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Speaker 1: The Favorites. The podcast presented by BET three sixty five.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. Live from

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Speaker 1: our Tommy John Home studios. I am Chad Milman. We

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Speaker 1: are sweating the end of this Bears game live along

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Speaker 1: with you. The Bears on the one yard line, down

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Speaker 1: by five. We got this game. It's one of our

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Speaker 1: five picks. This is our Sunday Night episode. We're reviewing

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Speaker 1: the fhaves, five picks we put into the contest. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna dissect why we left some games out. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for week nine.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my cost my companion Mike

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Speaker 1: and Padre might be ff professional better Simon hun there.

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Speaker 2: Hello, so I'm in. Hello Chad. What a good day, bro, They.

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Speaker 1: Dude, It's been a great day. It'll be even better

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Speaker 1: as soon as the Bears score as long as they

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Speaker 1: touch that. The fact they did not give the ball

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Speaker 1: to an off lineman backfield for the first time all

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Speaker 1: season makes me feel like they did that on purpose,

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Speaker 1: just so they can have so little time left on

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Speaker 1: the clock. The Bears take a one point lead, pending

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Speaker 1: what I match? What's that?

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Speaker 2: The damn we needed that.

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Speaker 1: We needed that, we needed that. It's not over yet, obviously. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's still time left on the clock. But boy, but

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Speaker 1: bears like, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to it. This has been a sweat of a game.

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Speaker 1: And I freaking love this team. I love this team

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Speaker 1: so much. I love their moxie on defense. They never

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Speaker 1: ever quit. They're going for the two point conversion right now,

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Speaker 1: there are twenty three seconds left in the game. Oh,

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Speaker 1: nice shovel pass for the two point conversion. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: Oh my freaking goodness, Simon, I'm not gonna lie. This

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Speaker 1: has been a glorious day. We're four and oh on

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Speaker 1: the day we got the Cowboys left tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, five and a half. Chad, Jesus Christ, Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you just did that.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe I just did that.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I will say, before we came on, you

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Speaker 2: were dead inside for a second there. That offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: killed Chad. People don't realize before we come on, we're

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Speaker 2: on here for fifteen minutes. Chad almost curled up into

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Speaker 2: a little ball in the corner there.

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Speaker 1: Why not, I did I actually had to put all

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Speaker 1: of you guys on mute because normally we're watching than

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Speaker 1: sweating the end of these games, and like someone is

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Speaker 1: always ahead and someone is always behind, and someone was talking,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I cannot listen to any of this

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Speaker 1: fucking drivel. Right now, I'm putting everybody on mute. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to know what's happening. It was excruciating when

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Speaker 1: that guy fumbled that ball. We're gonna get in it.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this. There were multiple times today

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Speaker 1: when I was watching the Jacksonville Jaguars where I was

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Speaker 1: feeling disrespected, ignored, as the kids like to say, as

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Speaker 1: though you were not hearing me. Today. Specifically, I felt

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Speaker 1: like that at halftime of the Jags game. I felt

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Speaker 1: like that at around four PM of the Jags game,

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Speaker 1: I felt that way againnered out of about four h

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Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern. I will explain what I mean in

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Speaker 1: Whatever the moment. It's never ordinary. At bet three six five,

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Speaker 1: We are still sweating this game. We got eighteen seconds

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Speaker 1: the final picks today. We originally made our picks on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We had the Bears minus two and a half. By

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Speaker 1: On Sunday morning, the Lions line was twelve and a half.

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Speaker 1: We had to decide were we going to resubmit for

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Speaker 1: the contest when we had to accept all new lines.

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Speaker 1: So if we want to get the Bears plus a half,

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Speaker 1: I hated the Jags all week. Of all the dogs

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Speaker 1: most often. It is the coaching mismatch, the QB mismatch,

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about it all week. But you loved it.

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Speaker 1: what I said. Hold on last play of the game,

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Speaker 2: It comes down to one last play.

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Speaker 1: Just throw it already, he's throwing it up.

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Speaker 2: Here comes the hail Mary, with the game on the line.

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Speaker 1: Does someone catch it? Oh my god, he made it?

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Speaker 3: You're a mush uh poor Chad, uh uh this I.

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Speaker 1: How is this possible?

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Speaker 2: Are they saying it's good? It's a catch?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? How the fuck did this just happen?

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Speaker 2: You know why it happened. You've gambled long enough, you counted,

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Speaker 1: You just slipped out. It just slipped out.

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Speaker 1: We're now three and one. You laughed at me when

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Speaker 1: How how did this happen? Well, they couldn't knock it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I was just say. It's the classic

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Speaker 2: for me. But this week, trust the number on this game,

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Speaker 2: trust the number on the Raiders game they come through.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and we both agree. We both liked it.

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Speaker 2: But you know, once we got all those crazy stats

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Speaker 2: I felt what you felt. But the other way, like

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Speaker 2: life betting bad teams. The Jaguars made me pull my

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Speaker 2: hair out like five times in that game. They're just brutal.

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Speaker 2: Between the penalties and the dumb plays by Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: all of it. But they find their way to these numbers.

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Speaker 2: That's why we always talk about all these key numbers.

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Speaker 2: It landed right on three. We got the number three

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Speaker 2: and a half. It was It was a fun bet

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Speaker 2: when you bet those type of games that lands right

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Speaker 1: The public did finally come back down to earth a

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Speaker 1: little bit today. Yeah, the Jacks covered against the public favorite,

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Speaker 1: The Colts covered against a public favorite, the Cards one

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Speaker 1: outright against very big public favorites. Feels like until Jaden

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Speaker 1: Daniels just hit that miracle pass, all was right with

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Speaker 1: the world again. The Jags are just a bad team,

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Speaker 1: they really are. And Trevor Lawrence he's just not a

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Speaker 1: Was a play third and eight early in the game.

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Speaker 1: His guy is supposed to run an out. He throws

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Speaker 1: the way, this is this is the idea. This is

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Speaker 2: But that's that you could say that for every game.

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Speaker 1: Right, they played a near perfect first half. They were

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Speaker 1: The Colts had one hundred and sixty five yards rushing.

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Speaker 2: It's just you play the numbers. Brother, and you not

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Speaker 2: You're in your own head. You're just some of your

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Speaker 2: What I really expect Browns.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect the Browns to win. I expected him

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Speaker 2: As good as the Browns defense was, they didn't win

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Speaker 2: one to do it. But my view of this game

431
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: was we knew, or I should say I knew this

432
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: was gonna be a low spring game. I knew it

433
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: was me tight. But I did think the Bears had

434
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: a big advantage offensively compare to this Washington defense. And

435
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: I didn't give enough credit to Washington defense. They're not

436
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: I keep thinking they're much worse than they really are.

437
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: They're not that bad, right, They're a well coached team.

438
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: They really knew how to attack Caleb Williams early on

439
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: in that game. And you know, we talked of the

440
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: time about these offenses being in a rhythm. The Bears

441
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: look like a team that of bye week and just

442
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: could not get their rhythm. It took them what three quarters.

443
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: Also, they were playing like their left tackle went out

444
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: and as soon as he went out, Yeah, Kavid Williams

445
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: was basically running for his life the entire game.

446
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: He was, but he literally had thirty yards passing midway

447
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: through the third quarter. So It's like I do want

448
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: to give him excuse for the same time, he also

449
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: played bad, and we kept saying that we were in

450
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: it because of what I thought, which was a ton

451
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: of regression was coming for that Washington offense. We knew

452
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: the Bears defense was by the best defense they played

453
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: all season, And you know, did I think it was

454
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna be in the form of them kicking whatever that

455
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: was four field goals? No, but I knew that there

456
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: was gonna be a lot of regression just offensively. That

457
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: should Jayden Daniels playing, he did play, we could have

458
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: take We could have taken them out when we knew

459
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 2: he was going to play, and I didn't want to

460
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: do it because it was just like, I still think

461
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: this is a good spot for this Bears team. It

462
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: was a good read and what are you gonna do

463
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: a Hello, Mary pass. I've won a bunch of bets

464
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: off them, I've lost bets off him. That's just part

465
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: of the game for you. It's the double kick in

466
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: the gut because it's your favorite team, and that's uh,

467
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: you know it is. Chad knows if he doesn't make

468
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: the playoffs by one game, there's no other game. Now

469
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. You circle this is the game.

470
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what happens in any of these other games.

471
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: It's like everyone was in front of the ball, they

472
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: batted it up in the air, and it bounced to

473
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: the guy in the back of the end zone for

474
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: a touchdown at the end of the game. And it's

475
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: a brutal loalsk, you just said the Bears defense played great.

476
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: They played great. They didn't give up a single touchdown

477
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: until there was zeros on the clock. Like that's just

478
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: a brutal way to lose a game that you dominated

479
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: the entire game. But it's the game that it hurts.

480
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: We lost money on it, but I'm not going to

481
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: react to it. I still keep the same grade I

482
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: have on the Bears, which is a higher grade than

483
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: this Washington team. And this Washington team is like in

484
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: the prime position now that even if they don't win

485
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: this division, feels like they're gonna be a wildcard team.

486
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: Like they're just really fun, exciting team. And even when

487
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: Daniels is banged up, he still was making big play,

488
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: especially running the ball. He's like he's just a fearless

489
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: kid right now. So yeah, both sides, the Bears I'm

490
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: not concerned, and I'll Washington not concerned. And the Bears,

491
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: this is a turning point for them. Their season from

492
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: this point forward just gets insanely tough. So we'll see

493
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: what kind of you know, leadership Kayleb william has and

494
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: the rest of the team does if this could tank

495
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: their season or they can just move on and be

496
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: a veteran team and get past this. But this is

497
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: a loss that the wrong team, This could haunt you

498
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season.

499
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: It was so terrible. I don't think we've ever had

500
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: the experience where we're watching one of our favorite teams

501
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: in real time while also seeing them lose on a

502
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: last second play, while also having them in the contest.

503
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: No, definitely not that combination. No, it's the worst one ever,

504
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 2: I would say. And like again, I've lost, you know,

505
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: six figures and had to come on this fucking show

506
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: and talk nonsense. I feel like you're feeling what I

507
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: feel when I have to do that, where it's just

508
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: you're not gonna remember anything on their show, what we

509
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: talked about or anything. This is just just throw this

510
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: whole night away.

511
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as you can tell, I'm hacking up along

512
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: and have been getting worse as the day has gone on.

513
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: But this two shell pass, we're going to rally. By Tuesday,

514
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back. We're gonna go over all of

515
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: our games. We're gonna end this week with a winning

516
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: week no matter what happens, because we're now three and

517
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: one on the day, we still have Dallas plus five

518
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: and a half. We left Detroit on the table. We

519
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: never got to Arizona. I feel like we let ourselves

520
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: get bullied into not taking people good because everyone loved Miami.

521
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad to take Miami though. Thank god, I just

522
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: held my position because, like you said, I already bet Arizona.

523
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: It was just like, all right, I just won't bet

524
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: this anymore. It's if everyone loves Miami here and they're

525
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: looking smart, that's another game. People are looking pretty damn

526
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: smart for three quarters, yep. But we just keep seeing

527
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: there's some of these teams just can't play four quarters.

528
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: And that's that's Miami this year, right. You said it before.

529
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: They didn't deserve that respect. They were getting way too

530
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: much respect. So you nailed that one. It's just a

531
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: Miami team that's not last year's Miami team. Where if

532
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: they were at home, they would have rolled that Arizona team.

533
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: They would have put up thirty five forty points on

534
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: that Arizona team. And today we saw the difference. They're

535
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: just inconsistent offensively and defensively. They have no personality.

536
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's start looking at the week nine. Lines

537
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: two or three stood out to me immediately.

538
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: One of them, number one should be the easiest one

539
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: for you. Thursday night. Did you see Thursday Night's line? No,

540
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: hold on, take a gander Thursday night. Some of the

541
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: fishiest lines I've ever seen. I'm gonna walk into it.

542
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Texans Jets, Yeah, I can barely see. I feel like

543
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: I've just.

544
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Houston's minus one right now against the Jets on the

545
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: road in New York. So Vegas is saying that Houston

546
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: they're not home or on the road. Houston's on the

547
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: road at New York.

548
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: You know what they're saying is Houston at home would

549
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: basically be like almost a touchdown favorite.

550
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: I can't believe this line though, Like this is old.

551
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: Simon would have just hot right on this Jets team.

552
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: Trust the books here, but I'll take the chalk earlier

553
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: on Houston. I mean that Jets teams in total disarray.

554
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: They're terrible.

555
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are they to be under three points to

556
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: a playoff contending team in Houston. I don't care if

557
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: it's a short week and they just had a tough

558
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 2: divisional game. This is this is a bizarre number by

559
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: the sports books to hang and like their early money

560
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: is coming in on the Jets, like the professionals are

561
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: coming on the Jets. I don't get it. So I'll

562
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: take Houston minus one off.

563
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: The bat, all right, the game I was looking at, Yes, sir,

564
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: we just talked about Miami. We talked about Buffalo. Buffalo

565
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: is less than a touchdown favorite at home against Miami,

566
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: grab it, yeah, ta on the road against the good team.

567
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: We just saw he could barely finish the game, like

568
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: not health wise, but they could not close out the

569
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals at home. To on the road

570
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: against good teams in this spot, that's a smash spot

571
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: for the Bills.

572
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: And we broke down the Bills perfectly. We said this

573
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: game would pretty much tell us exactly what the Bills

574
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: are and what the Seahawks are. The Bills only beat

575
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: up on bad teams this year. Guess who was a

576
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: bad team? The Seahawks. Guess who's also a bad team

577
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: in Miami. So the Bills are a really good team

578
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: right now. They're that second tier in the AFC of

579
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: like a team that could they go on a Super

580
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Bowl run if things break their way. Yeah, they have

581
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: arguably one of the best players in all football now

582
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen, like, they have the team there where

583
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: it's it's all there. But at the same time, we

584
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: know their weaknesses, right They're just they don't have a

585
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: guy like offensively it is all on Josh Allen, so

586
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: that makes me nervous about them on third downs and

587
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: defensively there are ways to attack this team. So right now,

588
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: this Bills team, I think we kind of got doubted

589
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: where It's like, if they're playing a bad team like

590
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: this and we're getting under a touchdown, why not take

591
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: this number. It's only going to go up, right, I

592
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: just can't see the professionals coming out of Miami here.

593
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: It's going to go up. Raiders Bengals. Bengals were a

594
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: touchdown and a half favorite, which felt odd to me. Again,

595
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: apologize that felt very strange to me. The Bengal now

596
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: having been blown out at home, the Raiders are scrappy,

597
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: they keep covering. I know it's a game we don't

598
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: like to bet, it's a team you don't like to bet.

599
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: The Bengals just aren't very good right now, and the

600
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Raiders keep themselves in almost every.

601
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: Game, and the Raiders are up to eight and a half.

602
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: So interesting. Yeah, it's it's a key number. I'll take

603
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: the Raiders. We were right like this being one of

604
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: our five unlikely because I really like the Raiders today

605
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: and I felt like I got away with one here.

606
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.

607
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, But again, that's trusting the number. It's it's all about,

608
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: like we talk all the time, it's we've seen it

609
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: enough where we've seen it laying on seven and ten

610
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: enough where it's like that's the only reason that we

611
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't really want to give it out was

612
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: because okay, we already been at ten ten and a

613
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: half now it's down to what's seven and a half

614
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: by kickoff? Its just that was a number that I

615
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: was never going to have us put in a contest. But

616
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about this Bengals team. Though they

617
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: are something's wrong with them. Something is definitely missing. And

618
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: it's not just the defense, Like I Remember we were

619
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: blaming the defense because they were so bad with this

620
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Bengals team, But it's offensive too, right, Like, just.

621
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Well, without T Higgins there, they're just a different team.

622
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: We sag with that. I agree.

623
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: When he played, they had more weapons, they had opportunities

624
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: outside of Jamar Chase, and they could convert. Without T Higgins,

625
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: they can't convert.

626
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: It's true. But like a lot of their not I'm

627
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: not here just shit the Cincinnati Bengals, But like their

628
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: wins have been fluky, like that Giants game, they scored

629
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: that rushing touchdof Joe Brow. They didn't get another touchdown

630
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: until there was like five minutes left in that game

631
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: against that terrible Giants team. The Browns, if they didn't

632
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: have that kick return, they probably were going to lose

633
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: that game or at least only win by a field goal,

634
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: right Like they they just to me they had a

635
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: lot of things to go right for them against bad

636
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: teams that kind of helped them have a better record

637
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: than they should have. Did I think they're gonna have

638
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 2: blown out a role today. No, but you're right. Once

639
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: T Higgins was out, a little bit of death sentence

640
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: for them. That's such a huge weapon to their offense.

641
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Like you said, So I'll take the Raiders because it's

642
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: just the Bengals out there there deserve this respect and

643
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: they haven't get to win a home game this season,

644
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: so they've they've been absolutely terrible. So I'm with you

645
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: on that. So that's a way too big of a number.

646
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: I get we get it, though the Raiders are horrible, Minshew.

647
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: It is insane betting on this guy like that, Fumbly.

648
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're watching that game. It's just

649
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: the whole Minshew experience. It's a it's a roller coaster.

650
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Who are you looking at?

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Like, just games that jump out to me that I

652
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: know you're not gonna win a bet right now because

653
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: it's just so gross. But the Giants are plus three

654
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: and a half against the Commanders. I get it, they're dead,

655
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: but they Daniel Jones only plays good against one team

656
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: in his career, it's the Commanders. So it's like, unfortunately,

657
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: I do have to bet this. No one needs a

658
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: rush to the book. I'm betting there right now just

659
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: in case the professionals do come in, maybe the public

660
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: will come in. This will keep going up because it

661
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: was I mean, they're all cash and check. They all

662
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: won big today, all want Washington. That was a really

663
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: public side. So we'll see if they roll that money

664
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: over when we get a plus four. But I'll take

665
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: that early number right now. Maybe I'm just too close

666
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: to it. I love this Rams team so much. That

667
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: was my biggest bet this week. I was all in

668
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: on them. They got it, came through. They're plus one

669
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: and a half right now at Seattle Seahawks. How do

670
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: we not drink on that?

671
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was weird to me. I thought they played great.

672
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: Nothing about it was fluky. They I'm talking about the Rams.

673
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I mean, that was Stafford's best game

674
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: of the year.

675
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: That was Stafford's best game. He had his weapons. Kyrine

676
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Williams continues to be amazing. That defense is getting better

677
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: and better. They play with a lot of energy, like

678
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: they really rushed the passer. We saw Seattle this week.

679
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: They were terrible against a good Bills team in bad weather,

680
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: but they did not adjust. It feels like that's probably

681
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the right side to me. I'm not disagreeing.

682
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Cool and then this is an amazing trend that I mean,

683
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: everyone's seen it online. Evans talked about it too, so basically,

684
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: teams that face the Lions Chad have yet to cover

685
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: a game this season, and it makes sense, right This

686
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions team is incredibly physical. They wear these teams out.

687
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: This this week was the Titans. Titans are minus three

688
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 2: at home against this Patriots team. After that Patriots team

689
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: had a huge win. If it's Drake may or Bersett,

690
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable taking that plus three. Aren't they playing

691
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: much better than this Titans team? The Patriots? You agree,

692
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: you're terrible. Titans are terrible across the board. I mean

693
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: they I cannot believe it when they I'm not gonna

694
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: lie to you. When they got that early lead, I

695
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, maybe this they're gonna stay

696
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: in this game with this Lions team. And then their

697
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: special teams took the field, and you go, you know what,

698
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: They're not just bad offensively defensive, they might have the

699
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: worst special teams in football as well. So across the board,

700
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: they're terrible. Who are they to be catching minus three

701
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: against anybody? So I like that early grab of Patriots

702
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: plus three.

703
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I was watching the Titans, and then I watched a

704
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: little bit of the Broncos and the Panthers, and I

705
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: thought to myself, if you're Brian Callahan, if you're Dave Canalis,

706
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: it's Wednesday night, you're watching film for the ninety sixth

707
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: straight hour. How can you possibly find anything that you

708
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: think gives your team an advantage against anybody else? They

709
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: are completely overmatched in every area of the field. It's amazing.

710
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just can't imagine being the GM of that

711
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: team where it's you got rid of Rabel, you got

712
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: rid of aj Brown, you got rid of Derrick Henry,

713
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: like you're going through this whole new rebuild these last

714
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: three four.

715
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: They got rid of it. They got rid of the GM.

716
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean though, Like everything just these

717
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: last three four years, it's crazy. I think they went

718
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: from being that one seat to where they're at now,

719
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: where they're just they're at the bottom. Like they tried

720
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: to spend money this offseason on their defense. Everywhere they

721
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: spent money, none of that fixed any of their issues.

722
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: All right, who else you got? Because I got one

723
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: more game to discuss?

724
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: All right, This isn't a bet for me. It's just

725
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: an interesting line. Obviously. You know, you talked about that

726
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: Jaguars team being horrible. Eagles are minus seven against the

727
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Jaguars at home. It feels a bit rich to me.

728
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 2: I feel like that number is gonna come down, so

729
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: I'll take the plus seven, but I don't feel great

730
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: about it. I don't know how much I want to investigating

731
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: this Jaguars team another week. Like Chad said, I felt

732
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: like I got not that I got away with one today,

733
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: but it does feel that way where I needed Trevor

734
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: Lawrence a drive to field get me a touchdown, and

735
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: thank god he did.

736
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: What do we think of the Green Bay Packers as

737
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: home underdogs against the Detroit Lions. The line's been going up.

738
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: It was at three and a half, now it's four.

739
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: Give me your lean there.

740
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: We talked last week. I was all in on this

741
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: was going to be an auto play in the Packers

742
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: like this right. That's the issue right now is there's

743
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: no Jordan of Love. So I'm in no rush. You

744
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: can grab Detroit now if you want that side. But

745
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: I was always going to no matter what beyond Green

746
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: Bay in this spot. This is just I've been doing

747
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: this long enough to know that teams like Detroit, who

748
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: have been incredibly hot, it's always different when you play

749
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: your own division, doesn't matter if you can beat up

750
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: in everyone you want, even if you're beating up on

751
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: the best teams on football, when you come back and

752
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: play the crap or your own division, you struggle. Unfortunately

753
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: for them, Green Bay is no crap. This is a

754
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: really good team, a really well coached team that even

755
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: if Jordan Love is out, all right, I mean I'll adjust,

756
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: maybe won't, won't be one of my most confident bents,

757
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: but I'm still gonna like them and the number I

758
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: just think as a whole team and the coaching is too.

759
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Green Bay is just gonna be undervalue here to Districtrade team.

760
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: That's just we talked about this is this is peak.

761
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: This is a peak as you can get the season

762
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: on any team, this Detroite team in this in this matchup.

763
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: So again, I we love Detroit here. We've been riding

764
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: Detroit now for four or five weeks. They've been so

765
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: good to us. That's like, that's like the part of

766
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: me that's eating at it where it's like you can't

767
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: just betray him here. We have to. This is such

768
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: a spot to fade them, so I'll be able to

769
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: break down this game more and figure out what's going on.

770
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: Once I know what the what the news is the

771
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: Jordan love. But as we said here right now, what

772
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: do you think the story could get up? Do you

773
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: think you get up to six? If it is, you know, about.

774
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Six or seven, because I think everybody's going to come

775
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: in on the Lions and nobody's going to run.

776
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: To back Lions outdoors too.

777
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, right, Yeah, So this is a weight

778
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: and this.

779
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: Is probably gonna be our big balls. I can already

780
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: this is a.

781
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Weight and on Thursday we're betting the Packers. I mean,

782
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of what's going to happen at this point.

783
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to check the MVP ads right now. Jared

784
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Goff is still plus seven hundred. Nothing's been updated.

785
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna update because Lamar is gonna drop obviously.

786
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: Right now, Lamar's number one. Josh Allen two mahomes three golf,

787
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: four golf, had fewer than one hundred yards, but he

788
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: had three touchdowns. The Lions basically won that game on

789
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: special teams like you said, and running the ball. Jamiir

790
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: Gibbs and David Montgomery were both amazing. So all right,

791
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: the games that we pegged, like we feel strongest about

792
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo minus six, and I think the Rams plus one

793
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: and a half. You took a little taste of the Giants,

794
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: we'll take a little taste of the Raiders at eight

795
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: and a half. We don't mind the Pats as underdogs

796
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: against the Titans. Everything else is a wait and see.

797
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: It feels fair?

798
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,440
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800
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,160
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