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Speaker 1: Second date, up date. Most of the time, whenever we

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Speaker 1: talk about forbidden love on the show, it's about Brooke

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Speaker 1: and her insatiable thirst for her cousin Ron stop it.

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Speaker 1: I do not like my cousin, not anymore.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But alas, we're not dealing with that type of forbidden

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Speaker 1: love at least good not today. One of our listeners,

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Speaker 1: Mark says he dipped a toe into the forbidden pool

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Speaker 1: of romance recently, and he's afraid the lifeguard won't let

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Speaker 1: Mark why, welcome to the show man, Hey, thank.

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Speaker 3: You, Oh man, I love a good, juicy story. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm dying to know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also your situation.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, so I have a best friend, Stuart goes

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Speaker 4: by Stu. We've been really good friends since college.

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Speaker 2: Oh, do you want to take it to the next level?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I thought would be forbidden your best friend.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm a straight fella, and you know you and

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Speaker 4: I have been really good buddies since college. You know,

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Speaker 4: I know his family go over his house all the time.

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Speaker 4: He loves my family.

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Speaker 1: That's the best. When you can just like walk in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're the second son. Sometimes you prefer

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Speaker 2: Do you ever take any family?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool. It's nice to have a close friend

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like a brother to me. And I'm just

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Speaker 3: You did you hook up with her already?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, something did happen, you know, But it's been one

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Speaker 4: of those things where I, you know, I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: Oh really, he wouldn't be. Well, there's two different types.

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Speaker 1: Like I have a friend who's literally always asked, like, bro,

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Speaker 3: I think it's really weird too, Like it's just like

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Speaker 1: Part may be weird.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how old is a little sister.

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Speaker 1: How much younger she was a few years younger.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nothing crazy, Okay, So what happened.

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Speaker 4: I was recently single and I was at a bar

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Speaker 4: I said, it's under different circumstances. You know, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: You just told her that that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to have been drunk when he said that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a little bit of that. What did

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Speaker 4: She was like, well, maybe you should do it anyway.

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Speaker 2: This is why I always wanted an older brother. I

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Speaker 1: Right up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, like friends with older brothers always had hot.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to salute around with everybody in your friends

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Speaker 2: Groo, thank you, Alexa, we got it.

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Speaker 1: So she wanted you to ask her out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I took that as a go ahead. So I

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Speaker 1: I like, actually, you guys do have a good bantern.

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Speaker 2: So was it fun?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, She's like, meet me outside in five. So we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it good? Because there's a whole build

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Speaker 4: It was great? And I mean we had I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well? I was like, we can't tell your brother about this,

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Speaker 1: That you guys are both adults.

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Speaker 3: I mean that makes it feel really immature by trying

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Speaker 4: Kind of changed my tune after that and I said,

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Speaker 2: Okay, what you say to that?

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Speaker 4: Well, we just kind of got into a disagreement and

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Speaker 2: So did she like immediately leave and texts her brother?

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Speaker 4: I don't know everything. He seems to be okay with two.

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Speaker 4: Everything except for the end was awesome, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: Okay, you would like to see your Let's take a

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Okay, one vote for yes, Brooke, I'm into it. The

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Speaker 2: The worst thing that can happen you lose your best friend.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, the romantic in me loves this because if you,

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Speaker 1: You already have a family's blessings. Alady, they kissed outside

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Speaker 2: Not jump the romantic in me.

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Speaker 1: Things will go very well. Okay, And so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote no. This is probably not a good idea,

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Speaker 2: That's only because you were rejected by a sister.

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Speaker 1: If I can't have my best friends friends you sister. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: and get you a second date update right after this,

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Speaker 1: all right, a thing? Hold on second date update. We're

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Speaker 1: You definitely don't think her brother knows about.

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Speaker 4: This, No way, he would have freaked out on me

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Speaker 4: by no, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when do you want to tell him? Like

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess it depends on what happens

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Speaker 3: But today we're calling the little sister, right, we're not

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Speaker 2: Talked to her?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I haven't reely talked to her since all this went

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I have no idea what we're going to

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Speaker 1: I'm going in with a positive attitude. Okay, Mark, you

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Speaker 1: always do, jeff someone has to. Let's do it. Calling

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Speaker 1: Lisa right now? Here we go, Hello, Hey, is this Lisa?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're a morning show called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 2: Are excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a very interesting conversation looming here.

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Speaker 5: I think I don't understand what's happening. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of explaining to do here.

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Speaker 2: We also do a podcast. Does that help?

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Speaker 5: Okay, but why are you calling me?

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Speaker 1: Second Date Update, and we're trying to ask you a

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Speaker 1: a guy named Mark. I'm saying to the family name Mark,

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Speaker 5: Okay, what did he tell you? Like, I what did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys met up randomly at a bar

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Speaker 5: You remember this right, Yeah, I very vividly remember this night.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you think? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Her throat, Yeah, I mean, can you start for the beginning,

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Speaker 3: like when Mark said I want to ask you about

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Speaker 3: on the date, Like, I mean, it's your brother's best friend.

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Speaker 2: What were you thinking?

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Speaker 5: So at first I actually was like into it, just

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Speaker 5: because I've always felt like Mark is kind of hot

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Speaker 5: don't know how much you know, but like Mark is

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well because of that though, after we kind of

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Speaker 5: Like that felt like a red flag.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he was like trying to kill

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Speaker 5: Everybody, I guess, but that's not attractive to me, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't tell anybody should have waited like five minutes

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Speaker 3: I mean, we told him that sounded pretty immature when

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Speaker 3: guys got into an argument about it, and it sounded

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it was a little too late because I decided

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Speaker 3: Oh what, so wait, when did you tell him that?

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Speaker 1: Night.

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Speaker 5: What was his response, Well, my brother was cool with it,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, that's not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Sure seriously, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Why was Mark so in his head about your brother

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, he was like for certain that his best friend.

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Speaker 5: The date my sister.

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Speaker 1: Yeah weird.

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Speaker 2: Well that's weird, that's strange. So your brother was actually fine.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, he said, Mark's the good guy. If you want

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Speaker 5: to hang out with him, that's cool with me. Isn't

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Speaker 5: that a good thing for someone? But the riskiness, the

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Speaker 5: dangerous part of it was gone, which like, okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 5: Not all my relationships need.

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Speaker 4: To be that.

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Speaker 5: But then it just started becoming weird for me, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be like making out with my brother's

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Speaker 5: best friend. This guy knows all my brother's deep secrets.

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Speaker 5: Like that's not something.

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Speaker 3: So it didn't freak your brother out, it freaked you

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Speaker 3: out when you started to think about it.

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Speaker 1: The risk and the danger was gone, and then so

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Speaker 1: that the romance left. But like, what if I told

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Speaker 1: you if you're into risk and danger, there's been somebody

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Speaker 1: secretly listening in on this conversation on the other line

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: I just don't really know what this is. What do

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Speaker 5: you mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean Mark has been quietly listening, wanting to jump in.

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Speaker 2: And you creepy.

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Speaker 1: It's dangerous. He's a dangerous ball, isn't that right?

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Speaker 4: Mark?

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Speaker 5: Mark? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah either bad boy?

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Speaker 5: Wait, so Mark heard everything I just said.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can ask him.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 4: You told your brother, like right off the bat, that's

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Speaker 4: what you did.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I'm able to make my own decisions, and

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Speaker 5: I decided to do that. Yes, that's the first thing

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Speaker 5: you have to say about.

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Speaker 3: All of this.

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Speaker 4: I just I mean, I don't know why you would

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: About it, but whatever, I mean, he was cool fit Mark.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean that's unexpected. And I was just trying

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Speaker 4: to be cautious about relationships.

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Speaker 1: See that's the problem right there. Mark, You're trying to

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Speaker 1: be cautious and she's into danger. Oh you got to

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Speaker 1: be dangerous if you want to win.

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Speaker 4: I'm still plenty dangerous. Really, Yeah, your your your family

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Speaker 4: would hate it if we hooked up. I don't think, like,

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Speaker 4: have you told your mom about it?

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Speaker 5: No, believe it or not. I didn't call my mom.

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Speaker 4: You're you're lucky you didn't tell your mom. She would

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Speaker 4: have been super angry and.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous. Don't tell the dog either.

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Speaker 2: Going to be the gauge on this family.

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Speaker 4: So wrong.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he's trying to make it sound dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Do you think your parents would be up that.

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Speaker 5: No, I think they'd be fine with it too, which

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Speaker 5: makes it feel continuously more lame.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mark, I think, not of a healthy relationship.

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Speaker 3: I think we need to play up Mark's good parts. Right,

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Speaker 3: Everyone says he's a great guy in your family.

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Speaker 2: He obviously likes.

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Speaker 3: You, and you guys know each other really well, Like

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Speaker 3: that can be a real foundation for something.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying. I feel like with Mark specifically, I'd

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Speaker 5: want it to feel more dangerous and it doesn't. And

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Speaker 5: so that's just kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So maybe that was I do.

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Speaker 4: Other dangerous things, you know, I gamble until I have

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Speaker 4: no money.

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Speaker 1: Should not do that? Mark give him a number?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So that's just irresponsible, That's not dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It's like also have horrible credit.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what we would like to do, Lisa, is

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Speaker 1: would pay for it. See that. Look at that a

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Speaker 1: man who won't even pay for his own dates because.

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Speaker 5: He ran out of money gambling.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that naughty?

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Lisa, Well, I hear that you

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Speaker 5: want to do that, and Mark probably wants to do that,

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Speaker 5: But I do not want to.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. We finally found someone that doesn't approve

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Speaker 1: of the relationship. Dating him would go against your own wishes.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get any more naughty and risky than that,

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Speaker 1: I think, Jeffrey, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: But listen, I do want to say I'm okay with

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Speaker 5: us still being friends, but like, all of this is

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Speaker 5: really awkward. So I think maybe let's just have some

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Speaker 5: distance for a bit and I'll see you when I

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Speaker 5: see you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, you are Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: I definitely shouldn't have kissed you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, maybe we can know.

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Speaker 2: I'll laugh about this in the future.

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving broken, Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: You guys, ever heard the phrase trying to catch a

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Speaker 1: falling knife.

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Speaker 2: It's a good phrase. I already know what it means.

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Speaker 1: It's where things are spirally out of control and you're

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Speaker 1: in a desperate panic to just stop the damage continuing

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Speaker 1: That's what we just witnessed with Mark, because he immediately

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Speaker 1: came on and thought, you know what, I'm being too

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Speaker 1: safe for her. I need to come across as dangerous.

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Speaker 1: And it just got worse and worse and worse till

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Speaker 1: we found out he's a degenerate gambler with horrible credit.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 1: It broke all the time.

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Speaker 2: I feel like his buddy's gonna lose respect for him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gave you the green light to date my sister

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Speaker 1: and then she.

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Speaker 2: Reject What a loser.

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Speaker 1: That Okay, that's the scol You know what, I think

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Speaker 1: Mark's a good guy. I'm changing my opinion.

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Speaker 2: We need to make a phone call for you know,

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Speaker 2: he already got rejected.

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Speaker 1: We're done. If you ever need a second date update,

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Speaker 1: we won't judge you. You can email the show. We'll

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Speaker 1: call the person who wasn't calling you back.

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Speaker 2: Broke and Jeffrey in the morning