WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Trey Wingo 1-on-1 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:15.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.200 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:30.120 Star in Frisco, Sack by Scot Taytot. Hello, everybody, welcome 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.160 into a special edition of Talking Cowboys. Not your normal 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.159 four group Talking Cowboys podcast. We've got some connections to 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.040 talk to and today we are pleased to welcome in 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.040 ESPN host of Golicking Wingo. You've seen him all over 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.800 the NFL Draft NFL Live Sports Center in the past. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.080 Trey Wingo joins us here on Talking Cowboys and Trey, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.080 first off, thanks for joining us, and I kind of 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.040 want to get into this quickly because you're a busy man. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.120 But first off, I've heard a little bit of a 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.440 rumor that you grew up a Cowboys fan. Kind of 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.480 is that? Is this true? And kind of tell us 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.120 how that became to be after somebody who grew up 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.199 in Connecticut. Yeah, Well, long story short. My whole family 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.240 is originally from Texas. My mom's from Texarkana, my dad's 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.080 from San Antonio. I have relatives all over the Dallas 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.080 Fort Worth area. Cousins and aunts and uncle's, you name it. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.920 But we lived overseas for a while and we came 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:31.280 back to the States in the seventies and the first 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.920 football game I ever watched on television was a Cowboys 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.199 game on Monday Night football, and I liked the star 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.520 on the helmet and I I was a young kid, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.600 and my parents were like, yeah, we're from Texas, like okay, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.200 and that was a really good time to be a 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.760 Cowboys fan. So really that's how it got started. I mean, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.240 it's all sort of happenstance, but yeah, I was very 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.400 fortunate through the nineties. I took my dad to all 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.560 three Super Bowls that the Cowboys won, and that was 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.040 a lot of fun. And so yeah, that that's how 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.040 that all got started. It was it was just sort 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:04.880 of a weird connection, but it's been a lot of 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.160 fun sense. So it was the uniform and then just 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.560 geographical happenstance that kind of turned into you being that 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.520 Cowboys fan and kind of growing into that. But what 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.919 about your love for football, because it seems like you've 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.080 always kind of had your your your foot in the 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.200 door of pro professional football. Has it really kind of 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.720 been that way from the get go. Absolutely. When I 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.400 was a kid, I used to subscribe to this thing 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.960 called Dallas Cowboys Weekly, and it was like, you know, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:36.720 like a thirty page in house magazine that the team 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.040 would put out. But I, because I lived in Connecticut, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.960 I was getting a week late. So the game would 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.359 be played Sunday, and Monday or Tuesday it would arrive 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.400 in the mail from the previous games week and I would, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.760 you know, just pour over every page or that day. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.680 I used to collect, you know, football cards. I used 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.400 to try and draw plays as ASA did, like Okay, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.200 what if this would work? And how would that would work? 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.040 And it's like I've been a sports fan my entire life, 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.720 and I enjoyed playing sports. But there's no doubt that 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.480 football and specifically the NFL. And when I was a 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.160 really young kid to Dallas Colbert ball. It was always 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.320 my favorite sport, always my favorite team. And you know, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.240 I just I loved everything about I still did this day, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.360 love everything about it. I think it's the truest team 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.120 sport there is. You know, in any other sport, you 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.880 can have one or two guys. For example, let's say 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.520 in the NBA you have a couple of guys that 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.440 are a confessed of what they do, you're more than 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.000 likely he's gonna win. In soccer or hockey, you can 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.640 have a really good team, but if you have a 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.120 hot goalie, that changes everything. Baseball is really a one 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.280 on one confrontation between a pitcher and a batter, and 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.840 then everything else happens based on that. You don't have 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.120 eleven guys pulling on the same side of the ball 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.800 at the right time on the right play. You don't 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.960 have anything in football, and that's what I love about 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.400 it more than anything. And of course, being up in Connecticut, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:56.520 you're still nearby the NFC East Country, you were near 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.640 the Giants, you were near the Eagles, a little bit 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.600 up there in the northeast. But kind of explain what 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.760 it was like being a Cowboys fan in that region 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.960 of the country even as a youngster. Well, those teams sucked, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.440 so it was awesome. H No, But you're right, it's weird, 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.160 like a lot of people like, why are you a 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.680 Cowboys being in financy because I grew up in a 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.560 town called Greenwich, Connecticut, which is literally the first town 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.960 over the water from the university. It's like a bedroom 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.880 community for people that commute into New York City do 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.000 go to work. I mean there were many of us, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.920 but the Giants were terrible, so it didn't matter. But yeah, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.360 it was. It was weird, but I enjoyed it. I mean, look, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.479 it was a lot of fun. And you know back then, 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.839 you know you were born in what ninety six? Ye funk? 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.880 You know? We got we got two games on a 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.320 Sunday afternoon, and I would just live for the updates 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.280 to see what would happen, you know, on the Cowboys. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.039 And it was my favorite thing that they used to 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.680 do an old NFL film show called This Week in 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.200 the FFL that would airline on Friday night on local 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.080 stations about previous Sunday's games, and I would just I 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.560 would wait to see the highlights of you know, Billy Joe, Dupree, 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.960 Tony dors Said, Roger Starbuck, all those guys and the 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.600 things that they were doing. It was just a lot 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:13.120 of fun. Duke Piercing, Golden Richards, Robert Newhouse, Bob not 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.240 Bob Lowly at that time, but you know, Randy White, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.280 Harvey Martin, who Tall Joes, how I could do, Ralph Neely, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.839 John Didzgrell, the entire offensive line from the Dallas Cowboys 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.720 in earlier in the nineteen seventies. It was great. It 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.560 was a lot of fun. Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters. You 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.200 just loved being that antagonist even from an early age, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.040 just because of the success that the Cowboys were having. Overall, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.480 I love that. But you ultimately did end up coming 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.599 back to Texas. You graduated from Baylor in the middle 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.880 of the eighties. What brought you back to Baylor, by 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.880 the way, just being a couple hours down the road 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.320 from the Cowboys. Well, you know, everybody in my family 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.840 went to Baylor, my mom, my dad, not I mean 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:55.000 not everybody, but like almost everybody. Sister and I went 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.560 down there, and you know I wanted to do I 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.279 wanted to go someplace different for college, just to get away. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:06.120 And I applied to five school My first choice was 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.800 University of North Carolina. I did not get in, and 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.640 then I applied to Syracuse and University of Colorado and 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.840 University of Missouri, and eventually I just I decided to 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.719 out of those four, I wanted to go down and 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.599 go go go down to Baylor. I wanted to go 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.320 someplace warmer and have a good time and had a 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.600 blast and and be closer to some relatives in place 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.760 I needed to get away off campus. It was fun. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.560 I had a great time. To this day, I still 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:32.880 have a bunch of friends that I we w on 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.960 a golf trip every year that I want my buddies 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.760 in college and still get together once a year. We 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.120 had to cancel it this year for obvious reasons, but 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.279 we've been doing that for about ten or twelve years now, 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:43.600 so it was just it was a great experience. I 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.039 had a great time, and we went up to Dallas 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.040 all the time. We wore out I thirty five. Most 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.599 weekends we were either head north to Dallas or south 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.599 to Austin, and a few weekends we stayed in wake Tho. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.719 We managed to find ourselves a good time, but we 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.240 went We went north ninety minutes in south ninety minutes 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.000 on I thirty five quite a bit. As somebody who 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.159 grew up in Waco, I can attest that I thirty 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.240 five has had the burning rubber back and forth for 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.279 youngsters throughout the course of history, I guess since Baylor's 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.360 been there. But you then got your first job back 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.240 in broadcasting up in the northeast. You went back up 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.040 to New York and you were there kind of bouncing 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.200 around a couple of different spots. But what was it 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.920 like going from Connecticut to Baylor and then going to 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.640 the big city of New York City and then kind 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.440 of being around that area since then. Well, you know, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.960 my dad worked in the city for the community from 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.040 Greenwich for thirty plus years, so there was a lot 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:34.760 of like teacher and service days when I was in 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.840 school where I take the train and going to my 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.000 going to work with my dad. He was He was 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.440 a reporter of Your Chief for Life magazine in the 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.640 sixties and seventies, and then when Life Magazine folded, he 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.120 and two other guys created their magazine called People Man 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.480 ended up being the most successful magazine launch ever and 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:58.160 probably retired that title because nobody's launching a magazine. So 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.240 it was fun to go in and see him work 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.800 and do that kind of stuff, and it was a 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.840 lot of fun. So getting back into the city I 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.040 enjoyed very much. I was a page at NBC at 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.720 thirty Rock and like literally, if you've ever seen the 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.760 TV show thirty Rock, you know the guy in the 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.200 blue blazer, that's who we were. We gave guided tours 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.040 of the Building or Saturday Night Live and a bunch 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.280 of other shows that was fun. Then I made a 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.440 demo tape and sent it up to a bunch of 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.640 stations and got a job in Bingham to New York 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.640 and there for two years. And I got a job 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.760 in Allentown, Pennsylvania, where I got to do my first 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.480 play by play as well as some local TV broadcasting 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.600 for Lead High University football basketball. And I was there 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.000 nine months and got a job in Saint Louis ruin 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.680 Saint Louis for six years, and then moved back here 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.840 in nineteen ninety seven. Would have been here ever since. Now. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.320 You I believe you started your career with play by 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.079 play at least up on air and kind of getting 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.880 into that area, like you said, of Pennsylvania, and you 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:52.600 started doing some play by play, and then you kind 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.360 of peeked up into the ESPN realm of that what 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.800 kind of led to show hosting because since then it 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.200 seems like it's been less play by play more so 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.080 the show hosting side. So it was my first My 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.040 first few TV jobs were all were show hosting or poscaster. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.760 I just got a chance to do some uh, some 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.079 play by play during that job at Allentown, but I've 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.240 done you know, here at ESPN. I've done play by 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.439 play for uh the Arena League for a while when 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.960 we had that, But mostly my job is studio hosting. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:25.439 What do you like more? That's a great question. Um. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.520 For the longest time I really even think about it, it 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.280 it was like, Okay, what can I do? What do 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.080 I really look? For fifteen years I hosted NFL Live, 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.640 and hosting the Draft has been just so great, so 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.040 I really enjoyed it, Like, uh, you know, I've been 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:48.160 very fortunate at ESPN. I covered UH the PGA Championship. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.200 I've covered US Open and Golf and British Open and golf, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.520 a US Open and tennis Wimbledon, been to the Olympics, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.360 I was our correspondent for the two thousand two Winner 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.880 Games and saw Lake City. It's been unbelievable, but by 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.840 far doing NFL I've and doing the Draft it's just 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.640 been great. It's just been so much fun. And the 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.280 Draft is the ultimate reality television show, right, you know, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.200 you can't script for it. You have no idea what's 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.600 going to happen. And this year specifically it was nuts. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.000 But you just have sort of ride or TuS you 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.040 bucked you off. I guess these a rodeo parlance, and 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.800 it was fun. I mean, it's just you never know 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.720 what's going to happen, and that's the best part of 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.560 a plan. But as my friend Herm Edwards likes to say, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.600 any planned to camp be change is a bad plan. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.920 We've had to change plant a million different times during 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.840 the draft, so that's been fun. Now you mentioned the draft. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.640 You mentioned this year and all the challenges around COVID 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.240 nineteen and it being virtual. You were tabbed with the 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.079 task of being the sole host for ESPN and the 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.320 sole individual that had everything kind of ran through you. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.719 What was that challenge like and what were some of 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.560 the toughest parts of that job. So I have to 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.520 say I do appreciate what people say that, but to 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.199 think that it was just me is just you know, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.600 there are so many good people behind the scenes that 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.600 really had did the heavy lifting, especially this year. You know, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:15.600 our overall producer Step Marking, our producers Ramadanski and Brian Ryder, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.000 and all the tech people that put it together. Now, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.600 it was different. It was different, Don't get me wrong. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.439 It was weird and it was unusual. First of all, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.559 normally we're on location with them. You know, we had 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:30.440 last year in Nashville, close to seven hundred and fifty 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.439 thousand people downtown Nashville for the three days of the draft. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.200 It was nuts, unbelievable. We were expecting close to a 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.200 million people in Las Vegas this year and fifty three 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.640 days before the draft, we pulled the plug on that, 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.000 and somehow we were able to put together what was 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.800 an incredible virtual experience with so many people working together. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.280 So like for me, the preparation of the draft didn't 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.320 change at all. Like it didn't. It didn't change one iota. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.840 The only thing that changed for me was how we 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.400 were going to present the information that we had prepared for. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.680 And the people behind the scenes did an amazing job. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.920 Like I was the only one in the studio. We 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.120 had Hurt Warner and Michael Irvin and Daniel Jeremiah from 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.600 the NFL network along with our people Lewis Ready, quotram 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.719 acardem mel Kaper Jr. And they were all remote So 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.559 I was in the studio and there were literally two 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.040 other people with me in the studio and they were 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.760 all set up remotely, and we had Commission. Goodell wired 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.400 in obviously and had I think two hundred potential draftees 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.199 or one hundred potential draftees wired up with remote units, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.760 plus every general manager, every owner, and every coach. And 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.160 it went off without a hitch. And as we were 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.720 getting ready to do this, we had some glitches before 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.640 this began. The fact that we basically did that for 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:48.920 three days with really minimal interruption was unbeliefing believable, and 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.480 I was really proud of people that pulled that off 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.480 together and Dad it a lot easier. And I've said 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.880 it since we hosted our own virtual draft, everybody behind 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.120 the scenes needs a substantial race throughout the course of 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.960 this COVID nineteen pandemic because it makes those on air 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.240 look a lot better than they actually are. Just be 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.320 based off of the fact that the technical side has 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.600 taken care of even more. But now you're going up 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.280 a Cowboys fan. You have to stay neutral with your 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.719 national television audience. But do you keep an eye on 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.840 how the Cowboys did during the draft because there's a 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.880 lot of excitement around those picks. Yes, I mean they 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.920 kind of reverse engineered it on in my opinion, but 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.120 they got it. I mean like they weren't expecting the 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.400 CBO to be there, and if he was sixth on 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.000 their board, I think he was sixth on their pre 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.719 draft board. And you have him, what at seventeen, you 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.839 gotta take him. So you know, obviously a lot of 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.000 people thought that was a luxury item. But you now 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.480 have Michael Gallup, Mary Cooper and CD Lamb, which is 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.120 an unbelievable Creo wide receiver, and then to still have 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.680 Digs on the board when you go in the second 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:59.560 round get him was remarkable. Like in any scenario, would 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.360 you have said to a Cowboy team, they're gonna get 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.600 Gigs and you're gonna get CD Lamb in the first 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.960 ture ends they'd be like, oh yeah, all right, so 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.440 they get those two. And quite frankly, I like a 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.520 lot of the other picks as well, especially the kid 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.920 Neville Gallimore out of Oklahoma. I thought that was a 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.040 steel where they got him. I thought the Cowboys sort 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.240 of out of luck in happenstance. And also when the 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.000 players were there to take the right players, I thought 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.640 they hadn't that really did. Now with that kind of 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.800 paired with some of the other offseason moves, that they've 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.800 made Dontari Poe, Gerald McCoy haha, Clinton Dicks On the 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.800 defensive side of the football, What are you kind of 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.080 thinking going into twenty twenty and how is their season 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.960 going to look assuming that it is a full season. Well, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.200 we just did a list this week on Golik and 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.560 Wingo my top three ish teams that are super Bowl 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.120 or bust this year, and the Cowboys were number one 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.280 on my list. Because again, I want to be clear, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.280 it's not they're the number one team that I think 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.840 to win the super Bowl. It's who are the teams 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.280 that are all in on. If we don't get to 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.160 the super Bowl, it won't be a successful season because 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.880 I think they have everything that they need. Now. You 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.800 could question whether or not they're going to get something 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.640 out of Aldon Smith, who hasn't played since twenty twenty 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.760 fifteen to twenty sixteen, from the pass rush, Tim that's 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.480 gonna make up for the loss of Robert Quinn and others. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:20.000 But you know, they've sort of managed to make this work. Now, 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.400 I would have signed a quarterback first before I signed 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.280 everybody else. Jerry, I'm just saying, I mean, I like 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.560 Jalen Smith. I like Yale Collins, I like all those players, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.000 I like Zekiel Eliven. Normally you take care of the 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.040 durable quarterback first. Now they've got him, he's going to 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.480 be there this year. But the reason why this, I 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.960 think is so important is there's still a real divide 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.640 over years on what Dac and the Cowboys are willing 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.480 to agree to. They can't go into next year with 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.680 him on the franchise tack it over thirty seven million 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.200 dollars because at the best case scenario over the cap 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.600 is gonna stay flat going into twenty twenty one and 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.640 it might take a dick. You can't have a quarterback 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.680 taking a thirty seven one million dollars or in cap space, 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.200 especially if it's not going to go up into twenty 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.840 twenty one. It's a big year for them and they 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.800 need to make it work with all the pieces this year. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.560 So that's one of the reasons why I put them 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.680 as the top of the teams that are super Bowler bust. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.800 And you talk about super Bowler bust, and I'll get 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.320 your prediction or maybe not prediction, but your favorite. We'll 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.680 say favorite coming up here in just a little bit. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.240 But talking about Dak Prescott, and staying on the topic 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.720 of the what is the franchise quarterback right now? For 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.520 the Cowboys? You go and add Andy Dalton. You have 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.480 a little bit of an insurance policy with him backing 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.440 up Dak Prescott. But what is your opinion of Prescott 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.240 himself as a player, not necessarily the contract negotiation. I 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.560 think he's the most underappreciated quarterback in the NFL because 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.920 the first of all, look, I'm not a huge quarterback 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.280 wins guy. I'm sure you've seen the teams win games 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.640 quarterbacks helping them win games, and yes, they have maybe 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.920 more of an influence, but at the end of the day, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.080 if you don't have everything else you can have a 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.840 great quarterback doesn't matter. And we've certainly seen that throughout 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.320 the cases in the history. It's a little more skewed now, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.760 but I'm not a huge quarterback wins guy. But he 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:11.200 is a winning, durable quarterback in the NFL, and durability 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.320 it may be the most important ability in the NFL. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.320 He hasn't missed a game in four years because of injury. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.720 He's a big, strong kid who came within one yard 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.399 of Hie Tony Romo's franchise Rector for most passing yards 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.080 in a single season. He has all the weapons at 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.080 his disposal. You have a running game that I think 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.560 is going to be fine, or offensive line isn't what 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.560 it was when it was a rook year in twenty sixteen, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.040 but it's more than good enough. And you have a 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.840 defense that I think is going to be okay. I 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.760 don't understand the back, Kate, I don't understand me. Oh, 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.240 he's just an average. He's not like if you really 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.040 want to be honest about it and talk to people 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.560 who know what they're talking about in terms of people 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.160 who I mean, if you will put this way, if 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.240 you really want to find that out, let him be 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.120 a free agent. Watch what happened. Watch the twenty teams 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.160 that would run to sign Dak Prescott, because that's exactly 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.440 what would happen. So for all the people that consider 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.960 him an average to above out a quarterback, I suggest 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.240 you take up a hobby because football watching is not 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:17.680 your strength. Hey, I like it. You're antagonizing even now 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.760 talking about Dak Prescott and some of those that are 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.800 out there that I just don't get it. I just 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.920 don't get it. I mean, looks for example, I think 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.359 Carson Wentz is a great quarter front I really do. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.159 He's not durable. That's a that's a thing. Now we 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.040 can talk about maybe he's a better you know, you 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.400 like some of the skill things he does better than Dak, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.400 But when you put the the ability with durability, I mean, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.320 one guy's there all the time, and that's kind of 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.720 a big deal, you know, especially in this day and 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.359 age whenever you have to have quarterbacks that have to 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.800 do so many different things with the weapons that are 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.600 around them. And now Dak Prescott has those weapons, he 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.200 has the three receivers we mentioned earlier. He's got Ezekiel Elliott, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.280 Tony Pollard, Blake Jarr went on that offensive side. How 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.840 much pressure do all these weapons actually put on Kellen 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.880 Moore as the offensive coordinator to make sure that things 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.679 are taken care of or even Mike McCarthy an offensive guru, 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.440 taking care of the right way. Now, you know, Kellen 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.520 had a very interesting year as the first year offensive coordinator. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.399 Came out of the gate strong obviously those first three wins. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.640 But if you notice a pattern late in the season, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.000 and I'm sure you guys talked about this. Let's take 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:30.400 for example, a Thanksgiving Day game against the Bills. They 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.400 went right down the field on that first drive March 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.440 March March, Big doses Zeke Elliot in the running boom, 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.560 They score a touchdown, and then you look at Zeke 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.480 Elliot's carries per the rest of that game as opposed 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.679 to the opening drive. Then there was a Thursday night 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.840 game against the Bears in Chicago, right down the field, boom, boom, boom, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.359 great run past combination mix in there, they score a 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.480 touchdown and then what happened in the rest of that 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.040 game got away from the running game. Look, obviously, this 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.600