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Speaker 1: as well. Hawks at the Bucks game one coming up tonight.

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Speaker 1: Suns beat the Clippers last night to go up two

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Speaker 1: games to none. We've been down this road before with

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. Can they do it again? How many times

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Speaker 1: can you keep going back to that, Well, hey, we

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Speaker 1: lose the first two games. Well, you're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard anytime soon. This feels like a little bit

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Speaker 1: different O two hole for them. Eight seven seven three

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Speaker 1: D P Show Email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com,

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle a TP show. The Clippers raised two O

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Speaker 1: deficits in the first two rounds of the playoffs. But

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Speaker 1: this certainly is different. Playing without Kawai. You're you have

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. They didn't play well. Devin Booker didn't

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Speaker 1: play well. You don't have Chris Paul. Now, granted you

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Speaker 1: don't have Kawai but you got to steal one of

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Speaker 1: these games. And it came down to those who didn't,

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Speaker 1: and those who didn't came down to Paul George not

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Speaker 1: making a couple of free throws with seven seconds to go.

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Speaker 1: He missed five of ten free throws. The rest of

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Speaker 1: the team missed one one of eight from three point range.

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Speaker 1: As as Oftener, as much as we want to praise

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Speaker 1: is one of those where you have to be critical

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Speaker 1: of Paul George. This is your team, this is your stage.

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Speaker 1: They need you. You have to be big, you have

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Speaker 1: to hit those shots. You gotta be clutch. You can't

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Speaker 1: rely on Kawai to bail you out. And last night

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Speaker 1: you had a chance to steal that. Give credit to

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns because Monny Williams called a great play

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Speaker 1: nine tenths of a second to go and nine tenths

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Speaker 1: of a second to go, and Devin Booker was the decoy.

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Speaker 1: He set the pick that allowed DeAndre Ayton to score

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Speaker 1: the game winner at the buzzer. He didn't even know

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Speaker 1: if he had committed offensive goldtending. He didn't know what

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Speaker 1: the rule was. But you have Boogie Cousins, who jumps

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Speaker 1: he doesn't really jump or can't jump that high. They

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Speaker 1: throw it up. It's a beautifully die. It's a beautifully

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Speaker 1: diagram play. Really was. I just want to know what

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Speaker 1: were the Clippers thinking the Sons were going to call.

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Speaker 1: That's what I kept thinking. Okay, nine tenths of a second,

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Speaker 1: can Booker get a catch and shoot off balance deep? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably so. But DeAndre Ayton, with a pick set for him,

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Speaker 1: went up Jake Crowder a perfect lob pass here and

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Speaker 1: here's DeAndre eight and describing what happened at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game. Once I set that first screen of camp,

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, I try to set up Zoo

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Speaker 1: black to, you know, for book to have a good

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Speaker 1: angle with him. And I believe once my feet touched

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Speaker 1: not many people are going to be up there with me.

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Speaker 1: So that's why that's where I got confident at once

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Speaker 1: I really got that gay there. Nobody bumped me or

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Speaker 1: you know it was up man, You know that was it?

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Speaker 1: I love it. Not many people are going to be

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Speaker 1: up there where I am, but it was a beautifully

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Speaker 1: placed pass there and that's your difference. One oh four,

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Speaker 1: poll question today. Okay, we're work shopping the still, but

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Speaker 1: I have a bet for these Suns Clipper series. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you. If the Suns win, you get one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. If the Clippers come back and win the series,

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Speaker 1: you have to lose a pinky, which is Paul's favorite

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Speaker 1: ways always. Okay, how confident are you that the Suns

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Speaker 1: have this wrapped up? I guess to be specific? Which pinky?

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Speaker 1: Can you pick? Which pinky? You know? If you're right handed,

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Speaker 1: do you want to lose your pinky finger? Yeah, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: There was also a discussion in you in a tax

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Speaker 1: free state like which you know a state tax free state?

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Speaker 1: Is one hundred thousand enough for a pinky? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you have great odds. You're up to nothing and

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul's coming back. I think a millions too much. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what other poll questions do you have? Okay, uh, we

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Speaker 1: get into this topic. Should the MLB continue checking pictures

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Speaker 1: the way they're doing? Now? All right, I'll get to

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Speaker 1: that topic in a little bit here. What else what's

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Speaker 1: better TV? The NBA Draft lottery or the NFL schedule release,

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Speaker 1: In other words, shows about nothing that was unintentionally funny

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Speaker 1: last night. Because there are people who really don't have

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Speaker 1: one year, Kim Ali Juan was there for the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: Elgin Baylor was always there for the Clippers. But for

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Speaker 1: the most part, you're just going, all right, it's a

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Speaker 1: kind of a placeholder. There, a seat filler, Hey, would

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Speaker 1: you show up at the lottery and sit there and

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Speaker 1: act enthusiastic? Hey, when they announced that we have the

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Speaker 1: some people who were going, uh, is this a good thing?

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Speaker 1: Am I supposed to react? Here? Did we get what

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Speaker 1: then they realize they're on camera and then they go okay, yay, Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Another poll question? Is the NBA Draft still relevant? I

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Speaker 1: if you're Kate Cunningham, you played at Oklahoma State. Now

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play at Houston. You're in a state no

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Speaker 1: LaMelo ball, he went overseas, he played in Australia and

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Speaker 1: the most followers social media wise of the potential lottery picks. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey does on Instagram. Yeah, on my club, they're

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Speaker 1: high school guys right who have gigantic following. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean the biggest point. Does Bronnie count or is that

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Speaker 1: a different that's different? Yeah, like he inherited his father's following.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Seton had a great You don't

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Speaker 1: need to go to college you get your profile up anymore. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't, and we think that you have to. Zion

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Speaker 1: could have. His profile was huge when he was in

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Speaker 1: high school. It's because social media, if it's Instagram or TikTok,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what they're capitalizing on. And you know

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Speaker 1: to be they're going to be using those those social

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Speaker 1: media platforms to be able to make a lot of money. Yeah, McLeman.

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Speaker 1: One disappointment I had last night that I have no

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Speaker 1: it was a trade, but that was a one team

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Speaker 1: I saw last night that I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: they could be exciting. Are they building something? They have

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Speaker 1: seven and fourteen James Wiseman. Curry, you're kind of bullish

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Speaker 1: could compete for the title this year. Can they rebuild

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Speaker 1: to be the development of Wiseman? You know, they had

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Speaker 1: you're pre meditating a lot of times that you're going

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Speaker 1: to shoot. You're anticipating being open. He doesn't do any

425
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Speaker 1: of those things because he has a fear of failure.

426
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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, They've got to get to the bottom

427
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Speaker 1: of that before the mechanics can be addressed. Always great

428
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Speaker 1: to talk to your legs. Thanks for making time. Thanks.

429
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: That's Tim Legler, espn NBA analyst. Yeah, that mental hurdle

430
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: and what do you do? And look, Daryl Morey is

431
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Speaker 1: the seventy six ers, Tim, He's saying all the right

432
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Speaker 1: things that, Hey, there are a lot of teams that

433
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Speaker 1: are envious of the talent we have and would love

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Speaker 1: to be in the same position as us. Okay, are

435
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Speaker 1: you going to continue to maintain that position? Are you

436
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Speaker 1: can continue to have Ben Simmons as your point guard?

437
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: I think that's really the key issue. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It almost feels like Joe lmbid. His body language is

439
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: telling you I don't have confidence in this guy, and

440
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: basically I don't want him out there in the fourth quarter.

441
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: But Ben doesn't have confidence in Ben being out there

442
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And that's really hard to try

443
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Speaker 1: to quantify and go, Okay, hey, if we just do this,

444
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Speaker 1: it'll get better. I truly believe if you put Ben

445
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Speaker 1: Simmons on another team where the expectation levels aren't that high.

446
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Speaker 1: Now this is about winning a championship. You bring in

447
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Speaker 1: doc Rivers and Bade gives you an MVP season, You're

448
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: spending money on Tobias Harris. You're like, you're you're ready

449
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Speaker 1: to go, and he's holding you back. And I think

450
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Speaker 1: if he went to a place like Houston, let's say,

451
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Speaker 1: where he had an opportunity to have a team and

452
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Speaker 1: not have to defer and worry about Joe lmbid, I

453
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Speaker 1: think that he would benefit from that. I do think

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Speaker 1: he needs a couple of games performances where he has

455
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Speaker 1: that positivity there that he can sort of lean on

456
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Speaker 1: when he gets to the next game. If not, I

457
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Speaker 1: just think this continues. I think the Philly fans they're

458
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Speaker 1: they're going to be less than patient now in the

459
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: media in Philadelphia the same way, and I think it's

460
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Speaker 1: only going to get worse. You can, you can fix

461
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: his form, but you've got to fix him mentally, and

462
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: that's really hard to find somebody who goes There's a

463
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Speaker 1: lot of shooting coaches out there, wonderful shooting coaches, but

464
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Speaker 1: this is different. This is more than just hey, we

465
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Speaker 1: fixed his form. Yeah. MC club feels like we're scapegoating

466
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Speaker 1: him a little bit because, I mean, Joe Ellen beats

467
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Speaker 1: fitness is a massive problem. Like even the coaches like

468
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Speaker 1: I can't get him to play well in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter because his gas. Yeah, and it's the same problem.

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Speaker 1: Like and also Tobias Harris, you can never get rid

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Speaker 1: of him because of his money. Yeah, there's like so

472
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Speaker 1: it Simmons feels like he's taking all the arrows here,

473
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Speaker 1: but there's obviously other problems. Yeah, Doc Rivers too, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely this is what happens. We single out one moment,

475
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Speaker 1: one person, and then that's the focus of well, this

476
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Speaker 1: is their problem. Doc Rivers has not coached well in

477
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Speaker 1: big games, but in bad played through. He's gonna need

478
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Speaker 1: knee surgery here. Now he's not in shape. He has

479
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Speaker 1: to get in shape, better shape. Tobias Harris has to

480
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Speaker 1: decide do you want to be a big time player.

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Speaker 1: You're getting paid like a big time player. Are you

482
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Speaker 1: a big time player? Like Seth Curry shouldn't be your

483
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Speaker 1: second best player. Given credit, he's made himself into a

484
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: very very good player. That's the guy that you get

485
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Speaker 1: as your fourth best player. And then when you have

486
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Speaker 1: that man that makes you so dangerous here. Yeah, Paul,

487
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: you brought up Ben Simmons yesterday. It was a really

488
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Speaker 1: good point you had about that game against um Utah,

489
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Speaker 1: and maybe that's a thing where he played that game

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Speaker 1: against Utah where it was obviously on him. Utah's a

491
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Speaker 1: tough team, they're on the road. He had forty two points,

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Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen from the line, fifteen and twenty six

493
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Speaker 1: in the field. He had no choice but to be

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Speaker 1: the man like he had. He couldn't even he had

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Speaker 1: no choice. The deferring was not a possibility, and it

496
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Speaker 1: made it better. Obviously that game is not I wouldn't

497
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Speaker 1: say it's a fluke, but it's it's it proves that

498
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Speaker 1: it can happen. Yeah, I'm glod. Yeah. He loves to

499
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Speaker 1: shoot when the clock is running down because you know,

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Speaker 1: like twenty four second clock. Yeah, then he fires off

501
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Speaker 1: threes because it's in his head like he said, I

502
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Speaker 1: gotta shoot and he's pretty good. But well then it

503
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Speaker 1: feels like, hey, I had to get that shot up

504
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Speaker 1: if it doesn't go in. I know this mindset. So

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Speaker 1: he's thinking, you know, twenty one twenty two on the

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Speaker 1: shot clock, or it's winding down to two seconds, three seconds,

507
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Speaker 1: Hey I got that up. I didn't go in, but

508
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Speaker 1: I had to get that shot off. Therefore, it takes

509
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the pressure. If he takes that

510
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Speaker 1: jumper with sixteen seconds left, then you're gonna get why'd

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Speaker 1: you take it at sixteen seconds? Couldn't we have gotten

512
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Speaker 1: a better shot there? This allows him to do it,

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Speaker 1: but also not you know, face that same kind of

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00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: blame or pressure or being singled down. Yeah, mclub. If

515
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Speaker 1: he was like the number twenty pick in the draft

516
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Speaker 1: or something like it, he was that, it's hard. What

517
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: don't we view him? Oh, what a great role player

518
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Speaker 1: he is. It's like a matter of expectations to some degree. Yeah, yeah,

519
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: like Reggie Bush, Like like Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler was

520
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round a pleasant surprise.

521
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Speaker 1: You know. Kawhi couldn't shoot, but boy he could play defense.

522
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Jannis Man, he's got he's got potential, but they gotten better.

523
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Ben was the opposite. It's like, here's the expectation level.

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Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham at Oklahoma State's going to face this. You're

525
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: the number one pick probably with Detroit. Come on in,

526
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: let's see what you got now. The expectation level is

527
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: that's not a good team. We're not going to expect

528
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: the team to be that good. Anthony Edwards with Minnesota,

529
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: all right, you went there, nobody cared about Minnesota. You know,

530
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: you win a handful of games. No pressure there. But

531
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Speaker 1: you know when you're in that position of hey, they

532
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: took me twenty first, Devin Booker had no pressure. He

533
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: was just like coming in. You know, I got four

534
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: other Kentucky guys who went before me. Unknown, got a

535
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: nice shot, all right, he average ten points is one

536
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: year at Kentucky and then all of a sudden, you

537
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: get confident, you get playing time, and then after that.

538
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: I look at the confidence of Devin Booker and look

539
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: at the confidence or lack thereof with Ben Simmons. Ben's

540
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: probably got more all around talent and he's the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick. He has no confidence. Confidence makes you

542
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: a bad mother on the floor. Man. There are guys

543
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: that had confidence and you go, how does he have

544
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: that much confidence? But they do and it makes you

545
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: a better player. Ben needs to have He needs to

546
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: tap into something that says I'm good, I'm great, I

547
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: can take over this game. Lonzo Ball, We've seen that.

548
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: I love Lonzo Ball's game. LaMelo is the one who

549
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: has the confidence, not Lonzo LaMelo is not afraid of

550
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: a moment. Lonzo is yeah, Bluey. There's an article I'll

551
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons when he was still in high school and

552
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: the title of the headline is imagine if Magic Johnson

553
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: were a bigger, stronger, and more athletic. That's Ben Simmons.

554
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: That was from ESPN dot com. I mean this is

555
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: he came in with tons of expectations. Paul George has

556
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: shot two free throws at at the you know, in

557
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: the same possession two hundred and si seven times in

558
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: his playoff career. He's missed both shots ten times. Six

559
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: of the ten came in the fourth quarter. Stat of

560
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: the day, Sat of the day, that last stat of

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Speaker 1: the day, stat of the day he comes that what

562
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: stat of the day. When you have a finish like

563
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: that last night, sometimes things get overshadowed the story of campaign.

564
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Cameron Payne is like that. He was wonderful last night.

565
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah twenty nine and he's played well and you're probably going,

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Speaker 1: who yeah, Cameron Payne. He had a Murray State Yeah,

567
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: your Racers. Yeah. But to have those moments without Chris

568
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Paul in there, and to get those moments to get

569
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Speaker 1: playoff time now he's fourteenth pick in the draft. He

570
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: was considered underside. Like he came in, it's like, all right,

571
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: you got pick fourteenth, no expectations whatsoever. But he played

572
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: extremely well last night. The Sons had won nine straight

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00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: postseason games. That's the longest streak in franchise history. That's

574
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: the longest in the NBA since the Warriors won fifteen

575
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: in a row back in the twenty seventeen playoffs. Why

576
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: not back to back? The day stad of good day?

577
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Dude comes that? What sad day? Yes, Paul, I know

578
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: you know this bother of me, but you're you. You

579
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Speaker 1: have your last name is pain and you name your

580
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: son Cam. Yeah, I know it's Cameron Payne. But it's

581
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: easily you could shorten into campaign. He's a fantastic player.

582
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a great kid. I kind of like it.

583
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: You like campaign? Yeah, so bend over is okay if

584
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: you're kids, that is non No bend over that's that's

585
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: embarrassing over. But campaign that's okay. Yeah, all right, so

586
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: it's positive like there's a campaign for campaign, all right, yeah,

587
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: but bend over no, no, that's not a good one. Yeah. See,

588
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: if you're a fan, of his you would be pro pain.

589
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: That was there is a little brothers pro brother pro

590
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: pain you got one time? I figured your that's a gas.

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: That was great. His uncle is named lower back paint Long.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Paul. That was a Fritzie. Yeah, I'm

593
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to he didn't have anything. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to blow the whistle. And yet, Yes, Todd, you're thinking

595
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: of to go into politics unless you have like an

596
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: MVP campaign. That's that's someone that's got to be like

597
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: a senator or a congressman. If your campaign, Yeah, that's

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00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: all I got right now? Uh, do you want to

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00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: do your limerick here? So I'd like, okay, let's take

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Speaker 1: a break here because I always like HiPE it up. Yes, yeah,

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00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: how about you do it during the break, But nobody's

602
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: let's kind in my limerick. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: mclove and give me the results so far. Second Hour.

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Speaker 1: Whose athletic career and future would you want? Devin Booker

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Speaker 1: or John Rom The question everyone's asking Devin book Are

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Speaker 1: fifty three percent, Rom forty seven percent. It was really

624
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Speaker 1: a question about you want a brief NBA career or

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00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: a long term golf career. I can't believe you guys

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Speaker 1: have want golf. You're the golfer. I like golf, But

627
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Speaker 1: if you said I could be a star at golf

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Speaker 1: or a star in the NBA. I mean I could

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Speaker 1: be a shoot her in the NBA. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker is too good because I think he's like

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Speaker 1: he's got everything. Like if you said I is PJ.

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Speaker 1: Tucker or John Rom, then I might go John Rom. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I needed to give you a role player. Mike Conley,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez joins us on behalf of a Sleep Number,

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00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: the leader in sleep health as we know. Of course,

636
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: my sleep number setting is it's jumped up to one hundred.

637
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: By the way, a month long program with NFL Legends,

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00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: a Sleep thirty Challenge. He'll talk about that coming up

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00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: here in a moment. Mark, Good to talk to you again.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite Pete Carroll's story, Dan Pee, how are

641
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: we doing? Man good? Let's see well before Pete Carroll

642
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: six two and a little change, probably two thirty five.

643
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Don't judge me, Wow, Wow, don't judge me. Okay, I'm

644
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: getting older, I'm getting a lot of sleep. I'm not

645
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: quite as active, oh man, Pete Carroll. I think there's

646
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 1: two really good ones. One was in the Rose Bowl.

647
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: The other one was the night before or that press conference,

648
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: that infamous press conference that made it look like him

649
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: and I hated each other, which wasn't the case. Little

650
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: did people know. The night before that press conference, We're

651
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: in my apartment on Ellendale next to USC's campus. Oh,

652
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: let's see shoe apartment three thirteen, baby, and we were

653
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: eating in and out Burgers till like two to three

654
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: in the morning, just talking about everything. And he knew

655
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: that I had pretty much decided to leave, and he

656
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: was still recruiting like hell to keep me there. And

657
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: so that that was a night where I didn't get

658
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: my full night's rest and sleep. Number wouldn't be thrilled

659
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: about that, okay, But then you had the press conference.

660
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: So why did that happen if you guys had already

661
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: talked this out the night before. So I think here's

662
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: now that I can, you know, look back in hindsight

663
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: and retrospect and all that. He didn't say anything like

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Speaker 1: I don't like him, I don't think he's a good player.

665
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, we're not happy for him, we don't want

666
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: him to do well. He never said anything like that.

667
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: But as far as those meeting or press conferences have

668
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: gone to that point, it was always you know, Johnny's

669
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: leaving for the NFL, well man, whatever, NFL team gets Johnny.

670
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Good for them. He's awesome. We love him and we

671
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: wish him the best. Now, Pete eventually said nice things

672
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: like that, but the first thing he said was, and

673
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: he said it the night before, I don't agree with

674
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: the decision, okay, which is fine. He can have his

675
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: own opinion. And we said that to each other the

676
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: night before. I said, coach, no hard feelings, I get it.

677
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: I just this is where I'm at. Here's what I

678
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 1: want to do. Cool, and he's like, well, you gotta

679
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: look at the statistics. You know, rookie quarterbacks blah blah blah,

680
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: when they come out early, and he did all his research.

681
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: Credit to him, he knew exactly what he was talking about.

682
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: So he gave an opinion on my decision and then

683
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: backed it up with a bunch of nice fluffy stuff,

684
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: which is fine, but everybody focused on that opinion. And

685
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: because he gave that those data points saying, you know,

686
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks who leave early, they don't do this, they

687
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: don't do that, blah blah blah. Well that was that

688
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: was all fine too, but nobody was used to hearing that,

689
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: so once they heard it, they're like, oh, dude, he

690
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: hates them. Oh, these guys don't like each other. What

691
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: a jerk, you know. And it wasn't really like that,

692
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: it was just, hey, this is his opinion, here's why

693
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: he thinks that, and it's all good. Do you think

694
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: you could have been more successful or more sustainable career

695
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: if you'd had lower expectations You were going to a

696
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: team that was playoff ready, championship ready, whereas Zach Wilson

697
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: is going to a Jets team that we don't have

698
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: great expectations. So put yourself in that position with Zach

699
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: and how how beneficial can that be to his development?

700
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Or maybe even detrimental? You know, I think there's there's

701
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: two ways to go on this, right, you nailed it.

702
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I went into a team that picked that was picking

703
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen over all, which means your middle of

704
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: the pack. They just missed the playoffs with Brett Farve

705
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: and you know one bicep tendon, Like this guy was

706
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: hanging on for dear life. I just golf with him

707
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago and he told

708
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of those stories, which were incredible, by the way.

709
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: But so that's where that team was. They had great

710
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: veteran leadership. We needed a couple receivers. We ended up

711
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: getting Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, and they had a tight end.

712
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: They had a running back. We drafted a running back

713
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Speaker 1: in Sean Green. So this is a team that was

714
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: built to win immediately, and we were so good on defense.

715
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: They won in spite of me multiple times my rookie year, Like,

716
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: I have no shame in admitting that I threw five

717
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: picks against Buffalo and we took the game to overtime

718
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: and we rushed for like two hundred something yards, Like

719
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, right, So I went to a place

720
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: where they expected to win immediately. Now I loved it,

721
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: but it also set the bar really high. There was

722
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: only one way to go when you get to the

723
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game your first two years. There's only one

724
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: way to go, really two ways, but one's a lot

725
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: easier straight down, right. So either you go to the

726
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and compete in the Super Bowl and win

727
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: or lose whatever, or you don't make that game and

728
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: now you're not as good. And you know this New

729
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: York media, it's very sensationalize. It's best or worse. A

730
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: very superlative. So that's just kind of the way it went. Now,

731
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: if you go in to that market maybe with less expectations, sure,

732
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: that's fine. I understand that argument. Let the guys sit,

733
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: let them learn, let them, you know, have a solid

734
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: veteran ahead of them and kind of groom them. The

735
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes Alex Smith idea great, But you don't have

736
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: that time in New York. Right. All these guys that

737
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: they have there, it's like it's like the Little League

738
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: team that stays together for like five years, right, and

739
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: then by the time they hit high school, they don't

740
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: even have to give like pickoff signs anymore. They just

741
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: know by body language, like boom, we know what to do.

742
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: I know when it's you know, when we're thinking about bunting.

743
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: I know when to drag bunt. I know when to steal.

744
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I know all this stuff because we done it for

745
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: so long. Do you think the New York media is

746
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: going to give him that kind of time. I mean,

747
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: they have a lot of young guys, and I hope

748
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: they do. I hope they keep expectations realistic. But I mean,

749
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: that's just a tall task there. So, you know, the

750
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: most important thing for them is just little victories along

751
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: the way, block out the media as best you can,

752
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: let that thing marinate, and I think I think if

753
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: anybody's got a shot to do it, it's Zach Wilson.

754
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I really like him. I liked him coming out in

755
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: the draft process. It's got a couple things to clean up.

756
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: I would think in the pocket just every once in

757
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: a while there's a routine play that I'd like him

758
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: to just keep it routine right. I don't need, you know,

759
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the Sports Center highlight every single drop back, right, but

760
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: when it's time, you know when to flip that switch

761
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: and be Zach Wilson and show us that amazing play.

762
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: When it's fourth down, when do you got to scramble

763
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: when it you know the game's on the line. But

764
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: when it's just a wide open, you know, easy grounder

765
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: to second bay, just throw the guy out at first.

766
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: And I think his quarterback coach, Greg Knapp is going

767
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: to really really help with that because he's been with

768
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: some of the best in the league with Peyton Manning,

769
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: some of the best technicians that know how to keep

770
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: the game simple when it's supposed to be simple, and

771
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: then when it's time to like I said, when it's

772
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: time to, you know, to go off and do something

773
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: special and show me who Zach Wilson is. You'll know

774
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: exactly when that is and you'll flip the switch and

775
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: do it. He's Mark Sanchez, the former NFL quarterback. How

776
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: do you explain Tom Brady? Then? Brady told me many

777
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: many years ago, if he had been drafted in the

778
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: first round, he probably wouldn't have made it. So he's

779
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time who might not have

780
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: made it now that and he might be being humble,

781
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: but I think he said I wasn't ready and they

782
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: would have asked me to be ready as a first

783
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: round quarterback. Sure. And I think one of the biggest

784
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: things for Tom Brady is the amount of sleep he gets.

785
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: He even preaches that Dan okay sleep, I mean, he's

786
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: got to be on a sleep number. That guy's got

787
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: energy for days. So I just wanted to throw that

788
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: in there real quick. But there's just a lot of

789
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: expectation when it comes to that first overall, there's there's

790
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: so much expected of you that you know you're you're

791
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: regardless of your circumstances, you're expected to do well. And

792
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: here's a great example, when I'm at Sam Donald's pro

793
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: day and he's coming out of USC and they're like,

794
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, he might go to Cleveland, he might

795
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: go here, he might go there. We're hoping he goes

796
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: to the Jets, like you like that would be so cool,

797
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, USC to the Jets. That I'm talking with

798
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: his parents and all that, and I'm like, yeah, I mean, listen,

799
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I love my time in New York. Don't take this

800
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: the wrong way. I'm like, but the Jets are just

801
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: not very good right now. Neither is Cleveland at the time.

802
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: But I'm like, either way, like, if you're going in

803
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: that top five unless somebody trades into the top five

804
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: like the Jets did for me, expectations should not be here,

805
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: Like you're drafting that early for a reason. So for Tom,

806
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: I think he got to fly under the radar. He

807
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: got to learn under Drew bledso he got to make

808
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: a bunch of mistakes in practice that nobody ever saw.

809
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Maybe in nally they corrected obviously, but he got to

810
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: run through situation after situation after situation against one of

811
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: the best defenses perennially all the time, right before he

812
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: even got out on the field, and that is invaluable

813
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to grooming a quarterback. You want reps.

814
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: You want reps in real situations, not seven on seven

815
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: or seven on you know air, you know, passing lines

816
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: and warm ups. Those don't count. Like once you get

817
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: to that level. Come on, dude, that's just expected. You're

818
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: in a shorts, You're in a pair shorts and T

819
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: shirt and maybe a helmet. Like the ball shouldn't touch

820
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the ground. That's just the way it goes. That's just

821
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: where we're starting. Okay. Now you get a defense on

822
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: the field. Now you get situations, and the way they

823
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: run practice. They don't just run plays up there, They're

824
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: running situation after situation, Okay, backed up, sudden change, third downs,

825
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: red zone, goal line. This is the game is made

826
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: up of all these tiny little situations. And he became

827
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: a master of them. And now he's got this rolodex

828
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: in his head of playing against one of the best

829
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: defenses that can take the ball away from me like that,

830
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: and boom, Now I know what to do when the

831
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: game's on the and they and they eased them into it.

832
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Remember when um, oh my god, how am I blanket

833
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: on the coaches? Charlie Weiss, Charlie Weiss was running two back,

834
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, drop back. Go. Look at his first Super

835
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Bowl win. He hit one big pass on a deep

836
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: cross to branch or somebody. Everything else was a checkdown

837
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: to Kevin fall everything else. The ball didn't travel over

838
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: six yards. So I'm not saying that's easy. That's hard.

839
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: That's really hard to do. But he did it. And

840
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: then he got that confidence and it was like, oh,

841
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: I can do this. Now, let me try and fit

842
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: a ball in. Okay, maybe that didn't work, Okay, let

843
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Speaker 1: me fit a ball in here. Got it? Boom, I

844
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: know I can do that. I remember this situation from practice.

845
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And he just became a master. And

846
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's got to be part cyborg. Other

847
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: than the one day he had a couple too many beers, right, Like,

848
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: this guy's just incredible. So um, he just became a

849
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Speaker 1: master those situations and he had the time to develop

850
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: in the right place. Tell us what you're doing with

851
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: sleep number the Sleep thirty challenge, So basically it's from

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Speaker 1: June fourteenth to July eleventh, thirty straight days. Trying to

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Speaker 1: compete with all the NFL legends is that cool or what? Dan,

854
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: they call you an NFL legend as soon as you retire.

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Whether your career was legendary or not, there could have

856
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: been legendary moments. That's awesome. Are not calling yourself a legend? Well,

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Speaker 1: as long as Tracy Perlman at the NFL says I'm

858
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: a legend, then fine, I'll take the label. Yeah, But

859
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: basically it's thirty straight days I'm competing with other NFL legends.

860
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: You plug in your sleep number bed to your app,

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00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: you get it all configurated, and then essentially it'll track

862
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: all your sleep hits you with data points on restless sleep,

863
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: when you're getting into him sleep, all that kind of stuff.

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00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: The only issue for me, and I'm not making any

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Speaker 1: excuses because I'm a competitor and I want to win

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00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: this thing. But I got this child, okay, Dan, he's

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Speaker 1: four and a half, he'll be five in November, and

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Speaker 1: he'll come in at any hour night and I just

869
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: see it on my data points, just a big spike

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00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: of restless sleep because there's movement in the bed, all right,

871
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: and this guy will come in with whole cans in

872
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the night and just boom, hulk smash

873
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: so and wake dat up. But on the nights he

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00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. I get a full, you know, RESTful sleep,

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Speaker 1: the full eight hours. But the idea behind this challenge

876
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: is during the four weeks they break it up into

877
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, a couple different coaching points more or less

878
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: that we learned this in the NFL later in my career.

879
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: But things to avoid before you go to bed, blue

880
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: light from your cell phone, computer or TV, you know,

881
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: making sure instead of doing stuff like that, let's read

882
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: a book. Let's you know, do a little sudoku, dim

883
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: the lights a little bit, have a nice cool dark

884
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: environment to sleep in, and really keep the bed you

885
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: know for sleeping type thing. So it's it's great information

886
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: and it really does help me recharge. And the next

887
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: day I got to go gotta go be super dad.

888
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: So and you know, from raising kids, kids don't care

889
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: what time you went to bed or how much sleep

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Speaker 1: you got. They're ready to rock the next day, so

891
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: I gotta be ready as well. It's great to talk

892
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: to you again, and thanks for joining us, and good

893
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: luck with sleep. Number yes, sir, thank you all right, buddy.

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Speaker 1: That's Mark Sanchez, former NFL quarterback, USC quarterback yeah, you

895
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Speaker 1: go back to that press conference. I mean that was wild,

896
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: but that was just the body language that was going

897
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: on that Pete Carroll's basically want to lock the door,

898
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: not let him out. But look, Mark survived, Pete Carroll

899
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: has survived, and you know, sometimes you just want an

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00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: honest answer. You may not like the honest answer, but

901
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: you get an honest answer. And I think Pete Carroll

902
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: was saying that to Mark, and Mark went into those

903
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: expectations that was a really good team. And I mean

904
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: you went to two AFC title games and and they

905
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: trade up to get you. Now the expectation level is

906
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: ratcheted up. It's like Mitchell Trubisky, You're like, you better

907
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: really good. By the way I talked about that yesterday,

908
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: where you know, when I first broke the story about

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears were one of the three teams Tom

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00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Brady was considering, and you know it was Tom referring

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Speaker 1: to the Bears staying with Mitchell Trubisky when he was saying,

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Speaker 1: you're basically going to stay with that bleep. I was

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Speaker 1: told yesterday it was in San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo

914
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Speaker 1: and the Chargers didn't really have somebody where they said,

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00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: oh you're staying with that bleep Tannehill had played well,

916
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Speaker 1: so he wasn't talking about the Titans. And was it

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky? Probably so? Probably so because it wouldn't have

918
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Speaker 1: been Drew Brees with the Saints. He has too much

919
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: respect for him. I mean you start to take you know,

920
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: inventory here of these quarterbacks and who was Tom talking about?

921
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm taken away from this without having

922
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Speaker 1: any concrete, you know, information, is he was probably talking

923
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Speaker 1: to the Bears about Mitchell Bisky because the Colts. I

924
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: know he wanted to try. I know he wanted to

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00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: play for the Colts or he was open to playing

926
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Speaker 1: for the Colts. But there were really only three offers

927
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Speaker 1: and that was Chicago, the Chargers, and the Buccaneers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: m club, total hypothetical. Do you think Chicago could have

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Speaker 1: had a similar thing as the Bucks? And did I

930
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: have a great defense? Could they have put it all

931
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Speaker 1: together with Brady under center? Well? He did like Matt Naggie,

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Speaker 1: I think, probably based off Naggie working with Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: but I I really don't know. I felt like everything

934
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Speaker 1: that he needed was in Tampa. It was a younger defense,

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Speaker 1: and he was able to bring in some of his

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Speaker 1: his friends, bringing Antonio Brown, bringing Gronk, I don't know,

937
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: just sort of fell into place, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he and Bruce arians figured it out. He had Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans Godwin like you had talent there. Yeah, Paul, you know, Mitch.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's never really confirmed that Chicago was in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Chicago was close, and that's what Bears fans want. We

942
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Speaker 1: never want Tom Brady to admit that the Bears were

943
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Speaker 1: right there and they had a chance to get him.

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Speaker 1: That would be awful.