juliette, And then this year, I'm like, 936 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: I might be here. It might be Vegas. I might 937 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: be literally behind the wheel of my RV the day 938 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: of my birthday, which could be kind of weirdly fun. 939 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: Might be hold up with my dogs watching a movie. 940 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: Might be at dinner with some friends. Like I would 941 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: like whatever falls in my lap this year and feels convenient, 942 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: and like I'm just going to be totally in the 943 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: moment about it. I have no desire for planning in 944 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 1: advance at all this year. 945 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: Great. 946 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: No, my fiftieth was, by the way, My fiftieth was 947 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: during COVID and I had a Zoom party and do 948 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: you know Richard Whites, My friend Richard White, thank you 949 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: have w co chair of wm ME. I figure you 950 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: guys know each other. He hosted and was said, narrated. 951 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: My friend Matt Oss British popster, he played and sang 952 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, all my friends were on Zoom Entertainment tonight 953 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: sent me over a cake which my neighbor knocked on 954 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: the door and delivered it to me. And when the 955 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: party was done, I closed my laptop and I went 956 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: up to my room with my dogs, and I was like, 957 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: I am so happy I didn't have to think about 958 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: a big fiftieth bash, which inevitably someone would have got offended. 959 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: I would have forgotten my advisor. I wouldn't have wanted 960 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: to invite. 961 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 2: All the pressure, too much pressure, I loved. 962 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm kind of weirdly again, I'm like Hibernational and I 963 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: don't need big to dos all the time. And I'm 964 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: the same, so it depends Yet where I am like somebody, 965 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: somebody can take me to brunch if they want or whatever. 966 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. 967 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: Get her a French crouler from French. 968 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: For a French croller. That's it. That's it. Put a 969 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: candle in it. I'm good.