Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, girl drama girl,
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Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And
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Speaker 4: You guys, this week we watched with our people. I
Speaker 4: watched with Gus today.
Speaker 1: Did you did?
Speaker 4: It was the first episode of One Tree Hill, like
Speaker 4: thirteen year old son has ever seen and he had pinions.
Speaker 4: So as as we cruise, did I want to hear them? All?
Speaker 4: Kid had opinions? Joy? How does this? How does this
Speaker 4: episode play out? What do we got? Okay?
Speaker 1: So look it's season five, episode three, My Way Home
Speaker 1: Is Through You, which aired January fifteenth, two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Lucas had found the motivation to write again while also
Speaker 1: trying to turn the Treeho Ravens back into a respectable
Speaker 1: basketball team. That's like a heavy you know, that's a
Speaker 1: lot on your plate.
Speaker 4: There, Lucas.
Speaker 1: Nathan goes to visit Dan in prison, and he's ready
Speaker 1: to step up for his family.
Speaker 4: Literally. Brookie Brooke is working.
Speaker 1: At turning Karen's Cafe into her new close Over Bros.
Speaker 1: Store love this storyline, and Peyton signs her first band
Speaker 1: Yes and mistakes Lindsay's nice gesture for something it's not.
Speaker 1: I mean Haley question mark. Haley tries to help a
Speaker 1: struggling student. Director David Jackson, writer John Ain't Norris go.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, So here's here's the deal. I
Speaker 4: saw some listener comments and they really want us to
Speaker 4: focus on the episode. So you, guys, we're going to
Speaker 4: focus on the episode. Don't understand. Okay, I know I
Speaker 4: felt I felt scolded. I who personally attacked. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I was like, guys, I thought we were talking about
Speaker 4: the episodes.
Speaker 5: Also, though, I gotta say, like, if we have guests,
Speaker 5: we want to hear from our guests. We're not just
Speaker 5: gonna be like, hey, nice to see you, but don't
Speaker 5: talk to us. Just go line by line through the episode.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about my tank top in this episode.
Speaker 4: It was great.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about all your tank tops in
Speaker 5: this episode. Actually I literally wrote them down.
Speaker 4: Oh are you talking about the black and white one?
Speaker 4: The stripey one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my god, I was upset with the necklace chains.
Speaker 4: That's so good, so good, Carol Cutshaw, you look.
Speaker 6: So pretty it makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: Quit seriously before we move on to the tank tops,
Speaker 5: because once we go there, we're never coming back. I
Speaker 5: have a question for our listeners. We have guests, like,
Speaker 5: do you guys want us to do two part episodes?
Speaker 4: That's the gist I'm getting. Is that what it is? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm getting the gist because once I saw a couple
Speaker 4: of people say it, I was like, oh, let's get
Speaker 4: a synopsis, Let's get like a like a round table
Speaker 4: from everyone. And it feel like people love the guests,
Speaker 4: but they don't want to lose us talking about the episode.
Speaker 4: So h notes have been heard. We appreciate your listenership.
Speaker 4: We are going to try to make everybody happy, including ourselves,
Speaker 4: because girl, I love a tangent.
Speaker 5: I agree. And you know what, it makes me realize
Speaker 5: because when James came on, we were all just having
Speaker 5: such a good time that we kept him forever. I
Speaker 5: mean you guys we had him in the zoom room
Speaker 5: for hours and I was like, oh, maybe instead of
Speaker 5: you know, with people who we don't have that much
Speaker 5: to catch up on like we do with one of
Speaker 5: our core five. Maybe when we have a guest, we
Speaker 5: should try to use that same method and like, have
Speaker 5: the guest come on, have a guest catch up and chat,
Speaker 5: and then do some Q and A with them and
Speaker 5: then do a strictly episode focused thing.
Speaker 4: Is that what that means they're going to have to
Speaker 4: wait two weeks to hear the next episode of the
Speaker 4: TV show. So y'all in the comments, you just tell
Speaker 4: us what you want. We're listening.
Speaker 5: We're giving you option with guests or option B. When
Speaker 5: the guests come we have a little less time to
Speaker 5: talk about the episode.
Speaker 6: You tell us what you like.
Speaker 1: Sophia is breaking it down into a spreadsheet already, listen.
Speaker 6: I just need to know.
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's multiple choice with only two choices.
Speaker 4: I want a pie chart with the data at the ends. Race,
Speaker 4: But seriously, we are here for you. We're here to
Speaker 4: serve you. Friends.
Speaker 5: Now I choose to refocus us on Hillary's tank tops.
Speaker 4: Well, no, we have to start at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the episode, because now my brain is all like, oh god,
Speaker 4: how do we make them happy? How do we do this?
Speaker 4: I love that as the fans say, we want the rewatch,
Speaker 4: we want the recap, talk about everything. Lucas is giving
Speaker 4: the most extensive recap in the history of our show.
Speaker 4: In these first three episodes. We have a recap every
Speaker 4: single episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it always starts with my name is Lucas Scott,
Speaker 1: Like we're really going all the way back to the
Speaker 1: very very beginning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it really is kind of wild.
Speaker 4: It had to be a studio note, right, like explain
Speaker 4: to people why you're not still in high school or
Speaker 4: why you're skipping all this time. You know what I bet.
Speaker 5: It is is, first of all, it sets the stage
Speaker 5: on the time jump for any fans who, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe they've been busy. It's only the third episode of
Speaker 5: the season. They might tune in and go.
Speaker 6: Where's college? What happened?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I bet to your point about a studio note,
Speaker 5: they were like, well, there's we see that there's new
Speaker 5: viewers and they don't know what happened.
Speaker 4: We can't expect them to go.
Speaker 6: Back, so give them a recap.
Speaker 1: I was wondering that if maybe because it's it was
Speaker 1: starting at such a totally new place that just people
Speaker 1: were telling their friends like, oh, you don't have to
Speaker 1: go back and catch up on all the episodes. You
Speaker 1: could start right now because it's kind of all new.
Speaker 4: You could just watch the first three minutes and know everything.
Speaker 5: But here's what I want to know, if we're really
Speaker 5: starting fresh. Why in an empty house are Lucas and
Speaker 5: Lindsay still live in a in Lucas's high school bedroom
Speaker 5: and b why is his desk in there?
Speaker 1: There's a whole house where he go, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's click and she's sleeping.
Speaker 4: Gus. The first thing out of Gus's mouth is that's
Speaker 4: a creepy place for him to have his desk.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 6: Just staring at her sleeping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were folding closed together, and I guess I
Speaker 4: was like looking down folding pants and I look up
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're not wrong, my guy, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would actually be really creepy if I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the end of my bed and there's a desk
Speaker 1: and you know, if you sit on the end of it,
Speaker 1: you're just staring into bed. Yeah, it's a little weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where is Karen? Do we know where Karen is?
Speaker 4: She's in Australia.
Speaker 1: She's in Australia, but he's kept his room instead of
Speaker 1: taking over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of strange, but there's.
Speaker 5: There's a whole house. Even if even if look we're
Speaker 5: just post college, right, like even if a young guy
Speaker 5: in his twenties is like, I don't want to have
Speaker 5: segs with my girlfriend in my mom's bed.
Speaker 6: Okay, friend, I get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, Why don't you have a desk in living
Speaker 5: room by the window.
Speaker 4: I don't know a single writer who writes at a desk.
Speaker 4: Every writer I know either writes at the kitchen table
Speaker 4: or the coffee table or a Starbucks, Like, oh, nobody
Speaker 4: has a desk.
Speaker 1: Was it a full desk because now I'm now I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: but or was it just that he had his laptop
Speaker 1: there and he didn't want to leave the room because
Speaker 1: he kind of wanted to be near Lindsay but then
Speaker 1: didn't want to.
Speaker 5: Go full wooden, grown man like grampo desk. Like joy,
Speaker 5: it's a grampa desk.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: I love that you notice that, and Gus I didn't
Speaker 1: notice that at all.
Speaker 4: It's so full. And the other thing that Gus noticed
Speaker 4: is he was like he closed that laptop awful fast
Speaker 4: when she walked over there.
Speaker 6: Uh, Huh, I noticed that too.
Speaker 4: Not wrong, wrong, Yeah, he's already been shifty, or maybe
Speaker 4: he's just insecure.
Speaker 1: And how about her vulnerability, like I'm so I'm so scared. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the other scene later, I guess, but if
Speaker 1: we're on that storyline, like this is the storyline. But
Speaker 1: he is being a little shift. I mean, he's so direct,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how else you're supposed to answer
Speaker 1: a question like that, should I be worried about us that?
Speaker 1: How else do you answer that question?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Worry, No, I'm just gonna say that. I mean,
Speaker 4: just so a little, just worry a little, only.
Speaker 5: Ten percent worried. I'm mostly okay, I'm having some feelings.
Speaker 1: But it's the kiss on the forehead that got me.
Speaker 1: It was like he's like, we're good, everything's fine, I
Speaker 1: love you, and then it's just instead of kissing her
Speaker 1: on the mouth because they're on the forehead, it was
Speaker 1: just a little like huh yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean code is that you have to like make
Speaker 4: fun of your exes a little bit in front of
Speaker 4: the person you're with, so they know you have to
Speaker 4: be like would that buck tooth girl please come on? Right?
Speaker 4: There's gotta be like a dig unless or it's not real.
Speaker 4: You got a dig or it's not real. Lucas should
Speaker 4: have said something like Peyton, cry baby, Peyton, come on,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be around that.
Speaker 6: Well, So I.
Speaker 5: Wonder if that was a David Jackson note, knowing that's
Speaker 5: our director for our friends at home, knowing that at
Speaker 5: the end of the episode, Lindsay had to be vulnerable
Speaker 5: with Lucas and say, look, I've been trying to play
Speaker 5: a cool I'm really nervous because of these women from
Speaker 5: your past. I wonder if the director was like, as
Speaker 5: soon as she comes over, shut the laptop. Give her
Speaker 5: reasons to feel like fighting something from her. Yeah, if
Speaker 5: that was a directorial choice, it was a very good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, the first thing I want to do
Speaker 4: is open that laptop as a check. The fact that
Speaker 4: she didn't open it when he left the room, I
Speaker 4: was like, do it, do it?
Speaker 6: I was like, man, she.
Speaker 1: Is She's so confident. She's such a Michaela is so
Speaker 1: great for this part because she really is so confident,
Speaker 1: so non threatening in the way that her manner is
Speaker 1: that you know, she comes to your office with this
Speaker 1: bamboo and it's so sweet and sincere.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I might disagree. I loved
Speaker 4: this storyline so much because I absolutely like bought Peyton's
Speaker 4: side of it. Like I'm saying, I remember being giddy
Speaker 4: about having to do the whole recap with like, and
Speaker 4: then she said, I just want you to know I'm here,
Speaker 4: Like I like, there's a calm memory of saying it,
Speaker 4: because she was peen on her territory. You can't tell
Speaker 4: me otherwise.
Speaker 5: Well, and what I love about watching the two of
Speaker 5: you play all of those scenes together is that you're
Speaker 5: both right and then you're both saying no, no, no,
Speaker 5: I'm totally taking the high road, but there are big
Speaker 5: feelings involved.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Peyton wasn't looking for Lucas in this episode.
Speaker 4: She was about the work. She was about, like, right here,
Speaker 4: my best friend. It would be one thing if Peyton
Speaker 4: was like, oh oops, I'm here at the high school.
Speaker 4: You know you'll get there. But I absolutely, uh, I'm
Speaker 4: team Peyton on this one. There's no reason Lindsay should
Speaker 4: have brought her bamboo. There's no reason it's Peyton Sawyer's hometown.
Speaker 4: If someone came to you in your own hometown, yah,
Speaker 4: can I get you anything, and you're like, pet that
Speaker 4: out here? How get out? Oh?
Speaker 1: It seemed so sincere to me that she was genuinely like,
Speaker 1: I guess me putting if I put myself in her shoes.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you did. You you ran this town,
Speaker 1: and so I don't. I'm not here to step on
Speaker 1: your toes. I want to make peace because we have
Speaker 1: to coexist. It's it's like a little bit Joelene.
Speaker 4: In Peyton's mind, there's no reason to make peace because
Speaker 4: it's like it's a chicken or the egg situation. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean. There's no reason to make peace
Speaker 4: because there's no conflict. Do you is Lindsay? Is Lindsay
Speaker 4: insinuating that that count? Here? Is that?
Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 4: This guys? I loved it.
Speaker 5: I am loving this And by the way, what I
Speaker 5: love about it is watching you two debate the sides
Speaker 5: of this argument. I feel like Brook being like, listen,
Speaker 5: I don't know what to say. I get it. But
Speaker 5: she also brought me a bad boom, so it is
Speaker 5: a speech that she's given to more than one person.
Speaker 1: But Peyton's right at the end, She's like, but you're
Speaker 1: also his ex girlfriend.
Speaker 4: It's my favorite little story like, you know, Hailey didn't
Speaker 4: get a bamboo. Haley didn't get a teacher bamboo. That's it.
Speaker 4: We solved the riddle by the way.
Speaker 5: You're right, But Haley and Lindsay have a friendship already,
Speaker 5: and so it's well done because you can see everybody's side.
Speaker 5: What I will say tracks for me, and I felt,
Speaker 5: I really felt it was being represented well in this moment.
Speaker 5: This is no secret to either of you because we've
Speaker 5: been friends for twenty years. But my therapist a couple
Speaker 5: months ago was like, here's the thing. You have big
Speaker 5: feelings and you are a sensitive person and it makes
Speaker 5: you a good friend and a very passionate advocate. And
Speaker 5: sometimes you bring big feelings before they are appropriate. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you're not wrong, I guess because when
Speaker 5: I feel like I've bonded with someone, I'm like, now
Speaker 5: that I'm in, I'm in for life. You get arrested,
Speaker 5: you call me. She's like, you have to bond with
Speaker 5: people for a long time before you can like volunteer
Speaker 5: to build them out of jail, Sophia, And.
Speaker 6: I'm like, do you?
Speaker 5: And that's kind of interesting, right, is Like Lindsey is
Speaker 5: bringing her big feelings and a big story and this
Speaker 5: whole thing to Peyton, and Peyton's like, I don't know you,
Speaker 5: so I'm suspicious, like it's too soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously you've read Lucas's books, so you know I
Speaker 4: had a stalker. You know, I don't trust new people, like,
Speaker 4: don't bring me, I don't need you. I'm working. I
Speaker 4: had a stalker.
Speaker 6: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: Need another one. Yeah, ew god.
Speaker 5: I loved the way that wrapped up, Like when you
Speaker 5: came into the store. I went, oh god, oh god,
Speaker 5: oh god, oh god, because I just knew I was
Speaker 5: going to pull out one of those plants.
Speaker 4: I didn't know. It was great. You did it, man,
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm so glad.
Speaker 4: Gus ga foud he loved it. Oh that was the
Speaker 4: part where he was like, yeah, you are a bitch it.
Speaker 5: Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 4: But I liked Lindsay is just so easy to like
Speaker 4: work with. She's so easy to work with because she
Speaker 4: plays that straight man part so well, so you can
Speaker 4: be a little bit broader with your reaction, Like it
Speaker 4: was cool to be a little like Mustache Turley because
Speaker 4: payone never gets to do that, you know. Yeah, So yeah,
Speaker 4: she's great, great, great great.
Speaker 5: That was something that was so refreshing to me about
Speaker 5: this episode. And I have such sense memory of so
Speaker 5: many of the scenes that we shot in the store
Speaker 5: and on the deck of that house, all of it
Speaker 5: because I had this nostalgia watching Brooke and Peyton in
Speaker 5: this friend journey, because Haley's struggling and Nathan's struggling. So
Speaker 5: many people are struggling and figuring it out. And to
Speaker 5: see these two girls owning their space like grown ups
Speaker 5: but getting giddy like little teenagers. It felt so fun,
Speaker 5: and in the arc of the episode, it was payoff
Speaker 5: that I needed, Like Lucas is writing a book and
Speaker 5: Lindsay's being really classy, and then you and Nathan are
Speaker 5: really in the depths of grownups but on the way out.
Speaker 5: And then you've got these two girls figuring out their
Speaker 5: business and they're they're you know, screaming and jumping up
Speaker 5: and down about getting to be roommates. I loved the
Speaker 5: way they gave us so many ups and downs through
Speaker 5: the episode.
Speaker 1: You guys had boss moves. This episode, so many boss moves.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 4: Well, we have to talk about stuff because when this
Speaker 4: episode airs, it's Teacher Appreciation Week, and Haley is our teacher,
Speaker 4: and so you going to the basketball court and trying
Speaker 4: to fix this kid because you can't necessarily fix your husband.
Speaker 4: Is you know, that's every teacher's that's their mantra. It's like,
Speaker 4: if I can just save one, I can just save
Speaker 4: one of them, and most of them save many, many
Speaker 4: more than just one. Yeah, but happy teacher Appreciation Week.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you so much from your tutor girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was funny. Haley was in full soccer mom ninety
Speaker 1: soccer mom mode with the travel coffee mug, like before
Speaker 1: anybody was making cute coffee mugs, and you know, the
Speaker 1: low heels and the khaki pants and just the bob.
Speaker 1: It was all very very ninety soccer Mom was so
Speaker 1: fun and yeah, I loved, I loved, I mean just
Speaker 1: to Haley's storyline was minimal in this episode, aside from
Speaker 1: the little cameo by the Juicy Tube lip gloss when
Speaker 1: she was having lunch with Lindsay. For me, nothing much
Speaker 1: else was super interesting for Haley except the dinner at
Speaker 1: the end. That was great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, You've said before that you felt like in some
Speaker 4: of the seasons you were put there to be the
Speaker 4: person that was like, why are you doing this so
Speaker 4: that other characters could, you know, spit out their exposition.
Speaker 4: But the stuff that you were doing this episode was
Speaker 4: important because you informed so much of like who Lindsay is,
Speaker 4: that she has made an imprint in the community in
Speaker 4: brook and Payton's absence, that she's a cool girl because
Speaker 4: you put her through the ringer. You know, you inform
Speaker 4: so much, and then you do the same thing again
Speaker 4: when you go to visit Peyton and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I see where this is going. Calm it down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say it actually felt so
Speaker 5: fully formed to me. So much of the episode, for
Speaker 5: so many people felt like they were catching up. You know,
Speaker 5: there was a lot of learning that still needed to
Speaker 5: happen about certain characters, you know, partially because Peyton's trying
Speaker 5: to sign a band, partially because we're still getting to
Speaker 5: know Lindsay. But I didn't feel like you were absent
Speaker 5: in the episode in any way. Hayley was so grounded
Speaker 5: and like every scene was meaningful, even the fact that
Speaker 5: you know she comes home and she's so tired that
Speaker 5: she just blurts out how she's really feeling. To the
Speaker 5: new Nanny and then it's.
Speaker 6: Like, ah, like it all just felt so honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that that's possible because Haley's the
Speaker 5: one who has stayed there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this is the beginning of us
Speaker 1: really seeing Haley start to hold everything together, which eventually
Speaker 1: takes its toll on her because you can't be the
Speaker 1: person who's just constantly holding everything together, holding space for
Speaker 1: everybody else, doing everything for everybody else without falling apart
Speaker 1: at some point. So it's and that was one of
Speaker 1: the longest arcs on our show, so it's fun to
Speaker 1: kind of see the beginning of that here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But and it was great, And I loved seeing my
Speaker 1: brain's going in a million different directions because I don't
Speaker 1: know what to talk about next, but like if we
Speaker 1: stay on the girls, Yeah, that was great for Haley.
Speaker 1: I loved being able to watch her try and help
Speaker 1: Quentin and you know how that storyline is going to develop.
Speaker 4: It was so fun.
Speaker 1: But the boss moves for me of watching Peyton go
Speaker 1: through this arc with the record label and watching Brooke
Speaker 1: walk in and be like, yep, I'm taking over the cafe. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll take this house please, It was just they were
Speaker 1: such great moments of turning points where we're going to
Speaker 1: see the beginning of all these new trajectories of life
Speaker 1: start to take place. I loved this episode for that reason.
Speaker 4: Actually, it was interesting to watch it with a thirteen
Speaker 4: year old because I liked it for all of the
Speaker 4: like d da da da, our characters are grown ups
Speaker 4: now and like we're doing cool stuff. But there were
Speaker 4: some lines that were some real doozies in here where
Speaker 4: Gus was like, wow, you guys had to I had
Speaker 4: to say that which ones? Which ones? I didn't know? God,
Speaker 4: I couldn't even write them all down. Well, you know,
Speaker 4: we'll get to it. A lot of the mouth with
Speaker 4: his boss stuff. What oh yeah, what a weird storyline
Speaker 4: Gus had all Pinians while we're making boss moves, mouth
Speaker 4: is doing some weird That was so weird.
Speaker 1: I was such a strange storyline out of the blue.
Speaker 1: It was just so like of all the things.
Speaker 6: It but you know what it is because we've talked
Speaker 6: to me, well yeah, yeah, I mean more of.
Speaker 5: That personal ego of I'm the coolest person here, I'm
Speaker 5: the best at my job, and you judge me because
Speaker 5: you don't think I'm hot, like him giving a speech
Speaker 5: about like you and your hot friends and your hot
Speaker 5: body that you hide under your outfits and.
Speaker 6: You go be hot.
Speaker 4: What a line? So weird.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm so sorry this lovely actress who
Speaker 5: actually Lee has great chemistry with by the way, yeah,
Speaker 5: like when they kissed, I was like, oh, oh, dear,
Speaker 5: But they've taken this girl who's our age, and they've
Speaker 5: styled her in older ladies, ill fitting blazers, and they've
Speaker 5: put her hair in this like nineteen sixties like kind
Speaker 5: of inspired Bufonte whatever it was, with like a big
Speaker 5: twisty overlap in the back. Like it doesn't make any
Speaker 5: sense for like a young successful producer at a news studio.
Speaker 5: And I think maybe they were trying to age her
Speaker 5: up because they hired her because she was a good
Speaker 5: actress and she was young, and they didn't think she
Speaker 5: looked old enough to be his boss. But if you're
Speaker 5: gonna have him give her this big speech about being
Speaker 5: this hot girl, let her be like a hot girl
Speaker 5: in her twenties. It was it was just like it
Speaker 5: was so confusing because I was like, this is not
Speaker 5: a person who's walking around this office presenting like, oh,
Speaker 5: I know this, this, and this about myself. She's like
Speaker 5: a buttoned up professional person who's just mean.
Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't understand why he like, why
Speaker 1: did he kiss her?
Speaker 4: So Skills tells him this whole story about how I
Speaker 4: had this teacher who was being to me and the
Speaker 4: way I made her be quiet is that I grabbed
Speaker 4: her and I kissed her and that's not all I did,
Speaker 4: and then she loved me. I mean, this is coming
Speaker 4: three episodes after our season four finale where we were
Speaker 4: like step touching us and it's like, yeah, listen, somebody's
Speaker 4: just got to kiss a woman and get her to
Speaker 4: shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what they write in you know what they
Speaker 5: really want when they tell you they hate you, They
Speaker 5: want you to kiss them.
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, that's.
Speaker 4: Not it, actually don't.
Speaker 6: That's never want you to kiss us.
Speaker 5: We'll just kiss you.
Speaker 6: That's odd.
Speaker 4: Poor Lee Norris, like my know Lee Norris having to
Speaker 4: process all of this as a third party. He's a
Speaker 4: victim of this too.
Speaker 6: But you know what I really commend about him.
Speaker 5: And we've talked about this too, right, It's Paul's mantra,
Speaker 5: like commit commit Yeah, when you're not the producer. When
Speaker 5: you don't get to control what's on the page, you
Speaker 5: have to go to work and do your job, and
Speaker 5: that can be really difficult. And Lee takes this, frankly
Speaker 5: like shitty storyline for him and he commits, and when
Speaker 5: he's talking to her about how he feels and how
Speaker 5: he feels rejected, there is so much emotion in his
Speaker 5: eyes and his face is getting red and he it's
Speaker 5: like he doubled down on how to believe in the
Speaker 5: scene because he knew why it was ikey, and so
Speaker 5: he had to make it true for himself as an actor.
Speaker 5: And as much as I hated it, I also loved watching.
Speaker 4: He made it interesting.
Speaker 6: He made that interesting interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I feel I have a vague recollection
Speaker 4: of where this is going. And I think I hate
Speaker 4: it for Mouth because he's opening himself up to someone
Speaker 4: who's cruel to him and has been really demeaning to him,
Speaker 4: and that's not attractive, Like, don't kiss people who are
Speaker 4: like that's not cool. Mouth should be kissing like the best,
Speaker 4: nicest girl, and not this woman who keeps telling him.
Speaker 4: She literally says I wrote to the quote you haven't
Speaker 4: earned it yet, which also felt like a very meta
Speaker 4: dig like, I know you think you're great, you all
Speaker 4: haven't earned it yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like he's going to feel bad about
Speaker 4: this relationship later. It's going to make him feel cheap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't remember where it goes. Oh no, Now I
Speaker 5: have this terrible sense of foreboding and no clear recollection
Speaker 5: of what happened.
Speaker 4: I don't think she's gonna get nice. I don't think
Speaker 4: so either. But how much cooler would this part have
Speaker 4: been if it had been like, like, I don't know
Speaker 4: a woman in her forties, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're calling her a cougar and she's already Jess are right.
Speaker 6: It really is so weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she should have a couple kids pictures on her desk,
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Yeah? No. Also, at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the episode, we see Victoria just pissed,
Speaker 4: and it occurred to me after watching the met gala, Uh,
Speaker 4: she's got such Christ Jenner energy. Yes, it's all that
Speaker 4: I see, Like, I just see like Chris Jenner being
Speaker 4: like and my darlings are taking over the world. I
Speaker 4: feel like there's an Instagram post for that pops up
Speaker 4: all the time. That's a good call.
Speaker 5: You're right, there's all those memes about how no matter
Speaker 5: what happens in that world, she'll make get into something
Speaker 5: that makes money.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Whether that's true or not, By the way, I have
Speaker 5: no opinion. Please don't come for me. I'm just talking
Speaker 5: about what Danna Nu says. But it's interesting when you
Speaker 5: think about it in that lens. You're right, that sort
Speaker 5: of sharpness and that work is everything attitude that feels
Speaker 5: caricaturized and victorious. Says to Brooke, are you doing drugs?
Speaker 5: Because if you are, it's okay.
Speaker 4: I love value. It's hysterical.
Speaker 1: That is so the woman who has never been around
Speaker 1: for her daughter. She took off for every year, every summer,
Speaker 1: always living somewhere else, always traveling, like you can stay home, right,
Speaker 1: you're fine.
Speaker 4: How old are you? You're thirteen? Now, you're good. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'll see you later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well we'll spin all this around as soon as
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I mean, just always onto the next thing,
Speaker 1: always working. And I love the reveal and the fact
Speaker 1: that she is your mother, and the fact that they
Speaker 1: thought somebody in the writer's room thought of that, Let's
Speaker 1: have the woman running Brooks Company with her be her mom.
Speaker 4: Because who else what complicated relationship that would be.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine your mother who basically neglected it, abandoned you.
Speaker 1: But she's so effing good at her job that you
Speaker 1: hire her to run your company. It's brilliant for TV.
Speaker 5: It's incredible. And the attitude in that scene, it was
Speaker 5: such a great mic drop. It was a perfect way
Speaker 5: to end the episode, because what does anyone say after that?
Speaker 5: And yeah, when she goes on her rant about how
Speaker 5: I've stupidly charged a house to the company, and she
Speaker 5: says Brook and I go, mother, yeah, and there's.
Speaker 4: Just no air. It's a little piano m and I
Speaker 4: just love that.
Speaker 5: Daphne picks up back to work. I'll see you on
Speaker 5: the plane, my dutiful daughter. And on the way out,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys noticed this, but.
Speaker 6: She looks at you Hillary and she goes, nice to
Speaker 6: see you.
Speaker 5: Peyton.
Speaker 4: I wrote that down.
Speaker 3: I wrote it down.
Speaker 5: She says it in the weirdest way, and it was
Speaker 5: such a genius thing for Daphne to do.
Speaker 4: She hit that tea man, it was like, I am
Speaker 4: going to enunciate this by Peyton.
Speaker 5: I would punch you if I could.
Speaker 4: Oh god, she hates Peyton so much. She's so brilliant.
Speaker 5: I love it. Great actress, and I love that in
Speaker 5: this sort of we're grown up, but we're still kids
Speaker 5: and we're figuring out the intersection of these things that
Speaker 5: immediately were both children again.
Speaker 6: And you you, oh.
Speaker 4: My god, you looked like such a little girl in
Speaker 4: that moment. You were so like, what do I do?
Speaker 4: Like when when Pete says what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: And you just gotta shrug your shoulders and you're like,
Speaker 4: it's like you don't even have the energy to rebel anymore.
Speaker 4: It's just like, but you bought this house, Now, what
Speaker 4: are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: You walked into a house and did it what everyone
Speaker 1: dreams of doing.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, said that was so great. I'll take it.
Speaker 5: I'll take it and everything in it.
Speaker 4: Please leave it out.
Speaker 5: That woman, I remember her, she was so funny and
Speaker 5: her face when she asks about the cat while she's
Speaker 5: holding him. I did a full spit take.
Speaker 4: It was great, But like, what if Brooke had said yes,
Speaker 4: I want your cat, like Gus was horrified that you
Speaker 4: might say yes, so I'm going to give up cat.
Speaker 6: It's incredible.
Speaker 4: Don't don't take the cat, don't take the cat. Epic
Speaker 4: epic boss move. I love it. The boss move is
Speaker 4: to take the cat and change its name be like
Speaker 4: you are Dorothy Now. I think it's cool that we've
Speaker 4: introduced that iconic quote from Karen's that has now carried
Speaker 4: over into close Over Bros. And the framing of that
Speaker 4: shot with Brooke and Lucas and their arms crossed and
Speaker 4: the quote behind them is like my favorite shot of
Speaker 4: the show. That was so like, that's the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I loved it, and I really there's something really nice.
Speaker 5: You know, as much as she's trying to figure out
Speaker 5: her family relationship, it strikes me that this is one
Speaker 5: of the best points we've seen Brooke in with all
Speaker 5: of her friendships. You know, like we are so strong
Speaker 5: as these childhood best friends come back together, we're going
Speaker 5: to figure it out together. And Brook and Lucas are
Speaker 5: in this great place where they're buds, like they're really buds,
Speaker 5: and there's such fun stuff for them coming down the line.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't want to spoil anything for anybody,
Speaker 5: but you know, there's like a major fake out scene
Speaker 5: coming in a couple of episodes this season, and there's
Speaker 5: just great stuff and I don't know. I remember. I
Speaker 5: remember I remembered watching the episode how good all of
Speaker 5: these scenes felt. I really enjoyed these storylines. They felt nice.
Speaker 4: As an actor, yeah, Joy, you had to do some
Speaker 4: sad stuff in this episode, but oh my show was fun.
Speaker 4: And I do have that like kind of static electricity
Speaker 4: feeling that sense memory. I loved your stuff that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember filming it. I remember enjoying it. And David
Speaker 4: Jackson is a director that I got to work with
Speaker 4: again on White Collar, and he's just a standup dude,
Speaker 4: and you know, we were lucky to have him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did such a good job with us. And
Speaker 5: it is really nice, you know, Joy, you said it
Speaker 5: watching Peyton be so happy, like seeing you happy and
Speaker 5: empowered and hungry for work.
Speaker 4: Taking charge of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love seeing you laugh and smile and look
Speaker 5: at these dudes and be like, I'm the one take
Speaker 5: you to leave it.
Speaker 4: I got two things they don't have me and an
Speaker 4: interest in you like that, And I'm gonna put that
Speaker 4: in my repertoire.
Speaker 6: It was a good one.
Speaker 4: Kevin fetterline, can we talk about Kevin for a second.
Speaker 4: I was lovely you guys. I was not into the
Speaker 4: idea of Kevin Fetterline being stunt cast as the lead
Speaker 4: singer of this band because I'd interviewed Britney Spears at
Speaker 4: MTV and she was like a sweet chick and she
Speaker 4: had fun on some like really difficult times. And now
Speaker 4: people are finally addressing that tabloid media storm that surrounded her.
Speaker 4: But I was always really grossed out by it because
Speaker 4: she was never a malicious or mean person, and I
Speaker 4: just didn't like how all that played out, And so
Speaker 4: I was confused how to feel about Kevin. And he
Speaker 4: showed up, and that man worked so hard. He was
Speaker 4: so insecure about like how do I deliver these lines?
Speaker 4: He took direction, he really tried, and he was so
Speaker 4: nice to everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, super professional, really eager. Didn't come in cocky, which
Speaker 1: is funny because he was playing such a cocky character.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what shocked me.
Speaker 5: Because I remember all that stuff, the chatter of well,
Speaker 5: what's going on and this seems weird and is this
Speaker 5: somebody kind of bullying Britney Spears in a way like
Speaker 5: we were all nervous. But I didn't work with him,
Speaker 5: so I remember just asking you, like, what's.
Speaker 6: The deal, what's the vibe.
Speaker 4: Is he nice?
Speaker 6: Is he rude?
Speaker 5: Like a are we?
Speaker 4: Are we?
Speaker 6: Anti? Like what's the you know?
Speaker 4: What are we? It's it's basically the conversation we had
Speaker 4: about Lindsay and clothes over bros. We had my Kevin
Speaker 4: Petderli what are we? What side?
Speaker 5: What are we?
Speaker 6: You tell me? I don't know the details.
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 5: Was laughing watching the episode because I remember everybody's saying, no,
Speaker 5: he's great, he's working really hard, he's really polite to
Speaker 5: the whole crew, andah, awesome, Well that's nice.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 5: I had no idea that his character's band was like
Speaker 5: a rock band at all.
Speaker 4: Gus goes was that music cool at that time? And yeah, dude,
Speaker 4: it was. Yeah. No, they they had a couple different
Speaker 4: like bands that he would They were like, well, what
Speaker 4: we can we get? That? Like? Sounds like him?
Speaker 6: Interesting And I.
Speaker 4: Think that was part of why he was so deferential,
Speaker 4: because he was even like, why'd you cast me? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 4: I ended up going out with him in Wilmington, like
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of people after work went out and
Speaker 4: there was this really surreal moment where he ordered trays
Speaker 4: of shots for the entire crew and so I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there with Kevin Federline taking like tequila shots and you
Speaker 4: know when you're in those moments of absurdity and you
Speaker 4: know you're in it and you're like, I'm gonna remember
Speaker 4: this forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never referenced it again, but like, this is
Speaker 1: not normal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, doing shots with our entire crew with Kevin Feederline
Speaker 4: was a weird one. He was very sweet, he was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the appearance of the stripe tank top
Speaker 1: for Peyton was in that serious.
Speaker 4: But I was thinking, like, am I wrong?
Speaker 1: But I feel like generally Peyton has been like things
Speaker 1: happened to her and then she has to deal with it.
Speaker 1: That seems to be like a lot of what's going on.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why it felt so exciting and refreshing
Speaker 1: to see Peyton really taking the reins and making decisions
Speaker 1: for herself and sticking up for herself and going out
Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, here's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: I'm going to sell this and I'm going to believe
Speaker 1: in myself and believe in this dream because I didn't
Speaker 1: just leave La for nothing to come back here and
Speaker 1: be too scared and you know, kind of pussy foot
Speaker 1: around it and then just like fail, I'm really going
Speaker 1: to go for it. And I loved watching her just
Speaker 1: jump in with both feet.
Speaker 4: It was so cool. There's a nice feeling like when
Speaker 4: you come back to your hometown and you've already dealt
Speaker 4: with something harder, like like I remember going to New
Speaker 4: York City and being so scared, like so scared, and
Speaker 4: I had so many people tell me like, oh, you'll
Speaker 4: go for six months and then you'll transfer back to
Speaker 4: a school in Virginia, Like you'll go, but you'll come back.
Speaker 4: And then like being able to come home and be like, no,
Speaker 4: I I know what I'm doing now, like I did
Speaker 4: the thing and I can keep doing it. I like
Speaker 4: the feeling that Peyton's like I went and I did
Speaker 4: the thing, and I can keep doing it. And now
Speaker 4: I can include the people that I love, like I
Speaker 4: can invite my friends over to my office, I can
Speaker 4: consult with them about what's cool. That's the gift of
Speaker 4: being able to go away from your hometown and bring
Speaker 4: something back to it. So I'm excited about the development
Speaker 4: of Red Bedroom Records. Gus this is all This is
Speaker 4: the Gus episode. He really liked the office and he
Speaker 4: was like oh my god, the records on the wall?
Speaker 4: Did you place those? And I was like, as a
Speaker 4: matter of fact, buddy, I did because our art department
Speaker 4: just pulled all the records from Peyton's old bedroom and
Speaker 4: I just sat there one day with them and we
Speaker 4: pulled the ones that we thought were like cool, the
Speaker 4: ones I liked, and those are the ones that we
Speaker 4: put in the background, and they were. It made it
Speaker 4: feel like a real space that was mine. We need
Speaker 4: to talk about the Scott family, Dan Nathan, Yeah, weird
Speaker 4: prison any Carrie keeping it from Haley. I mean, the
Speaker 4: most touching part of the episode for me was when
Speaker 4: Haley sits down and says, I missed you. That's a
Speaker 4: really hard thing to admit to someone that you live
Speaker 4: in the same house with. Yeah. That hit me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I understood that at the time.
Speaker 1: That's a mature thing you understand when you're older and
Speaker 1: you've been through some hard times. I think when I
Speaker 1: was what were we like twenty four? To me it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I missed this. Sad, but yeah
Speaker 1: it was. It's a profound thing to say.
Speaker 4: You're right, are you regretting hiring nanny Carey? Are you feeling,
Speaker 4: is Haley feeling weird about it?
Speaker 1: Yet you know, it's amazing, Like I'm watching this and
Speaker 1: she is crossing all kinds of boundaries already, Like they're
Speaker 1: making it seem like it's she's cute and sweet and nice,
Speaker 1: but I'm like the way that she talks to Nathan,
Speaker 1: even just like passing by his bedroom and having a conversation,
Speaker 1: it's just so inappropriate. Well, you know, while he's stretching
Speaker 1: on the floor and then asking about his it's like
Speaker 1: that I'm empathetic. I'm here, I'm an opening open book,
Speaker 1: listening ear. But it's not that's not what you're here for.
Speaker 1: You're you're here to watch the kid. Why are you
Speaker 1: talking to me about? How do I feel? Being a
Speaker 1: state hometown hero? All these things? It just feels like
Speaker 1: it just felt so inappropriate, but it was done in
Speaker 1: a really subtle way that I guess that's kind of
Speaker 1: how it works. When somebody's pushing your boundaries. You're kind
Speaker 1: of like, are you trespassing or is this You're just
Speaker 1: being nice? I think you're just being nice. Right, That's okay, right,
Speaker 1: I Mean I'm a little uncomfortable, but it's just me
Speaker 1: you're fine, It's fine.
Speaker 6: Right, it's in an episode.
Speaker 5: It's the same as Peyton and Lindsay trying to figure
Speaker 5: each other out, but it's in this other arena. And
Speaker 5: I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 4: Right, she's an employee. It's totally inappropriate.
Speaker 5: Well sure, but just like you've got Peyton going she's
Speaker 5: being weird. And then and you've got Nathan kind of
Speaker 5: looking at Nanny Carey like what are you doing here?
Speaker 5: Why are you talking to me? She just keeps being nice.
Speaker 4: She should be and exactly.
Speaker 5: But then you've got this, just as you're saying you
Speaker 5: have this, Is it or isn't it?
Speaker 4: Is she?
Speaker 5: Is she just nice and a little clueless? Or am
Speaker 5: I weirded out by this for a reason?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Has she done anything wrong? No, but I have a
Speaker 5: feeling I don't know, it's smart so iggy.
Speaker 4: When she said, oh, you beat us in high school
Speaker 4: and I cried for a week, that was the line
Speaker 4: where I was like, this chick a level. She didn't
Speaker 4: cry for a week, Like that's a weird thing to say.
Speaker 5: You know what did it for me was her walking
Speaker 5: in and asking him how he was doing and being like, well,
Speaker 5: you know, I used to be a personal trainer.
Speaker 6: I was like, nope, nope, nope, you're dropping hints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no boundary crossing and listen.
Speaker 5: I understand that it was really important for Nathan to
Speaker 5: see how important to Jamie he is. But I also
Speaker 5: was like, wow, you you promised the kid you wouldn't tell.
Speaker 5: That's what Gus said, and then as soon as he
Speaker 5: was sleeping.
Speaker 4: You told it's her first day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you betrayed his trust.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then at Haley at the car and roughed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's it's like, it's nice, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for being empathetic, and then Haley just kind
Speaker 1: of like let it all out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know, it stinks to me.
Speaker 6: It's well done.
Speaker 4: Hey, Lindsay didn't give Nanny Carrey any lucky bamboo. It
Speaker 4: was her first day on the job too, saying you're
Speaker 4: gonna die with this. This is the hill you're dying.
Speaker 4: I'm dying on that hill man.
Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
Speaker 6: But I do I really want to know.
Speaker 5: Do you guys think that because we know where the
Speaker 5: Nanny Carey storyline goes, we're pulling at all the threads.
Speaker 6: Now, girl, No.
Speaker 1: I was really trying to watch it from a perspective
Speaker 1: of like just clean curious. I'm a new viewer, I
Speaker 1: have no idea who this person is. Yes, and it's
Speaker 1: still I was like, okay, I get for the sake
Speaker 1: of TV drama, sometimes they will lean into someone being
Speaker 1: a little bit more I don't know what the word is.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say boundary crossing, but just a
Speaker 1: little bit more overt inappropriate.
Speaker 4: Everybody walks in our front doors, like nobody locks their doors,
Speaker 4: nobody closes their doors.
Speaker 1: Exactly, but it's still just it's smacked of something gross
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 4: It just fell like, why did Nathan have his door closed?
Speaker 1: Well, because there's a professional in the house, and a
Speaker 1: professional should just walk out, walk down the hallway, maybe
Speaker 1: even wave if you happen to catch the person's eye,
Speaker 1: and then just like keep going. It's not time to
Speaker 1: stop and have a conversation. When the man that is
Speaker 1: living in the home that you're working in is in
Speaker 1: his bedroom stretching on the floor, that's not the time
Speaker 1: to have a conversation.
Speaker 4: It's weird.
Speaker 5: If anything, it's a oh hey, you need anything, like
Speaker 5: a like a little bit imma.
Speaker 4: Sorry yeah, oops, sorry, didn't.
Speaker 6: Mean to interrupt.
Speaker 5: Can I get you something?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 4: Bye? Yeah? I love the brooken paint her like the abort.
Speaker 6: What were you doing?
Speaker 4: You totally warned her? Yeah. I feel like Haley should
Speaker 4: have asked way more questions of this chick, like so,
Speaker 4: who's your boyfriend? You don't have a boyfriend? Bye? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hailey's always been a you know, rely on her instinct
Speaker 1: and character judgment, and she passes. She passes judgment on
Speaker 1: people pretty quickly. I think she makes quick character decisions
Speaker 1: about people. She did it with Rachel, she did with Nathan,
Speaker 1: even though she turned out to be a little wrong
Speaker 1: about Nathan. But she's very quick to trust her instinct
Speaker 1: on those things. And you're not always gonna be right,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Well, you would think with her her history with someone
Speaker 4: like Rachel, where it was like the hot chick is
Speaker 4: throwing herself at my husband. Yeah, she just thinks that
Speaker 4: Ean so down and out right now, there's just no
Speaker 4: way anyone would be attracted to him. No.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just that she's like, I mean when
Speaker 1: Tory came in that she's Carrie's wearing like sweats and
Speaker 1: her hair's in a ponytail and there's no makeup, and
Speaker 1: it's just really like the whole expression on her face
Speaker 1: is so sweet and innocent and young, and there's nothing
Speaker 1: about her that feels like there's guile or malice or
Speaker 1: any sort of false intent.
Speaker 5: Well, and they played it well because she shows up
Speaker 5: in a moment of heightened stress and desperation for Hailey.
Speaker 5: Everything is bad and Haley and Nathan are fighting and
Speaker 5: then they realize their little boy is not in the backyard,
Speaker 5: and Ian Waltz is this woman with him and says,
Speaker 5: it's okay, I'm a nanny. I'm you know, I know
Speaker 5: how it goes, and it plants the seed in a
Speaker 5: moment where it's like, oh, you just helped us. Oh
Speaker 5: maybe you could say of us, Oh I do need
Speaker 5: help And you say that to her in that scene,
Speaker 5: like who am I kidding? I need help here? And
Speaker 5: I think I don't think if everything had been great,
Speaker 5: you might have just hired some girl off the street
Speaker 5: and your child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the process you would go through where
Speaker 1: you get resumes and you do interviews with multiple people
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just a dire circumstances. I'm teaching my
Speaker 1: husband can't move around. My kid is neglected, not neglected,
Speaker 1: but you know, my kid is not getting the attention
Speaker 1: that he's I want him to have.
Speaker 4: He needs a buddy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My favorite line about your teaching was when Haley comes
Speaker 4: to meet Lucas for lunch and she says she can't
Speaker 4: hang out in the teachers lounge because they're all still
Speaker 4: act like that was mine too.
Speaker 3: God, Yeah, can.
Speaker 4: You imagine that?
Speaker 1: How weird would that be to go back to the
Speaker 1: high school where you taught at and now I mean
Speaker 1: where you went to high school and then now trying
Speaker 1: to teach and then hang out with all the teachers
Speaker 1: like equals.
Speaker 4: That would that would be really hard. I can't I've
Speaker 4: gone back to my high school so many times and
Speaker 4: hung out in the teacher's lounge. And most of my
Speaker 4: teachers are retired now, but when I first started going back,
Speaker 4: obviously they were all still there and they like want
Speaker 4: you to call them by their first name, like my
Speaker 4: teachers all did the opposite. They were like, let's go drinking,
Speaker 4: you know, like and that was so weird for me
Speaker 4: because I was like, no, I I need you to
Speaker 4: be an authority figure, like I need you to be
Speaker 4: someone I could rely on. I've got an I need
Speaker 4: you for comfort. Please hold me. I'm so scared. Stop
Speaker 4: shifting the paradigm. Yeah, teachers are fun, man. You want
Speaker 4: to talk about people who know how to get into
Speaker 4: trouble teachers? Yeah, throw down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta say I loved I loved Hailey being
Speaker 5: in Lucas's office. It just again, it tells a story
Speaker 5: so simply, and then you talking about that, which was
Speaker 5: truly my favorite thing, made me as a viewer yearn
Speaker 5: to see the teacher's lounge.
Speaker 4: Yeah you've never seen it.
Speaker 1: Yes, show us. Do we ever even have? I honestly
Speaker 1: don't remember if we ever even go into the teacher's lounge?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we never did, because it's not a set that
Speaker 5: we build.
Speaker 4: I wish they would have shown it to us. I
Speaker 4: wish they would have shown, like Haley walking in to
Speaker 4: get coffee. I'd be like, good morning, Pearl and have
Speaker 4: Pearl turn around and be like, it's miss Walker. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes me uncomfortable when you call me by
Speaker 5: my first name, Haley. Yes, it would have been so good.
Speaker 5: And you know what, it makes me realize and listen,
Speaker 5: it's part of it. Right, Like, we didn't build a
Speaker 5: teacher's lounge because it's expensive to build sets and where
Speaker 5: would we have put it. But when you get to
Speaker 5: see outside of the world, Like there's that moment when
Speaker 5: Lucas and Skills see the boys practicing their free throws
Speaker 5: and they're so happy that it's happening, that they're coaching
Speaker 5: is working, and there's one shot over their shoulders that
Speaker 5: doesn't go into the gym or into the hall you
Speaker 5: know the back wall of the hallway. It looks down
Speaker 5: the hallway, and that's at the actual school because we
Speaker 5: were in the actual gym and you see this huge
Speaker 5: hallway that leads up to the gymnasium and it was
Speaker 5: just like five seconds on camera. But seeing something else
Speaker 5: made me feel really grounded on a campus because it
Speaker 5: wasn't just the same two hallways in the same classroom
Speaker 5: in Whitey's office. It was it was a bigger universe.
Speaker 5: That's my soapbox about wanting a teacher's lounge.
Speaker 4: Good job coach, you two coach. Oh, I love those
Speaker 4: boys together.
Speaker 5: It was so sweet.
Speaker 4: How do we feel about Dan being in prison? Yeah, guys,
Speaker 4: the least secure prison in the history of prisons in
Speaker 4: the history of prisons. You go out in the yard
Speaker 4: gate it had a chain like Fance with one little.
Speaker 5: Big a barbed wire that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Where did we film that?
Speaker 5: Probably at a school. It was probably the like the
Speaker 5: yard at a school and they would just take some
Speaker 5: barbed wire and put it on the fence real quick.
Speaker 4: It was hilarious that they allowed Nathan to come in
Speaker 4: on crutches, like we not like crutches, right, No, loved
Speaker 4: it or a spontaneous drop by.
Speaker 5: Yeah, popping by, unscheduled visit.
Speaker 1: I it did feel great to see Dan behind bars.
Speaker 1: I have to sit down behind bars, but you know,
Speaker 1: locked in. It felt great to see him in prison.
Speaker 1: It felt like very fitting is a good place to
Speaker 1: start for him. Paul looks great too, He's like fit
Speaker 1: and healthy and.
Speaker 4: It's the best he's ever looked. I know, I know,
Speaker 4: he looks.
Speaker 1: Like he's running plenty of business in prison, Like he's
Speaker 1: doing just fine.
Speaker 4: He's selling cell phones, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: he's got a he's got a job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was nice to see. It was nice
Speaker 1: to see Nathan finally going to see him having a
Speaker 1: conversation with him that it's have been really hard for
Speaker 1: him for four years to just cut his dad off
Speaker 1: after all that time of the back and forth that
Speaker 1: we just watched for the first four years of will
Speaker 1: a or won't they? Is is he going to stick around?
Speaker 1: Is he going to trust his dad? Is he trustworthy?
Speaker 1: And he keeps giving him chances and he keeps getting
Speaker 1: screwed over, and it was a lot of up and down,
Speaker 1: and so it was interesting. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting to see him go talk to go talk to
Speaker 1: Dan and say it's closure.
Speaker 4: But it didn't. It didn't feel like. It felt like
Speaker 4: it was an opening of a door rather.
Speaker 5: Than especially because he leaves the picture of Jamie. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but part of me, it's interesting that you say that.
Speaker 5: When that happened, I was like, did Nanny carry do
Speaker 5: that because she drove him to the prison.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: But it did make me feel suspicious and I thought,
Speaker 5: is Nathan just doing something kind for Dan? Or is
Speaker 5: it not Nathan doing that?
Speaker 4: That's weird, that's interesting. Our characters are very young, they're
Speaker 4: in their early twenties, so they do immature stuff. But
Speaker 4: the immaturity of I'm gonna come to see you just
Speaker 4: to tell you I'm never going to see you again
Speaker 4: kind of I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, really far out of the way, especially when you're
Speaker 1: not walking.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how it tracked for me was because
Speaker 5: Nathan had the wake up call to how much Jamie
Speaker 5: loves him and still sees him as this hero. I
Speaker 5: took it more as he really wants to break the
Speaker 5: cycle of fatherhood that he knows, because he says to Dan,
Speaker 5: I've carried you with me every day.
Speaker 6: For the last four years.
Speaker 5: You made me this way, and I'm done. I'm leaving
Speaker 5: it behind him, not going to carry you anymore. And
Speaker 5: to me, it felt like he needed to go and
Speaker 5: say I'm not going to be the kind of dad
Speaker 5: that turned me into this guy. I'm gonna go learn.
Speaker 6: To be a new guy, a new dad.
Speaker 5: And then he says to Hailey, this is the beginning
Speaker 5: of the way it's going to be from now on.
Speaker 4: Baby. We got a talk about that part. Oh, the
Speaker 4: no beard, long hair. I know, I want to talk
Speaker 4: about feeling.
Speaker 6: You were going to talk about romance.
Speaker 4: Okay, he looks like someone and I cannot put my
Speaker 4: finger on it with the long hair, no beard, and
Speaker 4: it's killing me.
Speaker 5: He reminds me of Taylor Kitch on Friday Night Lights
Speaker 5: with his shaggy hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 5: It's like that same kind of energy.
Speaker 4: It's slightly disproportionate.
Speaker 1: It's like that either we need the beard and the hair,
Speaker 1: or we need to shorten the hair just a little.
Speaker 4: Even it could still be.
Speaker 1: Shaggy and messy, but I needed like a little closer
Speaker 1: to the Yeah, why didn't you.
Speaker 4: Pull it into a ponytail or something cute? Top not Hillary?
Speaker 6: You know ponytails aren't allowed on one tree hill.
Speaker 4: That's right, Jojo could have been out there with her
Speaker 4: flat eye. Ron just fit cute. Joy, What do you
Speaker 4: remember about shooting that stuff? Because you guys had to
Speaker 4: have like these blow ups, you know, and your storyline
Speaker 4: is signal defficantly more adult than all the rest of ours,
Speaker 4: And so were you into it? Yeah, I think I was.
Speaker 1: I think I was because I was in a very
Speaker 1: serious place in my life personally where I was struggling
Speaker 1: a lot, So it was I think it just kind
Speaker 1: of fit. It was an easy fit for me to
Speaker 1: All those emotions were right at the top of the
Speaker 1: surface for me, so it was easy, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was nice to do something different
Speaker 1: than just being in love all the time, which is
Speaker 1: really what Nathan and Haley had done. You know, it
Speaker 1: was like this the young high school drama and stress
Speaker 1: of it was more playful stress and stress that we
Speaker 1: kind of knew it was always going to work out.
Speaker 4: Find it poorn on his computer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, feeling separated and wanting to be close to
Speaker 1: each other. But yeah, it kind of hit close to
Speaker 1: home for me on that one. So I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt good to go to work. And James was
Speaker 1: always such a great partner, such a great scene partner
Speaker 1: and fun to banter with. And then you throw Jackson
Speaker 1: in the mix, and so it was like we were
Speaker 1: having these jovial days on set when the cameras were off,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as they started rolling we all
Speaker 1: had to be very serious.
Speaker 4: It was fun. I mean, James when he's talking to
Speaker 4: Jamie and is like finally, like you're trying to shoot
Speaker 4: some of these hoops watching Jackson, like try not to
Speaker 4: get excited, but like being so god, you're excited. It
Speaker 4: was pretty cute. Man. They sweet, so sweet, but play
Speaker 4: basketball by the pool. Guys, don't do that with your kids. No,
Speaker 4: it's so dumb.
Speaker 5: I know that did give me a little bit of anxiety,
Speaker 5: but I liked again, David Jackson, great choice. I liked
Speaker 5: that he had Jamie and Nathan down on the patio
Speaker 5: level and he kept Haley up at the door because
Speaker 5: we got to watch you watch your family.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all gonna be okay. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It really clarified that there was this tableau happening and
Speaker 5: that she needed to take it in in the same
Speaker 5: way we as an audience. We're taking it in. And
Speaker 5: it was really it was just such a simple choice
Speaker 5: of staging, but it communicated a lot. I really really
Speaker 5: liked that.
Speaker 4: Do you think Haley buys it? Like, do you think
Speaker 4: Haley is like, Okay, everything's better now, or do you
Speaker 4: think she's going to be a slow burn? I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she buys it immediately. I think
Speaker 1: she really appreciates it in senses that he's sincere. But
Speaker 1: that's kind of a thing about Nathan too, is that
Speaker 1: he doesn't He's not the kind of person that says
Speaker 1: he's going to do something and then doesn't do it.
Speaker 1: So I think she senses the authenticity of what he's
Speaker 1: saying and and is looking forward to that process. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you also are. Probably she's probably shell shocked
Speaker 1: a little. Once you go through something like that. It's
Speaker 1: really hard when you see somebody continually go through a
Speaker 1: pattern of not believing in themselves and struggle and struggle
Speaker 1: and just not being able to get the strength to
Speaker 1: move forward and step out and do something new. I'm
Speaker 1: sure she felt a little nervous that it wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: really last. But it's the biggest stride he's made in
Speaker 1: like a year.
Speaker 4: Well for sure. I mean, the audience gets to see
Speaker 4: him visit Dan, the audience gets to know like, oh,
Speaker 4: he did a big thing today, and heally just comes
Speaker 4: home and there's like a cast a role she doesn't know,
Speaker 4: like the bigness of the day. But I don't know,
Speaker 4: I feel.
Speaker 1: I felt it. And maybe it's subconsciously because I saw him.
Speaker 1: We saw him go to prison, and we saw himjump
Speaker 1: out of the pool in the last episode of his
Speaker 1: arms up like Rocky, And you know, maybe, but I
Speaker 1: think I think it's real when you live with the
Speaker 1: subtleties of someone who is struggling every day and you
Speaker 1: get used to that when you see them cleaned up
Speaker 1: and feeling good and in a good place.
Speaker 4: It means a lot. You recognize it. I can't wait
Speaker 4: to see the Nathan recovery. What do we think our
Speaker 4: honorable mention is for this episode?
Speaker 5: I mean, other than Paul's goatee.
Speaker 4: Or Haley's juicy tube lip glass. I was gonna say
Speaker 4: Haley's dining room because there Gus was like, that dining
Speaker 4: room is bullsh There's no toys, Like, there's no way
Speaker 4: that child sat there waiting for his mother to come home.
Speaker 4: And there's not like legos or just yeah everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's funny. The cleanest dining room in tree Hill. Yeah,
Speaker 4: good for whoever cleaned that up. Maybe that's Nanny Carey.
Speaker 4: Maybe she is magical, m M.
Speaker 5: Magical and just a little bit nuts. And I have
Speaker 5: one more honorable mention, and it's when Haley gives Quentin
Speaker 5: the full download on the River Court. I cannot tell
Speaker 5: you how happy I felt that you rattled off a
Speaker 5: bunch of education statistics to him.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is it.
Speaker 5: You use mass and truth about society to illustrate points
Speaker 5: to people to make them more invested in themselves and
Speaker 5: in the world around them.
Speaker 4: I feel so validated right now. It was so.
Speaker 5: It just guys, it made me really happy. Then thanks
Speaker 5: for loving me because she like that makes me happy.
Speaker 4: And then he just turns it into crouch I know, yep.
Speaker 4: Seeing him laugh in the first couple episodes was like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's like a good looking kid, you know what a
Speaker 4: what a charmer And now it just feels really sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so in so much insecurity and posturing.
Speaker 5: And you can see it. Robbie does such a good job.
Speaker 5: You can see that what Hailey says gets to Quentin
Speaker 5: and then he just covers it.
Speaker 6: He just masks it.
Speaker 5: And does the thing he knows how to do best.
Speaker 5: And it's a really it's a really subtle performance but
Speaker 5: so good. I loved it.
Speaker 6: We spin a wheel, I.
Speaker 3: Want to spam.
Speaker 4: What do we got all right? This week? We have
Speaker 4: most likely too oh well, duh da da huge da.
Speaker 5: Most likely to have the best music playlist Peyton's Air
Speaker 5: Peter Obviously.
Speaker 4: Obviously, my son has never really thought I was cool,
Speaker 4: but he thought that was cool tonight watching this episode,
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to force feed him all of
Speaker 4: my six seasons of the show just to enforce it.
Speaker 4: But who know who in real life has the best list.
Speaker 4: Still you, I don't know, I wouldn't. I don't know
Speaker 4: about that. I'm trying to think. I just feel like you.
Speaker 1: I mean, you made your your The first part of
Speaker 1: your career was on music and you were interviewing I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess musicians and actors and whoever. But like you
Speaker 1: still had so you were at MTV. You had so
Speaker 1: much invested in history and music and have.
Speaker 4: Great music on TRL all the time. By the way,
Speaker 4: fair enough, fair enough, there are some real stinkers. I
Speaker 4: will say that, like Daniel's down in Austin were that
Speaker 4: music scene. I'm envious of that music scene. I would
Speaker 4: like to be around that. She always has good bands.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a loss.
Speaker 4: Who's in a band from our cast? Well, like Tyler
Speaker 4: duh Tyler?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Tyler probably has the best playlist.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Eiler and Kate Bogel like the people who
Speaker 4: actually hang out with musicians, hanging out with soccer moms man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see what happens to the
Speaker 1: next one. This was a nice lead into what the
Speaker 1: next adventures are going to be for all of our
Speaker 1: five favorite characters.
Speaker 5: Next week, Season five, Episode four, it's all right, Mom,
Speaker 5: I'm only bleeding great, Laurie, I think you should take
Speaker 5: a bite of missus Davis again.
Speaker 4: I died, Hi, missus Davis.
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